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Plaintiff in Redskins case urges Chiefs to change their name

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The Washington Redskins aren’t the only NFL team whose name bothers some Native Americans.

The Kansas City Chiefs should also change their name to avoid giving offense, according to Amanda Blackhorse, the lead plaintiff in the case that the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office just decided against the Redskins.

“I’m not sure there’s anything the [Chiefs] can do at this point other than look for another name,” Blackhorse told the Kansas City Star. “They could be the team that says, ‘You know what? We understand the issue and we don’t want to be Dan Snyder and fight this in court forever. We want to do the right thing and move forward and avoid this entire battle.’ I’m sure fans will be upset, but still, that’s doing the right thing. If they want to be sensitive to Native American people, that’s the thing to do.”

Blackhorse’s sister, Kristy Blackhorse, is part of a group of Native Americans in Arizona who plan to protest at two Cardinals games this season — not only when the Redskins come to town in October, but also when the Chiefs come to town in December.

There are fundamental differences between the Chiefs and the Redskins, especially that dictionaries define “chief” as a term of respect and “redskin” as a slur. The Kansas City Chiefs have kept a low profile during the debate, hoping that they can continue to use their team name without the controversy that has swirled around the Redskins. If Blackhorse has her way, the Chiefs won’t avoid controversy for long.

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284 Responses to “Plaintiff in Redskins case urges Chiefs to change their name”
  1. joeflaccoallday says: Jun 26, 2014 12:22 PM

    Wow. That woman is so stupid.

  2. pnut87 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:23 PM

    There’s the domino.

  3. thestrategyexpert says: Jun 26, 2014 12:23 PM

    Just another lousy team name that should have been changed a long time ago.

  4. touchdownroddywhite says: Jun 26, 2014 12:23 PM

    Plenty of Native Americans have been referred to as Chief, and I would imagine all have embraced the title. Huge difference between Chief and Redskin, although frankly I don’t take issue with either.

  5. rcj22001 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:24 PM

    and here we go… will anyone be offended if we use the letter ‘A’?

  6. killxswitch says: Jun 26, 2014 12:25 PM

    You have got to be kidding me.

  7. davebarnes21 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:26 PM

    I “urge” this guy to find something else to do with his life!

  8. elmaxoh says: Jun 26, 2014 12:26 PM

    I don’t see any problems with the name ‘Chief’…

  9. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Jun 26, 2014 12:27 PM

    For those who didn’t see the slippery slope effect in play here, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

    Great — more of this pukefest to come.

  10. tylerisntthere says: Jun 26, 2014 12:27 PM

    Dammit Amanda Blackhorse! Don’t you see you’re just feeding the name defenders with the previously-weak “where does it end” argument?!

  11. 12444uggg says: Jun 26, 2014 12:27 PM

    Maybe this will inform the PC crowd what they’ve done. It will never stop. Next stop the state of Indiana.

  12. araidersfan says: Jun 26, 2014 12:27 PM

    Well, I’ve always known them as the chefs.

  13. tavisteelersfan says: Jun 26, 2014 12:27 PM

    How about the Braves and Indians in MLB and the Black Hawks in hockey.

    It is a pretty slippery slope.

  14. b3nz0z says: Jun 26, 2014 12:27 PM

    this damages the argument tremendously

  15. galvestontexans says: Jun 26, 2014 12:28 PM

    Her last name offends me I think it should just be horse. I mean why do we have to point out the color of the horse?

  16. catchhester23 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:29 PM

    Think it is easier to just redefine the words in the dictionary isn’t it. If that’s what they are going by…. What a joke. The Blackhawks will be next followed by the Indians and braves.

  17. deeceefan says: Jun 26, 2014 12:30 PM

    My…brain …hurts lol How long before Florio starts calling the the ” Kansas City Football Team”

  18. nite2al says: Jun 26, 2014 12:30 PM

    The Chiefs’ name would probably be changed before the Redskins as stubborn Dan Snyder is.

  19. natelan69 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:30 PM

    Amanda Blackhorse seriously runs the risk of destroying the credibility of the Redskins argument with this statement.

    Redskin is a slur and the name MUST be changed.

    Chief is NOT a slur, and thus the name can stay.

    It isn’t black and white. This isn’t a case where ANY team name or logo which references Native Americans is a bad thing. ONLY the Redskins name is offense.

    Atlanta Braves? Kansas City Chiefs? Perfectly acceptable names. Cleveland Indians? Meh, that’s borderline (these people are NOT from India after all!).

    Washington Redskins? Seriously offensive.

    When people like Amanda Blackhorse make idiotic statements like this one, it makes it more difficult for me to support the Redskins issue.

  20. banlarson says: Jun 26, 2014 12:30 PM

    As a Norwegian American I suppose I am offended by the Vikings. It brings up a painful history of my cultures barbaric past that I am unable to forget with the Minnesota Vikings as a constant reminder. Please change their name as well so as to not offend me.

    By the way, while we are at it, friends of mine who are members of PITA have an issue with the Bears, Lions, Eagles, Seahawks, Rams, Cardinals, Falcons, Panthers, Jaguars, Bengals, Ravens and Dolphins.

  21. topgunna says: Jun 26, 2014 12:31 PM

    Commander in Chief, Chief Executive Officer, Chief Financial Officer… disparaging, no?

  22. bgrayber says: Jun 26, 2014 12:31 PM

    Next comes the Atlanta Braves.

  23. theboondoggles says: Jun 26, 2014 12:31 PM

    How is Chief different from Viking, Cowboy, or 49er? Not derogatory in anyway.

  24. robert831 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:33 PM

    Ok I understand why Redskins should be changed, but Chiefs is the complete opposite.

  25. thenew013 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:33 PM

    well…we did kind of like steal their land.

  26. cbosa says: Jun 26, 2014 12:33 PM

    And here we go…what’s next the Atlanta Braves? Chicago Blackhawks?

  27. kcbigb says: Jun 26, 2014 12:33 PM

    That slippery slope just got steeper and more slick.

  28. possumsauce says: Jun 26, 2014 12:34 PM

    Oh good lord. Considering that “chief” derives from the Old French, and is believed to have originated at least two centuries before Columbus set sail, this is supremely comical. Still not as bad as Marquette scuttling “Warriors” for similar reasons, but close.

  29. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jun 26, 2014 12:34 PM

    I think Amanda Blackhorse should consider changing her name. It’s offensive to horses. Identifying them by their fur color.

    How ironic. Can’t make this stuff up people.

  30. Aaron Rodgers Has Tiny Hands says: Jun 26, 2014 12:35 PM

    Henceforth, the following terms are banned:

    Chief Executive Officer
    Commander-in-Chief
    Chief Scientist
    Police Chief
    Fire Chief
    Chief of Staff
    Chief Operating Officer

  31. maestro1899 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:35 PM

    I had a problem with the Redskins name because it is viewed as a slur by the majority of people.

    However, I don’t feel team names that are not derogatory to the majority of reasonably sane people should be forced to change, names like Chiefs and Seminoles.

    To me, those names are showing pride in a non-derogatory way, similar to a team name like the Yankees, the 49ers or the Nordiques that are named after “groups” of people.

  32. elway6532 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:35 PM

    I think the whole thing is another example of hypersensitivity. However, if your going after the Redskins, Chiefs only makes sense too. How about the Indians, or the Seminoles too? How about the fighting Irish for that matter. Where does this childish hypersensitivity stop? How about the Boilermakers? I am sure the Boilermakers Union has something to say about that, especially if Purdue stinks!

    Next congress will be banning jokes about Blondes and Polacks.

    Grow up.

  33. wintermute00 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:37 PM

    This case isn’t about nor has it really ever been about the name, trademark, etc.

    It’s about extortion. This plaintiff (and their lawyers) and the last one will go away when they’ve been paid for their suffering and allow the ‘Skins to keep their name till the next group and their lawyers want some cash.

    Sadly, the PC crowd latches on to these types of cases and though they nor anyone else ever considered it a slur they take up the case quite passionately until the next thing comes along.

  34. lightcleric says: Jun 26, 2014 12:38 PM

    Remember when people who said this would happen got accused of the slippery slope fallacy?

    Slippery slope isn’t always a fallacy, folks.

  35. jdmv240 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:38 PM

    And down goes Frazier! Pretty soon ALL NA reference will be extinct from our culture. Oh and in case you haven’t seen… The Clevend Indians (or The Cleveland Baseball Team, since I’m on PFT) Chief Wahoo is being sued for 9 billion

  36. nwfisch says: Jun 26, 2014 12:39 PM

    PC Police gone wild.

  37. eroschmidt says: Jun 26, 2014 12:40 PM

    neither will get changed and that goes for the Cleveland Indians as well. if you don’t like the name, don’t support the team or buy their gear….

  38. pftthoughtpolicemostwanted says: Jun 26, 2014 12:40 PM

    The word yankee is derogatory to northerners.

  39. gbart22 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:40 PM

    This is what I expected to happen they’ve been attacking schools and professional sports teams who use native Americans names not racial slurs around the country to change their names which is ridiculous these names aren’t offensive.

  40. punterturnedpiratelouieaguiarrr says: Jun 26, 2014 12:40 PM

    I’m 100% for the Redskins changing their name. Any push whatsoever to change the name of the Chiefs will damage the credibility of the anti-Redskins movement.

    In summary, this is stupid.

  41. reesesteel23 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:40 PM

    LOL. Chiefs is nowhere near as bad as Red Skin. Chiefs isn’t taking a specific characteristic of an entire race and using it as a nick-name.

  42. pantfan89 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:41 PM

    What happens when all the cats in the world obtain the ability to speak and start protesting together? Talk about a pickle….

  43. SeattleJones says: Jun 26, 2014 12:41 PM

    Ah, how refreshing to see the result of whacko political correctness so soon.

    It really is that bad, people. It will never stop unless you realize that it’s a free country and some small percentage of the population will ALWAYS be offended by something. Get over it.

  44. radiofriendly420 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:42 PM

    This country sucks.

    Anyone saying the Redskins name change makes sense but the Chiefs name change doesn’t simply doesn’t get it.

    So sad…we had the best country ever for such a long time. Now…we’re concerned with this garbage. Sickening. Our society is pretty sad.

    These pretzels are making me thirsty.

  45. coltzfan166 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:42 PM

    This is why the Redskins cannot give in and change their name. It would just be the beginning of more teams changing theirs.

  46. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Jun 26, 2014 12:42 PM

    Good grief

  47. raveallday says: Jun 26, 2014 12:42 PM

    Omg!! What is going on in america??!!! CHIEF I is a honor! It’s a title given to a leader!

  48. nomdeplume01 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:43 PM

    So, will they also be going after every police dept in the country who has a police Cheif, or the US Navy for their Cheifs? The country has many more and bigger problems than to waste time and give any credibility to a movement like this. When will it ever end, anyone could be offended by anyone else’s name.

    Some people just want to make a name for themselves or stick there hands in the deep pockets of others.

  49. stephlawton79 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:43 PM

    What the article fails to report is that the Kansas City Chiefs are named after Kansas City Mayor Harold Roe Bartle, whose nickname was “The Chief.” Come on guys, do your research.

  50. mvp43 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:46 PM

    Lets just get rid of all teams with any reference to Native Americans. Redskins, Indians, Chiefs, Braves, etc.

    Then lets get rid of all States and cities that reference Native American names.

    Then lets get rid of all landmarks, Lakes and rivers that reference Native American names.

    Then lets remove all Native American names from the history books.

    Before you know it………………..in a hundred years when everyone forgets that Native American ever existed………

    Then someone will sue the government because all references to Native Americans have been removed.

    Chiefs, Indians, Braves are all proud names that in no way are meant to offend. They are meant to respect and remember.

  51. DawgPound83 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:46 PM

    Next up, removing all engines from cars.

  52. jpmelon says: Jun 26, 2014 12:46 PM

    Pretty soon people named William will have an issue with the Bills.

    This is why the Redskins shouldn’t change their name. Because there is someone out there that is offended by everything. The redskin team name has not been used as a racial slur. It is literally the name of a football team, nothing more. The word “red” has been used to describe natives the same way that white is used to describe Caucasians and black is used to describe African Americans.

    Sarcasm*…..I take offense to the name Blackhorse. I don’t think natives should name themselves after an animal that was brought over from Europe.

  53. fwippel says: Jun 26, 2014 12:47 PM

    Good Lord, where does this nonsense end? This is reason enough for the Redskins and Dan Snyder to stand firm on no name change.

    Well, if the Kansas City Chiefs fall, who’s next?

    New Orleans Saints offends atheists, so it will need to change.

    New England Patriots offends the British (as well as many Americans) so it needs to change.

    New York Giants offends vertically challenged people, so that needs to be changed.

    New York Jets promote pollution, so that needs to be changed.

    Buffalo Bills are named after a rancid, evil, 19th century cowboy who killed buffalo for fun, so that needs to be changed.

    Cleveland Browns may have been named after Paul Brown, but now it is an offensive racial slur, so that needs to be changed.

    Minnesota Vikings offends people of Scandinavian descent, so that needs to change.

    San Francisco 49ers glorifies the greed of the California gold rush that resulted in mayhem, death and broken dreams of wealth, so that needs to change.

    Pittsburgh Steelers are named after an industry that spent much of the 20th century polluting our planet, so that needs to change.

    Green Bay Packers are named after meat packers, the type of meat responsible for clogging our arteries and causing heart disease in millions of Americans, so that needs to change.

    Are there any that I missed?

  54. 1phillyphan says: Jun 26, 2014 12:47 PM

    None of these plaintiff’s fore fathers took issue with these names ( that have been around for decades).. Should the “Raiders & Buccaneers and even Vikings” change their name because they are named after thieves and robbers? Should the non-Christians be upset at the The Saints” name ? Personally in the animal kingdom, I think all Jaguars should be upset their breed is named after a team as bad as the Jaguars…I think Dan Synder is the worst owner in the NFL but he didn’t name his team the Redskins. he bought the team with the name firmly in place. None of these groups were saying anything decades ago.

  55. weepingjebus says: Jun 26, 2014 12:50 PM

    As a horse, I am offended by the name “Amanda Blackhorse.”

  56. chuckxx says: Jun 26, 2014 12:50 PM

    For Lord Sakes this country just keeps getting nuttier and nuttier by the day. This is probably one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. The name Chief is used in hundreds of instances around the country.

  57. gonzoforbills says: Jun 26, 2014 12:51 PM

    As an Irish-born Ameerican citizen, I formally protest and will soon be filing a lawsuit against Notre Dame for the slur “Fighting Irish” and the angry leprechaun logo…

  58. beefturkey says: Jun 26, 2014 12:51 PM

    This is like saying the Green Bay Packers should change their name because it’s offensive to factory workers who prefer to be called “shipping specialists.”

  59. mrwalterisgod says: Jun 26, 2014 12:52 PM

    No. It’s staying. Deal with it.

  60. ravensmike410 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:53 PM

    While we are at it, let’s change the names of all the miliary helicopters. No more Apaches, or Chinooks, or how about the Cayuse? Let’s not forget the BlackHawks, or the Lakotas. No more Tomahawk missiles.

  61. damnskins703 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:54 PM

    This is getting ridiculous

  62. elway6532 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:54 PM

    So is Obama going to request they stop playing “Hail to the Chief” for the President?

  63. metalman5150 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:55 PM

    Hail to the Redskins!
    No offense, intended. Duh.

  64. fumblenuts says: Jun 26, 2014 12:56 PM

    OMG! HORRIBLE!!

  65. darkneptune73 says: Jun 26, 2014 12:56 PM

    How the fudge is Chiefs offensive?

    That woman has no idea what she’s talking about.

  66. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jun 26, 2014 12:59 PM

    See if you thought the libs were going to stop with Redskins, they aren’t. Enough. You don’t represent most of America and for sure, not most NFL supporters. Go away.

  67. pftcensor1 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:00 PM

    Yes Yes Yes…. Green Bay you are also on deck.

  68. bassplucker says: Jun 26, 2014 1:01 PM

    Next up… Florida State.

  69. abanig says: Jun 26, 2014 1:01 PM

    Just change the names, otherwise these issues, lawsuits and protests are never going to end.

  70. jacksonjames4 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:05 PM

    I hate the Internet

  71. graphicwolf1art says: Jun 26, 2014 1:05 PM

    Holy Crap…Why don’t you just color code all the teams and take away any type of identity?!!! Please take me back to the 80’s or later.

  72. randomcommenter says: Jun 26, 2014 1:05 PM

    This is the proof that the redskin controversy is fabricated. It has nothing at all to do with anybody thinking a name is offensive.

    It has to do with how political groups gain power. They gain power by publicly taking down someone or something.

    These people are not concerned with justice. They are concerned with putting something on their resume and getting on TV.

  73. godfatherd says: Jun 26, 2014 1:07 PM

    While I agree the Redskins should change their name, there is nothing offensive about Chief. No reason I can see that it should be changed/

  74. moeller77 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:09 PM

    This is getting ridiculous. Nicknames, by their very meaning, are shorthand or descriptors of an area, group, or anything meaningful to an area. They’re not meant to be politically correct. My old high school is the Arrows, and my old football helmet has a similar logo to Florida State football. Oops, boom, offensive. But my hometown has a long Native American history. And it’s named Pipestone, for crying out loud. More ruffled feathers. Named for the pink rock they make their peace pipes out of. And the PC police have already gotten my current college in the crapper, the former Fighting Sioux, University of North Dakota. It never ends. These people just need to stop getting so worked up over something so trivial.

  75. denverwally says: Jun 26, 2014 1:10 PM

    So who didn’t see THIS coming?

  76. alexb1234 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:11 PM

    What if Kansas City was calling themselves the Chiefs to honor their Police Chiefs? You can force the Redskins to change but Chiefs? NO. All the Chiefs would have to do is alter their logo and then this lady with no life can go on to occupy wall street again.

  77. therealtrenches says: Jun 26, 2014 1:11 PM

    I’m so far left on most issues that I fall off the freaking table, and even I think this kind of idiocy discredits the movement to wipe the word “redskin” out of the American vocabulary.

    There’s nothing wrong with “Chief.”

  78. crisper57 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:13 PM

    “Chief” is not limited to Native American Tribes. Many cultures in many nations have had, or continue to have, Chiefs.

    You could make the argument that the team logo singles out Native Americans, but the Tribes can’t take singular offense over the word by itself.

  79. dsigrey says: Jun 26, 2014 1:14 PM

    This is getting way out of hand.

  80. FinFan68 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:18 PM

    Irony? How is the person responsible for the Redskins hoopla named Blackhorse.

    Question to those pushing for a name changes: Why is it that the feelings of a few should override the views of the many? Don’t get holier than thou on that question either. You are the ones who changed the definition of what the word redskins means. The name is not/has never been used to refer to a person as a slur. When someone says “Redskin” every person on here immediately thinks football or high school. You have to put effort into thinking about it offending. Grow up people. You do not have the right to not get your feelings hurt. Most who claim they are offended don’t really understand what that means. It goes beyond a mild annoyance or preference.

  81. daysend564 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:18 PM

    $9B lawsuit brought up against Chief Wahoo (Cleveland Indians mascot)

  82. rextraordinaire says: Jun 26, 2014 1:19 PM

    Well, worst case scenario, they change the logo to something akin to a generic fire department logo and then dare to find someone butthurt and sensitive enough to say its offensive to firefighters.

    As for team names of specific Indian tribe names like Chicago Blackhawks, Florida State Seminoles and Illinois Fighting Illini, they seem to be safe because those tribes support those teams and vice versa. Dan Snyder might learn something there, considering the Redskins name will most likely have to change eventually.

    Washington Fightin’ Oneidas?

  83. greggfletch1 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:19 PM

    HAHAHA. Congrats Redskins, this stupid woman just sank the change the name ship. I never wanted it changed anyway. I am A PROUD CHIEFS FAN. There is nothing written or stated that makes CHIEF a bad thing. She just made the PC police look like they are. STUPID. Congrats Snyder. By the way, I didnt know a descripition was racist. So I can sue if someone calls me whiteskin.

  84. hyprcaffeinated says: Jun 26, 2014 1:21 PM

    For this point forward, I will only call them the Kansas City Football Team in my posts.

  85. thetooloftools says: Jun 26, 2014 1:22 PM

    Cleveland here… no way in hell are you coming after our baseball team.

  86. 69finfan says: Jun 26, 2014 1:23 PM

    It is highly unlikely the Seminole Tribe in Florida will ever ask for the FSU name to be changed. FSU pays the Seminole Tribe a lot of coin to use the name.

  87. Ed Bandell says: Jun 26, 2014 1:24 PM

    Good, let one person boycott a football game that will be televised to millions and be attended by tens of thousands.

    For once the majority should rule as long as no rights of the minority is infringed.

    Enough of this “somebody MIGHT be offended by this” so we have to change everything nonsense.

    Oakland Raiders: “That is a horrible reminder of somebody that has been robbed.”

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: “Oh, that is a reminder of horrible pirates.”

    Arizona Cardinals: “That might offend the papacy.”

    Indianapolis Colts: “That refers to the Colt pistol which was used to shoot a lot of people.”

    Let these people waste their money suing and losing, and their time by protesting to deaf ears.

  88. csbanter says: Jun 26, 2014 1:25 PM

    Enough is enough of this crap. Go save the whales or endangered wildlife but leave the NFL alone. Hopefully Dan Snyder and the Hunt family stay the course.

  89. nbarber2013 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:25 PM

    Man people always have to complain about something. I see leave the names as is since they’ve been that way for quite some time now. If they don’t like the term Chief or Redskins then don’t watch football! Don’t change NFL history because people are whining about a stupid NFL team name. Are they calling Native Americans Redskins just because that’s their team name? NO! Jesus Chris!

  90. tformation says: Jun 26, 2014 1:25 PM

    Here the race hustlers attempt to take another mile.

    Hold fast, Chiefs. There isn’t anything remotely offensive about your name.

  91. skins1970 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:26 PM

    These PC people are out of control the Skins name doesn’t need to be changed and neither does the Chiefs. If you don’t like the names don’t watch their games, read about them or comment on their threads just ignore them.

  92. mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports says: Jun 26, 2014 1:26 PM

    Through hundreds of articles, has it ever really been clearly explained (with undeniable facts) why “Redskins” is offensive? Now someone is offended by “Chiefs” as well? Isn’t a chief the leader of a tribe? What’s offensive about that?

    This country was founded with the majority ruling everything. Now all it takes is 10% of the Native population being “offended” by the name of a football team to get our government up in arms. I wish our government would be more concerned with job creation and how all our jobs are sent overseas.

  93. barrywhererufrom says: Jun 26, 2014 1:26 PM

    Next up Oklahoma..you know with its meaning the land of the red people has to go…

  94. ttomfor1 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:29 PM

    If Chiefs is offensive, then why isn’t this lady trying to go after the Cleveland Indians?

  95. ttomfor1 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:29 PM

    or atlanta braves? and so on…

  96. quickdraw85 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:30 PM

    Shut up………that is all. Thanks

  97. fballguy says: Jun 26, 2014 1:30 PM

    We can just change all the team names to Team 1, Team 2, Team 3…all the way up to Team 33.

    (Of course we won’t use the number 13 as that’s the devil’s number, thus offensive to Christians)

  98. vaughnjoe says: Jun 26, 2014 1:30 PM

    We should change the name of the league and change the names of the teams until everyone is happy. Get real and keep these PC police out of football!

  99. rg3sus says: Jun 26, 2014 1:31 PM

    Like him or not, if Dan Snyder changes the name, it will start a domino effect of professional sports teams being bullied by the PC crowd to change their names. Be careful the position you take, otherwise all our beloved teams will end up with stupid names like the wizards (in dc we hate that name)

  100. 80sbroncofan says: Jun 26, 2014 1:34 PM

    Some how the name “Blackhorse” offends me. I think she needs to change her name.

  101. fatguystrangler says: Jun 26, 2014 1:34 PM

    Someone needs to tell Ms. Blackhorse to get off her high horse.

  102. steelerben says: Jun 26, 2014 1:36 PM

    Context is important. While the name “Chiefs” is based on Harold Roe Bartle, the use of Native American (which should technically be Aboriginal American, seeing as how I am Native American since I was born here) imagery shifts the focus. The last time there was any major debate on this topic the Chiefs were called into question, as well.

    It makes sense to draw a distinction between names that are blatantly offensive and just any name that is related to Aboriginal Americans. Logos that are stereotypical, demeaning charactures, like the Cleveland Indians, are unacceptable. However, logos like the Chiefs’ Arrowhead is not.

    Using common sense and getting rid of the offensive, racist and otherwise ridiculous names instead of waiting until opposition is whipped into a frenzy and lawsuits are filed would go a long way to keping reasonable franchise names out of the debate.

  103. shamasf says: Jun 26, 2014 1:37 PM

    Yankee is also a slur the British used against colonists during the Revolutionary War. It needs changed too according to this logic. I am from the Northeast and am offended. I am also part Native-American and disagree on the Chiefs statement.

  104. antalicus says: Jun 26, 2014 1:39 PM

    Yes, they should change their name to the Captains and put Captain Crunch on their uniforms.

  105. saxguru says: Jun 26, 2014 1:39 PM

    Amanda Blackhorse just seriously overplayed her hand. She lost a lot of credibility by going after the Cheifs. I now can only surmise that there’s more money in the NFL coffers than in MLB. By the way, I’m white – and I find her last name offensive. No love for the white horses?

  106. becjasl says: Jun 26, 2014 1:41 PM

    They should just change their name to the Chefs. Very close to what they have, most people wouldn’t notice. Plus Chefs carry knives and that’s scary as all get out!

  107. wheeln69 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:42 PM

    Ok, all of you non Native Americans weighing in must be feeling guilty that most likely your ancestors stole the land from the Native Americans and find this as a way to reparations. They are sports franchises for crying out loud, not hate groups promoting the denigration of a race. Amanda Blackhorse and her sister need to come down off their Highhorse and stop spreading thist…

  108. mightbegoingtohellforthis says: Jun 26, 2014 1:44 PM

    I’m pretty sure the only to appease this woman would be to change the name of the team to the Blackhorses.

  109. rohlo says: Jun 26, 2014 1:44 PM

    the vatican just called and said they are offended by the name padres as the team name and their mascot portray preists as having big bald spots on their head!

  110. linji45thgen says: Jun 26, 2014 1:46 PM

    As a native of the Bronx, I am offended by the term ‘Bronx Bombers’, as it depicts us as terrorists. As a person partially of Irish descent, I am offended by the name Notre Dame “Fighting Irish”. As a northerner, the name “Yankees” offends me deeply. And the name “White Sox” also offends me, as it implies that my African-American brothers are somehow inferior-not to mention that the ‘bad’ team was called the ‘Black Sox’.

    As a part-German, I am offended when football teams ‘blitz’. As someone born in July, the Miami Heat offend me. As a Catholic, the Stanford Cardinal mock my archbishop, and the USC “Trojans” pro-birth control message offends my my values.

    The St. John’s Red Storm offends my pro-capitalist feelings as this term implies some kind of communist revolution.

    And I have a gay friend, and he is offended by the Calgary Flames. Not to mention the Edmonton Oilers and California Golden Bears.

    So hurtful!

  111. davidblanket says: Jun 26, 2014 1:47 PM

    Gee … what a surprise.
    NOT!

  112. coolherc says: Jun 26, 2014 1:49 PM

    Soon, wildlife conservationists will become offended and the Falcons, Eagles, Seahawks, Broncos, Lions, Bears, Dolphins, Bills, Cardinals, etc. there will be an outcry for those teams to change their names, as well.

    After that, Aviators will become outraged and the Jets will have to follow suit. The list just goes on and on and on, and will spread to other sports.

    The reality the situation is that anybody and be offended by anything, regardless of how ridiculous it seems. Unless we start putting our foot down as a society, these types of things will never end.

  113. gonzoforbills says: Jun 26, 2014 1:50 PM

    I love my Bills, but the way they play lately is probably offensive to all folks named Bill…

  114. flashdeath says: Jun 26, 2014 1:51 PM

    I am Norwegian by heritage and I am deeply troubled by the VVikings name. How soon can we change that sucker?

  115. myeaglescantwin says: Jun 26, 2014 1:51 PM

    completely different circumstances.

    get out of town you joker.
    no more handouts

  116. timmylaz99 says: Jun 26, 2014 1:55 PM

    I have two words for her and they aren’t Happy Birthday!

  117. justamoguy says: Jun 26, 2014 1:58 PM

    Sorry if this has already been said, I tried to scan the comments but I am short on time, so…..

    A) The team was originally named for the Mayor of KC that worked to get the Chiefs to KC. Mayor Bartal’s nickname was ,”Chief”

    B) A Chief is a leader/ruler. Much like a King (NBA, NHL, soccer), Royal (MLB, minor league hockey), Monarch (Negro league,AHL), etc

    I agree, going down this avenue will weaken the argument to change Washington’s name. Big mistake on the part of Ms. Darkhourse. I think others from her cause are scolding her for this interview.

  118. deadeye says: Jun 26, 2014 2:02 PM

    Anyone who didn’t realize that the goal all along has been to eliminate ALL Native American mascots is a complete buffoon.

  119. hollywood26 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:03 PM

    I have no problem if they change the name and I’m a fan, but this “of course it’s offensive” comment BS is not really true. There are multiple HS teams named Redskins which happen to be native american. So evidently it’s not as cut and dry as believed. Personally i say change the team name and keep the mascot but I’m someone who believes in accommodation versus just bowing down to public pressure without thought.

  120. bullcharger says: Jun 26, 2014 2:03 PM

    There is nothing offensive about the word Chief and there is no way they can force a change of it. It discredits her argument regarding the the Redskins slightly that she would lump something in that is a completely different scenario.

  121. Getoffmylawn! says: Jun 26, 2014 2:08 PM

    She just made me change my mind and support Dan Snyder!
    I hope that if changes are made, that there is no reference at all to any native American culture, good or bad.

  122. restorativejusticeprogram says: Jun 26, 2014 2:09 PM

    When you appease these politically-correct fascists they are not happy, but want more and more.

    They are making Snyder look reasonable. Tell them all to get stuffed, if only for the sake of America and our freedoms.

  123. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jun 26, 2014 2:09 PM

    fwippel says:
    Jun 26, 2014 12:47 PM
    Good Lord, where does this nonsense end? This is reason enough for the Redskins and Dan Snyder to stand firm on no name change.

    Well, if the Kansas City Chiefs fall, who’s next?

    New Orleans Saints offends atheists, so it will need to change.

    New England Patriots offends the British (as well as many Americans) so it needs to change.

    New York Giants offends vertically challenged people, so that needs to be changed.

    New York Jets promote pollution, so that needs to be changed.

    Buffalo Bills are named after a rancid, evil, 19th century cowboy who killed buffalo for fun, so that needs to be changed.

    Cleveland Browns may have been named after Paul Brown, but now it is an offensive racial slur, so that needs to be changed.

    Minnesota Vikings offends people of Scandinavian descent, so that needs to change.

    San Francisco 49ers glorifies the greed of the California gold rush that resulted in mayhem, death and broken dreams of wealth, so that needs to change.

    Pittsburgh Steelers are named after an industry that spent much of the 20th century polluting our planet, so that needs to change.

    Green Bay Packers are named after meat packers, the type of meat responsible for clogging our arteries and causing heart disease in millions of Americans, so that needs to change.

    Are there any that I missed?
    _________________________________

    Excellent point and no they aren’t going to stop with Redskins as we all see now. You haven’t missed many but I will add…

    Cowboys- promotes cruelty to animals and the consumption of beef which leads to heart disease.

    Buccaneers- offensive term to pirates and certainly offensive to the Spanish who were attacked, killed, and robbed by them.

    Broncos- Offensive to wild horses and their owners who have not yet trained them.

    Any more?

  124. packerbadger says: Jun 26, 2014 2:10 PM

    And I’m part Irish. The Notre Dame “Fighting Irish” offends me very much. I think we should replace that name too.

    I’m really getting sick of all this phoney outrage!

  125. bunkmcnulty says: Jun 26, 2014 2:16 PM

    Common sense points to inappropriateness of supporting a team name that refers to a person’s or group’s skin color in the year 2014. I even understand the hideousness of the Indian’s logo, of a bucktoothed, red, man. You want to talk about changing those, I have no issue and support them both.

    But there is nothing wrong with Chiefs. Nothing. Nothing wrong with Braves, Blackhawks, Seminoles, Indians, or Chiefs. The scary thing is, this time I will be on the side of the bigots defending Redskins. Even scarier, the side of Dan Snyder.

  126. akboot says: Jun 26, 2014 2:16 PM

    Cant wait to hear what certain sports talk radio hosts have to say now. A duo were saying, no way would whats happening now, happen. I called their show and was belittled for saying this would happen. Ten bucks says they don’t take my call. Hint; it’s a black guy and a white guy. I do like their show though. Helps get me trough a long work day.

  127. peoriaviking says: Jun 26, 2014 2:18 PM

    There is no right recognized in law to not be “offended”, until now. This ruling is a very bad precedent, no matter what side of the issue you’re on. Using the Courts and the heavy hand of government to make sure you are not “offended” is anti free speech and should be rejected by all. After all, do we really want government employees in black robes with the force of law behind them deciding what is and is not offensive? This is not a reasonable time place and manner restriction, it is a content based decision that is better left to public opinion, not the courts.

  128. holeinone09 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:18 PM

    This is going too far. Pretty soon, so nobody gets offended, you might as well just use only the name of the city and no other name. It will just be Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay, etc. Is that where all this will end up? What a waste of time, money and effort when there are so many other problems facing this country.

  129. sonorheppy says: Jun 26, 2014 2:23 PM

    Is this really any different than a team called the Senators or the Presidents? It’s a standing or a title, not a group of people – correct?

  130. vikesandravens78 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:24 PM

    I’ll definitely argue in favor of changing the Redskins name, but saying the Chiefs need to change as well is asking for way too much. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

  131. dustinb18 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:30 PM

    EAGLES ARE IN TROUBLE ! OMG !
    INDIAN CHIEFS NAMED EAGLE !

    War Eagle
    Big Eagle
    Running Eagle
    Grey Eagle
    War Eagle
    Red Eagle

    Want some more ?

    Lol what a JOKE !

  132. wooshelius says: Jun 26, 2014 2:30 PM

    I covered 20 full boards of Arguing about the skins team name Bingo from reading these comments. Yay! This is stupid

  133. dmuehlhausen says: Jun 26, 2014 2:33 PM

    Actually if you want to get technical the name is after Native Americans.

    The whole story I don’t remember by Lamar Hunt actually chose the name after the mayor something of the city of Kansas City for helping him move the team there and his nickname was The Chief.

    Over the years obviously it’s morphed into a Native American version. This would never hold up in court though. Unless Native Americans want to stop using the title Chief which I’m sure they do in their tribes.

  134. tuxbirds says: Jun 26, 2014 2:34 PM

    Every time I visit my wife’s family in NC, they ask her why did she bring that damn Yankee with her? I am formally requesting the NY Yankees change their name. Seriously, when will the madness end?????
    Where is the line???

  135. blogatron2000 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:34 PM

    “They could be the team that says, ‘You know what? We understand the issue and we don’t want to be Dan Snyder and fight this in court forever. We want to do the right thing and move forward and avoid this entire battle.’ ”

    ————————————————-
    I think the title of this thread is inaccurate. This sounds more like a threat than an “urging”.

  136. armoderate says: Jun 26, 2014 2:35 PM

    So we morphed from questionable litigation (Redskins i.e., derogatory) to embarrass the owner into doing something right to absurd litigation for the sole purpose of making more money in legal fees. What a surprise.

  137. krebsy34 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:36 PM

    Change the Chiefs name?? Just because a word is used to describe the leader (Ex. Commander in chief) is used by Natives doesn’t mean it’s offensive.

    She is basically saying that if they were called the Presidents that all Americans should be up in arms. That is just ridiculous.

  138. floreskins says: Jun 26, 2014 2:38 PM

    Wait? So, your entire argument for the Redskins is that it offends Native Americans no matter how few a percentage, but now the same group states that Chiefs is offensive as well, and NOW its “the dictionary says it’s ok, so it’s ok”. Give me a break.

  139. longsufferingkcfan says: Jun 26, 2014 2:38 PM

    As a person of Irish descent, I am deeply offended with how Notre Dame attaches their mediocre and overrated athletic program to my people.

  140. revelation123 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:38 PM

    Entirely predictable. You give offended people an inch and they won’t stop until only their personal preferences are legal.

  141. nflfan1326 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:38 PM

    Princess Blackhorse wants money.

  142. kcflake says: Jun 26, 2014 2:38 PM

    Total BS.

  143. bobwsc says: Jun 26, 2014 2:39 PM

    make them the “Chefs” already. or the “Hunters” with respect to the owners.

  144. igornathanhiggers says: Jun 26, 2014 2:39 PM

    How about a little empathy from the name change crowd?

    They’ve been bullying Redskin fans…intent doesn’t matter blah blah if one person is offended blah blah…perhaps this offers a little perspective and understanding.

  145. upperdecker19 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:42 PM

    Go with “Chefs”. Although culinary professionals may take issue.

  146. buddysguys says: Jun 26, 2014 2:47 PM

    get over it people. Not one damn owener is goign to change their name and they are going to sit back and rake in checks liek they always have.

  147. rch1943thebob1025 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:48 PM

    Ya’ll remember how all the lawyers are salivating over this PC nonsense!!!!!!!!!

  148. keylimelight says: Jun 26, 2014 2:49 PM

    Chiefs is a slur? Slippery slope indeed.

    Soon we’ll have to outlaw the words “stupid”, “idiot” and “moron” if we’re not careful here.

  149. eagles512 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:49 PM

    Anyone who is obsessed with team nicknames should be sued.

  150. kcflake says: Jun 26, 2014 2:50 PM

    Can someone wxplain to me how the team name “chiefs” is racist for indians? These people need to grow up.

  151. belichickdominatedjoemontana says: Jun 26, 2014 2:51 PM

    The term “red” was adopted by French and English by the 1750′s after the reference to “red man” was made in 1725 by a Taensa chief. According to the French (1725), the Taensa referred to themselves as “Red Men.”
    Three chiefs of the Piankashaws wrote (1769), “You think that I am an orphan; but all the people of these rivers and all the redskins will learn of my death.” In 1807 French Crow (Wahpekute, Santee Sioux) said, “I am a redskin…” In an 1815 speech by Chief Big Elk of the Omaha Tribe, he called himself (and others in similar positions among different tribe) “Red Skin Chiefs”. — The Washington Football team was simply paying honor to these men’s history and their name. A name they named themselves. Now it is offensive? Politically Correct doesn’t do this story justice. Mind boggling might.

  152. buttslarue says: Jun 26, 2014 2:53 PM

    In the mid 20th century the term “chief” was frequently used as a way to talk down to American Indians much like the term “boy” was used for African Americans. There is no instance when it is acceptable to use an American Indian as a sports’ mascot. For those of you wondering “what’s next?” Yes you are correct, it will be the Blackhawks, Braves, Seminoles, Indians, etc. The Cleveland Indians have already been protested in AZ this week. There are currently around 900 sports teams that still have Native American mascots, that is 900 too many. All you have to do is look up past comments from Ms. Blackhorse, Suzan Harjo, Smokin’ Ray Halbritter, etc. to see that this is the ultimate goal.

  153. ashevillechief says: Jun 26, 2014 2:55 PM

    VERY different terms. Look up the origin of how the Chiefs got their name. All respect.

  154. BigAlHeBDMan says: Jun 26, 2014 2:56 PM

    Hopefully the name Saints are safe since all who could protest are deceased.

  155. wadrules1 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:56 PM

    Are the Blackhawks, Braves, & Indians going to be next? Well of course they are. SMDH

  156. thetruthcampaign says: Jun 26, 2014 2:57 PM

    I’m all for the Redskins name change, but not sure about the Chiefs.

  157. psly2124 says: Jun 26, 2014 2:58 PM

    You need to stand up to the leftist bullies. Fight on Snyder, fight for ties who don’t have the money to fight a tyrannical government and it’s minions

  158. BigAlHeBDMan says: Jun 26, 2014 2:58 PM

    Oh yes, does the lawsuit mention anything about Redman tobacco?

  159. chrisco4bucs says: Jun 26, 2014 3:04 PM

    Why is it all of a sudden that people have issues with “redskins” and ” chiefs”……..get over it, it’s not racist, if anything the people offended should be proud to be recognized. My great grandmother was full blood Cherokee and I’m not throwing a fit and she wouldn’t either I bet, get over it people and GO BUCS

  160. cfballfan1 says: Jun 26, 2014 3:04 PM

    Here we go….Cleveland Indians you’re up next.

  161. jrdennis says: Jun 26, 2014 3:05 PM

    Now this is really starting to get stupid. I’m a quarter Cherokee Indian and certain names bring pride to the Indian Nation. Braves, Chiefs, Warriors, Indians. When I hear these names I am filled with pride. The name Redskins is offensive because it refers to skin color specifically. If you asked most, Native Americans, INDIANS how they felt about this, we would say, lets find something else to talk about or lets put our effort towards a real Native American problems, education, poverty, health. This Idiot in Arizona just wants to hear her name mentioned.

  162. italionstallion888 says: Jun 26, 2014 3:12 PM

    If she knew anything about the Chiefs or KC (which I’m from) she would know that the KC Chiefs got their name from an individual in KC that was called Chief, it has ZERO reference to Native Americans and actually has a lot of heritage in Kansas city. Fat chance getting that changed, it’s been around since the FIRST SUPERBOWL, this lady can kick rocks.

  163. summitmech says: Jun 26, 2014 3:13 PM

    All for attention and money. Greed.

  164. kamikazeblu1914 says: Jun 26, 2014 3:16 PM

    Besides this cheapening the argument to eliminate the D.C. name…it’s misinformed.

    1) Chief is a term of respect. Many tribal leaders came out in support of this in the 90’s.
    2) The team name was partially due to the KC’s mayor at the time luring the team from Dallas, instead of them moving to New Orleans.
    3) The Chiefs are largely a regional team (for the most part) encompassing a lot of the plain states where Native cultures once thrived.
    4) The organization has toned down most (not all) of Native American related associations including changing the logo decades ago (used to be an Indian with several states in the background), eliminating the man in headdress riding the mascot horse, and other efforts.
    5) The “Chiefs” are part of Kansas City culture. Taking the name is the same as taking part of our tradition. Might as well take BBQ too.

  165. summitmech says: Jun 26, 2014 3:18 PM

    buttslarue says:
    Jun 26, 2014 2:53 PM
    In the mid 20th century the term “chief” was frequently used as a way to talk down to American Indians much like the term “boy” was used for African Americans. There is no instance when it is acceptable to use an American Indian as a sports’ mascot.
    ————————————————

    They’re American natives. Not American Indians. Arguement – Voided.

  166. redskinsnamesupporter says: Jun 26, 2014 3:28 PM

    I have been saying it for months and all the Redskins haters have been saying no its just the Redskins. I knew once it started that more were to follow so go ahead. Keep allowing all this crap to go on. The whole NFL and College sports teams will be named after paint or crayons. Unbelievable !

  167. davidfchandler says: Jun 26, 2014 3:32 PM

    The name “49ers” comes from the name given to the gold prospectors who arrived in Northern California around 1849 during the California Gold Rush.

    Thank God gold wasn’t discovered in 1869 or we’d have another name change on our hands.

  168. redskinsnamesupporter says: Jun 26, 2014 3:32 PM

    This in the end is a good thing for the Redskins, because now it just shows how absurd these claims to have the names removed are. Lets see all the push against the Chiefs from this site now like we have seen against the Redskins.

    How do you feel about it now Andy Reid? I love it. This will only dampen the name change stuff now and it will fizzle out because one team is one thing, two is questionable but I know there will be more that they ask to remove the name of and then that will end the whole controversy because two or three teams will never change their name at once like that.

  169. dmuehlhausen says: Jun 26, 2014 3:33 PM

    The person that mentioned Seminoles. That name won’t ever be changed. The Seminole nation actually backs the name. The trained the person that rides the horse in actual Native dance. The outfit was also given to them by members of Seminole Nation.

  170. phinagain says: Jun 26, 2014 3:34 PM

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. A focused, unified effort to change the offensive name of the team in D.C. is about to fall apart because it’s now becoming a splintered effort that will be framed as the “liberal pc police trampling freedom of speech”

    redskins = racial epithet
    chiefs, not so much. let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Are people offended by the chiefs name? maybe. a discussion is certainly worth having. are people offended by the other name? yes. obviously. it’s defined in the dictionary as a derogatory term – it needs to change now.

    now is the time to push forward and strip the name from that team. it’s not the time to introduce peripheral issues into the discussion.

  171. dexterismyhero says: Jun 26, 2014 3:35 PM

    What about Chief from “One flew over the cuckoo’s nest”?

    Oh, it’s ok because Will Sampson was an Indian.

  172. redskinsnamesupporter says: Jun 26, 2014 3:41 PM

    Its all over now, cry all you want but this guy just gave the Redskins the way out. I love it! Redskins for Life! Here comes the NFL, the commissioner, and another team owner to shoot all this down now. We win again! Hail to the Redskins!

    Thanks for all your comments and concern on this matter form this site (sarcasm) , but its done now. Love it!

  173. boss81hogg says: Jun 26, 2014 3:42 PM

    Kansas City Football team, Atlanta Baseball Team, Cleveland Baseball Team, Washington Football team… LOL good stuff.

    I’m actually surprised the Chiefs are next on their list, considering the Braves have that horrible screaming savage logo.

    The tomahawk chant isn’t helping you all either.

    While reading the life history of one of my clients, she mentioned the that she and her friend “do not chief.” Apparently chiefing means smoking marijuana.

    Now there’s a slang word for Chief.

  174. packerbackernj says: Jun 26, 2014 3:49 PM

    I agree with changing the redskins name, beings that at one point it was a derogatory term. Chiefs? Not a shot. That’s just absurd.

  175. raaz227httr says: Jun 26, 2014 3:52 PM

    It’s NOT A SLUR! Get over yourselves!

  176. hugeredskinsfan says: Jun 26, 2014 3:53 PM

    I love that this happened. This means the Redskins will never change! The PC police are going wild! No one like a slippery slope…

    I love it.

  177. jdmv240 says: Jun 26, 2014 3:57 PM

    The term “red” was adopted by French and English by the 1750′s after the reference to “red man” was made in 1725 by a Taensa chief. According to the French (1725), the Taensa referred to themselves as “Red Men.”
    Three chiefs of the Piankashaws wrote (1769), “You think that I am an orphan; but all the people of these rivers and all the redskins will learn of my death.” In 1807 French Crow (Wahpekute, Santee Sioux) said, “I am a redskin…” In an 1815 speech by Chief Big Elk of the Omaha Tribe, he called himself (and others in similar positions among different tribe) “Red Skin Chiefs”. — The Washington Football team was simply paying honor to these men’s history and their name. A name they named themselves. Now it is offensive? Politically Correct doesn’t do this story justice. Mind boggling might.

  178. gmen05 says: Jun 26, 2014 3:58 PM

    What if the plaintiff in this case is actually a huge Redskins fan, and this was just her way of solidifying the fact that the Redskins name will never change?

    Mind blown.

  179. buttslarue says: Jun 26, 2014 4:00 PM

    “The Washington team – it’s the king of the mountain, when this one goes, others will.”-Suzan Harjo

  180. buckifan4life says: Jun 26, 2014 4:02 PM

    This is ridiculous! Why don’t we just remove any terminology in the English language that describes Native Americans? They can be the invisible people whom we don’t ever mention. The woosification of America continues! No one is ever allowed to get their feeling hurt. What’s next???

  181. boss81hogg says: Jun 26, 2014 4:03 PM

    Also, there’s a huge grass roots movement on social media to #DeChief the Cleveland Indians logo, Chief Wahoo.

    Kansas City, your nickname is too close to Chief Wahoo, it’s just a matter of time before your team is sued or you have trademarks pulled.

    Another thing I don’t understand is whhy are the Skins are front and center? The origin of the word has been disagreed upon for decades and their fans don’t do the tomahawk chant battle cry unlike the Cheifs fans. IDK maybe it has to do with the fact the Skins are the 3rd most valuable franchise in the NFL.

  182. lookout1234 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:06 PM

    It must suck to go through life being so easily offended. I wish my life was so great that THIS was all that I had to worry and complain about.

  183. packfanaj12 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:07 PM

    Redskins is a negative and derogatory name throughout cultural history. Chiefs… have never had that a negative or offensive sound to it. In fact… it is used in the business sense still to this day. Beuro cheif, cheif CEO… In fact I would say that Cheif has a positive value to it.

  184. draftazoid says: Jun 26, 2014 4:11 PM

    Kansas City Little Horses

  185. jollyjoker2 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:15 PM

    I am just plain offended over everything. take away all names from the NFL. !

  186. buckifan4life says: Jun 26, 2014 4:20 PM

    Where will the line finally be drawn? I support the Chiefs to fight this to the bitter end. Obama and the patent office need to stay out of this one. I don’t agree with them getting involved with the Redskin’s issue for that matter. As far as I’m concerned, the Government should butt out. Don’t they have bigger problems to solve? Oh that’s right, they can’t seem to solve the unemployment problem while taking RNC and DNC contributions from American companies who’s labor force is outside our borders. Sickening!

    Sorry for digressing…

  187. kcchiefs58 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:26 PM

    I’m a diehard chiefs fan. The chiefs name is because of the beloved former Missouri mayor Bartle who was referred to as the “chief” for all his efforts in the community with native Americans.

    How is this offensive to be named after a public figure that was loved and was pivotal in moving the chiefs from Dallas where they were the texans?

    This lady is nuts.

  188. bobnelsonjr says: Jun 26, 2014 4:26 PM

    It never stops.

    Once you give in like Austria, then it is the Sudetenland, the rest of Czechoslovakia, and then there is war in Poland.

    You can’t give in to the trade mark aggressors.

  189. rukiddnme29 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:27 PM

    I was born and raised in the USA. I am a Patriot; therefore, I am offended by the New England Football team. If they want to be sense to be sensitive to people who are technically native to America, they should do the right thing and change their name.

  190. morr24 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:28 PM

    This tears it. I am officially completely sick of this utter nonsense!

  191. chrisco4bucs says: Jun 26, 2014 4:33 PM

    I guess we have to get rid of “redneck” also

  192. xiiprestige says: Jun 26, 2014 4:33 PM

    First off i would like to say i am Native American and the Chiefs name is in no way a problem with apparently 99% of us with her and her attention seekers being the other 1%. And second im sick of these uneducated so called Native Americans makeing us look bad by bringing this stuff up about the Redskins name, know your heritage Blackhourse (We the Native Americans are the ones that started the Redskin name and are the ones that called ourselves Redskins) this word was not made up by white people and they never really used it, just us. Now go back to school

  193. jimcarnoven says: Jun 26, 2014 4:34 PM

    This is only going to drive more support for the Redskins. A few individuals of Native American ancestry are not going to remake professional sports.

    I’m glad PFT had the good sense to publicize this nonsense.

  194. sladewillson says: Jun 26, 2014 4:39 PM

    So let’s see I am in the united states navy and we as well as the coast guard uses the terms “Chief” “Senior Chief” and ” Master Chief” as the top three ranks for enlisted personnel, then we also have “Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy” “Chief of Naval Operations” “Chief of Naval Personnel” and don’t forget the ” Joint Chiefs of Staff” now I would love to see what Mike Florio and the Politicians who jumped on the Redskins name change bandwagon has to say

  195. jimcarnoven says: Jun 26, 2014 4:40 PM

    It’s official. This woman is mentally ill.

  196. bengalsfan73 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:41 PM

    I am not a Redskins fan or a Chiefs fan but this whole name change issue is getting out of control. I understand it can be offensive to some people but their names has always been around so why did the people not complain sooner before they were actually implemented into the league as far back as the AFL. Where were the issues then. This is going to start a major domino effect if the courts make the teams change their names because this will only begin in the NFL and go to MLB, NHL, then to college sports and you can even go as far as high school sports as well. When will this issue end. I for one am honestly ready to stop hearing about this because it is just bringing bad publicity everyday to one of the greatest sports in the world.

  197. jgedgar70 says: Jun 26, 2014 4:43 PM

    There is one thing we know for certain: Some people are offended at EVERYTHING!

    What’s next? A cry for the Carolina team to change its name because Sir Purr’s mascot antics are making fun of the poor little animals? The San Francisco team has to change its name because it’s offensive to descendants of those in the mid-19th century people who rushed California looking for gold, because calling them “49ers” castigates them as greedy? A new name for the Green Bay team because “Packers” is a slur at people who do meat-acking for a living? Cleveland has to change its name because “Browns” is not the name of the team founder but a backhanded slap at black people? The Oakland teams have to have new names, because “Raiders” is offensive to Somali pirates and “Athletics” means that people who play sports are elitists (and part of the 1%)?

    WHEN DOES THIS CRAP STOP????????????????????????????????????????????

  198. clashpoint says: Jun 26, 2014 4:48 PM

    How about the navy rank of chief? That ok?
    How about firehouse chiefs and the like?

    There are ripples to the waves people make.

  199. bengal4life says: Jun 26, 2014 4:55 PM

    I think the Patriots should change their name. It’s racist to all the people that fought for this countries independence. I also think every team named after an animal should change their name. This is getting way out of control. I hope Snyder sticks to his word and doesn’t change the name.

  200. Magyver says: Jun 26, 2014 4:56 PM

    From the franchise history, Kansas City Chiefs:

    “Hunt agreed to relocate the franchise to Kansas City on May 22, 1963 and on May 26 the team was renamed the Kansas City Chiefs. Hunt and head coach Hank Stram initially planned on retaining the Texans name, but a fan contest determined the new “Chiefs” name in honor of Mayor Bartle’s nickname that he acquired in his professional role as Scout Executive of the St. Joseph and Kansas City Boy Scout Councils and founder of the Scouting Society, the Tribe of Mic-O-Say.”

    A total of 4,866 entries were received with 1,020 different names being suggested, including a total of 42 entrants who selected “Chiefs”.

    Quote courtesy Wikipedia.

  201. nouhoh64 says: Jun 26, 2014 5:00 PM

    She should change her last name..horses are offended by it.

  202. eckertae says: Jun 26, 2014 5:01 PM

    Well, they say its because the mayor in KC used to run around with feathers on his head. So, I don’t know.

    Next up will be the other teams. Then the state of Oklahoma. Some college teams. But Ms. Blackhorse won’t have the nerve to go to reservations where schools that have over 90% Native Americans are choosing names like Redskins or Chiefs for themselves. She won’t go there and explain how they are offending themselves.

    Accept it now KC. Its coming for you too. They’ll show some old movies where a cowboy calls a drunk Native American “Chief” in a condescending way and say “LOOK, that’s offensive!”

    Was H. Roe Bartle Native American? If not, and that’s who its named after. How is it that different?

  203. lonzolin says: Jun 26, 2014 5:03 PM

    I seen this coming. Was just a matter of time before the Chiefs where in the spotlight. Personally I have no considered opinion to either name.

  204. horsepedlr says: Jun 26, 2014 5:07 PM

    follow the money.=lawyers

  205. trollingforjustice says: Jun 26, 2014 5:20 PM

    It all started when Tampa removed the ”DEVIL” from the Rays team………

  206. tomcous says: Jun 26, 2014 5:24 PM

    Chiefs, Braves, and Indians are NOT racial slurs!

    “Redskins” is a defined racial slur.

    This action will reduce the argument for those that actually look at it intelligently.

  207. eckertae says: Jun 26, 2014 5:33 PM

    Yeah, good luck with that. Twitter is full of people saying the calling a Native American “Chief” is like calling an African American “Boy” now.

    The more KC fans try to say its different, the more they hurt their own argument. Its going to be all or nothing. Prepare.

  208. claymus1 says: Jun 26, 2014 5:50 PM

    Damn MVP 43…. Could not have said it better myself….

  209. jvkaimak says: Jun 26, 2014 5:54 PM

    Al Sharpton is going to demand the Cleveland browns name to be changed next.

  210. iamsenorking says: Jun 26, 2014 6:06 PM

    I’m from Texas, so I find the name Cowboys to be offensive to all real Cowboys. Coincidentally, I also find their play to be offensive as well.

  211. ghjjf says: Jun 26, 2014 6:26 PM

    Ironic that someone named “black horse” would have a problem with the term “red skin”.

  212. politicallyincorrect says: Jun 26, 2014 6:29 PM

    LOL at the Libs

    they found a token to run for president and now found one to attack Native Americans and the NFL

    Hail to the Redskins!

  213. boss81hogg says: Jun 26, 2014 6:33 PM

    IMO the Cleveland Browns must change their name too.

    Again this has nothing to do with origin (persons name) but feelings and how they’re received. Plus it SOUNDS like a shot on minorities.

    Offensive! Change it now!

    Rawr!

  214. kevjones75 says: Jun 26, 2014 6:46 PM

    As I’ve said before, we have moved from a nation of GRIT to a nation of grievance. Really, really sad.

  215. jimcarnoven says: Jun 26, 2014 6:49 PM

    The Chicago fans would sooner burn down the reservations than allow Blackhawks to be subject to a racial slur debate.

  216. artman9865 says: Jun 26, 2014 7:03 PM

    Now I am half Native American and I don’t care if Washington redskins want to use that name it does not offend me at all and this coming from a diehard 49ers fan and I think they should leave them have their name it’s been like that forever it’s not hurting anyone honestly I think some people are just looking to get attention so they can see themselves on the media. Seriously what is so bad about redskins they should be honored they are representing them

  217. notthetroll says: Jun 26, 2014 7:04 PM

    I think I might need to change my distraction time from the NFL to destroying progressive thought and all its ugliness and relentless never ending attack on everything.

  218. drunkwino says: Jun 26, 2014 7:41 PM

    Guess what? You don’t wake up one day and decide that something that offended no one is now offensive. Like it or not, redskins was a perfectly acceptable name when it was made and has continued to be a perfectly acceptable name right up until a couple months ago. Now it’s unacceptable just because?

    The name redskins was picked to honor their native American coach Lone Star Dietz. Dietz considered it an honor. You and your dictionary don’t have the right to change names and re-write history to fit your agenda, which is *exactly* what the PC Fascists have done.

    This time the fascists aren’t be appeased until they invade Poland. This time you get slapped down hard enough that your philosophical forefathers in the Third Reich will be spitting out teeth.

  219. imthatguydave21 says: Jun 26, 2014 8:00 PM

    Okay now this is going to far, while my liberal ideology absolutely believes in changing he name Redskins (which is a derogatory name) banning the name “Chiefs” is just plain stupid. There is in no way shape or form anything remotely wrong with that name. Not Chippewas, Seminoles, Braves, Fighting Sioux, so on and so forth. Hopefully it stops and stays at Redskins.

  220. woakland says: Jun 26, 2014 8:01 PM

    “Patriots” offends me because I’m from the South. This is getting more bogus everyday.

  221. nouhoh64 says: Jun 26, 2014 8:02 PM

    Edmonton of the Canadian Football Leauge…….you’re up next!!

  222. oldschool123 says: Jun 26, 2014 8:25 PM

    If you think Chief is a good term for Indians then go call the next Indian you see a Chief. “What up Chief”.

    Obviously, like the Redskins, the Chiefs don’t use this term in a derogatory way. In fact, both teams try to do the opposite and have for many years.

    So we can either censor every word that makes any small group of people upset or we can realize that not everyone has to agree on everything.

    Personally, I am really offended by the term “Yankees” which is considered a slur by some people.

  223. gocaps8 says: Jun 26, 2014 9:16 PM

    Who, may I ask if chiefly responsible for this nonsense? Oh man, there I go again. Sorry about that.

  224. finsguy says: Jun 26, 2014 9:17 PM

    We told you so. The professionally and habitually offended crowd will never be satisfied. They will always find something to be offended by and will claim that they are the ones to decide what is offensive and who needs to change and be branded an outcast.

  225. rosstuckershair says: Jun 26, 2014 9:24 PM

    First the names, then possibly look for:

    Outcry over injuries. Flag football in 15 years?..lol

    Income inequality hate heaped on NFL Owners. This might show up during the next push to build a stadium.

    We gave them the inch and they will take the NFL the whole mile. The slope has claimed another victim.

    The most ironic thing about this? The Kansas City Paper recently said they would not print the name Redskins in their sports pages. How do you like them apples now that your little pond is being attacked?

  226. rcali says: Jun 26, 2014 10:02 PM

    Ha ha, the soon to be coined “The Kansas City Football Team” by all those who enjoy getting on their soapbox.

  227. ravensbob says: Jun 26, 2014 10:15 PM

    I say bring back the Baltimore Bullets, the St Johns Redmen, the Syracuse Orangemen…….this crap has to stop…..

  228. privatecowboy says: Jun 26, 2014 10:29 PM

    just an FYI, but the Chicago Blackhawks of the NHL were named after a World War One flight squadron and not a tribe or any native american…so naturally the name must be changed.

  229. kennyking33 says: Jun 26, 2014 10:46 PM

    while we’re on the subject of offensive names…please tell me I’m not the only one offended by the name “Cracker Barrel”
    that’s gotta go to…I could get a headache thinking of all the things we need to change so as not to offend…actually I believe that to be utterly impossible.

  230. gadlaw2012 says: Jun 26, 2014 10:46 PM

    All football teams and all baseball teams and every other team in every other sport will eventually have to be named for poll tested pastel colors and even then there will be someone who feels that they’ve been slandered and racially slurred. Can’t be named after variations of the colors white, yellow, brown, black, red or orange (Whatever race John Boehner is would be offended)

  231. simplec72 says: Jun 26, 2014 10:59 PM

    Next they’ll want the cowboys to change their name.

  232. BigAlHeBDMan says: Jun 26, 2014 11:02 PM

    I sure hope the redskins don’t change their name to the monuments to go along with that other dull name The Nationals (knats for short). What’s more insignificant than a knat, but I guess it’s non-controversial.

  233. swagger52 says: Jun 26, 2014 11:30 PM

    Liberal Logic…

    It is good when you can feel better about yourself and you can make the point that others are not as sophisticated as your. Redskins = racial slur

    However, it is bad when you extrapolate it out to be ridiculous to claim that the Chiefs name is also bad.

    It is not bad because of the sensitivity, it is just bad to the liberal cause because it exposes their real goals. It exposes how stupid they are, instead of how stupid you are supposed to feel. If you make the liberal value system look stupid it takes away their entire motivation to do anything.

  234. steeelfann says: Jun 26, 2014 11:49 PM

    Is it time to take the liberals to the woodshed for wasting so much of hard working, normal Americans money and time with their BS? They are putting us all in poverty with their repeated nonsense.

  235. stewart09 says: Jun 27, 2014 1:08 AM

    Wow half you his sound like Fox News pundits using the same arguement they use for gay marriage saying it will lead to everyone losing their name because it offends someone. Let’s face it all the momentum for the redskins has been from public support then congresses support all because it is a racial slur even defined in the dictionary as a slur. they will never deregister Cheifs name trademark like already has happened to the redskins as it has nothing to do with a racial slur and if pushed to think it is a racial slur it will backfire because their will be zero public support or congresses support in doing so.

  236. blackhole7711 says: Jun 27, 2014 1:10 AM

    Coming from a Raider fan, this would be a travesty for the Chiefs to change their name and mascot to their very STORIED franchise. Why was this okay for years and years and it’s a problem now?

  237. nflrox36 says: Jun 27, 2014 1:23 AM

    The Chief’s name proudly emulates the leaders of the Native American culture…Redskin on the other hand is a slur…it clearly makes reference to skin color, in a derogatory manner..The 2 aren’t even remotely the same!

  238. freepretzels says: Jun 27, 2014 1:29 AM

    Sorry. I support the Redskins name change, but this is too far and will only alienate moderate people. Its exactly what everyone was afraid of, now everything is offensive.

  239. nflrox36 says: Jun 27, 2014 1:31 AM

    I think the term Charger is a slur against people who use credit cards…and Raider?..We all know that’s just taking a shot at Pirates.

  240. waynesborokennyg says: Jun 27, 2014 1:44 AM

    Curious, is there anyone here who is personally offended by the name Redskin because you are Native American and have had this term used referring to you as a slur? I’d really like to know and would like to hear from you here…

  241. defscottyb says: Jun 27, 2014 2:11 AM

    Been telling you guys I knew this was coming… If they let this “group” win in the Redskins case it will open up a Huge Pandora’s Box for all and any teams remotely related to Native Americans. It would be a huge mistake to let that happen. Set a precedence and Boom… they are all gone sooner or later… Chiefs, gone… Indians, gone… Braves, gone… Seminoles, gone. Blackhawks, gone… Warriors, gone… Redskins, gone… Wouldn’t be surprised if it opens the door for other teams names to be scrutinized as well like the Browns (Named after the Brown Bomber Joe Louis and not Paul Brown like everyone says). Yankees could be offensive too as well as The Fighting Irish. I’ve even seen some African American folks who want the Wizards changed because it’s a rank in the KKK. What about the 1849ers/49ers who forcibly removed and murdered 100K Native Americans during the Gold Rush… oh yeah, gone.

  242. footballchic777 says: Jun 27, 2014 6:28 AM

    This is TOTALLY ABSURD!!!!!!! Where does this women get off expecting her illogical OPINION to override any logical stance. There is nothing about the term chief that is derogatory. Matter of fact, it would be a term of superiority. There are chiefs in multiple terms. If they placed a police shield on the side of the helmet, would she then protest that???? There comes a point where people have to put their foot down and stop allowing the litigious community of fame mongers to rule.

  243. chuckforeman44 says: Jun 27, 2014 7:24 AM

    The only people being called a “Redskin” these days, are guys on that football team! Theyre the only ones that should be offended by that name!

    “Welcome to liberal America, where we try and do everything possible to make everyone happy….even if it means pissing off the majority of people!!”

  244. usedjock says: Jun 27, 2014 8:05 AM

    Honestly lets just do away with all logos and mascots. The only thing that can be allowed is the letter on the hat or helmet that shows what city or state a team is from. B for Boston, G for Georgia or Green Bay, C for Chicago etc. Or take it a step further and only put numbers on a plain hat or helmet (like Alabama does) and call it a day. This will ensure that no one’s delicate feelings are hurt.

  245. ravensfaninflorida says: Jun 27, 2014 8:54 AM

    All this politically correct stuff is getting out of hand. Makes me want to move to Russia.

  246. mdpgc says: Jun 27, 2014 9:28 AM

    The entire point is that the name is not used in today’s language as a derogatory term…Now if this was issue they had when it was being used as a derogatory term then I would say change it. It seems to me that people are way to sensitive about things nowadays. People cry and whine about little things while the big issues that we and everyone should complain about don’t get talked about or solved!

    To everyone who wants the name changed….Get a life and fight for major issues that plague this country and we will all be a better country for it!

  247. earvinmagicjackson says: Jun 27, 2014 10:13 AM

    I’m highly offended by “Chief.” That’s what my division’s VP calls me, because he can never remember my name.

    Maybe they should keep the name, and simply change the logo to a picture of my face.

  248. mdpgc says: Jun 27, 2014 10:31 AM

    How is any of the names(words) offensive, when no uses the names(words) in derogatory ways!

  249. boss81hogg says: Jun 27, 2014 10:54 AM

    This is all about money.

    1) Have trademarks pulled from 3rd most valuable NFL franchise (Redskins).

    2) Sue a baseball team for 9 billion dollars (Indians).

    3) Now threaten another team to remove their logo and name (Chiefs).

    Seriously Ms. Blackhorse, be thankful for what you have (health, clothes, food, family, freinds) We have people in this great nation who are starving or ill and they would give anything to switch places with you. Life isn’t all that bad for you.

    Go enjoy life. You can be whatever you want without tearing someone else down, trust me everything will be okay.

  250. Timothy Benton says: Jun 27, 2014 11:50 AM

    This is what happens when you elect fools into the halls of power, we have political correctness gone a- muck. Who cares about our economy, foreign relations, lets instead have a statement from the senate and the White House about a stupid name.
    You fools voted these idiots in, now deal with the stupidity.

  251. gofor2with3pointlead says: Jun 27, 2014 2:28 PM

    As a Native American I can honestly say I don’t care to be addressed as Chief. It’s patronizing and I’m not aware of anyone who enjoys being condescended to. While I would agree that names like Braves, Chiefs and Warriors aren’t necessarily intended to disparage Native American heritage or culture, as a Native American that has personally experienced racial bigotry, I understand some Natives views that these nicknames, mascots and logos can be perceived to portray Natives as barbaric, warlike, savages. Because one is incapable of, or refuses to acknowledge that, Natives themselves find these terms offensive is of little consequence. Native Americans have never held much political sway. What is of major consequence is the apparent right wing push back on this issue. The only conclusions that I’ve been able to come up with are. One, supporters of the Washington nickname are inherently racially insensitive or outright bigots. Or two they are so ensconced in their own political viewpoint they simply refuse to acknowledge the very people everyone agrees these terms describe can even have a difference of opinion from theirs. How obtuse is that?

  252. gofor2with3pointlead says: Jun 27, 2014 2:38 PM

    Seems to me that the ones suggesting that those who oppose these depictions of Natives are expending a great deal more time and energy on the issue. Perhaps they should take their own advice.

  253. titans4evr says: Jun 27, 2014 3:17 PM

    I’m tired of all these neigh-sayers.

  254. GettingNoRespect says: Jun 27, 2014 3:18 PM

    Supporters of the name are not inherently racially insensitive, since we believe (and the polls show it) that a LARGE majority of Native Americans are not offended by the term. In fact, one could argue that the other side is racially insensitive, since they are not listening to, but rather are ignoring a LARGE majority of Native Americans who are not offended by the term.

    Supporters of the name are not outright bigots. No one in favor of the name regards or treats Native Americans with hatred and intolerance. If they did, the why would one want their team to be represented by a group that we feel that way about? That makes no sense.

  255. jwntx says: Jun 27, 2014 3:28 PM

    What small, petty, narcissistic, greedy people the Blackhorse family is. Sad that a proud people are being caricatured by these self-aggrandizing nutjobs.

  256. bencoates57 says: Jun 27, 2014 3:32 PM

    My mother redesigned her whole living room in a Southeast motif. It was a middle age thing I guess. A painting of a Native American woman. Glass sculptures full of multi-colored sand. Even the skull of some animal on the wall. The only thing missing was a tarantula.

    What I’m getting at is that Native American folklore and motifs associated with the kind of lifestyle Native Americans would have led … catches the fancy. Why wouldn’t some pro sports teams get caught up in it as well. Feathered head dresses signifying authority. Hardened skin indicative of a weathered and battle-tested spirit. Even the tomohawk chop in Atlanta.

    This is all this is about. A few Native Americans feel offended that they are being treated as mascots, much like what McDonalds did to Mexicans when it gave away a peso in every Happy Meal back in the early 90s. But I believe those who oppose the name change that this is complimentary in nature. They WANT TO PLAY INDIANS. They’d rather be Tonto than the Lone Ranger in a role play fantasy. Why that’s so difficult to push through the thick skulls of some people is beyond me.

  257. bencoates57 says: Jun 27, 2014 3:34 PM

    Oops. Make that southWEST motif.

  258. jwntx says: Jun 27, 2014 3:34 PM

    What’s sad is that a term that had lost almost all it’s pejorative usage (probably 99% of Americans only knew Redskins as a football team) has been resurrected by the very people that claim they object to it’s pejorative use! Rich. And pathetic.

  259. gofor2with3pointlead says: Jun 27, 2014 4:28 PM

    What make no sense is why every self righteous political hack with an internet connection feels compelled to chime in in this subject when some admittedly don’t even have a dog in the fight. What makes no sense is the childish, indefatigable, caterwauling from those that these terms are not directed at or describing. What makes absolutely no sense is if this issue is so insignificant, why in the hell is a majority it does not concern expend so much time and energy on it if not for their latent inherently racist nature?

  260. johne37179 says: Jun 27, 2014 4:44 PM

    I think it is inherent in all of us to try to keep others from making stupid mistakes. I also think there are many of us who are simply fed up with some group or another telling everyone else how we should act. One of the great freedoms in this country is the freedom to insult whomever we please. There will always be someone to take umbrage at whatever is said by someone else. Their umbrage is not cause to change anyone’s behavior other than their own. Racism is about the intent of the racist, not the incidental meaning someone else infers. I don’t think there is a whiff of racist or other demeaning intent in the Redskins name. That someone or group is offended is their problem.

  261. geodude11 says: Jun 27, 2014 5:04 PM

    Chiefs and Skins are winners, Navajoes, Choctaws, and Apaches were losers.

  262. gofor2with3pointlead says: Jun 27, 2014 6:16 PM

    What makes no sense is why every self righteous political hack with an internet connection feels compelled to chime in in this subject when some admittedly don’t even have a dog in the fight. What makes no sense is the childish, indefatigable, caterwauling from those that these terms are not directed at or describing. What makes absolutely no sense is if this issue is so insignificant, why in the hell is a majority it does not concern expend so much time and energy on it if not for their latent inherently racist nature? What I cannot reconcile is of all the trite, ineffectual pablum, proffered here, decent people would ally themselves with conspicuously shameless, malcontents and their right wing political agenda.

  263. sharkinva says: Jun 27, 2014 10:58 PM

    gofor2with3pointlead says:
    Jun 27, 2014 2:28 PM
    As a Native American I can honestly say I don’t care to be addressed as Chief. It’s patronizing and I’m not aware of anyone who enjoys being condescended to. While I would agree that names like Braves, Chiefs and Warriors aren’t necessarily intended to disparage Native American heritage or culture, as a Native American that has personally experienced racial bigotry, I understand some Natives views that these nicknames, mascots and logos can be perceived to portray Natives as barbaric, warlike, savages. Because one is incapable of, or refuses to acknowledge that, Natives themselves find these terms offensive is of little consequence. Native Americans have never held much political sway. What is of major consequence is the apparent right wing push back on this issue. The only conclusions that I’ve been able to come up with are. One, supporters of the Washington nickname are inherently racially insensitive or outright bigots. Or two they are so ensconced in their own political viewpoint they simply refuse to acknowledge the very people everyone agrees these terms describe can even have a difference of opinion from theirs. How obtuse is that?

    ******************************

    At what point did one persons hurt feelings or sensitivities become all encompassing to the degree that everyone must feel hurt because one person does?? There are plenty of words if used in the wrong context that can be hurtful. But neither team had any intent of being disparaging to you or your American Indian brothers and sisters. And yes I use the term American Indian because I am in fact offended that you have been allowed to claim the title Native as if any one not of your blood lines is NOT Native. My family has been in this country for over 200 years.. I think that makes me and my kids just as Native to this country at this point.

  264. phillyphan420 says: Jun 28, 2014 1:59 PM

    Welp, I guess that means the Jackson County Sports Complex Authority should start talking dollars and cents for naming rights with some big corporations. Once Blackhorse learns of the current name of the Cheifs’ stadium, no doubt she will be offended and demand that be changed as well.

  265. sayingthetruthperiod says: Jun 28, 2014 5:37 PM

    I call white people ‘Chief’ also. Its not disparaging. This country grows dumber by the day as Progressives spread more PC fascism

  266. moolium says: Jun 28, 2014 7:34 PM

    Next peta will protest the names of the eagles, falcons, bears, cardinals, panthers, dolphins, Bengals, Broncos, jaguars, rams.
    Then the church will protest the saints.
    The Faa and nsa will protest the jets.
    then midgets will protest giants and titans.
    Relatives of timothy McVeigh will protest patriots
    Historians will protest 49ers.

    There goes over half the team names.

  267. politicallyincorrect says: Jun 29, 2014 6:49 PM

    LOL at the libbies… they are losing!

    Hail to the Redskins!

  268. aoc57 says: Jun 29, 2014 11:35 PM

    natelan69 says:
    Jun 26, 2014 12:30 PM
    Amanda Blackhorse seriously runs the risk of destroying the credibility of the Redskins argument with this statement.

    Redskin is a slur and the name MUST be changed.

    Chief is NOT a slur, and thus the name can stay.

    It isn’t black and white. This isn’t a case where ANY team name or logo which references Native Americans is a bad thing. ONLY the Redskins name is offense.

    Atlanta Braves? Kansas City Chiefs? Perfectly acceptable names. Cleveland Indians? Meh, that’s borderline (these people are NOT from India after all!).

    Washington Redskins? Seriously offensive.

    When people like Amanda Blackhorse make idiotic statements like this one, it makes it more difficult for me to support the Redskins issue.

    ___________________________________

    Would you call a Native American “Chief” to their face? How about “Brave”? Would you say “How’s it going Chief?” or “What’s up Brave?”

    Isn’t that the measure everyone is using in the media for the Redskins debate?

    So why is one seriously offensive but you deem the other ok again?

  269. salutethis says: Jun 30, 2014 2:48 AM

    That nuts. I get the redskins name change as it was once a derogatory term. When is being called a chief considered a insult?!

  270. johne37179 says: Jun 30, 2014 7:34 AM

    I’ve called a lot of people “Chief” to their face — they expect it — they are all in the Navy.

  271. afcdomination says: Jun 30, 2014 10:27 AM

    yes, I would call a native American who is a “chief” to his tribe, a “chief”. yes, I would do that, and have done that.

    and that doesn’t only go for native American tribes. look at the history with KC, have they gone a bit into the Native American side? yes, they have, but also to appeal to those that represent large number of fans. its not a negative to be represented in the #1 sport in America.

    Chief is not a negative term, it is not offensive in any way shape or form.

  272. steelersnowand4ever says: Jun 30, 2014 12:07 PM

    Next up: Florida State Seminoles, Atlanta Braves

  273. gofor2with3pointlead says: Jun 30, 2014 12:49 PM

    No there’s no group think, mob mentality here. You guys got it all figured out. Just good old majority rule. None of you simpletons has ever heard of “tyranny of the majority”?

  274. johne37179 says: Jun 30, 2014 12:59 PM

    You think the tyranny of the minority is better?

  275. boss81hogg says: Jun 30, 2014 2:58 PM

    I think it’s funny how fans of one Indian team accuse fans of another Indian team of being more racist. Just like the owner of the Cleveland Indians taking a shot at the Washington Redskins, pot meet kettle?

    Redskins – Defined as a slur in the dictionary
    Chiefs – Tomahawk chop, headdresses
    Braves – Tomahawk chop, screaming savage logo
    Indians – Really dude? Logo is awful

    Bottom line is that all teams have or do something that’s offensive to this minority group of roughly 2 million people.

  276. skins1970 says: Jun 30, 2014 10:54 PM

    If someone went up to a Native American and called him Chief, he would say my name Mike,Steve or Tom it’s not Chief they find being called Chief very offensive and a stereo type.

  277. mogogo1 says: Jul 1, 2014 2:56 PM

    If you spoke to this lady long enough, without question it would eventually come out she’d like to see the Florida State Seminoles change their name, too, despite the fact the Seminole tribe has given their blessing. Because she is offended by anything and everything when it comes to this topic. You’ll never satisfy people like her, so why try? That, in a nutshell, is why most people aren’t all that worked up over the Redskin name. Because they’re scared of the slippery slope.

  278. shooter28 says: Jul 1, 2014 10:33 PM

    This is just GETTING INSANE!!! The word “Chief” is in no way , shape, or form a racist name. I bet she couldn’t keep a straight face while explaining why the Hunt’s need to chance the name of their Franchise that has been around for well over 40+ yards. You know we as Americans have rights to. This bitch is just on a power trip that’s all. Their IS NO REASON they should change the Name. If Anything the Name celebrates Native American History , it certainly is not a racist term. If they don’t like it , well guess what , THEY CAN GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!!!! uh oh wait a miniute here (scratches head), somethings not write I just cant put my arrow on it.

  279. shooter28 says: Jul 1, 2014 11:27 PM

    Maybe we should start petitions n start protesting against allowing Indian Casinos ( Funny when Idian is used in front of the word casino they don’t think its racist) matching up and down the street. Getting a lot of support behind it , about how it ruins communitys n can lead to addiction. These people have no problem letting a drunk gample away his ENTIRE paycheck without remorse. Maybe its time Americans as a society starts pushing back at these people.

  280. calicowboysfan86 says: Jul 2, 2014 1:57 PM

    How did I not see that one coming..?

  281. gofor2with3pointlead says: Jul 2, 2014 9:11 PM

    Probably should just call it a day, I mean hell, part of the country is too sensitive and they rest of you don’t care about anything but your political agenda.

  282. fight4oledc says: Jul 3, 2014 10:50 AM

    Who didn’t see this coming?
    I love my Redskins but I always felt uneasy with the name and the logo, now we have a bunch of johnny come lately’s and trend followers arguing for the name to change as if the name never existed for 80+ years. Now the ‘badman’ is Dan Snyder for saying that he’d never change a name of a team that he bought (and for that he’s supposedly racist)? I’m sensative to minorities rights to not be treated as 2nd or 3rd class citizens. But I have NEVER heard or used the word Redskins negatively or dispargingly. It has always been a word associated with the team to me.

  283. itsspideyman says: Jul 3, 2014 1:51 PM

    Ug.

  284. cherokeeredskinsfan says: Jul 4, 2014 2:55 PM

    I find it interesting how Amanda Blackhorse uses the term “Native American” when most American Indians prefer the term, well, American Indian. For two main reasons: Native American either implies American Indians are somehow primitive and “savage,” or it implies that people of any other ethnicity born in America aren’t also Native Americans. I wonder how in touch with American Indian issues she truly is. Frankly, I even wonder if her last name from birth was Blackhorse or if she got her name legally changed to appear “more” American Indian.

    Now let me move on to the actual substance of this article. This is ridiculous. If I didn’t know any better, I would think that this campaign is a war being waged against any scrap of popular memory and representation of American Indians. Almost like trying to erase the fact that American Indians exist or ever existed. We are, after all, an inconvenient truth for a land that claims to be free, whose federal government waged economic, cultural, and even genocidal warfare against American Indians for centuries, even into the 20th century.

    But as a Redskins fan who is a fan of the team first and foremost because of its name, because as someone of Cherokee descent I wanted to root for “the American Indian team” since I was about five (when I was a little kid, all I knew about were NFC East teams; now the Chiefs are my second favorite team), I am happy with this overreach of these activists. Let me explain. Though I disagree with the argument that Redskins is a disparaging name, I can at least understand how some people would argue that and the logical basis for that argument. There is no logical basis for saying that Chiefs is disparaging. None. And by going after the Chiefs, they will (hopefully) expose their sham activism for the absurdity it truly is. And we can stop hearing from white liberals in New York and New England about how “racist” the Redskins name is.

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