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Auction house disputes Jim Brown’s claim that ring was stolen

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The auction house that is selling Jim Brown’s 1964 NFL championship ring insists that it was obtained legally, despite Brown’s contention that it was stolen.

Josh Evans, chairman of Lelands.com, told the Pioneer Press that his company obtained the ring legally and that Brown has known for years that the relative he gave the ring sold it to a collector.

We never sell anything that has been stolen or not authenticated,” Evans said. “It’s unfortunate that [Brown] has gone in this direction, but it came from a family member who turned around and sold it.”

Evans said he was involved in a previous sale of the ring, and that Brown saw the ring at a sports memorabilia show in 1998 and never claimed it was stolen.

“We advertised selling the ring at a show in the Midwest,’’ Evans said. “I think it was in Cleveland. And Jim was going to be at the show signing autographs. He called and we talked and he said he would be there. He was very polite. At the show, he came over to the booth and asked to see the ring. I showed it to him. He looked at it and he studied it and he knew it was his. And that was it. He never said anything.”

And so Lelands is still selling the ring. The current bid is $36,602.50.

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56 Responses to “Auction house disputes Jim Brown’s claim that ring was stolen”
  1. 1pwrightt says: Jul 8, 2014 12:35 PM

    Jim Brown reminds me of a cranky old man. When he doesn’t get his way he starts acting like a diva.

  2. xlichamps says: Jul 8, 2014 12:36 PM

    Absolutely cannot stand this guy, go away already.

  3. steelerben says: Jul 8, 2014 12:38 PM

    The top bidder’s name?

    Johnny Manziel.

    He knows it is the only way he’ll see a ring in Cleveland.

  4. hodous says: Jul 8, 2014 12:39 PM

    I believe he may have sold it off or lost it in some fashion which it arrived to the auction house. Having done business with such establishments in the past they are very thorough with their investigations into items before a sale. It takes money from their pockets as an escrow entity if the item fails to transfer ownership later down the road, and they can even be sued for hosting it and liable for time wasted including exorbitant legal fees.

    That being said he may be mounting a case for suing the NFL because, due to concussion damage, he simple forgot the sale or transfer took place in his past.

    That was my attempt at humor for those who simply didn’t get the attempt.

  5. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Jul 8, 2014 12:39 PM

    “Back in 1983, a 47-year old Jim Brown said he could still play in the NFL.”

    Brown was great in his era, but some of his statements are debatable.

    Also, I wonder how Brown in his prime would do in the modern era. There were no Patrick Willis, Haloti Ngata and J.J. Watt type of players in the age when Brown excelled.

    All Pros of the Jim Brown era included Art Donovan — who lovable and hilarious as Artie was was — looked like the inspiration for the Michelin Man when he donned his away uniform.

    Similarly, there were no Adrian Petersons strapping it up back in the day either. Football and the NFL have evolved profoundly in the last half-century.

  6. jerrysglassescleaner says: Jul 8, 2014 12:39 PM

    Very messed up a family member would do that. If you don’t want the ring, give it back or pass it on to another family member to keep a family heirloom in the family. Money changes everything. Even character. Don’t trust anyone. Ill give Mr.Brown a “get out of a troll” free card. Just blame it on age.

  7. abninf says: Jul 8, 2014 12:41 PM

    I do belioeve Brown is lying. I can see maybe giving a championship ring to your mama, but anyone else is just pure stupidity.

  8. valentino8100 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:41 PM

    Some players retire and make great ambassadors of the games, and while some great players go on to make a habit of simply embarrassing themselves and the sport. Dear Jim, keep your mouth shut and let your game film be your legacy.

  9. dickshotdogs says: Jul 8, 2014 12:42 PM

    A once great player and man that has let the modern era unveil his disdain for the amount of money players make in today’s NFL. It is oh so obvious. A part of me feels sorry for him, a part of me doesn’t. Good luck, Mr. Brown.

  10. jayhawk6 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:43 PM

    Jim Brown seems to be offering too little, too late.

  11. markpackman says: Jul 8, 2014 12:43 PM

    Maybe he should suit up, join a team, and win another one! LOL

  12. kd75 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:45 PM

    Ever file a police report Jim?

    If not, possession is 9/10 of the law.

  13. kd75 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:48 PM

    ps: I wouldn’t pay $36k for a ring that probably wouldn’t fit.

  14. scrp2 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:49 PM

    Eric Dickerson’s goggles is also up for auction. These were also a “gift” to a dubious family member.

  15. brokebackbrees says: Jul 8, 2014 12:50 PM

    Come to the Saints! Even at your age you will be best player in our backfield.

  16. wtfru2 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:51 PM

    That’s what alzheimer’s does to you, you forget what you did.

  17. ducksk says: Jul 8, 2014 12:53 PM

    Jimmy, your caught in a burning ring of fire. Liar liar pants on fire. Please go away. If your’re not over 60 nobody remembers you anyway.

  18. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 8, 2014 12:58 PM

    But it was said before he confirmed it was his ring, now this is saying he didn’t say anything. Something isn’t adding up here. Where’s the moment of confirmation occurring, and how did they know he knew it was his ring if he said nothing?

  19. allhailkingflacco says: Jul 8, 2014 12:59 PM

    steelerben says:
    Jul 8, 2014 12:38 PM

    The top bidder’s name?

    Johnny Manziel.

    He knows it is the only way he’ll see a ring in Cleveland.

    _________________________________

    Even though the above was sort of funny it raises an interesting prospect for Manziel.

    If Manziel purchased the ring and then gave it to Brown, he would acquire a get out of jail free card with the Browns fans. He’s going to need it too.

  20. coltzfan166 says: Jul 8, 2014 12:59 PM

    Exactly…the ring was stolen by the family member. If he wanted to sell it, he would’ve handed it off himself, not let the family member give it away.

    My guess is that if the 1998 story is true, he just didn’t care about getting back but has since had a change of heart.

  21. folkcrusader says: Jul 8, 2014 12:59 PM

    Interesting that Leland’s advertised that Brown had confirmed the ring as authentic, but now say he looked at it and said nothing. Both parties seem to have difficulties matching statements.

  22. ravensfan48 says: Jul 8, 2014 1:00 PM

    One thing that is not debatable is that the relative he gave the ring to is classless. Jim Brown has a net worth of over $50 million, I am sure he would have bought the ring back if they are experiencing financial difficulties.

  23. lks311 says: Jul 8, 2014 1:01 PM

    Does Leland’s have a letter of authenticity of Brown’s statement? Did Brown ever file a stolen property report?

    Somebody’s lying.

  24. davisacross says: Jul 8, 2014 1:09 PM

    If you take 8 $20 bills, and roll them up, it makes a perfect ring holder. Wait, now it all makes sense.

  25. eaglesfan290 says: Jul 8, 2014 1:12 PM

    Ok, so the auction house showed him the ring, but didn’t try to get him to sign a certificate of authenticity?

    Anyone who sells this kind of stuff knows it’s all about CYA, the fact they didn’t get him to sign anything when he viewed it or had an appraiser present when he viewed it tells me they are trying to make a plausible story now to do exactly that CYA.

    I mean at least get a picture of him looking it over to show some chain of custody.

  26. johnodocks says: Jul 8, 2014 1:12 PM

    Whatever the true story is, the auction house is getting free advertising.

  27. sameer1138 says: Jul 8, 2014 1:13 PM

    We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false!

  28. ravenmuscle says: Jul 8, 2014 1:17 PM

    Sounds similar to the OJ Simpson saga when he tried to reacquire his memorabilia at that hotel in Las Vegas….only Jim isn’t going to the auction house with his posse and a weapon. These guys sell or give their stuff away and then want it back when they see someone is making some money off the sale.

  29. iranuke says: Jul 8, 2014 1:20 PM

    I have no idea weather or not the ring is stolen, but just because the ring came from a family member does not mean that the ring is not stolen. Family members steal from each other all the time.

  30. jm91rs says: Jul 8, 2014 1:24 PM

    Jim must be mellowing out in his old age. Back in the day he would have beat the you know what out of the guy selling the ring, and possibly thrown his wife / girlfriend off another balcony just because he was angry.

  31. getyourownname says: Jul 8, 2014 1:52 PM

    “Auction house disputes Jim Brown’s claim that ring was stolen”

    This is my shocked face.

  32. thegreatgabbert says: Jul 8, 2014 1:53 PM

    The Auction House would like to authenticate this guy claiming to be James Brown. Using state of the art carbon dating procedures.

  33. jjackwagon says: Jul 8, 2014 1:57 PM

    The top bidder’s name?

    Matt Schaub.

    He knows it is the only way he’ll see a ring in Oakland.

  34. elgranclavero says: Jul 8, 2014 2:03 PM

    If i could i’d buy Jim Brown his ring and give it back to him.
    Im surprised that no one with the $$ has stepped up and bought Brown his ring back.

    He has positively influenced many in the NFL and beyond.

    To me it would be a good gesture.

  35. buddysguys says: Jul 8, 2014 2:06 PM

    but they do agree Trent Richardson is ordinary.

  36. granadafan says: Jul 8, 2014 2:15 PM

    The top bidders? The entire Vikings fanbase could pony up only $36,602.50 of their life savings… collectively. That’s the only way they’ll ever see a championship ring.

  37. mrlaloosh says: Jul 8, 2014 2:18 PM

    “GET OFF MY LAWN!”………Jim Brown.

  38. bridgeh2o says: Jul 8, 2014 2:30 PM

    Ok…..I’ve been gone for awhile……why no thumbs up or thumbs down anymore??

  39. bridgeh2o says: Jul 8, 2014 2:36 PM

    granadafan says: Jul 8, 2014 2:15 PM

    The top bidders? The entire Vikings fanbase could pony up only $36,602.50 of their life savings… collectively. That’s the only way they’ll ever see a championship ring.

    bridgeh2o says:

    The do have an NFL Championship ring as they won the NFL Championship in 1969.

    Now there you go!!!!

  40. nosleeptilsb says: Jul 8, 2014 2:38 PM

    He will eventually blame it on race, always does.

  41. baddegg says: Jul 8, 2014 2:49 PM

    Jim Brown is insane.

  42. howiehandles says: Jul 8, 2014 2:57 PM

    “Also, I wonder how Brown in his prime would do in the modern era. There were no Patrick Willis, Haloti Ngata and J.J. Watt type of players in the age when Brown excelled.”

    You do realize that the greats of those days, guys like Butkus, Huff, Nitschke, Atkins, Deacon Jones, Merlin Olsen, Alex Karras, and Willie Davis, were pretty good. Check the Hall of Fame.

  43. rukkus1 says: Jul 8, 2014 3:25 PM

    If Jim Brown was supposedly at the first auction, and he was happy and polite…

    it stands to reason that it wasn’t really Jim Brown.

    Just saying

  44. trytobnimble says: Jul 8, 2014 3:27 PM

    And the PFT mouth breather comments are out in full force once again. Their complete lack of humanity never disappoints.

  45. bamboozle99 says: Jul 8, 2014 3:38 PM

    Maybe he was just protecting this family member at the time. Who does know how that ring ended up on auction? I love to see anyone talk to Jim Browns face the way they’re commenting here. Talk about keypad tough guys.

  46. BigAlHeBDMan says: Jul 8, 2014 3:40 PM

    Too bad he retired before the Super Bowl era. Maybe if he suits up for the Brownies, they can finally win a Super Bowl ring

  47. demskinsbaby says: Jul 8, 2014 4:05 PM

    Wow.. there seem to be a lot of people in here that act like they have first hand knowledge or that they know Jim Brown so well. This is incredible how you can fashion a delusional opinion to the point where you actually believe your own assumption. Fascinating.

  48. demskinsbaby says: Jul 8, 2014 4:06 PM

    I wonder if this is the same auction house that sold O.J. Simpson stolen property…. hmmmmm

  49. sportsfan18 says: Jul 8, 2014 6:35 PM

    ialwayswantedtobeabanker says:
    Jul 8, 2014 12:39 PM
    “Back in 1983, a 47-year old Jim Brown said he could still play in the NFL.”

    Brown was great in his era, but some of his statements are debatable.

    Also, I wonder how Brown in his prime would do in the modern era. There were no Patrick Willis, Haloti Ngata and J.J. Watt type of players in the age when Brown excelled.

    All Pros of the Jim Brown era included Art Donovan — who lovable and hilarious as Artie was was — looked like the inspiration for the Michelin Man when he donned his away uniform.

    Similarly, there were no Adrian Petersons strapping it up back in the day either. Football and the NFL have evolved profoundly in the last half-century.

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    another way to say this is that today, all the players in the league are much closer to each other in talent.

    this is true in baseball, basketball and football.

    in the old days there wasn’t year round training. they got off season jobs, went to spring training or preseason OUT of shape played their way into shape.

    Some were really good players and others weren’t nearly as good in the old days.

    Now, there’s enough money, they train year round, with cameras to film them training, running, swinging the bat etc…

    Players used to smoke in the dugout’s and in the locker room’s at half-time in the NBA and definitely in hockey.

    today the majority of pro athletes take very good care of themselves, watch what they eat etc…

    the talent level from the top to the bottom on rosters and teams is much tighter than it used to be. there isn’t as much of a gap in strength, speed etc…

    in yesteryear, there were huge gaps between the top players and teams and those who were last on the squad and last place teams in the league.

    that means that those who were really good were able to get their stats against weaker competition.

    When Wilt Chamberlain played, how many players like him were there?

    what was the average height, weight, jumping height of athletes in the NBA when Wilt played?

    Today, there are many great athletes that can jump out of the gym but CAN’T play basketball.

    back then that athleticism separated them… today it’s a dime a dozen.

  50. countyk66ers says: Jul 8, 2014 8:08 PM

    You could also say that because there were fewer teams the average player was better and players that are in the league now would not have made a roster spot then. Most players played the entire game and some on both sides of the ball. They were tougher, playing through injuries and with low salaries. Jim Brown was the best running back of his time and probably of all time.

  51. dhardy8207 says: Jul 8, 2014 8:10 PM

    I’m sorry but with all due respect every time I see him or his name I think about “I’m gonna get ya sucker”. He was absolutely a scream in that movie because of that bunyon he had…LOL…

    It is unfortunate that with some family members the love of money would make them sell their own mother. They didn’t play for it, didn’t go through all the nicks of the game to get to that level so they can hardly appreciate what he endured to win obtain that ring..

  52. donnymacjack says: Jul 8, 2014 9:26 PM

    If Jim Brown has a net worth of over $5 million why doesn’t he just buy (win bid) the ring back? If he thinks it’s stolen and doesn’t want to buy it back, then why not take some of that $5 million, hire an attorney and sue to get it back? Or file suit to put a freeze on the auction until the parties can work things out, out of court.

    By just complaining about it but doing nothing I tend to think the auction company’s story has a ring of truth to it. (Pardon the pun?) But seriously, there are just too many other actions Brown could take if it were truly stolen. We are definitely not hearing the entire story here.

  53. riverhorsey says: Jul 8, 2014 11:18 PM

    Thought it would be worth a lot more than 36k.

  54. bobzilla1001 says: Jul 9, 2014 2:00 AM

    Chuck Noll was a “messenger guard” for Paul Brown in Cleveland. Noll was called upon to block for Jim Brown. Noll weighed 200 pounds when he played. To say that Jim Brown played against players the size of today’s players would be inaccurate.

  55. daveshingle says: Jul 9, 2014 2:18 AM

    This might be a concussion issue.

  56. jgintx says: Jul 9, 2014 8:35 AM

    Great player and always was a jerk. Brown has a history of not liking anything he doesn’t control. He’s probably broke and hoping to get paid off so he will just go away.

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