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Jameis Winston is fine with not getting paid

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Maybe Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston should change his major to business.  Because it’s obvious that the 2013 Heisman Trophy winner doesn’t fully understand economics — and he doesn’t comprehend the manner in which the billion-dollar machine that is college football is screwing him.

As explained by John Taylor of CFT, Winston opened the ACC Media Days by launching into a passionate defense of simply getting room, board, and tuition in return for helping his college and its conference and, ultimately, NCAA Incorporated generate far more value that he’ll ever realize.

It’s very important to me,” Winston said.  “I was always raised as a student first and an athlete second. . . .

“I think that’s the main purpose in college.  Some athletes lose that perspective.  It’s about being a student-athlete, and not just getting that easy money and going to the league.  Even if kids leave early, I would want them to come back and get that degree. . . .

“We’re blessed to get a free education . . . and that’s enough for me.”

It shouldn’t be.  Winston’s talents and physical sacrifices generate revenue that isn’t being fairly shared with him, thanks to a system that quite possibly violates federal antitrust laws by allowing the various colleges to hide behind an artificial limitation on what an athlete can receive in return for his efforts.

Maybe Winston is simply accepting the fact that nothing will change in time for him to get any of the money, which means there’s no reason to complain about something that ultimately won’t matter.  But if that mindset prompts Winston to remain at Florida State after 2014 at a time when the NFL is ready to make him one of the top picks in the 2015 draft, he’ll be making a huge mistake.

Most if not all kids go to college to develop marketable skills.  Winston’s most marketable skills flow from his physical talents.  The longer he plays college football, the greater the chance those skills will be diminished by serious injury.  If/when the window opens for Winston or any other college player to be compensated for his abilities, the business savvy that would flow from a free education points to the unmistakable conclusion of getting paid now and finishing the education later.

Until then, Winston is unwittingly giving Florida State and the rest of the college system even greater value by aiding the process of influencing other kids to continue to get far less than they deserve for the services they are providing.  If, after all, a free education is good enough for Jameis Winston, it should be good enough for them, too.

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  1. joeflaccoallday says: Jul 20, 2014 8:19 PM

    This post is on the money. He’s acting like he can’t do classes during the dead period of the NFL like most athletes do. Dude is kinda slow on how it works.

  2. jimmy53 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:21 PM

    I really appreciate the focus he puts on his academics, but it’s definitely risky–especially when you consider that he is going to be losing a lot of his current offense linemen.

  3. freddiec8 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:21 PM

    Just though in some crab legs.

  4. rodge1 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:22 PM

    He’s already getting paid.

  5. norvturnersneck says: Jul 20, 2014 8:24 PM

    Anytime he sees food, he gets free seafood.

  6. KIR says: Jul 20, 2014 8:26 PM

    He made Florida State MILLIONS yet he couldn’t afford to buy some crab legs. Yeap, that makes sense.

  7. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 20, 2014 8:26 PM

    Well if he changed his major to business then he would need to stick around even longer in order to get enough credits to complete that degree. Plus the more you learn about “business”, the more you find out that the real world of “business” is a pretty ugly one. Sometimes I envy those that are ignorant as to just how ugly business can get in this country.

    Either way, it’s his decision to make and if he wants to promote the system of giving high value services to his school at great personal risk and encourage others to stay in school, then that’s his business. It might not be that much longer before other student-athletes will have greater knowledge about what the system is that they are a part of and to have more options to make it more fair and worthwhile to be a part of that system.

    So have a great year in college, gain some maturity, develop those QB skills, and most importantly don’t get hurt or get into trouble or have anything bad happen to you such as developing a drug habit or getting into an accident or being the victim of a crime. Do all that and you might have a bright future in the NFL!

  8. gayforbrady says: Jul 20, 2014 8:28 PM

    People who annoy you….I’m going to solve the puzzle. ………ohhhh

  9. sylvester000001 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:30 PM

    “Maybe Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston should change his major to business. Because it’s obvious that the 2013 Heisman Trophy winner doesn’t fully understand economics — and he doesn’t comprehend the manner in which the billion-dollar machine that is college football is screwing him.”

    Or maybe his simply sees things different than you, and you as a core lefty don’t understand the idea of others thinking differently. How dare one have their own mind and opinion that differs. Shame on him.

    Also typical lefty is the lefty making decisions for someone else in making oneself the decider of “screwing him”. I know this is a concept foreign to the lefty, but, you simply are not the decider. Of anything. Leftys don’t get this concept. You are not the decider over others. As is pertains here, it is not a case of ignorance nor unintelligence to say free education is pay enough. What it is, is simply different than you; a concept the lefty can still never grasp.

    “” “We’re blessed to get a free education . . . and that’s enough for me.”

    It shouldn’t be. “”

    Again another example of the thirst for power of the lefty. Again, YOU do not decide for others. And again, the lefty does not understand this simple concept.

    So what we have here is a typical exposition. This is nothing but a rant, without using the word stupid, to call someone stupid for seeing things differently.

  10. yt24 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:32 PM

    Thief 1st, Student 2nd, Athlete 3rd

  11. gayforbrady says: Jul 20, 2014 8:33 PM

    Sounds like he has been coached on how to answer questions.

    He must have tiger wood’s coach.

  12. mikeyhigs says: Jul 20, 2014 8:42 PM

    Maybe, just maybe, money isn’t his ultimate life long dream. Maybe, just maybe, he enjoys the college life and doesn’t want to give it up for money.

  13. rustycohle says: Jul 20, 2014 8:44 PM

    4.0 student who was accepted to med school at Stanford. But yeah, he’s stupid…

    This kid also loves baseball and may very well go in that direction. There is no pressure on him to go pro in football.

  14. FinFan68 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:45 PM

    and he doesn’t comprehend the manner in which the billion-dollar machine that is college football is screwing him.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You are wrong here in several ways. I see a kid who (at least in these comments) actually gets it. He is receiving a free education at a prestigious university. He is also afforded the opportunity to hone his skills and get recognized on a national level through the school’s football program. If not for college football very few of these players would ever get to the NFL. Teams cannot (if they were allowed to) gamble on kids whose only resume is HS football. They would quickly get behind a developmental league to forage talent.

    You are a lawyer, journalist, pro-union, and most likely a “liberal”/progressive. All of those aspects typically are against any large entity/corporation (except gov’t) and are for the “little guy” who can’t or doesn’t know he needs to defend himself. You see persecution where there isn’t any. These athletes are compensated plenty whether or not you believe they should get more. By your logic Walmart cashiers should be paid a lot because without them, no sales are made and Walmart wouldn’t be making billions per quarter. Don’t belittle this athlete because he is not worshiping the almighty dollar like you think he should. He knows he will make plenty in the NFL and he values his education right now. He has insurance in case his football potential is unfulfilled due to catastrophic injury. Sounds like this kid is being smart for the long-term. Get off your high horse on this one. Your desire for college football athletes to be paid is not thought out completely and has biased your article on this particular player.

  15. qdog112 says: Jul 20, 2014 8:46 PM

    Winston will be outta Tallahassee so fast, it will make your head swim. There’s absolutely no reason for him to delay making millions and I don’t blame him one bit.

    It’s naive nonsense for his dad or anyone else to risk the family fortune or to delay accruing interest on that first huge deposit.

    It’s nuts for the #1 pick to even think like that.

  16. rajbais says: Jul 20, 2014 8:48 PM

    He’s either a phony or Matt Forte.

    We’ll know if he’s a phony if he leaves early.

    Hopefully, this comment doesn’t bite him in the rear.

  17. d2ce says: Jul 20, 2014 8:54 PM

    Regardless of Winston’s decision, it’s his decision. What gives you the authority to basically call him ignorant for contemplating a return to school for his degree. Andrew Luck just made a similar decision and it seems to have worked out for him. I also don’t recall Luck being talked about as being ignorant for making his decision.

    No need to talk down on the kid with your reporting.

  18. numberoneinthehoodg says: Jul 20, 2014 8:55 PM

    This education is free. Those crab legs are free. Laptop = free, that chick = free, this wine is free!

  19. blacknole08 says: Jul 20, 2014 9:05 PM

    Why didn’t anyone give Andrew Luck crap for wanting to come back for his senior year to finish his degree?

    If Winston wants to stay it’s his decision.

  20. rickgjags says: Jul 20, 2014 9:13 PM

    As a UF fan, I respect this. Perhaps if “professional writers” would actually give them a chance to grow up, they’d understand that maybe some of these kids get the odds.

  21. purplengold says: Jul 20, 2014 9:20 PM

    Let any student be available for the draft. If they’re not happy with the results that year then they can continue their education and still be eligible for subsequent drafts. The NCAA ensures the risk of that decision now, using it as leverage to keep the best on the roster. They hold the best players back to fill the stands and feed their machine.

  22. dmbnova7 says: Jul 20, 2014 9:24 PM

    This column is as aggravating as when Mel Kuiper ripped Matt Leinart for staying in school. Winston has a right to his opinion, a right to the the traditional view to college athletics. Questioning is one thing but declaring that he is wrong is entirely different, just as Kuiper was wrong when he attacked Leinart.

    For commenters who like to put people in neat little boxes instead of just taking opinions for what they are, I’m a lawyer, pro union most of the time, and very much to the left all of the time.

  23. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 20, 2014 9:27 PM

    best thing for Winston would be to stay in school another year to mature and learn how to stay out of trouble.. before he becomes rich

    but too risky and reality probably forces him to go

  24. ytownjoe says: Jul 20, 2014 9:34 PM

    Somehow working without pay and then stealing food from the supermarket don’t jive.

  25. floratiotime says: Jul 20, 2014 9:35 PM

    Future NFL bust and problem child.

  26. mcjon22 says: Jul 20, 2014 9:40 PM

    Peyton Manning – stayed 4 years
    Andrew Luck -stayed 4 years
    Tom Brady- stayed 4 years
    Tony Romo -stayed 4 years
    Alex Smith- stayed 4 years
    Eli Manning-stayed 4 years
    Andy Dalton- stayed 4 years
    Ryan Tannehill-stayed 4 years
    Philip Rivers-stayed 4 years
    Joe Flacco-stayed 4 years
    Ben Rothlesburger-stayed 4 years
    Jay Cutler-stayed 4 years
    Russel Wilson-stayed 4 years

    Yeah, all these guys totally ruined there future careers staying in college and getting a degree. What is Jameis Winston thinking?!?

  27. urallstupid says: Jul 20, 2014 9:40 PM

    guy whos probably gonna play pro sports after college doesnt care that he gets paid while in college? color me surprised.

  28. soup1282 says: Jul 20, 2014 9:43 PM

    Do i think they should get paid, yeah…I am coming around to it. But at least give this dude some credit for realizing what he is getting for free….for a flipping game ( that we all love)

  29. goraidersgospurs says: Jul 20, 2014 9:44 PM

    The mind of Winston

    To Ant, the first sign of smarts was at age 3, when Jameis could sit on the floor, spread out a pile of spare change and count it. Jameis started football at 4 because his mother Loretta “thought he would look cute in pads,” and by 6, he was asking his dad about making audibles.

  30. mrdelraybeach says: Jul 20, 2014 10:05 PM

    Such a stereotypical PR response from someone who’s had off the field issues; even as minor as they may be. Dude got in trouble, now is trying to suck up to the NCAA..

    Never mind the fact that, most of these college athletes, especially the football team, are paid out the ass from boosters.

    When I went to FSU, EVERY football player I saw on campus had a chevrolet or cadillac. Coincidence that Boulware owned a dealership in town? I’m sure they all took out loans, and their families afforded them.

  31. raiderapologist says: Jul 20, 2014 10:05 PM

    Winston is getting used as a college player, but that will end when he starts playing professionally? No. If he lacked athletic ability, nobody outside of his social circle would know who he is. It doesn’t matter if you’re mopping floors or slinging a football. If somebody isn’t making bank off you, you don’t have value. Money makes the world spin, and playing college ball will make money for Winston. It doesn’t work for every NCAA player, but it doesn’t work for every high school student, either.

  32. bonnovi says: Jul 20, 2014 10:09 PM

    “I get enough money under the table, so it’s good.”

  33. shawtiernan says: Jul 20, 2014 10:11 PM

    I find the whole tone of this article offensive and I just happen to be a “lefty liberal” myself.

    First of all it’s not being stupid or naive to have a different value system. I am extremely intelligent and could do almost anything I want with my education, but I want to be teacher. Does it make me stupid because I have deliberately chosen a middle class career?

    No. Money isn’t everything. It is also constantly disregarded in this debate the number of athletes who could not get in to college based on academic worth alone. Notre Dame often has to coach their recruits in what they need to accomplish just to meet the minimum requirements.

    Additionally, going to an out of state school is extraordinarily expensive, and many students like myself go to community college first just to off set cost. It costs less than 10 grand for a Texas resident to go to Texas but it costs 30 for someone out of state.

    The millions the university makes is inconsequential to me personally because they are providing an opportunity that in many cases wouldn’t otherwise be there and they’re doing it for free. They’re not screwing anyone. If they want to get paid fine, but then I say strip the scholarships, make them gain admittance on academic merit alone, and then they can take that salary and pay for school on their own.

    In a world where we are constantly reading about athletes not being able to adjust to life after sports what could be more valuable than a free education?

  34. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 20, 2014 10:14 PM

    Spot on posts Sylvester and Finfan!

  35. menofsteelers says: Jul 20, 2014 10:35 PM

    Mike I disagree with you in virtually everything you push on us with your liberal views, but on this I I’m in total agreement. I want to see these athletes make an informed choice about the risks. This post articulates the pitfalls of the system well. In short well said!

    P.S. Please don’t delete my respectful but disagreeing Redskins posts.

  36. socalraider909 says: Jul 20, 2014 11:15 PM

    all these posts about him should start throwing red flags up for whatever team wants to draft him

  37. crackbubba says: Jul 20, 2014 11:16 PM

    Wow, what a greedy viewpoint you have. Everyone posting “He should go for more money” sentiments should realize that most of these athletes fail to pan out in the big leagues. And all that “big money” he gets is gone in a couple years. Look at people like Warren Sapp, he made multiple millions and he went belly-up financially.

    While I agree that the NCAA should pay these kids, saying he is wrong to value education over millions of dollars is asinine. His education is a wonderful foundation to fall back on if he can’t cut it. You should be ashamed.

  38. dtrain81 says: Jul 20, 2014 11:23 PM

    I can’t stand when someone ( the writer of this story) completely throws their political views in. Dude we get it, your a liberal blue blooded cool-aid sipper. Not all college athletes want your union. Cool your rhetoric and report the news.

  39. lukedunphysscienceproject says: Jul 20, 2014 11:33 PM

    People seem to be confused on here about liberalism v. conservatism.

    The idea that someone should get paid market value for their work is not a liberal idea, it’s a conservative one. Everyone should make whatever a FREE market would be willing to pay them. Supply and Demand, Conservative Economic Theory 101.

    The idea that an athlete should toil for the “good of the team” or the University and accept whatever pittance the University wants to give them, is the true Liberal, actually Socialist, idea.

    If you believe athletes should shut up and take what they can get while the NCAA and NFL conspire to hold wages down and steal money from the people who actually earned it, Then you believe in artificial control of markets by a government or other powerful entity. And if you that’s a CONSERVATIVE idea, you are deeply confused.

  40. cedarstrength says: Jul 21, 2014 12:43 AM

    One of the biggest things the NCAA does to screw themselves is not allowing these kids to make any money while they are under scholarship. I was a DI athlete and I always thought it was ridiculous that I had to report any earnings I made through odd college jobs, and that full ticket jocks could only make a few thousand dollars a year, even through legitimate earnings. Let these kids make money on their own (even through endorsements). I have no problem with Nike giving the best college football player in the country an endorsement. Why should I? He has earned the right to make money off of his ability. The fact that the NCAA won’t let them is ridiculous. Monitor the boosters, monitor the grades, and behavior, but allow these kids to make a living if they choose to. I don’t see anything wrong with that. The school doesn’t have to pay them. You want the endorsement kid? Work hard like the rest of us and earn it by being good at your job, and then when you go pro you’ll be better for it anyway.

  41. bobby1980 says: Jul 21, 2014 1:30 AM

    They should take advantage of the free education they are getting. Very few of these guys will play in the nfl and I believe the average career is only about 3 years. I don’t blame them for leaving a year early if they will be a high draft pick but that education will help them the rest of their lives.

  42. randomcommenter says: Jul 21, 2014 1:48 AM

    All of college football may be a billion dollar industry but that doesn’t mean each school is making tons of money.

    Fact is, most schools LOSE money on football. Alabama makes lots of money, but schools like Toledo and Iowa State don’t and there are more of those schools.

    Paying players will simply lead to many programs dropping football or dropping down to a lower level of competition.

    The result? Far fewer scholarships for needy kids as the FBS level (formerly Div 1) shrinks from the current 128 teams to about 70 or so who are part of the major conferences.

    With 85 scholarships per team, that would be nearly 5000 fewer kids who get a scholarship every year.

    But hey, that FSU QB and Bama RB will have the cash to get the new iPhone. Maybe the kid who would have gone to Florida Atlantic but now works at Walmart will sell it to him.

  43. Ed Bandell says: Jul 21, 2014 6:42 AM

    If this author has a problem with the way the NCAA acts in football there are several solutions:

    1) Start paying the students who play football.

    2) Stop allowing the colleges to make so much money.

    What a lot of people fail to realize is that NCAA football is like the middle class of America. It subsidizes the poor and is there to make the rich richer. Without football generating as much money as it does, you could kiss just about every single other sport goodbye because football pays for them all. You could also kiss more scholarships goodbye, and the college might also have monetary issues and not be able to afford to offer as many services and classes without the money it makes from football.

    I don’t think anyone should starve, so I could see giving the football players some arrangement for free food in the college cafeteria. They already get free rooms and if you think that’s cheap, go ahead and try to rent a hotel room for a few months and see what that bill looks like. They are also getting an education which in most of the top schools is probably worth anywhere from $50k-$100K+

    It also offers a place for these players to showcase their talents and if they are lucky enough, can go on to make millions of dollars that most others getting a college degree won’t make in their lifetime.

  44. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 21, 2014 7:36 AM

    Mike does not believe in America, its values or our rights

    Hail to the Redskins!

  45. broncostevenp says: Jul 21, 2014 7:47 AM

    This America. If people want to buy his jersey he should get paid. If someone wants to pay him for his autograph he should keep the $. Don’t have the schools pay him, have the businesses and customers that what to pay him pay him. Put this to bed already. Get rid of title 9 for crying out loud.

  46. chris1cat says: Jul 21, 2014 7:52 AM

    “King Crab”

  47. jpaq68 says: Jul 21, 2014 8:27 AM

    He’s not getting a free education – he’s getting a free degree.

    I know it’s not fair to judge a book by it’s’ cover, but after reading a few pages in, it’s obvious that the kid is not too bright.

    I’m sure the powers that be at FSU are making sure that he “passes” all the classes he takes.

  48. rutchaser says: Jul 21, 2014 8:27 AM

    Peyton Manning – stayed 4 years
    Andrew Luck -stayed 4 years
    Tom Brady- stayed 4 years
    Tony Romo -stayed 4 years
    Alex Smith- stayed 4 years
    Eli Manning-stayed 4 years
    Andy Dalton- stayed 4 years
    Ryan Tannehill-stayed 4 years
    Philip Rivers-stayed 4 years
    Joe Flacco-stayed 4 years
    Ben Rothlesburger-stayed 4 years
    Jay Cutler-stayed 4 years
    Russel Wilson-stayed 4 years

    Good post but I don’t think Romo, Tannehill and Brady had a choice. Their talents weren’t wanted or noticed early in the NFL.

  49. shelldawg says: Jul 21, 2014 8:51 AM

    It will be a cold day in you-know-where before I accept some rant about “economics” from a liberal. Economics is the study of scarce resources which have alternative uses, while POLITICAL SCIENCE is the study of who gets what – and liberals are only able to see the world through the prism of the latter. You want to create a minor league for football a la Major League Baseball? Have at it. Pay them there. But there is a sanctity to the idea of student-athletes and the educational component of that equation should not be tarnished more than it already is. Shame on you for taking a cheap shot at Jameis Winston and bravo to him for valuing education.

  50. skoalbrother says: Jul 21, 2014 8:55 AM

    The kid is a genius. He’s locking up the Heisman vote before the season starts. Think of all the aging “H voters” wanting to protect their schools and the current collegiate athletic system. Personally I think the guy is a dirt bag, but it is a nice move to become a 2 time Heisman winner.

  51. ctiggs says: Jul 21, 2014 9:01 AM

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    mcjon22 says:Jul 20, 2014 9:40 PM

    Peyton Manning – stayed 4 years
    Andrew Luck -stayed 4 years
    Tom Brady- stayed 4 years
    Tony Romo -stayed 4 years
    Alex Smith- stayed 4 years
    Eli Manning-stayed 4 years
    Andy Dalton- stayed 4 years
    Ryan Tannehill-stayed 4 years
    Philip Rivers-stayed 4 years
    Joe Flacco-stayed 4 years
    Ben Rothlesburger-stayed 4 years
    Jay Cutler-stayed 4 years
    Russel Wilson-stayed 4 years

    ———————————————————-

    Sir Colin Kaepernick- stayed 4 years

  52. qdog112 says: Jul 21, 2014 9:47 AM

    The kid may have a MLB future. Risking injury in football makes no sense on so many levels.

    Granted, the college experience can’t be matched. The closest thing is the military. But, logically, to stay for anything other than the “college experience” doesn’t make sense.

    When I say college experience, I mean outside of sports. Campus life is special, even figuring out how to budget your time and limited money.

  53. wishingtonredslur says: Jul 21, 2014 9:58 AM

    I wouldn’t hire a football player with or without a degree. If you got one you didn’t earn it.

  54. bigblu73 says: Jul 21, 2014 10:05 AM

    rutchaser says:
    Jul 21, 2014 8:27 AM
    Peyton Manning – stayed 4 years
    Andrew Luck -stayed 4 years
    Tom Brady- stayed 4 years
    Tony Romo -stayed 4 years
    Alex Smith- stayed 4 years
    Eli Manning-stayed 4 years
    Andy Dalton- stayed 4 years
    Ryan Tannehill-stayed 4 years
    Philip Rivers-stayed 4 years
    Joe Flacco-stayed 4 years
    Ben Rothlesburger-stayed 4 years
    Jay Cutler-stayed 4 years
    Russel Wilson-stayed 4 years

    Good post but I don’t think Romo, Tannehill and Brady had a choice. Their talents weren’t wanted or noticed early in the NFL.
    ****************************************************************************************

    To piggyback your point, Tannehill shouldn’t be on this list, he was playing WR 2 of those years!!Lol And as you aptly put it, the league wasn’t exactly knocking down the door for any of those guys to leave early.

    However Winston is in a position NONE of those other 4 year QB’s have ever been in. He has already accomplished being the youngest Heisman Trophy Winner of all time,2nd Freshmen Heisman Trophy winner, First Freshmen Heisman/National Champion. From a “business” perspective his value cannot possibly go any higher. The opportunity to come back to school during the offseason to complete a degree will be there. The opportunity to be drafted #1 overall and secure his and his families financial future may not always be there(Jake Locker). The choice is clearly his, yet I do also think Florio overstepped his bounds by insinuating a lack of intellect on Winston’s behalf. Bestowing ones beliefs and values upon another and beholding it as absolute truth; is about as ignorant, arrogant, and pompous as it gets!

  55. floratiotime says: Jul 21, 2014 11:08 AM

    “Sir Colin Kaepernick- stayed 4 years”

    3 more and he would have graduated.

  56. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jul 21, 2014 1:41 PM

    A free education and free food at the local market don’t forget.

    Try not to laugh out loud when you read the “student first athlete second” line of sheet.

    F ree
    S hoes
    U niversity

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