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Packers remain a top-five team, despite recent disappointments

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The Packers have Aaron Rodgers.  That’s good enough to put them at the top of the league.

Whether the rest of the team is good enough to close the deal remains to be seen.

The defense has a few new pieces, and the offense has lost some parts.  But with Rodgers on the roster, the Packers will be good enough to win the NFC North and make a run deep into the postseason.

Since winning Super Bowl XLV, the Packers haven’t made it back to the NFC title game.  This year could be the year, but they’ll need to address some deficiencies — and hope Rodgers doesn’t get injured again.

So are we being too optimistic?  Too pessimistic?  Appropriately -istic?  Cast a vote below.

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57 Responses to “Packers remain a top-five team, despite recent disappointments”
  1. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 20, 2014 3:25 PM

    Hard to say right now, the last several years the teams in their division have really stunk the place up and couldn’t be taken seriously, and it’s pretty embarrassing that the Packers haven’t done more in this division over the time. What their future holds for this season is predicated upon the competition in their division and if those teams will finally grow up and be seriously relevant in this league. The Packers could find themselves in last place for the 2020 decade if they don’t get their act together and take advantage when they should be.

  2. therealbigben says: Jul 20, 2014 3:29 PM

    Super Bowl or bust. Suck it Vikings trolls!

  3. gforce4all says: Jul 20, 2014 3:30 PM

    The Pack are just too darn good.Lombardi #5 this year.

  4. queenlivekillers says: Jul 20, 2014 3:31 PM

    How many great quarterbacks in NFL history were kept from Super Bowls by his team’s mediocre defense? It is evidently very hard to combine the two.

  5. rodgersheisjolly says: Jul 20, 2014 3:32 PM

    Packers allowed 26 points or more in their last 10 games. The defense is soft and not very athletic. No way are they a top 10 team.

  6. calvinhobbes5000 says: Jul 20, 2014 3:34 PM

    Good placement for the Pack. The Seahawks and 49ers clearly have to be ahead of them. Denver, New England, Green Bay and New Orleans are all interchangable between 3-6.

  7. pipkinite says: Jul 20, 2014 4:07 PM

    Not a packers fan but when they’re healthy – they’re good. That’s more than anyone can about the Vikings.

  8. irishgary says: Jul 20, 2014 4:09 PM

    Here come the dumb post by the last place Vikings fans

  9. pipkinite says: Jul 20, 2014 4:10 PM

    Oh well. Missing a word one time means you didn’t proofread. Misspelling the same word multiple times indicates that you’re uneducated and lazy

  10. txbearmeat says: Jul 20, 2014 4:38 PM

    I’d have them at 6 because the Saints D was better last year. But there’s no doubt that if healthy this is a team that can contend for Lombardi #5.

    Just about the right ranking IMO.

  11. shrike3000 says: Jul 20, 2014 4:41 PM

    Absolutely ridiculous to have the Packers higher than the Saints. The Saints had a Top 5 Defense last year to go along with their prolific offense.

  12. coltsreign says: Jul 20, 2014 4:43 PM

    You guys are still riding success from 3 years ago.
    Its the media whos lost their edge.

  13. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 20, 2014 4:47 PM

    When you get to the top 5 I believe a big factor are injuries at key positions which will affect just how far a team will go. Have my fingers crossed we can finally stay healthy.

    As far as Viking posters it has been like a breath of fresh air in here. Rather than face the fall from grace by their hapless franchise like men they went into hiding like they do during the season thus not subjecting us to the delusional rantings. I have to admit I prefer the latter.

  14. simonator917 says: Jul 20, 2014 4:48 PM

    Aaron Rodgers, best player in the game today!

    BTW Not a Packers fan.

  15. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2014 4:50 PM

    The Packers defense gave up fewer points than the 2nd to the last team Bears and the last place Vikings last year. With Rodgers not missing half the season and sustaining drives this year, the defense will be better.

    It really depends how much they improve with healthy guys coming back and new additions to the defense. If they can finish in the top 10, they will be a team to be reckoned with. If not they’ll still easily win their division.

  16. cruzer1996 says: Jul 20, 2014 5:06 PM

    Can’t give much cred to a site that has the Lions #21 and Pack #5 after last year’s Thanksgiving game. The Lions are better than that, and the Pack can’t block or tackle.

  17. andrewluck12 says: Jul 20, 2014 5:07 PM

    You pundits say the same thing every year about them. Never happens. They blow. Especially Rodgers if you get my drift

  18. ariani85pftpoetsuckskol says: Jul 20, 2014 5:11 PM

    The Packers have only won 13 championships. How can they possibly compare to the greatness west of them? The Vikings invented the game of football as you know it. They have the greatest quarterback of all time Teddy Bridgwater. He is head and shoulder above Aaron Rodgers. Aaron hasn’t slept all winter wondering if he can ever win another game against the greatest team in all of organized sports world wide. I’m sure he has lost track of all the fan letters he’s sent to Touchdown Teddy. Unfortunately Teddy hasn’t responded. The GOAT under center for Minnesota simply can’t be bothered. Bask in the greatness that is Viking football and thank God you’re alive to witness history in the making.

  19. gearsofwarking1985 says: Jul 20, 2014 5:27 PM

    What is up will all of the Vikings fans? You guys realize you have never won a super bowl, right? So… yea… Quit talking until your team wins one. You came close a few years ago with a former Packer QB

  20. thevikesarebest says: Jul 20, 2014 5:32 PM

    1st round exit…if they even make it.

  21. ariani85pftpoetsuckskol says: Jul 20, 2014 5:52 PM

    That was sarcasm by the way……

  22. stellarperformance says: Jul 20, 2014 6:00 PM

    If the Packers can keep their best players on the field and out of the whirlpool, they can win it all. The teams ahead of them are not better by leaps and bounds, and the Packers are certainly better than last year……on both sides of the ball.

  23. omeimontis says: Jul 20, 2014 6:01 PM

    The year after winning the Super Bowl, they were rolling along, then the bottom fell off and the defense went south. They haven’t been the same since.

  24. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2014 6:10 PM

    It’s funny to see a Lions fan use one Thanksgiving game as an example while ignoring how horrible the team was the rest of the year. And ignoring not having the best QB in the league at the help while also having to play the Lions on the road on only 4 days rest.

    The Lions are a fraud. Just like always.

  25. trumb1mj says: Jul 20, 2014 6:24 PM

    Top 5 QB? Sure. Top 5 team? No way in hell. The entire defense is terrible (including Caper’s scheme) and the OL is atrocious… This is the year they finally fall back in the division.

  26. tomebs says: Jul 20, 2014 6:26 PM

    Good placement. They lost Rodgers for half the season yet still won their division. Even decimated by injuries during the playoff game (4 defensive starters), the game was lost on a last minute field goal.

    I don’t put a lot of weight on the position. Any team in the top 10 could put it together in one year and win it all. Look at the last 5 Super Bowl winners.

  27. tokyofilthblaster says: Jul 20, 2014 7:01 PM

    Only 22 spots in front of the hapless and tasteless Vikings???

    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!

  28. gayforbrady says: Jul 20, 2014 7:07 PM

    Green Bay is going to have a tough time against the Vikings unless they hire special teams coaches as hard core as the Vikings.

  29. therealtrenches says: Jul 20, 2014 7:29 PM

    The only thing funnier than all the Viking bashing in this thread are the Saints fans over in that thread, crying over the fact that the the Pack were ranked ahead of them.

    Good LORD I wish the season would start.

  30. mral2014 says: Jul 20, 2014 7:34 PM

    Da Bears will win the division this year!!

  31. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2014 7:50 PM

    The Bears have no chance of winning the division unless the trade back for McCown and replace every starter on that horrible and old defense.

  32. vermontaigne says: Jul 20, 2014 7:55 PM

    Last year’s training camp was distracted by ridiculous backup QB experimentation and the kicking derby. Then Rodgers got hurt.

    The Packers have a smaller number of ifs going into this season, at center, ILB and TE, and to some extent in special teams and D line. Obviously, they felt comfortable enough with Tretter to let Dietrich-Smith go. They should have good depth generally at the O line, especially if Bulaga’s 100%. There’s a 90% chance they’re much improved at safety, and they have enough bodies at ILB that they’re likely to find a couple players they’re comfortable with.

    My feeling is that moving Raji back inside and giving him a short contract leash is going to pay dividends. Boykin’s not a big step down from Jones, and they added depth at receiver in a receiver-rich draft. The TE battle encapsulates the camp situation, where they will have more competition for more slots than any time in my memory, with plausible candidates. That’s a good thing in the salary cap era.

    There are going to be folks who say, they paid too much for Rodgers, but in a year or two, with QB salary inflation, they’re going to say, geez, they got a deal.

  33. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2014 8:18 PM

    The Packers didn’t pay too much for Rodgers
    His average cap hit is 18.5 million. That’s only 500k more than garbage QB Jay Cutler.

  34. osiris33 says: Jul 20, 2014 9:26 PM

    The Packers are soft and slow. They will find out just how far behind the Seahawks they are on opening night.

  35. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2014 9:29 PM

    Seahawks are a team that relies on their fake architected crowd noise and scab refs to win big games.

  36. rickscherger says: Jul 20, 2014 9:43 PM

    This team is so overrated.

  37. tokyofilthblaster says: Jul 20, 2014 10:03 PM

    Football is fun when you contend every year.

    Thanks Ted!

  38. vincelombardisghost says: Jul 20, 2014 10:04 PM

    Speculation based on last year’s team results while factoring in the players that haven’t even played yet gives everyone something to do in the off season without getting anyone anywhere.

  39. sonofad says: Jul 20, 2014 10:18 PM

    Congratulations fellow Packer fans! The perennial national respect for our team is well deserved, and I’m proud of the grace you all consistently display as an example for those less fortunate (in MN).

  40. bigdadyiz1 says: Jul 20, 2014 10:59 PM

    If we can stay away from injuries they will be a top 5 team all season long!

  41. trapshoot says: Jul 20, 2014 11:28 PM

    Sound reasonable to me, IF the changes to their defense actually work out.

  42. badguy711 says: Jul 21, 2014 1:08 AM

    Joke. Total joke that Denver is rated ahead of GB. Cupcake division, cupcake conference and the media acts like they are an elite team because of Peyton Manning. News flash: Manning does actually lose games. The Pack would beat Denver head to head 9 times out of 10 easy.

  43. txpackfan77 says: Jul 21, 2014 1:13 AM

    Again, it was proven in the last Super Bowl that defense wins championships. In the 1996-97 season, Green Bay’s defense anchored a championship team. During their 2010-11 playoff run to the Super Bowl championship, after a season of injuries, the defense stepped up. Rodgers is arguably the best quarterback in the league, and the Packers offense is certainly in the top-five in the league. It comes down to the defense. The last few years, the defense has been a liability, and not a strength.

  44. shepwp1 says: Jul 21, 2014 6:46 AM

    Packer fan here. Because of all the improvements made, I think the NFC North will be a fun division to watch. That being said, I don’t think ANY team in the North can match Seattle, San Fran or Denver. I wished I believed otherwise.

  45. johnclaytonsponytail says: Jul 21, 2014 7:39 AM

    Saints have a better Defense and a true Elite Qb also. That right there shows the flaw in this bias ranking.

  46. chris1cat says: Jul 21, 2014 7:56 AM

    I love these Packer fans “SB or bust” then bust then bust bust bust bust bust bust bust bust PLEASE!

    Most OVER RATED TEAM by far in the NFL!

  47. bcmcknight77 says: Jul 21, 2014 8:47 AM

    You’re completely out of your mind. They won’t even make the playoffs.

  48. jjgautreaux says: Jul 21, 2014 9:09 AM

    Right. let’s just wait tilthe end of the yearso we can hear all the excuses about injuries again. 5 is a bit high but we shall see.

  49. revelation123 says: Jul 21, 2014 9:43 AM

    Green Bay is more dangerous than many believe if they can stay healthy. In the playoffs they lost to SF by 3 points without 2 starting corners, their top 3 OLBs, their starting TE, Their starting DE, and their starting LT.

    Adding Peppers and Clinton Dix to that group will only make them more dangerous. This team, if healthy, is a serious contender for another Lombardi.

  50. purpleguy says: Jul 21, 2014 10:37 AM

    In all honesty, and as difficult as it is to say, the Pack will always be a contender as long as they’ve got Rodgers, who is the best QB in the league. Not sure the defense is championship caliber, but this team will make the playoffs no problem.

  51. ctlee7 says: Jul 21, 2014 11:14 AM

    Generalities is great for politicians – no one knows how GB’s defense is going to improve this year – saying they are soft is last year’s news.

    GB lost their quarterback for 1/3 of the season and still won the division (and that was with no real backup in place). The Bears have a good team as well (watch 2013 replay – they have real talent on offense). It will be very competitive this year. Detroit may improve as well – but that leaves the lonely old Vikes with quite a bit of ground to cover in a division that may be very competitive. Finally, the way football is these days is that a season can be on the foot of a kicker – so unless you get your butt kicked – it is a parody.

  52. kimbo71006 says: Jul 21, 2014 12:12 PM

    Absolutely ridiculous to have the Packers higher than the Saints. The Saints had a Top 5 Defense last year to go along with their prolific offense.
    ———————————
    Amen! The Saints had the #2 Offense and #4 defense out of all 32 teams last year.

    Not a single-solitary team ahead of them can say they had both offense/defense in the Top #5.

    Stats don’t lie people. The Saints were superior, on both sides of the ball, to every single team ahead of them on the preseason rankings. And that’s fact, not fiction.

    That’s okay…we know who “we are”.

  53. stellarperformance says: Jul 21, 2014 12:13 PM

    I find it humorous that the same people saying the Packers wouldn’t be anything without Rodgers are the same people that used to say he was a “system” QB and his success was due to the Packers “system,” and that anyone could fill that role.

    Well? Which is it? Which one helps you sleep at night? Because the Packers are going to roll this year no matter what.

  54. kimbo71006 says: Jul 21, 2014 12:14 PM

    Again, it was proven in the last Super Bowl that defense wins championships. In the 1996-97 season, Green Bay’s defense anchored a championship team. During their 2010-11 playoff run to the Super Bowl championship, after a season of injuries, the defense stepped up. Rodgers is arguably the best quarterback in the league, and the Packers offense is certainly in the top-five in the league. It comes down to the defense. The last few years, the defense has been a liability, and not a strength.

    ———————————————–
    Uh, no – the Packers offense was NOT IN THE TOP #5 last year, look again.

    And Rodgers is NOT the best QB in the league – stats don’t lie.

  55. crownofthehelmet says: Jul 21, 2014 1:13 PM

    5? Isn’t this the same team that won 8 games of the 17 they played last year?

  56. stellarperformance says: Jul 21, 2014 2:21 PM

    Figuratively, they won nine games. The sixteen point come-from-behind tie against Minnesota was as good as a win. It was the difference-maker because Chicago held all the tie-breakers.

    The best part is…..they salvaged a division win with that tie, and they did it with a 4th string street agent at QB. Nice!

  57. chasedbyturtles says: Jul 21, 2014 10:16 PM

    I can agree with this. If you take Rodgers off the team they are probably the worst team in the NFL though. I’m mean Detroit Lions 0-16 bad. Like that one girl your cousin dates who has 2 lazy eyes and a hairy tongue. She smells of sour milk and baby powder. She wears clothes that it looks like she was poured into and no one said ‘when’. You know what kind of bad I mean.

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