Dennis Allen: No questions about Manziel on the field

AP

Raiders coach Dennis Allen says former Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel just needs to keep himself in check off the field to have a successful career in the NFL.

Allen, an A&M safety in the 1990s, attended Manziel’s Pro Day today and liked what he saw, telling the Houston Chronicle that Manziel’s arm strength is “well above average.” But Allen acknowledged that there are some questions about Manziel off the field.

“The biggest thing you have to look at with Johnny, it’s really not as much what you see on the field, but all the other things surrounding him – the media attention, the ‘celebrity’ of Johnny Manziel,” Allen said. “Those are all things, as he continues to mature, that he’ll be able to handle. And if he’s able to handle those things and keep them under control, he’s going to have a successful career.”

There were questions about Manziel off the field throughout his college career, but the talk that he’s a poor fit for an NFL offense seems to be going away. As Manziel showed in an impressive pro day workout, he can make every throw.

77 responses to “Dennis Allen: No questions about Manziel on the field

  1. Sure he can make every throw…..when there is no D on the field. Manziel bails the pocket faster than Ponder. Both lack ideal arm strength, both fail to read Ds pre-snap and post-snap.

    40 times:
    Ponder 4.65
    Manziel 4.68

    Ron J. should stand by his initial stance.

  2. You can question his size, arm strength, and character, but this guy has Favre-like intangibles on the football field. It will be interesting to see where he lands, and how his career unfolds…

  3. “The biggest thing you have to look at with Johnny, it’s really not as much what you see on the field, but all the other things surrounding him – the media attention, the ‘celebrity’ of Johnny Manziel,”

    Did you not see what happened to RG3 and out???

    The Media ruins these kids, I tell ya!

  4. If he goes to a good team with the right coaches who can develop him properly then yeah you can do some awesome stuff with him. But if he has no quality support then who knows what could happen. I’d be chomping at the bit to get him if I needed a QB; I am not afraid. Some of the things he said today just really resonated with me.

  5. I hope everyone remembers that according to those who were there ie Brian Billick jamarcus Russell had the greatest pro day ever i don’t care either way for manziel but please stop this talk he proved himself today i didn’t see a pass rush a blitz a audible a secondary in all honesty with all pro days you have to be a complete turd to screw up a walkthrough you design

  6. Now that rookies entering the league have controlled salaries, it would be worth it to take a shot on a talent like Manziel. If off-field issues persist, that would be taken into account when their first big contract comes up.

    By that time, he would have matured a few years and should be who he’s going to be as a player (emotionally and experience-wise).

  7. Manzeil has proven himself in big games for the past two years. Like him or not, he is a darn good football player. He will go in the top five.

  8. I don’t think he goes until the 2nd round. Mock Drafters love him, but NFL personnel, not so much. Plus, if you look at the teams that need QB’s early in the draft, none of those franchises can afford to be set back by taking a QB who may fold off-the-field, and possibly on it. Check that, the Raiders trade up and nab him at 2.

  9. I’d rather have Watkins or Mack w/The Raiders. If he fall to Vikings his career is done before it starts. The Browns hate winning so they’ll pass on him. Good luck JM!

  10. Two words:

    “Ryan Leaf”

    Nuff said.

    Ok, I added “nuff said” so that is 4 words.

    Nuff said.

  11. I’d listen to DA’s assessment – he’s also an A&M alum and has insights not everyone else is privy to. Johnny Football sounds more like JaMarcus Russell all the time IMO.

  12. Manziel has proven nothing. What he did in college does not in any way mean it has to translate at the Pro level.

    He tries to be a play-maker and I can give him credit for that. But he will end up holding the ball too long and get crushed.

    There are red flags a waving for this kid. He isn’t worthy of being a top 10 selection.

  13. There were no “on-the-field” problems with JaMarcus either. He could make every throw.

    But you give him a Bentley and point him to the nearest Jack ‘N the Box and you got a major problem.

  14. grantsbuds says:Mar 27, 2014 2:15 PM

    Sure he can make every throw…..when there is no D on the field. Manziel bails the pocket faster than Ponder. Both lack ideal arm strength, both fail to read Ds pre-snap and post-snap.

    40 times:
    Ponder 4.65
    Manziel 4.68

    Ron J. should stand by his initial stance.

    ————–

    Ponder in his last year at college:
    Games 12
    YDS 2044
    CMP% 61.5
    YPA 6.8
    TD 20
    INT 8

    Manziel in his last year at college

    Games 13
    YDS 4114
    CMP% 69.9
    YPA 9.6
    TD 37
    INT 13

    As prospects if you look at stats only it’s not even close. Manziel is a much better player. His accuracy will be way more important than his perceived lack of arm strength.

  15. “You can question his size, arm strength, and character, but this guy has Favre-like intangibles on the football field. ” (from leagueobservr).

    He also seems to have Favre-like intangibles when he is off the field!

  16. The raiders could have drafted Aaron Rodgers and Calvin Johnson but that franchise is such a train wreck they’d of ended up injured or just dreadful with that lack of stability .Draft Johnny football he’ll be just like the rest of the crappy picks

  17. raiders85 says:Mar 27, 2014 2:23 PM

    I hope everyone remembers that according to those who were there ie Brian Billick jamarcus Russell had the greatest pro day ever i don’t care either way for manziel but please stop this talk he proved himself today i didn’t see a pass rush a blitz a audible a secondary in all honesty with all pro days you have to be a complete turd to screw up a walkthrough you design

    ———————

    You can say that about Russell, but no one really saw that kind of bust coming based on his numbers in college and his size and strength. His problem turned out to be between his ears.

    I agree a pro day doesn’t mean everything, but
    a guy can only do what is asked of him. Manziel has met all the challenges so far.

  18. 40 times:
    Ponder 4.65
    Manziel 4.68

    that doesn’t really matter… ponder cannot move like manziel…. but i’m sure that doesn’t matter to you either

  19. Thank god for the JaMarcus rule … with controlled salaries it’s not a big gamble to draft a QB early anymore.
    Lol comparing JaMarcus to Manziel not even close by the way which state has the most starting QBs in the NFL?

  20. Raiders won’t draft him . he’s too short and has no pocket presence . this is just a smoke screen for some one else to take him ahead of Oakland. Derek Carr is more of a Raiders style QB . Tall with a big arm and can throw the bomb in a vertical attack.

  21. Smoke screen. The Raiders have no interest in drafting Manziel. They’ll hype him to get some sucker to trade up to the Raiders spot. Then the Raiders get more draft picks and their choice of five or six guys that can start right away.

  22. Joe Montana – 3rd round

    Russell Wilson – 3rd round

    Drew Brees – 2nd round

    I don’t know if Jonny is worth a 1st but as a fan that had to listen for 3 years about Blaine Gabbert “having all the tools” – maybe people have overrated the 6’4″ 245 lbs QB’s for long enough. Arm strength, height, weight are really a small part of what a QB needs to be successful. Jonny can make plays and has the ability to be successful in the NFL. It is the small minds that say “bust” before he even has had a chance.

  23. In an ideal world, Johnny Football would get drafted to an established team, sit a couple seasons until he learns the nuances of the NFL game, and then have a stellar career. But I think as we get closer to the draft his stock will rise and he will get taken by a perennial loser who shuffles around the front office/coaching staff every other year I.E. Browns, Jags, Raiders. As any young player does, Johnny will need a stable situation/offense to thrive. Just don’t see good things in his future pro career unless he’s in a stable environment. This is not a slight against Johnny at all, as most young QBs require this. But in today’s NFL “win now” culture it’s tough for teams to justify a high pick on someone who will be on the bench.

  24. Anyone else loading up on his workout gear? I’m getting a Nike Pro Combat Hypercool 2.0 Fitted Short-Sleeve Top (actual name!). It’s way better than the Police Action Pretty Cool 1.0 Stretch Top.

  25. I love these people that say ‘he’s proven nothing bc everything he did was in college’. Ok….so who do you draft then? None of them have proven anything by your standards.

  26. I would take Manziel and Bridgewater over Bortles. However, if I had a high draft pick I would wait to pick a QB (Murray/Mettenberger) in round 2/3.

  27. LOL WoManziel will just be another dumb criminal Quarterback like RGMEMEBlameShannyFragileEgo on the team with the Offensive name! Meanwhile Blake Bortles, Jadoveon Clowney, and Sammy Watkins will lead the Los Angeles Jaguars to a dynasty with a minimum of 7 super bowl in the next 10 years, zoo MOVE OVER Pitsburg City of Losers, cuz the Los Angeles Jaguars are proving why LA is da best city in the world, so much better than that run-down city Washington D.C. with four loser organizations! #LosAngelesJaguarsDynasty #BanTheRWordsFromTheNFL

  28. And all the naysayers probably did not see him play in college and watched his workout today..

    time will tell…

  29. I agree with Coach Allen’s assessment of JM.

    JM projects a tremendous amount of self-confidence & willpower & leadership qualities.

    Recent segment with Jon Gruden was awesome. I was impressed with how blunt Gruden was during that interview.

    As for myself, I am curious to see how JM’s career in the NFL pans out. I wish him the best!

  30. ssraebel mentions superior QBs going in later rounds. The biggest miss was Tom Brady in 5 or 6, I believe. No criticism intended. Just jabbering away like the rest of this thread. Big deal at A & M may very well be no deal at NFL.

  31. Raiders won’t draft him. They need to draft immediate starters. BTW, thanks for keeping Darin Gantt away from covering this Raiders article. It was a good read.

  32. I get the feeling it’s not so much who drafts him or where, because ultimately that team will lose. History is pretty clear on a guy like Johnny Football. He needs to learn lesson’s the hard way. It will cost the team that drafts him a lot, but his second team should be able to reap great rewards…Hope I’m wrong.

  33. true story: i once beat dennis allen 55-20

    i laugh at guys like dennis allen

    #JOKE

  34. If I were the onwer of any team such as Houston or St. Louis… Im thinking how can I sell tickets, jerseys… My company will be in the news, publicity…No Brainer for me…Its entertainment!

  35. where Manziel screwed up in college was trying to have fun like any college kid does. he should have been concentrating on getting arrested for beating his woman doing drugs and getting a DUI or 2 along with having multiple kids by different women. then there would be no questions about his character, he just would have needed the opportunity the NFL would provide to turn his life around.

  36. In other words… “Manziel’s problems off the field should be considered by the other teams. But for us, he would be a good QB because problems off the field is the norm in Oakland.”

  37. Coach John Harbaugh says: Mar 27, 2014 2:29 PM

    if dennis allen likes this guy, the NFL should stay far, far away
    ————-
    Allen has managed to stay employed in the NFL since 2002, but your educated opinion is far more valuable to us.

  38. The EBT Nation can’t afford Manziel, that is why they go after the cheapies. Of course they won’t admit this.

    Tarps on the Outhouse.com and lack of sellouts for the smallest venue in the NFL.

    Plus the small crowds look like a homeless shelter just let it’s persons out for the day.

    The EBT Nation will never get the successful big names or the successful Coaches, because they simply can’t afford it.

    And yet, they won’t admit it.

    The 49ers and their luxury stadium in a the top notch Silicon Valley, is going to really bankrupt the EBT Nation, as fans would rather take their children to a 49ers game in Santa Clara, and of course the majority of 49er followers make good money, and the franchise can afford big names.

    And the 49ers are winners, their prices will be much higher at Levi’s Stadium, but it will be worth it.

    And I will mention a Luxury Mall will be next to the Levi’s stadium.

    There will be no new stadium for EBT Nation in the Dublin – Pleasanton area, as the city and it’s leaders will not allow bread gobblers that follow the Raiders in their elite and their well taken care of neighborhoods.

    Last resort for EBT Nation is L.A.

  39. vegasgreek says:
    Mar 27, 2014 3:02 PM

    Raiders won’t draft him . he’s too short and has no pocket presence . this is just a smoke screen for some one else to take him ahead of Oakland. Derek Carr is more of a Raiders style QB . Tall with a big arm and can throw the bomb in a vertical attack.
    ______________________________

    News Flash…. the “Raiders style QB” hasn’t exactly been successful the last decade….

  40. Didn’t Seattle just show everyone you don’t need a dynamic “play-maker” and the “has It” QB to win.

    Peyton the QB “demi-god” got absolutely owned by a team Defense and a solid QB who was accurate on third down, throwing off play-action.

    Why not build the defense and run attack and take a QB second round? That is long-term success right there

  41. I can’t wait until they are “former” Raiders Coach Dennis Allen and “former” GM Reggie McKenzie…

  42. He’s the classic risk/reward. He’s either going to be a star or a complete bust. I just don’t see any middle ground with him. The career of GM that drafts him will rise or fall accordingly.

  43. Throwing in a helmet and pads and making his pro day an “event” is pure genius. I never heard his teammates call him a diva witch either.
    If this guy can earn the respect of the team, show leadership, and “get after it”… look out.

  44. The Raiders. Need. To sign Johnny Football. ! IF NOT THEY LEAVE THEMSELVES IN THE POSITION OF ANOTHER MATT ATTACK.
    But Reggie will probably screw up the pick again. Last year he scouted a hospital Ward. !

  45. suggestion: check the experts who rated the Dolphins LB/DE as the next superstar for their evaluation of JM. If they have “can’t miss”, or a sure HOFer tag on him, do NOT draft him prior to 5th or 6th round.

  46. Some team is going to make the leap of faith and take him early in the draft. Is it the Browns at 4, or the Buccaneers at 7 ? Minnesota will jump at 8 if he’s there. I don’t think Oakland takes him with Schaub in the fold and under contract for 3 years. Oakland will take Khalil Mack, no doubt in my mind.
    I say it’s the Browns at 4. Some will love it and there will be haters too. I think he’s a project and he needs a couple years to make it CLICK. My biggest concern is Manziel getting beat up and being Michael Vick all over again.

  47. Yet there are many questions for what Dennis Allen puts on the field each Sunday. 🙂

    Dennis Allen = Francis Soyer.

    (don’t know what that means, youtube ‘lighten up francis)

    Signed,

    A Raiders fan

  48. I got Oakland taking Carr. Schaub is not there answer and they would be stupid going with him and the sole leader of this team.
    Texas, Rams and Falcons all pass leaving the Browns as the first real shot and Bridgewater is going to the browns so the Vikes very well may get him at the 8 spot. Doubt the Jags or Bucs jump in but you never know. Vikes could trade up for him too.

  49. I love how people who represent other teams always find time to come to the raiders page and show how much of a HATER they really are. If you really aren’t worried about us and feel some sort of way don’t comment on the moves were making and let us live. But Raidernation does love the HATE you guys are showing us. So again we thank you and keep up the HATE.
    Raidernation4life

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