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Andy Dalton: Until you win, people can say whatever they want

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The Bengals’ hopes of ending their long wait for a playoff win went down with a resounding thud on Sunday thanks in large part to the performance of quarterback Andy Dalton.

Dalton threw two interceptions and lost a fumble as the Bengals offense melted down in the second half of a 27-10 home loss to the Chargers. That makes for total of six interceptions in three playoff losses and an offseason of questions about whether the Bengals will need to change quarterbacks to advance beyond the first round of the playoffs.

After the game, Dalton said he understood that blame for a loss like Sunday’s falls on the quarterback’s shoulders and that he was going to be getting a lot of it in the near future.

“Unfortunately, the last three years, we haven’t been able to win one of these playoff games,” Dalton said, via the team’s website. “Obviously, there is going to be a lot of criticism and talk, but until you win and prove people wrong, people can say whatever they want.”

Marvin Lewis said he had no questions about Dalton’s role in the future of the team as a result of Sunday’s performance, but some have to be asked in Cincinnati. Dalton’s heading into the final year of his contract, necessitating a decision about how both how long they want him running the offense and how much they’re willing to pay for the opportunity.

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109 Responses to “Andy Dalton: Until you win, people can say whatever they want”
  1. chargersdiehard says: Jan 5, 2014 9:26 PM

    And the guys on “the network” gave the advantage to the Bengals on QB and coaching before the game. Who dey?

  2. ctiggs says: Jan 5, 2014 9:29 PM

    Red Romo

  3. schlippsguysnightout says: Jan 5, 2014 9:29 PM

    We sure can say what we want, but you’ll still get 50M guaranteed for doing absolutely nothing in your profession.

    The AFC Matt Ryan Leaf

  4. willnit says: Jan 5, 2014 9:31 PM

    Gingers have no souls…or pocket presence.

  5. monkeyhateclean says: Jan 5, 2014 9:31 PM

    If Lewis really has no questions about Dalton’s viability as a QB, then ownership should have serious questions about Lewis as a viable head coach.

    One thing there is NO question of: The Chargers DOMINATION!!

  6. boyshole25 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:32 PM

    Rivers is an old cowboy you gotta watch guys like that

  7. bengalskuta82 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:32 PM

    Tough loss. Especially against a lousy team like San Diego. A team that had no business in the playoffs

  8. crownofthehelmet says: Jan 5, 2014 9:34 PM

    I think he’s earned the right to a long-term deal.

    – Steelers, Ravens, Browns – players, coaches and fans

  9. kezie says: Jan 5, 2014 9:36 PM

    lol at Red romo

  10. rodh32340 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:37 PM

    I saw the same thing! QB ranking went to Cincy?!? There are no football experts…who have played the game….rather see stats guys give their views! Turnovers killed Cincy…next year they will slide down the division.

  11. djlexluger says: Jan 5, 2014 9:38 PM

    ^ L O L!

  12. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Jan 5, 2014 9:38 PM

    Andy when you got up this morning you did realize it was a playoff game right ?

  13. ravensdominate says: Jan 5, 2014 9:40 PM

    No Andy, they can still say whatever they want about you when you win too. Just ask Joe Flacco.

  14. apkyletexas says: Jan 5, 2014 9:41 PM

    They’ll still say what they want after you win.

    Just ask Flacco, Eli, and Big Ben. Hell, just ask Dilfer.

    Meanwhile, no one dares speak up about a guy like Tom Brady who got his rings through an organized cheating scheme, and hasn’t won anything since. Or John Elway, who also got his rings through organized cheating, and wasn’t able to win one without it.

  15. pensacolavolfan says: Jan 5, 2014 9:41 PM

    How many teams have made the playoffs the last 3 years?

  16. green41563 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:42 PM

    Dalton makes a lot of big plays and a lot of mistakes. The mistakes suggest it’ll be hard for him to become elite, but if he improves just a shade, he could be a fringe top-10 QB for the next 10 years or so, and that’s good enough to win a Super Bowl if everything else falls into place.

  17. coltzfan166 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:44 PM

    I think Jets fans would gladly take Dalton over what they currently have

  18. partmachine says: Jan 5, 2014 9:44 PM

    I’ll take Joe Flacco’s low regular season QB rating over Scott Farkus and his 1-6 td:int playoff ratio all week long, but especially on Sundays when Dr. Tightbelt is watching football.

  19. bobzilla1001 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:44 PM

    Other than Denver, Seattle and New Orleans, this might be the worst collection of postseason teams in the history of the league…
    Over the past two postseasons, the weakest teams have emerged as Super Bowl winners: The 9-7 Giants in 2011 and the 10-6 Ravens last season. This isn’t “parity;” it’s mediocrity. The NFL is spiraling downward in terms of quality teams.
    The Chargers winning it all shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone…
    And to think some want to add one or even two more teams to the playoff mix. The NFL won’t be happy until a 6-10 team wins a championship.

  20. raiders85 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:44 PM

    He looks lost and over matched just not a playoff worthy qb apparently maybe a decent backup but they can no longer allow him to hold them back they have everything but a qb

  21. Phil says: Jan 5, 2014 9:47 PM

    And who are they going to get to replace him that will be an upgrade?

    ……… Go ahead. I’ll wait.

  22. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Jan 5, 2014 9:48 PM

    Good. I strongly dislike redheads.

  23. restorativejusticeprogram says: Jan 5, 2014 9:49 PM

    Two teams that would be greatly improved with new “intelligent” coaches that know how to manage a game: Bengals and Packers.

    So obvious it hurts.

  24. 8oneanddones says: Jan 5, 2014 9:50 PM

    Losing is one thing, laying a massive egg three straight years is something else.

  25. packhawk04 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:52 PM

    Apparently andy didnt read the comments from the niners-packers article. A super bowl MVP takes a lot of heat in there.

  26. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Jan 5, 2014 9:52 PM

    I’ve pretty much quit watching pregame shows. People need to understand just because an “expert” on TV said it, it’s still their opinion.

  27. gmsalpha says: Jan 5, 2014 9:53 PM

    Andrew > Andy

  28. pftspellchecker says: Jan 5, 2014 9:55 PM

    Bengals fan typing this. We get it. We suck. Dalton messed up. Can’t get over the hump. Lewis needs to go. Zimmer is the man, maybe not. Mikey Brown needs to change. We need to boo them. We got it. Message received loud and clear. And I might agree with some of the messages being sent our way.

    But there is something to be said for just enjoying the game and it’s simple pleasures on a Sunday afternoon. The game is beautiful on good days and bad. Even in a tough loss that stings, it is possible to find enjoyment being a Bengals fan (and same for whatever team you root for). Good luck to your teams and may we all learn to enjoy the long journey.

  29. ravenswhat says: Jan 5, 2014 9:56 PM

    I for one am shocked, shocked that doctorrustbelt is nowhere to be found!!

  30. rainmaker1982 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:57 PM

    How come no one is asking for Marvin Lewis to be fired? He’s the luckiest coach in the NFL… 10 years with the Bengals and no playoff wins. LOL.

  31. buffalowned says: Jan 5, 2014 9:58 PM

    I understand the frustration with Andy Dalton but people act like the Bengals can just go out and grab an elite QB because theirs struggles in the playoffs. It could be a lot worse than 3 straight post-season losses (try being a Bills fan going 15 years without the playoffs). Statistically, he has been pretty good for being a 3rd year guy. I’m not saying he’s a franchise guy buy any means, but you’re not going to find a better option in free agency and good luck finding one in the 20’s in the draft the way QB’s are going these days. There are plenty of teams that would love to upgrade their QB situations. You’re not entitled to an elite QB just because you have an elite roster.

  32. shutupbrees says: Jan 5, 2014 9:58 PM

    In 3 playoff games AJ Green has 13 receptions for 160 yards. I don’t think people can rip Dalton and give Green a free pass.

  33. tpkaufma says: Jan 5, 2014 10:00 PM

    Translated, Dalton really meant “Until you win & as the team leader, dont hand over the football to the other team 3 times in a playoff game”! If it looks & quacks like a duck, its a dud, er, I mean a duck. Dalton is a loser & so is Marvin Lewis, both gotta go or Cincy is done every playoffs.

  34. raiderapologist says: Jan 5, 2014 10:04 PM

    getting a lot of it in the near future.

    “Unfortunately, the last three years, we haven’t been able to win one of these playoff games,” Dalton said, via the team’s website.
    ————
    It’s not “we”, Opie. It’s you.

  35. gdublud says: Jan 5, 2014 10:05 PM

    isn’t Andy Dalton in somebody’s top 5 with Bob the sandwich guy

  36. jmblosser82 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:06 PM

    The regular season is not Dalton’s issue, like Manning, it’s the playoffs. Except he doesn’t have the skills to take the team on his back. Flacco took the team in his back last playoffs and coupled with inspired defensive play they won it all. Then he followed it up with a huge stinker if a year, they shipped Boldin out, Birk retired, and Pitta was hurt most of the season. You can place some if the blame in the line but it ultimately falls at the feet if Flacco.

    Back to the topic at hand, Dalton has a deep and talented defense, a top receiver, good tandem of TEs and a good RB tandem. Sanu has underachieved but from what I’ve seen the other receiver(Jones?)is turning out fine. They were 4-0 against playoff teams this year(3-0 against division winners). They are just no good during prime time, 1-2 in the regular season(split with the steelers and a loss to the dolphins)and 0-1 in this years playoffs. As long as they are not in the spotlight Dalton can win.

  37. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Jan 5, 2014 10:09 PM

    In 3 playoff games AJ Green has 13 receptions for 160 yards. I don’t think people can rip Dalton and give Green a free pass.

    If Cinci had won, Dalton would be getting all the glory. Luck’s ints was why the Colts were down, but he gets all the credit even though TY went off that game.

  38. rubenxx7 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:10 PM

    i lost money cuz of that non playoff playing playoff redh!eaded fool. i thought 3rd times a charm boy i wad wrong

  39. siggtacular says: Jan 5, 2014 10:11 PM

    As a Ravens fan, I’m glad to see the Bungles prove yet again, they’re not worthy of a Super Bowl. Ravens will reclaim the North next year.

    Go Ravens 2014

    2x Super Bowl Champions

  40. thegreatgabbert says: Jan 5, 2014 10:14 PM

    In the off season Andy will undergo a hair transplant. Using black plugs.

  41. boyshole25 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:16 PM

    Brady manning(s) brees roethlisberger Rodgers they are the only qbs worth mentioning

  42. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:16 PM

    Marvin Lewis said he had no questions about Dalton’s role in the future of the team as a result of Sunday’s performance,
    _________________________

    I expect the fans have plenty of questions as to whether Lewis should continue coaching the team however.

    He’s a good coach but he just can’t seem to get his teams beyond a certain level of play and success.

    Unfortunately the pool of available coaches isn’t great and they’d probably be more likely to end up with someone worse instead of better than Lewis.

  43. footballchic777 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:18 PM

    Dalton is an easy scapegoat. How about the things he did well…..strikes to a fumbling Gio and a dropping AJ. Both at the goal line? An O line that gave him no protection. Win or lose, he will be panned. He has improved over the 3 years he has QBd. He has taken us to 3 straight playoffs…in 8 years, Carson, a #1 Heisman trophy winning draft pick! took us to 2. It took Peyton Manning 5 years to win his first playoff game, and he didn’t go to the playoffs his first year. Cam Newton and 3 other QBs were drafted before him 3 years ago…..at 1, 8, 10, and 12. Between them, they have 2 playoff appearances. 1 for Ponder last year, and the first for Cam this year. (Dalton was drafted 35th).
    Also, Andy Daltons’ rookie contract is no where near $50 mil, it was just north of $5 mil.
    It sucks to lose, and yes, he made some bad plays, but it isn’t all on him!

  44. shacker8 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:19 PM

    @Phil
    I’d take McCown or Cousins for Andy and a 6 or 7th round pick. Both get the edge over Dalton at this point.

    No time to draft and groom a rookie.

  45. bigtganks says: Jan 5, 2014 10:23 PM

    detectivejimmymcnulty says:
    Jan 5, 2014 10:09 PM
    In 3 playoff games AJ Green has 13 receptions for 160 yards. I don’t think people can rip Dalton and give Green a free pass.

    If Cinci had won, Dalton would be getting all the glory. Luck’s ints was why the Colts were down, but he gets all the credit even though TY went off that game.
    —————

    We now know Andy Dalton posts on PFT.

  46. steelwarriors55 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:31 PM

    Steelers quick fix to improve the ”old and slow” defense? Andy Dalton and Joe Flacco’s extensions to long term contracts + whoever the Browns have at QB.

  47. justintuckrule says: Jan 5, 2014 10:33 PM

    Yeah. My guy throws a million picks in the regular season but at least when he does make the playoffs he doesn’t urinate himself like all these other hacks.

  48. green41563 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:35 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:

    He’s a good coach but he just can’t seem to get his teams beyond a certain level of play and success.
    __________________________________

    Yeah, that’s called a bad coach. He’s got a top-15 QB, very good skill players, and a top-5 defense, and he’s out in the first round AGAIN. In fact, he’s had top-10 defenses each of the last three years, and he still hasn’t won jack.

    Do you know what guys like Mike Munchak and Rex Ryan would do with this team?

  49. brenenostler says: Jan 5, 2014 10:36 PM

    So after all those bad years Cincinnati had in the last 15 years, they make the playoffs for 3 straight years, and people say Marvin and Andy should go? Okay, enjoy those 4-12 seasons all over again.

  50. tictoccpthook says: Jan 5, 2014 10:41 PM

    Take a lesson from the Browns, changing QB’s every time you lose is no recipe for success. Stick together and focus on basics.

    I know your team will not do that. The Steelers will, and they will be back on top next year. Go Steelers.

  51. pillowporkers says: Jan 5, 2014 10:42 PM

    Dalton no doubt played bad but I totally agree with some of the other bloggers on here who actually watched the game who know there was plenty of blame to go around. The Bengals coaches somewhat curiously gave up the run in the second half, and the oline was a swinging gate. Dalton was under serious pressure every time he dropped back. AJ Green didn’t show up either. Dalton put it right on his hands deep and AJ didn’t make the play. Top off gio’s fumble at the goal line, and I think there is plently of blame to go around. Obviously Andy included with all his terrible turnovers. That sliding fumble was awful and both licks were easy. Just simple jumped routes.

  52. i10east says: Jan 5, 2014 10:44 PM

    Daniel Tosh said that Beaker from the Muppet Babies is the #1 ginger. I tend to agree with him.

  53. artn4gkr says: Jan 5, 2014 10:48 PM

    Andy Dalton = Tony Romo

  54. fredsingleton says: Jan 5, 2014 10:50 PM

    green41563 says:
    Jan 5, 2014 10:35 PM
    harrisonhits2 says:

    He’s a good coach but he just can’t seem to get his teams beyond a certain level of play and success.
    __________________________________

    Yeah, that’s called a bad coach. He’s got a top-15 QB, very good skill players, and a top-5 defense, and he’s out in the first round AGAIN. In fact, he’s had top-10 defenses each of the last three years, and he still hasn’t won jack.

    Do you know what guys like Mike Munchak and Rex Ryan would do with this team?

    ____________________________

    Top-15 QB??? Yeah, maybe top-15 in the AFC. Dalton has shown that he struggles under pressure, no way he’s in the better half of QBs. Their defense is why they’re so good.

    His offensive line although didn’t make it any easier for him.

  55. chodetoranto says: Jan 5, 2014 10:50 PM

    bobzilla1001 says:
    Jan 5, 2014 9:44 PM
    Other than Denver, Seattle and New Orleans, this might be the worst collection of postseason teams in the history of the league…
    Over the past two postseasons, the weakest teams have emerged as Super Bowl winners: The 9-7 Giants in 2011 and the 10-6 Ravens last season. This isn’t “parity;” it’s mediocrity. The NFL is spiraling downward in terms of quality teams.
    The Chargers winning it all shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone…
    And to think some want to add one or even two more teams to the playoff mix. The NFL won’t be happy until a 6-10 team wins a championship.
    =================================

    Aww someones team played mediocre during the regular season and miss the playoffs?? I saw-wee..

    Its the playoffs dummie the winner of the tournament is the SB champ!! Hello!

  56. yousuxxors says: Jan 5, 2014 10:52 PM

    red Romo ….. I think he should dye black strips in his hair next year.

  57. joerevs300 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:59 PM

    With a comment/quote like that, I’m 100% convinced Dalton’s head has hit the ceiling and he’s tumbling back down to Earth at a clip not unlike a satellite that’s run out of gas in space.

    I mean, come on. The Texans have obviously shown they weren’t world beaters, and you couldn’t even get ONE TOUCHDOWN in two games against them.

    You’re at home, in a playoff game, against a team that (my estimate) had a 1-2% chance in Week 16 of making the playoffs, a team that you ALREADY BEAT this season, and laid one of the biggest playoff eggs in Bengals history, and that’s saying something.

    Is it REALLY so hard to just say this:
    “It’s 100% on me. I didn’t play well enough. I’ve got to go back to basics, bust my ass, study and work harder then I ever have to fix this. I let my teammates down with my play today”.

    Instead of “People will say what they want until I win”. Could you EVER see Peyton Manning or Tom Brady saying that?

    Andy Dalton isn’t a Ryan Leaf/J.Russell level of bust, but you have to throw him in the conversation with the Matt Ryan’s and Matt Stafford’s of the world at this stage of the game, i.e., can these guys REALLY win you a Super Bowl?

  58. ronaldmexico7 says: Jan 5, 2014 11:03 PM

    Red Chip Kelly.

  59. tomcous says: Jan 5, 2014 11:07 PM

    Bengals should send a 2nd rnd pick to Washington for Kirk Cousins

  60. urbusted2 says: Jan 5, 2014 11:12 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:

    He’s a good coach but he just can’t seem to get his teams beyond a certain level of play and success.
    __________________________________

    Yeah, that’s called a bad coach. He’s got a top-15 QB, very good skill players, and a top-5 defense, and he’s out in the first round AGAIN. In fact, he’s had top-10 defenses each of the last three years, and he still hasn’t won jack.

    Do you know what guys like Mike Munchak and Rex Ryan would do with this team?

    Is this a trick question?

  61. jacobk621 says: Jan 5, 2014 11:12 PM

    Opie Dalton got treated like a red-headed step-child once again !!!!!!

  62. vincentbojackson says: Jan 5, 2014 11:13 PM

    Dalton blew it again today, but why is nobody bashing a Swiss cheese defense that got pounded for 200 yards on the ground?

  63. bullcharger says: Jan 5, 2014 11:22 PM

    Just imagine that team with an elite QB. It would maybe be the best team in the NFL.

  64. bullcharger says: Jan 5, 2014 11:34 PM

    bobzilla1001 says:
    Jan 5, 2014 9:44 PM
    Other than Denver, Seattle and New Orleans, this might be the worst collection of postseason teams in the history of the league…
    Over the past two postseasons, the weakest teams have emerged as Super Bowl winners: The 9-7 Giants in 2011 and the 10-6 Ravens last season. This isn’t “parity;” it’s mediocrity. The NFL is spiraling downward in terms of quality teams.
    The Chargers winning it all shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone…
    And to think some want to add one or even two more teams to the playoff mix. The NFL won’t be happy until a 6-10 team wins a championship.

    ———-

    Huh? All playoffs are the same in every sport. You get in and you can win it if you play your best at that moment. See the LA Kings, Florida Marlins etc. It’s how playoffs work. Just so you know, there hasn’t been a Super Bowl without at least one #1 or #2 seed since 2000 and probably long before that. Good teams do win the Super Bowl regularly.

  65. bobzilla1001 says: Jan 5, 2014 11:37 PM

    chodetoronto:
    I go back to the days when anything less than a 10-4 record got teams an early offseason. The postseason wasn’t meant for 7-9, 8-8, 8-7-1 or 9-7 teams. The postseason should be a showcase for the best of the best. There was a time when that was the case, which hasn’t been lately.

  66. mmmpierogi says: Jan 5, 2014 11:45 PM

    Bengals did better in the regular season, but Ravens or Steelers arguably would have done better come the playoffs. Ultimately, AFCN was fairly weak this year, so no surprise. Always next year.

  67. ravensfan19 says: Jan 5, 2014 11:46 PM

    As a Ravens fan I’m so happy the Bengals have him, their so talented everywhere else and hes holding him back lmao. I think I speak for all Ravens, Steelers and Browns fan when I say Cincy keep him, he deserves a long term deal looooool

  68. theeperspective says: Jan 6, 2014 12:01 AM

    I remember reading through the Bengals vs. Ravens game article this year. Bengals fans were all putting stats up comparing stats of Dalton and Flacco, saying how much better Dalton was. How’d that playoff game go… again. Here’s my stat for you. Watching a playoff win is awesome! The feeling doesn’t get much better. Winning a second playoff game is better than the first. Winning the AFC Championship game… words can’t explain. Winning the Superbowl… Heaven. You wouldn’t understand this though. Unless you have a sharp memory. 1991. I get it the Ravens didn’t make it this year. But because of the cap, that’s how it works. Good teams have to reload. Ravens need a line and another receiver. We’ll be back. You may be back too, but I pray to God your team isn’t the team representing the AFC North in the playoffs. Your an embarrassment.

  69. fifthinterception says: Jan 6, 2014 12:06 AM

    1 TD 6 INTs and a lost fumble in playoff games

    Even Romo isn’t this bad in the postseason

  70. stevenwilliams2013 says: Jan 6, 2014 12:16 AM

    During the game Andy was channeling his inner Mark Sanchez.

  71. steelcurtainn says: Jan 6, 2014 12:23 AM

    One and done.

  72. fancyleague says: Jan 6, 2014 12:26 AM

    siggtacular says:

    As a Ravens fan, I’m glad to see the Bungles prove yet again, they’re not worthy of a Super Bowl. Ravens will reclaim the North next year.

    ——————————————————-

    The Ravens need to worry about staying ahead of Cleveland in the North. Your QB problem might be worse than Cincy’s.

  73. aldante66 says: Jan 6, 2014 12:31 AM

    Andy had a good year. So did Cinci. Just wasn’t there day. Hey he hits the guy at the three and he fumbels what could have been a TD and the game goes to hell from there. Andy couldn’t do it all.

  74. caeser12 says: Jan 6, 2014 12:32 AM

    Don’t worry Andy, contrary to what MOST of us saw with our own eyes, the narrative being pushed by the so-called “expert” sports media is that, the fumble by Bernard is what caused you to lose, not your 3 turnovers.

    At least you know better, and for that you get some respect points, but yea you sucked today.

  75. spg3081 says: Jan 6, 2014 12:36 AM

    A few folks have said something of this sort & I’d like to expound on it some. The Bengals suffered through a wretched stretch of seasons. There’s no reason to call for the head of Marvin Lewis and stump for the Bengals to draft a QB that will replace Dalton. NFL fans are becoming spoiled by the meteoric rise and instant success of bad teams one season to the next. The fan boom of the last decade or so has brought a ton of new fans (and new money) to the NFL. Maybe they don’t realize that sometimes success requires several years to be fully realized. Dalton is still a fairly young QB. Maybe he never advances past his current skill level. That’s not likely, he’s still learning to win (by win I mean making the playoffs, winning the division, post double digit wins year after year after year, like the great franchises) at the same time that an entire franchise is learning to win. Not every young QB is winning 10+ games, advancing in the playoffs, winning multiple divisions, etc. right out of the box. Maybe folks have grown to expect what we’ve seen in the last decade from Ben, Flacco, Ryan, Luck, Wilson, and so on (obviously some are more successful than others. Maybe, just maybe, the Bengals are on a slower growth path – a couple of wild cards and out, followed by winning the division, the next year winning in the wild card round, the next year obtaining a top two seed…

    That used to be the norm in the NFL. Bengals fans, would you prefer a couple hot shot years making a run at the AFC title game followed by more mediocre years (a la Mark Sanchez) or a slow, sometimes painful progression where they learn from some tough losses? Jesus it’s not like you’re the Browns who are trying to grow while losing 11 and 12. Your team will march back out there, likely return to the playoffs, and whomever their facing probably won’t have gone through as many battles together as the Bengals. Hopefully they stick together, step up, and take the next step in 2014-15. Until then, try to enjoy not losing 10-13 games the last few seasons. Browns fans are secretly jealous.

  76. eatitfanboy says: Jan 6, 2014 12:54 AM

    bengalskuta82 says:
    Jan 5, 2014 9:32 PM
    Tough loss. Especially against a lousy team like San Diego. A team that had no business in the playoffs

    The Chargers would have easily won your lousy division. They had 4 games against two teams that won at least 11 games. Oh, and by the way, beat both of them once.

    Apparently, your team was the one that had no business being in the playoffs.

  77. ravensterps says: Jan 6, 2014 1:20 AM

    Peyton Manning has ONE Super Bowl. It’s not easy to win in the post-season. The Bengals are much better with Dalton than they are without him. As a Ravens fan, I’d be thrilled if the Bengals “moved on” from Dalton because there’s not really a better option.

  78. t8ertot says: Jan 6, 2014 1:55 AM

    Ok Andy. I’ll say this. You stink. You can’t play when it matters. I don’t care about your franchise records. Because when the game is on the line in the playoffs, you’re a scared puppy. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, and please take Marvin Lewis with you

  79. stevet321 says: Jan 6, 2014 2:13 AM

    Andy Dalton is an NFL QB that is willing to own a mistake and will be professional and learn from it.

    I’d take him and that attitude ans skill over a big stat QB sitting at home that doesn’t think he needs to learn.

    Andy Dalton has what it takes to be a successful franchise NFL QB. LOTS of teams don’t even GET to .500 seasons or the playoffs at all.

    Take the hit, learn and improve. Genuine pro.

  80. kingghidora says: Jan 6, 2014 3:33 AM

    It’s been obvious for a long time that Dalton is NOT a good NFL QB. He has some good stats but look at the talent he has to work with! He has 10 good receivers to throw the ball to and some really good running backs not to mention a great offensive line. Let’s not forget that SD was healthy while Cincy is playing 3rd and 4th string guys on the O line. Same goes for their defense. They are seriously banged up. They have pro bowl guys that have been out for a long time. And I don’t get the talk about Lewis needing to go. He’s the guy who put together all that talent. It’s DALTON that keeps giving away playoff games. Seriously what QB fumbles without being touched? Who throws a bomb when a first down is needed desperately? Who throws into double coverage when you can’t see past the line of scrimmage? Who throws pathetic passes that are incredibly easy to pick off? And how many Super Bowl QB’s get there with 6 interceptions, a fumble and ONE TD pass? Dalton is the answer to every question except the last one and no QB has ever done that badly and made the Super Bowl.

    Face it. Dalton is a choker.

  81. bigredscouting says: Jan 6, 2014 4:51 AM

    Saying something like this makes me respect him a lot more.

  82. bengaldom2 says: Jan 6, 2014 5:24 AM

    Coaches are to blame for the lack of preparedness. The game plan on offense was so blah and the team showed no urgency to score quick taking 20+30 seconds to snap the ball. Dalton is a good quarterback who needs some real coaching to move forward.

  83. joetoronto says: Jan 6, 2014 5:36 AM

    Romo is a mental midget like Dalton, but Romo is vastly superior physically.

    Romo can make all the throws, Dalton shouldn’t even be allowed to TRY some throws.

    Tom the guy who said AJ Green dropped that long ball, he didn’t, we all saw what happened. The ball took too long to get there and when Green got his hands on it, the defender knocked it out of him.

  84. NJ49er says: Jan 6, 2014 5:37 AM

    Is there a category yet for Red Romo?

  85. restorativejusticeprogram says: Jan 6, 2014 6:33 AM

    Marvin Lewis is a terrible coach for today’s NFL.

    11 years and not a single play-off win!

  86. cranespy says: Jan 6, 2014 6:54 AM

    Hang tough Andy…..it’s always darkest just before dawn.

  87. no1dman43troy says: Jan 6, 2014 7:24 AM

    Who’s worse the red squirtgun or fluncco? Well this season fluncco was worse but overall the red squirtgun gets the nod. Only because fluncco has a Superbowl (albeit it was all luck) but he still has it. Any Ravens fan who doesn’t think it was lucky ask urself this question. If The Steelers made it past the Broncos on a jump ball Joe throw it up and hope for the best u would b screaming how lucky they were to win the game. And u would b right… Nothing but luck and a bonehead play by the Bronco safety. Any team that let Batch come in to their house and beat them should have been eliminated from Superbowl contention by the league… On the spot!!! So u should have been one and done. With that being said the Ravens got lucky and fluncco has a ring. But he still sucks as proven this season. But hey bungle fans at least ur owners won’t give the red squirtgun the worst contract in the history of the NFL like the Ratbirds owners gave to fluncco. Bottom line Roethlisberger is by FAR the best QB in the division. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!!! Bungles in full force yesterday!!!

  88. dcapettini says: Jan 6, 2014 7:29 AM

    Hey guys, in case you didn’t notice, San Diego played pretty good. They have gotten hot at the right time and it wouldn’t surprise me if they win another. And, they play in the toughest division in the AFC and maybe in the league.

    That being said, Dalton did not look very good last week either. He threw 3 picks and if it were not for the lame offense of the Ravens, they would have been out of that game early. The Bengals are all about defense and when it doesn’t have a great game, they lose. Dalton’s a decent journeyman QB. Which 3 players do you want to sacrifice for, perhaps, a better one?

  89. hunnymoney says: Jan 6, 2014 7:35 AM

    What I find amazing is the lack of negative buzz about Dalton from the talking heads on the 4-letter network and elsewhere. Tim Tebow couldn’t go to the bathroom without ten guys talking about the size, color and how his footwork looked while he was going, and Tebow has WON a playoff game. Dalton has had three opportunities, has lost them all while looking bad doing it, and all you hear is crickets chirping on the NFL LIVE set. If Tebow was bad enough to take the constant beating that he got, and he WON a playoff game, then how is it possible that Dalton continues to escape meaningful criticism when he not only can’t win a playoff game, he can’t even play well while losing? Cincinnati has a tough decision this offseason. If Dalton is what I think he is, and his playoff performances certainly make that a distinct possibility, signing him long-term could set the Bengals back 5 years or more. They at least need to draft a QB that they can groom to give him meaningful competition.

  90. kev86 says: Jan 6, 2014 7:56 AM

    Seems like a good kid:person to me. I’ll root for him to win one unless its against my team.

  91. z06vision says: Jan 6, 2014 8:06 AM

    Who has Andy Dalton beat in the Playoffs when it mattered?

  92. janessa31888 says: Jan 6, 2014 8:08 AM

    Andy can take comfort in the fact that he is NOT the worst red headed QB. That title clearly belongs to Brandon Weeden. Big arm but no brain equals bust. We are shipping him back to Oklahoma with Return To Sender : Defective Product stamped on him.
    Signed,
    Fed up Browns fan.

  93. fishyinalittledishy says: Jan 6, 2014 8:09 AM

    You guys have got to the playoffs again, you are what they call a playoff caliber team and look to remain so for a few more years yet. Its frustrating no doubt but hey enjoy the fact that you will probably be back next year for another go.

  94. theroc5156 says: Jan 6, 2014 8:14 AM

    As a Bengal fan, I’m obviously disappointed in yesterday’s performance by Dalton. The worst play he had (and he had a lot of them) was his fumble. He slid headfirst WAAAYY to early and yards before the first down marker and then fumbled the ball. His picks were no bargain either. I mean, they were driving late to make it a 3 point game and throws his patented “WTF interception”.

    That being said, I am going to give credit to the Chargers defensive coordinator John Pagano. The adjustments he made at the half worked great and he totally outcoached Jay Gruden. The Bengals had no answer for the pass rush the Chargers had in the second half, so Dalton had absolutely no time to throw. The Bengals offensive line was like a sieve.

    The Chargers played a solid game all around and won it. Rivers was efficient, the run game was terrific and their offensive line was dominating. They deserved to win.

  95. troy43mvp says: Jan 6, 2014 8:21 AM

    When an aging Ike Taylor can shut down A.J. without any help whatsoever in two regular season games, you had to be worried Cincy. Said it before and I will say it again…win a playoff game before ya talk smack because now you look even more silly.

  96. jm91rs says: Jan 6, 2014 8:34 AM

    As a Bengals fan I’ll be the first to say that Andy Dalton cannot win a big game. Even if he gets over the playoff hump, it will be one game won and then done. Something in his DNA doesn’t allow him to do well on prime time or playoff games.
    That said, be careful what you wish for. There are probably 10-15 teams in the league that would gladly take Andy Dalton over any other available options. The guy wins enough games to keep the team relevant. The thought of starting over with an unproven QB is not a good one.
    Here’s what you do. Sign Andy now to an extension, he’s as cheap as he’s ever going to be. Draft a QB in round 2 or 3 of this year’s draft. This will push Andy and if he can’t get over the hump then he’s trade bait for one of the bottom feeder teams that needs to win some regular season games during a re-building era. Andy is easily not the worst QB in the league, so he definitely has value and you don’t want him walking away next year and getting nothing in return.

  97. steeltroll says: Jan 6, 2014 8:35 AM

    Now, if, on the other hand, Ben Roethlisberger was throwing to AJ Green…

  98. bengalsucker says: Jan 6, 2014 9:12 AM

    I don’t get why people are saying “don’t complain about having a QB that can get you to the playoffs” and “i’m sure many other teams would be glad to have him”. I, for one, am not happy with just making the playoffs every year. The goal is to win the Super Bowl correct? If you’re happy with your team just making the playoffs regularly then you need to make loftier goals for yourself and other things. I’d like to make it to the Super Bowl sometime in my lifetime so just making the playoffs and losing isn’t good enough for me.

  99. kmartin173 says: Jan 6, 2014 9:23 AM

    At least Dalton got them there.

    Signed,
    Disgruntled Cowboys fan

  100. danmarinos1stlovechild says: Jan 6, 2014 9:46 AM

    He should change his nickname from the RedRifle to the RedShotgun cuz he was spraying the field!

  101. mkoogs says: Jan 6, 2014 9:51 AM

    Yes, Bad Andy showed up in the second half. But, A.J. Green waits for a well thrown long ball to drop into his lap instead of going up for it. Gio fumbles again, the O-line and the D-line stunk, and the offensive play calling was atrocious. It was a total team failure in the second half.

  102. kingghidora says: Jan 6, 2014 10:02 AM

    Again Dalton has a long list of talented players to get his offense going. I knew SD was a good team. The Bengals were lucky as all get out to beat them earlier out west. I know the Bengals are badly banged up and they have come up with decent players to fill in time after time. Like it or not that is something the coach is responsible for. The reason Lewis is still the coach at Cincy is that he took the worst team in the league and built a powerhouse. The one thing they lack is a top level QB. People asked what players they could trade to get a good QB. There is such a thing as a draft. Besides that the Bengals have a wealth of talent and they could shake loose of a few players for a proven QB. They need to strike while the iron is hot before their current talent gets beat down too bad. You don’t get that many chances to win it all. And with the right QB I think the Bengals can win it all. Sure they would need to stay healthy but that’s always true. A lot of the reason SD played so well is their injured players from early in the season made a comeback and they were much healthier than Cincy as a result. It’s not that easy to replace Geno Atkins not to mention all the other talented players they have injured. But they have 3 great tight ends. There’s one player they could trade. Two of those guys were banged up pretty bad for the SD game BTW. That alone hurt the Bengals a lot. Those guys have been key to the offense. They have a lot of good offensive linemen. Another guy for trading there IMO. How many good players does it take to get a proven QB? They could pick up a QB a team thinks is washed up. Look how bad Indy looked letting go of Manning. There are ways to get QB’s.

    Yes Dalton has led the team to 3 straight playoffs but he is not the QB Boomer or Anderson was. He never will be IMO. He is not accurate enough and he chokes.

  103. fwippel says: Jan 6, 2014 10:12 AM

    This is an example of the perils of trying to find a “diamond in the rough” QB instead of going after one with a high draft pick.

    Dalton’s a good QB, but it appears he’s hit his peak, and maybe the truth is he’s just not good enough to get his team over the hump.

    That said, if the Bengals are going to cut ties with him, they may also want to consider cutting ties with Marvin Lewis. Lewis is the second longest tenured coach in the league, and hasn’t won a playoff game during his more than a decade as the Bengals head coach. At some point, maybe Dalton could use some different (and perhaps better) coaching.

  104. philrat says: Jan 6, 2014 10:35 AM

    Cincinnatti game sold out only because procter and gamble bought the remaining tickets…fans weren’t interested in them.

    The stadium in Cincinnatti has been a sinkhole of debt for the city and Hamilton County, which came up with more than $500 million to build it nearly 20 years ago. Annual expenses, to include debt service, are now more than $40 million. The promised development has been meager. Other civic projects have been deferred, a hospital has been sold, and a property tax reduction rolled back … all to pay for that stadium. It was, according to a Wall Street Journal story, “one of the worst professional sports deals ever struck by a local government—soaking up unprecedented tax dollars and county resources while returning little economic benefit.”

    Other cities have been clipped by their NFL franchise (or another professional sports enterprise) but didn’t lose quite as much blood as Cincinnati.

  105. robyesno says: Jan 6, 2014 11:39 AM

    Too bad that Andy Dalton didn’t land on a team that could have developed his QB skills. He is a winner. He is a good QB. A potentially great QB. Think Bill Arians and Big Ben with the Steelers. Heck, think Payton and Eli with pop Archie! Now, think the “emperor has no clothes”, Jay Gruden!

  106. voyager6 says: Jan 6, 2014 11:49 AM

    Dalton is now the Ginger Pretender. He has become Carson Palmer II, a man who cannot be effective when there is ANY pressure on him. When the OLine is good, he is OK. But let him get hit a few times and he gets rattle-brained.

    Dalton has not progressed from his rookie season (actually, he as regressed). He was better in all aspects then. Pocket presence, running with the ball, and (perhaps because he and Gruden were new) was able to get the ball deep to Green more often.

    What I see needed is a new QB coach, because whatever he is teaching is making Dalton worse. Dalton desperately needs a coach that can teach him how to read defenses, call the proper audibles at the line and to quicken his decision making (since he is hanging onto the ball way too long).

  107. scoobies05 says: Jan 6, 2014 1:31 PM

    to say that the rahim moore play was luck is fair. to say that is all joe flacco did on the superbowl run is ignorance. you do realize that was not the superbowl, right?
    and to the good dr…here are some stats that matter
    joe flacco in the playoffs 9 and 4 and a ring
    andy dalton 0 and 3

  108. jtbsteeler says: Jan 6, 2014 5:00 PM

    Sorry to tell you this but the Ratbirds are trending DOWNWARDS!

    Suggs, Ngata are killing the cap and you can’t re-sign either Jones or Oher. Garbage lineup up top to bottom and the Steelers have a better oline.

    That speaks volumes.

    The Steelers should be favored to win the division next season.

  109. no1dman43troy says: Jan 8, 2014 2:07 PM

    Scoob,
    But if the Ravens don’t get completely lucky on the Moore play, there is no Superbowl run. So to say that the Superbowl was won on luck is completely fair. Let’s not forget the – jump ball Joe throw it up and hope for the best – play in the Superbowl where both deep men are flopping around, falling down, tripping over each other. Total luck, and if they don’t get that lucky td… They loose. Joe Flacco is not elite… Not even close. He’s not even in the top 10 in the league. He will not win another ring in my opinion. He will not get that lucky again.

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