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Adrian Hubbard thought he’d go in Rounds 2-4, went undrafted

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Adrian Hubbard is with the Packers right now as an undrafted free agent, just hoping to earn a spot on the roster. That’s not how he thought it would play out.

Hubbard told the Green Bay Press-Gazette that when he decided to leave Alabama despite having another year of NCAA eligibility, he had been told by the NFL draft advisory board that he projected as a second-, third- or fourth-round pick.

But that’s not how it played out. His medical checkup at the Scouting Combine revealed a minor heart abnormality, and although Hubbard is cleared to play, that might have worried some teams. There were also reports that teams had issues with Hubbard’s personality and work ethic. Hubbard says that whatever the reasons for his draft stock falling, he’s just focused on getting to work for the Packers.

“I’m not worried about it,” Hubbard said. “I come here to compete just like everyone else here.”

Ultimately, Hubbard’s case is a reminder that there are no guarantees when a player decides to leave school in January that he’ll be drafted in May. His situation might scare off other players from leaving school early, but then again, even if he makes the Packers’ roster at the NFL-minimum salary, that’s a whole lot more money than he would have made if he had spent another year in the NCAA.

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52 Responses to “Adrian Hubbard thought he’d go in Rounds 2-4, went undrafted”
  1. stellarperformance says: May 25, 2014 7:04 AM

    It’s not unusual for a college kid to believe he’s better than professional scouts believe him to be. I hope it was because of the heart issue….which may be nothing at all. His draft analysis mentioned his high opinion of himself….last year. If he matures, maybe there is something there. He has many pro traits, by high edge speed is not one of them. Very long arms, 6’6″, 39″ vertical. We’ll see. Let’s hope for a diamond in the rough.

  2. restorativejusticeprogram says: May 25, 2014 7:18 AM

    Why should you not be able to go back to college if you enter the draft? The NCAA system is just so incredibly exploitative.

  3. countyk66ers says: May 25, 2014 7:22 AM

    His pay is less but his chance to earn a roster spot is the same.

  4. jmason100 says: May 25, 2014 7:30 AM

    And the money he’ll lose over a lifetime of not having his degree will dwarf the money he makes this year as an undrafted free agent.

    Stay in school, get your degree. I’m tired of the argument that these players are being used by the school which is insinuated in this post. Most college players will not play in the NFL.

    My daughter’s education came in at 120,000 and we’re paying every penny. The student athletes at her school received many benefits she wasn’t afforded.

    If they feel so used they shouldn’t play the game.

  5. joetoronto says: May 25, 2014 7:38 AM

    “His medical checkup at the Scouting Combine revealed a minor heart abnormality, and although Hubbard is cleared to play, that might have worried some teams. There were also reports that teams had issues with Hubbard’s personality and work ethic.”

    If he wants to find out why, he needs to look in the mirror to find the answer.

  6. shackdelrio says: May 25, 2014 7:40 AM

    Tom Savage was called a second round potential pick the day of the draft. The truth is nobody knows.

  7. huskerguy says: May 25, 2014 7:40 AM

    “that’s a whole lot more money than he would have made if he had spent another year in the NCAA.”

    Doubt it.

  8. picksixx says: May 25, 2014 8:17 AM

    It sounds like he has the right attitude from his quote.

  9. 46dee says: May 25, 2014 8:18 AM

    These draft boards and draft/talent gurus really don’t do some if these kids any favors.

  10. bunchofstooges says: May 25, 2014 8:32 AM

    I’m thinking he’s taking a pay cut by leaving Alabama.

  11. aurelh23 says: May 25, 2014 8:36 AM

    He’s gonna make a lot less this year with the Packers than he would have made at Alabama for his senior season.

  12. dhardy8207 says: May 25, 2014 8:37 AM

    Nick Saban has hinted at the idea of college teams being allowed to have a pretrial before the NFL combine where college players can compete against each other and get a sense of where they measure up. This would help them make the decision regarding applying for the draft or staying that last year.

    He might actually do well at the packers because he would be in the company of Eddie Lacy and Ha Ha Clinton Dix. Nevertheless he was a good player for BAMA and I wish him all the best.

  13. primenumber19 says: May 25, 2014 8:44 AM

    If they keep delaying the draft, I’m giving up on the nfl and going back to the nba

  14. packhawk04 says: May 25, 2014 9:05 AM

    Wait…. from what ive read on this site, this HAS to be todd mcshays fault for early mock drafts. It just has to be.

  15. lostsok says: May 25, 2014 9:07 AM

    It’s always a crapshoot when a player trusts the advisory board. In a draft this deep, that’s even more true.

    Add that this year more teams seemed to value character, leadership and production…and you saw a lot of kids who played 3-4 years instead of higher graded pure talent that red-shirted or sat behind other high-rated talent…and then left school early. (Consider Kouandijo had about half the starts of JuWan James.)

    A lot of Alabama kids slid this year.

  16. buckifan4life says: May 25, 2014 9:24 AM

    Sue the NFL, it must be there fault somehow…

  17. lionhunter909 says: May 25, 2014 9:29 AM

    It seems to me that a lot of these young men who declare their eligibility after junior year are being misled by agents and others that they are NFL ready or will be drafted when there is little or no chance of it happening. When they don’t get drafted then they are left hanging, with no college degree and little chance of making an NFL roster. The great majority then should stay in school and pursue a degree so they will be better prepared for life.

    Simple math will tell any of these guys that there are only gong to be 225-240 players drafted, most of them seniors with no NCAA eligibility left. How many juniors quit school this year and declared eligibility? I don’t know the number but it was several dozen for sure.

    This is really scandalous in my opinion. The NFL should step in and put an end to this kind of exploitation, especially by agents.

  18. sterling7 says: May 25, 2014 9:38 AM

    When are these guys going to start thinking for themselves?

  19. Matt dog from C-town says: May 25, 2014 9:51 AM

    a lot of, these guys jump early because they can”t , because there’s not much time for a second job.

  20. Matt dog from C-town says: May 25, 2014 9:53 AM

    a lot of, these guys jump early because they can”t handle the classes required and they have hardly any money, because there’s not much time for a second job with football and classes…

  21. shoeflypie says: May 25, 2014 9:53 AM

    Unfortunately, too many semi-pro athletes (college team members) list as their major areas which don’t really translate into employable skills or have few decent paying jobs.

  22. thraiderskin says: May 25, 2014 9:54 AM

    Yeah, I don’t feel bad for these guys, things happen, stuff changes, sorry the crap shoot that is the NFL Draft process wasn’t more predictable. When you make the decision to go pro, there are multiple steps you take that the NCAA simply can’t let you come back to school after. The NCAA bungles a lot, but once a kid engages an agent, many times taking out loans from that agent, he is completely beyond return. I find it great that so many people love to spout off against a popular target like the NCAA, but are completely blind to the slippery slope they think should be created.

  23. tonyc920 says: May 25, 2014 9:55 AM

    Why wouldn’t the NCAA offer early entry college players the opportunity to re enter school ? If they don’t hire an agent and don’t get drafted, where’s the harm ?
    The NCAA and NFL supposedly encourage these kids to finish their education and by allowing them to test the waters, if things don’t work out they can still better themselves by staying in school.

  24. socalcharger says: May 25, 2014 9:58 AM

    Underclassmen who declare for the draft hire an agent. The agent then fronts them thousands of dollars so they can train for the combine. Lose/gain weight, shave time, get more explosive and learn the drills. You lose your amateur status once you sign with an agent and take that money.

    So he had a mid round grade based off of talent but went undrafted due to medical/character questions. Who’s fault is that? The player? The draft advisory board? The agent or people around the player who told him to declare early? The media for putting him on a mock draft? Alabama for making him think practice was the pros?

    How about he (and his agent) took a risk and it didn’t work out. Happens every year. Did the draft advisory board incorrectly advise too many kids to leave early? More than most years? Now that would be an interesting story. But no, it’s easier to blame Todd mcshay and the big bad NCAA. No investigative work/analysis required to do that.

  25. whatjusthapped says: May 25, 2014 10:00 AM

    If he is as good as he thinks he is, he will have a chance not only to make the Packers, he could very well start at ILB.

    AJ Hawk and Brad Jones aren’t exactly setting the world on fire so a playmaker with his size and speed will see the field if his production is anywhere near the level of his so called potential.

  26. bartlettruss says: May 25, 2014 10:00 AM

    I agree that a college diploma is extremely valuable, but staying in school for 4 years doesn’t guarantee you that diploma. Also, a Bachelors in basket-weaving has limited potential… I do agree though that entering the draft should not prevent one from going back on scholarship if the student is not drafted.

  27. mackie66 says: May 25, 2014 10:09 AM

    Michael Sam thought the same thing,,,Its all about talent,,,you got it or you don’t.

  28. 6thsense10 says: May 25, 2014 10:16 AM

    NFL minimum rookie salary is $285,000. Even if not drafted if Hubbard makes the team he would have earned a lot more than if he went back to school and he would have earn a lot more than most every college grad with the very real opportunity to become a multi millionaire. The NCAA is exploitive even if there are posters here telling sob stories about paying $125,000 to educate their children. In a free market in which NCAA conferences demand multi million dollar contracts football players would be compensated a hell of a lot more than they are now. If capping pay at tuition room and board when it could potentially be over a million dollars isn’t exploitive than you and I have a different definition for the word.

  29. gcreal13 says: May 25, 2014 10:32 AM

    To the ones talking about Adrian needing his degree, he did graduate with his degree. He was a redshirt junior so he was at Bama for 4 years and graduated and finished his degree in December. As Bama fan I wish him well.

  30. simplec72 says: May 25, 2014 10:35 AM

    Imagine how much heart he’ll have now after going I drafted. I hope he does not even make the team.

  31. PriorKnowledge says: May 25, 2014 10:41 AM

    Can anyone explain why if a player enters the draft and does not get drafted he still loses his NCAA eligibility? Why do they have to make this an “either-or” situation? That is not fair. I do not see any reasonable explanation for making that decision a crap shoot?

  32. thestrategyexpert says: May 25, 2014 10:43 AM

    Well it would help if the NFL could get better people for the advisory board that weren’t so wrong so very often on some of these prospects. If you aren’t really that sure a player will go high, then just give them a more conservative projection. They should have a scoring system internally and be quick about firing those that aren’t accurate.

  33. raiderman81 says: May 25, 2014 10:48 AM

    Who is adrian hubbard?

  34. socalcharger says: May 25, 2014 10:59 AM

    Let’s do some math to see how many millionaires a free market college football would make. According to Forbes, the most financially successful conference in 2012 was the Big 10 raking in $310 Million. With 12 schools and 85 scholarship players each, if 100% of the revenue went to each scholarship player, they would get $304k each. Throw in an extra 40 walkons and each player gets $207k. This is the most financially successful conference.

    Now let’s look at another conference, the WAC. In 2012, the conference made $10 million with 7 teams and 85 scholarship players. Each scholarship player gets $17k, include walkons and it’s $12k.

    We all know the players would only get a fraction of that. Throw in title IX and it’s much less than tuition.

  35. bornahawker says: May 25, 2014 11:01 AM

    Next years crop of underclassmen take note. One and done is reality if you step out on the ledge. NFLDL means more to the future than NCAA.

  36. longtimefanhtr says: May 25, 2014 11:06 AM

    Another brilliant coup by Ted.

  37. judsonjr says: May 25, 2014 11:54 AM

    Does the draft advisory board actually account for the number of players they slot in the draft? There can only be 60 some 3rd-4th rounders, if they are giving 80 or 90 players that grade, there’s a problem.

  38. dhardy8207 says: May 25, 2014 11:56 AM

    You know its so easy to spout off without knowing the facts… For all those that didn’t do “a little investigative work/research” before commenting; Hubbard has his degree from BAMA a BSN in Business/Finance not “basketweaving”…

  39. madroaddog says: May 25, 2014 12:17 PM

    Just never can fathom why a college player with potential NFL would go through school with a poor attitude and bad work ethic when he knows it will cost him millions of dollars. The pay is so good that even one contract will set you up for life. Not making the team leaves him with the rest of us struggling to make it.

  40. flyerincowtown says: May 25, 2014 12:31 PM

    Maybe it’s a big conspiracy. These draft experts tell any and as many of these kids that they will be drafted. When they are not, then the NFL has a large supply of cheap, over the barrel workers. So when the NCAA is done “exploiting” these poor boys, then the NFL can. So sad, so so sad, LOL

  41. kayakattack says: May 25, 2014 1:20 PM

    You can go back to college if you don’t get drafted (you just wont be playing football) however your scholarship is void because now that money is going to be used toward other recruits.. its a fair rule really. Once you leave, you are done.

  42. bobzilla1001 says: May 25, 2014 1:24 PM

    I’ve been watching the “America’s Game” marathon on NFLN, and I’m surprised by how many of the great teams of the ’70s — Steelers, Raiders and Dolphins — had valuable undrafted free agents on their rosters. Making matters even more interesting was that back then drafts lasted 16 rounds; yet plenty of quality players were found via undrafted free agency.
    Where are those types of UFA players today, in the seven-round draft era?

  43. donovandancy says: May 25, 2014 1:49 PM

    Just another fool who doesn’t understand what the projected grade is. It’s not where he will PROBABLY go in the draft, it’s how talented he is compared to the draft stock.
    He was slated to go late in the 3rd, but POSSIBLY could have gone in the second . . . or fallen to the 4th. The second he heard anything but a “2nd round” grade, he should have gone back to school. Every year more players get round grades than there are picks available for them, those extra players who dont get drafted in their round push the players below them lower.
    IF a player isn’t able or willing to listen to their coach, and people who care about them telling them to stay, then they are fools and deserve what they get. There are always those players who are forced to go too early. THOSE are the people who deserve pity, but those player have to go anyway.

    Maybe next year the sports media will be responsible and remind younger players what happened this year to the players who left early. Or maybe they will just keep with the same strategy of overhyping underclassmen, encouraging to leap early, then whining about it on the CFT twitter account that “these poor babies can’t get a chance to go back to school because of the big bad ncaa”

  44. bostoncommon says: May 25, 2014 1:56 PM

    There should be a word other than “scholarship” to describe how these guys get their free ride through the basketweaving. Somehow there’s a little dissonance there….

  45. rolltide510 says: May 25, 2014 2:30 PM

    Adrian Hubbard redshirted and was in school four years and got his degree. I don’t get why not coming back for your fifth year is considered “leaving early”.

    Also, while I love all the kids who put on a crimson jersey for Alabama, I’m not sure why he thought he was going in rounds 2-4. Tremendous measurables, not much production.

  46. tangysizzl says: May 25, 2014 4:04 PM

    Nearly every year GB has 1 or 2 UDFAs that make the 53 man roster, this year that number could climb to 3.

    RB Rajion Neal
    OLB Adrian Hubbard
    TE Colt Lyerla

    All 3 of those guys are more talented then their undrafted status would suggest.

  47. jeremycrowhurst says: May 25, 2014 5:42 PM

    The advisory board doesn’t tell anyone “2nd to 4th round”. It’s very well-defined: could go top five, could go top fifteen, could go first round. Then it’s all “will go no higher than…” Second, fourth, sixth round.

    The guy DIDN’T listen to what they told him.

  48. crownofthehelmet says: May 25, 2014 6:25 PM

    Let’s see, he thought he was 2nd rd talent but in actuality not good enough to be drafted. Sounds like a perfect fit for an overrated team. 8-8-1 dynasty in the making.

  49. Josh Sanchez says: May 25, 2014 7:39 PM

    He had already graduated. He didn’t need to go back to school.

  50. skbryant32 says: May 25, 2014 8:12 PM

    ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, JMASON! I don’t feel that schools take advantage of the students…the students are given a free ride, after all…I think that the $120 k, roughly, that they are given is pretty good compensation for playing a game….

  51. axespray says: May 25, 2014 9:53 PM

    crownofthehelmet says:
    May 25, 2014 6:25 PM
    Let’s see, he thought he was 2nd rd talent but in actuality not good enough to be drafted. Sounds like a perfect fit for an overrated team. 8-8-1 dynasty in the making.
    —————————-
    Remember when an 8-8 team led by Tebow lit up the steeler’s trash defense.

    Labeau’s D pads it’s stats against the browns, Flacco, and bengals twice a year.

  52. crownofthehelmet says: May 26, 2014 12:25 PM

    “Labeau’s D pads it’s stats against the browns, Flacco, and bengals twice a year.”

    Said the fan of a team in a division with the Vikings and Lions. Brilliant.

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