Andre Reed thinks Richard Sherman wouldn’t have been able to cover Andre Reed

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News flash:  Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman loves him some him.  Which makes plenty of people feel the opposite of love for him.

Former Bills receiver Andre Reed, who’ll finally enter the Hall of Fame later this year, was asked by a participant at the 27th Annual Jim Kelly Football Camp whether Sherman could have covered Reed in Reed’s prime.

Hell no,” Reed told the kids, to their delight, via Syracuse.com.  (Calm down, Church Lady; they’ve heard — and said — a lot worse than “hell”.)

“Look, Richard Sherman is a really good player,” Reed added.  “But he isn’t a Deion [Sanders] or a [Rod] Woodson yet, even if he thinks he is.”

The most common criticism of Sherman comes from the system the Seahawks use.  Sherman stays on the left side of the formation, and he’s never asked to spend the game shadowing the opposition’s best receiver.  Sherman also benefits from the presence of a potent pass rush and two of the best safeties, Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor, of the last generation.

189 responses to “Andre Reed thinks Richard Sherman wouldn’t have been able to cover Andre Reed

  1. “Look, Richard Sherman is a really good player,” Reed added. “But he isn’t a Deion [Sanders] or a [Rod] Woodson yet, even if he thinks he is.”

    Yet he’s paid more then both those guys combined….

  2. It’s harder to cover a side of the field than one guy because you have to prepare for 5-6 guys as opposed to just watching film on one. Further, Sherman has shadowed the other teams top WR on numerous occasions, like Megatron in 2012, Larry Fitzgerald, and Anquan Boldin in week 2 (0 catches). Give me a break.

  3. So when Andre Reed is asked and says he’s better he’s being real, but when Sherman is asked and says his honest opinion he’s the jerk? Right.

  4. I don’t see any way anyone could put Sherman as a top CB….. nowhere near the shutdown guys.. he doesn’t even play the shutdown role, he is a limited guy that used marketing tricks to associate his name with top CBs

  5. osiris33 says:
    Jul 11, 2014 6:58 PM
    It’s harder to cover a side of the field than one guy because you have to prepare for 5-6 guys as opposed to just watching film on one. Further, Sherman has shadowed the other teams top WR on numerous occasions, like Megatron in 2012, Larry Fitzgerald, and Anquan Boldin in week 2 (0 catches). Give me a break.
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    The next time Richard Sherman covers Calvin Johnson without help over the top will be the 1st.
    #Givemeabreak

  6. What is there to talk about people? Most picks and passes defended last three years with the least amount of balls thrown his way. Add a ring and you have the best CB by a mile, not that hard to understand.

  7. Andre who?
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    What are you, in the 5th grade? If you’re under 20 years of age, stop providing all of your wise insight on football. You know nothing.

  8. Fewest targets, most interceptions.

    Everyone coming here to issue upvotes and downvotes according to their emotional response towards Richard Sherman needs to keep that in mind.

    Fewest targets, most interceptions.

    You mad, bro?

  9. Sherman is only responsible for small area of field, uses sidelines well and gets away with illegal jams/interference…. with absolutely no deep responsibility… he does have very good ball skills

    can you even imagine Sherman covering a legit #1 or 2 WR w/o help?

  10. Best corner to ever play the game was Woodson. Could shut you down, come up and stuff the run, blitz and actually make the sack or tackle and could house it if he picked one off. Best shutdown corner ever was Primetime. Both Peterson and Hayden are better corners than Sherman. You can jump routes and gamble a lot more when there is an all pro playing behind you. Sherman is a product of the system he plays in and the guys around him.

    Really really good ball player but let’s see him man up with no one over top against Megatron, B-Marsh, AJ Green etc.

  11. The criticism that Sherman doesn’t follow the top receiver always fails to address the fact that Sherman has to then study every receiver thoroughly every week rather than just one guy.

    sorry to the haters that Sherman isn’t on your team.

  12. If it was just Seattle’s defensive scheme that made Sherman so good don’t you think other teams would have caught on by now? Maybe made their cornerbacks just as relevant in the top DB conversation?Oh, you have to have world class talent to make a scheme work that well. That’s right. You must have forgotten.

    Also, keep your comments about how much you hate reading stories about Richard Sherman to yourself. You love it. You certainly can’t wait to read it and then comment about how much you hate it. YOU are the reason they keep printing them. YOU are the reason they keep putting a mic in his face. You are greedily consuming all they can print!

    Quit complaining and admit that you’d LOVE Sherman if he was doing the exact same thing on your team.

  13. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says:
    Jul 11, 2014 7:24 PM

    Who’s Richard Sherman?

    Oh wait, the guy who got burned on a touchdown on a double move by Jarius Wright, thrown by Christian Ponder?
    ______________________

    Who are the Minnesota Vikings?

    Oh wait, the guys who lost that game by three touchdowns?

  14. Earl thomas and cam chancelor are two of the best safeties of this generation?!!!!! What?!!!!!! Give them more than a year of being part of a very good defense, would ya?

  15. Some of you seahag fans and your childish crushes on this team. Whats a matter, worried there gonna leave town if you don’t suck up to them? Anyone who gets to the top of any profession is gonna think they are the best. Some of you need to grow up

  16. I was shooting a Niners v Bills game at Candlestick (the no punts game) and Reed ran me over during a sideline play. He stopped helped me up and asked if I was OK. Classy dude!

  17. Love how shehawk fans gloat about shermans best game shutting down a 40 yr old tight end playing receiver and runs a 5.5 40yrd dash boldin.

    Sherman would get abused playing against players like Reed, rice, Irvin, McDuffie, cater… Sherman is the most over rated player in the league. Give me the corner who covers the best player on the other team rather than the 2nd and 3rd stringers.

  18. It’s amusing to hear “Sherman has help over the top” “Sherman has safety help.” So do all other corners play on teams where they are the lone DB and don’t play with free safeties or strong safeties? Every CB gets safety help. If anything, Sherman gets less because Kam plays in the box a lot to eliminate the TE threat so it’s up to Thomas to help Sherman or Maxwell cover the top but it’s one safety help compared to two like other teams employ. Tampa 2 that a lot of teams employ has two safeties helping while Seattle runs a primary cover 3 that takes personal away from the safety position into a LB role, TE coverage, pass rush, etc leaving two CB’s and one safety to cover the backfield. This is also why Earl Thomas is so valuable and even considered the better DB due to the fact that he is the Hawks last line of defense who has to support two CB rather than one.

  19. Maybe kids have said or heard worse, but is that what you want a teacher, an adult mentor, saying to a group of youths?

    Makes me wonder if he’s not been in the sauce or something. Chill out Andre. I know you’re bitter, but declaring and swearing you can beat Sherman, in front of kids ain’t gonna get you into the HOF.

    If Richard said anything back, I hope it was something as mild as … Andre Who?

  20. All these haters including PFT, Andre reed. Trying to break down water RS does. Andre Reed Zero rings. Who did den play with Oh damn Hall of famers. Wow keep hating. Our 2nd ring will be easier. Gohawks.

  21. Who’s Richard Sherman?

    Oh wait, the guy who got burned on a touchdown on a double move by Jarius Wright, thrown by Christian Ponder?
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    He is the Cornerback with the least number of passes thrown his way, and yet led the league in interceptions.

    Oh, and also, he is a Superbowl Champion.

    Any other questions?

  22. scmems07 says: Jul 11, 2014 7:38 PM

    Love how shehawk fans
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    Shehawks……really? What are you like 12 years old?

    Go Hawks

  23. adderal says: Jul 11, 2014 7:37 PM

    Some of you seahag fans and your childish crushes on this team. Whats a matter, worried there gonna leave town if you don’t suck up to them? Anyone who gets to the top of any profession is gonna think they are the best. Some of you need to grow up
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    You post under the name adderal and tell others to grow up…………that’s funny right there…

    Go Hawks

  24. Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor are the best safeties of the last generation?! Let’s be honest, they’ve had a couple good seasons and that’s about it so far…

  25. Ok, there are a couple of less than intelligent comments I’d like to address.

    First: The salary of a deion and woodson compared to Sherman has more to do with inflation over the years than it has to do with talent. Name one player in the NFL that made $20 million a season in the 90’s? That comment made about as much sense as saying Jordan hill resigning with the lakers for $9 million a season means he’s better than Magic Johnson because he never got anything close to that amount in salary.

    Second: Playing left cornerback and playing right cornerback are two completely different techniques. If you don’t play football it might be hard for you to understand, but we’ve all thrown punches whether in a fight or playing around, we all have a one leg that we naturally like to have forward and that arm we feel is our best to hit someone with. The difference between left and right corner is almost the same thing, opening up your hips and turning and running feels differently depending on which leg you feel is the strongest. Planting and driving off your legs is no different than the feeling of throwing a punch, we all have a leg that if we were racing, it would always be the one we put back and push off of, and when we try the other leg in that position, it doesn’t feel the same.

  26. I think we have some PFT on PFT crime here, as much as I hate your “ESPN on ESPN crime” phrase.

    I think it was MJD who wrote that Sherman is the Seahawk’s best player, but how does that compare to two of the best safeties of the last generation? Or some of their other talents, like Lynch and Rice?

    I realize you could say that both are true, that they are the best safeties AND that Sherman is better than them, which would be an amazing concentration of talent on one team. But really, how likely is that versus the combination of all of them, including their defensive line, being an extremely potent combination, raising the product of the whole versus the sum of the parts? I’ll bet it is the combination lifting all of them rather than three transcendent talents in one secondary.

    But the truth is we’ll not know how good the individual Sherman is until and unless his team circumstances change drastically. Which is a little less hypothetical than Sherman covering Reed for a game.

  27. I agree with this guy ^^ 100% about both. also I would like to add last time I checked this is a team game no 1 guy and do anything on his own.

  28. Every idiot says it’s Seattle’s Defensive scheme! Every idiot says it’s Russell Wilson’s running game! Every idiot has an excuse why Seattle just did what they said they couldn’t do! What ever happened to quit having excuses and play the game? Just because the Hawks are on top all the previous Chumps want to make excuses about this or that! Guess who’s the biggest & baddest team in the NFL Sandbox now? Seattle! Shut up and take your lumps fool!

  29. People have your say that Thomas and chancellor are the best of a generation because it helps in their attempt to discredit how good Sherman is. They also say that the Seahawks have an elite pass rush when in reality the Seahawks pass rush is actually mediocre at best. Almost all of the Seahawks sacks are coverage sacks. Florio and some other haters will come up with anything to take away from Sherman. How about actually watch him play and make up your own minds? Despite the fud that the haters spew around here, he actually is an elite corner and has the stats and ring to back it up.

  30. Xplicitpits explain the technical aspects of the game, how Seattle won using the strategy they did, and maybe you will have credibility when calling others idiots. Have a good day, ignorant Seahawk fan!

  31. So, Andre Reed is the new Jim Brown. JB is the best player to ever live: could run a 3.6 forty and run through a brick wall. Every RB since has sucked… just ask him.

  32. If the other team’s receiver is so good put him on the left side and end the debate of Sherman only plays the left side. This will show who is better.

  33. If its not broke, why fix it? All oposing team fans say, ‘he covers one side of the field’. Watch your corners this year as your Defensive Coaches try and adapt to the Seahawks scheme. Kind of like the old computer black and white footage Ali vs Marciano. What could of would of happened? With that being said, Sherman would have intimidated Reed, to the point of snot bubbles and peeing in the jockstrap.

  34. Fringetastic, someone who understands how the game works! It’s hard to find that when I read Seahawks’ discussion boards. I go on to read their pompous views on how great their team is, it’s pretty hilarious and usually illogical.

  35. Further, Sherman has shadowed the other teams top WR on numerous occasions, like Megatron in 2012, Larry Fitzgerald, and Anquan Boldin in week 2 (0 catches). Give me a break.

    3 top receivers in 2 years is numerous to you ?

  36. Richard Sherman does not care about you or your opinion so stop wasting time “blogging”. You are just feeding into the meaningless hype. Beside Stevie Johnson will expose him 2x this season and all this hype will be over.

  37. Andre Reed had an exceptional career but truth be told he was pretty hot-and-cold from season to season.

  38. Not a Seahawks fan, but if we stick with the facts rather than conjecture, it is pretty hard to say that Sherman isn’t the best at his trade right now. The stats and opinions of his peers (not blow hard fans) seem to support that. Time machine what-if scenarios carry little weight

  39. kamthechancellor says:
    Jul 11, 2014 6:57 PM
    Andre who?
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    Did you just start watching football? If not, you are ignorant. Andre who? Basically one of the greatest Wideouts to ever step on to a football field… Maybe you should Google him. C’mon man!

  40. “Sherman stays on the left side of the formation, and he’s never asked to spend the game shadowing the opposition’s best receiver”..I am SO tired of this media lie. Sherman does cover the opposing team’s best receiver. ON EITHER SIDE!!! Go back and look at some of their games.

  41. The internet should auto-delete any post that includes, “U mad bro?”, anything attached to a hashtag (that’s a pound key because I’m old) and “Hater”.

    People make reasonable comments only to fumble it away with those things added on.

  42. The reason Sherm doesn’t cover all #1 WRS is that offenses know he will shut them down so they put them on the other side of the field.

    Sherm is the man. People don’t like him because he talks alot. Well guess what he backs it up.

    Amazing how thin skinned and petty people are that can’t appreciate his talent and worry about how much he talks.

    Sherm you are a beast in my book

  43. Look, Reed was a good receiver. But he wasn’t Jerry Rice or Steve Largent –even if he thinks he was…

  44. You people with the “Andre who” crap understand that he’s IN the HOF, right? Oh, and by the way, Tim Brown isn’t, yet?

  45. Of course Seachicken fans know who Andre Reed is, they only became football fans maybe 2 years ago.
    And Andre is right.

  46. Coming from a Cards fan here. Sherman can cover anyone except for maybe Megatron, but nobody can do that. I should hate the Seahawks, but I respect them and a big reason why is Sherman. He gave up the fewest TDs and had the most picks. He said he would be a top corner in the league when he was a 5th round rookie. Well, dude talks but he backs it up too. You can’t compare him to Sanders really, two very different type of players, but he compares favorably to Woodson. Why talk this trash? Sherman is one of the best defensive players in the league and sees a lot more passes than any DB that played in the 90s so his numbers will probably be better than Sanders or Woodson. Then the has beens will cry that it’s a passing league now!

  47. Jealousy…it makes people sound ignorant or overly emotional.

    Speaking of Dion Sanders, he said again yesterday that Richard was the best cb in the game…right now…period. Michael Irvin was right behind him nodding in agreement.

    I could give you my opinion but that’s worth about as much as yours…nothing. I will take the opinion of one of the greatest CB’s ever(PRIMETIME) and on of the best we ever in Irvin. The both say Sherman is the best.

    Not to mention that RS is the only defensive player in the top ten in NFL.com’s top 100. Voted on by peers instead of ridiculous, emotionally fragile fans of other teams that have the nerve to say things like “I don’t even think Sherman is very good”. Only on the internet…

  48. I can’t even believe somebody would ask who Andre Reed was ? Probably some 19 year old bandwagon Seahawks fan. And you delusional people need to wake up and realize that Sherman isn’t what he cracks himself up to be. Put Richard Sherman on the Jaguars and we’ll see how good he really is. That’s why I don’t like the media cause their suckers for falling right into his arrogant trap. All he is , is a bigmouth. Stop being naive people. He’s a solid player Seattle, nothing more.

  49. It continually amazes me to see the public “hate” of Richard Sherman by former players and former coaches, and the average Joe fan. But when you start seeing what the current players think you start to realize the guy is not only talented, but he’s the best in the league at his position.

    BEST defensive player last year as voted by current NFL players. Number 7 overall.

    Even the Joe fans realize his talent. They also voted him BEST defensive player last year. But their overall number didn’t match the players. Joe voted him number 3 overall.

    Sherman may run his mouth. You may hate him for that. But stats don’t lie. The facts are what they are. So show me a CB with better stats over the past two years and I will tell you that person is a better CB than Sherman. But you can’t because there isn’t anyone with better stats.

    Just a few for you:

    Fewest times targeted by opposing team.

    Most INT’s 8 (Same as the previous year btw.)

    Lowest opposing QB rating…under 45. (Compare that to Patrick Pederson’s over 90 allowed!)

    TD’s allowed vs INT’s made. 2:8 No one else even close

    Take the time to look up the stats…the facts…and then show me a better CB. Hate his trash talking all you want, but he’s still the best.

  50. Andre Reed is deserving of the Hall and I’m glad for him going in, but the fact Tim Brown hasn’t been elected yet is an absolute joke.

    That committee is a disgrace.

  51. You are so right Andre! But then again he wouldn’t have had to cover you because you, in the big games, heard footsteps and didn’t catch the ball. HOF joke

  52. Why do people continue to put down Sherman? Why do people think he’s the next coming of Revis? He’s a good player! He can cover! But he’s not a Revis, or a Sanders yet!

  53. “He is the Cornerback with the least number of passes thrown his way, and yet led the league in interceptions”

    Of course he has the least number of passes thrown his way, last time I checked qb’s throw to their best receivers and not the 3rd and 4th reads like Sherman normally covers.

  54. Oh, and the interception thing… Yea, he plays in a division with palmer, kaepernick and Bradford/who ever the backup is, quite possibly the worst division in the NFL for qb’s, I’m surprised he doesn’t have more int’s.

  55. lets set the record straight for the SHEhawk koolaid drinkers….First off, saying count the the rings has ZERO to do with the comments made..I guess the dumb shehawk posters think only Rings make you great ( ie see Marino, Kelly, Eric Dickerson, Earl Campbell,..hell i can go on all day with that conversation)…Rings don’t define you as a player..sorry. second, Sherman loves to talk the talk to Hall of Fame players..WR’s back in Reeds day were way more physical. They were used to the tactics the Shehawks deploy. Meaning Sherman would not have been able to cover him of most guys back then (Rice, Irvin, Sterling sharpe ect)..last but not least..to the poster who said Sherman makes more then Dion and Reed combined?..dude, dion’s money is still making money..This is the yr sherman gets exposed…or maybe made to cover a WR on the right side…lol

  56. Reed made it to 3 Super Bowls! Seattle will be lucky to make it to another one? And they better do it fast before they start paying players and blow the team up!!

  57. Sherman couldn’t cover a bet without a safety over the top…
    Get real. The guy is all mouth, no action.
    He’s not even the best CB in his division. He’s not even top 3 in his division.
    In the modern era, talk=notoriety…
    He’s not that good. System CB only.

  58. chad504boy says:
    Jul 11, 2014 6:58 PM

    But but Sherman went to Stanford….

    I drove up there once. It’s a nice campus. Of course, they still bring in a bunch of dummies to play football

  59. Would you love him on your team? Yes. Is he one of the best in the secondary in the NFL? Yes. Does he have great ball hawking skills? Yes. Does he have over the top coverage from some great safeties over the top? Yes. Do the Seahawks use his ability to help the team win? Yes. Is he a shutdown corner? No. Does that impact the teams success? No. Would Sherman be able to cover him one on one? Probably not. Early 90’s Bills vs 2013 Seahawks. That’s for Madden.

  60. Sherman has brought any criticism on himself. No one would have known about his beef with crabtree if it weren’t for his wild man TV performance.

  61. I’m not someone who demands respect, but come on…the Seahawks have earned it. I love football but it makes me sick to see how rude and disrespectful people are regarding the sport. If you don’t like Sherman or the Seahawks, that’s fine. I dislike the Niners but I respect the hell out of them and will say they are a great team any day.

    Like others have said, if Sherman was on your team you would be defending him. If you had just won the Super Bowl you would claim you are the best. Instead you show little character and make any false excuse as to why Sherman is not elite or the Hawks are average.

    Seatless D-line was average, no elite pass rush to help him. Our safeties do not turn mediocre CB’s into superstars…If that were true Byron Maxwell would be in the mix of top corners. If our scheme made average corners elite we wouldn’t have put that money into Sherman and just kept drafting that position.

    Lastly any bitter packers fan, Niners fan or someone simply contemptuous is going bag on Sherm and/or the hawks when they know what they’re saying is not true, as if to lead others to believe they are…have some respect. In a sport of “men” you’re acting like children.

  62. And you would expect Andre Reed to say what, “yeah he’d blanket me”? This isn’t news it’s propaganda. Explain to me why someone who can’t suit up and play out his hypothetical boasting makes news doing it? Are we now going to see an article because I say Ali could never have laid a glove on me? Because Jordon could never have broken me down on the dribble? Aaron could never have touched my fastball? It’s easy to say crap like this when you know you won’t have to prove it. Andre needs to learn some humility and an ability to give credit where it’s due. I don’t see Sherman spending any time worrying about whether Andre could have beat him or not. Who cares what Andre thinks except of course, Andre ( and apparently Mr Florio).

  63. I love it. Just the fact that everyone can’t seem to stop talking about RS. This is what fuels a team for the following year — he’ll have such a chip on his shoulder and so much to prove. HOF here we come.

  64. Apparently, the one advantage of the HOF logjam at WR over the last decade has been these guys not shooting their mouths off. Now we can add Reed to Carter as a self-professed expert.

  65. Andre who(?), the guy who broke Steve Largent’s records (not slamming Largent BTW).

    Andre Reed played in 4 straight SB’s, not 3. He also ranks very high in Playoff and SB receiving stats.

    The Bills currently have Robert Woods, who as a freshman at USC, torched Richard Sherman for 10 catches, over 200yds and a couple of TD’s.

    Richard Sherman is good, but he is not “all that”!!

  66. People talk about Sherman cause all he does is talk about himself. He must have had really low self esteem growing up or maybe didn’t get many compliments cause he really likes to pump his own tires. Enjoy your title Seattle cause that Lombardi Trophy is coming to New Orleans this season. Oh and by the way, if that Seattle secondary is soooo good, answer me how they let slow, old man Marques Colston catch 11 balls for the tune of over 100 yards ?

  67. Tim Brown = 9 seasons with 80 or more catches. Reed = 3 seasons with 80 or more catches.

    If Reed is in the HOF, Tim Brown should be in the HOF.

    Reed played with one of the best QB’s of his time, Jim Kelly. Brown played with Jay Schroeder, Jeff Hostetler, Vince Evans, Jeff George, and then finally he got Gannon when Gannon was good, for 4 years.

    Reed in 4 SB’s says more about the team then it does about the individual player.

    Not trying to knock Reed as much as saying I believe Brown was the better player.

  68. I love Seahawk fans that don’t know squat about football and only started to watch and like their team the last couple of years. They have no knowledge of football at all. Must be something to do with the rain on their brain.

  69. Yes guys, Dick Sherman is the best corner to ever play football. I think he invented the position. He won the SB completely on his own. He threw the touchdowns, sacked the QB, returned the punts/kicks, provided towels & Gatorade. Hell, he did it all. That’s right, the NFL’s best CB ever is a former WR….

    …now off to sleep for about 4 years, which is how long I give it before people forget all about this guy.

  70. The sheer amount of jealousy of Sherman and the Seahawks coursing through articles like this never ceases to amaze me. It really is jealousy, just admit it and be done with it. The Seahawks did really well the past few seasons and topped it off with a superbowl. If the Browns had done the same thing, you’d all be calling Haden an “average” CB. The Seahawks are a really good team right now. As a fan of the Seahawks (one who’s been a fan of them for well over 20 years), it’d be nice if folks would just relax and let us have our moment. Heck, it may only last a few years, so I’m enjoying it while I can. Deion Sanders himself said that Sherman is in his eyes the best CB in the game today. Is it true? Who knows… it’s all subjective anyway, but you can’t deny that Sherman has better stats than all the other CBs out there right now despite being tested the least. Incidentally, getting burned a few times by a few WRs doesn’t automatically disqualify a CB from the “best” discussion. Even Deion got burned from time to time… or are you saying he was also “average”?

  71. Fewest targets, most interceptions.

    Everyone coming here to issue upvotes and downvotes according to their emotional response towards Richard Sherman needs to keep that in mind.

    Fewest targets, most interceptions.

    You mad, bro?
    ______________________________

    I ain’t mad, I got nothing but love for ya!

    That being said, Sherman benefits from the inside help from his scary-good Safeties and also TREMENDOUSLY benefits from the pressure his pass rush creates. Richard has seen like 2 double moves in his entire career. He knows the QB is getting rid of that ball on the receivers first move.

    He adds his formidable ball skills (former receiver at Stanford) to that, and voila – passes defended and picked.

    He is great at what he does, but he isn’t asked to do what he can’t.

    You will see the real Richard Sherman when his D-line can’t get to the QB, or Thomas isn’t playing. I haven’t seen either yet. So instead we see an intelligent guy with great ball skills (and a “little” touchy-feely on receivers) that knows how to work his SYSTEM very well.

    Now, are you mad bro?

  72. I wish these ex-players would go away and stop.The game is over for them.Why can’t they move on and do something else.Or are they so stupid to be reliving the past.Move forward.Who the hell cares what Andre Reed has in his bag of groceries.Bottom line he was cut and is now off the field.Lets hear from a current player about whether Sherman can cover him and then go out and prove it.Facts…….that is all I want…

  73. nflgiant says:Jul 12, 2014 10:17 AM

    I wish these ex-players would go away and stop.The game is over for them.Why can’t they move on and do something else.Or are they so stupid to be reliving the past.Move forward.Who the hell cares what Andre Reed has in his bag of groceries.Bottom line he was cut and is now off the field.Lets hear from a current player about whether Sherman can cover him and then go out and prove it.Facts…….that is all I want…
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    Bottom line he was cut? Get your facts straight bud…………..Andre Reed retired. He was never cut from anything.

  74. harveyredman says:
    Jul 12, 2014 9:49 AM
    Fewest targets, most interceptions.

    Everyone coming here to issue upvotes and downvotes according to their emotional response towards Richard Sherman needs to keep that in mind.

    Fewest targets, most interceptions.

    You mad, bro?
    ______________________________

    I ain’t mad, I got nothing but love for ya!

    That being said, Sherman benefits from the inside help from his scary-good Safeties and also TREMENDOUSLY benefits from the pressure his pass rush creates. Richard has seen like 2 double moves in his entire career. He knows the QB is getting rid of that ball on the receivers first move.

    He adds his formidable ball skills (former receiver at Stanford) to that, and voila – passes defended and picked.

    He is great at what he does, but he isn’t asked to do what he can’t.

    You will see the real Richard Sherman when his D-line can’t get to the QB, or Thomas isn’t playing. I haven’t seen either yet. So instead we see an intelligent guy with great ball skills (and a “little” touchy-feely on receivers) that knows how to work his SYSTEM very well.

    Now, are you mad bro?
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    You are insane if you believe that. It’s cart before the horse both for Sherman and the safeties. They are all great, which is WHY (not to “mask” deficiencies that the detractors insist that exist with Sherman’s being the best CB in the NFL) they are able to play straight up like that.

    You have to move corners around because the opposite corner is so bad that you MUST use your best corner on the best WR all game. See: Deion Sanders and Kevin Smith.

    There is no dropoff at RCB, therefore Sherman doesn’t need to move.

    You people ran out of material now that you said he had to win a Super Bowl, so now you’re reaching for this nonsense.

    And I played the position for 3 1/2 years. Put down the Madden, turn off the talking heads who hate Sherman, and learn football.

  75. And the film clearly shows that Sherman has played plenty inside and on the right at times also. Making it seem like he can only play LCB because he “can’t” do anything else is asinine of someone with a personal axe to grind.

  76. Andre Reed was never all that impressive to me. Consistent in that run and shoot system, yes, but man to man, Sherman would have frustrated him all game in 8 or 9 out of 10 games. I watched Reed’s career from start to finish with my own two eyes. Whenever the stakes got higher and the best CBs were on him, he was NOWHERE to be found.

  77. Richard “Mouth” Sherman has tremendous talent. Andre Reed had tremendous talent. Reed played in an era, though, where DBs could be DBs, that is, clutch, grab, punch, hit, etc., etc. Now, on the other hand, Sherman would have been perfect for that era.

    So, I call this one a “push.”

  78. upstaterules says:
    Jul 12, 2014 7:30 AM
    Andre who(?), the guy who broke Steve Largent’s records (not slamming Largent BTW).

    Andre Reed played in 4 straight SB’s, not 3. He also ranks very high in Playoff and SB receiving stats.

    The Bills currently have Robert Woods, who as a freshman at USC, torched Richard Sherman for 10 catches, over 200yds and a couple of TD’s.

    Richard Sherman is good, but he is not “all that”!!
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    I remember Reed being a “compilahhh” (in Mike Francesa’s voice) and disappearing in big games.

  79. wclj says:
    Jul 11, 2014 9:54 PM
    You people with the “Andre who” crap understand that he’s IN the HOF, right? Oh, and by the way, Tim Brown isn’t, yet?
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    Those of us who grew up watching both screamed bloody murder that he’s in and Brown isn’t. Reed does not belong in the HOF. He is a compiler like Bert Blyleven in MLB.

  80. Id go on record saying I think ronde barber was a better shutdown corner than Sherman, and a better all around corner as well (dude had like 20 ints-20 sacks by what, his 6th year?)

  81. Only plays the left and gets help from other defensive players? Yet was voted number 1 overall defensive player on NFL’s top 100 decided by the players. You tell me what that means.

  82. Andre Reed never led the league in any positive offensive categories, while playing with a QB in the top 20 in all-time passing yardage and a RB in the top 15 in all-time rushing yardage. His best season for receptions is the 160th best of all time and his best season for rec. yardage is 143rd of all time.

    I definitely think the top CB in the league at any time, not just Sherman right now, is going to be able to “cover” him. He could definitely make some “possession” catches, of course, but that was his deal mostly anyway. His yards/catch average isn’t even close to the top 250 in the NFL. He does rank 80th all time in rec yards per game though!

  83. I feel sorry for Bills fans. Must be tough to get excited when one of your old players makes the news. If Jim Kelly had said it, I would listen. But this guy? Most overrated HOFamer ever. And yes, he didn’t show up for the big games.

    Kelly deserved better

  84. Only plays the left and gets help from other defensive players? Yet was voted number 1 overall defensive player on NFL’s top 100 decided by the players. You tell me what that means.
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    Least thrown at, most interceptions, and Super Bowl Champion. You tell me what that means.

    Kind of jealous aren’t you?

    Go Hawks

  85. kamthechancellor says:
    Jul 11, 2014 6:57 PM

    Andre who?
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    Yeah, you wouldn’t know because you’ve only been a football fan since 2012.

  86. Yes guys, Dick Sherman is the best corner to ever play football. I think he invented the position. He won the SB completely on his own. He threw the touchdowns, sacked the QB, returned the punts/kicks, provided towels & Gatorade. Hell, he did it all. That’s right, the NFL’s best CB ever is a former WR….

    …now off to sleep for about 4 years, which is how long I give it before people forget all about this guy.
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    Do you feel better now, after your childish rant?

    You jealous bro?

    Go Hawks

  87. Why would anyone care about whether Sherman could/could not cover Reed. What a stupid article, and pointless question to even ask. People hate RS cuz of his arrogant demeanor – then because they hate him, they claim that he sucks, and he’s not as good as he is getting credit for. WHO CARES!!!??? The guy has been a beast at his position, regardless of the defense “scheme”. No matter how great he continues to be, haters will ALWAYS dog on him because of who he is…period. I’m so tired of all the couch potato analysts out there who act like they know everything…let’s just get the season started already so we can watch some football!!!

  88. I love Seahawk fans that don’t know squat about football and only started to watch and like their team the last couple of years. They have no knowledge of football at all. Must be something to do with the rain on their brain.
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    Yawn…. If that is the case why have the home games been sold out since 03, and the #12 retired in 84?

    And this from a bills’ fan…….Maybe you should be more concerned about trying to keep the Bills in Buffalo huh?

    Super Bowl Champs

    Go Hawks

  89. @
    qdog112 says: Jul 11, 2014 7:40 PM

    Maybe kids have said or heard worse, but is that what you want a teacher, an adult mentor, saying to a group of youths?

    Makes me wonder if he’s not been in the sauce or something. Chill out Andre. I know you’re bitter, but declaring and swearing you can beat Sherman, in front of kids ain’t gonna get you into the HOF.

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    It’s a Football Camp, he didn’t drop the F-Bomb and he’s in the HOF!!!

  90. Oh and by the way, if that Seattle secondary is soooo good, answer me how they let slow, old man Marques Colston catch 11 balls for the tune of over 100 yards ?
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    Probably because they were busy limiting “#10 on the NFL Top 100 Player Countdown” Jimmy Graham to one catch for 8 yards.

    Oh wow, a receiver had a good game in the playoffs….how awesome for your team! How did he, and they, do in the next round?

  91. don’t think Sherman has the athletic skills to even play the shutdown CB role…. w/o pass rush and safety protection I don’t think he could hang with any NFL #1 WR or most of the better #2s; I think I could beat him deep…

  92. harveyredman says:
    Jul 12, 2014 9:49 AM

    Sherman benefits from the inside help from his scary-good Safeties and also TREMENDOUSLY benefits from the pressure his pass rush creates.
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    Sherman has been a starter for 2.5 years and has 20 INTs over that time.

    In his first parital season as a starter, Seattle was 19th in sacks, with 33 total for the year.

    In his second season, his first as a full-time starter, Seattle was 18th in sacks, with 36.

    Over that time, Sherman had 12 INTs and made the AP All-Pro team.

    If a CB can benefit TREMENDOUSLY from a pass rush that was, for lack of a better word, mediocre prior to the arrival of Bennett and Avril, then what is the excuse for CBs who finish on teams with pass rushes in the top five?

  93. I find these comments by Reed hilarious considering big corners like Bobby Taylor used to man handle Reed when he was still in his prime.

  94. If a CB can benefit TREMENDOUSLY from a pass rush that was, for lack of a better word, mediocre prior to the arrival of Bennett and Avril, then what is the excuse for CBs who finish on teams with pass rushes in the top five?
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    If you think Seattle’s pass rush has been mediocre anytime in the past 3 years you don’t get football Period And shouldn’t bother commenting. It makes your glib show for everyone to see

    PS Passes don’t get thrown on sacks. INT’s happen when a QB is under duress but still gets a pass off. It’s a subtlety of the game that seems to have eluded you.

    PPS when was the last time the entire defense rotated away from Sherman leaving him alone to cover a WR? Never. He’s a good baller, but take off your homer hat off long enough to get he’s not close to the talent of a Sansersn or Woodson. Not close, not in the same zip code.

  95. Mr. Wright 212 says:

    And I played the position for 3 1/2 years. Put down the Madden, turn off the talking heads who hate Sherman, and learn football.
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    Who cares what you played in pee wee dude. No one asked for you resume.

    You’re a homer and don’t get he’s a “great” system player. He never sees a double move and has safety help over top. Dude, even their nickel corners look like all-pros. Guy that took over for Browner when he got suspended balled out. Their front 7 make the DB’s job much easier. Did you learn that in your 3 1/2 year of playing CB, when you were 12 years old? LMAO

    Thing is, I like the guy. I have been a big fan since his College days. I live in Palo Alto (you know where Stanford is). But geez, if you Seattle fans prove it’s better to stay quiet and be thought of as an idiot than open your mouth and prove you are.

    You probably think Golden Tate caught that ball too, right?!

  96. Love the “how many rings” comments about Reed as if it’s his fault his Bills teams didn’t very get a ring in the 90s. It’s almost as hilarious as suggesting that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl solely cause of Dick Sherman and no one else.

    Footballs a team sport. this story isn’t about the team aspect it’s about 2 individuals. Just more proof that your average person is stupid.

  97. harveyredman says:
    Jul 12, 2014 2:39 PM

    If a CB can benefit TREMENDOUSLY from a pass rush that was, for lack of a better word, mediocre prior to the arrival of Bennett and Avril, then what is the excuse for CBs who finish on teams with pass rushes in the top five?
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    If you think Seattle’s pass rush has been mediocre anytime in the past 3 years you don’t get football Period And shouldn’t bother commenting. It makes your glib show for everyone to see
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    Prior to Avril and Bennett arriving, Chris Clemons was the Seattle pass rush, period. He had roughly one-third of the team’s sacks for three straight years. If he got handled, or hurt, there wasn’t much else around to pick up the slack.

    This is why the team made such a strong effort to improve the pass rush by adding Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril in the 2013 offseason. Prior to their arrival, it was average at best. For a couple of years, Seahawks have had been saying “If we can get a top-ten pass rush, with the talent we have in the secondary, that will put this team over the top.” We got it, and hey, what do you know, we were right.

    If you were to actually watch Sherman play instead of inventing “facts” to support your emotional state, you’d see that on quite a few of his picks, QBs have time to throw and think they’re making good decisions. His pick on Brady against the Pats is one example, and his pick of Sam Bradford in the season closer this past year is another. Sure he gets some picks where the pass rush is effective….what CB doesn’t? But he also robs QBs blind because he tricks them into throwing passes they shouldn’t.

  98. All you haters know more about football and the cb position than PRIMETIME? You know more than the great Dion Sanders about playing corner?

    You make me laugh!

    Neon Dion Sanders says Sherman is the best cornerback in football now. Better than all those you would argue for hours in vain for. You all fail. You are letting emotion make you sound less intelligent than you probably/hopefully are.

    I can respect a guy that puts him top 3 and gives props even though he like his guy haden or revis or Peterson(or whoever) better. But when you say RS sucks and can’t man up etc you lose all credibility. For you it is about hating the man instead of the player.

    Your lame, hateful, jealous posts show your true nature. Seahawks are on top of the world ATM and that leaves you and your team wanting.

  99. Reed in Hall of fame and of story. No rings says more about how great he was to be in the hall of fame. That’s something awarded to the all time best. Go Bills more H.O.F’ers then all Seattle sports. Lol have a good day.

  100. First, Richard Sherman pomposity is only eclipsed by his inflated sense of self worth. The man is clinically insecure and the louder his diatribe becomes, the less credibility it carries. Being paid the more than other CBs from earlier eras is not indicative of skill level but more logically market inflation. Can the man play football? Absolutely, even if it is with the aid of a synthesized amphetamine. Lest we forget gentleman, he took speed and it wasn’t to study his playbook, despite his repeated contentions. And finally, but most importantly as far as this lifelong NFL fan is concerned, I wouldn’t want my team cutting a check to anyone who behaves in such fashion, interceptions, passes defensed, and Super Bowl rings be damned. Productivity has never been, nor will it ever be, a legitimate enough reason to purvey such terribly neanderthalithic behavior. Dial back the Alpha Dick and just try to channel an athlete with some intrinsic motivation rather than constantly needing extrinsic sources. It just reeks of insecure desperation.

  101. Who cares about any of this. It takes a team to win a Super Bowl. Especially a defensive minded team and the Seahawks won it last year. So everybody else sucks especially the Niners. Also Minnesota Vikings are a joke.

    Go Hawks….

  102. First, the fact that there is so much hate toward Seattle and Seattle fans must mean the Seahawks are indeed that good, because no one cared about us at all before. Second, where did all this garbage about Seattle fans only becoming fans in the last couple years come from? The Hawks have always been the top dog in Seattle sports and sold out the Kingdome consistently back in the day. Maybe the national fans jumped on board recently, but that’s not our fault.

    Or are people just angry that the Seahawks made a considerable point to credit their fans for being part of their success where maybe other teams just pay lip service?

  103. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jul 13, 2014 6:45 PM

    I care, because for a guy talkin like this, you wouldn’t know that he always got shut down in big games.
    …………………
    Dude you need to relax.

    For starters he’s not “talkin like this”, he was asked a question by a kid at a football camp and he answered it. He didn’t go out of his way.

    Secondly- where is your proof that he “disappeared in big games”? Is it based on the fact he had 3 TD’s in the 2nd half alone during ‘the comeback’? Or maybe based on the fact he is second only to Jerry Rice in Super Bowl TD receptions? Or, maybe, it’s the fact he’s 3rd all time in Super Bowl receiving yards behind only Rice and Lynn Swan?

    Honestly, dude, do your homework. Reed was just about the only guy that DID show up in those Bills Super Bowls. But I suppose it’s his fault they lost them all, right?

  104. You have to excuse the angry, immature seattle “fans” on here.. they just became “fans” in the last year or two. They have no idea who Andre Reed is because they hadn’t joined the bandwagon back when he played and had no reason to watch football. To the real seattle fans, I feel your pain with these clowns who taint your image. I’m hoping for a great rivalry for years to come!

  105. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jul 12, 2014 10:51 AM
    And I played the position for 3 1/2 years. Put down the Madden, turn off the talking heads who hate Sherman, and learn football.
    …………….
    Well, then, our apologies. 3.5 years?!?! Is this Dion Sanders???

  106. politicallyincorrect says:
    Jul 11, 2014 7:05 PM

    I don’t see any way anyone could put Sherman as a top CB….. nowhere near the shutdown guys.. he doesn’t even play the shutdown role, he is a limited guy that used marketing tricks to associate his name with top CBs
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    Forgot a few…

    And leads the NFL in INTs, passes against and QB rating against.

  107. without pass rush and deep help, I don’t think Dick Sherman could cover me…. i’m old, short, fat and bald.. but serious

    probably most overrated player in many a year due to his successful promotion and marketing skills

    not a top 10 CB; system/role player

  108. This ‘politicallyincorrect’ is a fact-challenged moron. Conservatives created this brainless monster called the ‘Tea Party’ thinking they could control it and now the monster is smacking them around. Funny that you say Liberals are trying to ruin the country. We have had MAYBE two Presidents who could be called ‘Liberal’ for their time and one was a Republican (back when they WERE the Liberals) named Abraham Lincoln.

    The funniest thing is that after Bush and Co. were exposed as quite literally ‘ruining the country’ the Republican and Conservative brands names were so detested that MANY Republicans running between 2008 and 2010 refused to call themselves ‘Republican’ (Dino Rossi was a local guy here doing that).

    As for Sherman, he is the best CB in football right now and may well prove to be the best ever. He will never have Rondi Barber’s sack total because he is rarely asked to sack QBs (why would any team do that with their best CB when they have a great pass rush?) but Barber could not cover guys anywhere near as well as Sherman does. Deon Sanders was fast as heck and could return kicks and INTs for a TD at any time…but he could not seem to hit anyone or make a tackle.

    You people saying Sherman is “average” are exposing yourselves as being ignorant of football. You people who believe that Seattle’s fan base just sprung up out of nowhere a few years ago are exposing your own ignorance of football.

    I get it already. For most of the league’s existence it was dominated by a handful of states like California, New York, Texas, etc. and now this is not the case. Teams like New Orleans and Seattle are getting there by being smarter about building a team and coaching their players. It used to be that there were about ten perpetual ‘expansion teams’ who would never win it all and you never noticed their fans and now things have changed and you are upset and fearful.

    Be afraid.

  109. bbr212 says:
    Jul 13, 2014 11:58 PM
    First, the fact that there is so much hate toward Seattle and Seattle fans must mean the Seahawks are indeed that good, because no one cared about us at all before. Second, where did all this garbage about Seattle fans only becoming fans in the last couple years come from? The Hawks have always been the top dog in Seattle sports and sold out the Kingdome consistently back in the day. Maybe the national fans jumped on board recently, but that’s not our fault.

    Or are people just angry that the Seahawks made a considerable point to credit their fans for being part of their success where maybe other teams just pay lip service?

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    Most of the morons making those comments probably weren’t even alive when the Seahawks were selling out the Kingdome. They don’t even know about the “noise rule” the NFL introduced because of the deafening crowds at the Kingdome.

  110. “saints12013 says:
    Jul 11, 2014 10:47 PM
    I can’t even believe somebody would ask who Andre Reed was ? Probably some 19 year old bandwagon Seahawks fan. And you delusional people need to wake up and realize that Sherman isn’t what he cracks himself up to be. Put Richard Sherman on the Jaguars and we’ll see how good he really is. That’s why I don’t like the media cause their suckers for falling right into his arrogant trap. All he is , is a bigmouth. Stop being naive people. He’s a solid player Seattle, nothing more.”

    Can’t believe you don’t understand sarcasm.
    I would say “Andre Reed, who?” as well since he is not part of the game today.
    All due respect… but his saying he could beat Sherman is just talk….

  111. howthenfcwestwaswon says:
    Jul 15, 2014 11:52 AM

    “Most of the morons making those comments probably weren’t even alive when the Seahawks were selling out the Kingdome. They don’t even know about the “noise rule” the NFL introduced because of the deafening crowds at the Kingdome.”

    You mean the noise rule that they tried to enforce and the crowd just got louder? That was hilarious.

  112. So if Sherman is average at best, and only has great stats because of the “Tricks” and the “System” that Seattle uses, WHY DOESN’T EVERY TEAM USE THAT SYSTEM AND THOSE TRICKS TO MAKE THEIR CRAPPY DEFENSE AWESOME?

  113. Richard Sherman would eat Reed up. I remember that Super Bowl vs. the Giants that they hit Reed a lot at the line, he was dropping passes and hearing footsteps all game. OVERRATED!

  114. politicallyincorrect says:
    Jul 16, 2014 12:45 PM
    Sherman got a 24 on his Wonderlic… not exactly Stanford material, is it?

    then again we have a president that did same thing………. leadership.. LOL
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    Wonderlic means nothing. We have people who have scored 1600/2400 on SATs and 180s on LSATs who are certifiably stupid. They just regurgitate information quicker than others.

  115. tcostant says:
    Jul 16, 2014 1:15 PM
    Richard Sherman would eat Reed up. I remember that Super Bowl vs. the Giants that they hit Reed a lot at the line, he was dropping passes and hearing footsteps all game. OVERRATED!
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    Specifically that Giants game in 1991.

    Skins and Dallas did it to him also. And these were mostly lesser corners who benefited from great front sevens.

  116. “Fewest targets, most interceptions.”

    The facts speak louder than Sherman ever could.

    He reminds me so much of Rodman in his prime, massively misunderstood (by his own doing) and still underappreciated.

    That being said, he needs a few more seasons under his belt before we start bringing up the Deion comparisons.

    #gohawks

  117. The difference between Rodman and Sherman is that everyone disliked Rodman. His teammates, coaches and management barely tolerated him. Quite the opposite with Sherman, listen to the mic-ed up Super Bowl audio… [earl – “hey Sherman.. I love you man” sherm – “I love you to bro”]

    There is something fundamentally different going on in Seattle and the rest of the league knows it and they’re trying to catch up. Carroll has these guys far beyond the usual “we’re all on the same page” stuff.

    Look at how they handle Marshawn. That guy would get benched on half the teams in this league simply because the bruised egos he causes (teammates and coaches).
    Not in Seattle.

    Percy Harvin sits from injury, for basically, the entire season and what do the Hawks do… they rally around him. Other teams would start to question his toughness or send him back out too soon.
    Not in Seattle.

    The NFC west is bloodsport, it’s the Camden, NJ of pro sports. Either you circle the waggons and take care of your own or you die. Richard Sherman knows this, he runs his mouth for this exact reason, on very specific occasions. His teammates, coaches and fans rally around him – it’s called the 12th man, you may have heard of it.

    FWIW… Andre Reed, nice Sunday receiver and good career stats, but HOF, really? In 5 AFC championship games the guy had 16 TOTAL receptions for 177 yards. And his best Superbowl line was 8 catches in a 52 to 17 blowout.

    #gohawks

  118. Of course Reed is right. In his day defensive holding was called upon contact impeding the receiver, not when the ambulance arrived. In a properly officiated game Reed gets 100 yds and 2 TDs

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