Norv raves about his quarterback group

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The Vikings have three candidates, in theory, for the quarterback job.  New offensive coordinator Norv Turner likes his various options.

We’ve got a really, really good group,” Turner told KFAN on Monday, via NFL.com.  “We get between 120 to 140 snaps during a training camp day and that is plenty enough time for all the guys to work a rotation and give them bigger reps and evaluate them.”

Some think veteran Matt Cassel, who signed a two-year, $10 million contract after voiding the final year of his prior contract, will be the Week One starter, especially since Turner wanted Cassel last year in Cleveland.  Others think rookie Teddy Bridgewater is being groomed to take over sooner than later.

“I think that Matt Cassel has had an outstanding spring and is getting himself ready to really have a good year,” Turner said. “And we know Teddy’s been really, really impressive and a lot further along than I expected him to be.”

Turner also has been impressed with Christian Ponder, the 2011 first-round pick whose struggles prompted the decision to pick Bridgewater.  Which could prompt some to question whether Turner is merely saying nice things about everyone on the depth chart.

However it plays out, Vikings fans are gradually becoming happier and happier about the decision not to pursue Johnny Manziel.

84 responses to “Norv raves about his quarterback group

  1. meh.

    Prove it when it matters. Cassel has never shown anything more than being a reliable backup. Ponder sucks. Bridgewater… who knows? But the smart money is even IF Teddy turns into an all-pro (and not too many do), he won’t do so until after AP and GJ are toast.

    Better hope all those high draft picks work out Queen fans.

  2. “I feel comfortable in saying that any of these guys could lose us the first game of the playoffs”

    – Norv

  3. The goal: Beat the Green Bay Packers. That’s it. That’s their SuperBowl.

  4. Good golly, Miss Molly. Does anyone really believe this team’s QB situation will be ranked any higher than 32nd overall? Maybe 31st given Oakland’s situation, but certainly no higher than that…

  5. As a Browns fan, I wanted somebody – ANYBODY to step up and take Manziel so that my Browns wouldn’t. Jerry Jones let me down. I hoped the same way with Tebow. I just didn’t see great or even good QB from their games. I wanted Bridgewater. Now I am stuck with Johnny Snowman.

    You Vikings fans are in for a treat. He makes great reads, has great poise and pocket presense. I can’t wait to see him in action – too bad it isn’t with my team.

  6. Wow… want to know how you know this group of quarterbacks is bad? Christian Ponder still manages to look good around them.

  7. Yeah and I bet the Jaguars are raving about their QB situation as well. Clearly this is just Norv trying to make himself popular as the new guy. Deep down he knows he has garbage at the position and Teddy Bustwater will be T-Joke 2.0.

  8. I hate it when the media twists quotes to make their stories better.

    Norv’s full quote:

    “We’ve got a really, really good group of pharmacies here in Minnesota who can provide me with all of the anti-depression medicine that I need. After looking at this group of “Quarterbacks,” I’m gonna need all that I can get.”

  9. We haven’t had a decent offensive coordinator in a couple of decades. I want to have an intelligent opinion of the QB’s but really who knows? Ponder and Cassel were dealing with a porous line and a pop warner game plane and Bridgewater is a rookie with all that entails. I don’t even know who to wish for. I just hope it is better. After enduring Josh Freeman and Donovan McNabb, I can’t believe it could get any worse

  10. For the past 20 years the Packers have been one player (Favre/Rodgers) better than the Vikings. If Bridgewater is good…..those days are over. Poor Packer fans. All they have in life is their team. If Rodgers goes down again, they’ll have nothing to live for.

  11. So not only do you queenies invade the packer threads they also troll for packer fans in their own threads. Pitiful. As far as the qb thing, I was on board until Turner said Ponder looked great. Now you know he was blowing smoke! Anxious to see TB play though!

  12. As a Viking fan, my only comment is: Let’s see what happens on the field, because that’s the only place results matter.

  13. Here’s a safe bet….there will be more paranoid packer-troll comments on this story, than those by Viking and all other fan groups combined……simply pathetic

  14. My biggest concern going into the draft was not to get Johnny Football. That happened.

    I wanted Bortles but he went early. But taking Teddy was OK in my book if they didn’t force him into anything too soon.

    But, getting anyone besides Manziel was top priority.

  15. The Packers are one player removed from needing to play half their home games in Milwaukee again to attract fans to their home games..

  16. I see all the qb’s must have beat him in Madden. Is it any wonder that Turner has to find a new job every couple years with talent evaluations like that? Man that franchise is the gift that just keeps on giving.

  17. What would expect Norv to say about his QB’s? Of course he would say “We’ve got a really, really good group.” Few coaches will say what they truly feel about a player or position group. Norv can’t say this early on, “Hey, at least we will get to draft ______ QB this next year.”

    Maybe he is right though, maybe Cassel is the QB he was filling in for Brady, or maybe Ponder may show he was worth a high 1st round pick or maybe Bridgewater will show that he is a great QB. I doubt any of these three will be true, but who knows.

  18. Teddy Beidgewater was touted the Number 1 pick before the draft process andhe dropped to 32 overall cause a couple of overthrown passes crazy!!!

  19. The packers understand losing…..2 decades of losing……1973-1991…..I mean…..YOU HAD 1 WINNING SEASON!!!!!!

    Now, that is championship material!!!!!!

    Vikes own the division, even when they are down, they get up after a few years.

    The packers, uhh, well…..2 decades is beyond down!!!!

  20. Norv is stuck in between a rock and a hard place. The media is suppose to ask questions, Norv is stuck giving the answers and telling the truth is hardly an option.

    But in the final analysis, it doesn’t even matter what he says because the only thing that counts is what happens out on the field. In that regard, the Viking’s last place finishes in 3 out of the last 4 seasons will tell you all you really need to know about the QB play in Minnesota. And for those that think Bustwater is suddenly the option, please, we had to listen to the Viking trolls telling us all about Ponder for the last 3 years. There is a reason he dropped in the draft.

  21. When you have 3 QB’s you really have none. Sorry, but Cassel and Ponder aren’t even “has-beens”. They never were. You “might” have a future starter in ‘Ol Teddy, but who knows? I wouldn’t bet on it.

    What they do have is a fiery defensive minded new coach, a very tried and true OC in Norv Turner, a very exciting emerging star in Cordarelle Patterson, and the best running back in football. Sorry Shady McCoy, I love ya, but AP still #1. Sucks they have to play outdoors. The dome would have been a major advantage.

  22. The Zimmer/Minnesota marriage should be an interesting one. I personally think Mike Zimmer is a good motivator and has the tools to become a very good NFL head coach.

    He’s a straight-forward guy who has honor, loyalty, integrity…he’s really a man’s man. He tells it like it is, and has knowledge of the sport and the world outside of 5 miles of his birthplace. He is also a friendly, jovial, blue collar guy that isn’t afraid to call a spade a spade.

    In other words, he is everything a Minnesotan isn’t.

  23. veence69 says:
    Jul 7, 2014 3:06 PM

    The Packers are one player removed from needing to play half their home games in Milwaukee again to attract fans to their home games..

    Did you really just go there? Having the longest streak of sellouts, as well as season ticket waiting list, not to mention the 3rd highest attendance total in all the NFL makes you look foolish. The queens on the other hand rank 30th and are on the verge of a blackout every home game unless they play the Packers in which the Pack fans take over and sell it out.

  24. Norv is just pumping things up a bit.

    Cassel is the kind of guy who would benefit from Norv, so I think he is partially right. But Ponder is terrible and Bridgewater is average at best.

  25. This perception that persists that Norv is still somekind of offensive genius/QB whisperer is laughable. Look at the Chargers after Norv left. A rookie head coach in Mike McCoy took a worse team than Norv ever had to the second round of the playoffs after Norv failed with more three straight years. Not to mention Rivers looking like absolute garbage his last few years under Norv.

  26. I like the (temporary?) removal of the voting option.

    What I’d REALLY like to see is the removal of comments. And PFT tracking their traffic to the site over the time it is down.

    I suspect that it would go way down… but the folks who actually come to read just the articles would probably show who the real fans who just want info are…

  27. packerfansarefatdrunkandstupid says:
    Jul 7, 2014 2:51 PM

    For the past 20 years the Packers have been one player (Favre/Rodgers) better than the Vikings. If Bridgewater is good…..those days are over. Poor Packer fans. All they have in life is their team. If Rodgers goes down again, they’ll have nothing to live for.
    _________________________________

    I forgot….guys like Reggie White and Charles Woodson had nothing to do with those years. Meanwhile….your grade A phenoms were squaring up with pontoons boats with a side order of hookers and blow.

    The only positive I see from your statement is “If Bridgewater is good…” That’s a gem, because his pathetic demise is already in your head because last week he was winning the next 3 super bowls.

    You guys are pathetic.

  28. 2ruefan says:
    Jul 7, 2014 4:14 PM

    I like the (temporary?) removal of the voting option.

    What I’d REALLY like to see is the removal of comments. And PFT tracking their traffic to the site over the time it is down.

    I suspect that it would go way down… but the folks who actually come to read just the articles would probably show who the real fans who just want info are…

    ———-

    If you want to see the “removal” of comments, don’t read them. There. Removed.

  29. Norv is just telling lies to try to generate false confidence just like Greg Jennings tried to do when he said that Christian Ponder was an up and coming star before last season.

    As for the 2 decades comment…. A Vikings fan would gladly suffer through 2 decades of winning nothing after winning 5 championships in 7 years prior. Of course they wouldn’t know what that feels like.

    2 decades of nothing >> 5+ decades of nothing

    Vikes fans are bad at math.

  30. Look, I’ve got no dog in the Vikings/Packers fight – but Vikes fans really have to shut up until they actually win something. Seriously. Being better than Cleveland is nothing to brag about.

  31. How many here criticizing Minnesota’s coaches and players have:

    1. Played in the NFL? – 0
    2. Worked as an OC? – 0
    3. Worked as an HC? – 0
    4. Scouted for an NFL team? – 0

    So you are spouting nothing but hot air.

  32. bridgeh2o says:
    Jul 7, 2014 3:31 PM
    The packers understand losing…..2 decades of losing……1973-1991…..I mean…..YOU HAD 1 WINNING SEASON!!!!!!

    Now, that is championship material!!!!!!

    Vikes own the division, even when they are down, they get up after a few years.
    ———————-

    Conveniently forgot to mention that they won 5 championships in 7 years before that. And then 2 more since.

    Meanwhile the Vikings while “getting up after a few years” whatever the heck that means HAVE WON NOTHING! Not even 1 championship in 50+ years. Great job at “getting up when they are down”

  33. I can always tell a Packers’ fan comment when they have nothing better to say than referring to the Vikings as “Queens” or deride Vikings’ fans. When you grow up, I’ll be willing to have a real conversation with you, but until then, here’s a pacifier for you, because you must be in pain because of teething.

  34. Norvel couldn’t win anything meaningful with Phyllis freaking Rivers, but he’s gonna do something with these bums?

    Good luck with that.

    Going into a season with Cassel as your starter is basically waving the white flag. It’s a three team division, and this ain’t one of em.

  35. Norv should have retired with his dignity rather than being associated with the vikings and their QB’s.

    Last season’s starter Christian “short ball” Ponder
    Back up Matt Cassel
    and the rookie with some of the smallest hands ever measured at the Combine.

    Don’t count out Christian Ponder “winning” the starting job again.

    Norv should know better because he has only seen the viking QB’s practice against the porous viking defense; in shorts.

    If those three are really, really, good QB’s then what does it say about the the 31 teams on the NFL with better QB’s ?

    Poor old Norv. This is not the way to finish an NFL coaching career.

  36. The Vikings’ quarterback situation is the best it’s been since 2005, before Culpepper shredded both knees. Favre had a good year, but you knew it was a short-term thing so you couldn’t get too optimistic. Now we’ve seen that Cassel is a solid veteran who can succeed when he has talent around him. He’ll be fine this year. Bridgewater has looked fantastic so far and no one outside of Wisconsin has anything negative to say about him. At worst, he’ll be competent throughout his career, which is a lot more than we usually get around here. At best, he’ll be a perennial All-Pro. He has that kind talent. Ponder is irrelevant and will hopefully be traded in training camp. People talking down the Vikings’ quarterbacks are just hoping their uninformed statements are correct.

  37. the rookie with some of the smallest hands ever measured at the Combine
    _____

    Since you’re so fascinated by hand size, here’s some stats for you. There were 18 quarterbacks other than TB at the combine this year. Eight of them had the same size hands or smaller. The median hand size was 9 3/8″, which is 1/8″ larger than Bridgewater’s. Those hands belonged to Blake Bortles. Bridgewater had larger hands than Derek Carr and Aaron Murray. The quarterbacks with the largest hands were drafted very late or not at all. Keep clinging to that hope that hand size will be Bridgewater’s downfall.

  38. Pro Days for QB’s don’t matter… unless a guy tanks at one. The Vikings best QB has been, and remains, Christian Ponder. Cassel is nothing more than a backup. Bridgewater is a rookie and while the Minnesota media will hype him all day, I will have to see the results on the field before I’ll be anything but a skeptic.

  39. Everyone should wait until Bridgewater plays regularly before predicting he is the second coming of St. Brett. Predicting his SuperBowl caliber prowess before the first game starts is as unrealistic as assuming he will lead the league in lost fumbles because of his small hands. Let’s wait and see, shall we?

  40. During the season all you heard was “Tank for Teddy!!!” Everyone was after him.

    Teddy has a few bad passes thrown and goes from potential top pick to 32nd overall.

    The Vikings got EXTREMELY lucky to land what could be the best thing for their team since they drafted Peterson.

    I cant wait for this kid to light it up.

  41. Clinging to continuously criticizing a qb’s hand size as a put down is funny to me.
    The very subject is a moot point. Like bumpin uglies, it’s the motion in ocean that counts.

  42. Norv had weeden as his starting QB, Wallace as his back up, and Brian Hoyer as his third string QB. If that’s all the better he can evaluate talent, good luck to you Vikes fans!

  43. Small hands are a big deal. It wasn’t long ago you had a quarterback with small hands who led the league in fumbles…remember him his name was Daunte Fumblepepper.

    Not to mention Bilgewaters shriveling up under the first real pressure he has experienced during the combine and has to resort to blaming on not having gloves.

  44. GenXJay says:
    Jul 7, 2014 7:43 PM

    Clinging to continuously criticizing a qb’s hand size as a put down is funny to me.
    The very subject is a moot point. Like bumpin uglies, it’s the motion in ocean that counts.

    Said like someone who is obviously short changed as well.

  45. swede700 says:
    Jul 7, 2014 4:56 PM
    I can always tell a Packers’ fan comment when they have nothing better to say than referring to the Vikings as “Queens” or deride Vikings’ fans. When you grow up, I’ll be willing to have a real conversation with you, but until then, here’s a pacifier for you, because you must be in pain because of teething.
    ……………………………………………………………………….
    Really? Have you read anything your buddies write? PFTpoet? AAronrodgershastinyhands? and countles otheter? Talk about kids.

  46. I believe Christian Ponder could be a decent QB but we weren’t able to see that because our Offensive Coordinator was garbage before Norv Turner. Musgrave is complete opposite of Turner with his super conservative play calling. With Norv I believe we may actually see the ball go down the field and the Tight End used properly.

  47. Get serious, is Norv Turner relavant! Has he ever had a winner? Don’t try to give him credit for what happen in Dallas with a team of all pros. His entire history of work proves he’s a looser. Think of him as the Redskins coach. Total looser.

  48. Cassell: solid backup.
    Ponder: young Kevin Kolb 2.0
    Bridgewater: Wilson? Rogers? or Fitzpatrick? We have to see him play with the bullets flying but he looks really good on tape.

  49. NORV SUCKS!!!!! He escapes harsh critixisn because he is a nice guy. He couldn’t do anything with Brees, rivers. Tomlinson. He rode the coat tails of Jimmy Johnsons brain.

  50. You know what teams don’t have to send their OC out into the press to hype of how good their QBs have looked?

    Teams with good QBs…

  51. tokyosandblaster says:
    Jul 7, 2014 11:49 PM
    The Packers actually own the division.

    —————————————

    Does this mean a stock sale for their fans will be coming soon?

  52. rudedog:

    I won’t excuse Vikings’ fans who do the same, but you have to admit, there are significantly more Packer fans that choose to deride Vikings’ fans than the reverse. It’s not even close. The immaturity of many “Cheeseheads” (see, I can do it too) is clearly evident.

  53. swede700 says:
    Jul 8, 2014 11:59 AM
    rudedog:

    I won’t excuse Vikings’ fans who do the same, but you have to admit, there are significantly more Packer fans that choose to deride Vikings’ fans than the reverse. It’s not even close. The immaturity of many “Cheeseheads” (see, I can do it too) is clearly evident.

    —-

    Yeah, you’re way wrong on this one.

  54. Pursue Manziel? How could they have? Cleveland nabbed him before the Vikings pick. They weren’t gonna trade up when another highly touted QB still on the board.

  55. “However it plays out, Vikings fans are gradually becoming happier and happier about the decision not to pursue Johnny Manziel.”

    On this Mr Florio, you and I agree. The fascination with Johnny has come and gone quicker than a Minnesota summer. Happy to have Bridgewater.

  56. First game against the Rams should be a good “tell” of how good Zimmer’s got a handle on his coaching staff or not, especially Norv who has some “baggage stories” from earlier jobs.

    By wk 5 or 6, u’ll get a better idea what these Vikes are capable of, playoff wise, for the yr. Best guess, they’ll be only competitively close, no matter what their record is, tho’ likely sub .500 with only Buffalo/Miami games to look fwd to afterwards.

    Then again, who knows? All NFL players put their pants on one leg at a time, so anythings possible. I think Zimm & Zig have longer term plan in mind, and need some more yrs in drafts & players learning Zimm’s “system.”

  57. Cassel will be fine to start the year as long as the Oline gives him time to throw. Last year the line was just putrid. Eventually we will see TB and see what happens.

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