Ravens making a mockery of John Harbaugh’s “high standard”

AP

With a Super Bowl title and consistent success, the Ravens are often held up as a model NFL organization.

But this offseason, the most consistent thing they’ve done is gather information about their latest arrest.

Last weekend, cornerback Jimmy Smith became the fifth Ravens player to be arrested this offseason, his on disorderly conduct charges.

That flies in the face of the message coach John Harbaugh was stressing at the end of OTAs, when he said the team has the same standard for dealing with players now.

It’s always the same high standard,” Harbaugh said, via Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun. “We will always have the same high standard for our guys, and it’s the same message. . . .

“And we’ve emphasized what we need to with our guys. We have good, really good guys. Football matters to them. The more it matters to you, the less inclined you are to do anything to jeopardize that.”

Somebody should tell that to the players.

The most embarrassing case was the assault charges against running back Ray Rice for knocking his now-wife unconscious (for which she apologized at a press conference and the team ridiculously tweeted from the official account).

But one arrest can happen to any team.

The Ravens have also had Lorenzo Taliaferro arrested for destruction of property (going Ray Rice on a cab), and public intoxication, Jah Reid for two counts of battery and Deonte Thompson for suspicion of possession of marijuana.

When Smith was asked for identification by the police this weekend, he replied with the classic: “I’m Jimmy Smith, I play for the Ravens.”

Since their five arrests are more than any other team in the league (the other 31 clubs have combined for 14), the cops probably should have known that already.

97 responses to “Ravens making a mockery of John Harbaugh’s “high standard”

  1. High Standards? Aren’t they building a Lewis statue? Consistent success? Is that what you call 8-8?

  2. I wanna take a moment to congratulate any Ravens fan still proudly admitting they’re a Ravens fan. All the bandwagon fans have jumped free by now. The ones that are left are the true fans, the ones who stick through those inevitable moments every team’s fans face eventually, where their team looks incredibly bad to almost everyone else. Y’all get props for sticking it out. I salute you even as I troll your ridiculous team.

  3. “With a Super Bowl title and consistent success, the Ravens are often held up as a model NFL organization.”

    Bahahaha!!!!!!

    That is some seriously high comedy for a Monday morning

  4. “Since their five arrests are more than any other team in the league (the other 31 clubs have combined for 14), the cops probably should have known that already.”

    I like it haha. Seriously though it seems every year one club stands out from the rest in this area. I think police departments nationwide convene in the early spring and decide which municipality will will focus on NFL players that year.

  5. Not a Ravens fan, far from it. But this really makes me wonder. When Ray Lewis retired, Baltimore went on a historic run. Flacco even played like Joe Montana (if you ask Ravens fans).

    Everyone on that team played their hearts out for that man.

    Once he left, they had an 8-8 season, and now the 5th arrest of the off season. I dont ever remember them having this much trouble when Lewis was there.

    If Harbaugh doesnt straighten this mess out soon, Baltimore may need to start looking for a new Head Coach.

  6. Can you really be a model franchise when your most celebrated player took part in the murder of another human being?

    Just because you can call yourself a model franchise doesn’t make it true.

  7. Aside from Rice, what is the big deal? All are minor offenses, I don’t want a team of choir boys. I don’t mind a little attitude. You guys should be thanking them for all the material.

  8. What is suspicion of possession of Marijuana?

    You either possess something or you don’t. Was he wearing a die dyed shirt and they just arrested him?

    When you get arrested, they empty your pockets. You either have a bag of weed on you or you don’t.

    That’s like winning the Nobel Prize for suspicion of physics.

  9. No excuse for Rice, Reid and Thompson, but now people are making a lot out of nothing here.

    A misdemeanor charge because a player refuses to leave a nauseated intoxicated woman he was with? I’d hope every man out there would do the same thing.

    Of course when the punching bag is being held, the media won’t hold anything back…

  10. As a Steeler fan, I will say that the Ravens have been a very good organization football-wise. But they fell hard after winning the Super Bowl to not even making the playoffs, lost some senior leadership, and now are experiencing this terrible offseason of legal issues. I am somewhat shocked that the Ravens have not taken any action themselves against Rice. I recall the Steelers dealing with Holmes themselves after he was caught smoking pot, etc.

    The lack of discipline on the Ravens is staggering, for their standards. If the team doesn’t make some type of “statement” about all this soon, they could be in for a very rude awakening this season and sink to their worst record in years.

    Thank goodness the Steelers have had a quiet off-season.

  11. Same as always. When a players a starter or a key piece of the team (Ray Rice) they’ll get a slap on the wrist by the team.

    If a 3rd string FA pickup smashed his wife unconcious then he would be cut a few days later. Look at the Pats and Hernandez, yeah theres ‘innocent until proven guilty’ but they washed their hands of him straight away.

    The Colts got rid of some decent young players instantly as well the second they got into trouble.

    The Ravens are total hypocrites, then again they are the team who stood by Ray Lewis

  12. Harbaugh has never been in charge of this team.

    The Ravens have been the perfect example of the inmates running the insane asylum

    The only difference now is that law enforcement is catching up to them

  13. I love all of the off-season blunders by the Ravens. After they loss to the Bengals in the opener, we are going to blast them on Thursday nite and effectively end their season and put them in the celler of the division where they belong. Go Steelers!!

  14. I can get past the drugs, disorderly conducts etc. But how as a man do you walk past Ray Rice in the hallways of the Ravens offices without having the image of him dragging his girlfriend by the hair out of the elevator after he knocked her out ? And how are you ok with that Ozzie ?

    And how do you coach him on the field without having that same image run through your head Coach Harbaugh ?

    It’s called being a man. And the three of you failed at it. He should have been cut. Plain & simple.

  15. I call it the “Ray Lewis” effect. Once you turn a blind eye to criminal activity, you are hard pressed to set a standard going forward.

    A close analogy is the cheating Patriots. Once they accepted cheating as a means to winning, they lowered their standards and is it really a surprise that one of their better players is in jail awaiting a murder trial? Ok, his lawyer is not as good as Ray Lewis’s but the consequences are still the same.

  16. clipper522 says:
    Jul 14, 2014 9:01 AM
    No excuse for Rice, Reid and Thompson, but now people are making a lot out of nothing here.

    A misdemeanor charge because a player refuses to leave a nauseated intoxicated woman he was with? I’d hope every man out there would do the same thing.

    Of course when the punching bag is being held, the media won’t hold anything back…

    Really?? You hope every man would do the same thing?? So you are saying that you hope that every man would refuse to move so that the paramedics, which are the people that are trained to help in that situation, not an NFL conerback, can do their jobs. I hope no women ever needs paramedics while you are around because you wouldnt let them help her!!!

  17. Facts are facts… Most of these cloowns would be in jail anyway if it wasn’t for sports .. Coaches say this stuff on a regular basis, in both college and pro ball because they also want to keep their high end salaries, they like the players, the owners and the commissioner could care less…

  18. The “other” Harbaugh’s team isn’t doing so well at staying out off the police blotter, either. Coincidence? Methinks not!

  19. They stood by lewis, knowing he took the lives of 2 men. Call it murder, manslaughter, whatever. Bottom line is that he ended two lives. If the scumbag front office fools kept lewis, u know they’re going to give rice a pass too. Most morally bankrupt organization in sports. Not open for debate.

  20. Let’s be real, the Ravens and Ray Lewis sold their souls to the devil for success. Now the devil has come to collect. Ravens are in for many years of misery ahead.

  21. Maybe Jim can come over and give them a pep speech about being above reproach, like his team…yeah, that’s the ticket…

  22. “laxer37 says: Jul 14, 2014 8:43 AM

    Can you really be a model franchise when your most celebrated player took part in the murder of another human being?”

    Only thing he’s guilty of is being there as that was his entourage, not snitching on the guys that did it, and trying to cover it up which in reality is against the law. It’s really hard to say he took part in a murder when witnesses say that that he tried to break up the initial confrontation that started IN the club. If read up on the information out there, and there is a lot, the guys who they like to victimize that got stabbed helped start the fight. I’m not saying they should of died but they made poor decisions and weren’t innocent people. One of them was only in Atlanta has he fled there cause of a warrant, “Baker was wanted for violating probation on gun possession.”

    That then continued after everybody left around 3:30 (when nothing good happens) and unfortunately Ray kept the wrong company around. One guy he knew in college (Sweetings) and another that just got in his inner circle through other people that he barely knew (Oakley) but he was also 24 and $26 Million rich, you make dumb decisions.

    Everything points to him not stabbing anybody. Yeah Ray Lewis tried to cover a lot of it up for people that he shouldn’t of but 24 years up. They weren’t his friends, also one made a rap telling on himself saying he should of stabbed Lewis too cause he “testified” against him. Ray Lewis is one of those loyalty guys to an extreme fault, all it did was cost him his name but people should use this as an example.

    When you have money, keep your circle small. Not even a Ravens fan but from North Philly and seen many a rodeo like this. Always somebody that has the chance to go somewhere trying to take up for people that are low lives because of “loyalty” and it only ruins theirs.

  23. Not a Ravens fan, but I am surprised with all the Steelers fans who show up and act like they are a model organization who takes swift action when a player gets out of line. The fact that Roethlisberger remained your quarterback is a joke.

  24. clipper522 says: Jul 14, 2014 9:01 AM

    A misdemeanor charge because a player refuses to leave a nauseated intoxicated woman he was with? I’d hope every man out there would do the same thing.

    _____________

    Stop Lying.

    Arrested for refusing to let paramedics check out/assist the woman. What kind of moron thinks that is acceptable behavior.

  25. Oh jamaltihore, c’mon man. If this happened to Big Ben, AJ Green, or Josh Gordon (oops, bad example), you would be up on your proverbial high horse talking smack about “high standards” or whatever. Time to take your medicine.

  26. these guys just happen to play football…its a society issue…that stems back to parenting , you don’t have to have money to have class!!!!!

  27. @orivar:

    You’re right, absolutely. But, you’re preaching to a bunch of people who troll this site day in and day out. They don’t care for facts or reality, they just care about their own righteous opinions.

    Regardless, props for knowing.

  28. Larger example of societal decay, obeying laws is so 20th century. These days it’s do whatever you feel like and then whine until someone else is forced to pay for it.

  29. Orivar your an idiot. And you are what is wrong with this country. Your indifference is sickening. Ray Lewis is a murderer. Plain and simple. He stabbed two men to death, threatened his friends with similar fates if they talked and then ditched his knife and bloody suit. You don’t get blood on a suit if you didn’t stab them. Stop lying to yourself

  30. I’m going to try that the next time I get arrested (which would be the first time).

    “I’m Scott. I work for Nationwide!”

    I’m convinced I will be released immediately — and receive an exhaustive apology.

  31. logicalvoicesays says: Jul 14, 2014 8:36 AM

    Theres another pro football team in Maryland besides the Redskins?

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    The “Redskins” is a racial slur, not a pro football team.

  32. Harbaugh and High standards.
    That might be the funniest thing I’ve read on PFT in a long time.
    I thought I saw Ray Rice and his wife in a hotel again over the weekend. I was wrong. It was a guy dragging his luggage out of the elevator!
    Someone please wake me up when they find Ray Lewis’ blood stained clothing.
    I guess when they release OJ from prison he can find his wife’s killer and Ray Lewis’ clothing!

  33. I told you the arrow was point down. Cocaine was involved in this. Smith wouldn’t let the cops in until he flush the cocaine. I take pleasure in watching this debacle of an organization.

    Less than two weeks until camp. This division is ours by default.

  34. You guys act like football is a gentlemen’s game and these guys should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. They do dumb stuff that we humans are capable of. We just know who they are. Nobody will care when game 1 kicks off. The fake morality goes out of the window as soon as a tackle or touchdown is made.

  35. Steeler fans shouldn’t be talking about anything that’s gone on in bathrooms….. Just ask your QB and former kicker.

    But honestly it’s disappointing as a fan to see this but if you think an employer has the ability to dictate how you live your life, you’re either an employee of the state and in prison or never been employed in your life.

    Had Jimmy Smith been drafted by the Steelers, Jaguars, Colts, or Patriots it would be no different. Knuckleheads are knuckleheads no matter what helmet they cover it with.

  36. handsofsteelhartofstone says:
    Jul 14, 2014 10:31 AM
    Orivar your an idiot. And you are what is wrong with this country. Your indifference is sickening. Ray Lewis is a murderer. Plain and simple. He stabbed two men to death, threatened his friends with similar fates if they talked and then ditched his knife and bloody suit. You don’t get blood on a suit if you didn’t stab them. Stop lying to yourself

    —————-

    That would be you… The person who can’t even use google to defend their position.

  37. These are the same people calling Johnny football a bust and a bad influence because he goes to parties and has a drink or two.
    True, its not a gentlemans game. But there is a bit of a difference between partying or having a few and obstructing justice, beating your girlfriend, drugs, DWI . Sorry campcouch, that is not “boys will be boys” it is criminal behavior regardless of who is doing it. Its not a higher standard its the same standard. In fact they get a break most of the time because they can afford much better lawyers than the average schlub.

  38. handsofsteelhartofstone says:
    Jul 14, 2014 10:31 AM
    Orivar your an idiot.

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    You’re*

  39. Kinda funny. Both of the Harbaugh brothers are having great success’s as head coaches, but their teams are leading the leauge in mug shots/rap sheets as well. Quality coahing form the Hrbaugh boys eh????

  40. Ray Lewis was involved in a situation in which a man died, and Jamal Lewis funded a cocaine deal for which he received a wag of the finger and a “tsk tsk.”

    How is this a model organization? Seems like business as usual in Baltimore.

  41. So does Harbs come down hard NOW.

    Kinda sounds like Jimmy is down the list on the stupid mistake meter…..
    Course we are at a point where every traffic ticket is gonna Harbs look less and less like a coach and more and more like a coaches son who fell into a great job with Ray Lewis and Ed Reed coaching the team to a title.

  42. These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.
    You can go about your business. Move along.

  43. Most arrests for 2013 was the 49ers followed closely by the Bronco’s.
    I guess the Ravens are looking for that title in 2014.

  44. I assumed the title was referring to the mockery made on the football field last year.

  45. stunzeed5 says:
    Jul 14, 2014 11:39 AM
    The Ravens…..the Redskins little brother. The whole area is ruled by the Skins
    ______________________________________
    Not even close. Nobody in Baltimore cheers for the Redskins. Unless by the area you mean Montogomery county and Silver Spring.
    Redskins are a DC and Virginia team, losing more VA fans to Seattle every passing day.

  46. ‘Once [Ray Lewis] left, they had an 8-8 season, and now the 5th arrest of the off season. I dont ever remember them having this much trouble when Lewis was there.”

    Except for, you know, Ray Lewis killing people.

  47. In any other offseason this wouldn’t be newsworthy. Only a couple more weeks until training camp hopefully puts this all behind us. Not a big fan of the title of this article either.

  48. mockery? Steelers had the same record. murder? the two men who were brought to trial were ruled not guilty by self defense since Ray and his friends were attacked. but don’t let facts get in the way. the skins…lol. now that’s funny. all that said…come on ravens. act like pros. this is getting old

  49. We’re gonna mock around the clock tonight,
    We’re gonna mock, mock, mock, ’till broad daylight,
    We’re gonna mock, we’re gonna mock around the clock tonight.

  50. The joke is on who when the Ravens miss the playoffs… again?
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

  51. “What is suspicion of possession of Marijuana?

    You either possess something or you don’t. Was he wearing a die dyed shirt and they just arrested him?

    When you get arrested, they empty your pockets. You either have a bag of weed on you or you don’t.

    That’s like winning the Nobel Prize for suspicion of physics.”
    ________________________________

    Dude, just like we constantly hear “suspicion of DUI.” You can say the same thing, you’re either under the influence or not.

    That said, it’s funny how this works with celebrities. Has anybody’s buddy ever been arrested on “suspicion of DUI?” Nope, they just call it what it is when you’re not rich.

  52. lmao almost spit water all over my laptop at the “forevermore” comment…well played sir. I don’t get it, it’s like NFL players are compelled to make dumb decisions. The “Love Boat” scandal on Lake Minnetonka (insert Prince/Chappelle comment here) is still very fresh in my mind.

  53. I AM a Ravens fan and Orioles fan. Been an O’s fan all my life. Unfortunately the Baltimore Colts left town right at the age sports started to matter to me. At that time I was a fan of football in general until the day the CFL Stallions came to town, then the Ravens.

    I am not going to sit here and condone anything these players have done on this team. I can still be a fan of the team and stop supporting certain individuals on it if they have done something I don’t agree with. I’ve lost respect for Ray Rice and won’t be cheering him on at all anymore. The other guys mentioned had minor infractions although it never looks good when you are in a restroom with an unconscious woman…so I am waiting to hear further details on that story.

    That being said lets move on to the stupid things other posters are saying here. First of all, if you are posting here and thinking your team is full of choir boys, you’ve lost the plot. This is the first season Harbaugh has been here that we’re hearing about a lot of off field issues.

    Secondly, since Joe Flacco and Harbaugh have been here, they do not have a single losing season. Their worst season was 8-8. I would classify that as consistent success. Over the same period of time the Steelers have no losing seasons, but have gone 8-8 twice, and the Bengals have had a 4-11-1 and a 4-12 season, while having 4 winning seasons over the same time frame. When you consider all of these teams play in the same division, that’s pretty impressive.

  54. the off season is not over yet.lets wait and see who else from the league screws up.it might just be a player from your team.just wait!!

  55. John Harbaugh doesn’t seem to be quite as much of a tool as Jim, but I think a lot of people are ready for both of them go away.

  56. Rice should be ban from the NFL, it’s a shame that he is still in the NFL. THANK YOU ROGER

  57. I generally don’t hop in to defend the Ravens organization, but I’m going to this go round.

    NFL players are not chosen based upon their morals. They aren’t selected based upon their community service and general good nature. They are selected because they are physical specimens that don’t mind a bit of violence.

    And while Ray Lewis was certainly involved in a tragic event, which his level of involvement will always be disputed, he was able to turn his life around, stay out of trouble and be a leader for his team. You’d tow the line as well if you were in a locker room with a guy that crazy. Ed Reed leaving was also something that created a vaccuum of leadership. Joe Flacco isn’t reaching out to make an impact on a bunch of inner city kids dealing with everything that comes with being a professional athlete.

    The coaches are able to be involved with their players during the season, but because of the CBA they are not able to have much offseason contact. That means that at any given time there are 1696 man-children running around with money, fame and too much free time.

  58. the off season is not over yet.lets wait and see who else from the league screws up.it might just be a player from your team.just wait!!

    So then you wait when it was players from other teams… right?

  59. Teams act as their coaches preaches, still waiting to see what Gödel thinks of these high standards.

  60. no kenbell. you are wrong. read up on some facts. or better yet, everyone read SteelerBen’s post. smartest thing anyone has posted in a long time

  61. Some good jokes out there on us!! LOL! These are grown men playing a game that our Nation is deemed very important and treat them like they are all that by paying large sums of money and catering to them. They haven’t grown up. Owners, GMs, and coaches can’t be with them 24/7 and when they fail to adhere to society’s standards they should be subjected to the same as every other citizen. As annoyed as I may be to hear of players on the team I root for do stupid stuff well, I’m the 1st to say if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime! To send the proper message, I agree at some point the team leadership needs to send a message through their own actions and not the league front office. They should have cut a couple of players earlier instead of having them come into camp and then cut them next month. I think 2 of those from the off-season troubles won’t make the team and Rice will be suspended for several games.

  62. Now you and everyone can see what it looks like when you have a leader like Ray Lewis leave the team!! With No ONE to answer to, these young bucks take full advantage of the system. Wait till Harbaugh has to go “Chris Carter” on them and let someone go!! Then they will wake up and smell the coffee! All you need to do is tell them. Who ever gets into crap!!! Is automatically going to be sitting on the bench!! Or released!! Ten you will get there attention!!

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