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Suddenly, Ravens have path to AFC North crown

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Maybe the next time Hine Ward is in Baltimore, they’ll wave at him with more than one finger.

Ward’s former team, the Steelers, upended the Bengals on Sunday night.  The Cincinnati loss opens the door for the Ravens to swipe the AFC North.

The path is simple.  If the 7-6 Ravens win out (at Lions, vs. Patriots, at Bengals), they’ll be 10-6.  A Baltimore victory in Week 17 would put the 9-5 Bengals at 10-6 at best, giving the Ravens the division crown via the head-to-head sweep by Baltimore.

The Ravens can actually lose one of the next two games, if the Bengals lose to the Vikings in Cincinnati on Sunday.

The Bengals haven’t lost at home this season, so a loss to the Vikings could be a long shot.  Then again, the Vikings in recent weeks have tied the 7-6-1 Packers, beaten the 8-6 Bears, gave the Ravens all they could handle in Baltimore, and ended the five-game winning streak of the 8-6 Eagles.

If the Bengals squander the AFC North title, the Bengals also would have to worry about missing the playoffs entirely.  If they finish with the same record as the 8-6 Dolphins, Miami’s overtime win over the Bengals from Halloween night would give the Dolphins the No. 6 seed.

The Dolphins, who have won five of their last seven games, finish against the Bills in Buffalo and the Jets at home.

So on a day that started with the Patriots having a shot at the No. 1 seed and ended with the Bengals having a chance to leapfrog the Pats into the No. 2 seed, the Bengals now have to worry about not making it to the postseason at all.

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  1. fwippel says: Dec 16, 2013 8:40 AM

    First things first: Baltimore needs to win tonight at Detroit, against a team also fighting to keep control of its division.

    My guess is the Ravens do the same thing the Patriots, Bengals and Cowboys did yesterday; each team was given a golden opportunity to move up in the playoff seeding, and each let it slip away.

  2. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 16, 2013 8:40 AM

    This is a sad season. Cincy, the 3rd best team in the afcn will back into the playoffs at 9-7, after the 2nd best team flops tonight and next week to finish 8-8, all the while the best team in the divison will have to sit and watch the debacle. Truly sad.

  3. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 8:40 AM

    AM

    LOL…. and if the steelers wouldn’t of lost to the raiders, titans, Vikings etc.. they would be the afc north champs..blah blah blah. your scenario for the ravens winning the afc north is absurd. so basically everything has to be perfect and all the stars must align..lol…after tonight the ratbirds will be on the outside looking in…last playoff spot is Miami’s..bye bye ratbirds!!!!!!!! hahahaha #lovinit

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  4. finsafceastchampionsrunbegins2013 says: Dec 16, 2013 8:50 AM

    The funniest thing about this scenario is that if Baltimore wins out Miami wins out the pats lose to Buffalo and Indi loses 1 Miami gets the AFC East and I think the #2 seed. Bet you won’t see a post titled “Suddenly, Phins have path to AFC East crown” Today wonder why?

  5. allhailkingflacco says: Dec 16, 2013 8:52 AM

    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 8:40 AM

    AM

    LOL…. and if the steelers wouldn’t of lost to the raiders, titans, Vikings etc.. they would be the afc north champs..blah blah blah. your scenario for the ravens winning the afc north is absurd. so basically everything has to be perfect and all the stars must align..lol…after tonight the ratbirds will be on the outside looking in…last playoff spot is Miami’s..bye bye ratbirds!!!!!!!! hahahaha #lovinit
    ________________________________

    Are you “lovin” how you have no shot at the playoffs ?

    Now that’s something to lol about, isn’t it ?

  6. daytonaken says: Dec 16, 2013 8:55 AM

    The formula is to peak at the right time. the Ravens have the chance, as well as a little recent history on their side.

  7. threedeep1998 says: Dec 16, 2013 8:58 AM

    I don’t know why defenses don’t cue in on Flacco’s easily detectable snap count? Anyone ever notice that?

    “Wideeeeee eightyyyyy, set hut”

    every time it’s the same thing.

  8. norcalmafia says: Dec 16, 2013 9:00 AM

    Um yeah……and you guys had the Bengals ranked above the 49ers? Haha

  9. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 9:01 AM

    I can’t wait to read the comments on PFT if the Ravens do in fact win out and steal the AFC North from the Bengals.

    I’m sure there will still be plenty of folks who claim the Ravens didn’t “deserve” it, any more than they “deserved” to win Super Bowl 47.

  10. ravioles says: Dec 16, 2013 9:02 AM

    Steeler Nation = Overrated. Nice fan support last night. Half empty stadium in a prime time game.

  11. jm91rs says: Dec 16, 2013 9:03 AM

    crownofthehelmet says: Dec 16, 2013 8:40 AM

    This is a sad season. Cincy, the 3rd best team in the afcn will back into the playoffs at 9-7, after the 2nd best team flops tonight and next week to finish 8-8, all the while the best team in the divison will have to sit and watch the debacle. Truly sad.
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    I’m sorry, how does the team with the best record in the division come out as the 3rd best? You might have your math wrong there.

  12. fukpittsburgh says: Dec 16, 2013 9:04 AM

    This is a sad season. Cincy, the 3rd best team in the afcn will back into the playoffs at 9-7, after the 2nd best team flops tonight and next week to finish 8-8, all the while the best team in the divison will have to sit and watch the debacle. Truly sad.

    ________________________

    A perfect example of why Steelers fans are considered the dumbest in the league.

  13. lostsok says: Dec 16, 2013 9:05 AM

    It’s amazing this many teams could end up #2 or out of the playoffs, with only two weeks left in the season.

    This should be prove positive there is no need to expand the playoffs. Enough teams are alive late enough that few teams will be “playing for nothing” for more than 2-3 weeks.

  14. yyyass says: Dec 16, 2013 9:06 AM

    I’ve never seen a .500 team having to win three in a row against three division leaders, with two of those games on the road – called “a simple path”. Miami being Miami, and the Ravens unable to get four quarters out of their defense -or even TWO quarters out of their overpaid QB and offense, make me think that San Diego slips in to that last slot.

  15. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:12 AM

    expand the playoffs this year. let the steelers in. they will wreck all these weak teams dreams. all big ben needs is a ticket to the dance… that’s right none of you would want to face the team with 6 lombardis…#cowards

  16. edgarcaetano says: Dec 16, 2013 9:12 AM

    Bengals aren’t the same without Geno Atkins and Leon Hall.

    Patriots aren’t the same without Gronkowski and he-whom-we-do-not-speak-of.

    Lions are a mess but still the most dangerous of the three i.m.o., considering the matchup vs the Ravens.

    oh…and by the way, the Vikings are going to blow the Bengals out of the water

  17. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:12 AM

    expand the playoffs this year. let the steelers in. they will wreck all these weak teams dreams. all big ben needs is a ticket to the dance… that’s right none of you would want to face the team with 6 lombardis…#cowards.

  18. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:13 AM

    expand the playoffs this year. let the steelers in. they will wreck all these weak teams dreams. all big ben needs is a ticket to the dance… that’s right none of you would want to face the team with 6 lombardis…#COWARDS..

  19. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 9:13 AM

    yyyass says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:06 AM
    I’ve never seen a .500 team having to win three in a row against three division leaders, with two of those games on the road – called “a simple path”. Miami being Miami, and the Ravens unable to get four quarters out of their defense -or even TWO quarters out of their overpaid QB and offense, make me think that San Diego slips in to that last slot.

    ———————————————–

    As tired an argument as this is, I fail to see how a QB making $6.8 million this year is considered “overpaid.”

  20. stigman2012 says: Dec 16, 2013 9:18 AM

    I wouldn’t assume the Ravens will win any of those last three. Lions will not be a gimme. Patriots certainly won’t be. And the Bengals are very tough at home and aren’t likely to get swept by the Ravens.

    Conversely, as I said the Bengals are tough at home. Their last two are at home, which means they can still end 11-5.

    But, I’m sorry…please carry on crowning the Ravens AFCN champs while they currently sit a game and a half back.

  21. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 16, 2013 9:19 AM

    “I’m sorry, how does the team with the best record in the division come out as the 3rd best?”

    Simple, both the Steelers and Ravens are both better than the Dalton-led Bengals squad. And someone called Steeler fans dumb?

  22. steeelfann says: Dec 16, 2013 9:21 AM

    Ravens will not be able to handle Detroit in their dome. At Baltimore, yes, but not up there.

  23. 1uniquename says: Dec 16, 2013 9:24 AM

    I have a feeling the Ravens will do exactly what is needed and win out, as will the Dolphins with their somewhat easy schedule. Placing the Ravens and Dolphins in the playoffs with both teams on fire down the stretch could really turn the playoff picture upside down. If these teams dont play each other in the first round I could see them both winning in wildcard weekend and one of them upsetting either the Broncos or Pats and playing in the AFC championship. Before the season who in their right mind would’ve put either one of these teams in that game? And once there you never know, could we see a Ravens repeat? WOW the NFL has some serious parody going on, it’s rather unbelievable and almost makes the league feel more luck based than skill, but in a good way, I think.

  24. 23rdusernameused says: Dec 16, 2013 9:25 AM

    Go Miami!!!!!!!!!

  25. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 9:26 AM

    stigman2012 says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:18 AM
    I wouldn’t assume the Ravens will win any of those last three. Lions will not be a gimme. Patriots certainly won’t be. And the Bengals are very tough at home and aren’t likely to get swept by the Ravens.

    Conversely, as I said the Bengals are tough at home. Their last two are at home, which means they can still end 11-5.

    But, I’m sorry…please carry on crowning the Ravens AFCN champs while they currently sit a game and a half back.

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    Who’s crowning the Ravens as AFC North champs?

    The article I read discussed how if the Ravens won their remaining three games, they would win the division. I didn’t see anything in there saying the Ravens will absolutely and unquestionably win their final games.

    I’m a Ravens fan, and I’m not assuming anything. I wouldn’t be shocked by any means if they won all three games, but they certainly aren’t easy wins either.

    Considering how badly the Bengals lost last night, I wouldn’t run to your bookie to put money down they won’t choke in the final two weeks either, though. Those losses on defense have added up awfully quickly.

  26. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 16, 2013 9:26 AM

    jm91rs says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:03 AM
    I’m sorry, how does the team with the best record in the division come out as the 3rd best? You might have your math wrong there.

    Trolls can’t do math.

  27. deathonwings410 says: Dec 16, 2013 9:27 AM

    “threedeep1998 says:
    Dec 16, 2013 8:58 AM
    I don’t know why defenses don’t cue in on Flacco’s easily detectable snap count? Anyone ever notice that?

    “Wideeeeee eightyyyyy, set hut”

    every time it’s the same thing.

    0 1 ”

    Yet he forces so many defenses off sides…

  28. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:27 AM

    joe “jumpball” flacco better pull off more of his miracle toss ups if your scenario is to be true. #nomoreratbirdmiraclesleftforfluke-o

  29. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:29 AM

    joe “jumpball” flacco better pull off more of his miracle toss ups if your scenario is to be true. #nomoreratbirdmiraclesleftforfluke-o….

  30. jimiinpa says: Dec 16, 2013 9:34 AM

    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:12 AM

    expand the playoffs this year. let the steelers in. they will wreck all these weak teams dreams. all big ben needs is a ticket to the dance… that’s right none of you would want to face the team with 6 lombardis…#cowards
    =================yeah because 16 games aren’t enough for these clowns, btw nice show of fans last night half full…maybe?

  31. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 9:37 AM

    finsafceastchampionsrunbegins2013 says:
    Dec 16, 2013 8:50 AM
    The funniest thing about this scenario is that if Baltimore wins out Miami wins out the pats lose to Buffalo and Indi loses 1 Miami gets the AFC East and I think the #2 seed. Bet you won’t see a post titled “Suddenly, Phins have path to AFC East crown” Today wonder why?

    ——————————————-

    Probably because the Ravens’ road to winning the AFC North is entirely based upon winning their final three games. The Dolphins’ chances are based on other teams losing at least one game along the way, so they don’t have direct control over winning the division.

    Plus, how could the Dolphins get the #2 seed when the Ravens beat them head to head, assuming the Ravens win the North as well?

  32. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 16, 2013 9:37 AM

    “As tired an argument as this is, I fail to see how a QB making $6.8 million this year is considered “overpaid.”

    You will, when you have to change that number in your sentence to a 30.

  33. mmmpierogi says: Dec 16, 2013 9:38 AM

    allhailkingflacco says:
    Dec 16, 2013 8:52 AM
    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 8:40 AM

    AM

    LOL…. and if the steelers wouldn’t of lost to the raiders, titans, Vikings etc.. they would be the afc north champs..blah blah blah. your scenario for the ravens winning the afc north is absurd. so basically everything has to be perfect and all the stars must align..lol…after tonight the ratbirds will be on the outside looking in…last playoff spot is Miami’s..bye bye ratbirds!!!!!!!! hahahaha #lovinit
    ________________________________

    Are you “lovin” how you have no shot at the playoffs ?

    Now that’s something to lol about, isn’t it ?

    **************************************************************

    Yes, almost as funny as going from winning the SB to scrapping by to even make it to the playoffs.

    It’s alright, though — at least King Flacco managed to finally pull ahead in the TD/INT ratio.

  34. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:40 AM

    ya im sure if it was 18 degrees and the ratbirds were 5-8 that dump of a stadium empty bank would be all filled up..LOL…#hypocrites

  35. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:41 AM

    ya im sure if it was 18 degrees and the ratbirds were 5-8 that dump of a stadium empty bank would be all filled up..LOL…#hypocrites.

  36. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:41 AM

    ya im sure if it was 18 degrees and the ratbirds were 5-8 that dump of a stadium empty bank would be all filled up..LOL…#hypocrites..

  37. metrocritical says: Dec 16, 2013 9:43 AM

    It looks like the Lions are heading towards a collision with destiny. Usually when that happens, the Lions end up with a bad case of whiplash and a citation for careless driving.

  38. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 9:43 AM

    mmmpierogi says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:38 AM

    Yes, almost as funny as going from winning the SB to scrapping by to even make it to the playoffs.

    It’s alright, though — at least King Flacco managed to finally pull ahead in the TD/INT ratio.3

    —————————————————

    Definition of irony: Steelers fan poking fun at the Ravens fighting to get into the playoffs the year after they won the Super Bowl, when the Steelers had failed to make the playoffs both years after they had won their last two championships, not to mention the Steelers failed to make the playoffs last year and most likely this season as well.

  39. blahblah1000 says: Dec 16, 2013 9:44 AM

    Congrats NfL you got the storyline.

    SKOL

  40. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 9:46 AM

    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:41 AM
    ya im sure if it was 18 degrees and the ratbirds were 5-8 that dump of a stadium empty bank would be all filled up..LOL…#hypocrites..

    ————————————————–

    It was 22 degrees in Baltimore on Thanksgiving night.

    NEXT.

  41. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:56 AM

    better google mt bank stadium half empty. oh whats this dec 23, 2012 stadium half empty vs broncos..ohhhh myyy what a buncha hypocrites!! don’t go throwing stones ratbird fans you have had plenty of half filled stadiums through the years! #fairweatherfans.

  42. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 9:56 AM

    better google mt bank stadium half empty. oh whats this dec 23, 2012 stadium half empty vs broncos..ohhhh myyy what a buncha hypocrites!! don’t go throwing stones ratbird fans you have had plenty of half filled stadiums through the years! #fairweatherfans..

  43. FoozieGrooler says: Dec 16, 2013 10:00 AM

    Doesn’t matter – the Ratbirds may not win another game.

  44. it's all bs says: Dec 16, 2013 10:03 AM

    southpaw2k says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:46 AM
    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:41 AM
    ya im sure if it was 18 degrees and the ratbirds were 5-8 that dump of a stadium empty bank would be all filled up..LOL…#hypocrites..

    ————————————————–

    It was 22 degrees in Baltimore on Thanksgiving night.

    NEXT.
    ______________________

    and they were playing the STEELERS which meant there were more Steeler fans in that rat hole than Raisins fans………………NEXT indeed!!!

  45. allhailkingflacco says: Dec 16, 2013 10:04 AM

    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:56 AM

    better google mt bank stadium half empty. oh whats this dec 23, 2012 stadium half empty vs broncos..ohhhh myyy what a buncha hypocrites!! don’t go throwing stones ratbird fans you have had plenty of half filled stadiums through the years! #fairweatherfans.
    _________________________________

    This is the result of someone on the outside looking in. Must suck to be out of it.

    #ben&toddmakeupbutitswaytoolate

  46. ianwetpantscom says: Dec 16, 2013 10:09 AM

    if the ravens win out, the wheels will fall off steeler nation!

    you heard it here first!

  47. deweyaxewound says: Dec 16, 2013 10:11 AM

    Don’t care what happens to the Ravens, as long as they win tonight.

  48. baltimoresnativeson says: Dec 16, 2013 10:13 AM

    Why is that Big Ben moron posting the same messages 2 and 3 times?

  49. johngaltwho says: Dec 16, 2013 10:14 AM

    As a Packer fan who traveled to Baltimore to see the Ravens and Packers do battle early in the season, I say Go Ravens! Was a great stadium and a gracious fan base so that’ll make it all the more palatable to root for them tonight.

  50. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 10:14 AM

    it’s all bs says:
    Dec 16, 2013 10:03 AM
    southpaw2k says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:46 AM
    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:41 AM
    ya im sure if it was 18 degrees and the ratbirds were 5-8 that dump of a stadium empty bank would be all filled up..LOL…#hypocrites..

    ————————————————–

    It was 22 degrees in Baltimore on Thanksgiving night.

    NEXT.
    ______________________

    and they were playing the STEELERS which meant there were more Steeler fans in that rat hole than Raisins fans………………NEXT indeed!!!

    ———————————————-

    Were you at that game?

    I was, and while there were fans waving their Terrible Towels at that game, the Ravens fans far outnumbered Steelers fans.

  51. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 10:17 AM

    steeler nation too strong… you will be done tonight! Detroit 45 ratbirds 17 final….the end of ratbird nation. they wont be on here anymore. and it will be soooo sweet! you will be on the couch just like steeler nation rat trolls…enjoy.. #realitycheck

  52. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 10:17 AM

    steeler nation too strong… you will be done tonight! Detroit 45 ratbirds 17 final….the end of ratbird nation. they wont be on here anymore. and it will be soooo sweet! you will be on the couch just like steeler nation rat trolls…enjoy.. #realitycheck.

  53. daytonaken says: Dec 16, 2013 10:19 AM

    As a Raven fan, thank you Steelers!

  54. ravensterps says: Dec 16, 2013 10:24 AM

    threedeep1998 says: Dec 16, 2013 8:58 AM

    I don’t know why defenses don’t cue in on Flacco’s easily detectable snap count? Anyone ever notice that?

    ———————

    I’m guessing you don’t know much about football because Flacco is absolutely amazing at drawing defenders offsides with a hard count.

  55. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 10:31 AM

    don’t thank the steelers. they have done nothing for you. once you lose tonight, nothing the steelers can do to save you. tears in your ratbird beers! #steelernationwillrejoiceinratbirdmisery

  56. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 10:32 AM

    don’t thank the steelers. they have done nothing for you. once you lose tonight, nothing the steelers can do to save you. tears in your ratbird beers! #steelernationwillrejoiceinratbirdmisery.

  57. finsafceastchampionsrunbegins2013 says: Dec 16, 2013 10:34 AM

    southpaw2k says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:37 AM

    Plus, how could the Dolphins get the #2 seed when the Ravens beat them head to head, assuming the Ravens win the North as well?

    Because a 3 way tie Miami, indi, baltimore head to head does not matter since baltimore did not beat Indi comes down to conference records etc. Thats how.

  58. gallopinggilmore says: Dec 16, 2013 10:36 AM

    Who wins tonight and the AFC North will depend on whatever works best for the Patriots. The end of this season has been all about given them a good spot in the playoffs.

  59. edisbetterthantroy says: Dec 16, 2013 10:38 AM

    How many times do you hear analysts and broadcasters say things like “As a QB, sometimes you have to throw it up in the air and allow your receiver to make a play…”?

    When Joe Flacco does the exact same thing a couple times a game (like every QB in the NFL) and converts, he is unfairly criticized and labeled by envious fans “Jumpball Joe”.

    Look for the offense to come alive tonight. It seems like the Ravens haven’t played in good weather since September. Pitta’s back, Jacoby is getting hot, Marlon “touchdown” Brown leads rookie WR’s in TDs. All of this will benefit Torrey who has seen double coverage all year. This is the time of the year when Joe earns his money. You know, now that fantasy football is winding down and winning real games are what’s important.

  60. lovefootball4life says: Dec 16, 2013 10:41 AM

    bigben, one third of Steeler nation didn’t show up to the game and jumped ship. Please be part of that one third and go away.

  61. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 16, 2013 10:50 AM

    Now here is an interesting juxtaposition…

    The Cowboys lose and sit 1 game behind the Eagles, and Florio’s take is that “the glass is still half full”.

    The Bengals lose and sit 1.5 game ahead of the Ravens, and Florio’s take is that they are on the verge of missing the playoffs.

    Huh?

  62. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 10:53 AM

    nobody jumps ship. we fight til the end. we are not like your soft team. #steelernationrulz

  63. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 10:54 AM

    nobody jumps ship. we fight til the end. we are not like your soft team. #steelernationrulz.

  64. steelcurtainn says: Dec 16, 2013 10:55 AM

    They have the path until tonight and then by week 17 they’ll be one stairway step up from the basement.

  65. bonniebengal says: Dec 16, 2013 10:58 AM

    Ravens will lose in Detroit tonight. The Bengals will win their next two games, which are at home, and will put the Ravens down and out the last game of the season.

  66. getyourownname says: Dec 16, 2013 11:00 AM

    finsafceastchampionsrunbegins2013 says:
    Dec 16, 2013 8:50 AM
    The funniest thing about this scenario is that if Baltimore wins out Miami wins out the pats lose to Buffalo and Indi loses 1 Miami gets the AFC East and I think the #2 seed. Bet you won’t see a post titled “Suddenly, Phins have path to AFC East crown” Today wonder why?
    ————–
    You raise an interesting scenario about final playoff seeding, shows how much in flux things still are. Probably a lot of peple have not thought of this possbility.

    But the reason you won’t see an article entitled “Suddenly, Phins have path to AFC East crown” is because some things have to occur over which they have no control to win the AFCE crown, whereas at the moment the Ravens do have control over whether they win AFCN. You can reasonably argue which path is easiest or most likely, but that’s not the same as being in control.

  67. scmems07 says: Dec 16, 2013 11:14 AM

    if miami gets in, watch out. they already have shown they can beat cin, ind and NE and were a fg away from ot with bal. they are peaking at the right time, similar to bal last year and the giants a few years ago. not saying they can win it all, but hey, if they get in anything can happen. the d is playing well and tannehill ballin right now. it’s going to be fun to see what happens.

  68. guitarkevin says: Dec 16, 2013 11:16 AM

    Winning tonight is all that matters for the Ravens.

  69. pittsburgh361 says: Dec 16, 2013 11:17 AM

    Whats great about all of this is pittsburgh is 6-8 and still have a shot. All that has to happen is both ravens and dolphins have to finish 8-8 and pittsbugh is the 6th seed. Lol we are at are worse and we still have a shot.

  70. mmmpierogi says: Dec 16, 2013 11:29 AM

    southpaw2k says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:43 AM
    mmmpierogi says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:38 AM

    Yes, almost as funny as going from winning the SB to scrapping by to even make it to the playoffs.

    It’s alright, though — at least King Flacco managed to finally pull ahead in the TD/INT ratio.3

    —————————————————

    Definition of irony: Steelers fan poking fun at the Ravens fighting to get into the playoffs the year after they won the Super Bowl, when the Steelers had failed to make the playoffs both years after they had won their last two championships, not to mention the Steelers failed to make the playoffs last year and most likely this season as well.

    *************************************************************

    Either you don’t understand the concept of irony or your misread my post.

    During the seasons you speak of, I wasn’t the one initiating garbage about other teams’ playoff chances as though my team was doing so much better. A Raven fan makes a comment about the Steelers, and yet the Ravens are finishing out a year where they go from winning the SB to perhaps not evening making it back to the playoffs. There is no irony in me pointing that out.

    Irrespective of the team you follow, I’d not be running my mouth when my team is in that position.

  71. jimiinpa says: Dec 16, 2013 11:34 AM

    YAY…6 RINGS AND A RAPIST

  72. cfeeley52 says: Dec 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    mmmpierogi says:
    Yes, almost as funny as going from winning the SB to scrapping by to even make it to the playoffs.

    It’s alright, though — at least King Flacco managed to finally pull ahead in the TD/INT ratio.
    ——————————————-
    I want you to look up the steeler’s seasons immediately following a superbowl win then come back and try again…

  73. siggtacular says: Dec 16, 2013 11:45 AM

    Ravens will reclaim the AFC North!!!!!

    Go Ravens!!!!

    2x World Champs

    XXXV XLVII

  74. Deb says: Dec 16, 2013 11:47 AM

    No disrespect to the Bengals, but on some level I think that if it can’t be us … better the devil we know so so well :)

  75. cfeeley52 says: Dec 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    mmmpierogi says:

    Either you don’t understand the concept of irony or your misread my post.

    During the seasons you speak of, I wasn’t the one initiating garbage about other teams’ playoff chances as though my team was doing so much better. A Raven fan makes a comment about the Steelers, and yet the Ravens are finishing out a year where they go from winning the SB to perhaps not evening making it back to the playoffs. There is no irony in me pointing that out.

    Irrespective of the team you follow, I’d not be running my mouth when my team is in that position.
    ——————————
    And still here you are running your mouth when your team is virtually eliminated from the playoffs. Now that’s ironic…

  76. joe6606 says: Dec 16, 2013 11:54 AM

    If Cincinnati beats Balt; and NYJ, Miami , Balt, sd, and Pitt all end up at 8-8, guess who gets the 6th seed???

  77. danmarinos1stlovechild says: Dec 16, 2013 11:59 AM

    finsafceastchampionsrunbegins2013 says: Dec 16, 2013 8:50 AM

    The funniest thing about this scenario is that if Baltimore wins out Miami wins out the pats lose to Buffalo and Indi loses 1 Miami gets the AFC East and I think the #2 seed. Bet you won’t see a post titled “Suddenly, Phins have path to AFC East crown” Today wonder why?

    _____________________

    Dolphins winning the afc east is a long shot. I think they have a better shot of making the 6th seed and defeating the Bengals in Cinnci!

  78. bricastle says: Dec 16, 2013 12:00 PM

    Seriously…. Who is this douche from Pittsburgh trashing the Ravens?? How bitter. The Steelers are a joke. Old and tired. 6 rings…. Great, they’ve been a franchise for approx 40 years. Dude, are u seriously saying M&T Bank stadium is a dump? Ketchup Field is a trash pit… In a trash pit city. Bro, tthe stadium pump up video on the diamond vision is a shirtless sweaty guy swinging a large hammer. Lol. I’m not even a Ravens fan…. But they won the Super Bowl. They have a better shot of making playoffs than the Steelers. Ur QB is a multiple offending RAPIST!!! All ur arguments seem to come from a bitter jealous place. How funny would it be if the Ravens didn’t make the playoffs?? Dude the Steelers haven’t made the playoffs the past two years. I guess ur point is the Ravens are just known to be better than the Steelers now and it’s more of a shock. Go Pack.

  79. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 16, 2013 12:10 PM

    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 10:54 AM
    nobody jumps ship

    Can’t jump ship when no one is on the ship #EmptyStadium

  80. Deb says: Dec 16, 2013 12:15 PM

    @bricastle …

    Dude … don’t know which Steelers troll has you upset, but we have Ravens trolls that come on every single Steelers post and trash us up and down the thread. Plenty of trolls to go around. And the Steelers have been a franchise since 1933. One of the interesting aspects of Steelers history is that the team didn’t win a single playoff game in its first 40 years, then fielded a dynasty team, won four Super Bowls in six years, and became one of the most successful franchises in the NFL.

    No, the Ravens aren’t known to be more successful than the Steelers now. The Steelers have missed the playoffs the last two years, but has been to three Super Bowls in the last decade, winning two. The Ravens have won one. It’s a great smashmouth rivalry between two tough teams … that really has nothing to do with you. Go fight with some Vikings.

  81. nopepper123 says: Dec 16, 2013 12:17 PM

    “A simple path for the Ravens” Ya, all they need to do is:

    1. Go into Detroit on Monday night Football and take down the division leading Lions.

    2. Come home where they barely escaped the Vikings and take down the 10-4 division leading Patriots.

    3. Then go into Cincy where they are undefeated at home and take them down.

    Ok, here’s a simplier path………Lions beat Ravens and Bengals beat Vikings at home for the division…………LOL!

  82. winstonjed44 says: Dec 16, 2013 12:23 PM

    Wow didn’t see this coming. Detroit seems like it’ll be the toughest game since it’s on the road and Detroit has a good front 4 against the shaky Ravens o line. Detroit should win, have a lot of talent on offense and Megatron will be motivated, but the Lions have beaten themselves enough this year so I wouldn’t be shocked if they lose. The Ravens usually do well against the Pats and Brady and the Bengals are so up and down. Not a Ravens fan but they’ve got a solid shot.

  83. southpaw2k says: Dec 16, 2013 12:25 PM

    mmmpierogi says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:38 AM

    Either you don’t understand the concept of irony or your misread my post.

    During the seasons you speak of, I wasn’t the one initiating garbage about other teams’ playoff chances as though my team was doing so much better. A Raven fan makes a comment about the Steelers, and yet the Ravens are finishing out a year where they go from winning the SB to perhaps not evening making it back to the playoffs. There is no irony in me pointing that out.

    Irrespective of the team you follow, I’d not be running my mouth when my team is in that position.

    ————————————————–

    Your overall point, unless I missed something, is that it’s funny that the Ravens won the Super Bowl last year and now face a very real possibility of missing the playoffs entirely as defending champions (which, incidentally, you’d have to go all the way back to the 2012 Giants as the last team who failed to make the playoffs the year after winning a championship).

    Now, contrast that with the Steelers. They won Super Bowl 40 and Super Bowl 43. The following season after each championship, they had failed to make the playoffs. They also failed to make the playoffs last year, and are all but eliminated this year.

    Now how exactly is it NOT ironic for a Steelers fan to say the Ravens are a joke for having to fight their way to reach the playoffs this year as defending champs?

  84. sbchampsagain says: Dec 16, 2013 12:36 PM

    Why was the Pitt stadium so empty last night? Even from opening kickoff!

    It was a Sunday night game, against a division rival, with playoff implicaitons!

    Talk about fair weather fans.

  85. haterade999 says: Dec 16, 2013 12:42 PM

    Take this in Ravens fans. You’ve made it, you aren’t even in the playoffs yet and you’ve made it as the team to beat in the AFCN.

    If Steelers fans weren’t envious of that, they wouldn’t be here.

    How often do Ravens fans hang out on Steeler’s articles?

  86. tictoccpthook says: Dec 16, 2013 12:47 PM

    Good luck Ravens. Go all the way and represent the AFC North as the best division this year. Next year we will do the same.
    Steelers Fan (tough year with rotations from injuries and breaking in new players).

  87. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 12:49 PM

    YAY 2 RINGS AND A RETIRED MURDERER!!

  88. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    I cant wait til the lions slaughter this weak team tonight. gonna be so much fun making fun of ratbird fans!

  89. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    @bigben
    You only need to hit the Submit button once. If you quit watching the video of Cody Wallace feeling up that Dolphins player, your internet speed will free up some.

  90. gurkharavens says: Dec 16, 2013 12:57 PM

    Wow Its so much fun to see so many Steelers fan here in this thread. I smell JEALOUSY here. The truth is Ravens have a chance of winning AFC North tonight and if you can’t take that fact, all you steelers fan can go lament as to how bad your team really was this year. As for the Ravens; its too early to say if we will win AFC North but we can all cherish the fact that we have a great chance of doing it and everyone knows how difficult is it to stop the Ravens once they get going. Go Ravens!!!!!!

  91. gurkharavens says: Dec 16, 2013 12:58 PM

    Wow Its so much fun to see so many Steelers fan here in this thread. I smell JEALOUSY here. The truth is Ravens have a chance of winning AFC North starting with a win tonight and if you can’t take that fact, all you steelers fan can go lament as to how bad your team really was this year. As for the Ravens; its too early to say if we will win AFC North but we can all cherish the fact that we have a great chance of doing it and everyone knows how difficult is it to stop the Ravens once they get going. Go Ravens!!!!!!

  92. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 12:59 PM

    BigBen,

    Do you even remember the Steelers losing last week to the Dolphins @ home???

  93. whodeytrox says: Dec 16, 2013 1:01 PM

    You are high on krokodil if you honestly think the Bengals aren’t taking the North.

  94. Paul Stagg says: Dec 16, 2013 1:04 PM

    This scenario is why the NFL stays strong, even with the issues with rules.

    That the Ravens could win the AFC North and could even be the #2 seed, or end up watching the playoffs from home with 3 games left is pretty astonishing; and the difference there could be just one of those three games.

  95. heartofsteel36 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:07 PM

    My guess is Denver, NE, Cincy, Indy, KC, and Miami make it. Miami plays at Buffalo and home vs the Jets…they will get the #6 seed. The Bengals don’t lose at home vs the Vikings.

  96. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:11 PM

    Another Dolphin fan noted above that we can ACTUALLY still win the division???!!! Extremely hard to believe but true. While I don’t believe this will happen it’s incredibly difficult to comprehend that this Martin/Incognito situation has actually galvanized this team & made them play better. Just an unbelievable win yesterday & I do believe that we will finish 10-6 & make the playoffs.

    BTW–If the O-line & RB’s can protect Tannehill from getting killed he’s going to be a good one. Other than a poor throw to Hartline & an underthrown ball to Wallace he was pretty much perfect yesterday. Best game he’s played as pro IMO & I believe he’s just starting to scratch the surface of how good he can be.

  97. nwest20 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:13 PM

    Have to get past “old man” Calvin Johnson first….have fun with that!

  98. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:19 PM

    Gurk,

    The Ravens are one of those teams that just find ways to win football games like the Giants did those years when they won their last two SB’s. It may not be pretty but they get it done.

    While I thought the Ravens were extremely lucky to beat the Broncos last year in the playoffs & the Dolphins this year & then the Vikings last week…After awhile, when a team keeps winning games like this, MAYBE it’s not luck. I’ll say this–they never give up.

    It’s going to be VERY interesting to see if they can slow down the best WR in football w/ his 28 year old ‘old man’ strength. Advantage Megatron on that matchup.

  99. jacktheraven says: Dec 16, 2013 1:22 PM

    Nice win last night Steelers. Now, Ravens have to take care of business.

  100. jgedgar70 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:23 PM

    lostsok says:
    Dec 16, 2013 9:05 AM
    It’s amazing this many teams could end up #2 or out of the playoffs, with only two weeks left in the season.

    This should be prove positive there is no need to expand the playoffs. Enough teams are alive late enough that few teams will be “playing for nothing” for more than 2-3 weeks.
    ______
    Perhaps, for the AFC, as there might be a 8-8 team getting in, or at least 1 or 2 9-7 teams. But there is a good chance that an NFC team with 10 wins is staying home, if Arizona gets to 10 wins.

    As a Panthers fan, I want New England and Miami to both make it in the AFC, and for SF to make it in the NFC. For months I’ve been hearing that the Panthers are a complete fraud with wins over bad teams. Well, it’s not our fault TB and Atlanta went in the tank. And if we beat NO, and NE and Miami both make the playoffs, then we would have gone 4-2 against playoff teams Seattle, SF, NO, Miami and NE.

  101. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:26 PM

    You are high on krokodil if you honestly think the Bengals aren’t taking the North.

    Whodey,

    Very surprising to see how badly the Bengals looked last night. Bengals have a ton of talent but I’m not sure they have a QB that can win a playoff game on the road. IMO–Get Giovani the ball more. The kid is an incredible talent & I wish the Dolphins had him. Kid ripped our defense to shreds…

  102. cfeeley52 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:26 PM

    joe6606 says:
    Dec 16, 2013 11:54 AM
    If Cincinnati beats Balt; and NYJ, Miami , Balt, sd, and Pitt all end up at 8-8, guess who gets the 6th seed???
    —————————————
    So let me get this straight, you need to run the table and get help from 5 other teams to even have a chance of making the playoffs. And you’re on here bragging about that scenario??? Gotcha…

  103. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:31 PM

    Even w/ Calvin Johnson possibly going off tonight I still think the Ravens will somehow pull another rabbit out of their hat & beat the Lions. For the past two seasons the Lions just find ways to lose & the Ravens just find ways to win. As a Dolphin fan I’d like to see the Lions win but I just don’t think they have the heart that the Ravens team has. Plus I question the the Lions entire coaching staff for having such an undisciplined football team.

  104. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:34 PM

    Joe,

    Dolphins aren’t losing their last two games. Maybe they lose a fluke game to the Bills on the road but they’re not losing to the Jets w/ Geno Smith playing QB. That kid is horrible.

  105. cfeeley52 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:37 PM

    bigbenownsthenfl says:
    Dec 16, 2013 12:52 PM
    I cant wait til the lions slaughter this weak team tonight. gonna be so much fun making fun of ratbird fans!
    —————————————
    Good win last night, but are you forgetting you’re still 3rd place in the division, and let the dolphins beat you at HOME last week? What exactly will you be making fun of us for??? Even if we lose tonight we’re a game ahead and still have a shot at the playoffs where we won’t get Tebow’d out of the first round…

  106. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:45 PM

    Jgedgar,

    As a Dolphin fan I’m still pissed we didn’t win that game but our defense couldn’t close the deal BUT that Panther defense is legit. Luke Kuechly is a one man wrecking crew on defense & IMO deserves Defensive Player of the Year consideration.

    If DeAngelo continues to run the ball like he did yesterday then they definitely stand a chance against the Niners &/or the Seahwaks who I believe are the two best teams in the NFL. Broncos have no defense.

  107. ghost26 says: Dec 16, 2013 1:53 PM

    BigBen,

    You have a great QB but you’re defense is old. Brett Keisel???? Ryan Clark???? Ike Taylor??? Come on…All good players but they’re slowing down plus Lamar Woodly & Troy Polamalu are WAY overpaid & probably gone. Jarvis Jones & Jason Worilds are a good start but the reality is that it’s going to take another two years to rebuild that defense

  108. jtbsteeler says: Dec 16, 2013 2:04 PM

    After an 0-4 start to the season, the Steelers will still finish the season 4-2 in the division. We own the division even in our worse seasons.

  109. buzzbeaubank says: Dec 16, 2013 3:35 PM

    jtbsteeler says:
    Dec 16, 2013 2:04 PM
    After an 0-4 start to the season, the Steelers will still finish the season 4-2 in the division. We own the division even in our worse seasons.
    —————
    It’s not exactly owning the division when you split with the two teams in front of you and sweep the one behind you (assuming that even happens). I would say “owning” it means at least 5-1 and actually, you know, WINNING THE DIVISION.

  110. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 16, 2013 4:14 PM

    buzzbeaubank says:
    Dec 16, 2013 3:35 PM
    jtbsteeler says:
    Dec 16, 2013 2:04 PM
    After an 0-4 start to the season, the Steelers will still finish the season 4-2 in the division. We own the division even in our worse seasons.
    —————
    It’s not exactly owning the division when you split with the two teams in front of you and sweep the one behind you (assuming that even happens). I would say “owning” it means at least 5-1 and actually, you know, WINNING THE DIVISION.

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    Report comment. You are entitled to your biased Raven opinion, but who would have the most wins against division foes? If it’s the steelers it doesn’t count but if it’s the ravens it counts….ok I got this down now…raven logic…completely fair and objective…and Pitta wants respect……riiiiight!

  111. stoptrippn says: Dec 16, 2013 4:14 PM

    We wouldn’t be talking about this if Leon hall, TMays and Geno Atkins were playing

  112. nickster31 says: Dec 16, 2013 4:27 PM

    Seriously, comparing a Steelers vs Ravens game on Thanksgiving night, to a Bengals vs ANYONE game is a joke.

    Anyone doing that should be ashamed of themselves!

  113. buzzbeaubank says: Dec 16, 2013 4:55 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 16, 2013 4:14 PM

    You are entitled to your biased Raven opinion, but who would have the most wins against division foes? If it’s the steelers it doesn’t count but if it’s the ravens it counts….ok I got this down now…raven logic…completely fair and objective…and Pitta wants respect……riiiiight!
    ————————
    What are you talking about? I gave the criteria I considered would be necessary for “owning” the division, regardless of which team does it. As it stands now, Baltimore will probably go 3-3 in the division and split with everybody, and Cincy will also go 3-3, split with everybody, and win the division. I don’t think either record warrants a claim of “owning” the division. If you and jtbsteeler want to cling to a (3rd place) 4-2 division record (beat the Browns first), then go ahead and hang that banner at Heinz for all 46,000 to see.

  114. ravensfan1993 says: Dec 16, 2013 5:10 PM

    I just want to say as a die hard ravens fan, every Sunday is unpredictable and a team is never as good as they look win they win, and they are never as bad as they look when they lose. That being said, the Ravens, knowing their history, have a very solid chance at making the 6th seed, and possibly taking the division title again. But every game is different and cannot be taken lightly.

    Also, grow some hair on your nuts, steeler fans. Give the ravens the respect they deserve and any maybe we’ll do the same.

  115. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 16, 2013 5:47 PM

    What are you talking about? I gave the criteria I considered would be necessary for “owning” the division, regardless of which team does it. As it stands now, Baltimore will probably go 3-3 in the division and split with everybody, and Cincy will also go 3-3, split with everybody, and win the division. I don’t think either record warrants a claim of “owning” the division. If you and jtbsteeler want to cling to a (3rd place) 4-2 division record (beat the Browns first), then go ahead and hang that banner at Heinz for all 46,000 to see.

    Spin it any way but in the steelers favor. If you have the most wins therefore you owned the division. Because the ravens didn’t do don’t try to devalue it….it’s the raven way, but try to rise above it and be fair.

    Lastly, so many raven fans always bring up respect that is deserved….. Respect is never deserved it is earned…adults know when it has been earned…keep trying.

  116. steelersfanfromtheseventies says: Dec 16, 2013 6:15 PM

    haterade999 says:
    Dec 16, 2013 12:42 PM
    Take this in Ravens fans. You’ve made it, you aren’t even in the playoffs yet and you’ve made it as the team to beat in the AFCN.

    If Steelers fans weren’t envious of that, they wouldn’t be here.

    How often do Ravens fans hang out on Steeler’s articles?

    Every one.

  117. jonsilver1947 says: Dec 16, 2013 6:54 PM

    Not a fan of any AFC North team…using the word “own” means your team went 5-1 or 6-0 in the division…”wins the division” is different, of course…

  118. SmashMouthFootball says: Dec 16, 2013 7:01 PM

    Its pretty lame when all you can salvage from the season is to claim the best division record (assuming you beat Browns). Sort of like last year when the only thing you could claim was beating Ravens with Charlie Batch. Its all irrelevant but when you suck you look for the little victories I guess.

  119. buzzbeaubank says: Dec 16, 2013 7:03 PM

    “Owning” the AFCN Since 2002
    2002: PIT 6-0
    2004: PIT 5-1
    2005: CIN 5-1
    2006: BAL 5-1
    2007: PIT 5-1
    2008: PIT 6-0
    2009: CIN 6-0
    2010: PIT 5-1
    2011: BAL 6-0

    All of these are division winners. Can you still argue that PIT “owned” the division in 2013 while only sweeping (maybe!) the Browns and finishing 3rd? In the last 10 years, the division winner lost 2 games in 2003 and 2012. The rest are above with 1 or 0 losses. Again, if you still want to cling to this as some sort of accomplishment, go ahead. It’s just pretty sad, especially considering that PIT has owned the division for half of the last decade. There, did that stroke you enough? Do you feel respected?

  120. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 16, 2013 7:46 PM

    “Owning” the AFCN Since 2002
    2002: PIT 6-0
    2004: PIT 5-1
    2005: CIN 5-1
    2006: BAL 5-1
    2007: PIT 5-1
    2008: PIT 6-0
    2009: CIN 6-0
    2010: PIT 5-1
    2011: BAL 6-0

    All of these are division winners. Can you still argue that PIT “owned” the division in 2013 while only sweeping (maybe!) the Browns and finishing 3rd? In the last 10 years, the division winner lost 2 games in 2003 and 2012. The rest are above with 1 or 0 losses. Again, if you still want to cling to this as some sort of accomplishment, go ahead. It’s just pretty sad, especially considering that PIT has owned the division for half of the last decade. There, did that stroke you enough? Do you feel respected?

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    Steeler players are asking for respect like Pitta and you?….we always have it…..you want to be us but no one gives you the nod….why ? You are the example…..biased blind homerism…. Have 2 snickers and relax…deep breath..the ravens are and will always be steeler want to bees….keep trying.

  121. t8ertot says: Dec 16, 2013 8:29 PM

    Won’t happen. Bengals don’t lose at home

  122. mastereee says: Dec 17, 2013 2:25 AM

    flacco sucks! most overpaid player in the nfl!!! bid rather have raymond falco!!!

  123. Joemontanaflacco says: Dec 17, 2013 6:39 AM

    Steelers helmet butted a QB and a punter, fisted a defensive lineman, and their coach ran out into the field to block a player. And those are just the last four games. The only people who respect that kind of trashy behavior are wearing orange jumpsuits,

  124. thewhitehorsegeneral says: Dec 17, 2013 12:15 PM

    “Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 16, 2013 7:46 PM

    Steeler players are asking for respect like Pitta and you?….we always have it…..you want to be us but no one gives you the nod….why ? You are the example…..biased blind homerism…. Have 2 snickers and relax…deep breath..the ravens are and will always be steeler want to bees….keep trying.”

    Pitta isn’t asking for any respect, he is just saying we don’t get any. Nobody thought the Ravens could win it all last year. Nobody thought the Ravens would even sniff the playoffs this year with the amazing talents of Ray Lewis and Ed Reed leaving, losing Boldin, and Pitta being out all season, our LT finally falling apart, our starting LG out for the season. This just shows you how elite teams get it done. Despite the odds and lack of talent, here are the Ravens with a chance to win the division again, and to make the playoffs…again.

    Baltimore does NOT want to be the Steelers. The Steelers legacy harkens back to the mid 70′s when they won 4 superbowls all with a QB not considered “elite” by any means in Terry Bradshaw, the last one being in 1979. It took them until 2005 to win their next one, and then again in 2008.

    Baltimore didn’t even have a team from 1984 to 1995 and we won just as many superbowls as Pittsburgh did. It took us 4 years to win the first one as Ravens in 2000 (and 4th overall in Baltimore as the BALTIMORE COLTS won 3 championships), which was 5 years before The Steelers won their 5th. The Steelers won their 6th in 2008, and the Baltimore won their 5th in 2012 and have a chance to tie the legendary Steelers for 6 rings. Meanwhile Pittsburgh has had a team since 1933 and Baltimore didn’t even have football until 1953.

    Pittsburgh had a 40 year head start on Baltimore, and then a 12 year gap, and they have one more ring to show for it.

    And while the Ravens are already rebuilding and retooling for life after their stars have passed, Pittsburgh is aging VERY fast and will have to be looking at life without Polamalu and eventually Big Ben. Might be a rough few seasons ahead.

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