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Dolphins hope their offense this year will be like Philly’s last year

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New Dolphins offensive coordinator Bill Lazor spent last season as the quarterbacks coach in Philadelphia, and at least one player in Miami says Dolphins fans should expect to see a Chip Kelly-style offense.

A Dolphins player, who asked not to be named as the team keeps some of its offensive plans under wraps, told the Miami Herald that the schemes are like the ones the Eagles ran last year.

“It’s reminiscent of Chip Kelly’s offense in Philadelphia, with the tempo and style,” the player said. “There are some West Coast offense concepts. Some shotgun, some under center. They’ve discussed having both no huddle and huddle. It’s fast tempo.”

If Lazor can do for Ryan Tannehill this year what he did for Nick Foles last year, he’ll be a very popular man in Miami.

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  1. barsfordays says: May 24, 2014 8:54 AM

    Bill Lazor isn’t Chip Kelly, and the Miami Dolphins aren’t the 2013 Eagles with Vick and DeSean and the boys. Miami’s offense will suck like usual

  2. Bmorelikeray52 says: May 24, 2014 8:55 AM

    Ha!

  3. dynaco says: May 24, 2014 8:56 AM

    Hope & change.

  4. rymexico says: May 24, 2014 8:59 AM

    All they need is an offensive genius for a coach, add warm water and Voila!
    Easy Right?

  5. pittsteelers101 says: May 24, 2014 9:00 AM

    It won’t happen

  6. dfco74 says: May 24, 2014 9:03 AM

    With that oline I think not. Maybe if they didn’t let their last all-promo lineman evan Mathis get away.

  7. dfco74 says: May 24, 2014 9:04 AM

    With that oline I think not. Maybe if they didn’t let their last all-pro lineman evan Mathis get away.

  8. robdolphins says: May 24, 2014 9:16 AM

    Dolphins have goals at least. All Jets want is to win at least 2 games a year as long as it is versus Miami. New Yorkers envy Miami that is why so many New Yorkers move to South Florida.

  9. dlw492 says: May 24, 2014 9:24 AM

    Listen, Miami basically has the same team as last year which could’ve went 12-4. They beat BB & Brady at home and should’ve in Foxboro. Not saving were gonna win the Super Bowl. But we WILL make the playoffs…….. If the NFL adds one more team :)

  10. jets13 says: May 24, 2014 9:24 AM

    Dolphins have goals at least. All Jets want is to win at least 2 games a year as long as it is versus Miami. New Yorkers envy Miami that is why so many New Yorkers move to South Florida.

    ———————————————-

    Ah, the dolphins have not won a playoff game since 2000.

    I wouldn’t be running my mouth.

  11. thehatefulnerd says: May 24, 2014 9:25 AM

    Chip Kelly is overrated. He’s got some trendy ideas, but they won’t last. WCO concepts are proven in the NFL, given the current passing-favorable rules. Chip Kelly wants to go to far with that. You need ToP.

  12. heisthejuan says: May 24, 2014 9:26 AM

    Should have kept his mouth shut. Now that Pats will be preparing for a Week 1 track meet in Miami. If that tempo had come as surprise in the south Florida, the Patriots might have been in trouble. Now not so much.

  13. igotgamenj says: May 24, 2014 9:28 AM

    Miami beat the Pats,Pitt, Cinci ,Chargers,Colts, and lost 3 games by 3 points and 1 game by 4 points with one of the worst O lines to ever play the game (58 SACKS) and plus the Martin mess that was on every TV channel in America 24/7.This team will be night and day from last year.Can’t wait for NE to play us on Opening day at 1 pm (first home opener in 6 years at 1pm in Miami ) 100 deg temperature and a brand new O that they never seen..wild cat ring a bell Pats fans

  14. kitibo says: May 24, 2014 9:30 AM

    What is being missed is that it will never happen until the Dolphins improve their Offensive Line. The Eagles have two Pro Bowl linemen in Mathis and Peters and one on the way with Lane Johnson. Until that is addressed, the Fish will be worrying about whether Tannehill will last the season

  15. Wisconsin77 says: May 24, 2014 9:35 AM

    I am still dropping TannonBOMB from my keeper league. Miami’s offense will always suck.

  16. orthomarine says: May 24, 2014 9:35 AM

    I see a lot of balance

  17. zoxitic says: May 24, 2014 9:40 AM

    and I want a toilet seat made out of 24 karat gold but it just aint in the cards baby

  18. ncphinsfan says: May 24, 2014 9:45 AM

    It is too nice a Weekend to get into words with mental midgets, but if the Dolphins can emulate ANY Team with a Top 10 Offense, I will be happy and my Fins can go back to the perennial Winner they were prior to the last 11 years. Honestly, Philly is not all that anyway. Teams show up with something new and the Defenses eventually figure it out. Wildcat, Chip Kelly, RG3. It takes balance to win it all. Denver and New England learned this watching the Seahawks. No, I just want the Dolphins to stay out of scandals and fill position holes. We are on our way to that.

  19. rutledge3197 says: May 24, 2014 9:50 AM

    Idiot Jets fans….. Blah blah blah…. Worst team in the city

  20. jaybirds95 says: May 24, 2014 9:51 AM

    thehatefulnerd says:
    May 24, 2014 9:25 AM
    Chip Kelly is overrated. He’s got some trendy ideas, but they won’t last. WCO concepts are proven in the NFL, given the current passing-favorable rules. Chip Kelly wants to go to far with that. You need ToP.

    ___________________________________

    So Nerd, my guess is you have some jealousy about how good Kelly is. Maybe you’re a fan of another NFC East team, I don’t know. Why don’t you enlighten everybody on here and tell us what trendy ideas Kelly has that won’t last. I mean the Eagles only had the best offense in the league last season other than the Broncos.

  21. mad55555 says: May 24, 2014 9:55 AM

    who is miami’s RB? They do not have the players to run a chip kelly’s Offense

  22. myworldurjuslivinit says: May 24, 2014 9:55 AM

    what the heck? one that lost in first round…seriously why would anybody want to be like Philly any year?

  23. voiceofreasonays says: May 24, 2014 10:05 AM

    Beagles= overrated as hell. Dolphins will own the AFC East once Brady Boy retires.

  24. janvanflac says: May 24, 2014 10:06 AM

    wait, I thought CKs offense was a gimmick and wouldn’t work in the NFL? I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

  25. igotgamenj says: May 24, 2014 10:09 AM

    kitibo says:The Eagles have two Pro Bowl linemen in Mathis and Peters ..

    Miami also has 2 Pro Bowl linemen Branden Albert and Mike Pouncey and addressed the O line in the Draft and free agency

  26. scmems07 says: May 24, 2014 10:11 AM

    should be in the top 10 in offense, miami is better at every position except RB than philly and is on par with the O line now that they also have 2 pro bowl linemen with pouncy and albert and “one on the way” with james, there is not much comp in the east now that miami has a better o line to control the pass rush and a coordinator who will game plan around the opponent and not just use a default offense like sherman. had the pats beat in both games last year but sherman panicked in game one with a 2 td lead. just got to get by the pats, easier said than done, jets are still a circus with no qb but the bills are getting better.

  27. uglydingo says: May 24, 2014 10:18 AM

    The Dolphins are well placed to be very competitive this year. Despite an awful O-line that allowed a league high 58 sacks (as well as bullygate fiasco), Tannehill still threw for more yards than Luck (check the numbers, 3913 vs 3822). If the O-line is solid, Tannehill is set to take his game to the next level.
    Lazor helped to develop Nick Foles last year. There is no reason why he can’t improve Tannehill. They also drafted a very tough, physical WR in Jarvis Landry as an additional weapon.
    People will laugh but Miami is flying under the radar.

  28. cunninghampeetemcnabbvick says: May 24, 2014 10:21 AM

    Bill Lazor was a good first step but they still need an entire stable of RB’s, multiple TE’s, WR’s that can beat man-press, a world class offensive line and Tannehill to play as good as Peyton Manning. If they can do all that in training camp, then yeah, they’ll be just like the Eagles offense.

  29. beachsidejames says: May 24, 2014 10:24 AM

    Fins had a golden opportunity to make the playoffs last year and blew it. They have many needs and team leadership is one of them. Coaches are important (Lazor) but players must execute.

  30. promickey says: May 24, 2014 10:27 AM

    Lazor is a bright young coach but sometimes it’s not about the system or coaching. Players still need the appropriate skills to make the system and plan work. Tannehill has a major flaw in that he is not an accurate passer. WR Mike Wallace could not be hit wide open down the sideline last season even with time to throw. T-hill may not be any more than a backup QB just like Henne. It’s sad to say but at this level after being the 8th pick in the draft a QB has to be accurate or the system and plan just will not work. This season will let us know if Tannehill was a huge reach in the draft at QB.

  31. phinfan says: May 24, 2014 10:28 AM

    Ok I can see some similarities: foles/tannehill, celek/clay, deshaun/wallace, Riley/hartline. But deshaun caught better than wallace and moreno is no mccoy

  32. 505c says: May 24, 2014 10:32 AM

    I don’t believe ANY football fan “envies” Miami. Or Jacksonville for that matter. Or Tampa Bay.
    Wow.
    For a state that produces some legit NFL talent( regardless of whether they play college in Florida ), Florida sure does have teh suck.

  33. getitrightflorio says: May 24, 2014 10:34 AM

    Can someone please explain Dolphins fans obsession with the Jets. I live in south Fl and anytime there is a negative report about the dolphins some fin fan has to bring up the Jets, Why? It happens on all the radios stations and even here, its laughable. The Jets are obsessed with the patriots not the dolphins, the dolphins should concentrate on the Pats not the Jets, maybe that’s why the haven’t made the playoffs in a long time.. Oh and the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs last year.

  34. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: May 24, 2014 10:34 AM

    Major Distinction: Philly’s OLs are soooo much better than what Miami has cobbled together.

    One must not ever underestimate the value of the wide bodies in the trenches – or do so at their own peril.

  35. scmems07 says: May 24, 2014 10:42 AM

    getitrightflorio

    we make fun of the jets because its fun…..and just so easy. so there is your answer. any more questions?

  36. eaglesfan290 says: May 24, 2014 10:43 AM

    What ever happened to taking pride in building something that you can call your own? I mean it’s one thing to hire a great coach, but clearly this was all about stealing someone else’s offense!

    Maybe the reason they have “Team Culture” problems in Miami is because no one is actually invested in anything “Miami”. I mean there is nothing about “Miami” football that scream this is what we stand for.

    That happens from the Owner down.

    Someone needs to have a vision of what they want, then hire a coach who will build a “Miami” organization. It’s front office, it philosophy, conditioning, it’s the type of players you draft and how you build. It’s a mentality and a pride……….clearly that is not there.

    Sad

  37. pinestein says: May 24, 2014 10:45 AM

    They hope to have an offense like the Eagles’ offense? Their favorite song must be ‘Dream on’.

  38. thelastpieceofcheese says: May 24, 2014 10:46 AM

    without Lechon McCoy…..

  39. hehateme2 says: May 24, 2014 10:47 AM

    jests fans are trolls…. nothing more. Remember 1969 guys. It’s all ya got!

  40. xpensivewinos says: May 24, 2014 10:57 AM

    So if Lazor is all the rage and they’re now running a Chip Kelly based offense, I’ll ask again, why in the hell is Joe Philbin still employed? He’s proven he’s an incompetent boob with zero leadership qualities and now they’re not even running the offense he was supposedly bringing with him from Green Bay (which everyone knew wouldn’t work because Aaron Rodgers wasn’t coming with him).

    Jeff Ireland 2.0

  41. raji1824 says: May 24, 2014 11:01 AM

    I am a Jets Fan. But I do think Fins are better this year.
    Every season there are teams that look good on paper but don’t do good on the field. If fins talent play as good as they are on paper, they are a solid contender for playoffs.

  42. nikopagkanlungan says: May 24, 2014 11:05 AM

    As a Fins fan… I’m not saying that he is Chip Kelly or that Lazor can do with Tannehill, what he did with Foles…

    But at least it gives us Fins fans hope! That’s all we can ask for!

  43. dynaco says: May 24, 2014 11:10 AM

    On average, Phins are notoriously bad in December. Fix that and they have a chance.

  44. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: May 24, 2014 11:12 AM

    Dolphin Fan denigrating Jets Fan is amusing. Both teams had their only big time success during the Nixon Administration.

    In other words, the vast majority of the fans to watch either the Jets or the Dolphins actually win a Super Bowl are either senior citizens or pushing up daisies.

  45. wallabear says: May 24, 2014 11:29 AM

    “Hope” starts with a quarterback (think Andrew Luck in Indy). Sadly, Miami ain’t got it. Well, they do, with their NBA team that should Three-Peat within several weeks from now :-)

  46. picksixx says: May 24, 2014 11:37 AM

    Miami is a good team. They were very close to making the playoffs last year which is probably better than most thought would happen under the circumstances. They got better in the offseason. If Tannehill and Wallace have better chemistry, they could surprise some people this year. Plus they have Moreno and an improved O-line…

  47. thestrategyexpert says: May 24, 2014 11:40 AM

    I’m trying to figure out why Ross is so happy. Does he realize his team hasn’t even broke .500 in the last 5 seasons, and what does he see in Tannehill that he loves so much?

  48. killthehead says: May 24, 2014 11:50 AM

    Didn’t Thad Lewis go 2-0 again Miami last year?

  49. killthehead says: May 24, 2014 11:51 AM

    against*

  50. steelerdeathstar says: May 24, 2014 12:26 PM

    That sort of assumes that Ryan Tannehill can accomplish what Nick Foles has. Thus far, Tannehill has not played nearly as well as Foles.
    Miami’s O-line is also, at least right now, rather unproven with all the turmoil and changover there since last season.
    Miami fans should very much take a wait and see attitude there…

  51. theguywhotoldtimtebowtoshutthefup says: May 24, 2014 12:29 PM

    jets13, losers talk about winning playoff games. When was the last time the Jets won a Super Bowl?

  52. shatho1 says: May 24, 2014 12:37 PM

    so they want to start out slow and scrappy and then finally get it together towards the end of the season to go 1 game better than .500. what a plan lol

  53. mackie66 says: May 24, 2014 12:39 PM

    Dolphins having an offense like the Eagles. Tannehill went 7-35 passing over 25 yds. Tannes owned a not so great 78 % QB rating. Thats with Mike Wallace. Hickey has drafted every small time college player he could get his hands on except one. Maybe? but I think maybe not. please remember Joe Philbin still doesn’t know what went on inside his own locker room with Martin, Incog, et al. So what’d he do he fired ONeil the best trainer in the NFL, why? Cause ONeil laughed at what he perceived was a joke and according to the Wells report, Well’s thought ONeil wasn’t being truthful. How Well;s reached that conclusion,,no one knows. Since no witness was under oath. Witch hunt. The Dolphins own a toxic front officer and back bitting is the order of the day. 2-14

  54. officialgame says: May 24, 2014 1:05 PM

    Lazor did a good job in Philly and much of his success in Miami will depend on how much support he gets from Philbin who was a West Coast guy. With Kelly the system goes far beyond X’s and O’s encompassing every aspect of play and how his players approach the game.

  55. macjacmccoy says: May 24, 2014 1:59 PM

    Its funny when people call Chip’s offense a gimmick but then cant name 1 gimmicky thing he does.

    The fact is Chip Kelly runs the exact same plays as every other coach in the league. What he does different is tempo and cadence . When people talk about his brand of football they arent talking about the plays he calls. They are talking about his approach to the game.

    How he prepares, how he makes his players prepare, how serious he is about training right, eating right, sleeping right, and practicing right. How much he uses analytics . How he’s basically the NFL version of Billy Beane.

    You could sit Chip Kelly’s playbook down next every other coaches in the league and not be able to tell the difference. So when you call his offense a gimmick you show how little you know and how much your opinions are based solely off of what you hear other people say. I know its counter intuitive but next time try actually observing the topic of your next conversation with your own eyes before giving your opinion.

  56. n0hopeleft says: May 24, 2014 2:12 PM

    Wait… so they want to win their division and be eliminated a week later?

    No one should model the Eagles. They’ve failed for 60 years +

  57. robdolphins says: May 24, 2014 2:15 PM

    Can someone please explain Dolphins fans obsession with the Jets. I live in south Fl and anytime there is a negative report about the dolphins some fin fan has to bring up the Jets, Why? It happens on all the radios stations and even here, its laughable. The Jets are obsessed with the patriots not the dolphins, the dolphins should concentrate on the Pats not the Jets, maybe that’s why the haven’t made the playoffs in a long time.. Oh and the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs last year.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    HMMM…Jets fans commenting on a Dolphins related post. You have it wrong buddy. Jets fans obsessed are with Dolphins. Just by tithe mere fact they choose to live in Florida shows their obsession with Miami Dolphins. I will not even click on a Jets post. 1972 !!

  58. finfanjim says: May 24, 2014 2:34 PM

    As a Fins fan, I have come to accept failure often.

    HOWEVER, I would warn those who think Miami as a low tier team to examine last year. With an atrocious OL, a bad OC and a pummeled Tannehill, Miami was 8-6 and sitting pretty for the playoffs.

    Miami hasn’t lost much this off-season. They’ve added with Albert, Smith, 1st round pick James. Knowshown Moreno was good before Manning got to Denver and is not a castaway. Finnegan and Delmas are low risk, high reward additions.

    This Dolphins team beat almost every AFC team that made the playoffs last year. There is potential there.

  59. pats777 says: May 24, 2014 4:26 PM

    All I can say is Mr Wallace better earn every penny of his $15 million fully guaranteed salary this season, yikes.

  60. jay74x says: May 24, 2014 5:03 PM

    You have to have an O-Line to run the offense Philly did.

  61. cunninghampeetemcnabbvick says: May 24, 2014 5:21 PM

    It’ll be similar in the way that a Fiero is similar to a Ferrari.

  62. gregoryp3234 says: May 24, 2014 5:47 PM

    How many of you people thought nick foles would even play last year let alone play well? the answer is zero! all you jokers think you are NFL experts. Its laughable. I for one, who watched every dolphin game last year, think that tannehill played pretty well last year. there is no reason he can’t be a top tier QB in the NFL. What a lot of you don’t know, is that mike sherman ran THE MOST predictable offense in NFL history last year. I mean, he used the same cadence every play. I mean, come on. Lazor will do wonders for the Dolphins and Tannehill. Oh yeah, the NFL is fixed by the way. If you think that it isn’t, you’re not paying close enough attention and you have no clue what you are watching. Its laughable how bad “they” are fixing games, and the masses are just lapping it up. I love you people and you’re “matter of fact” opinions about a sport that is comparable to the WWE.

  63. jrcoop says: May 24, 2014 6:11 PM

    With Lazor as his coach, Foles went from a 79.1 passer rating in 2012 to 119.2 in 2013. Tannehill threw for a about 1100 more yards than Foles in 2013, but had an 81,7 PR. If Lazor can do what he did with Foles with Tannehill, that could have the biggest impact for the Dolphins offense.

    Other than that, off season acquisitions to improve pass protection, O-line and RB, should also help Tannehill improve his rating. Considering all that happened last year, there’s reason for optimism this year.

  64. eaglesfan290 says: May 24, 2014 6:52 PM

    jrcoop says:

    May 24, 2014 6:11 PM
    With Lazor as his coach, Foles went from a 79.1 passer rating in 2012 to 119.2 in 2013. Tannehill threw for a about 1100 more yards than Foles in 2013, but had an 81,7 PR. If Lazor can do what he did with Foles with Tannehill, that could have the biggest impact for the Dolphins offense.

    Other than that, off season acquisitions to improve pass protection, O-line and RB, should also help Tannehill improve his rating. Considering all that happened last year, there’s reason for optimism this year.
    ____________________________________

    Keep drinking the Cool Aid jrcoop do you really think that was Lazor or Kelly that made Foles look like a Rockstar?

    I will give you a hint if Ross actually thought it was Lazor you would have a new Head Coach!

  65. realfootballfan says: May 24, 2014 7:01 PM

    It might be better since Chip’s offense has flaws, and Lazor is a more traditional NFL type of guy who helped Kelly’s terminology translate to the NFL players. Don’t sleep on this guy as a rising star.

  66. djscottyb says: May 24, 2014 7:43 PM

    1st – the Jets make it easy to hate on them. Sparano as OC ?
    Rex getting a Mark Sanchez tattoo? Butt Fumble? Lol

    2nd – nothing wrong with going for a flashy offense.
    We picked up some skill players & the new OL has 3 solid pieces to build on. Lazor is a smart man from a system that helps players succeed – regardless if it Chimp Kelly, UVa or other influences.
    Can’t be worse than predictable Sparano or Sherman.

  67. o0omorriso0o says: May 25, 2014 1:02 AM

    LOL to the people dissing Kelly and the Eagles…lol Its like every sports fan is an idiot…lol Yea we have not won a SB yet. Hows that Kellys fault? He was here for 1 year and took a 4 win team to the playoffs and nearly beat the Saints.

    There is so much turnover from year to year that you cant compare teams just because they have not won a SB lol. I truly believe Kelly is gonna be very successful in this league and all of you are just gonna have to deal with it

  68. eaglomaniac says: May 25, 2014 1:30 AM

    And all along I heard fan bases from everywhere making statement’s like….”His offense won’t work”,…… “He will fail miserably”….. or my favoraite…..”He’ll be out of the NFL in one season and will be running back to the College ranks”.
    Well Fellas, time to give ole Chip Kelly some props and also about time for some of you haters to break out that humble pie. HA!

  69. richardmswartz says: May 25, 2014 5:23 PM

    Alot of the haters also don’t seem to understand that Kelly’s offense is based on a power-running game. Sure it’s often with 3 wide receivers, or a 2nd tight end split out and yes it often has zone reads for the quarterback. Still though, it’s based off of the inside zone read which ends up in your standard dive play most of the time. What’s so gimmicky about hard-nosed running with a great offensive line?

    Also for the phins fans, that is what you need to understand – that’s what this offense is. And good for you adopting it becasue it isn’t going anywhere. Youtube the Oregon offense tutorials if you won’t to learn more about the offense. It’s not the same thing as Kelly runs with the Eagles but it is a good start to learn about what your offense will look like.

  70. sumkat says: May 26, 2014 9:23 AM

    Anyone that thinks Miami’s line is even in the same discussion as the Eagles should never speak about football again. Alberts in the same breath as Peters? In what universe? I’ll give you Pouncey/Mathis, but that’s not saying much since they don’t play the same position (and I’d take Kelce over Pouncey every day of the week). Besides, Pouncey and Alberts are Pro-Bowlers. Mathis and Peters are All-Pros. There is a difference

    Add into that Lane Johnson is better than anyone on their line, and Herrimans is as good, it’s not even a discussion.

    That doesn’t even get into the fact that nobody on that roster is on the same planet as McCoy, Tannenhill is trash, and nowhere near as good as Foles, or that our backup TE is better than Miami’s starter.

    But I guess their receivers could be about even now that Jackson is gone.

  71. mail2bency says: May 27, 2014 2:37 PM

    This is eerily reminiscent of when Andy Reid wanted to mimic Miami’s Wildcat scheme.

    Sheep see, Sheep do.

  72. b3nz0z says: May 27, 2014 2:59 PM

    people who compare Kelly’s offensive philosophy to the wildcat, or to the shanahan-style read option, or whatever other trend they saw on sunday night football, are outing themselves as having not paid enough attention to what Kelly does. please explain which part of his philosophy is a gimmick – simplicity, spreading the field, exploiting matchups, zone blocking, or adjusting plays at the line. because those are all pretty well-established aspects of pro offense. maybe it’s time to admit that his offense scares you?

  73. jrcoop says: May 27, 2014 11:44 PM

    eaglesfan290 said:

    “Keep drinking the Cool Aid jrcoop do you really think that was Lazor or Kelly that made Foles look like a Rockstar? ”

    ————————————————————–
    Actually it was Kelly and the Philly press that gave Lazor the credit. I’m just providing the statistical evidence. Foles wasn’t even as good as Tannehill prior to Lazor becoming his position coach. Besides, why are you so concerned about the Dolphins coaching staff.

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