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Browns, Raiders seem to want someone to jump them for a receiver


As General Managers throughout the NFL continue to engage in the ritual of pre-draft press conferences, which usually entail the men using a lot of words to say not much of anything, it looks like two teams with top five picks want someone to cut the line to take a receiver.

Earlier this week, Browns G.M. Ray Farmer displayed all the subtlety of Flounder in Animal House while discussing the possibility of getting receiver Sammy Watkins at No. 4.

“It would be big, big ginormous [to get him],” Farmer said of Watkins (pictured).  “He’s a good football player. He has really good hands, can run all the routes and can be productive. Saddle him on the opposite side of Josh Gordon — wow!”

On Thursday, Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie said that he won’t pass on a “great” receiver at No. 5 for a “good” one later in the draft.

Unless both men are content to broadcast their true intentions to the world, it’s possible that they’re hoping to goad a team like the Lions at No. 10 or the Buccaneers at No. 7 to trade up for Watkins or Mike Evans of Texas A&M, which would push farther down the stack a player that the Browns or the Raiders covet.

With two extra weeks to discuss and debate and dissect, there’s also a chance that the guys like Farmer and McKenzie have opted for next-level Jedi mind tricks, saying what they believe under the assumption that no one will actually believe it.  Still, the more likely explanation is that they both want something other than a receiver, and that they hope someone in front of them takes someone at a position they aren’t targeting.

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45 Responses to “Browns, Raiders seem to want someone to jump them for a receiver”
  1. spasticpickle says: May 2, 2014 11:20 AM

    Jedi mind tricks lol you’re giving Reggie McKenzie too much credit

  2. jamaalcharlesincharge says: May 2, 2014 11:22 AM

    If the Raiders and Browns want something, you gotta figure that the outcome will benefit everyone EXCEPT the Raiders and Browns.

  3. purehyped says: May 2, 2014 11:24 AM

    Yes, Detroit, please line jump us (Oakland) at number 5 for Sammy Watkins. We can use all the lower round picks we can get, including a potentially better receiver later in this draft.

  4. denverdude7 says: May 2, 2014 11:25 AM

    “It would be big, big ginormous [to get him],” Farmer said of Watkins (pictured). “He’s a good football player. He has really good hands, can run all the routes and can be productive. Saddle him on the opposite side of Josh Gordon — wow!”


    It really won’t matter much if they have nobody to get them ball.

    Cleveland hasn’t had a decent quarterback since Bernie Kosar and even then he told them what to do. Not the other way around.

    Cleveland is where even a good quarterback goes to die.

  5. mdobrasz says: May 2, 2014 11:25 AM

    All of this pre-draft BS is so ridiculous. Just move the draft back into mid-April so we can be spared the insults to our intelligence – Hyping one player and dogging another to mind-fugg the rest of the league.

  6. shadylamp says: May 2, 2014 11:26 AM

    If Watkins is still on the board @ # 5, the Browns will take him. He’s the best skill position player in this draft. The Raiders will grab him as well if he’s still on the board. The expectation is that one of the “just good” QBs will inevitably tumble down the board. Watkins however will not tumble.

  7. coloradofort says: May 2, 2014 11:28 AM

    Thursday cant arrive fast enough………the dead horse continues to get beaten

  8. vikesr4reel says: May 2, 2014 11:31 AM

    Browns are clowns!!

  9. bigtimebrownie says: May 2, 2014 11:31 AM

    One of the reasons the Browns are the Browns is because they’ve consistently “reached” for a player in the first. Take the best player available at 4 and 26, Ray…please

  10. urbusted2 says: May 2, 2014 11:33 AM

    I think the Browns will trade back from the fourth pick. Having said that, if Watkins is available when they pick, he’ll be a Brown. I think he’s gone by #3 though.

  11. that's the best linebacker i've seen since Joe Montana says: May 2, 2014 11:34 AM

    Baalke will trade up to the 5th spot, mark my words.

  12. joeblowsintoronto says: May 2, 2014 11:37 AM

    As long as the Raiders don’t trade McFadden I’m ok with who ever the Raiders pick. Best RB in the NFL.

  13. whiteknightblackheart says: May 2, 2014 11:38 AM

    ohhh- another week of pre-draft intrigue. I can’t wait!

  14. Steeley McBeam says: May 2, 2014 11:39 AM

    Its not surprising. As deep as the draft is there are only 3 premiere guys in Clowney, Mack and Watkins. If they want one of the DE they want as many of the other players gone before them as possible, including Watkins.

    Or they want their choice of this years overrated list of QBs.

  15. bandoy767 says: May 2, 2014 11:40 AM

    I watched the press conference, That line was totally taken out of context for Reggie. If anything the big line for me was when he said there was a lot of great receivers in the draft, “receivers with great size”. To me that was more of a tell that he liked Evans.

  16. brainlesssloth says: May 2, 2014 11:44 AM

    Clowney gone by 3
    2 WR’s gone by 5
    3 QB’s gone by 10

    3 of those picks are done by a trade up

  17. DitkasHair says: May 2, 2014 11:59 AM

    I sure didn’t think I’d wake up and read of ‘all the subtlety of Flounder in Animal House ‘…Thanks Mike, made my day !!!!

  18. tonyzendejas says: May 2, 2014 12:05 PM

    draft draft DRAFT DRAFT, draft.
    Draaaaft, draft! Draft news. Draft. The draft.
    The NFL Draft.


  19. NoobTubeTV says: May 2, 2014 12:11 PM

    For the first time all draft season, I am convinced that the Browns are going to take Manziel if he falls to them. I have hopes for Carr at 26, but I don’t think he will be there at that point.

    I hate waiting this long for the draft.

  20. vegasgreek says: May 2, 2014 12:15 PM


  21. rabidboy says: May 2, 2014 12:17 PM

    Read as:

    McKenzie won’t let a WR with the same playmaking caliber as Fitzgerald or Johnson pass them in draft unlike his predecessor, Skeletor Davis, did.

  22. footballalldayeveryday says: May 2, 2014 12:28 PM

    Jedi mind tricks…? aka reverse psychology..

  23. nflfolly says: May 2, 2014 12:46 PM

    I doubt any of the other Gm’s lose any sleep over Mckenzie’s supposed mind tricks. He hasn’t accomplished anything since arriving in Oakland.

  24. jjackwagon says: May 2, 2014 12:51 PM

    So if Big Reg is “saying” that he won’t pass on a WR, then it means he really WILL pass on a WR. But since he knows that what you are thinking then he will go ahead and do what he said and draft a WR, but then that is what you are thinking he will do so he really won’t. Got it.

  25. barkhardandloud says: May 2, 2014 12:52 PM

    Browns take Evans @ 3

  26. El Pollo Loco says: May 2, 2014 1:02 PM

    The Raiders will take that corner out of Michigan St and once again allow the other teams drafting after them to get better

  27. hqudsi45 says: May 2, 2014 1:25 PM

    I just realized, the Browns have the same picks they did in 1996, when they moved to Baltimore. And they had just fired the head coach, and Mike Lombardi and given the GM position to an up and coming minority (Ozzie)… Is this the Browns new beginning? Will Ray Farmer choose two Hall of Famers with his very first picks? Or will the Browns just continue to be the Browns, aka the Factory of Sadness. Even as a Ravens fan, I have to admit, I feel for the people of Cleveland; great, great football town and I have so much respect at how much you support them despite the losing. Here’s hoping you guys can turn it around (although hopefully not at our expense lol)

  28. longsufferingkcfan says: May 2, 2014 1:27 PM

    At least the Browns fans lose with class.

  29. 4512dawg4512 says: May 2, 2014 1:35 PM

    Browns – Just a reminder, you need a QB to throw it to Watkins or Evans… You don’t have one and you’re not getting one in this draft. Be patient and draft O-Line and hope to somehow get Eric Ebron. Defensive back to go along with Haden wouldn’t hurt either

  30. Matt dog from C-town says: May 2, 2014 1:38 PM

    don’t be surprised if Evans goes off the board before Watkins….

  31. Slapshot says: May 2, 2014 1:40 PM

    The draft should be held in late March or early April at the latest.

  32. warhammer420 says: May 2, 2014 1:50 PM

    C’mon Lions, jump them and get Watkins!

  33. afcdomination says: May 2, 2014 1:59 PM

    PFT has to have some of the most diehard football fans out there. we love football. we disagree on a lot of things, and it is incredibly rare for basically everyone to be agreeing on a subject

    yet a lot of these new rules with the NFL, and changes, have unbelievable negative responses that seem to go ignored

    look at any PFT comment saying the draft should move back to April. it gets about 120 thumbs up and the 1-2 troll thumbs down votes(MAYBE, even they seem to be on board) Mike Mayock has said he liked it where it was, also that we don’t need 4 days, he liked 2.

    put it back where it belongs, NFL. and stop with the excuses. “schedule conflict”. that is just insulting.

  34. htown995 says: May 2, 2014 2:00 PM

    Mcfadden bust worse back in the league

  35. gary2525 says: May 2, 2014 2:49 PM

    Browns can’t afford to pass on Watson if they have the chance to draft him BUT it’s Cleveland some how some way they will screw it up.

  36. theytukrjobs says: May 2, 2014 2:49 PM

    Watkins is a terrific prospect. I can see why teams would want to trade up for that. He’s as close to “can’t miss” as they come at the WR position.

    Evans looks really good too but I’d take Watkins.

  37. gary2525 says: May 2, 2014 2:50 PM


  38. laxer37 says: May 2, 2014 3:31 PM

    No clue what the Brown or Raiders are going to do. Whatever it is, safe bet it’ll turn out to be a poor decision.

  39. oldcracker says: May 2, 2014 4:14 PM

    I believe Manziel is still on the board @ #4, when Jerruh calls with a trade. Browns trade down, fill holes this year, and pick up extra picks for next year. (They may even reach for a QB in the later rounds.)

    They’ll make do this year (2014) with QB Hoyer, Young and Thigpen, and find out what they’ve got. Pettine & Co will take their lumps and earn their wings this year. Fans will say, “Wait ’till next year,” again.

    Another top 10 pick next year, and they will finally finish the rebuilding process with a franchise QB. The 2015 season will be the year of “putting it all together. By 2016 the playoffs will be within reach.

  40. lionshawk says: May 2, 2014 4:15 PM

    Whether it’s Watkins or Evans or Benjamin or Lee in the 2nd, whoever lines up opposite Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate is going to see the other teams third or fourth best corner. If you can win that battle you have problems. Just as Titus Young or one of three other personalities in his head.

  41. kevpft says: May 2, 2014 4:28 PM

    Watkins won’t be there at either team’s slot – the Rams will get him at 2. They’re going to need serious offensive production in that division this year, and have a QB they need to get the full measure of.

    Manziel and Clowney (or maybe Mack) will also be gone, so Browns and Raiders better look to their plan B.

  42. mdobrasz says: May 3, 2014 7:15 AM

    I remember last year in March/April everyone said Tavon Austin and Cordarelle Patterson would be HUGE game-changers for the teams that drafted them. Their teams would have been better off looking elsewhere, based on their needs.
    They did well, but they were FAR from game-changers. Sammy Watkins is, supposedly, this year’s game-changer. Just sayin’

  43. psly2124 says: May 4, 2014 12:18 AM

    Mckenzie is the worst gm in the league and his track record for drafting talent is abysmal.

  44. brownsmakemecrazy says: May 4, 2014 7:54 PM

    If Watkins is there at 4 and the Browns pass on him, they might as well move the team to LA.

  45. rik0366 says: May 12, 2014 2:13 PM

    Looks like Buffalo took the bait. Raiders cannot believe their luck to get Mack at #5.

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