Giants waited too long to make serious play for Tuck

AP

So why did Justin Tuck end up with the Raiders?  The simple answer is that the Giants waited too long to make a serious offer.

And so instead of returning to the team with which Tuck spent nine years and won two Super Bowls, Tuck is heading to Oakland.

Per a league source, the base value of the contract is $10 million over two years.  Tuck can earn another $1 million total via incentives based on sacks.

It’s unclear what the Giants were willing to pay at the final stages of the negotiations.  If, however, they’d stepped up with serious offers before Tuck hit the market, they could have kept him.

Then again, maybe they didn’t really want him.  Maybe they were going through the motions out of respect for what he has done for the franchise.

Regardless, they waited too long to get serious in their pursuit of Tuck.  And so he now joins Osi Umenyiora as key pieces of a pass rush that helped bring a pair of Lombardi Trophies to town, and who ultimately had no choice but to leave.

36 responses to “Giants waited too long to make serious play for Tuck

  1. But he signed with Oakland so it’s not official. They might have not liked how he used them for leverage against the Giants so what’s to stop them from asking him to restructure and then releasing him if he doesn’t agree? Oakland is very particular in who they keep from the list of people they sign.

  2. He’s won 2 SuperBowls. now he just wants to cash in. I’m sure he knows Oakland, even with ALL that cap room, wont be competitive. I would hope they are but realistically doesn’t look like its happening.

  3. LOL…I guess that’s why all these teams are scooping up all of our Unrestricted Free agents cause their career died in Oakland right? LMAO

  4. This is the eqivalent of those “consultants” that get paid by corporate companies to show up once a month and provide basically nothing.

    Tuck can just coast his way to an easy 10 mill. while not having to grind himself to the bone.

    All while providing “veteran leadership”

  5. Yuck. Playing football on a baseball field. Reminds me of pee-wee league football when I was 10. Only the face painters think this is a good move.

  6. Think about it like this. He has under-performed for 2.5 out of the last 3 years. $5 million per season is a lot of money to pay for the way he has performed in the recent past.

    If the Giants could guarantee he would perform like the player he was the last 6 months, it might have been worthwhile. Kind of risky from my perspective.

    Hope he is successful in Oakland – but I think it was a good move by the Giants.

  7. Huge Tuck fan, but it’s time. I like the fact that the giants didn’t make a push.

    I wish him well!

  8. They didn’t “wait too long.”

    If the Giants really wanted Tuck to return, he’d be back. Reese sets his price, sticks with it, and lives with it. Didn’t work out last year but it did for a couple of Super Bowls before that. We’ll see how this one works out. Better a year too soon than a year too late. Tuck had a nice year last year, but his sack numbers were inflated by 2 big games against the Redskins. And he did little the 2 years before that. He was a great Giant and one of the key guys on 2 championship teams. Always stepped up in the playoffs. But it was time for the Giants to move on.

  9. Where are we getting that the “Giants waited too long to make a serious offer”? Not like we’re talking about an inept franchise. I doubt that they really wanted him back at that price or else they would’ve matched it. Everything about their recent moves has been about “youth” as in under 30.

  10. So tuck went to Oakland….who cares. Any true Giants fan will tell you he’s pretty much washed up. Ok, he had some sacks last year, but most games you don’t even hear his name being called. Hasn’t been the same since all the injuries and it’s time the Giants moved on.

  11. So where is the Giants cap money going if not to key players?

    Combining this with losses on the O-line it appears the Giants are in full blown rebuilding mode.

    They better have some 2nd year players and future rookies step up.

  12. The Giants, like someone commented above, are looking to get younger. They probably would have brought Tuck back but not for more than maybe 3 mill or so a year, and only at that price out of respect for what he has meant to the franchise.

    Anyone who watched the Giants last year knows very well that Tuck’s season was basically made by 2 games against the redskins. I’ll miss the guy but its also nice to see the Giants sever ties with another ageing member of the old guard. Snee will be next after this season.

  13. Raiders have the most cap space, and have been burned several times already in this FA. So now they’re getting a little desperate and paying up.

    Not sure what the Giants are trying to accomplish. They let Linval Joseph go as well, whose only 25, for $6m/year.

    Looks like the start of a major rebuilding project that will take a few years, a coaching change, etc. before it ever gets off the ground. By that time they’ll need a new QB too.

  14. When u can’t afford to pay it’s not called rebuilding it’s called no cap space. Would have loved to keep Joseph but they like his backup.

  15. Raiders have the most cap space, and have been burned several times already in this FA. So now they’re getting a little desperate and paying up.

    Not sure what the Giants are trying to accomplish. They let Linval Joseph go as well, whose only 25, for $6m/year.

    Looks like the start of a major rebuilding project that will take a few years, a coaching change, etc. before it ever gets off the ground. By that time they’ll need a new QB too.

    Are you talking about the Raiders or your queens? Sound like identical scenarios.

  16. THANKS TUCK FOR ALL YOU DID AND WE KNOW YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A NEW YORK GIANT.NOW GO GET ANTHONY BARR AND WE WILL HAVE 10 MORE SACKS NEXT YEAR.THIS KID IS A PURE SACK MONSTER WATCH ANTHONY BARR HIGHLIGHTS ON YOU TUBE.DONT LET THIS GUY GET AWAY IN THE DRAFT REESE.

  17. Thanks for the years Tuck and for teaching me about Subway sandwiches but mostly thanks for the years. You know Oakland can’t compete, you should have stayed for less because sometimes it is more.

    Truthfully thanks for the rings and the pictures of you “hugging” Tom Brady during our last two Bowls.

  18. Better to say goodbye a year too early than a year too late. Thanks for 2 SBs. Once a Giant, always a Giant. Good luck in Oakland Tuck ( face mask will look good in black and silver). Go Giants!!!

  19. Talking about how bad Oakland is? The Giants aren’t far behind. They suck and it’s not getting any better.

  20. The bias on here is incredible. Everything the Raiders do is negative and no one wants to come to Oakland. Thats simply not the case.

  21. Who is the last New York Giant in the last ten years to leave the team, and then go on to be spectacular? Let’s ask Derrick Ward, Steve Smith, Osi Umenyora, and others. They go get paid, but they really DON’T get paid that much, because they get cut in a year or year and a half. Tuck all of a sudden started playing well for a contract after mailing it in for at least a year. He can take his Subway subs and stick them where the sun don’t shine. He is one and done in Oaktown. Hey Tuck, don’t come crawling back to retire with Big Blue. Just go count your money and go away.

  22. Very disappointed in the Giants, first of all it was well known that Tuck would have taken a discount.. The fact that it took so long to sign proves he was checking with the Giants and I am guessing it was a difference of 5 million. I also think its crazy that people forget he was a solid player against the run, and we were the 8th rank defense.. He did struggle with injuries but he played through them.. The Giants are counting on JPP bouncing back from 2 years being MIA. Right now who also struggled with injuries.. I see holes still in the OL, CB, WR, and we can now add Defensive line to that list. Victor Cruz & Randle are #2’s, the games I saw he couldn’t beat the #1 CB’s, and struggled.. They are going to need a compliment, still not sold on Jernigan, who finally showed up for 3 games at the end of the year.

  23. The Giants need to rebuild. Good move letting Tuck go. Getting some young guys who are hungry is what they need to do, not hanging onto veterans on the downside of their careers.

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