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Dolphins commence process of creating trade value for Jonathan Martin


From the moment the Dolphins swung open the doors to their locker room and allowed multiple players to speak out in defense of suspended guard Richie Incognito in November, it was clear that tackle Jonathan Martin would not be able to return to the team as then constituted.

But now that the Dolphins approach the point at which they’ll have to decide whether to release or trade Martin, they’re possibly doing the only thing that can help generate trade value:  They’re privately suggesting that Martin could return.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network recently reported it’s “not impossible” that Martin will return to the team.  While that standard is loose and fluid and far from absolute, it’s more conducive to pulling off a trade than if the Dolphins were to admit there’s no way Martin will return.

If the Dolphins don’t have the “screw it, we’ll just keep him” club in their bag, it would be nearly impossible to trade him.  Unless two or more teams are boxing out for the ability to trade for the balance of Martin’s second-round contract, which pays a base salary of $824,933 in 2014 and $1.042 million in 2015, any team interested in Martin can reject a trade demand from the Dolphins by pointing out that there’s no way they’re going to bring him back.

As Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald recently pointed out, the team’s better play would be to cut him.  With the Scouting Combine looming — and with the Dolphins apparently trying to sell to other teams the notion that he could return to Miami — the next two weeks could provide the best chance to find out whether there will be a trade market.

Of course, the contents of Ted Wells report could play a big role in the willingness (or lack thereof) of another team to acquire Martin.  Teammate Richie Incognito, who has said he completely supports Martin return to the NFL, likewise did Martin no favors by disclosing on Twitter that Incognito’s good friend shared suicidal thoughts with Incogito in May 2013.

With friends like Richie, who needs bullies?

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56 Responses to “Dolphins commence process of creating trade value for Jonathan Martin”
  1. fdugrad says: Feb 13, 2014 5:31 PM

    JEEZ…That might be a fire sale. How marketable is Martin in a trade? I have lost interest a long time ago, however, it appears as though as time has passed, that RI would be more welcome in locker rooms across the league to a larger extent than Martin.

  2. thelastpieceofcheese says: Feb 13, 2014 5:35 PM

    With friends like JM, who needs enemies?

  3. thepftpoet says: Feb 13, 2014 5:35 PM

    Jonathan Martin is just a liability.

    He’s not even a very good offensive lineman.

    And he comes with all this baggage.

    I don’t even think most franchises would take a free draft pick to have to have this cancer on their football team.

  4. 80sbroncofan says: Feb 13, 2014 5:37 PM

    Who’s going to make a trade for this guy? He wasn’t that good to begin with and if anyone on a team makes fun of this guy he will go crying back to his parents and file a bullying lawsuit. He’s the football version of Richard Simmons.

  5. blackngold4life says: Feb 13, 2014 5:39 PM

    Meant to say Martin is a weenie! STUPID PHONE

  6. biggs13 says: Feb 13, 2014 5:40 PM

    Another 2nd Round pick wasted. Move along, nothing to see here.

  7. schmitty2 says: Feb 13, 2014 5:43 PM

    Let’s just forget for a moment all the distraction he has caused. From a pure football standpoint he got abused by defensive ends. Distraction+consistently beaten by defenses=low trade value IMO.

  8. justsomerandomguy24 says: Feb 13, 2014 5:45 PM

    I bet the dolphins would be happy to swap picks in the 7th round. I haven’t seen enough tape to know how good he is, but 1 million a year for a backup swing tackle is actually pretty reasonable. And without being the pressure of being a starter, maybe he holds up better psychologically. I guess I wouldn’t be surprised if a team spends a 7th rounder to kick the tires on him…

  9. hrmlss says: Feb 13, 2014 5:48 PM

    You give us a 7th, and we’ll give you Martin and a 6th.

  10. dynastyposeiden says: Feb 13, 2014 5:51 PM

    I have an empty pringles can and 3 dollars of free agent bid bucks left over from last years dynasty
    that should be the high bid

  11. billsfanaddict says: Feb 13, 2014 5:58 PM

    playoffs? playoffs? dey ain’t gonna be no trade. he is who we thought he was [after the latest batch of articles not the earliest]. a bum and a flake. he’ll have an nfl team [probably, or @least cfl] for a couple more years, but then, once hes no longer coasting on his youth-potential and draft status, he’ll disspear from our lives forever, thankfully.

  12. lightningbuggs says: Feb 13, 2014 6:00 PM

    “With friends like Richie, who needs bullies?”

    Funny. Especially coming from the guy who uses this forum as a political pulpit to bully everyone into thinking his opinion on social matters is the only one that can possibly be right.

  13. annes22 says: Feb 13, 2014 6:06 PM

    Who actually cares any more. Don’t bring him back to the Dolphins, the fans don’t want him. He was horrible, and a big baby who left the team, because he didn’t like the language, poor darling!! Get the hell out of there.

  14. wishingtonredslur says: Feb 13, 2014 6:06 PM

    Where is that report anyway. It was supposed to drop last week, they said middle of this week and the middle was yesterday?

  15. justbust says: Feb 13, 2014 6:09 PM

    The bills might take him, that’s it thou, nobody else is pathetic enough. If joe Thomas goes down look for the browns to grab him.

  16. grantsbuds says: Feb 13, 2014 6:11 PM

    They put pig tails on him?

  17. bobnelsonjr says: Feb 13, 2014 6:20 PM

    The vikings will probably look at it as a sweetheart deal and offer a 5th round pick.

    He is just the kind of player they want. Big talk and quit when things get a little rough.

  18. uglydingo says: Feb 13, 2014 6:20 PM

    Some team will pick up a steal from the trash bin. Martin had a tough time in Miami, on a different team he could recapture the form where he protected Andrew Luck’s blindside at Stanford. You can expect Indy and 49ers as possible interested teams. Luck and Harbaugh know he’s better than what he’s showed.
    The Wells Report will show he went through hell with Incognito. Manic depression can be readily treated with the right medication.

  19. beachsidejames says: Feb 13, 2014 6:27 PM

    He’s worthless. He has ZERO value unless you gift him to your worst enemy. He’s not even a cancer. Its much worse. Having him on your team is like being hit by a train. He can’t run block..He can’t pass block…and at any moment there is a good chance that he will break down and start to cry. When finished crying he will blame his teamates for his failure.

  20. phinsfanjoz says: Feb 13, 2014 6:34 PM

    Tim Tebow has a better chance of playing in the NFL again than Jonathan Martin does.

  21. catquick says: Feb 13, 2014 6:39 PM

    80’sbroncofan……Martins not that tough

  22. fishfan39 says: Feb 13, 2014 6:41 PM

    With the way that this has all gone down if the Dolphins could get a bologna sandwich for him right now they should jump at the offer.

  23. phillyphinsfan says: Feb 13, 2014 6:59 PM

    All of this happened because Martin couldn’t except the fact that he is not good enough to be a starting LT in the NFL. The reality is that he is just a backup RT and because he is too immature to accept this, no team will offer a draft pick for him.

  24. northshorejag says: Feb 13, 2014 7:02 PM

    On the pro side, you can alway get him on the phone

  25. loftonbomb80 says: Feb 13, 2014 7:12 PM

    The Broncos have some Super Bowl champs hats and shirts they’d trade for him.

  26. mmeyer3387 says: Feb 13, 2014 7:16 PM

    Why should a team want him? He never flashed even small moments in his time in the NFL.

  27. jprcox says: Feb 13, 2014 7:22 PM

    Who would want a tattle-tell like that on their team??… the Army/Marines/Navy have a “beat-down” mentality before they bring you back up in a good way, and I think some of that does bring mental toughness to the fore-front.

    Martin is a weak man.

  28. tigerlilac says: Feb 13, 2014 7:31 PM

    This reminds of Jet’s owner Woody Johnson trying to get value for Tebow. Cut your losses Ross and do the right thing. Give him his unconditional release.

  29. arwiv says: Feb 13, 2014 7:31 PM

    Call me crazy, but im thinking Incognito never would have revealed Martin’s thoughts of suicide if Martin hadn’t TOTALLY ruined Incognito’s 2013 season.

  30. tigerlilac says: Feb 13, 2014 7:34 PM

    To all you guys questioning this guy’s manhood, you do know he would kick the living you know what out of you?

  31. doggeatdogg says: Feb 13, 2014 7:36 PM

    He will play for another team but his new team mates will be careful in how they relate to him on a professional level. This especially if he underperforms. They will be weary about assigning blame that falls on him, but his team mates will make sure the coaches are more involved in how he plays. They need to ask Martin if he really wants to play, why go through this.

  32. thereyougo2 says: Feb 13, 2014 7:47 PM

    What pro team wants a quitter?

  33. doctorrustbelt says: Feb 13, 2014 7:51 PM

    Nothing says money grab more than son of a rich, successful lawyer who works for a huge non-union corporation and a tenured university professor.

    “Those types of people” are always looking for the free handouts.

  34. nobby821 says: Feb 13, 2014 7:54 PM

    He could play european football— big crying pretenders are a dime a dozen

  35. jimmyjoejohnbob says: Feb 13, 2014 8:00 PM

    Well, even Enron continued to sell their stock up until they went belly-up.

    Stick a fork in him. He’s done.

  36. stampnhawk says: Feb 13, 2014 8:00 PM

    Ted Wells sure is milking the billable hours on this one, but we all knew that when he talking about digging deep.

    Those 24 words I just wrote above have more trade value then JM.

  37. FinFan68 says: Feb 13, 2014 8:14 PM

    No trade value at all. He is a subpar lineman with the attitude of a jilted 15 year old girl. There is also the eggshell factor in the locker room. He won’t easily gain the trust of his teammates and that is part of why he claims he abandoned the Dolphins.

    Cutting him is the right move but I think he should give back his unearned bonus money

  38. haywoodjablomee says: Feb 13, 2014 8:21 PM

    JM should go ahead and open a flower shop.

  39. chemfootball says: Feb 13, 2014 8:28 PM

    As a Dolphins fan I really wish they wouldn’t do this. It is legitimately pathetic.

  40. therealraider says: Feb 13, 2014 8:35 PM

    Jonathan Martin will never play football in the NFL again.

  41. chargrz says: Feb 13, 2014 8:35 PM

    He should try badmiton or ice dancing.

  42. theguywhotoldtimtebowtoshutthefup says: Feb 13, 2014 8:39 PM

    Oh, another Armando Salguero take on things
    [eyes roll]…

  43. sconnyslovethemsomecousins says: Feb 13, 2014 8:44 PM

    As Seinfeld would say…”Good luck with allll-that!”

  44. finsguy says: Feb 13, 2014 8:53 PM

    I think Richie knows what’s in that Wells Report. All this time he has been the medias punching bag and he has kept quiet and been really pretty good. Why? Because he knew that Martin was depressed and even suicidal and he was being a stand up guy.

    But then he gets to see an advanced copy of the Wells report (as an involved party) and he finds out that far from being just depressed, Martin and his agent were actively spreading BS about Incognito and how he was treating Martin to better Martin’s position for payment of his contract and possibly even a lawsuit.

    That’s why I think he all of a sudden went twitterpissed after all this time.

  45. behike54 says: Feb 13, 2014 8:56 PM

    He won’t be welcomed back into any NFL locker room.

    Only PC media types think this goober has a shot.

  46. firstroyal says: Feb 13, 2014 9:32 PM

    Simple really. He wont come back to the dolphins, put him on the did not report to camp list and recoup the signing bonus he was paid and then let him sit on the list until they know hes done with football for good.

    -He is owed nothing
    -He quit because he knows he doesnt have the talent and then blamed it on a friend
    -And it he does somehow make it on to another team its like a slap in the face to everyone that ever had to work hard for a living.

    useless piece of #censored#

  47. abninf says: Feb 13, 2014 9:50 PM

    All these replies are a form of bullying and Making Martin cry.

  48. rajbais says: Feb 13, 2014 10:40 PM

    He’s going to be Taylor Mays … traded for a Rd 7 pick in the following draft.

    He’s no help right now.

  49. woodrree7 says: Feb 13, 2014 10:40 PM

    I honestly don’t think anyone would give 2 nickels for the guy,

  50. v2097 says: Feb 13, 2014 10:59 PM

    As a 9ers fan, I wouldn’t even wish him on the Seahawks

  51. oldcracker says: Feb 14, 2014 2:38 AM

    Dolphins will not get anything for Martin. If Martin really wants to play football for a living, he needs to get his head straight and try out in Canada somewhere, and let his balls drop. (They have that socialized medicine, too)

    Maybe he just settles with the Dolphins and goes back home to the cake-eating life style he grew up with. (He got paid and can still walk upright.) Maybe that was the plan all along.

    My Browns desperately need O-line help, especially at Guard. With Farmer as the GM, Pettine as the new HC, adding Incognito on the line might finally “man up” the Browns.

  52. joetoronto says: Feb 14, 2014 4:07 AM

    I’d take Incognito, but not this trouble making wimp.

  53. bobk3333 says: Feb 14, 2014 8:14 AM

    If the Dolphins release him, the Seahawks would be more than happy to give him a try. We would love to have another Stanford guy who played with Richard Sherman and Doug Baldwin.

    Pete Carroll knows how to take misfits and rejects and develop them to their full potential. The Seahawk lockerroom is fun-loving, but not mean spirited. Martin would be welcomed there.

  54. ccombs2 says: Feb 14, 2014 8:37 AM

    Look I know Incognito is a meathead but why does the media, in general, still ride this guy. Hell I don’t blame him for outing Martin. It paints a picture of his mental state and helps to clarify his role in this mess.

    Richie is a goon but he was railroaded by 90% of the media and instead of admitting they are wrong most of them continue to pile on the guy because he is an easy target.

  55. kona8190 says: Feb 14, 2014 8:38 AM

    Cut your loses, cut him now, save the money and the BS associated with him.

  56. steelcitywhitty says: Feb 14, 2014 3:59 PM

    Just wondering how many of you “manly” guys have ever been in a situation with a bunch of alpha males where the only way out was to start a fight and keep fighting until one person can no longer fight. That’s what Martin was facing and he chose not to fight. Unfortunately for Martin, a fight with Richie was the only thing that was going to stop the harassment and allow him to play football.

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