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Hue’s comments likely won’t move contract needle for Dalton, Green

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When Bengals offensive coordinator Hue Jackson proclaimed that Andy Dalton and A.J. Green are the best quarterback-receiver combination in the NFL, the reaction in some circles was that owner Mike Brown should insert a sock in Jackson’s mouth.

With Brown, however, it won’t matter.

Brown is regarded as the least likely owner to yield to negotiations fueled by a key member of the coaching staff talking up the player.  Brown will pay what he wants to pay, and if that won’t get the deal done, so be it.

As a league source pointed out on Monday, Brown once said after an agent made his argument in a negotiation, “That was an excellent presentation. . . .  But I’m not giving you another penny.”

For Green and other 2011 first-round picks with two years left under contract, the question becomes whether the team will put enough pennies on the table to scare them into taking the deal.  For each player, there’s a number that will get the player to commit for the long term, even if it’s less than the player currently wants.

The smart teams will figure out that number and get it on the table and let the player ponder the possibility of never getting that bigger payday if he suffers a serious injury.

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19 Responses to “Hue’s comments likely won’t move contract needle for Dalton, Green”
  1. joetoronto says: Jul 1, 2014 9:58 AM

    What a combo, Hue the snake Jackson spewing bullcrap about how great his players are, and Mike Brown, the cheapest owner in all of sports, not wanting to pay anybody.

    The Bungals, LOL.

  2. doctorrustbelt says: Jul 1, 2014 10:08 AM

    Cheap Bengals owner mike brown will re-sign Andy Dalton for a nice TOP 10 NFL QB contract.

    Dalton still needs a real #2 wide receiver like Peyton Manning (Thomas/Welker/Thomas), Drew Brees (Colston/Graham), Cutler, Rodgers, etc. etc..

    Marvin Jones is a #3 wide receiver masquerading as a #2 wide receiver.

    Mohamed Sanu is a #5 wr masquerading as a #3 wr.

  3. bengalguy says: Jul 1, 2014 10:10 AM

    God bless you Mike Brown. Pittsburgh and Baltimore need to take a lesson from you. You will not put the franchise in a straight jacket 4 or 5 years down the road unlike other AFC NORTH teams!

  4. nbooat says: Jul 1, 2014 10:17 AM

    It is good to know that you (JoeT) are still bitter about the Carson Palmer trade and you gushed about what a great coach Hue is.
    Commitment to excrement, lol

  5. ed3557 says: Jul 1, 2014 10:21 AM

    I guess it’s impossible for any story on The Bengals not to morph into something about Mike Brown being cheap, their players being arrested, etc. I’m not sure why this is even a story: it’s been reported for months that they’re negotiating with Dalton and that they’ll likely give themselves an extra year by exercising the option on Green. As for their being cheap, that wasn’t true with Carson Palmer, Geno Atkins, Andrew Whitworth or any of their good players in the last several years; their history is more that they overpay their own players who’ve performed well rather than seeking outside free agents. As well, isn’t there enough skepticism about Dalton getting a big deal that Brown should be a little cautious on this one anyway? I predict they’ll sign them both, but that the Bengals will be criticized for overpaying/underpaying/being cheap/not being good talent evaluators, etc, etc, etc.

  6. itguy76 says: Jul 1, 2014 10:22 AM

    Mike Brown is a tough negotiator, and no matter how long it takes, the number always ends up pretty close to what they offered in the first place. He beat the IRS in court, so that kind of tells you something.

    He does not offer flashy contracts, but the players usually see all the money in the deal. Players get these huge contracts that are back loaded from other teams but they never actually see that big money.

    Brown is pretty smart, he attempts to keep his good players and doesn’t spend on big name free agents that so often become a bust. His salary cap management has been the model to follow for the past several years. He has paid big money to several of his best players so you can’t say he’s cheap, he could have let them all walk.

  7. bonniebengal says: Jul 1, 2014 10:27 AM

    I think the Patriots are just as cheap or cheaper, but they don’t get the abuse. They get praised for being smart with their money. Like him or not, Mike Brown usually negotiates pretty well.

  8. doctorrustbelt says: Jul 1, 2014 10:53 AM

    Dartmouth – 1957

    Harvard Law – 1959

    mike brown will sign Andy Dalton to a BIG but fair contract that is appropriate for a young quarterback who has taken his team to the playoffs in his first three season (while playing with one good wide receiver, two receivers and one tight end who can’t consistently be depended upon).

  9. whodeybacker says: Jul 1, 2014 10:54 AM

    The last 3 posts said it perfectly. Mike Brown gets a bad rap for being cheap. Its easy for the pundits to spit out the same ole reterect since they dont see the other contracts that are coming up. Its easy to spend other peoples money. Hey Mike, dig in, Dont let Burfict get away.

  10. troy43mvp says: Jul 1, 2014 11:51 AM

    Mikes Spending Habits Reflect in His Teams Playoff Record. The Numbers Are the Numbers. Top 5 to 10 Draft Picks Every Year Through the 90’s and 2000’s & You Can’t Win a Playoff Game. I’m Not Criticizing, It’s Just the Facts., as Painful as They Are.

  11. footballchic777 says: Jul 1, 2014 12:49 PM

    Mike Brown had better get his butt in gear and get AJ signed!

  12. colv says: Jul 1, 2014 1:06 PM

    So you said god bless you to Brown. Let’s count how many Super Bowls and playoff wins Pittsburg and Baltimore has won since 2000 against how many Cincinnati have won ZERO. I’ll take those two highly successful organizations every time. By the way Brown is the weakest GM in the league vice Jones, but has learned from the success that Pittsburg and Baltimore has garnered by not firing Marv and he possibly taking the GM spot and let Brown be an owner.
    God bless you Mike Brown. Pittsburgh and Baltimore need to take a lesson from you. You will not put the franchise in a straight jacket 4 or 5 years down the road unlike other AFC NORTH teams!

    What a stupid comment, great organizations have to manage success whereas Brown is a failure.

  13. Nofoolnodrool says: Jul 1, 2014 1:18 PM

    Dartmouth – 1957

    Harvard Law – 1959

    mike brown will sign Andy Dalton to a BIG but fair contract that is appropriate for a young quarterback who has taken his team to the playoffs in his first three season (while playing with one good wide receiver, two receivers and one tight end who can’t consistently be depended upon).

    You left out zero Super Bowls and zeroe playoff wins in twenty something years there Crusty Belt.

  14. cincyalldaway says: Jul 1, 2014 2:27 PM

    I can’t believe any Baltimoron would have anything to say about anybody being cheap or over paying their players. Especially after the fleecing the Flucco gave them. Not much of a performance after that big payday hu Ratbirds! Yup…that’s what i thought!

  15. b412 says: Jul 1, 2014 4:33 PM

    The Bengals are one of the two or three most successful small market teams in the NFL. I’d say they are the most successful other than the Packers. Mike Brown has been responsible for that success. It is hard to find many players that left Cincy for more money that have had great success. You don’t believe me ask Chad, TJ, Palmer, Pickens, etc. The vast majority of teams playing in the Super Bowl are large market teams that have a lot more income opportunities than the Bengals. We have a competitive team, a beautiful stadium, reasonable ticket prices and great fans. Mike Brown has some hand in all that.

  16. bonniebengal says: Jul 1, 2014 5:11 PM

    AJ won’t be signed right away. They have already picked up his option, and we can franchise him after that if we need to. They are concentrating right now on Dalton and Burfict.

  17. crownofthehelmet says: Jul 2, 2014 12:08 PM

    doctorrustbelt says:
    Dalton still needs a real #2 wide receiver like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Cutler, Rodgers, etc. etc..
    ——————————————————
    I see the frustration of 3 one-and-done’s is scrambling your brain a bit, none of these guys are WR’s.

  18. youpeopleareallthesame says: Jul 6, 2014 10:10 PM

    crownofthehelmet says: Jul 2, 2014 12:08 PM

    doctorrustbelt says:
    Dalton still needs a real #2 wide receiver like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Cutler, Rodgers, etc. etc..
    ——————————————————
    I see the frustration of 3 one-and-done’s is scrambling your brain a bit, none of these guys are WR’s.
    ———————————————————-
    Awww…. not even coming close to qualifying is making your brain hurt..

  19. pittsburghdamned says: Jul 10, 2014 2:16 AM

    I miss Hue Jackson’s idiotic Raider press conferences…

    So glad he washed up on the shore of Cincinatti.

    Clown.

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