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Draft experts share responsibility for underclassmen who are undrafted

Todd McShay - April 10, 2013

While it’s unlikely any of the so-called (even if they are only called that by themselves) draft experts will acknowledge that the draft process is a crapshoot, with so many of the guys about whom they’ve been gushing never doing anything of significance at the next level, at least one of them realizes the flaws in the system.

Sort of.

ESPN’s Todd McShay has decided in the wake of the 2014 draft to wag a finger at those who had a role in cajoling underclassmen to give up remaining eligibility to enter the NFL, and to not be drafted.

“For those agents/media members selling ‘2nd contract’ to these young men, what say you to the 36 of 98 underclassmen not drafted?”

Here’s one thing they/we should say:  You shouldn’t have listened to made-for-TV draftniks like Todd McShay when deciding what to do.

McShay and those of his ilk routinely put ideas in the heads of players that have no relevance to what NFL teams actually think.  Soon, McShay undoubtedly will unveil his incredibly-too-premature list of the top players for 2015, and he’ll include in that list — you guessed it — underclassmen.

Last year, McShay put Tennessee offensive lineman Antonio Richardson at No. 16 on the top 32 players for the 2014 draft.  Inevitably, Richardson gave up his final year of eligibility at Tennessee to enter the draft.  And Richardson wasn’t drafted.

Ditto for Florida cornerback Loucheiz Purifoy.  Ranked at No. 19 last year by McShay, Purifoy left school early for the draft.  And Purifoy wasn’t drafted.

Then there’s LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson.  He was No. 22 on McShay’s top-32 list last May.  Johnson left school early to enter the draft.  And Johnson wasn’t drafted.

The fact that these guys left school early without being drafted isn’t entirely the fault of McShay.  But it’s hypocritical, to say the very least, for McShay to chastise those who persuaded players to leave school early in order to put in years of service toward a second NFL contract when McShay is a sizable cog in the machine that ultimately supports the argument that these players should quit playing football for free.

Maybe McShay and the rest of the self-styled draft experts should quit ranking players who’ll have remaining eligibility beyond the coming football season.  Maybe the self-styled draft experts should ignore underclassmen entirely, until the underclassmen have decided that the time has come to stop playing college football without the influence of draft experts who think they know a lot more than they do.

If McShay and the other so-called draft experts are going to act indignant when players leave school early and don’t get drafted, they need to get out of the business of scouting and ranking and discussing underclassmen.  Some of them perhaps need to get out of the business of scouting and ranking and discussing all players, but that’s a rant for another day.

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103 Responses to “Draft experts share responsibility for underclassmen who are undrafted”
  1. restorativejusticeprogram says: May 11, 2014 2:17 PM

    Florio finally posts something intelligent.

    Make a note.

  2. packerman1968 says: May 11, 2014 2:18 PM

    If he worked for NBC sports , you would not be saying a thing about it.

  3. norcal031 says: May 11, 2014 2:18 PM

    Maybe it is McShay who doesn’t know what he is talking about.

  4. thesmartest1 says: May 11, 2014 2:19 PM

    There’s clearly no draft experts. Some good and some not so good is about it.

  5. jetsclaps says: May 11, 2014 2:20 PM

    That’s McShay’s job, whether you like it or not. To put any blame on him for a player going undrafted is ridiculous, to say the least.

  6. squinn21 says: May 11, 2014 2:21 PM

    Didn’t Purifoy just get popped for a drug related felony? Why should we blame draft ppl for him being an idiot?

  7. avbanig33 says: May 11, 2014 2:22 PM

    I’d agree somewhat, but mostly Agents, friends, and family are to blame.

    The draft experts are just doing their job. I don’t place much blame on them when it’s up to the individual, their agents and their family that need to make sure they’re ready and do what they need to do throughout the draft process so that they get drafted.

    That’s the combine, pro day, and personal workouts. That’s up to the individual and their “handlers” to get the prospect ready for the draft and the process.

  8. bennyb82 says: May 11, 2014 2:22 PM

    Every player entering the draft should know that there are unforeseen obstacles that could arise. Even if these guys are drafted there is no guarantee that they’ll be in the league in a few years. If you are a junior and are not a top 5 or 10 predicted pick, why not stay one more year and get your degree? You have made it 75% of the way. Yes you could injured. You could also go undrafted and get injured in a tryout.

  9. axx1 says: May 11, 2014 2:24 PM

    ESPN is generally the most hated network among football fans.
    When will espn wake up and realize that their hidiously outdated sets are painful to look at???

  10. nfl4days says: May 11, 2014 2:25 PM

    Mayock’s opinion is the only one worth anything to me. He’s the one analyst I’ve seen who can actually admit to being wrong and saying that his words aren’t set in stone.

  11. gohometrolls says: May 11, 2014 2:26 PM

    This is actually good reporting and a good and worthwhile story.

  12. baddegg says: May 11, 2014 2:27 PM

    PFT posts mock drafts as well, don’t they?

  13. chinahand11 says: May 11, 2014 2:28 PM

    Well. Very interesting of McShay to “admit” what we all carp about: his analysis (and Kiper’s and other draft wags) are mostly irrelevant to team war rooms. As we have seen, these guys are not well-received by NFL GMs. If anyone does not believe that, just stick a microphone into a GM’s or coach’s face and say “Mel Kiper says…”

    Considering who McShay and Kiper work for, I am sure they view about 1000 x more film on players than myself, thus I do not totally discount their analysis. However, I am not married to their opinions.

    Nice of McShay to fess up, but how will he fix it? Rate only seniors? I do not know.

  14. gbrim says: May 11, 2014 2:30 PM

    Even if the draft ‘experts’ refuse to discuss underclassmen, agents will be swarming the prominent ones with estimates of their worth. The media is only one small part of this issue.

  15. jwil444 says: May 11, 2014 2:30 PM

    So again, it’s somebody else’s fault………no need for personal responsibility here. Victimhood alive and well.

  16. jhorton83 says: May 11, 2014 2:31 PM

    You forgot McShay’s most idiotic blunder: Predicting Jevan Snead could be the overall #1 pick. Less than a year later, Snead left early and went undrafted.

  17. gacoltfan says: May 11, 2014 2:31 PM

    Totally disagree. How about a little personal responsibility and not blaming others. Shouldn’t a player listen to his coaches over the media?

  18. paperlions says: May 11, 2014 2:31 PM

    It is the height of self importance to think that, as they were so appropriately called here, “made-for-TV draftniks” actually influence the decisions of players to leave school early. Yeah, they may see some of that stuff on TV or online, but they also have access to NFL personnel who will give them far better feedback about their prospects.

    There are probably 36 different reasons for the 36 guys that left school early and weren’t drafted, and in all likelihood NONE of those reasons are “I thought I would be drafted because of comments from a TV “draft expert”.

  19. thestrategyexpert says: May 11, 2014 2:33 PM

    But whether they admit it or not it’s not like they have to face any repercussions, that’s the prospects’ problems.

    And I’m still laughing at McShay/Kiper for doing an ESPN mock on TV that had 9 WRs going in the 1st Round. I predicted 5. Guess what, there were 5.

    Too bad they pay these guys in advance and not after they get stuff right.

  20. shackdelrio says: May 11, 2014 2:34 PM

    Purifoy is a moron. Read his past run ins with the law.

  21. calhounlambeau says: May 11, 2014 2:34 PM

    These men leaving college early are men who can make decisions for themselves. It’s called personal responsibility. I don’t know why Todd McFakebake feels the need to baby grown men.

  22. lenbias34pt says: May 11, 2014 2:35 PM

    Some institution is going to offer you a year of training, free food, a degree (work optional), a year round party where you are the toast of every party……..

    I find it amusing when 50 year old men with no upside (of which i am one) tell kids to leave this situation for the roll of the dice.

    If these kids work at all they will improve, and thus the draft stock will improve.

    Many more times than not, the kids should stay in school.
    The GREEN on the other side of the fence will be there in a year…..

  23. joefelicelli says: May 11, 2014 2:36 PM

    The draftniks have virtually no idea what NFL teams are thinking, outside of what the teams choose to leak. The player evaluation board is a bigger part of the problem. Players petition the board, and since they are underclassmen, teams have very little energy devoted to them during the regular season and bowl season. So when the board asks teams what they think of an underclassman, they give the equivalent of a wild guess in the scouting world.

    The only way to help these kids is for all 32 teams to put together a process for scouting underclassmen, to make sure their feedback is closer to reality. If players find out they are fringe draftable vs. day 2 picks, maybe there would only have been 65-70 underclassmen declaring instead of 100. Maybe all the teams should fund an underclassmen all star vehicle like the Senior Bowl for non-seniors, or have one the week before the Senior Bowl in Mobile, so Savage’s team, which is doing excellent work with seniors, can also get the lesser evaluated guys in front of coaches and scouts for a week. And the NFL and NCAA would have to agree to treat it as a “camp,” so players wouldn’t have to sacrifice their remaining eligibility if they perform poorly or get weak feedback. Let them see how they do in reality, then make a better informed decision.
    Then you come closer to solving the problem. And to illustrate that, at the other end of the spectrum, Phil Savage reports 90+ players from the Senior Bowl were drafted.

  24. pittsteelers101 says: May 11, 2014 2:37 PM

    Maybe they should stay in school for four years,graduate and get a diploma instead of blaming everyone else!

  25. wjarvis says: May 11, 2014 2:37 PM

    My guess is that those most if not all of those 36 underclassman will all get a shot at the NFL by being signed as an undrafted free agent. There are obvious pros and cons to being drafted very late vs being an undrafted free agent, but the bottom line is that they will be given an opportunity to earn a spot on an NFL roster.

  26. doubleogator says: May 11, 2014 2:37 PM

    Maybe those players mentioned ie Purifoy, had personal issues that kept them from being drafted, and not lack of talent…

  27. amgdds says: May 11, 2014 2:40 PM

    I’m a mock draft expert and I had all of those guys getting drafted. My bad.

  28. kd75 says: May 11, 2014 2:41 PM

    Mack went from undrafted to #5 overall.

    He will be a bust.

  29. chargerdillon says: May 11, 2014 2:49 PM

    Tod Mcshay and Mel Kiper are for ENTERTAINMENT. Let me say that again they are for E N T E R T A I N M E N T

    There is only one problem in this scenario and that is the blood sucking agents. The agents want them to drop out of school in order to profit on their success. This is and will always be the biggest problem with the decision making of your college players. The better the player the more agents follow.

  30. akhhorus says: May 11, 2014 2:53 PM

    Antonio Richardson failed multiple physicals for teams. His knees are shot. Anthony Johnson failed a drug test at the combine. Purifoy got busted with bath salts, cut a deal to be an informer, then reneged on that agreement. And told the cops that he just bought ecstasy.

    I don’t think that’s McShay’s fault.

  31. spittabeatz says: May 11, 2014 2:53 PM

    The guys you just mentioned all have had off field issues and thats why they didnt get drafted..one of them got caught with drugs and turned informant. Not mcshays fault for that

  32. phinmaster says: May 11, 2014 2:57 PM

    When McShay speaks, my mute button gets pressed. This is the same guy who said Robert Griffin III would be a better fit at WR in 2012. He has 0 credibility. I pay him no attention whatsoever.

  33. mustbechris says: May 11, 2014 3:03 PM

    Jevan Snead agrees

  34. tfitz11 says: May 11, 2014 3:03 PM

    I think Purifoy not getting drafted had more to do with him getting arrested, not being put on McShay’s evil list too soon

  35. wwwmattcom says: May 11, 2014 3:04 PM

    Please. Helpless college players? Cry me a river for these children adults.

  36. keltictim says: May 11, 2014 3:05 PM

    Personally I would have no problem with requiring a degree to play in the NFL. It would never happen, but it would do a lot of good for the guys that don’t make it

  37. kwjsb says: May 11, 2014 3:10 PM

    Kind of killing the messenger here are we not?

    Let’s blame ……
    1) They needed to stay in school and develop more
    2) The greedy agent, family member of hangers on who talked them into entering the draft too early
    3) The players union when the limited the draft to 7 rounds, remember it was 15 rounds..
    4) Genetics for giving them small hands, slow feet or short arms..
    5) They didn’t come out just to ensure a team will pick them so the media didn’t crucify the NFL for a perceived discrimination

    The blame game here just doesn’t fit

  38. jshawaii22 says: May 11, 2014 3:12 PM

    I’m sure most of the student athletes are leaving for the chance to actually have some $$$ in their pockets.

    If the NCAA would, you know, just pay the kids, I’ll bet many of them would stay that last year.

    js

  39. mauicat1 says: May 11, 2014 3:12 PM

    There could be a solution. If a player enters the draft and does not get picked, let him go back to school. No harm done. However, if he is drafted, school would no longer be an option. Also, the player would not be allowed to hire an agent until he is drafted. You have to assume that the agent has only his own best interests in mind.

  40. pftwd3 says: May 11, 2014 3:12 PM

    How about adults being responsible for their own actions? Oh wait… That’s so last century.

  41. wilburmills says: May 11, 2014 3:15 PM

    these “experts” are on television shows today “grading” the teams picks,,,, no one ever grades them—and I think they must have terrible track records–not only missing on so many actual picks, but also hyping people like Blaine Gabbert as “can’t miss” prospects…..

  42. kmg1016 says: May 11, 2014 3:15 PM

    It’s kind-of silly to blame McShay (and others) for preseason rankings that don’t (and can’t) take the player’s final college season and combine performance into account. And even if the ranking comes after the season, McShay (and others) can’t predict the player’s combine (or pro day) performance nor whether an off-field incident will torpedo the player’s value.

  43. jimr10 says: May 11, 2014 3:16 PM

    The problem is that agents also read the mock drafts and then convince underclass men the pot of gold is within their reach. You talk about personal responsibility and these young guys from very poor families believe these agents. The solution as I see it is for the NCAA to let them return for another year.

  44. bobzilla1001 says: May 11, 2014 3:18 PM

    To be honest, I watch ESPN only because it’s a train wreck. Most of its insight is astonishingly inaccurate.
    Jeff Saturday said during a roundtable discussion last week that the Texans and the Rams were picking 1 and 2 because they are both dreadful teams and have little to no talent.
    Not one of Saturday’s fellow panelists bothered to point out that the Texans are only one season removed from a 13-3 season and that the Rams owned the second overall pick only because of a trade with the Redskins.
    ESPN’s NFL coverage is a joke.

  45. youngs79 says: May 11, 2014 3:18 PM

    In round 1

    McShay had 4 correct

    Kiper had 3 correct

    Out of 32 picks

  46. jimbo75025 says: May 11, 2014 3:20 PM

    Something else to consider is that each year a few players enter the draft early in large part because of a coaching change at their college. For example, pro-style QB who will enter his senior year and then coach is fired or leaves and a guy is hired who has a spread philosophy.

    Guy can either roll the dice and enter the draft or transfer and sit out a year before playing (therefore spending two years to play one year).

    Give the guys who are caught in that situation a transfer waiver and it might help cut down on early entries who are on the fringe.

  47. woakland says: May 11, 2014 3:25 PM

    Don’t ignore the fact that agents are telling these guys the same thing. If a player believes or follows what Todd McShay says, he’s foolish.

  48. ivanpavlov0000 says: May 11, 2014 3:33 PM

    For the players who weren’t drafted, they’re in a better position than the players picked in the 7th round. Most of them will have multiple offers and will be able to pick the team where they want to compete.

    But yeah … the sports-opinion media in general are every bit as stupid as the political-opinion media. I don’t know which one it was, but I heard someone on sports radio questioning the brainpower of specific players for not coming out their junior year.

    It’s easy to have opinions when there are no consequences for what you say.

  49. sylvester000001 says: May 11, 2014 3:39 PM

    Ok we get it, you hate the draft and everything that goes with it.

    Is there anything in the league you DO like?

    Look at all the posts the past week, all complaining. Tell us what you do like for once.

  50. watermelon1 says: May 11, 2014 3:46 PM

    So it’s our/experts fault if these guys can’t make a life-altering decision on their own?

    Nah. I’d say nice try… But it really wasn’t even that.

  51. tonyricemajorharris says: May 11, 2014 3:49 PM

    Mel, mcshay etc.. are a bunch of hacks. Shame on anyone that takes them serious. They are there to entertain- that’s it.

  52. blowfishes says: May 11, 2014 3:54 PM

    I totally agree here. If NFL teams aren’t supposed to be allowed to scout underclassmen until they have officially declared, then no ‘official’ mock draft should be allowed to include these players either.

    Then again, I’m unsure what the process is for underclassmen when it comes to giving up remaining eligibility.

    Is it when they declare for the draft, or is it when they sign an agent? If it’s the later, then simply make it that agents are not allowed to sign a player until they have been drafted.

    Those left undrafted can then return and either continue playing, or at least complete their education.

  53. jimmysee says: May 11, 2014 3:59 PM

    Those who say do not know.

    Those who know do not say.

    That’s proven out every year.

  54. keylimelight says: May 11, 2014 4:01 PM

    Looking at the bright side, it’s good that things turned out this way for so many underclassmen. The cart that overturns on the road ahead is a warning to the one behind it.

  55. yesrowntreeyesgrosvener says: May 11, 2014 4:11 PM

    It’s always somebody else’s fault.

  56. jackers252 says: May 11, 2014 4:16 PM

    The fact is, some underclassmen will be better than the seniors next year. Should we just burry our heads in the sand and ignore that fact, or should we evaluate the talent based on just that….talent.

  57. rajbais says: May 11, 2014 4:30 PM

    Finally, someone admitting that the media influences people … even in sports.

    We’ve reached a one-time landmark.

  58. packerman1968 says: May 11, 2014 4:33 PM

    What I find sad, is the 15 people who are pushing these under class men to come out. And they are all family members who want to cash in.

  59. 12brichandfamous says: May 11, 2014 4:43 PM

    A man decides to enter the workforce and interview for jobs is not guaranteed an interview. Same thing here. The issue is they cannot back to college ball since an agent may have fronted them money and free training. Oh that’s right, those are available in college for the stars.

  60. bigjeter says: May 11, 2014 4:49 PM

    I completely disagree with the POV of this article. If someone wants to speculate on who will go when next year, for the entertainment of people like me, who follow such things, then there is no harm done. The decision to come out this year came AFTER Antonio Richardson played the entire 2013 year, not last summer. It’s like blaming a handicapping expert for suggesting which 2 year old will win the Kentucky Derby next year. It doesn’t matter. Let’s see what the horses do this summer as 2 year olds and as 3 year olds next spring. You don’t get to blame the writer for speculating now, as to who that horse might be to win the Kentucky Derby in 2015. Antonio Richardson didn’t get drafted? Well, why didn’t he know that? Because somebody said something last summer?

  61. mackcarrington says: May 11, 2014 4:50 PM

    People seem to want it both ways. I mean, the problem is that underclassmen are “draft eligible”.That’s not the fault of any draft experts.
    But if the NFL came out and said that only seniors are “draft eligible”, there would be an outcry of “restricting players from their right to make a living”. If underclassmen are eligible to be drafted, then they have the right to be ranked and possibly go undrafted as any senior does.

  62. irishdodger says: May 11, 2014 5:01 PM

    McShay lists his top players (underclassmen incl) based on their football skills. He doesn’t factor in off-the-field issues that these kids commit.

  63. nagganike says: May 11, 2014 5:04 PM

    Why is someone always to blame? These players are responsible for their decisions.

  64. ryanw822 says: May 11, 2014 5:07 PM

    Andre Woodson would give a thumbs up to this article.

  65. macjacmccoy says: May 11, 2014 5:21 PM

    Wow you know whats worse then being a hypocrite calling someone else a hypocrite while being a hypocrite yourself.

    How many posts have we read on PFT about how its smarter to enter the draft early because of 2nd contracts. You pump up entering the league early as much as McShay does.

  66. jcioffi1485 says: May 11, 2014 5:25 PM

    pure and simple, do not allow young men into colleges that they are academically unqualified to enter. Force them to actually get a four year degree that can be used in the unlikely event their pro aspirations don’t come to fruition.

    Going to college for the deliberate and willful intent to bypass an education for fools gold is wrong and speaks volumes about what is wrong in society.

  67. toldlikeitis says: May 11, 2014 5:28 PM

    Any player that puts stock into what Kiper/McShay say are morons. They just put out the same recycled cliches/stereotypes for all players. Sure they may watch alot of tape but how often are they wrong. They are the weathermen of the draft process, they have no say in it – they make their best guess – throw in some terms like “quick-twitch”, “high motor” and upside and call it a day.

    On the other side, if these kids do not appreciate staying in school and getting an education and are treating college as a step to the next level, why not make the draft entry process a little more stringent or even require players to have graduated from college in order to get drafted like so many other jobs out there. Many of these players are very shortsighted with delusions of grandeur filling their heads.

    At the very least set up some sort of developmental league to let those players who treat college as a joke an alternative while giving actual student athletes scholarships and playing time.

  68. cguy7 says: May 11, 2014 5:32 PM

    If they prove their worth they will have a fat second contract at 25-26 years old. Beats what I do for a living… All NFL players should have guaranteed contracts like MLB and NBA. That’s the missing piece to solve all the problems.

  69. bigdaddy44 says: May 11, 2014 5:41 PM

    These young men need to take personal responsibility. They also need to find advisors they can trust. Even if that happens, some are still going to make bad choices. That’s part of life. Blaming people like McShay is pure B.S. It is similar to the morons who are trying to blame Belichick for Manziel’s slide. Unfortunately, it is all too typical of our culture to point the finger at someone other than the one who is responsible for the mistake, Mike. Why don’t we all just get it over with and claim this is all Bush’s fault. That is the classic example of blaming someone else to influence the minds of those who can’t think for themselves.

  70. etyaps says: May 11, 2014 5:43 PM

    What a joke!players share 100% of the blame nobody is forcing them to come out that’s the risk you take when you leave early.

  71. krebsy34 says: May 11, 2014 5:49 PM

    I get that players want to “cash in” because you never know if you are going to get hurt or whatever.

    I think this is where it’d be good if there was like an “agent (s)” designated for CFB programs to help them make the right decision. These people would be paid by the NFL so that they have the best interest of all involved. The NFL doesn’t want to have undrafted underclassmen, and no underclassmen wants to go undrafted.

    Something like this may exist though I do not have knowledge of it.

    Mostly I think they should stay in school for 4 years unless they are a known 100% top-5 pick. There was no question Clowney or Watkins was going to get drafted. And so it makes sense for them to come out. Even if you are rated late 1st or even mid rounds, you should think “I’m a junior, I can play and get better, or I don’t do better and I actually have a debt free degree.” These undrafted underclassmen now have to decide if they want to go back to FINISH their degrees. A lot of these kids are probably from not the best of backgrounds or they have money issues or their parents couldn’t pay for college, so they are looking at the pros as an out for them and their family. It’s sad that they don’t recognize that an education can also be an out for them. While a graduates life style isn’t as lavish as an NFL players, it however is typically better than living in the projects.

  72. boltjolt says: May 11, 2014 6:20 PM

    I’m still trying to figure out how McShay became relevant and deserves a seat at the table on ESPN on draft day. Kiper has to hate that…not that be is great but McShay plain and simply, McSucks!

  73. kenstabler says: May 11, 2014 6:32 PM

    Barbers around the country also share the responsibility for Mel Kipper’s hair and Todd McShay’s. I wonder if Todd uses a (Flowbee). I think Mel’s is a wig to be honest.

    Nothing will happen though about their hair, just like nothing will happen about this.

    Let’s make a law about hair styles, and draft experts?

    I might vote for the draft experts!!!!

  74. icantblvit says: May 11, 2014 6:35 PM

    Mike – while I sometimes see eye to eye with you, I couldn’t disagree more with the theme of this article. You put McShay and Kiper on notice for people coming out of school early (not entirely, but some) then these athletes aren’t receiving any education – don’t they talk to agents, their coaches and they need to accept the responsibility of making that important of a choice. Plus, McShay and Kiper change their leader boards like they change their underwear. They evaluate what they see and know – its up to the player to SEAL THE DEAL. Interviews and conduct off the field, the combine and other tangibles. No blame whatsoever Mike – these players want to be treated as men, then they take all of the risk! Below is an excerpt from a previous column from your colleague on here – hmmm 2 that you blame on McShay – they did it to themselves.

    LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson is the kind of powerful 300-pound athlete NFL teams are looking for on their defensive fronts, but he reportedly failed a drug test at the Scouting Combine, and he wasn’t drafted.

    Florida had two cornerbacks who were passed over despite being good enough to be drafted, Loucheiz Purifoy and Marcus Roberson. Purifoy reportedly was caught with drugs last month and avoided arrest by agreeing to work as a police informant. Roberson served a suspension during his career with the Gators.

    All those players still have a chance to sign on as undrafted free agents and prove they belong in the NFL. But teams are wary of players with off-field red-flags, no matter who talented those players are.

  75. theparadoxx82 says: May 11, 2014 6:38 PM

    Whats stopping them from going back to school?

  76. doggeatdogg says: May 11, 2014 7:18 PM

    Draft prognosticators + Agents + Money = Fail

  77. blackcatnfl says: May 11, 2014 7:37 PM

    SO playing another year guarantees they would have been drafted NEXT year? Interesting.

  78. Waffle 2.0 says: May 11, 2014 7:45 PM

    it’s amusing who they used as examples this year. Purifoy and Johnson? Scumbag drug charges and ridiculous behavior? You have to be amazing to do that and get away with it otherwise you’re just an idiot that got caught with drugs.

  79. nite2al says: May 11, 2014 7:46 PM

    Don’t shoot the messenger!

  80. nmills001 says: May 11, 2014 7:55 PM

    The safest thing you can do is stay in school. You can’t blame someone who has no ties with the NFL that you didn’t get drafted. Nothing is guaranteed. Coming out early is a big risk you take.

  81. officialgame says: May 11, 2014 8:00 PM

    Is it the village idiot who publishes the list or is it the village idiot who blindly follows the publisher?

  82. 12brichandfamous says: May 11, 2014 8:05 PM

    The NFL runs an evaluation service which advises underclass men on their likelihood of being drafted. This service is based on an evaluation by a group of scouts. It’s the best indicator there is.

    If a player did not make use of it, the blame is on them.

    If they did make use of it, good job for making use of the tools available to you.

  83. smashadams1 says: May 11, 2014 8:08 PM

    This is asinine. Just another example of passing the blame instead of blaming the students and whoever is assisting them.

    It’s not McShay’s fault. I guarantee their coaches told them the dangers of coming out early, and not falling into the hype.

    They decided not to listen and try to get rich.

  84. 4thandlonger says: May 11, 2014 8:18 PM

    1. These kids need to take some responsibility

    2. The last 2 of these guys had big off field drama did they not?

    3. See point 1.

    But also why can’t everyone declare for the draft after 3 years and then go back to college if they don’t get drafted. I don’t understand this rule that you have to walk away. Seems like the NCAA screwing kids again

  85. ningenito78 says: May 11, 2014 8:18 PM

    100% a more true article could not have been written. Dead on.

  86. randrall says: May 11, 2014 8:44 PM

    So it’s McShay’s fault that the player made a bad decision?

    Don’t the players have to take some, if not most, of the blame? No, can’t have that. They are mindless and need to base their life decisions on what Todd McShay has to say.

    Riiight.

  87. bittersportspills says: May 11, 2014 9:39 PM

    In the “real” world, a student could find out if a company wants to hire them before they graduate., and what they might get paid. If what they would get paid is less than expected, they can continue their studies.

    Stupid eligibility rules. In baseball and hockey, a player can get drafted without losing their eligibility. If a NCAA hockey player pays their own way, they can attend and take part in an NHL team’s summer camp without losing their NCAA team’s eligibility. Obviously, in football they cannot. Makes no sense, unless you like a system that treats players like indentured servants.

  88. mwjr says: May 11, 2014 9:56 PM

    I don’t know if they still maintain this policy, as I haven’t subscribed to them in a few years, but Ourlads would never mention underclass men in their draft rankings until they actually declared.

    Decent policy, IMHO, but in today’s quick-turnaround, sound byte-driven news cycle that doesn’t get ratings or readers.

    To that end, it’s not exactly the fault of McShay or his ilk that these guys went undrafted.

  89. diealreadyralphwilson says: May 11, 2014 9:58 PM

    Florio hits it again here, McShay and his like have no business finger wagging. PFT tends to have perspective, give them some credit. Posting mocks to entertain is much different after players declare. @theparadox88 they can’t go right back and play because of eligibilty (the NCAA is a beraucratic, sanctimonious cabal).

  90. whatjusthapped says: May 11, 2014 10:06 PM

    There is no such thing as a draft expert. There are 32 GM’s and they will readily admit that they don’t fit that description.

    Everybody is on their own, responsible for making their own decisions. Pretty simple uh?

  91. bender4700 says: May 11, 2014 10:32 PM

    Don’t let the kid take any responsibility for himself?

    Agents
    Friends
    Media Members
    etc

    Not the kid at all?

    Did NOBODY WATCH “BROKE” – ESPN 30 FOR 30?!?!?!

    Seriously.

    Why is ANYONE SURPRISED?

    Stopped being surprised, dumb kids chase money. Most fail.

  92. granadafan says: May 11, 2014 10:41 PM

    Dawg, Kiper and McShay said you’re a potential first round pick next year! You ain’t getting paid (legally) so you gots to go pro!

    Like it or not those two draftniks at espn put the most research in and are the most influential. The vast majority of the other “experts” merely copy Kiper’s mock drafts and base all their evaluations on his lists. Fans are the worst who blast teams for saying that a player was “over drafted”. They have no clue what teams need or covet

  93. praetorian12 says: May 11, 2014 10:47 PM

    Responsible underclassmen request an evaluation directly from the NFL, not from Kiper, McShay or Florio, regarding their projections for an underclassmen. Those are not guarantees, it’s just information. I’m sure responsible underclassmen go in to the draft with their eyes wide open.

    And by the way, holding any prognosticator responsible for a mock draft rating 8 months before the draft is like lynching the weatherman for incorrectly predicting the weather on Christmas day.

  94. thetooloftools says: May 11, 2014 11:21 PM

    I say let the players play in the NCAA if they are not drafted.
    Problem solved.
    They go back to school.

  95. bornahawker says: May 12, 2014 12:05 AM

    NFL is like the lottery. Most lose. We are all adults here. Live with your choices. We always find new beginnings at endings. Canada, arena, drug dealing, prison, make better choices guys.

  96. campcouch says: May 12, 2014 12:58 AM

    it’s a job that doesn’t require a degree. If a guy thinks he can land a job in a limited workforce,let him try. If he can’t,then it’s time to find a new occupation and actually pay for college if he needs it.

  97. namaths5thofwhiskey says: May 12, 2014 1:15 AM

    Florio article with substance? Keep it coming Buddy!

  98. seadawgs72 says: May 12, 2014 2:16 AM

    What exactly are the credentials of guys like McShay & Kiper? These guys come out of the shadows once a year for 2 weeks to impart all their “wisdom & expertise” when, as far as i know neither have been employed by an NFL team in any capacity. The way i see it the mothership created these guys just like what seems to be their latest agenda as “starbuilders”. They pump athletes up, deserving or not, & when they fail they tear them down. I do not trust the info coming from the mothership anymore. Sportscenter is a strait forward sports news & highlight show. Not much to get wrong on a show like that but all their opinion shows with experts & analysts opinions i believe a lot of that is google journalism. Watch a few minutes of film in a guy & they think they’re qualified to make a definitive assessment of an athlete. Totally irresponsible journalism. Btw, retired players make some of the worst panels on a show & some are just absolutely unwatchable.

  99. uglydingo says: May 12, 2014 4:12 AM

    Purifoy, Richardson, Johnson and many others live for the rest of their lives with the cruel financial consequences of believing what McShay, Kiper and others, incorrectly predicted.
    They made the wrong decision and now have the challenge of trying to win roster spots as undrafted free agents. It can still be done but their chances are much slimmer and may involve playing in Canada.
    Tough way to learn a key life lesson not to believe what is predicted by the draft experts. There are no guarantees in life and the road to quick riches may be the McShay/Kiper Jr street to the ghetto.

  100. richardmswartz says: May 12, 2014 8:49 AM

    The real question is whether these underclassment can be educated on where to go to for good advice.

  101. ninetysixer says: May 12, 2014 9:09 AM

    so there is roughly 10,000 1a college scholarship players and about 250 get drafted, yet most still don’t take their education seriously. Nobody else sees a problem with this?

  102. rawbbqsauce says: May 12, 2014 10:34 AM

    axx1 says: May 11, 2014 2:24 PM

    ESPN is generally the most hated network among football fans.
    When will espn wake up and realize that their hidiously outdated sets are painful to look at???

    _______________________________

    The day their ratings trend in the wrong direction.

    Which will be never.

  103. murty77 says: May 12, 2014 4:00 PM

    Or maybe they didn’t get drafted because Purifoy and Johnson failed drug test. And Richardson has bad knees. Can’t blame the draft experts. Going into the season all three were deserving of being highly touted prospects. It was their own fault they weren’t mature enough to take advantage of it (although Richardson’s situation was more unfortunate than anything he did). No reason to throw draft experts under the bus for doing their job.

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