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Chiefs rookie camp was “pretty physical,” despite CBA limitations

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Before the 2011 CBA was finalized, teams routinely disregarded the rule against contact in offseason workouts.  After the new labor deal arrived, teams seemed to pull back on the physicality in the offseason.  Or perhaps to be a lot more discreet about its existence.

At least one of the Chiefs’ rookies didn’t get the memo to be mum about the amount of hitting in the T-shirts-and-shorts (and helmets) sessions.

It is pretty physical, despite popular belief,” sixth-round guard Zach Fulton told reporters, via Terez Paylor of the Kansas City Star.  “It does get pretty physical down in the trenches. I’m still working on my hand placement and my footwork and things like that. It’s the fundamentals.”

Fulton also explained, via a transcript distributed by the team, that the camp consist of “a lot of guys working hard trying to prove themselves.”

Asked if he was surprised about the physicality, Fulton said it’s “[p]retty much what I thought.”

Regardless of what he thought, the rules are clear:  “No live contact is permitted.”  And regardless of the fact that Fulton exposed that contact is happening in Kansas City, the Chiefs surely aren’t the only team doing it.

The broader question is whether the NFLPA will try to put a stop to it, or whether the union will go along with the reality that football practice will always be football practice, regardless of whether football players are told not to play football.

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35 Responses to “Chiefs rookie camp was “pretty physical,” despite CBA limitations”
  1. raiders4lyfe17 says: May 27, 2014 12:23 AM

    Khalil Mack> Dee ford watch out chiefs we MAY be coming for u or San Diego

  2. thetooloftools says: May 27, 2014 12:24 AM

    It’s FOOTBALL. Sack UP you sissy man.

  3. sfm073 says: May 27, 2014 12:46 AM

    Unless you’re practicing the very basics or just working on plays it’s very hard to practice football without contact. Especially when you have a bunch of young guys trying to make the team.

  4. bannedfromchoirpractice says: May 27, 2014 12:47 AM

    Get freaking real. The collective bargaining agreement doesn’t say anything about pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker’s man during rookie camp.

    Now, during a regular season game, that would be a 15-yarder penalty for certain!

  5. patsarethegoat says: May 27, 2014 12:50 AM

    The CBA is a joke

  6. paulnoga says: May 27, 2014 12:58 AM

    An old war days saying was “10% of the people never get the message”
    Its true even now. The staff plan and explain everything, but a few never understand.

  7. lanman11 says: May 27, 2014 1:05 AM

    Outrageous! There should be massive fines! Docked draft picks! Suspensions! Oh my….

  8. u4iadman says: May 27, 2014 1:25 AM

    Thought they had rules for this?

    Back on the Brady comments, it is true he doesn’t practice in camp with the physicality of the elite QB’s throughout history. Shows up in the big losses in key playoffs and Super Bowls.

  9. micklegrande says: May 27, 2014 1:45 AM

    “Pretty physical” doesn’t necessarily mean contact. Getting in and out on your stance, using your hands, etc. and so on can be “physical” without actually touching someone else.

  10. daburgher says: May 27, 2014 1:55 AM

    A little wreckless to directly translate what he is saying into physical contact, maybe.? Even if there was some contact, that’s a rule when broken, everyone should look away, considering this isn’t baseball.

  11. ningenito78 says: May 27, 2014 2:07 AM

    If the NFLPA deems this as anything other than ‘football practice’ then the sport is in trouble.

  12. longsufferingkcfan says: May 27, 2014 2:32 AM

    The Chiefs only know how to play and practice at full speed and that’s why they win Super Bowls.

  13. bigj7769 says: May 27, 2014 2:55 AM


  14. deep64blue says: May 27, 2014 3:12 AM

    The limitations are stupid, these guys are being well paid to play football and they want to make the best impression they can, the NFLPA isn’t helping them with these restrictions!

  15. nickbrezzy says: May 27, 2014 3:53 AM

    Good its going to make them better in the long run im usually on the player side of things but this isn’t one of them they need to be more prepared for the hits and punishment they going take doing the season and plus its not like they haven’t did it all there lives any way

  16. sbc2556 says: May 27, 2014 4:08 AM

    Might as well put skirts on them at this juncture… these kids are getting soft!

  17. idolized1 says: May 27, 2014 4:31 AM

    Oh don’t worry, I’m sure when Roger hears that something got physical he will make sure he puts a stop to it immediately…


  18. mackie66 says: May 27, 2014 5:05 AM

    O’ Brother. Run and tell it. But then again you never played the game so how would you know what it takes to be a winner?

  19. jimthebuilder27 says: May 27, 2014 5:20 AM

    Remember a time when players were allowed to be, we’ll, men?

  20. pv1960 says: May 27, 2014 5:41 AM

    That Fat Slob Reid did the same in his 14 years in Philly. He is nothing more than an average head coach. Don’t get too excited Chief fans.

  21. igglesnut says: May 27, 2014 6:50 AM

    I think the way the Chiefs and other teams get around this is by not calling the sessions “live”. You can do walkthrough sessions that focus on the fundamentals of line play. Whether the intensity of these sesssions are beyond a typical walkthrough or not is probably subject to interpretation.

  22. lawyermalloy says: May 27, 2014 6:50 AM

    The Union will do nothing unless a “vested” member complains!

  23. wareagle1961 says: May 27, 2014 7:07 AM

    New year …. same drum beat ….

  24. phuriousjorge says: May 27, 2014 7:33 AM

    Doesn’t the NFL assign official narcs to each team to watch for violations?

  25. fubarry says: May 27, 2014 8:23 AM

    He played ball at Tennessee, he doesn’t know what physical is.

  26. realnflmaster says: May 27, 2014 8:43 AM

    You know the league is in bad shape and heading deep into the abyss when you can’t even have contact in PRACTICE anymore.

  27. jimmyt says: May 27, 2014 8:55 AM

    The new CBA worked well for good teams with a lot of veterans but it really messes with young teams. It will all even out over time but you can still see it has really hurt with development.

  28. orndorf2 says: May 27, 2014 9:28 AM

    “And regardless of the fact that Fulton exposed that contact is happening in Kansas City, the Chiefs surely aren’t the only team doing it.”

    It shouldn’t matter if other teams are doing it (remember, Saints & bounties?). The Chiefs should be punished by Gladiator Goodell. The rest of the league is awaiting swift justice as this will upset the competitive balance in the league. (sarcasm)- – – – all this football tattletale stuff is getting out of hand.

  29. shayeezy says: May 27, 2014 9:42 AM

    they aren’t wearing pads, so there is no contact in the sense of actual hitting or blocking. players on the line are pushing against eachother as they practice technique and hand placement, and things can still get physical there – don’t think there’s anything dubious or illegal about that.

  30. brianstevens0915 says: May 27, 2014 9:48 AM

    Notice all the injuries during the season now after the CBA. Because they aren’t in football shape

  31. myeaglescantwin says: May 27, 2014 9:56 AM

    Andy Reid loves competition.

    he’s going to draft 15 nobodies a year. Have one of the harshest camps the veterans have scene, and when the injuries pile up, the roster will start to crumble.

    Good luck with a 1st place schedule big red.
    that .300 winning percentage you have against good teams should serve the cheif’s well this year.
    Add to that, the fact they only beat one or two playoff teams last year, , , looking like more of the same.

  32. ghost26 says: May 27, 2014 11:15 AM

    Regardless of what he thought, the rules are clear: “No live contact is permitted.”

    Of all the things that the players wanted in the last CBA this actually hurts the game & themselves. It clearly leads to a more watered down product on the field (tackling for most teams has been atrocious the last few years) & it’s very possible that more injuries are occurring b/c of this. There’s being in shape & there’s being in ‘football shape’

    How can the HC be the boss if the players are in charge of practices & workout schedules???

  33. granadafan says: May 27, 2014 11:27 AM

    There are a bunch of guys desperate to make an impression on coaches and get a job to support their families. Of course they’re going to go all out.

  34. mrwalterisgod says: May 27, 2014 1:21 PM

    They’d be a 5th place team if they came to the NFC West.

  35. pocketcow says: May 27, 2014 1:50 PM

    I am surprised Andy hasn’t eaten all of the rookies yet.

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