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New York governor skeptical of taxpayers building Bills a stadium

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If the Bills and the NFL want the taxpayers of New York to chip in on a new stadium in order to keep the Bills in Buffalo, they’re going to have to work on convincing New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

Cuomo, who has previously indicated that he’s not sold on the need for a new stadium, indicated in an interview today that he believes there are better ways to spend taxpayer money than building a replacement for Ralph Wilson Stadium.

“Let’s remember that a new stadium is great, and it’s fun, and it’s new, but it’s also very very expensive,” Cuomo told WGRZ. “We [the state] put $100 million into the current stadium, so let’s see how it goes,” Cuomo said.

However, once the estate of the late Ralph Wilson sells the team, the new owner may say a new stadium is a necessity if the team is going to remain in Buffalo. And Cuomo did indicate that he would at least consider supporting a new stadium if that’s the only way to keep the Bills in Western New York.

“Let’s not get ahead of ourselves,” said Cuomo. “Everyone wants the Bills to stay in Western New York. And, if everyone agreed that the only way the Bills could stay was a new stadium, then we should talk about a new stadium. But I don’t know that that’s the case.”

Cuomo is surely right that there are more important public needs than building a football stadium. And yet the reality is, if Western New York won’t spend taxpayer money on the Bills, some other municipality in some other part of the country will.

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  1. peopletrains says: Jul 1, 2014 6:40 PM

    Oh, look who’s Libertarian now!

  2. scrp2 says: Jul 1, 2014 6:43 PM

    Well it’s not exactly a Stadium. It will be a giant upside-down igloo.

  3. ytownjoe says: Jul 1, 2014 6:45 PM

    Bye bye Bills.

  4. Marshawn Lunch says: Jul 1, 2014 6:45 PM

    I’m not so sure that some other municipality would spend any money on the Bills.

    I’ve never understood why taxpayers need to pay for the stadiums. If I were a billionaire, I would pay for the stadium myself and reap all the rewards myself.

  5. sdelmonte says: Jul 1, 2014 6:46 PM

    It’s about time someone said this. But we will see if it sticks.

  6. dickshotdogs says: Jul 1, 2014 6:47 PM

    In my best Steve Martin voice from Planes, Trains and Automobiles. “You think tho?” With the required lisp. The good folks of New York have been taxed to death! Vote ‘em out, friends.

  7. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 1, 2014 6:51 PM

    “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

  8. captainwisdom8888 says: Jul 1, 2014 6:51 PM

    I think a new stadium in Buffalo would be considered more of a WANT than a NEED, but who knows…it may benefit the team moving forward, especially if they have a dome. They way I see it, a very large percentage of the best football players in this country come from southern states and warmer climates. The simple act of building a domed stadium could actually help the Bills acquire players who may otherwise feel less inclined to play in such a harshly cold environment.

  9. alonestartexan says: Jul 1, 2014 6:52 PM

    Honestly, who cares?

    I have a feeling we’re about to experience quite a few franchise relocations, similar to that of the mid-1990′s when the Rams, Raiders, Browns, and Oilers all skipped town…

    It’s feasible to see the Rams, Raiders, and Chargers move at any time. The Bills on the other hand have what? 10 years? The Ralph needs to be replaced NOW. I could only imagine how much worse it’ll be in a decade.

  10. kerzondax says: Jul 1, 2014 6:53 PM

    Taxpayers should NEVER EVER build stadiums. I’ve been an NFL fan for over 50 years and if a team can’t handle it and wants to leave, let ‘em leave.

  11. kwjsb says: Jul 1, 2014 6:55 PM

    If you build it…they will come….

    Except in L.A. They don’t care about NFL football there, they proved it twice.

  12. sickoe47 says: Jul 1, 2014 6:58 PM

    Keep the bills in western new york!!

    Sincerely,
    LA football fans

  13. stung4ever1983 says: Jul 1, 2014 7:02 PM

    If you believe taxpayers shouldn’t pay for stadiums, fine. It’s a perfectly legitimate viewpoint.

    But, to be fair, you should also oppose government spending on theater, on music, on the arts in general.

    Because, like it or not, sports adds to an area’s culture and livability just as art does.

  14. alonestartexan says: Jul 1, 2014 7:03 PM

    I’m not exactly a Los Angeles or California homer, being from Texas and all, but lets not forget that other cities have lost teams too.. Cleveland’s lost several teams. Houston lost a team, Baltimore lost a team, St. Louis lost a team, Chicago lost a team, ect, ect..

    Like in most of the cases above, LA lost both the Rams and Raiders for one reason, a new stadium.

    Al Davis, God rest his soul, is the biggest idiot in the world as he was offered a new stadium in LA with a stipulation that he had to share it with a future expansion team, but he thought it was beneath the Raiders to share..

  15. qdog112 says: Jul 1, 2014 7:10 PM

    “Everyone wants the Bills to stay in Western New York. And, if everyone agreed that the only way the Bills could stay was a new stadium, then we should talk about a new stadium.”
    ******************
    So all the socialism-hating, taxpaying citizens are thinking twice about supporting the NFL, the ultimate example of socialism? Well they should. Like it or not, in the NFL, a handful of very wealthy guys are racking in billions, while handing the bill to taxpayers.

    Like in every other publicly supported stadium, it’s extortion. Build it or I will move. The pay back recently is to be granted a Super Bowl, which theoretically helps a given location. Who thinks Buffalo will get a Super Bowl?

  16. charmcitychampions says: Jul 1, 2014 7:15 PM

    To people who say that taxpayers should not pay for stadiums…imo you are “right”…BUT…taxpayers don’t usually get a say. Politicians decide where to spend the money and they don’t let massive revenue streams leave the area (especially in an essentially dilapidated wasteland like western NY). So when the new owner says either build me a stadium or I’m leaving town…guess what will happen. And you all better hope they do demand a new stadium because if they don’t it is an immediate sign that the Bills are leaving town ASAP.

    Their governor is just being smart enough by not offering a free stadium to the next billionaire before they demand one.

    Also, if the new owner is smart and wants to go to a city with a better market, make more money and likely more than double the value of his franchise, why stay? Then Buffalo becomes like the new Rochester after all the big corporations left town.

  17. abninf says: Jul 1, 2014 7:17 PM

    So they have trouble getting fans to come to games already and they want the citizens to pay even more in taxes to fund a new one? Some day the people of NY will be giving 100% of their salary away to taxes.

  18. dolfan1 says: Jul 1, 2014 7:20 PM

    LA!!!!!! Please god….. Don’t want my Dolphins to have to go back to that hell hole!

  19. nyyjetsknicks says: Jul 1, 2014 7:22 PM

    Marshawn Lunch says:
    Jul 1, 2014 6:45 PM
    I’m not so sure that some other municipality would spend any money on the Bills.

    I’ve never understood why taxpayers need to pay for the stadiums. If I were a billionaire, I would pay for the stadium myself and reap all the rewards myself.

    ______________

    Did you not get the Fox News/am radio memo? We should bow down to all rich people because they create jobs only when they’re happy. Once tax dollars build a new stadium and the rich owner has to pay taxes on it, that’s socialism.

  20. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 1, 2014 7:23 PM

    honestly did not know who NYs gov was..

    now I do

  21. daltonsdumptruck says: Jul 1, 2014 7:26 PM

    Pegula is buying the Bills Golisano is building Paychex Stadium in HARBORCENTER. NY State will connect the tax dollars in sent to the City. Upstate will continue to suffer. Transplants will vacation to Upstate New York to root for the Bills and make fun of their friends who never left town and root for the Cowboys

  22. kwickett85 says: Jul 1, 2014 7:28 PM

    Oh, we’ll tax you for everything else and let you enjoy being the highest taxed people in the country, but when it comes to a new football stadium we’re gonna ‘look out’ for you guys.

  23. perkjctc says: Jul 1, 2014 7:41 PM

    The reason cities use taxpayer money to build stadiums is because it stimulates the economy around it. They do hold other events there besides football and every event draws a significant crowd. Those people are spending money at the local hotels, restaurants, shops, not to mention the jobs it provides for staff. The local tv stations take in more money for advertising. There are many positive reasons to invest taxpayers money in a stadium but it’s up to each city to decide if it’s the right decision for them. That being said, I think if taxpayer money is being used the stadium should have a dome so the venue could be used year round.

  24. TheMorningStar says: Jul 1, 2014 7:43 PM

    Hell no, no more taxpayer $$$ for wealthy owners.

    If they don’t like it go find some other suckers to pay for it.

  25. doggeatdogg says: Jul 1, 2014 7:44 PM

    @stung4ever1983

    I never thought about it that way. I live where the city spent sick money on a performing arts centers (about 800 millions), museums, aquariums, and zoos. So why not a football stadium. But then again, those are city owned properties and they pocket all revenues where’s a football stadium is privately owned.

    I think the building of the football stadium should fall on the owner, but they can work with the city to come up with winning incentives if both the owner and the city share in the cost. One stipulation is that the owner does not move the team for 20 years unless they pay the city what is owed.

  26. 6ball says: Jul 1, 2014 7:52 PM

    .
    Q. Who paid for Gillette Stadium, the home of the Patriots?

    A. Patriots owner Bob Kraft
    .

  27. channer81 says: Jul 1, 2014 7:54 PM

    Of the 20 new NFL stadiums built since 1997 beginning with Fedex field. Only 6 of them were privately funded for over 50% of the cost. Washingtons (72%), Philly’s (64%), New England (83%), Ford Field in Detroit ( 75%), The new Meadowlands (100%), and Dallas (63%). Meanwhile you had other stadiums like Lucas oil field at (14%), Cincy’s Paul Brown stadium (6%), B-Mores M&T bank at 10% and finally Tampa Bays Raymond James stadium was 100% taxpayer money.

    Screw most of these cheap owners who want the free handout, there are some good ones that will flip most if not all the bill, and I think tax payers wouldn’t have a problem if it was a 60/40 type deal for a new stadium, but some of these owners got away with straight up robbery.

  28. drwbrsdmndsnxplntn says: Jul 1, 2014 8:09 PM

    There is a catch 22 here. If taxpayers in smart markets didnt help offset media market shortcomings, half the league would be in LA and the other half in NY.

    Don’t wanna pay to keep your team and it’s benefit to family and community? Go ahead and be Omaha. A cynic understands the value of nothing. Do you really NEED new roads? Or museums? Or a new government building?? Get your perspectives focused people, this is such a dumb convorsation to have.

  29. paleandpasty says: Jul 1, 2014 8:33 PM

    Cuomo is awful and he will refuse to help pay for a stadium. He will cripple nys even more than it already is.

  30. dickshotdogs says: Jul 1, 2014 8:38 PM

    It’s et., not ect.

  31. dickshotdogs says: Jul 1, 2014 8:39 PM

    Darn keyboard! It’s etc., not ect.

  32. nflfan1326 says: Jul 1, 2014 8:42 PM

    Helping the labor unions of New York takes a lot of money. Not many resources after you pay a garbage collector $65/hour.

  33. rosstuckershair says: Jul 1, 2014 8:52 PM

    Yep…here it comes as predicted…

    Names are under fire to be changed…No one cared 2 years ago

    Then on cue the NFL owners are the evil 1%ers, and soon to be under scrutiny…How dare they have all that money…No one cared two years ago.

    Anyone care to venture the next step of the NFL under a socialistic society?

    The good that DiBlasio isn’t Buffalo’s Mayor. He would have dug up an offended frontiersman and try to force the Bill to change their name and be publicly owned…

  34. smitty113 says: Jul 1, 2014 8:55 PM

    Now that SEIU will rightfully go under after the lawsuits that are being filed in response to the supreme courts ruling on unions who cares?… But heh? we have an Ivy League grad who specializes in constitutional law leading us in the White House. Not only that but he’s a community organizer. If only it was 3 yrs ago and our leader could recreate the SEIU people in white doctors coats at the White House. Liberalism is dead in the wake of their “biggest achievement in obamacare”.

  35. bschmidt25 says: Jul 1, 2014 9:03 PM

    We may finally be reaching a tipping point on taxpayer funding for new stadiums. There’s only so much money to go around and people can barely pay their own bills these days. Why should they be expected to pick up the tab for a new stadium for a billionaire owner?

  36. icebowler says: Jul 1, 2014 9:05 PM

    They should play in New Jersey like all the other New York teams do.

  37. icebowler says: Jul 1, 2014 9:14 PM

    This will be a case of the taxpayers literally “footing the bills”

  38. nosleeptilsb says: Jul 1, 2014 9:17 PM

    Rome wasnt built in a day, but it was built out of the pockets, and off the backs of Slaves, or Taxpayers, whatever you want to call them. As a Seahawk fan from the beginning, I hated to see the Kingdome implode, but now we have the greatest stadium around. But along with the pricetag for this team, the buyers should have to tote the note on any NEW stadium. Leave the hardworking blue collar workers of Buffalo alone, they have more then paid thier dues.

  39. judalation says: Jul 1, 2014 9:24 PM

    In America, Capitalism does not apply to the rich.. I f I want to start a business I get a loan like everyone else… but if a billionaire wants to build a new stadium they force the taxpayers to flip the bill or threaten to leave? Why not use 100 million of your billion dollars to build it? Afflunenza!

  40. bucsorbust says: Jul 1, 2014 9:51 PM

    Gov. Cuomo spent $140 million on a ridiculous ad campaign to attract new businesses to his state–because he wants to tax the daylights out of them (which is, by the way, why the businesses left in the first place). He wants to talk about waste of money?

  41. stung4ever1983 says: Jul 1, 2014 10:03 PM

    @doggeatdogg

    I don’t know about that. It looks like only 4 of the 32 NFL stadiums are privately owned (Miami, Washington, Carolina, and New England).

    For the new Minnesota stadium, the Vikings have priority access to it something like 20 days out of the year, and I don’t believe they see any revenue from the stadium for the rest of the year. They will, however, pay the state millions in rent.

  42. joetoronto says: Jul 1, 2014 10:14 PM

    “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves,” said Cuomo. “Everyone wants the Bills to stay in Western New York. And, if everyone agreed that the only way the Bills could stay was a new stadium, then we should talk about a new stadium. But I don’t know that that’s the case.”

    Whoot, there it is. Just move baby. :)

  43. gmsalpha says: Jul 1, 2014 10:29 PM

    Let’s hope this thing gets built with a retractable or fixed roof, because if it doesn’t, I can only imagine all the fun and exciting events that building will host in the 9 months where it’s below freezing!

    Kenny Chesney concert in January! Yee-haw!
    Monster Trucks in February!
    Bruce Almighty Fan Club Convention in March!

    Because that will surely be a great revenue stream on non-game days. Or not.

  44. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 1, 2014 10:44 PM

    Glad some of these cities aren’t bowing down to the NFL anymore and giving them whatever they want.

    Listen if you are a billionaire you should pay at an absolute minimum 65 percent of the cost. Taxes are high enough everywhere on gas, income, food, hotels, and any goods n services. Time for these billionaire freeloaders to pay their fair share.

    Benefits as some mentioned above are marginal at best. 4 months out of the year doesn’t generate enough in economic benefit to justify the increased taxes. I actually enjoyed the NFL more when the Browns left. First I didn’t have to watch the crappy Browns and I got more quality games on TV.

  45. granadafan says: Jul 1, 2014 10:47 PM

    “stung4ever1983 says:
    Jul 1, 2014 7:02 PM
    If you believe taxpayers shouldn’t pay for stadiums, fine. It’s a perfectly legitimate viewpoint.

    But, to be fair, you should also oppose government spending on theater, on music, on the arts in general.”
    ==============================================

    Not exactly the same thing. The NFL is a private business. The people running theaters, operas, libraries, etc. are not multi billionaires in an industry worth tens of billions of dollars. I love all sports and think it’s important to work the mind and body. However, you’re just watching a sport and not exercising. In the arts and music, you’re culturally enriched.

    The owners of sports teams can afford their own lavish palaces. There are no other industries in the world which demand that the public build their workplaces. Auto plants build their own. Banks build their own. Biotechs build their own. The NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL? You pay for us!!!!!!!!!

  46. chaney13 says: Jul 1, 2014 10:47 PM

    If the jets and giants can still call them selves “new york”, the 49ers are still “san francisco”, etc. , maybe the bills could move to erie or toronto and still call themselves “buffalo”

  47. doe22us says: Jul 1, 2014 10:53 PM

    Honestly these threats of leaving are hollow at best, there are so many markets out there that can support a viable NFL franchise. Let them leave if they will..

  48. billsin20xx says: Jul 1, 2014 10:57 PM

    On a different note, how much did Cuomo give NY City for the new Yankee stadium and the Brooklyn arena for the Nets and Isles? But he can’t give money to Buffalo for a stadium????

  49. jpmelon says: Jul 1, 2014 11:18 PM

    It really is crazy that a new stadium is being talked about while they are renovating the current stadium.

  50. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 1, 2014 11:26 PM

    People typically overreacting reading too much into it.

    Quite simply all Cuomo is saying is that he’s not going to promise a new owner a completely publicly funded stadium. He’s going to wait for the new owner to surface, mention a need, and then work to meet said owner in the middle to find a balance of taxpayer funds and owner funds. He’s playing the politics game and he’s covering his own rear. It’s quite easy to read between the lines, that is, if you actually read his full comments and not just the headline.

  51. celticsforever says: Jul 1, 2014 11:36 PM

    People of the great state of New York. We will not spend taxpayers money on an NFL stadium… Ahem…. oh here is your 500 million John Mara for your new stadium.

  52. naes says: Jul 1, 2014 11:40 PM

    The writing is on the wall for this franchise to go to London.

    If 2019 is the opportunity to leave it gives the league five full years to build interest.

    If/when the Bills head to London they can stay in the same division. It will give the AFC East four glamor markets. NYC, Boston, Miami and London. Really the same could be said about them moving to Toronto.

  53. nickinneohio says: Jul 1, 2014 11:51 PM

    Gov. had no problem with Yankee stadium. Oh sorry, wrong New York.

  54. lscore says: Jul 1, 2014 11:51 PM

    If you build it…they will come….

    Except in L.A. They don’t care about NFL football there, they proved it twice.

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    Actually it was three times. The Chargers used to be in LA too.

  55. jimthebuilder27 says: Jul 2, 2014 1:09 AM

    Bills are moving to LA…Book it!

  56. jimijammworld says: Jul 2, 2014 5:00 AM

    It’s a election year, so Cuomo has to air on the side of caution. He can’t come right out and say “yes, NYS will commit money to this”.

    The stadium will get done one way or another. There’s even an opportunity for HKS to build a privately funded model, like they have in Indy and shortly Minnesota. Football makes up only 10% of what they do in Indy’s venue and it has generated 2.5 billion in 6 years time.

  57. 315judman says: Jul 2, 2014 7:48 AM

    A new stadium does not have to be a $1B+ monstrosity like Dallas has. Look at the stadiums in PIT, PHI, and NE. Reasonable…

  58. sportsfan18 says: Jul 2, 2014 7:55 AM

    scrp2 says:
    Jul 1, 2014 6:43 PM
    Well it’s not exactly a Stadium. It will be a giant upside-down igloo.

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    well said… beat me to it…

    was gonna say they were going to “market” it as a snow shelter in order to get it built…

  59. arcross12042004scorp15 says: Jul 2, 2014 8:02 AM

    This is a VERY odd turn of events. Nobody was talking about the Bills getting a New Stadium.
    RWS is at this moment undergoing $ 400 Million in renovations. It is already a great place to watch a game, and the renovations were supposed to bring it up to the new vision for NFL Stadiums. Then Gov. Cuomo out of the blue came up with the idea of a new stadium even though the Bills said it wasn’t necessary. The Governor formed a committee and asked various people and asked the Bills to send representatives. Now the Governor is against any public funding ? VERY odd.

  60. ravenswinsuperbowl47 says: Jul 2, 2014 8:04 AM

    A domed stadium in Niagara Falls, NY would attract many more fans from Toronto due to better proximity an easier access, especially if “Buffalo” were replaced by a regional term to include Rochester. A domed stadium in Niagara could also be a 365 day/year facility to get locals out of their igloos into a public recreational facility.

    Although it’s obvious posturing by Cuomo, his adhering to a position that there would be no public funds for a Bills stadium would inevitably lead to the Bills bolting to Toronto (or even London or San Antonio — LA will never get a team back without a stadium deal, either).

  61. phinfanatic84 says: Jul 2, 2014 8:32 AM

    Cuomo is an assclown. He’s fine with spending taxpayers money ($39 million) on creating a database that even the NSA would be proud of (track all registered gun owners medical records, prescription data, police calls to their home and traffic stops). He has been creating panels and committees to reduce our property tax burden yet nothing has ever come from these committees.

    So much for holding the teacher’s union to the fire and having bad teachers held accountable with a evaluation system. He will continue to bankrupt NY with his fiscal policies. He ran on making NY more business friendly and had billboards put up saying that NY was open for business” yet NY is still ranked dead last in terms of being business friendly. Every 4 years NY loses electoral college votes because people are moving out of this state to escape the tax burden or following their jobs when their company leaves NY.

    With Cuomo and NYC mayor Di Blasio, the Liberals are well on their way to their Liberal Utopia. Unfortunately for them, they are going to run out of other people’s money to pay for it!

  62. kissmytaintpatriotsrule says: Jul 2, 2014 8:35 AM

    Cheap skate New York. It’s Bad enough you made New Jersey the home to your other two football teams because you were to cheap to pony up. That state doesn’t deserve to have the one true New York team.

  63. zerole00 says: Jul 2, 2014 9:55 AM

    Hey guys, let’s spending a a couple hundred million on a new stadium instead of education/public infrastructure all so that a private business can make even more money while still having the right to black out games if enough seats aren’t sold.

    Building a new stadium to keep an NFL team is akin to the International Olympic Committee economically raping countries for the “privilege” and “prestige” of hosting the Olympics.

  64. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 2, 2014 10:53 AM

    joetoronto says: Jul 1, 2014 10:14 PM

    “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves,” said Cuomo. “Everyone wants the Bills to stay in Western New York. And, if everyone agreed that the only way the Bills could stay was a new stadium, then we should talk about a new stadium. But I don’t know that that’s the case.”

    Whoot, there it is. Just move baby. :)
    …………………….
    Hilarious you infer that from his statement, when you and I both know it infers exactly the opposite.

  65. notthetroll says: Jul 2, 2014 11:16 AM

    He doesn’t need western NY at all. No surprise of his position.

  66. markpugner says: Jul 2, 2014 11:56 AM

    Please Cuomo I’m not smart enough to spend my own money. I need you to do it for me. Here, steal it from me.

  67. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 2, 2014 11:59 AM

    Everyone needs to slow down, take a step back, and actually read this full article.

    What the man is doing is so unbelievably simple- he’s politicking. He is saying “well we don’t know who the owner is yet, so let’s wait and see what he has to say” before committing to anything. He knows full well though that an agenda of the new owner will be to get a stadium. Cuomo through this statement is now challenging the new owner to come up with some of the money himself, as he should. The new owner will then say he doesn’t want to come up with it all himself, so him and Cuomo will talk, and they will meet in the middle.

    Long story short, this statement from Cuomo is nothing more than a declaration to the potential owners that if they think they wont have to put a penny of their own money down for a new stadium, their mistaken. Nothing more nothing less.

    It’s simple logic. Please, please stop spewing out nonsense. It’s incredibly frustrating.

  68. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 2, 2014 12:02 PM

    qdog112 says: Jul 1, 2014 7:10 PM

    Like in every other publicly supported stadium, it’s extortion. Build it or I will move. The pay back recently is to be granted a Super Bowl, which theoretically helps a given location. Who thinks Buffalo will get a Super Bowl?
    ………………
    For starters, your statement indicates you clearly know nothing about Buffalo. Buffalo is actually on the rise with lots of new jobs and revitalization projects going on in the area. If you had been there, you would also know it’s not even half as bad as the rap it gets.

    Secondly, Detroit got a superbowl after they built their new stadium. I’ve been to Detorit. Trust me, if Detroit can get a superbowl, anyone can.

    Please stop generalizing things that you don’t know anything about. You make yourself look foolish.

  69. keepyerstickontheice says: Jul 2, 2014 1:36 PM

    Cuomo’s not going to commit to anything, because he’s going to be president in 2016.

    “Book it!”

  70. simonator917 says: Jul 2, 2014 5:02 PM

    It would be so nice if ALL of those other municipalities told the NFL where to stick it! They’re always about the free market until they have to spend some of their own money.

  71. cavreconscout says: Jul 3, 2014 5:56 PM

    Maybe they could spend that 10mill renovating the current stadium

  72. cavreconscout says: Jul 3, 2014 5:57 PM

    Meant to say 100mill

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