Rick Spielman: No specific talks with Rams about Bradford

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One of the many bits of chatter swirling about ahead of the draft had the Vikings and Rams discussing a possible trade involving Rams quarterback Sam Bradford and General Manager Rick Spielman was asked about it at a Tuesday press conference.

Spielman said, via Ben Goessling of ESPN.com, that he had not had any specific talks with the Rams about a deal for Bradford. The Rams maintain that they are committed to Bradford as their starting quarterback as well, although they have done their homework on some of the top quarterbacks in this year’s draft class.

Now comes the time for the obligatory draft week note that neither Spielman nor any other team employee is going to telegraph their intentions for the next few days. No specific talks on Tuesday can become very specific by Wednesday morning, which means that Spielman’s vow not to trade Ponder during Tuesday’s press conference should also be taken with a grain of salt.

Maybe less of a grain with that one, though. Spielman also had told reporters that he isn’t afraid to take a quarterback because of how things turned out with Ponder, which doesn’t say much for the quarterback’s trade value.

92 responses to “Rick Spielman: No specific talks with Rams about Bradford

  1. If Spielman trades the 8th pick for Bradford, he should never allowed to be work above the level of water boy for an elementary school team.

  2. Just think, last year, on this day, the draft would’ve been nearly two weeks over.

    The Ramone’s “I wanna be sedated” comes to mind when thinking about HOW LONG WE’VE HAD TO FREAKING WAIT

  3. This is a complete bunch of crap. Bradford is next year’s solid backup… nothing better. He busted his wheels, and his head got smacked one too many times, good luck to the rams for getting anything better than a 6th rounder for him.

  4. Hard to tell if one is better than the other. I don’t think the Vikings have the ability to develop a QB. That is why they spent the last decade or more using older ones, Moon, Cunningham, Favre, George, now Cassell. It is hard to tell if Ponder stinks or the smell is coming from somewhere else. But I don’t see Bradford as fixing it.

  5. I’d be more inclined to believe they weren’t interested in him if Spielman would have said “We’re in deep negotiations with the Rams in the process of aquiring Sam Bradford.”

  6. Vikings will be playing outside for two years and Bradfords arm is not world class. Would be a silly move for them.

    No doubt this is Bradfords make or break season with the Rams though. He has some weapons and stability now and should be over the injury. Personally, I think he steps up this year.

  7. Who in their right mind would give up anything for Ponder? He is the worst QB in the entire league. Backups are better than him.

  8. The Vikings have the best GM in all of sports.

    We are the definition of success.

    And 18 division titles speaks for itself.

    Let the purple & gold confetti fall.

    Skol

  9. So many problems with a trade for Bradford. He counts $17 mill against the cap this year and it goes up next year, so major cap issues. Second he’s coming off an ACL and has missed 10 games the last 3 years. Third, he had his career best 60% completion percentage last year which ranked him 22nd in the league; Ponder completed 63.8% and was benched. Finally, a trade would involve picks for MN, something they count more than gold. Not going to happen.

  10. I guess you’d have to momentarily consider it – if Mini hadn’t re-signed Casell.
    But they did.

  11. Could be worse Viking fans…… you could have Ted Thompson running the shots…. or Jabba MrCarthy calling the plays…………..

  12. Like Suh, Bradford’s contract is too expensive…plus who really knows how he recovers from the knee.

    It’s fashionable to dismiss Ponder but it would be interesting to see if QB Whisperer Turner can get something out of him that nobody else has. Ponder has nothing to lose and everything to gain by hanging on every word Norv says about how to improve.

  13. This is why Rick Spielman is a better GM than Ted Thompson:

    Rick Spielman has drafted 61 players since he took over the draft room in 2006, eight of them were voted to the Pro Bowl.

    Ted Thompson has drafted 87 players since he took over the draft room in 2005, only seven of them were voted to the Pro Bowl.

    That’s 13% Pro Bowl Player success rate for Spiel man & only 7% success rate for Ted Thompson.

    Once again proving the Minnesota Vikings superior.

  14. If the Rams want to trade Bradford, they will get no more then a 4th round pick. Personally I wouldn’t even give that up. There are plenty of average QBs in this draft and you will find them in every round.

  15. Minnesota — take note.
    St Louis makes the trade of the century with Washington, and both teams still dwell in the cellar.

  16. As a supporter I know times are tough but you look back in time and you could have the seasons the Turd Bay Packers had in the 70’s,80’s and today….Then again we have gone 24-8 over Turd Bay in the past 16 years and that includes going 10-6 at Lamblow over this period….The confeti will be falling soon!!!!

  17. The Packers have to pick from the bottom of the selections every year, and the Vikings always pick near the top. The Vikings should have twice as many Pro Bowl selections during their respective tenures.

    Advantage: Thompson.

  18. I hope the trade doesn’t happen so I can watch the draft this Thursday night just to tune in to see which Qb is going to be picked too high by the Vikings.

    But if Spieladope trades for Bradford, they should run him out of town on the end of a rail.

  19. Yeah, you don’t want Thompson or McCarthy running the Vikings. Too many Viking fans would pass out from the lack of familiarity winning would provide.

  20. If he was smart he’d deal AP while the dealin’ is good. RBs are a dime a dozen, I don’t care how talented… there would be similar production had for less than half the price. AP is closing in on 30, if he even really has any trade value left Spielman would be well served to make it happen.

  21. My Vikings continue to sputter because they can’t figure out how to get a franchise quarterback in place. Maybe they can count on Aaron Rodgers retiring and following in Favre’s footsteps?

    Every Vikings fan knows Ted Thompson is ineffective and inferior. All he did was draft Rodgers after my Vikings passed on him TWICE.

    #skol #ErasmusJames

  22. You people are not smart. We would not give yup the 8th pick for Bradford. I can see them swapping first rounders and us giving them a 3rd for Bradford. And who ever says he sucks is a complete idiot. He hasn’t had a chance. A high school offensive line with number 3 and 4 wideouts. Hmmm sounds like he just needs a fresh start. I would welcome him to Minnesota.

  23. Spielman, if you trade for him 2 things: 1. It better be no MORE than a 6th rd pick for this chump. And 2. You better get him to restructure for about 5m a year.

    And on top of that, you better dump Ponder.

    That said, if Rick trades for Bradford I’m officially on the wagon for calling for his ouster….Bradford has almost been as big a bust as Ponder….ALMOST.

  24. And another day, another bunch of lying Viking fans, can’t get their facts straight. As much as they love to complain, compare, name call, etc. anything and everything Packers, now they make up stats. For the record Packers regular season Vs. Vikings since 1996 23 wins, 14 losses, 1 tie.
    Division Championships, GB 21, Vikings 18. Super Bowl Wins/Appearances; GB 4/5. Hapless, tasteless, worthless Vikings 0/4
    SKOL = Simply Kant Overcome Losing (Since 1960 and counting)

  25. Well, if there’s one team out there gullible enough to throw all of their draft picks at another pipe dream, it’s the Minnesota Vikings.

    #HerschelWalker

  26. Why does everyone claim that the Vikings passed on Aaron Rodgers?

    The Vikings had a young Daunte Culpepper coming off a 2nd Team All Pro season, and no one could predict he would blow his knee out the following season!

  27. I would trade Adrian Peterson for their second #1….. I’m a Viking fan and I can certainly see they are going nowhere fast for a couple years and why not get something for the greatest RB in the past 15 years

  28. I’d rather have Johnny Manziel or Teddy Bridgewater than Sam Bradford. That being said, I’d rather have Sam Bradford than any other QB in this draft. If we could get Bradford for a 2nd round pick, he’s surely better than anyone we could get at that point. He’s never had much to work with in STL. Just a bunch of tiny fast WR’s. Give him some actual targets and a run game that actually scares defenses, and things could turn around for him.

  29. Under no circumstances would the Vikings trade for Bradford. His contract is way too big and he hasn’t been noticeably better than Ponder over his career. Because of their contracts, Ponder probably has more trade value than Bradford does. St. Louis is just trying to make it seem like they’ll draft Manziel in an attempt to get someone to trade up with them.

  30. Vikings will only swap #8 for #13 plus Sam Bradford.

    The Rams can select their QB of choice at #2, and then one of the top three Offensive Tackles at #8.

    If anything, the Vikings might also include their 5th round selection.

    If any trade does happen, it will be after the Texans have either selected, or traded their pick.

  31. Think the Rams would take a big cap hit from the deal too – one more reason it’s unlikely.

  32. The average draft position of the Packers’ first-round picks since 2006 is 20.6.

    The average draft position of the Vikings’ first-round picks since 2006 is 18.7.

    Of those first-round picks, seven of eight for the Packers have been busts. Only one of nine has been a bust for the Vikings.

  33. Ok…. so in the interest of full disclosure I’m a Hawks fan born and raised…. and could care less about the Vikings or Packers.

    But I have never ever in any aspect of life seen a more delusional fan base than Minnie. Minnie trolls constantly talk about “fleecing” Seattle in the Harvin trade…. If being fleeced results in a Lombardi, than I really want to be fleeced annually. Please.

    I see viking fans on here talking about the Pro Bowlers drafted by Minnie compared to GB…. that may be so. But since 2002 when the modern day NFC North was formed the Pack has seven division titles and two Super Bowls. Vikes have two division titles and NO super bowl appearances.

    In fact… The only time in the last generation that Minnie even sniffed a conference championship game… it was with a Pack legend at the helm. Now that…. has to sting.

  34. I never would have thought we would ever talk about the H word again. (H. Walker) Mike Lynn would love it, the Vikes could own the top 2 worst trades in football history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. Bradford isn’t going anywhere. This is all nothing but pre-draft smoke and mirrors.

  36. So Spielman said he wouldn’t consider trading Ponder because that would leave a hole in the roster. They would only have one quarterback. Is he trying to make us believe that they aren’t going to draft a quarterback this week? If someone offers a 7th-round pick for Ponder, he would be stupid to not jump at it.

  37. “Well, if there’s one team out there gullible enough to throw all of their draft picks at another pipe dream, it’s the Minnesota Vikings.
    #HerschelWalker”

    Snappy and current reference there, LOL.

  38. Super bowl victories:

    Ted Thompson 1

    Rick Spielman 0

    Nuff said. What do you have to brag about? Thompson puts together a consistent winner with proven results. Spielman puts together top 10 draft picks year after year. If AP didn’t fall in Spielmans lap, he would have been gone years ago.

  39. myhawks1976,

    Just let you in on a tip. The folks posting the “Vikings are the greatest franchise evah” stuff are generally Packer fans attempting to be humorous. The ones posting “GB is the greatest evah” are Packer fans just being themselves.

    For some unknown godforsaken reason GB fans are obsessed with the Vikings. They are on every thread. They can’t get enough. Some day smarter people than myself will study their peculiar breed and attempt to explain it.

    But for now I think we have to just assume that they’re bored and have some kind of esteem issues. Can’t imagine how living in Wisconsin could produce that.

  40. He’d better not trade that #8 pick for Bradford, unless he gets one of St. Louis’s first round picks.

    After paying Josh Freeman $2 million to warm the bench last year, you’d think Spielman might want to be careful about going after someone else’s used-to-be franchise QB who is just one bad season away from being a washout.

  41. Now that Jeff Ireland, Mark Dominic, and Mike Lombardi are gone and Jerrah won’t fire himself, Rick Spielman is the worst GM in the NFL (and he was even worse with the Dolphins!)

  42. OK…..Division Titles are important. You can’t go far unless you qualify for the postseason. They are nothing to sneeze at. Congratulations, for each and every of the eighteen division titles.

    But can you please admit that it is pretty woeful when that is the only thing you can bring to the table? Wouldn’t you be better off keeping your mouths closed? You can’t honestly believe you “have put us in our place”, can you? Seriously?

  43. The only way these talks become “specific” is if Manziel is on the board at 8 IMO.

    If he’s there, Rams offer #13 and Bradford for #8 (and probably a later round pick).

    As a Vikings fan, I’d take that. We get a QB that has potential and will still have our choice of Barr, Aaron Donald or one of the Top 2 CBs.

    I see that as a Win-win.

    Spielman is a lot of things, and deserves a ton of flack for drafting Ponder, but he makes smart trades.

  44. myhawks1976 says: May 6, 2014 4:59 PM

    Ok…. so in the interest of full disclosure I’m a Hawks fan born and raised…. and could care less about the Vikings or Packers.

    But I have never ever in any aspect of life seen a more delusional fan base than Minnie. Minnie trolls constantly talk about “fleecing” Seattle in the Harvin trade…. If being fleeced results in a Lombardi, than I really want to be fleeced annually. Please.

    I see viking fans on here talking about the Pro Bowlers drafted by Minnie compared to GB…. that may be so. But since 2002 when the modern day NFC North was formed the Pack has seven division titles and two Super Bowls. Vikes have two division titles and NO super bowl appearances.

    In fact… The only time in the last generation that Minnie even sniffed a conference championship game… it was with a Pack legend at the helm. Now that…. has to sting.
    ———————————————————–
    really you didn’t get fleeced bc you won the Superbowl? Um he was hurt all year long! Yep he’s the reason you won the Lombardi! This is a small reason why you hawk fans are the worst! where where you when your team sucked? (a bad bandwagon organization)

    2nd you complain about us bickering about pro bowlers selected. you then go on to pick a time frame in which we haven’t been that good and compare us to the packers? Were you not just complain in the start of the paragraph about us doing that? Hypocrite!! (another small reason why hawk fans are the worst)

    At least our fan base is loyal through the thick and thin. Were kinda like the red socks. Cursed! I don’t agree with a lot of the stuff the poet says, frankly he makes the rest of us look bad. I feel were getting close to breaking that curse and when it does the flood gates will open! (the dynasty is coming poet!)

    Were Coming me boy’s. So keep the hateraid coming and when your team falls into the abyss, there you’ll be fading right along with em. Bandwagon fans are a joke!!! Skol to the loyal vikings. (and to the packer fans that had the acronym for skol. that was one of the best burns I’ve read from a packer fan. LOL) Try harder carl and tokyo take a page from you pal. If you weren’t 99% crap and 1%gem I would like you, but you two try to hard. I love good trash talk! (even against my own team.)

    Just to clear the air all teams have bandwagon fans, but the hawks are the worst of them all followed second by Denver!!

  45. Remember Brian Brohm says: May 6, 2014 4:54 PM

    Of those first-round picks, seven of eight for the Packers have been busts. Only one of nine has been a bust for the Vikings.
    —————

    Seven of eight have been busts? Vikings fans apparently have a different definition of bust than the rest of the NFL….

    AJ Hawk – 832 tackles, 18.5 sacks, 9 interceptions.
    Chad Greenway – 899 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 9 interceptions.
    But apparently, Hawk is a major bust, and Greenway is a rousing success.

    Brian Bulaga is a bust because he’s been hurt a couple times? Yeah….ok. Then I guess Xavier Rhodes and Harrison Smith are busts too.

    If Datone Jones (10 tackles, 3.5 sacks) is already considered a bust after his rookie year, then Sharrif Floyd (19 tackles, 2.5 sacks) is a big ol’ stinker. And if BJ Raji is defined as a bust (after a few good years and a few bad ones), then Matt Kalil (one very good year, followed by one terrible year) is a bust as well.

    And it’s hard to consider the Percy Harvin pick a success…..considering he was off the team after four seasons.

    It’s also funny that Vikings fans only focus on the first round. Considering it’s Thompson’s success with later round (and undrafted rookies) that has paved the way for the Packers never-ending domination of the Vikings. Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and Eddie Lacy: all second round picks (with Lacy and Cobb coming from the end of the round). Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Jarrett Boykin: All undrafted, all considerably better than their drafted counterparts on the Vikings.

  46. Why does everyone claim that the Vikings passed on Aaron Rodgers?

    The Vikings had a young Daunte Culpepper coming off a 2nd Team All Pro season, and no one could predict he would blow his knee out the following season!
    ————————————————–

    Also, they act like it was some stroke of genius that Rodgers was drafted in the 20’s. It was pure luck that SF took Smith and left Rodgers to fall all the way down the draft. Packer fans were furious when the pick was made. They were all crying about a wasted pick on a QB, when they still had Favre and had needs in other places. Thompson was so enamored with Rodgers, he drafted 2 QBs just a couple years later because he didn’t think Rodgers was the guy. Both of them being failures. So, to them stupid luck is pure genius.

  47. Bradford would be a perfect fit for norv turners style offense throws a nice long ball with no woble nice and tight and when he has time he throws darts

  48. @tvjules:

    Actually, the Trade of the Century was Ron Wolf pilfering Brett Favre from the Falcons for a low first-round pick.

    The second Trade of the Century was Jimmy Johnson fleecing the Vikings of 3 years worth of draft picks for an aging running back.

    Just think: The vaunted 90’s Dallas Cowboy squad was basically built with Minnesota Vikings draft picks!

  49. So….the Vikings didn’t “pass” on Rodgers for the simple reason; they didn’t need him. But the Packers didn’t “need” him either, and they took him. Whether he drifted down and the Packers got lucky…..ahhhh, you make your own luck. The fact remains many teams passed and something told Ted “pick this guy.” Ted gets credit. Sorry.

  50. I get a real kick out of Vikings fans bragging about their pro-bowlers and the number of times they made the playoffs. If that’s what you have to fall back on, knock yourself out. But when comparing that to what the Packers have done, a different discussion could go like this:

    Packers fan: I’ve won the power ball lottery FOUR times!!

    Vikings fan: Psssh! That’s nothing! I matched four numbers TWENTY SEVEN times!

  51. what do you mean “trade ponder”????

    who would…how could anybody possibly…what is…what…am i reading this correctly? somebody actually thinks ponder could be “traded”?????

  52. Come on, Rick — this would be the greatest genius move of all time — every Vikings troll here on PFT would agree. After the fact.

  53. thepftpoet says:
    May 6, 2014 3:56 PM

    This is why Rick Spielman is a better GM than Ted Thompson:

    Rick Spielman has drafted 61 players since he took over the draft room in 2006, eight of them were voted to the Pro Bowl.

    Ted Thompson has drafted 87 players since he took over the draft room in 2005, only seven of them were voted to the Pro Bowl.

    That’s 13% Pro Bowl Player success rate for Spiel man & only 7% success rate for Ted Thompson.

    Once again proving the Minnesota Vikings superior.

    ——————————————————–

    There are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics.

    Cellar-dwelling Vikings must really stink if they have the genius GM working for them.

  54. The Vikings are 0-4 in Super Bowls, a better stat is they never had the lead in any of their Super Bowl appearances.
    SKOL

  55. sakatak says:
    May 6, 2014 8:08 PM

    The Vikings are 0-4 in Super Bowls, a better stat is they never had the lead in any of their Super Bowl appearances.
    SKOL
    ———————————————————————————-

    But they led all Super Bowl teams in Pro Bowlers, right?
    Please tell me that’s right! The Pro Bowlers!
    I mean, we are Viking fans….we have to have something to hang our hat on, Anything!

  56. stellarperformance says: May 6, 2014 4:17 PM

    The Packers have to pick from the bottom of the selections every year, and the Vikings always pick near the top. The Vikings should have twice as many Pro Bowl selections during their respective tenures.

    Advantage: Thompson.
    ————————-

    Give it a rest. The respective 1st rounders for each team since 2005 are:

    Minnesota: 7(trade), 18, 17, 7, 22, 12, 4, 23, 25, 29
    and two years without a 1st

    Green Bay: 24, 5, 16, 9, 26, 23, 32, 28, 26
    and one year without a 1st

    That means that each team has 6 picks in the back half of the 1st round, and the Vikings have one more pick in the top 10, and that was from the Moss trade.

    Your argument doesn’t hold up. It is the work of the GMs that made the Vikings last two top-10 picks Peterson and Kalil and the Packers Hawk and Raji. I’d call that a Vikings win.

  57. Hey Brohm or Spielman the magician or whatever past alias you want to be known as you might try and look at NFL GM’s and find one that has been more successful than old Ted trust me you wont find many currently in the NFL. For a Viking fan to ridicule him is just laughable and shows your jealousy. Lets compare shall we. According to you Ted cant draft well which is quite odd considering he rarely signs free agents but yet has led them to the playoffs 6 straight years with just draft picks! Your lowly gm who has been previously been fired for incompetence has led the Viking team to the cellar 3 out of 4 years. In head to head against Ted his record is 1-7-1. Ted has a top 3 winning % since he has been at the helm while Rick has just plain failed. Before you blame the coach just ask yourself who hired them. Old Ted had hired a coach who has been one of the most successful in the NFL with a Super Bowl. You have a team you claim every year is going to contend based on a stellar offseason and claim another championship but when season actually plays you end up changing username when reality hits. Its amazing that with all the great draft picks you are left with Embracing The Suck! Its all about winning and the Packers have dominated old Ricky but you keep counting pro bowlers and we will count championships.

  58. The average draft position of the Packers’ first-round picks since 2006 is 20.6.

    The average draft position of the Vikings’ first-round picks since 2006 is 18.7.
    ————————————————-

    You know the trolls can’t handle the truth. They’re all sitting around saying…but…but…but…we always draft at the end of the 1st, that’s why, other than getting lucky having a QB he didn’t want drop to him, he’s just throwing darts at a wall full of names.

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