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Is it time for the Bengals to move on from Dalton?

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Back in 2011, an unnamed coach told Peter King that one of quarterback Andy Dalton’s red flags was his red hair.

“Has there ever been a red-headed quarterback in the NFL who’s really done well?” the coach wondered. “It sounds idiotic, but is there any way that could be a factor?  We’ve wondered.”

In a league where teams are divided between those that have franchise quarterbacks and those that are looking for a franchise quarterback, the time for wondering about Dalton arguably has ended.  Based on his performance in three straight playoff losses, he’s not a franchise quarterback.

Franchise quarterbacks don’t throw two interceptions and lose a fumble and get beat by 17 points at home on a cold day in January against a West Coast team.

And so it could be time for the Bengals to look for a new quarterback, one who could become the team’s next Kenny Anderson or Boomer Esiason.  With options in free agency limited (and potentially expensive), the best alternative could be the draft.

This could be the year to do it.  Dalton’s contract applies for one more season at a very reasonable rate.  The Bengals could target another quarterback and let Dalton and the rookie battle it out in 2014.

Finances also could be a factor.  Franchise quarterbacks eventually will be paid that way, and there’s a benefit to the Bengals in having a guy who is good but not great.  Now that Dalton can be signed to a new contract, the Bengals could offer him a long-term deal premised on a trio of postseason failures, allowing them to keep their guy for a lot less than what the Ravens had to pay Joe Flacco only weeks after he won the Super Bowl MVP trophy.

That’s the factor that can’t be overlooked in Cincinnati, where it may be in the estimation of owner Mike Brown sufficient to simply be competitive.  Despite no playoff wins since January 1991, the Bengals continue to thrive financially.  For Brown and the Bengals, perhaps it’s good enough if the Bengals are simply good enough.

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119 Responses to “Is it time for the Bengals to move on from Dalton?”
  1. thepftpoet says: Jan 5, 2014 5:14 PM

    Andy Dalton = Christian Ponder 2.0

  2. floratiotime says: Jan 5, 2014 5:15 PM

    No way. He’s a big game choker, and that makes him perfect for the Bungles.

  3. thepftpoet says: Jan 5, 2014 5:16 PM

    Watch the Raiders give up a first rounder for him next year.

    LOL

  4. jakec4 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:18 PM

    I think they’re stuck. He’s good enough that it would be a crapshoot to try someone else, and he’s not good enough, yet, to ever win a big game. They’re going to wind up paying this guy 100 million dollars unless they paint the picture that he left on his own accord because he’s greedy. If Dalton goes to another team, lights it up, and the Bengals are stuck with whoever, they run a serious risk of further alienating a fanbase already close to the edge.

  5. nikeair497 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:19 PM

    so Peyton couldnt win a playoff game for a while… guess he’s not a franchise qb either? Drew Brees sure sucked in San DIAGGGOOOOOO (go anchorman) until his last year. You contradict yourself all the time.

  6. enochmh2 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:19 PM

    Only if the alternative is easily better

  7. jjrs89 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:19 PM

    “Franchise quarterbacks don’t throw two interceptions and lose a fumble and get beat by 17 points at home on a cold day in January against a West Coast team.”

    Really stretching there.

  8. lennydpocketqb says: Jan 5, 2014 5:20 PM

    “Franchise quarterbacks don’t throw two interceptions and lose a fumble and get beat by 17 points at home on a cold day in January against a West Coast team.”

    Spot on.

    Seems like the right time to at the very least do the homework. A lot of good QB’s coming out in the draft.

    At what point is it Lewis’ turn in the hot seat? He’s been the coach forever and a day. He has to take some of the blame for today’s game.

  9. fin72 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:22 PM

    I think Dalton is good enough to win it all… just not on his own. Give him a GREAT defense and running game and I think he’s as good as Flacco or thereabout.

  10. fearthehoody says: Jan 5, 2014 5:23 PM

    Easy answer, Yes!

  11. popcrowl says: Jan 5, 2014 5:24 PM

    Did we not once ask the same question about black QB’s a long time ago? I think that statement is plain stupid. His hair color has no effect on his ability. This is not a statement supporting him or opposing him as a player. You don’t judge a person by their hair color, skin color, or religious belief.

  12. meatcarroll says: Jan 5, 2014 5:24 PM

    Well with Mike Brown as their owner we can be certain Dalton won’t be given a $100 million contract on the bright side.

  13. shartlos says: Jan 5, 2014 5:24 PM

    No. He isn’t much but he’s shown he can ball. Give him a season or two to miss the playoffs and give up but as of right now he gives them the best chance. Unless you trade for some Franchise QB but that doesn’t happen often. Alex smith being the only exception, but nobody this year has two Franchise QB’s. And no rookie is going to step in and do better than Dalton.

  14. southernpatriots says: Jan 5, 2014 5:24 PM

    “For Brown and the Bengals, perhaps it is good enough if the Bengals are simply good enough.” You are a busy man Florio and it is because you are good. A great line. A good article. So many Bengal fans are getting that idea or already have it.

    The Bengals are relegated to being mediocre until they have a franchise type QB. These do not come down the NFL minor-league system (colleges and universities) every year, but this year they have a choice of more than one. This would be a good year to start.

  15. thebigwhitecat says: Jan 5, 2014 5:24 PM

    The Bears’ Cutler deal is looking pretty good. It’s a lousy free agent market.

  16. joetoronto says: Jan 5, 2014 5:26 PM

    I don’t understand why it’s taking so long for people to come around and see that this guy is a dud.

    He’s mentally soft and his arm is not NFL grade.

    They have to cut their losses and move on from him.

  17. cometkazie says: Jan 5, 2014 5:26 PM

    “Despite no playoff wins since January 1991, the Bengals continue to thrive financially. For Brown and the Bengals, perhaps it’s good enough if the Bengals are simply good enough.”

    It is a business, after all.

  18. dtlb58 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:28 PM

    I’d move on from Marvin Lewis first.

  19. thestrategyexpert says: Jan 5, 2014 5:28 PM

    Well yes, but I also strongly opposed the draft pick.

  20. The League's Crusade Against The Steelers Continues says: Jan 5, 2014 5:28 PM

    Kitna 2.0

  21. peymax1693 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:29 PM

    Dalton is a puzzle hidden in an enigma wrapped in a mystery. He has the physical ability to be a successful NFL QB but he also has the Romo/Cutler/Farve habit of making horrible decisions with his throws.

  22. daltongang1 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:29 PM

    I’ve been a Dalton supporter, but he just sucks in the big games… Not only do we need to draft another QB, it’s time to fire Marvin Lewis… He is not a winner..

  23. coltsreign says: Jan 5, 2014 5:30 PM

    We colts fans had the same issue peyton.
    Dont count dalton out

  24. Marv says: Jan 5, 2014 5:30 PM

    So you’re saying Peyton Manning is no franchise Quarterback?

  25. The League's Crusade Against The Steelers Continues says: Jan 5, 2014 5:30 PM

    1 TD, 6 INTs

    0-3

    What else do you need to know?

  26. gquesen says: Jan 5, 2014 5:30 PM

    Same problem as cowboys. Who is your quarterback going to be?

  27. mediasloppy says: Jan 5, 2014 5:31 PM

    The guy is a better QB than LOTS of teams have. Even Luck threw 3 interceptions yesterday. They were very lucky to win that game and had the help of KC losing player after player. Brett Favre has thrown interceptions at the most horrible times in his career. the grass is always greener… MN will swap him with Ponder.

  28. loyalraven says: Jan 5, 2014 5:32 PM

    The Bengals are the redheaded step child of the AFC North. Marvin Lewis is a joke and Andy Dalton is the punchline.

  29. schlippsguysnightout says: Jan 5, 2014 5:33 PM

    YES

  30. mobil4life says: Jan 5, 2014 5:33 PM

    Fire Marvin Lewis. He is the one who can’t win a playoff game.

  31. gatornevabeenaboutdat says: Jan 5, 2014 5:34 PM

    I sincerely appreciate the nudge about mike brown being financially successful while the Bengals are not.
    As a long time Bengals fan, I am asking for Marvin Lewis to become our GM. He’s terrible with game management however is good at socializing with players day in and out.
    I am asking to promote Mike Zimmer to Head Coach. This would finally allow our team to come out with some fire when it comes to big games.
    I am asking to promote Hue Jackson to Offensive Coordinator and allow him to continue to be a great coach and a positive asset to our team.
    I am asking to allow Jay Gruden to pursue other options wherever his tiny heart desires.
    Lastly, I agree that Andy will never be great due to having red hair, however I cannot say the same for all red headed folks as Christina Hendricks has proven to be worth her weight in gold.

  32. taintedsaints2009 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:34 PM

    Dalton is Ponder but with a decent arm and fewer injuries. Turnover machines. I would cut him immediately. he is terrible.

  33. djlexluger says: Jan 5, 2014 5:40 PM

    I think it’s time for Marvin to go 90-90-1 in 11 seasons.

  34. raz75reb says: Jan 5, 2014 5:42 PM

    Real question is should the Bengals move on from Marvin Lewis! I’d vote Yes.

  35. jhorton83 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:42 PM

    Um, shouldn’t Marvin Lewis get some of the blame too? He’s now 0-5 in the playoffs with some of those losses coming before Dalton was even there. He makes Marty Schottenheimer look like a good playoff coach.

  36. jollyrob68 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:45 PM

    Perhaps its time for a New Head Coach.

  37. cmiller282828 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:48 PM

    I’m sorry but this is an overreaction.. I understand dalton has sucked in the playoffs (which is inexcusable) but do you just throw out his success in the regular season? I mean he just broke single season records for yards and touchdowns in bengals history… It’s only his 3rd year and he has lead them to the playoffs all 3 years.. What if cam newton sucks it up next week? Will people be talking about getting a new quarterback because he hasn’t won a playoff game? No

  38. coltzfan166 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:48 PM

    Maybe he’s not a franchise QB but let’s be real, who are they gonna find that’s gonna lead them far in the playoffs?

  39. otistaylor89 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:51 PM

    Short answer – yep.

  40. TheNaturalMevs says: Jan 5, 2014 5:51 PM

    How’s he any less successful than jay cutler? Why does Cutler get a free pass? Or stafford? As long as those guys are being kept by their teams and extended I see nothing wrong with the Bengals doing the same with Dalton

  41. kylexitron says: Jan 5, 2014 5:53 PM

    Andy Dalton. The afc’s answer to Tony romo.

  42. peed1 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:54 PM

    Maybe San Diego was better today. Tampa Bay would take him in a heart beat. He is young. Elway and P. Manning could not win the big one for years. The Bills never won the big one and their quarterback was great.

  43. pats777 says: Jan 5, 2014 5:55 PM

    Trade him for Sanchez, straight up.

  44. dudermcrbohan says: Jan 5, 2014 5:58 PM

    so basically, since Flacco won a Superbowl last year, we can’t have this conversation about him anymore.

    Logically, the whole thing will now be regurgitated, switching Flacco for Dalton.

    great….

  45. labfan30 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:00 PM

    I always like this stuff. OK, you don’t believe Dalton is a franchise QB. (did anyone really think before today he was?) So we’ve got that out of the way. The question now is where do you rank him?

    The two current Bengals backups are older and less experienced than Dalton.

    So let’s look at the free agent market. Vick, Freeman, McCown, Henne. Any of those options look good? The draft? Yeah, the draft. Are you throwing a first round pick or giving up next years first round pick so you can draft a starter for next year? Russell Wilson type guys are the anomaly, not the norm. What assets are you willing to give up to get a top 10 QB? Or do you see a QB who you can get late in the first round that you think can start?

    The question when looking for a QB is NEVER are we going to move on from your QB. It’s who are you going to get who will be an upgrade?

    Sorry, but drafting your future QB in the 2014 draft and having Dalton play next year as a lame duck is not really gonna work out all that well for you as an organization unless you don’t care about your record next year.

  46. selldannysell says: Jan 5, 2014 6:02 PM

    Hall-of-Famer Sonny Jurgensen was a red-headed quarterback.

  47. kayakattack says: Jan 5, 2014 6:07 PM

    Help is not on the way

  48. bert1913 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:09 PM

    did the seahawks get lucky or what?

  49. realfootballfan says: Jan 5, 2014 6:09 PM

    Yes. He would have been fine in the pre-flag football version of the league, but in today’s NFL, he does not bring enough to the table in a league catered to quarterbacks. That Bengal team is stacked. They had significant injuries to probably their two best defensive players, and still won the division because that defense was still so good.

  50. jakec4 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:10 PM

    Dalton could easily start, and be an upgrade in:

    New York (Jets)
    Cleveland
    Tennessee
    Houston
    Jacksonville
    Oakland
    Minnesota
    Tampa Bay
    St. Louis

    I also think you could make a case for him in Arizona. These are only the teams not married to a QB. I’d say he’s better than a guy like Foles or Griffin at this point. Dalton isn’t a top ten guy, but he’s in the same ballpark as Stafford and Cutler. He’s also still really young. Be careful about wanting to run Dalton out of town. Plenty of other teams would take him in a minute.

  51. upperdecker19 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:14 PM

    1. Vick. 2. Mallett. 3. Tebow

  52. arwiv says: Jan 5, 2014 6:17 PM

    Lol….its impossible for Dalton to win the big one, and the bengals need to move on?? This is his THIRD year. Anyone ever hear of Eli Manning? Great Qb, no…..two time SB MVP, yeah.

    Dalton is pretty good, he was just horrible today.

    No, im not a bengals fan….just a Giants one who heard this same exact talk about Eli after he bombed out in his first couple of playoff tries.

  53. tmdill18 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:19 PM

    The answer is easy and clear. He lacks arm strength. That separates the run of the mill guys like Dalton from the guys who can successfully be your franchise QB. Now there are guys at the other end of the spectrum as well. They have arm strength,but lack the other required attributes (e.g. Jay Cutler).

  54. jerrahsucks says: Jan 5, 2014 6:19 PM

    Did we not once ask the same question about black QB’s a long time ago? I think that statement is plain stupid. His hair color has no effect on his ability. This is not a statement supporting him or opposing him as a player. You don’t judge a person by their hair color, skin color, or religious belief.

    Yet, everybody still judges Tim Tebow because of his religious beliefs. He won 2 National Championships, a Heisman trophy, and a playoff game, none of these things Peyton Manning has done. And I love Peyton. Just saying.

  55. beelza says: Jan 5, 2014 6:22 PM

    Deeetroit Lionesses would luv to have 3 playoff loses.

  56. charlesorth1991 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:22 PM

    I’m saying this as a Steelers fan, but it’s too early to give up on Dalton. He’s made the playoffs in his first three seasons; I’m sure the Browns, Jaguars, and Raiders would love to have that.

  57. agc99 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:23 PM

    The redskins might give up a couple first round picks for him. He would be an upgrade for them and Aalto of other teams. Just don’t expect him to be a franchise QB.

  58. cannonballdookie says: Jan 5, 2014 6:24 PM

    He’s inconsistent and sucks in playoffs but he’s improved each year and you won’t find anyone better. Meanwhile loser Cutler got 100m and can’t even stay healthy or win in the regular season.
    The bengals need to go out and get a player or two to put them over the edge instead of just draft picks, though they can draft very well. Losing a top 5 defensive player in Geno Atkins was a crushing blow as well.

  59. docboss says: Jan 5, 2014 6:31 PM

    I would not put STL/Bradford on the list of sites where Andy would be an upgrade. Bengals are “stacked” with talent. STL not. I’m sure the Rams would rather have Andy’s contract. Calm down Bengal fans. Draft a QB in the third round. Your management is not moving Andy or Marvin. Would you rather be in Washington, Cleveland or Dallas?

  60. balzer41 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:35 PM

    Reading through the comments, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Lewis should be fired. I said he should have been fired yrs. ago.. I’m not a Bengals fan but I know several people who are and I feel sorry for them. Terrible Owner that keeps holding onto a terrible coach and will keep a terrible playoff QB.

  61. 12strikes says: Jan 5, 2014 6:35 PM

    Move on from Dalton?…..Dalton?

    Seems like that team was losing playoff game long before he got there

    The problem is Marvin Lewis. He has done all he can. He is clueless on how to take a team to the next level.

    He only sticks around because he does not buck management.

  62. stoptrippn says: Jan 5, 2014 6:38 PM

    Zimmer so called great defense sucks without mays, hall and geno…just sayin

  63. drewzducks says: Jan 5, 2014 6:39 PM

    Akili Smith has as many playoff wins as Andy Dalton.

  64. kst2074 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:39 PM

    Marvin Lewis needs to go, not Dalton

  65. natijim235 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:39 PM

    maybe bengals can make package deal with browns for jay gruden AND andy dalton

  66. laxer37 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:41 PM

    Dalton is a smart kid and a good athlete, but he lacks the arm strength to be a top QB in this league. If the Bengals had a scouting department worth a crap they could have avoided this.

  67. vbe2 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:41 PM

    It’s time for them to move on from Marvin Lewis. 90-90-1 with 0-5 in the playoffs.

    FAILURE

  68. njsteeler says: Jan 5, 2014 6:43 PM

    Young, fast team with another 1st round exit from the playoffs. Lol…

  69. javie365 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:44 PM

    Sorry to say but the Bengals were overrated ok. Only reason why the went to the playoffs was because pittsburgh started off 0-4 due to a lot of key injuries and a new offensive cordinator, with the offensive line hurt too. Despite the bad start, they should have been in the playoffs regardless. San Diego Lost to KC and to 2nd and 3rd strings. The kicker missed the winning field goal, and the chargers and too many guys on the righr side of the kick on the line, and in overtime, they got the ball stripped in overtime and the ran it to the endzone. Horrible missed calls by the “Professional Refs” that play should have been reviewed, it was close enough and the coaches had no challenges because close plays were gonna be reviewed.
    SAN DIEGO DID NOT DESERVE TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS , SHOULD HAVE BEEN PITTSBURGH OR BALTIMORE.
    On the QB siruation. Do not judge quarterbacks by their hair color or skin color. He did well this season and last. He just chocked in the playoffs, how many quarterbacks don’t? They are under a lot of pressure. One thing he shouldn’t be soing is demanding too much money. He needs to prove himself. If not sign a good rookie and show hin that he can be beat out anytime. Look at Tom Brady, Drew Brees , and Big Ben. They earned their spots. He needs to earn his spot light and money.

  70. morr24 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:45 PM

    Finances will always be the preeminent (some would say only)factor for Mike Brown. I am thankful that I am not a Bengals fan.

    One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Things will not change in Cincinnati until Brown is no longer in charge. Until then, insanityy will rule the day.

  71. morr24 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:46 PM

    Finances will always be the preeminent (some would say only)factor for Mike Brown. I am thankful that I am not a Bengals fan.

    One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Things will not change in Cincinnati until Brown is no longer in charge. Until then, insanity will rule the day.

  72. eddiegabriel2013 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:46 PM

    new quarterback?

    what about new head coach

  73. realskipbayless says: Jan 5, 2014 6:49 PM

    Don’t even think about getting Vick. We get him I will not root for my Bengals till he’s gone. Stick with Andy for a couple more years or so and see how things play out. WHO DEY

  74. marcinhouston says: Jan 5, 2014 6:52 PM

    Matt Ryan is worse in the playoffs. I don’t think Dalton has been shut out while throwing to two all-pro receivers and an all-pro tight end.

  75. MichaelEdits says: Jan 5, 2014 6:55 PM

    Only a ginger can call another ginger “ginger.”

  76. vottorific says: Jan 5, 2014 6:55 PM

    Does anyone else wonder if Daltons teamates have lost faith in him?

  77. mclovinib says: Jan 5, 2014 6:56 PM

    saw a post above comparing dalton to flacco…big diff is flacco’s ravens won playoff games each time they made it. plus, he was within a dropped lee evans pass from going back to back. dalton seems to have some premium weapons at his disposal in green, bernard and the big tightend eifert. so, while i agree who are you going to find available who is better, you sure would like to see better performances in the playoffs…being a raven fan, i almost feel sorry for the big red head, but nah….

  78. jackburton77 says: Jan 5, 2014 6:57 PM

    Maybe he could go bounce at the dabbble deuce with Garrett.

    Two gingery souls.

  79. flyerincowtown says: Jan 5, 2014 7:00 PM

    I am leaning more to some more tools needed and possibly a new HC. As for the QB, you people calling for a new one need your heads examined. Here is a list of why Dalton is not the issue: Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson, all sure fire franchise QBs right.

  80. cdwains says: Jan 5, 2014 7:03 PM

    Andy Dalton = John Kitna with more and better offensive talent around him. I think the ideal scenario would be to try and trade Dalton, but it seems that the only real option would be to keep him around one more year and then bring in a rookie QB for Andy to compete with. Would love to see Jonny Football but thats a pipe dream.

  81. realskipbayless says: Jan 5, 2014 7:05 PM

    javie365 says:
    Jan 5, 2014 6:44 PM
    Sorry to say but the Bengals were overrated ok. Only reason why the went to the playoffs was because pittsburgh started off 0-4 due to a lot of key injuries and a new offensive cordinator, with the offensive line hurt too…

    Bengals earned their spot by having the best record in the division. Sorry the Steelers and ravens didn’t have enough wins to get in. It was just unfortunate that bad Andy showed up today. O well maybe next year.

  82. steelcurtainn says: Jan 5, 2014 7:09 PM

    DaltONE and done!!!!!!!!

  83. shaunypoo says: Jan 5, 2014 7:11 PM

    I am all for giving him the last year of his contract to prove himself. Draft a guy in the mid rounds, bring in a veteran to give him some competition, and let him earn a second contract. Even if he won the super bowl he wouldn’t get Flacco money.

    Now for the next problem, what to do about Marvin.

  84. iamhoraceknight says: Jan 5, 2014 7:12 PM

    Plain and Simple. YES.

  85. football1932 says: Jan 5, 2014 7:18 PM

    yes.

  86. nsideindy says: Jan 5, 2014 7:18 PM

    You sound like the people who wanted to get rid of Peyton Manning early in his career. You do realize that this is only his 3rd season…right??? Interceptions are part of what happens with a young QB (see every other young QB that has ever played). You act like he won’t get better.

  87. colv says: Jan 5, 2014 7:19 PM

    Mike it sounds like you are saying they are happy with the Statuesque . Mike Brown and his team are financially happy and it’s OK NOT to win a playoff game since 91, a whole generation of fans. As an NFL expert I guess you know the fans too, that this is acceptable to them to have an owner making money off of them and not caring to win a SuperBowl, making the playoffs and one and done is OK. I guess I don’t understand the logic of this article. Is Mike saying Dalton is not a franchise QB or is he saying the owner and major decision maker is content in losing after a seemingly another good year and many good years in the past.

    Also a team that rallies around the NO RESPECT FLAG in the tunnel prior to a playoff game, usually don’t deserve respect and fail in the end. They should rally around themselves as players, teammates, being winners and its fan base. The Bengals leadership failed this team by not making the team respect themselves before worrying about the rest of the league, other fans and reporters so called non-respect of them. The Ravens have been the most non-respected five years of successful playoff runs capped with a Super Bowl last year. They and its fans after the first two years under Harbaugh understood that respect from the league was not an issue. Respect came from within and that’s all that’s needed and they won a SB.

  88. t8ertot says: Jan 5, 2014 7:19 PM

    Andy and Marvin Lewis need to go

  89. wishingtonredslur says: Jan 5, 2014 7:20 PM

    Three playoff berths in his first three years? Not that bad.

  90. allidoiswin55 says: Jan 5, 2014 7:20 PM

    Literally a week or two ago stupid bengals fans were talking crap bc Russell Wilson had a couple off games against 2 top 4 defenses . Proclaiming Dalton as the next young qb .. He may be but since he’s to stupid to read defenses and just happens to be lucky and have superior wrs he’s looking like a buster …

    He lost that game for his team his defense held most turnovers into FGs..I don’t get why this team can’t win in the post season their built for success…

  91. wishingtonredslur says: Jan 5, 2014 7:21 PM

    Heck if the Bengals win the SuperBowl that record makes him better than Aaron Rodgers.

  92. duncanisland says: Jan 5, 2014 7:22 PM

    I’m sure Brandon Weeden is available… for nothing!

  93. billsfan1 says: Jan 5, 2014 7:26 PM

    Marvin Lewis may be the most average coach in history. I just dont think the owners want to look for a new coach. He has done nothing to warrant his longevity….he has had some good seasons but 89-85-1 and 0-5 in playoffs is not worthy of keeping his job…

  94. screamingsheep69 says: Jan 5, 2014 7:31 PM

    I had a thought while watching the game.
    Andy Dalton=Jake Delhomme

  95. northsidesteel says: Jan 5, 2014 7:32 PM

    I pay a lot of attention to the Bengals as they are part of the AFC North. I think we need to take the long view. While there has not been a change in ownership, these are not your father’s Bengals. Since Mike Brown out lasted Carson Palmer and the rest of the NFL in the chicken game Palmer forced when he refused to play in Cincy, the front office has made good choice after choice. Dalton included. He has proven to have been the best selection at that point in the draft. Certainly Dalton isn’t an elite QB, thought that is the only piece of the puzzle Cincy lacks.. Lets see what happens in the off season.

  96. billsboy88 says: Jan 5, 2014 7:33 PM

    Every nfl team thrives financially, regardless of record, attendance, etc. don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

  97. pzachz says: Jan 5, 2014 7:50 PM

    Dear PFT,

    I have followed your site for 8yrs now and I live the candor with which you write articles. However, I’m disappointed to see that you’ve stooped low enough to write an article implying that a red headed QB isn’t worthy of being a franchise QB. While you did not make the statement yourself, the fact that you quoted some idiot who did and based your article around that quote reflects badly on your integrity. Andy Dalton has his flaws and he certainly did not not play like a franchise QB today, but his hair color has nothing to do with it.

  98. larrydavid7000 says: Jan 5, 2014 7:52 PM

    People the HC is the problem and needs to go. How he is still a HC is be on me.

  99. montrealraider says: Jan 5, 2014 8:01 PM

    I want to know what to call a QB who can throw around 30 tds a year, win much more games then he loses and take his team consistently to the playoffs.

    If they want to move on from him they better be sure in the guy they bring in.

  100. dispozblcopy says: Jan 5, 2014 8:02 PM

    Whoever the unnamed coach was — ever hear of Sonny Jurgensen, one of the best pure passers to ever play (albeit not for championship teams)? Super-ginger.

    Five time pro-bowler, five time all pro, NFL 1960s all decade team, three nfl passing crowns.

    Hall of Fame. The Dan Marino/Fouts of his era.

  101. photoshootfresh says: Jan 5, 2014 8:21 PM

    COOPER MANNING HAS RED HAIR

  102. haytammy says: Jan 5, 2014 8:44 PM

    Jeff Garcia, Sammy Baugh, sonny jurgensen

  103. qckappa says: Jan 5, 2014 9:02 PM

    His hair color??? How ridiculous! That goes to show how closed minded some people in the NFL can be. Maybe it is time to upgrade the qb or at least try to. I wonder for all you Bengal fans that don’t like Marvin Lewis, if you remember how irrelevant the Bengals were before he came. He did win the division. I think its been a long time since the Bengals were relevant before Lewis, 1990 to be exact. So yeah, he’s the problem, also btw, the Bengals have been in the playoffs the last 4 out of 5 years. Yeah, fire that guy, he will definitely get a raise somewhere very shortly!

  104. footballchic777 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:16 PM

    First of all, this red hair question is just idiotic! Here are the facts! It sucks to lose! But to blame it all on Dalton is a farce. How about Gio losing the fumble on a perfectly thrown pass? Or the great AJ Green dropping a perfect pass, which has happened too often this year.
    Here are the facts:

    *Dalton was drafted 3 yrs ago….35th.
    In the 1st round was 1. Cam Newton, 8. Jake Locker, 10. Blaine Gabbert, and 12. Christian Ponder. Between those 4 qbs, they have the possibility of 12 playoff appearances: THEY HAVE 2. Ponder had one last year and Cam has 1 this year.

    *Dalton has 3 in a row…..a Bengals record and the 5th best all time in the NFL. Sam Bradford, drafted 1 the year before Dalton, with a $78 million dollar contract has ZERO. Peyton Manning did not make the playoffs his first year and it took him 5 years to win his first playoff game.

    *Andy Dalton has thrown 49 interceptions in his first 3 years, Peyton Manning threw 58 in his first 3 years.

    *Cam Newtons contract…$22 million fully guaranteed. Andy Dalton, $5 mil. Carson Palmer, our #1 draft pick, Heisman trophy winning QB, led us to 2 playoff games. His rookie contract was for 49 mil which 4 years later was given a 10 yr extension for $122 million.

    *Dalton not only holds the record for the only Bengals QB to lead them to 3 straight playoffs, he also holds the following records for Bengals qbs:

    Passing record : 4296 yds./single season
    TDs: 33/season

    Yes, it still sucks to lose, but he has shown growth this year, and the stats do prove out.

  105. bjames65 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:26 PM

    Yes, they should trade him for a first round pick. They will not win any playoff games with him. They have a Super Bowl type team with the QB being the missing link.

  106. joetoronto says: Jan 5, 2014 9:36 PM

    wishingtonredslur says:
    Jan 5, 2014 7:20 PM
    Three playoff berths in his first three years? Not that bad.
    **********************************************
    If that’s what your goal is then yes.

    If your goal is the same as all 32 teams, then not winning the Super Bowl is a failure.

    You go ahead though and keep lowering the bar.

  107. sfm073 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:42 PM

    Hey genius, how many franchise quarterbacks are there, 3 or 4 in the nfl? If you can ever upgrade at a position you should, but andy dalton isn’t the reason the Cincy has lost in the playoffs.

  108. bdeviled11 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:45 PM

    This is just downright silly. Why did Cincy throw the ball 51 TIMES in those weather conditions? Also what is the difference in Dalton and Romo? One playoff win…and 8 years experience. The Bengals need a Marshawn Lynch type running back to control the clock and wear defenses down. They also need a definite adjustment in offensive play calling.

    BTW Zimmer’s vaunted defense? That group generated NO turnovers, zero passes defensed, and 1 tackle for loss.

    People need to simmer down for a couple of days and look at things a bit more rationally.

    Andy Dalton is NOT the problem in Cincinnati. Not by a long shot. It’s what is being asked of him that is the problem.

  109. raiderapologist says: Jan 5, 2014 9:46 PM

    nsideindy says: Jan 5, 2014 7:18 PM

    You sound like the people who wanted to get rid of Peyton Manning early in his career. You do realize that this is only his 3rd season…right??? Interceptions are part of what happens with a young QB (see every other young QB that has ever played). You act like he won’t get better.
    ———–
    He doesn’t get better. It’s not just the picks. Luck tossed some picks, but fought back and made some plays. Dalton just doesn’t make positive plays when his number is called. He throws another pick, fails to read a blitz, or fumbles while not being touched. He’s a weak link on a good team, and at his position, that’s deadly.

  110. footballchic777 says: Jan 5, 2014 9:57 PM

    First if all, this red hair question is just idiotic! Here are the facts: I STINKS TO LOSE! But, to blame it all on Dalton is a farce? How about Gio fumbling on a perfectly thrown pass at the goal line? Or AJ dropping a perfectly thrown strike at the goal line? Or the total lack of any protection by the O line? The following is the statistical facts:

    Andy Dalton was drafted 3 years ago. 35th overall. There were 4 QBs taken ahead of him:
    1. Cam Newton
    8. Jake Locker
    10. Blaine Gabbert
    12. Christian Ponder
    These 4 could have been to the playoffs 12 times between them…they have been 2 times. Christian Ponder went last year, and Cam is going to his first year this year.

    *Dalton has 3 playoffs in a row. That is a Bengals record. I is also the 5th best record in the NFL. Sam Bradford, drafted 1st the year before Dalton, with a $78 million dollar rookie contract, has been to ZERO. Peyton Manning did not make the playoffs his first year, AND it took him 5 years to win his first playoff game. Peyton also threw 58 interceptions in his first 3 years, Andy Dalton, 49.

    *Cam Newtons rookie contract….$22 mil fully guaranteed. Andy Dalton’s was just over $5 mil. Carson Palmer, drafted #1, and also a Heisman trophy winner, took us to the playoffs 2 times, in 8 years. 2005 and 2009. His rookie contract was $49 mil, with later a 10 year extension worth $122 mil.

    *Dalton not only holds the record for the only Bengals QB to lead them to 3 straight playoffs, he also holds the following records:

    Passing Record: 4296 yds/single season
    TDs : 33/single season

    Yes, it stinks to lose. But, Dalton has shown growth this year, and the stats do prove out.

  111. joestrummerlives says: Jan 5, 2014 10:15 PM

    “Has there ever been a red-headed quarterback in the NFL who’s really done well?”

    That is perhaps the DUMBEST thing I have ever read on this site, which is really saying something.

    -Sonny Jurgensen

  112. kappy32 says: Jan 5, 2014 10:18 PM

    You’re right that franchise QBs don’t throw 2 picks in a game like today’s, but franchise WRs also don’t drop passes placed right in their hands from 40 yards out as AJ Green did in the 4th quarter, down 10. The 2013 Bengals weren’t necessarily world-beaters, here; they were, by far, the worst of the 4 AFC division winners. So what if they won today? They weren’t winning a Super Bowl this year & there was a very high probability that they were going home next week in embarrassing fashion. In light of all of this, I’m not sure it’s time to move on from Dalton. I definitely think that his playoff struggles have gotten in his head & were a big reason why he was so bad today, but NFL history is filled with good QBs who couldn’t get the proverbial playoff monkey off their backs. There was Bengal “great” Boomer Esiason; Dan Marino struggled in the playoffs; and it took John Elway a long time to get past his playoff struggles. Now, I don’t think Dalton is as good as any of those aforementioned QBs were, but I do think that Dalton is better than Joe Flacvo is (Flacco is the most overrated QB in the NFL today). Nevertheless, it can’t hurt picking up a young, talented QB to push Dalton next season. If Dalton fails again next year, you can have a new QB to put in for 2015. If the competition pushes Dalton to get past his playoff woes, then you have an attractive trade piece in a young, talented QB. We’ll see.

  113. gammynomnom says: Jan 5, 2014 10:46 PM

    Troy Aikman 1st three years in the NFL 31 tds , 46 ints, did not sniff the playoffs to suck in them. 14-24 as a starter.

  114. flavadave10 says: Jan 6, 2014 6:10 AM

    Everybody saying he needs more weapons- He has AJ Green, Tyler Eifert, Marvin Jones, a very good offensive line, and Bernard. A lackluster performance in the playoffs is simply inexcusable with those weapons.

  115. deathonwings410 says: Jan 6, 2014 7:02 AM

    Andy Romo, lol! It was the Bengals year with the Ravens and Steelers in rebuilding/retooling mode and the Browns being the Browns, but I have a feeling they’re gonna regress down to third/fourth place next year a la the Texans.

  116. tendigitpoet says: Jan 6, 2014 8:12 AM

    The last #14 who suited up for Cincy took three tries to win a playoff game. By that time, he also had three (of eventually four) passing titles in a 16-year career that has some folks arguing that he should be in the Hall of Fame. It’s also worth noting that Ken Anderson’s first playoff win came in his 11th season; Dalton has three appearances in three years.

    Maybe the Bengals need a better QBs coach.

  117. troy43mvp says: Jan 6, 2014 8:31 AM

    LOL Comparing Aikman to Dalton!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  118. calvinisthobbesian says: Jan 6, 2014 9:18 AM

    Payton Manning lost his first three playoff games.He threw one td, two picks and had a QBR of 58.It’s too soon to throw Dalton under the bus.Maybe after next year, but not now.

  119. mogogo1 says: Jan 6, 2014 11:25 AM

    The fumble is the enduring image. Anybody can throw an interception or two but diving untouched and coughing it up is inexcusable. (And made all the worse by the fact he misjudged the dive so he STILL wasn’t going to have the first down even if he hadn’t fumbled.)

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