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Browns said no to Hard Knocks

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Cross the Browns of the list of potential Hard Knocks subjects.

Browns coach Mike Pettine said that his team was asked if it would appear on the show and declined. Pettine noted that as a first-year head coach he has the right to say no, and that’s a right he wanted to exercise while he learns on the job.

“It was for the same reason we didn’t feel super comfortable having a camera in the draft room,” Pettine told the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “Let’s get through the first time, let’s get through the first year.”

Teams can refuse if they’ve done Hard Knocks in the last 10 years, if they’ve made the playoffs in either of the last two years, or if they have a new head coach. Pettine has been through Hard Knocks before as an assistant with the Jets, and he said it’s possible he might do it again as a head coach with the Browns. Just not this year.

“There are positives and negatives to doing it,” Pettine said. “It’s not something I would say we’d never do, partly because the league can make us do it.”

The Browns will have one of the most intriguing training camps in football this season, thanks to the arrival of Johnny Manziel. But Pettine said the Browns were first approached about it before the draft.

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54 Responses to “Browns said no to Hard Knocks”
  1. denverdude7 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:06 AM

    Who would want to watch the Browns anyway?

    It’s a slow-motion train wreck that in all probability won’t be stopping anytime soon.

  2. scoops1 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:08 AM

    Its OK…

    the NFL will just force you to do it next year

  3. 12strikes2 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:11 AM

    I think it will be the Cardinals.
    Bruce Arians as been so outspoken that Roger Goodell will have to show him who REALLY has the power.

  4. ctiggs says: Jun 9, 2014 11:12 AM

    Johnny Bust

  5. dublindemonszfl says: Jun 9, 2014 11:13 AM

    Hard knocks ruins football. go away.

  6. whoisedgy says: Jun 9, 2014 11:13 AM

    Lifelong Browns fan here. Liking very much the direction we are heading…so much that I bought season tickets last week! Gooooo Brownies!

  7. stillers213 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:14 AM

    Should have added one more zero on that bribe check Roger. We all wanted to witness this train wreck first hand.
    Too bad Hoyer will badly beat out Johnny for the starting gig anyway.

  8. scrp2 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:14 AM

    Browns won’t be required to do Hard Knocks next year as well since they will have a new coach.

  9. thestrategyexpert says: Jun 9, 2014 11:17 AM

    That’s fine, I’ll just fill out the suggestion box at the AT&T website and let them know that I would have liked to see Manziel’s offseason developments broadcast on TV and if they could please make stuff like that available in the future for players of interest that I want to pay money to watch what they do. Maybe they’ll make a business out of it some day.

  10. ballboy48 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:18 AM

    Smart

  11. denverdude7 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:19 AM

    whoisedgy says:
    Jun 9, 2014 11:13 AM
    Lifelong Browns fan here. Liking very much the direction we are heading…so much that I bought season tickets last week! Gooooo Brownies!

    ===================================

    Those tickets will be worth next to nothing by week 6.

    Tickets to the 2015 draft will be worth more because the Browns will have 2 Top 5 picks.

  12. stillers213 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:23 AM

    One thing I will say is that Browns fans show incredible support for this team despite how pathetic they have been in my lifetime. They are like the Cubs fans of the NFL. They are much more likeable than the new wave of Bengals fans.
    Kuddos to Browns fans – not so much for Browns’ ownership / mgmt. :(

  13. klutch14u says: Jun 9, 2014 11:23 AM

    I still say to just make it set so the Super Bowl winner from the previous season is the team in the series. It’ll always be known and an already poor team from the year before can’t blame the “distraction”. Besides, having the SB winner will bring the most interest, they’re the SB champs.

  14. gohawks7 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:23 AM

    All teams should be able to refuse without even having a reason.

  15. hehatemyfootballteam says: Jun 9, 2014 11:25 AM

    Browns won’t be required to do Hard Knocks next year cause they will make the playoffs.

  16. brettfavresmidget says: Jun 9, 2014 11:26 AM

    Johnny texted the folks at Hard Knocks and said, “come get me.”

  17. joemammy says: Jun 9, 2014 11:26 AM

    Give it to the Steelers. Prime-time comedy. And many of the scenes can be shot at a local retirement home.

  18. lukedunphysscienceproject says: Jun 9, 2014 11:28 AM

    That’s why they change coaches every year. Hard Knocks repellant.

  19. granadafan says: Jun 9, 2014 11:28 AM

    It’s clear no one wants to do this show. Greedy Goodell and the owners only see $ signs and not the welfare of the team.

  20. vincentvega513 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:32 AM

    The Cleveland Browns are getting better at being the most dangerous team year in, year out.. In June.

    They’ll be picking in the top 5 again by April.

  21. flaccoishermanmunster says: Jun 9, 2014 11:32 AM

    just buy the NFL ticket so you can watch the brownies hard knocks live… from September to December.

  22. qdog112 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:38 AM

    We’ll get a minute by minute account of Johnny Bieber, even if we don’t want it anyway. We don’t need Hard Knocks for that.

    He’s already got around-the-clock coverage.

  23. pillowporkers says: Jun 9, 2014 11:49 AM

    Never hurts to ask?

  24. urbusted2 says: Jun 9, 2014 11:49 AM

    Just a note. Season tickets for the Browns fans are always worth something. We support our team period. Every home game is a sell out. I can’t give any predictions regarding the offense, but the Browns will have an above average defense this coming season. I think they’ll be competitive.

  25. jtbaudendistel says: Jun 9, 2014 11:56 AM

    People who pretend to hate the show should just admit they have not seen it because they can’t afford the premium cable channels

  26. robertlseverson says: Jun 9, 2014 12:04 PM

    Although my team plays in the other conference, I honestly tell you, pft nation, that my AFC team is the Browns. Why?

    I loved the ill-fated Browns of the 80’s, when Bernie was QB and Marty was coach. I thought it terrible when Modell took the franchise to Baltimore, as he took the soul of the City too. When the NFL awarded a franchise to Cleveland, I loved the fact that the Dawg Pound would be back (only the Packets have such great fans)! The Browns are one of the great franchises, with ties to the NFL and their city that are indeed both historical and heartfelt.

    I have watched over the years and felt the chagrin and misery of the faithful. But whereas every change of ownership and management felt wrong somehow, the recent changes both at the top and on the field ring true.

    Browns vs. Packers in a year?

  27. govtminion says: Jun 9, 2014 12:04 PM

    “Thanks, but we have enough problems… and we really don’t want a bunch of cameras here when the FBI comes to raid the executive offices.”

  28. johnodocks says: Jun 9, 2014 12:11 PM

    The Factory of Sadness will lose its mystery and intrigue if you expose it to the world, like the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, flying saucers, and haunted houses.

  29. kahnsbushymustache says: Jun 9, 2014 12:13 PM

    We may not be able to watch them on HBO, but at least we’ll still be able to watch them on TMZ…

  30. coachbeck says: Jun 9, 2014 12:22 PM

    Why so people say the browns have great fans, etc. if the fans of Cleveland were so great why are they on their 3rd NFL franchise? Those “great” fans were so great they voted down a stadium for the ravens causing them to leave. They finally build a stadium to get their 3rd team.

    Fans aren’t that great. Plenty of blackouts in Cleveland. Calling them great fans is just window dressing, much like the progressives do on most things.

  31. dublindemonszfl says: Jun 9, 2014 12:22 PM

    Adrian Peterson said “NO” to Chuck Norris and survived!

  32. djshnooks says: Jun 9, 2014 12:25 PM

    It’s gonna be the Bills.

    It’s gonna be entertaining.

  33. GT says: Jun 9, 2014 12:26 PM

    Love…Hard…Knocks. I don’t care what team is in it, the Jets were my favorite, now let’s go get a goddam snack.

  34. Big Ant TV says: Jun 9, 2014 12:27 PM

    damn if it was my decision id SAY YESSS too hard knocks why more money and exposure for my cleveland browns something we need even though we havnt won much at all

  35. isphet71 says: Jun 9, 2014 12:27 PM

    Theoretically, any team that wanted out of HAVING to be on hard knocks could fire their HC for a day or a week, then re-hire him. Or “swap” the assistant HC with the HC in name only. Bam – New coach and we don’t have to be on the show!

  36. clashpoint says: Jun 9, 2014 12:28 PM

    Ugh somebody please say yes so my team is safe? The hard knocks jinx is far worse than the sports illustrated jinx. It’s the death knell for playoff hopes. Watch that poor team’s Vegas super bowl odds grow gargantuan in the days after it gets announced.

  37. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jun 9, 2014 12:31 PM

    The Browns drafted Manziel so interest in the team just went up a significant amount.

    While they may have the most dull uniforms in the NFL, they have the most exciting player in Manziel. Appearing on Hard Knocks is only a natural step. Should have done it.

  38. kamthechancellor says: Jun 9, 2014 12:37 PM

    The St. Louis Sams will do it.

  39. coonsqualler says: Jun 9, 2014 12:37 PM

    denverdude7 says:
    Jun 9, 2014 11:06 AM

    Who would want to watch the Browns anyway?
    ———————————————————-
    denverdude7 says:
    Jun 9, 2014 11:19 AM

    Those tickets will be worth next to nothing by week 6.

    Tickets to the 2015 draft will be worth more because the Browns will have 2 Top 5 picks
    ———————————————————-
    Man just don’t understand some people? Cleveland has done nothing to you, yet all you do is look for an article about Cleveland so you can bash the team and it’s fan base over and over! Don’t get it. I’ll bet everything I got that if your team has been as bad as ours over the years, you would be rooting for a different one by know. You need to start worrying about other things. Like how many games your team can win in a row, then get blown out in the Superbowl.

    Just Sayin’…Go Brownies! Stay Classy!!

  40. 1rockyracoon says: Jun 9, 2014 12:52 PM

    Makes sense. He won’t be able to say no next year. If the league and anyone still cares about them.

  41. riders008 says: Jun 9, 2014 12:55 PM

    Coach beck there has not been a blackout in Cleveland since they came back in 19999…so please check the facts before you speak….

  42. pascalswager42 says: Jun 9, 2014 12:55 PM

    “Man just don’t understand some people? Cleveland has done nothing to you, yet all you do is look for an article about Cleveland so you can bash the team and it’s fan base over and over! Don’t get it. I’ll bet everything I got that if your team has been as bad as ours over the years, you would be rooting for a different one by know. You need to start worrying about other things. Like how many games your team can win in a row, then get blown out in the Superbowl.

    Just Sayin’…Go Brownies! Stay Classy!!”

    Coon – I reply the same all of the time on PFT, and event PBT as the Cavs hate is just as strong (especially with the gift of another #1).

    Typically, people who lash out in this way are deep-down incredibly insecure of their own status, be it a job, team loyalty, or personal issues.

    Everyone wants to hate on C-town. But how many have truly engaged the city, region and its fanbase, to discover what it has to offer? NONE.

    Knowledge is power. Cleveland is a fantastic city and NEO generally is a very cosmopolitan, affordable, foodie place where you can raise a family at a decent cost. The only truly bad thing is the weather if you hate winter and overcast skies.

  43. tformation says: Jun 9, 2014 12:55 PM

    Smart move by Browns organization. They’ll get enough attention with Manziel on the team. Trust me, you’ll hear plenty about Johnny Football without them being Hard Knocks… whether you want to or not!

  44. dawgpoundjedi says: Jun 9, 2014 1:03 PM

    Oh, and one more thing… we DID approve a new stadium. Modell turned it down.

  45. nutsboltsandotherthings says: Jun 9, 2014 1:03 PM

    <<>>

    While I agree they will be competitive I have to disagree about the prior stuff. I have had Season tickets for the last 6 years and that stadium is always at least 30% empty. They may sell them but people aren’t using them…

    I have come to believe that Cleveland is more of a Drinking town with a Football problem. Sundays are just another day to hang out with friends and throw one back.

    Cleveland Browns unofficial slogan – “Win or Lose, We still booze”

  46. ragnarthemagnificent says: Jun 9, 2014 1:47 PM

    I understand turning it down but it would have been fun to see.

  47. youknowwhatsgoodforshoulderpain says: Jun 9, 2014 2:21 PM

    If the Browns are turning down Hard Knocks, its a good indication that Hard Knocks is on its way out.

  48. camdenyard says: Jun 9, 2014 2:38 PM

    Soft knocks for this bunch.

  49. bigtime1957 says: Jun 9, 2014 2:56 PM

    Darn it could have been titled :How Not To Run A Football Team”

  50. td40 says: Jun 9, 2014 2:57 PM

    Looking through these comments, there’s an amount of hate for the browns that borders on downright bizarre. I mean, here’s a team that has never played in a Super Bowl and hasn’t even made the playoffs since 2002… It seems no one thinks they can even put together a + .500 season, and therefore, they’re no threat to *your* team, so why so much hate— this year more than any other?

    Oh. Right. Got it. People are seeing that this was finally the offseason where nearly every move they made was the right one. They see the team being loaded with talent, good people who were hired as coaching and front office staff, smart decisions being made… and they realize that the “threat” of the Browns finishing somewhere other then the AFCN basement is not only a possibility, but a likelihood… and they hate that. they’re not used to that. It’s hard for fans of the Ravens (a splintered team on it’s way down) and the Steelers (the “old folks home” of football) to reconcile with this. And of course, Bengals fans talk as much or more trash, even though all they field is couch-surfing-during-the-playoffs squads, too. Except for when they get embarrassed in a wild card game.. then the couch is put off for another week or two.)

    Anyway, we Browns fans understand. For possibly the first time, you’re scared witless that they Browns will finish in first or second place in the AFCN, so go ahead and get the hate out now, before it takes on a very bitter taste :)

  51. NoWearMan says: Jun 9, 2014 3:16 PM

    Love ignorance….the Rams moved to Los Angeles because they knew they couldnt compete with Paul Browns new franchise being in the same market.

    Research is a good thing…try it sometime.

  52. seahawkfanfrom1970s says: Jun 9, 2014 3:26 PM

    I’d no more watch “Hard Knocks” than I would watch the Kardashians.

  53. sumkat says: Jun 9, 2014 3:41 PM

    Wait a second

    A good decision coming from the Browns FO? Did I step into some unseen bunny hole? Where is the blue pill?

  54. raiderapologist says: Jun 9, 2014 8:51 PM

    But Pettine said the Browns were first approached about it before the draft.
    ————————
    So was any other team that could possibly draft Manziel. The league doesn’t want the Browns. It wants Johhny.

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