Peyton is insulted when reporter asks if he’s embarrassed

AP

Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning did not have a good game in Super Bowl XLVIII. But he took issue with a suggestion that he had an embarrassing game.

Manning became visibly annoyed when he was asked by a reporter if he felt that the Broncos put on an embarrassing performance. Manning answered the question by saying he thinks putting it that way is an insult to himself and his teammates.

“We put in a lot of hard work and effort,” Manning said. “The word ’embarrassing,’ I think, is an insulting word.”

Some day, when Manning looks back on his 2013 season, he’ll have a lot to be proud of. But while he may not be embarrassed when he looks back at this Super Bowl, he won’t be pleased, either. On this day, a great quarterback was beaten badly by a great defense.

289 responses to “Peyton is insulted when reporter asks if he’s embarrassed

  1. I thought it was insulting when Peyton said that Seattle was the better team “tonight”.

    I did NOT like the choice of “tonight”. Sorry Peyton, but “tonight” is the only night that matters, and even if you played them every day for a year over 365 nights, I say Seattle is still the better team.

    Seattle was (or is) the better team, period there, no “tonight” necessary. All that does is insult Seattle and imply that you think you still have the better team. You don’t.

  2. Maybe if Denver could actually stay healthy next year then they will have a better chance at winning the Super Bowl… Just saying.

  3. I don’t think he’s embarrassed. However I do think all the clueless morons who thought Manning would just walk right in their and have the trophy handed to him ought to be…

  4. I really don’t think Peyton has to be embarrassed.
    Seattle plays a perfect defensive game, special teams was lights out and the offense made the plays especially on 3rd down. That’s the way it has been for Seahawks all season but for some reason everyone was expecting this offensive masterpiece.

  5. He definitely should be embarrassed about his overall post season performance throughout his career. He is lucky that he faced one of the weakest Super Bowl teams in history when he faced Chicago to get that one Super Bowl win

  6. What a crappy thing to ask. The press is ridiculous. How about, they got outplayed. That isn’t embarrassing. It just happens.

  7. It WAS embarrassing. The “GREATEST OFFENSE OF ALL TIME OMG 600 POINTS!!” that we had shoved down our throats leading up to this game got completely NEUTERED by the Seahawks.

  8. Shame on anyone whose uplifted by the failings of another, especially someone that works as hard as Peyton works.

  9. It was a boring game fueled by a boring performance, i can safely say i showed up better at my pick up soccer game than the entire Broncos team. Good question.

  10. i’m enjoying the donkey’s collapse as much as anyone, but that is a stupid and insulting question. there’s nothing embarrassing about being dominated by the best defense in the game. he still managed to put up almost 300 yards. it was a poor performance for sure, but asking him if it was an embarrassing one is stretching it.

  11. No knock on Manning, but since it was a great Seattle defense that won the game, how much worse could the Broncos have possibly done with Tebow under center?

  12. As I wrote when Wade Philips (and MANY others) said, “Manning is having the best season for a QB in NFL history”

    — You don’t judge a season until it’s over.

    I think Montana, Aikman, Brady, Bradshaw, Staubach etc. will all take their respective Super Bowl winning seasons rather than throwing 55 TD passes and then scoring 8 points in the SB.

    Period.

  13. His legacy is in tact. Going to 3 Superbowls is hard enough without having the benefit is stolen signals.

  14. Peyton Manning, as well as the rest of the Denver Broncos, may not say that their performance was “embarrassing,” but they know it was. Especially on offense. They had, statistically speaking, the greatest season for an offense, and a quarterback, in the history of the NFL. Yet, Manning and the Broncos offense mustered a measly eight points. Eight points. After averaging more than 36 points per game in 16 regular season games and two postseason games, they scored eight points in the biggest game of the year. Though the Broncos defense and special teams have their fair share of blame for the Super Bowl loss, and the Seahawks should be commended for their dominating performance overall, these Broncos should be embarrassed by theirs. Particularly this offense.

  15. I was insulted that he kept throwing junk like 3 yard outs and 4 yard slants when his team was down by 5 touchdowns…..but he did get the Superbowl records for completions. Pure gutless garbage. He was so afraid to throw another pick six, he was mister checkdown all because he didn’t want to look any worse than he did.

  16. I’m not a Broncos fan but I’m gonna make a few excuses here. Peyton isn’t at fault here, the Broncos D didn’t stop the hawks at all and they pretty much let Percy Harvin run down the field on that kick return. The bad snap safety wasn’t his fault either. He did have a bad game, but he was never really in a position to succeed thanks to his team.

  17. 2 INTS and a fumble by Manning.

    Only scoring 8 points with allegedly the best offence ever in the history of the NFL.

    Whether the Broncos were embarrassing, or the Seahawks embarrassed them…

    The only real question is one of semantics.

  18. Peyton Manning can not win when it matters, therefor he is not a great Quarterback. Great players win when it matters. TRENT DILFER HAS JUST AS MANY RINGS AS PEYTON MANNING!

  19. He should be embarrassed. The reason the Broncos are even in the SB is because of Peyton and the offense. Seattle rode the best defense to the SB. They showed up. Peyton is supposedly the architect of his great offense and he laid an egg from the start. Give Seattle their due credit but Peyton folded like a cheap lawn chair in their biggest and toughest game of the season. Once he realized it wasnt going to come easy he looked like he wanted no part of it.

  20. He needs to people to get open because he lacks arm strength. They couldn’t and they lost. Period.

    Testament to the GM for having that much talent on one side of the ball.

  21. The worst pass manning threw was when he over threw Thomas for the first interception. Other than that, he was not horrible. The O-line could not protect him at all. The second int will count against him, but Moreno should get half the credit for just looking at the ball and not coming back for it, to at the very lease attempt to knock it down..So instead of it being 3rd down, Smith comes up for it and makes the score 22-0. To suggest that the QB (single player) was beaten by a great defense (team) is as Manning would say…insulting.

  22. Obviously not enough work. It wasn’t a competitive game at all.

    You’re lucky you didn’t get shut out, Manning.

    I think embarrassing is the right word.

  23. I’m a seahawks fan but I think most will agree that Peyton is a great quarterback. It just proves, though, that it takes everyone on both offense and defense to play their best to win a Super Bowl… a full team effort.

  24. Sorry, but I’m not sure what he really could have done. He had 15 incomplete passes. On many of those he was hit while he was throwing, getting the ball tipped at the line of scrimmage, or trying to avoid a linemans hands being thrown in his face.

    Once his WR’s caught the ball, there were 3 guys on them immediately. I swear it felt like Seattle was playing with 12 or 13 guys on defense out there. I’m not sure what a “great” and “clutch” qb would have done in that situation? They’ve pretty much shut down every QB they’ve played this year. Amazing defense… I was completely impressed.

  25. Broncos haven’t won a SB since the NFL busted them for CapGate. And Peyton should be embarrassed. He’s a choker. I’ve been telling Denver fans this for 2 years. They’re finally starting to get it. Truth hurts.

  26. He should be embarrassed after a 3 turnover night that saw him throw yet another Super Bowl pick-6.

    The Denver Broncos were not even competitive tonight. That falls on Manning. Down 15-0 and with 3 and a half minutes left to go in the first half, Manning tried to do too much. Seattle dominated this title game but it was a remarkably close game until the pick-6. Then Seattle got the dreaded ‘end-of-half-start-of half’ 14 points swing and the game was over.

    Say what you will about Tom Brady, but in each of his Super Bowl losses he willed his team to late 4th quarter touchdown drives and leads. Too bad Belichick doesn’t build a defense like he use to.

  27. Peyton threw just as many Touchdowns to the Seahawks tonight as he did to his own team. What is this legacy you speak of?

  28. The truth hurts. Can’t blame Peyton for being “insulted” minutes after getting his ass handed to him and the Favored Broncos.

    I imagine Brady felt the same way when he went 18-1.

    Defenses wins Championships. But make sure fans complain that Belichicks re-signs Welker, Lloyd and Ocho Cinco.

    Great defense is the name of the game….to look at Brady’s 3 Super Bowl rings.

  29. Peyton Manning and his playoff record as a whole is embarrassing, the media and “so called” football experts have made him a darling, giving him 2 MVP’s that he did not deserve at all.

  30. The entire team should be embarrassed. It was a complete debacle of a performance. Denver didn’t look like they were even ready for the game and just played intimidated. Weak performance all around. Fox looks like a terrible coach who is riding his offense’s coattails; he should have had his team more prepared than what we saw today.

  31. The Broncos have no heart and they showed it tonight. You knew they were in trouble when Champ Bailey told them to make this game “Bigger than them” What terrible advice.

  32. A truly great player – He and his teammates had a great season but were totally outclassed on the day. I am sure he’s disappointed in the result but they tried hard and lost. It wasn’t their day. Embarrassment is the wrong word. There is no disgrace in competing and losing, there is only disgrace in not trying.
    The reporter should show some respect for the effort expended by one of the greatest QBs to play the game.

  33. On this day a great QB had a fairly bad game, missing open receivers fairly frequently. His WRs didn’t help much. Why Demaryius Thomas picked this game to run away from first downs to try to get yardage is a mystery. There were so many mistakes that the Broncos fans I watched with were shaking their heads before Q1 was over.

  34. It was hard to watch reminded me of Greg Norman melting down on Sunday in the 1996 Masters / lot of weak throws off “happy feet” -never say that out of Marino or Montana

  35. Leave Mr. Manning alone….you sportswriters are always last in performance. It’s your role to report the facts. . Noone gives a rip about your Opinion. ..simply because everyone has one and last time I checked, no sportswriters has won a SB…..OR any awards that means jack to any fans!

  36. Elway brought this on the Broncos when he treated baby Jesus Tebow as he did. God forgives, but doesn’t forget.
    He just reminded you today, who the real savoir is, and it wasn’t Manning. Karma was going to happen, God made sure the whole world saw it.

  37. I was rooting for you Peyton but that game was beyond embarrassing. Who cares how much time was spent or how hard of work was put into it. Thats embarrassing. I’m kinda happy the Bengals didn’t some how make it in to the superbowl because we woulda gotten our butts whooped.

  38. It looked like the Broncos showed up 20 minutes before kick off with no game plan. John Elway is a God in Denver but he and his staff have some questions to answer. From all his higher ups being in the news for all the wrong reasons in the preseason, to botcbung the Dummerville contract (especially egregious since they knew Miller was one slip from banishment), to standing pat at the trade deadline. There was virtually no pressure on Wilson in this game and Denver’s defense looked completely inept. Elway is a legend, and deserves a statue and highest honors for what he accomplished as a player, but he is not a good GM.

  39. What do you expect? Football games can be won on different days by different teams. Give him some space

  40. On this day a horrid D gave their team no chance to win. Even if Manning had a great day, they still lose because the Broncos D was garbage.

    Oh and Champ Bailey was exposed as a weak link.

  41. As we say in my country of France, S’appellez un chat, un chat which translates to lets call a cat a cat. The truth is the Denver performance was embarrassing and I am a Denver fan for almost 40 years.

  42. maybe peyton doesn’t think its embarrassing to get molested in front of the world…. full congratz to the seahawks

  43. When a supposedly great Qb throws a pick with his eyes clenched shut because he was afraid of contact, he SHOULD be embarrassed. Well, at least he didn’t go fetal as usual.

    The rest of the team can carry you only so many games, pouty peyton.

  44. I hate that you put a great ” Quarterback” was beaten . Such a desire in the media to make it all about the best player for sensationalism when the truth is the Broncos were beaten, not just Manning. It’s like saying Manning isn’t the greatest now because he lost tonight. Manning didn’t lose, the Bronicos did. Manning didn’t get best on the line or fumble the ball or fail to stop a kick return, among others. People wanna anoint the greatest on games won instead of personal performance and skillset. Lame, fable making drama at best is what the attempt is. It’s a team sport. Otherwise Trent solder is a better Qb than Marino. Smh.

  45. The NCAA should be more embarrassed. In the mid-2000s, Pete Carroll paid guys illegally to play at USC, then hit the road when he was all but busted, leaving innocent players to pay for his crime. Meanwhile, he was rewarded for it with an NFL job and now a Super Bowl ring. The NCAA never even fined him.

  46. Boy – Peyton just can’t stop the mistakes even after the game.
    Embarrassing is a perfect word to describe his, primarily, and next his teams performance.
    If he isn’t, well then.
    Maybe the feeling that he can’t perform well in big games holds more truth than either he or his supporters are willing to admit.

  47. I have no dog in this fight, but I did watch the SB! Hey peyton, wow, you have teammates?? They’re never mentioned…you never bothered to share the stage with any of them, while you padded your personal stats all year. You were embarrassed in front of a world-wide audience tonight, so that’s when you include your teammates? Nope, this is all on you, you got ALL the glory, now you can take the blame. You just can’t seal the deal in the big games you play. Personal stats are for losers, and embarrassed is exactly what you are.

  48. Manning is the best of all time in my opinion.

    With that said, neither he nor ANYONE on the Broncos played good tonight. The Seahawks dominated in every aspect. I don’t care who was playing QB for Denver tonight, they would not have won regardless. Congrats to Seattle.

  49. D .thomas’s family were in need of a coke line after that uneventful game by the #1 offense lol Brady for MVP at least he didn’t flop with a stacked ass offense . Go hawks

  50. Peyton could have thrown for 300 3 tds and no turnovers and Seattle still would have won comfortably. Seattle was just better than everyone this year, a definitive champion unlike the Joe Flukos of the world. Denver played their worst game, Seattle played their best game the result reflects it. Everytime someone loses in sports nowadays all we do is knock the loser instead of acknowledging the splendor of the winner. Stop it. Lets enjoy Seattle if they would have beaten anyone this year, why knock on Peyton for losing? According to you guys he was supposed to lose…

  51. It was a stupid question and I don’t blame him. The press loves shows of emotion and while Peyton is unflappable; however, he responded honestly. How would that reporter feel if Peyton posed that question about articles they wrote?

    Btw: I’m not a Denver fan.

  52. Embarrassed? I think he definitely has the right to take offense. He didn’t play horribly considering his Offensive line gave him no time until the third quarter. He did set a completions record… if he had time, imagine how many more yards would have followed. Seattle had the perfect game plan and execution – getting Peyton off his timing (I didn’t hear Omaha one time). He was very uncomfortable, but to say he should be embarrassed is to say that the loss was his fault – the team as a group was at fault. Since both his interceptions came off a pass rush by Cliff Avril, I cannot imagine assigning primary blame (or in my case, any amount of blame) on Manning.

  53. This just in…
    Good Defenses beat good Offenses the majority of the time.

    Ask Peyton how many of his Receivers were hearing footsteps during the game.

    No Heart.
    No urgency.
    No passion.

    Play like it meant something.

  54. Peyton has a lot of pride. He’s right, he and his teammates put in a lot of work and unfortunately for them they didn’t win the big game.

    He’s still a great QB with 1 SB under his belt and he’s got at least 1 or 2 more shots to win another.

    He has nothing to be embarrassed about, he/they just lost to a better team.

  55. Well, the great Tony Romo put 500 + yards on the Broncos. He laid out the blue print and a few teams (especially Seattle) were smart enough to follow them and execute them. Congrats Seattle on winning your 2nd Title ( We don’t count the superbowl loss to the Steelers cause the Stealers flat out robbed them with help from the refs. Next season is the Cowboys turn.

  56. the word “embarrassed” was insulted by being used in the same sentence as the Broncos. A better word might be humiliated.

  57. Peyton should be embarrased, the Seahawks lit him up like a Xmas Tree, like all the seahawk fans called it. The haters were too dumb to acknowledge it but it happened.

    GO HAWKS, BEST IN NFL!

  58. A better response to the question would have been simply, ‘No. Next question.’

    The Broncos **were** embarrassed tonight, that is inarguable. No sense making it seem like you’re touchy about it. Just say ‘no’ and move on.

  59. It doesn’t matter if Brady, Montana, Bradshaw, Elway, was playimg etc.. No QB would have been able to beat this defense and win this game.. everything that could go wrong , did go wrong today in the biggest stage.. 1) Manning had a bad game, the first INT was on him, and no OMAHA?! After using it the entire season, you decide not to use it, the cadence was changed ..why?.. 2) offensive line just about crumbled on every snap, they simply got manhandled by that defensive line and gave Peyton absolutely no time to throw the ball … 3) Receivers did not get separation from the cornerbacks, D. Thomas losing the ball when they were marching, receivers really didn’t do much 4) running game.. There was none..5) Defense couldn’t even stop the Browns today ..In the end, they weren’t ready for that Seahawk defense.. quick, physical, hungry and simply wanted it more.

  60. You know, in all the hype leading up to the game, all anyone said was Peyton Manning vs. Seattle defense. That’s just one guy against a whole 11 man squad. How’d you think it would turn out?

  61. Maybe next time they’ll give Seattle 10 minutes on the pregame show instead of recapping why Manning is so great for four hours.

  62. This reporters are real vultures. Had he won, he’d be GOAT, now he is nobody? Shame on you, so called press.
    This SEA win gives Johnny top 5 pick. I love this team, MVP 7 rounder, Sherman 5th, Chancellor 5th, Kearse undrafted, Baldwin undrafted, Russell 3rd, Thurmond 4th, Tate 2nd… I want the same with my Jaguars. At least we have many former Hawks on our roster…

  63. As a neutral observer, that was as embarrassing a performance in the Super Bowl in quite some time, maybe ever considering the caliber of the Bronco offense. They were dominated in every aspect of the game and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the Seahawks made away with Bronco’s wallets and wives too.

  64. A better question might have been how much effort it takes to re-attach your butt after it gets handed to you at the Super Bowl. John Elway knows all about that subject and may be able to offer advice.

    That game was certifiably ugly. I’m going to guess Manning is still in shock and doesn’t even know what happened on the field.

  65. I was insulted by your play, Mega Head.
    That’s now 7 turnovers in 3 SB by you 6 int and a fumble and only 3 td’s.

  66. If hes human then he had to be embarresed ..during his great regular season you just knew everyone from fans the media and even himself if hes going to choke again…yea 13- 3 is fine but i rather have a Jim Plunkett who have below average stats but found ways to win when it came down to win or go home situations..Plunk also threw wounded ducks but when it was playoffs and super bowls they usally landed in Todd Chrtiansons arms or Cliff Branch..he also was a pocket passer but he did some houdini acts just enough to flutter the ball into his recievers arms and some how some way he would he once again open up his bag of tricks on his way to 2 super bowl wins ..i do agree QBs like Peyton Manning or Fouts have great stats but give me Plunkett for the wins in dec and jan when it counts “

  67. Peyton Manning first 3 SB 1-2 860 yard 3td 6 int’s 1 fumble

    Tom Brady first 3 SB 3-0 , 748 yards 6 td 1 int

    Brady better than Manning!!

  68. the real story is how the Denver O line got completely dominated…. that is what you have to do to stop Peyton Manning…. and Seattle did it.

  69. Well, he ought to be embarrassed. This was supposed to be a “legacy” game for Peyton “Lee Harvey” Manning. So what happened?

    I’ll tell you what happened. He did last night what he does on a regular basis in the biggest games. He gags.

    Consider the following: Manning has a losing record in the playoffs. His arch rival, Tom Brady, has a career lead in head-to-head games, 10-5!

    Brady has been in the league two fewer years than Manning but Brady has two more Super Bowl appearances and two more Super Bowl rings than does Manning.

    Manning is great running up the numbers during the regular season but he absolutely gags in the biggest games.

    THAT is his legacy and that is embarrassing.

  70. I’m pretty sure Denver fans were embarrassed. I was embarrassed for them almost.

    Shoot…as i watched the faces of the Broncos on the sidelines, I almost started to feel bad for them.

    Then I remembered all the BS about how bad Peyton and the Broncos were going to kill the Seahawks i had to listen to for 2 weeks up to the game. So i would of liked them to go for over 50 points before putting in the second team.

    Pete showed mercy on the Broncos. The 2nd the Hawks 2nd team played most of the 4th qtr.

    The second team In the Super Bowl?? Come on, that’s pretty embarrassing isn’t it?

    Amazing finish to an amazing year. Can’t wait for next year! I love this game! Go Hawks!

  71. This could well be an illustration of another sea change in the NFL. The new way may be to go with a young, solid QB, still on his affordable rookie deal, that allows you to put lots of quality pieces around him and on defense. The days when you can pay 20M of your cap to one guy and still be able to win a Super Bowl may be on their way out.

  72. I think “disappointing” would be the way he would describe it. “Embarrassing” would be the description of the Bruno Mars – Red Hot(????) Chili Peppers groupies raising their hands and jumping up and down as if they were asking their third grade teacher if they could go to the bathroom.

  73. The Denver OT’s were awful and the Seattle secondary got into the receivers heads. Manning did not embarass himself.

  74. All passes short which gave the team no chance to win? Setting a record with those completions? Pathetic. It was an insult.

  75. Regular season, no, nothing to be embarrassed about. However, when you lay an egg like that on the national stage in the biggest game of the year- sorry- it’s a fair question to ask based on THAT specific performance.

  76. All the Peyton fanatics need to face reality.

    1. Peyton Manning is a choker.
    2. He is a great regular season QB.
    3. Peyton Manning is a top 5 all time QB…but not the best to ever do it.
    4. The year he did win it all…he threw 3 TDs and 7 picks.
    5. See number 1.

  77. Seattle’s just one of the more dominant defenses we’ve seen in a long time. Look what they’ve done to the opposing QB’s the last two years. I mean Brees couldn’t get anything going against them twice this year. We might be looking at a possible dynasty with the way their built and how young they are.

  78. embarrassing, is excatly the right word. what is insulting is that you and your team didn’t even bother to show up for the biggest game of your life. and running the ball out in the end proves you didn’t even play the full 60 minutes

  79. I find it despicable that in a game as big as the Super Bowl the Denver Broncos were so ill-prepared.

    You mean to tell me no one in that building knew how to perform the HEIMLICH MANEUVER?

    And could help PEYTON MANNING when he was CHOKING!

    😳 😀

  80. All the Peyton fanatics need to face reality.

    1. Peyton Manning is a choker.
    2. He is a great regular season QB.
    3. Peyton Manning is a top 5 all time QB…but not the best to ever do it.
    4. The year he did win it all…he threw 3 TDs and 7 picks.
    5. See number 1.

    ——————————————–

    #4 Addendum – He barely beat freakin’ REX GROSSMAN!

  81. Why do we have to tiptoe around this guy? Is he that fragile ? In the regular season he’s the best ever. But this is a team sport and it’s about winning the whole thing not sitting around geeking out over stats. The list of guys with one ring include dilfer brad Johnson Namath all those red skins guys….he should not only be embarrassed he should’ve ashamed. He was disgraceful last night. And he has a huge forehead

  82. flash1283 says:
    Feb 3, 2014 4:31 AM
    Peyton Manning first 3 SB 1-2 860 yard 3td 6 int’s 1 fumble

    Tom Brady first 3 SB 3-0 , 748 yards 6 td 1 int

    Brady better than Manning!!

  83. What team was calling Manning’s plays?

    Down by a lot, throw a 5 yard pass over the middle, keep clock running for those 5 yards, get receivers beat up, pad stats.

    Get ball back, kill more clock.

    And Adam Gase’s stock must of had a major selloff.

  84. The reporter should have asked if this loss will add to the notion he is only a good regular season quarterback. And yes, he should be embarrassed. Man up Peyton and admit you played poorly.

  85. Peyton Manning and his team have nothing to be embarrassed about, they lost to the better team.
    The guy who asked the question is a idiot.
    Maybe ESPN and everyone will stop about the greatest ever and remember Brady has lost
    Super Bowls too.

  86. Don’t you mean the Broncos offensive line was beaten badly… Give the pressure that was there all night it’s a miracle he got any passes off, let alone a Superbowl record for completions.

  87. MEGA HEAD set his final record of the 2013 season, 12!

    As in 12 playoff loses, MOST ever for a QB.

    Sorry but you can’t be the greatest ever with that record oh and 1-2 in SB’s

    Hello FORSBERGLER , Manning SUCKS in SB’S!!

    3 TD 6 INT 1 Fumble

    Brady>Manning

  88. I swear from the opening bell he looked like Michael Spinx, scared to death, even before the fight started against Tyson. It was embarrassing. It was an outstanding game by the Hawks. Great great D.

  89. The Seahawks came to play!

    The play calling by the Broncos is what I have a problem with. No O-line. No running game until late. Screen pass after screen pass. How many times did Manning have defender holding hands with him? The Broncos were simply out-coached and out-played.

  90. The game plan by the Broncos was embarrassing. They played right into Seattles strength. The dink and dunk approach was pathetic. Teams proved that they could run on Seattle. Set Manning up for failure in my opinion…

  91. The Peyton apologists really don’t have a retort for the following facts:

    Manning is a “below .500” quarterback in the playoffs

    His team was the top seed in his conference SEVEN times, yet he won just a single Super Bowl. That means he is “underperforming” in the playoffs.

    His team was favored in every Super Bowl in which he played, yet he only won a single Super Bowl. That means he is “underperforming” in the biggest game.

    For his lone Super Bowl win he beat Rex Grossman. Compare that to Montana, who routinely beat outstanding quarterbacks to win his Super Bowls (Elway, Simms, Esiason), or how about Drew Brees who in his Super Bowl run beat three probable Hall of Famers (Warner, Favre and yes, Peyton Manning.

    He can’t be in even a discussion of the best ever……CASE CLOSED !!!

  92. I am at a loss to explain why the Broncos played as poorly as they did. It was embarrassing to watch them play as poorly as they did. I still think Manning is one of the best QB’s to play the game but last night’s game was terrible.

  93. Denver had a good year.

    I would have liked to see Peyton win….that said, at least I don’t have to hear crap about SB XXXV being the most one sided ever….

  94. Peyton has nothing to be embarassed about. Seattle’s defense has been doing that to all QBs all year long. They just found football players that were open to being coached, molded, and developed into an impressive unit.

    Congratulations to the 12th man from Raven Nation. No one is more worthy of handing the mantle of champions off to. You’ve earned it.

    #defense-wins-championships

  95. I was embarrassed for them. Funny what happens when you can’t stand in the pocket and throw with plenty of time or when Bronco’s receivers get chucked and bumped at the line.
    It looked like they had expected “gentleman’s” football and got a dose of the real deal.

  96. I told my daughter last night that I thought I was watching a replay of the Denver/San Francisco SB with Joe Montana and John Elway!!

  97. Only Michael the Mouth Smith would recycle this crap, but this is typical- maybe this Question was asked by Smith. Stick to defending Sherman-class is not something easily recognized by Smith.

  98. Why does everyone want to give this guy a pass? 2 ints, happy feet, many completions were 3-5 yards away from line of scrimmage. He has a LOSING RECORD IN THE POST SEASON, has as many rings as Trent Dilfer, Eli and Ben has more rings and better post season records. This guy should feel embarrassed and if not that is because of his EGO!

  99. Why didn’t the reporter(s) ask Peyton what Seattle did to take the game completely away from them?

    Seems to me a much more germane than “Are you embarrassed?”

    The Broncs were unable to adjust and were shutout for three quarters. Reminded me of the Ravens-Jints game a while back.

    It looked to me that Seattle took away everything Denver threw at them. As a result, the Broncs looked unprepared.

  100. In MEGA HEADS 1st 3 SB his average QB rating is 81.2

    Bradys 1st 3 average is 98.9 = Brady better than Manning

    Bradys 5 Sb QB rating 93.8= Brady better than Manning.

    Manning= best regular season QB ever
    Manning is the best at winning things that don’t matter!

  101. Don’t forget Pay-a-ton set the record for most playoff losses. And in a true fashion, he sets a Super Bowl record for completions, in a game lost by 35 points!

  102. the truth hurts. 43-8 is an embarrassment. the highly touted broncos got blown out. they got overwhelmed by the seahawks defense. anyone who disagrees is in denial.

  103. As a ravens fan I can’t believe I’m saying this but Peyton is not a choker.

    Honestly take him off that broncos team and they won’t win a game.

    To a man ever single ravens player last year said that was the hardest fought game, and truly would have been a win if not for Raheem Moore.

    So I know it’s easier to bash him and say his performance was embarrassing but honestly it should be elway who’s embarrassed for building such a terrible d and o line while only focusing on receivers and skill possition guys in fa and the draft.

  104. Despite Manning and his happy feet,he had wide receivers who ran horrible routes all night,a defense that couldn’t pressure Wilson..game over.Good old fashioned beat down.Game reminded me of the first Cowboys/Bills SB back when the Cowboys mattered.

  105. I am so sick of this Peyton worship. He failed last night and it shows that he is not a team leader. He can win when it doesn’t count.
    He never even mad an honest effort to go after the errant snap.
    Bring on Tom Brady!!!!!!

  106. He can be insulted all he wants, but his team had one of the worse performances in Super Bowl history. They should come out and apologize. His legacy is cemented.

  107. Wrong word. It was not an ’embarrassing performance’. It was a live, real time, demonstration of ‘choking under fire’.

  108. Welker admitted it was embarrassing and he’s been in a few SB. When Peyton had the opportunity to be accountable for himself and honest about the team play and lack of coaching, he points his finger at accusers, becomes defensive and generally classless. True Manning (all of them, dad/kids) colors.

  109. Maybe Payton just got old. It is a young mans game. The result is the same as when Favre went looking for a new team for one more Super Bowl win.

  110. Embarassing is an insulting word. It’s also proper given the situation. Everybody said, “Seattle hasn’t seen an offense like this ever.” The real tag line should have obviously been, “Denver hasn’t seen a defense like this, ever”…..

  111. Payton needs to take the bad with the good. Would this been written if Wilson would have lost.

  112. Its a team game and with a physical team like seattle you must establish the run 1st before any non mobile qb can be effective. That never happened which allowed seattle to embarass manning. Seattle..bigger, stronger, faster…made welker (in size) look like he was boble head pee wee league player. Punishing defense.

  113. I’d say that performance last night completely took Manning out of the GOAT conversation. And I’m a huge Manning fan. I think choking that bad in the Super Bowl cements Brady as the best QB of this generation. At the end of the day, Championships are the only thing that separate really really good QBs from elite all time QBs. He’ll have another shot next year to win his second but last night was a huge flop.

  114. It’s remarkable how the analysis always focuses in on the quarterback. While an important cog, there are many other players who have to step up, not just the QB. Manning’s interceptions were caused by lousy offensive line play. Did you notice the Denver running game? Nearly non-existent. That is a direct reflection that the offensive line was being abused by Seattle. The Denver defense didn’t step up either.

    It is clear the NFC is ahead of the AFC this year. San Francisco would have also abused the Broncos in a similar way.
    Getting on Manning for losing the game is really dumb. He can’t do it alone.

  115. Anyone trying to pin that loss mainly or entirely on Manning is an idiot. The Broncos were throroughly defeated in all phases of the game. If Manning had played his best game of the season, the Broncos still lose.

    Their defense couldn’t get off the field on third down, the OL couldn’t protect Manning long enough to allow him to make plays, and the Seattle defensive backfield did their jobs.

  116. I don’t think embarrassing is a good word either, unless you’re talking about the Denver O-line. Those guys looked lost and overmatched from the first play on. Overall, I think it was much less Denver putting on an embarrassing performance and more of Seattle making great plays. Sometimes you just get beat by the other team, and you have to tip your hat.

  117. With all the parity in the NFL today, that was a SB beating unlike anything we’ve seen in this era of football. A great defense, n I stand corrected, will always beat a great offense.

  118. I think of all the QB’s sitting at home watching (or not) and wonder if it’s fair to hammer one player for losing to a very good Seahawks team. Give Seattle the credit they deserve. The Broncos problems were caused by their opponent.

  119. 2013 Denver Broncos is the most over rated team. Looking back at their schedule they played only 5 teams that got into the play offs and lost 3 of those games. They had a pretty easy schedule and beat up on some mediocre teams with horrible defenses.

  120. When it’s all said and done the only game that means anything is THE SUPER BOWL and Peyton is not a god when it comes to the grand stage. To compare or refer to him in the likes of a Joe Montana or other legends is a “embarrassment” to them. Peyton is an sad excuse for good teams always has been as he will end his time this way

  121. I guess all the Manning haters will be out in force today. I am a Peyton fan as well as a Bronco fan and I have to say that they all looked like they had just fallen off of a turnip truck and stuck in the big city. Even John Fox looked that way. But I knew from the get go when Broadway Joe screwed up the toss it was bad news.

    The Seahawks as much as I can’t stand them deserved to win they are the better team. That being said lets curb the Peyton killing for now.

  122. Hey Peyton,
    Everyone that wanted the AFC to win thought the performance of you & your team was insulting. If you weren’t embarassed, you should be.
    Apparently you & your team were just the product of a weak schedule. (I think your buddy Prisco uses a term “Fraud”)

  123. OMAHA,,,OMAHA,,,,OMAHA

    BOY I WISH I WAS IN >>>>OMAHA!!!!!!

    QUACK,,QUACK QUACK

    BTW,,I only caught 30/40% of the pregame BS,,,but I counted 18 times the “heads” called him…..”THE GREATEST QB IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL”. No qualifiers no ifs,,no butts,,,,

    ARE you frigging kidding me?

  124. “We put in a lot of hard work and effort,” Manning said. “The word ‘embarrassing,’ I think, is an insulting word.”
    —————————————————————————————–

    Nah Peyton, you and the Broncos did a hell of a job orchestrating a collapse like that. This nfl is more rigged than macho man savage vs the ultimate warrior.

  125. Way to go Peyton Longface! When a basic yes would suffice you turn it all around. You are so used to the national media making excuses for you when you gag that you have bought into it yourself.

    Whenever the this guy gags the next day the reason he lost the big game is; this guy dropped the ball, that guy missed the block, the line in front of him didn’t hold up, there defense didn’t hold up. It’s always something. Did any of you see those floating meatballs he was heaving in the air?

  126. No quarterback in the history of the NFL has had more opportunities (team making the playoffs) to win it all. The bottom line is PAYTON MANNING IS THE ULTIMATE CHOKER.

    Manning is the greatest regular season QB of all time, but a mediocre in the playoffs. 13 wins 14 losses.

    For anyone to say Manning ranks higher than Joe Montana is beyond absurd. Montana never threw a single int in 4 Superbowl tries. Bart Star was 9 wins against a single loss in the playoffs against incredible teams.

  127. Condolences Donks fans. Reminded me of the SB between the Pats and 85 Bears. That’s the last time I can remember a beat down that bad in the SB.

    Manning should be embarrassed. Though his signature “pick 6 in a big game” is a skill he’s worked on perfecting for many years.

  128. The game didn’t embarass him but he thought the question should have embarassed the reporter? I guess that says it all.

  129. The rest of Denver’s team is average. Even among those receivers, Welker is the only one who has done anything and it’s because he played with Brady.

    With the exception of QB and maybe WR, Seattle is better at every position, so I was not shocked at all that Denver got rim-rocked.

    But seriously, Manning had nothing to do with the fact that Denver’s D couldn’t get off of the field. He had nothing to do with the Thomas fumble. He had nothing to do with Harvin’s return. And he wasn’t responsible for the botched snap.

    His offensive line was getting torched all night because Seattle knew that they could just pin their ears back because they had built up a big lead, in large part because Denver’s defense couldn’t stop Seattle’s offense.

    Manning played a bad game, but the loss wasn’t his fault; the whole team blew it.

  130. BTW…..THIS PAGE for the last two weeks has harped on Tom Brady,,for not viewing the game…instead spent it with his scorching hot supermodel wife……UH HUH..maybe he knew something all the talking heads didn’t…

    OMAHA,,,OMAHA,,,OMAHA

  131. There’s plenty of insulted Broncos fans out there today.

    Unlike Peyton they don’t get to bask in the glow of the ESPN and NFL media talking heads who never blame him for anything but give him credit for everything his team does.

  132. Legacy killer. No other way to say it. Greatest offense of all time…most points ever, most yards ever, most touchdowns ever…and got absolutely rag-dolled for 60 minutes. 8 points…with the TD coming in garbage time. Pathetic.

  133. There is a reason Peyton Manning only has one Super Bowl win and that reason is Rex Grossman. If it wasn’t for Rex, Peyton would have ZERO Super Bowl wins. He is a fraud of epic proportions.

  134. “The rest of Denver’s team is average. Even among those receivers, Welker is the only one who has done anything and it’s because he played with Brady.”

    Disagree. Demaryius Thoms is one of the top 6 or 7 receivers in the league. Welker is the best slot guy. Decker did pretty well with Tebow throwing to him. Julius Thomas has all the makings of being the next big TE. Denver’s receiving core is without a doubt the best in the league. The only team who could come close, receiving wise, is Chicago.

  135. johntonioholmes says:
    Feb 3, 2014 8:49 AM

    Manning played a bad game, but the loss wasn’t his fault; the whole team blew it.

    ——————————-

    The one superbowl Peyton won he had 247 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. The Colts defense held the bears to 165 total passing yards with 2 INTS.

    The superbowl he just lost he had 280 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT.

    Russell Wilson had 206 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT.

    To me all 3 of those QB performances are fairly similar. Russell had the fewest yards but also didn’t throw an INT. The difference is that Russell wasn’t the Superbowl MVP, I don’t think he was considered for the Superbowl MVP, yet Manning was the Superbowl MVP.

    It wasn’t for his dominant performance. The defense carried the Colts that day, indeed that entire playoffs. I think Manning was 3 TDs to 7 INTS for Manning that postseason yet the MVP was never in doubt.

    Why? Because he’s the media darling. He has more coporate sponsorships than anyone else in the league and it isn’t even close. His play on the field had no bearing on it, if the colts won Manning was going to be the MVP. It made the talking heads happy and it made the sponsors happy.

    When the team wins : Manning is the greatest and put the team on his back.

    When the team loses : the loss wasn’t his fault; the whole team blew it.

    Reality is somewhere in between.

  136. shyts7 says:
    Feb 3, 2014 9:12 AM

    …..

    Disagree. Demaryius Thoms is one of the top 6 or 7 receivers in the league. Welker is the best slot guy. Decker did pretty well with Tebow throwing to him. Julius Thomas has all the makings of being the next big TE. Denver’s receiving core is without a doubt the best in the league. The only team who could come close, receiving wise, is Chicago.

    ———————————

    Agreed. If the Bears had that receiving corps back in 2006, Peyton would be ringless.

  137. After a decade or so of competitive Super Bowls, we finally got the throwback game. The defensive oriented NFC team absolutely beating down the high flying offensive AFC team. Peyton should not be embarrassed, but more or less humbled. All of those bogus records don’t mean jack unless you win the big game at the end of the year, just like the Pats in ’07.

    On another note, it looks as if the balance of power has definitely shifted back to the NFC and I would not be surprised to see this conference rattle off two more Super Bowl wins before the AFC catches back up.

  138. brazzz01 says: Feb 3, 2014 9:01 AM

    Peyton Manning hasn’t won a Super Bowl since Spygate!

    That was good

  139. @patriottony: RELAX buddy! You’re too fired up this early AM about your boy Tommy.

    Peyton had a shocker, but the amount of pleasure your getting out of it is disturbing.

    Go shovel snow or do whatever it is you folks do back there in the land of the chowd.

  140. The Seahawks showed just how powerful they are, it was unfortunate for Denver that they stepped into the contest. It was no contest, that’s a bitter pill to swallow for the AFC champs. They may not be embarrassed, but they have to admit that they were no match. Maybe ‘inferior’ would be a better word.

  141. Hey Peyton….. Youre no Colin Kap! You are slow with weak arm and dont like wearing Dolphins caps. Seattle… we will finally acknowledge you are an NFL franchise after 40 years of obscurity. Heck we didnt even know you were in the NFC West until three years ago. The rivalry is now officially on now that you finally won something.

    M. Crabtree

  142. Well, the great Tony Romo put 500 + yards on the Broncos. He laid out the blue print and a few teams (especially Seattle) were smart enough to follow them and execute them. Congrats Seattle on winning your 2nd Title ( We don’t count the superbowl loss to the Steelers cause the Stealers flat out robbed them with help from the refs. Next season is the Cowboys turn.
    ————————————————————
    The Darrell Jackson push-off and Roethlisberger touchdown run were legit. The holding call that kept Seattle from getting to the 2 yard line in the 4th quarter was ticky tack, no doubt, but it didn’t matter because Hasselbeck threw an INT on the next play.

    So you can stop crying about the refs in a game from 8 YEARS AGO.

  143. Manning will take a lot of criticism for this loss, but by no means was it his fault. I will give you that he did not play well, but the Broncos were dominated in every fashion. For my money, Peyton is still the best QB I have ever seen. That said, the Seahawks were unbeatable last night.

  144. truthfactory says: Feb 3, 2014 12:29 AM

    Sorry, but I’m not sure what he really could have done. He had 15 incomplete passes. On many of those he was hit while he was throwing, getting the ball tipped at the line of scrimmage, or trying to avoid a linemans hands being thrown in his face.

    Once his WR’s caught the ball, there were 3 guys on them immediately. I swear it felt like Seattle was playing with 12 or 13 guys on defense out there. I’m not sure what a “great” and “clutch” qb would have done in that situation? They’ve pretty much shut down every QB they’ve played this year. Amazing defense… I was completely impressed.
    —————-
    Well said. It wasn’t like Manning was awful. He took what Seattle’s D gave him and was able to move the ball on most of Denver’s possessions. I don’t know what QB would have been able to beat that Seattle defense last night.

  145. Look. His team didn’t show up. They were happy to just be there. He does a lot to prepare his team mates but when it appeared that those guys were scared sh$tless what can ya do. Some of those players were scared

    Manning had a great year, he took a good team and made them great.

  146. Other than the first interception by Chancellor, can anybody point me to a bunch of terrible plays Manning made, such as repeatedly missing a wide open receivers or trying to repeatedly force throws, because I didn’t see a lot of that from him last night.

    In fact, if you had told me nothing other than Manning completed 70% of his passes for close to 150 yards by halftime, I would have told you that it sounds like the Broncos were doing well.

    I just don’t know what plays Manning was supposed to make that he didn’t against that awesome Seahawks D.

  147. That was one of the BEST SuperBowls ever! My third favorite of all time…number one being the Donkey beat down of 55-10 by Montana and the gang and number two being the beat down of 42-10 by Timmy Smith and the ‘Skins.

    Absolutely priceless watching the Donkeys get destroyed…just a beautiful thing.

  148. flgiant says:
    Feb 3, 2014 3:14 AM
    Peyton was embarrassed just as Jim Harblah was also made to look foolish by this team.

    ——–

    What an idiot. If not for the refs fixing the game, the Niners are champs

    All year long, the NFL didnt want the niners in the super bowl with horrific calls

    they wanted the cheathawks, just like last year when they wanted the double murderer

    Niners 7 time super bowl champions

  149. Manning the king of meaningless statistics and one yard TD passes, in a pass friendly NFL.

    Doesnt belong int he same sentence with Joe Montana, who played when you could legally mug WR’s

  150. whatever, manning got credit for all those 1 yard completions to TD’s when his receivers were making all the plays. Now that his receivers didn’t do much, how can it be Peyton’s fault? Seriously guys? San Francisco vs Seahawks was the real superbowl this year. Jeez, even the Saints played them better.

    Bottom line, he gets too much credit for the talent that he’s surrounded with and apparenty a bunch of apologists when they don’t play well.

    There’s a bunch of QB’s out with better wins against better competition and less talent around them.

  151. Manning is a great player but it demeans him and the profession when people say “he’s the best pure passer in the game.” The guy that skates the best figure eights is usually not the best hockey player and the best pure passer is usually not the best quarterback.

  152. So, how lopsided would the score have to be for it to be embarrassing?

    How ’bout 43-7, would that be embarrassing, or would it have to be like, 43-6? Or maybe it wouldn’t be embarrassing unless the score had been 43-3?

    Shut-out? Would it be embarrassing to be shut out, like 43-0?

    C’mon man!

  153. Manning had two picks, a fumble, and his theatrics at the line on the first play from scrimmage played a part in a fumble that led to a safety (effectively a turnover) . His pick-six was the key turning point in the game. Don’t try to say he didn’t have a bad game. The loss isn’t all on Peyton but he deserves as much blame for this loss as he does credit when they win.

  154. “Unfortunately, a few of us guys sitting up here have gold jackets, and we hold people to a criteria unlike others”

    “This is not good. What we saw tonight is not good. I can’t even tell you one thing that I saw that I can take home and say ‘man, that was alright.’ This was horrible. And it started from the first snap….”

    “This is the problem. We praise Peyton — we should — for calling everything, taking his team to depths, broke every record known to man — then we give him all the credit. So now when they lose, it’s not his fault. Whose fault is it? It’s a team, right? But is it the team’s fault when you win? No, Peyton’s calling everything at the line.”

    —- Deion Sanders

    #TRUTH
    #feelthepain

  155. The Darrell Jackson push-off and Roethlisberger touchdown run were legit. The holding call that kept Seattle from getting to the 2 yard line in the 4th quarter was ticky tack, no doubt, but it didn’t matter because Hasselbeck threw an INT on the next play.

    So you can stop crying about the refs in a game from 8 YEARS AGO.

    —-
    When the Super Bowl ref apologizes to the other team and says – QUOTE – “I impacted the result of the game” – there’s only one word that needs to describe that team’s so called championship.

    It starts with an A and rhymes with Plasterisk.

    Funny that the Steelers still haven’t won a title that isn’t tainted by either illegal PED cheating or the refs help.

  156. this is simply what happens when a team makes it to the SB without really being battle tested. same thing happened to the Pats a couple of years ago when they went 13-3 without beating a single team over .500 all year and even in the first playoff game they ended up beating Tebow and his 8-8 Denver team. Ravens in the AFC championship game ended up being the only winning team that they defeated the entire season. the NFC has had the better defenses the last few years and they will beat these soft, finesse AFC teams for a couple of more years to come until the tide turns again and…
    this is football at its best. the most productive offense of all time gets killed in the SB and almost shut out by perhaps the best Defense of all time..?? I watched the Bears in 85 and they were no were as dominating as the sea hawks were yesterday.

  157. Brady’s two Super Bowl losses came after 4th quarter touchdown drives to take the lead, Peyton’s two Super Bowl losses came after pick 6’s.

  158. Panthers fan who likes the cities of Denver and Seattle, not the teams. I agree with one of the comments, imagine if Peyton had to deal with NJ/NY reporters everyday like Eli. Now that I live in the Philippines I was spared this travesty, but about every 15 minutes I checked Yahoo to find out how happy I was having not wasted time and money on a SB party. Growing up in NJ my heart goes out to Joe Namath, notwithstanding his anti Peta coat. Next I want to see a wrestling match involving Sapp and Strahan, sumo vs. athlete.

  159. Ravens in the AFC championship game ended up being the only winning team that they defeated the entire season.

    ———

    The fact that an injury crippled Patriots team was the 2nd best team in the AFC this season – starting guys who probably wouldn’t make the practice roster of many NFL teams – that doesn’t say a lot for the AFC….

  160. It is an embarrassment when the losing qb tried to chastise a reporter about the use of the word “embarrassment”. Kudos to Mr. Welker said it like it is.

  161. When the Super Bowl ref apologizes to the other team and says – QUOTE – “I impacted the result of the game” – there’s only one word that needs to describe that team’s so called championship.

    It starts with an A and rhymes with Plasterisk.

    Funny that the Steelers still haven’t won a title that isn’t tainted by either illegal PED cheating or the refs help.
    ————————————————–
    He never said he impacted the result of the game. He said he just kicked a call or 2, which again had no effect on the game.

  162. Manning has just what I have…I’m in a wheelchair now… Manning will just get worse.Have you noticed how his throws look.Weak
    I Spinal My loathe spelled it wrong… It’s a determining spine

  163. Truth is, pretty much any game in which a defense can get pressure up the middle is a bad matchup for Peyton. He likes to move up in the pocket to throw since he’s basically a statue back there. Problem is, the pass rushes across the NFL – the best ones – requires that a QB be able to scramble out of the pocket and throw on the run when pressure comes up the middle. Look no further than the QB on the other side in the SB – Russell Wilson. As with the Patriots, so much of the passing game on Sunday involved the WR screen game, which a strong pursuit-and-tackling D like the Seahawks can take away. I think it explains why he does so well in the regular season but poorly in the postseason; he can read a D and slice it up downfield better than anyone with little to no pressure. But the more skilled and physical defenses deep in the playoffs can take that away.

    How did it end so badly for the Broncos? Their identity all season involved Peyton and the passing game; their offense was tipped way in that direction. If that gets shut down, you take away their identity and what they do best, and expose the weaker parts of the team (hello Bronco secondary).

  164. He never said he impacted the result of the game. He said he just kicked a call or 2, which again had no effect on the game.
    ——-

    You forgot the next part of his quote where he most certainly indeed said he impacted the game. Look it up.

    It’s right there in black and white.

  165. I’m a Saints fan. So, I got the chance to watch the Seahawks twice, the Panthers twice, and the 49ers once. And, I can say with absolute confidence that the Bronchos wouldn’t have beaten anyone of those three teams. The only reason I would give them a legitimate shot at the Saints is because the Saints don’t do well in cold weather. I think the bigger issue here was that the NFC was far and away the better conference this year. And, it showed in that game. Now, I honestly think Denver had a bad game at a bad time. If that game was play next Sunday I don’t think Denver would have one but I promise you I wouldn’t have been that bad. I think Payton is a great QB. I just think he had a bad day. And, all of you who want to pile on him. I think you might want to consider this. You saw what the Colts became without him. I still remember sitting at home watching the Saints 62 to 7 win over the colts. To take that team to the playoffs and two Superbowls was outstanding. Brady went down and Matt Cassel went 10 and 6, Montana left and the niners won another Superbowl. I think Manning still is one of the top two to three QBs to ever play the game.

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