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James Brown says Washington should “do the right thing and change the name”

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CBS has given its announcers the green light to apply the red light to the use of the Washington team name.  It sounds like NFL Today and Thursday Night Football host James Brown could be taking Les Moonves up on his offer.

“I firmly believe that this is a people issue,” Brown said at a CBS News symposium, via Scott Allen of the Washington Post.  “If, in fact — to me, this is my opinion only, not representing CBS Sports, or News — if the name is offensive to a group of people, then do the right thing and change the name. It’s as simple as that.”

Brown doesn’t buy one of the strongest arguments for keeping the name:  That the name has been in place for more than 80 years.

“Yeah, well, the civil rights issue was one where ‘that’s just the way it was’ for a long period of time, right?  So that holds no basis and substance to me. Do the right thing,” Brown said.

“You know, a number of years ago, when I was a kid, there was a restaurant chain called Sambo’s, which, as I understand was the last name of two guys who owned the restaurant chain.  But it was offensive to black people, so they changed the name, except for the one franchise in California I believe it was.  Well, so, if in fact it’s offensive to Native Americans — and there doesn’t have to be unanimity on this, and don’t just have a intractable attitude saying, ‘I’m not going to change’ — that’s wrong as far as I’m concerned.  I’ll get in trouble with that, but I stand on principle.”

Brown’s principle will be tested at least once this season, when Washington hosts the Giants on Thursday, September 25.  There’s also a 50-percent chance that the Philly-Washington game on Saturday, December 20 will be played in prime time, with Brown serving as the studio host.

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189 Responses to “James Brown says Washington should “do the right thing and change the name””
  1. lsuzilla says: Jul 25, 2014 11:46 AM

    And his opinion matters why?

  2. fwippel says: Jul 25, 2014 11:47 AM

    Well, James, it’s like this. You want to change the name? Purchase the team and change it yourself. Otherwise, realize that you have no say in the matter, and move on.

  3. calicowboysfan86 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:49 AM

    Is this topic every public figure’s chance to get politically correct brownie points?

  4. bitw44 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:49 AM

    James Brown ranks last in my “NFL pregame show hosts preseason power rankings”

  5. kd75 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:50 AM

    James Brown says: “I don’t know karate. But a Know Crazy! Uh! Gotta touch myself. Get back. Take it to the bridge Maceo.”

  6. azarkhan says: Jul 25, 2014 11:50 AM

    Well, if James Brown says so… Wait, I thought you meant the Godfather, not some two-bit media personality. Never mind.

  7. vicnocal says: Jul 25, 2014 11:50 AM

    Vicnocal says they shouldn’t.

  8. gargamelsmentor says: Jul 25, 2014 11:50 AM

    Ohhhhh, ooooo-kay JB, since YOU say so.

  9. joeflaccoallday says: Jul 25, 2014 11:50 AM

    Amen my brother.

  10. tizomps says: Jul 25, 2014 11:51 AM

    Let’s stop comparing this to civil rights. The name, “Redskins” isn’t holding anyone back from employment, where they eat, go to school, go to the bathroom, etc.

    So James, your argument holds no basis and substance.

  11. hawkwind8 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:52 AM

    He looks like he’s about two pork chops away from a coronary…..

  12. scoops1 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:53 AM

    In the words of The Rock….

    it Doesn’t mattttter what you Think!!!!

  13. vicnocal says: Jul 25, 2014 11:53 AM

    What if there was a team called the Washington Redheads, and their mascot was a ginger. Alfred E Newman or somebody. Would anyone care? No. Why not? What’s the difference between skin and hair? Redskin is not OK but Redhead is? “Red hair” isn’t even really red either, it’s more like orangey.

  14. httr123 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:53 AM

    REDSKINS

  15. alexb1234 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:53 AM

    He’s right they should just change the name…

    All this negative attention is bad for business, even if you think they shouldn’t, you have to understand the fight just isn’t worth it anymore…

  16. eaglesnoles05 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:54 AM

    Haayyyy!!!!!!

  17. CwickB says: Jul 25, 2014 11:54 AM

    I mean Giants and Vikings is “offensive” to groups of people too. Wonder if James thinks those should be changed as well!?!

  18. grogansheroes says: Jul 25, 2014 11:54 AM

    So this whole name thing. Someone is offended by everything. Once the REDSKINS are sufficiently pressured into changing their name what is next? Personally, I love animals, and am offended by names like the Bears, or Lions, or Panthers. I am also offended by the Fighting Irish of ND. Does this mean all Irish like to fight? I have a friend that loves birds, and he is offended by the Eagles, and Cardinals. What comes next? There is nothing that is written somewhere that doesn’t offend someone somewhere! So maybe they should change their name to the ‘Skins? I wonder who will be offended then?

  19. jimmysee says: Jul 25, 2014 11:55 AM

    Another country heard from.

    But the countries are adding up.

  20. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jul 25, 2014 11:56 AM

    Brown’s opinion is just that. One man’s opinion and he is not even native American. There are actually Cherokee Indians who don’t favor a name change. Don’t expect to read any of that here.

    Anyway JB needs to change his name and stop using the name of the one and only Godfather of soul.

  21. dalfanforever says: Jul 25, 2014 11:56 AM

    Wow. Has everyone gone ultra-PC these days??

  22. qdog112 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:56 AM

    There ya go RW, red meat. Go get’em!

  23. Waxxx4321 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:56 AM

    People should do the right thing and mind their own business because theirs greater things to be concerned about. Its always somebody not native American trying to stir this pot because they dont have their own priorities straight. If most Native American tribes dont see it as an issue then this is nothing but political propaganda trying to brainwash everyone else.

  24. msc4realeagles says: Jul 25, 2014 11:58 AM

    Awww man. I was about to break out into “I FEEL GOOD”. Then I saw the pic of the “other” and extremely more lame James Brown.

  25. n2thaizzo says: Jul 25, 2014 11:58 AM

    Are you haters gonna get mad EVERY time someone expresses an opinion on this matter, that doesn’t reflect yours?

  26. reesesteel23 says: Jul 25, 2014 11:59 AM

    Nobody said his opinion matters. Just like yours doesn’t. His opinion just happens to have an article written about it.

  27. reesesteel23 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:01 PM

    Awww yes. Merica’. When a man gives his opinion and you dont like it, insult him.

  28. tmkelley1 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:01 PM

    I thought this guy died a few years ago. I mean, he was a fabulous entertainer and all, especially “I Feel Good,” but what’s that got to do with football?

  29. bharr170 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:03 PM

    Is it really necessary to hear everyone who is in the public eye when it comes to football’s opinion on the matter?

  30. joetoronto says: Jul 25, 2014 12:04 PM

    This is how the bullies talk, “do the right thing” means their opinion is the right one and everyone else is wrong.

  31. eaglesnoles05 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:04 PM

    Nevermind the small population of native americans that are offended, what about the countless number of offended people that have skin? (guy without skin in the back of the room is fine with it…)

  32. lygahoo says: Jul 25, 2014 12:07 PM

    Have you notice that people that have little or no education are the ones offended when educated folks start making sense! The name is offensive and demeaning to Native Americans….so change the NAME. Don’t hate on James Brown because you wish you had his job. Quick spell this word…..de@#$atory!

    Told you they are STUPID!

  33. REDSKINSFOREVER says: Jul 25, 2014 12:07 PM

    No way!!! A liberal media outlet against the use of the Redskins name. When did this happen…..wait I isn’t it the liberal media that fabricated this “racist” name argument anyway.

    As far as JB goes, he seems nice but his opinion has no more weight then mine. Yet his comments get published and mine get deleted. Why is that?

    Stand strong Snyder!!!! Never change!!!!

  34. 34defense2014 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:07 PM

    Well said qdog112 lol lol sign Petition to change the name! It’s offensive!

  35. isaidjoemontegna says: Jul 25, 2014 12:09 PM

    I only clicked on this cause I thought PFT might have found a way to have the hardest working man is show business, James Brown, weigh in on the Redskins name issue, from the grave.

  36. sfitz0076 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:12 PM

    You know I was on the fence about this issue, but now becasue James Brown said the name should be changed, I’m with him.

  37. dickshotdogs says: Jul 25, 2014 12:12 PM

    I can’t stand this guy. “Thank you, so very much.”

  38. dspyank2k11 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:13 PM

    any Native Americans here? actual Native Americans that are pushing to change the name? they are the ones that count. how do THEY feel?

    I dont care what James Brown says or any of the other meat heads on the NFL Today.

  39. archersofmtdoom says: Jul 25, 2014 12:14 PM

    Welllll heck, what about dang ol Titans or Packers or Falcons. I tell you hwat. Those is offense too. Uh-huh yup.
    I like to make comparisons to other team names & say they could be offensive too because I’m too dimwitted to come up with a legitimate reason as to why I want this name to stay….

  40. tangovader says: Jul 25, 2014 12:14 PM

    It’s a stupid name. I don’t care if Native Americans unanimously think it’s okay. We should expect better of ourselves. Just because Native Americans aren’t a VOCAL minority, doesn’t mean they should be dismissed and mocked in the name of tradition because we’re ‘used to’ saying the name. This isn’t about being PC. It’s about treating people’s heritage with respect.

  41. ravenswhat says: Jul 25, 2014 12:15 PM

    He’s saying what he thinks he has to say in front of a camera. All of these public figures are saying politically correct thing out of their own interest, not because they really care!! Are any of these guys donating money to Indian reservations? Thought so.

  42. fballguy says: Jul 25, 2014 12:16 PM

    Never change the name. Next story please.

  43. dutchkindelberger says: Jul 25, 2014 12:17 PM

    So,

    Based upon what James Brown is saying, then if a group of people are offended by changing the name, then it should stay the same.

    Right?

  44. bonnovi says: Jul 25, 2014 12:18 PM

    Why do 100+ people always feel compelled to comment on Washington Redskins name change (or lack thereof) stories?

  45. duncanthecat says: Jul 25, 2014 12:18 PM

    Well let’s keep moving up the totem pole.

    How does Vin Scully feel?

  46. thegreatgabbert says: Jul 25, 2014 12:21 PM

    James exact words were,

    “Do the right thing… Oh yeah Momma… do it,
    do it!
    Get down now, get down now, and do that RIGHT THAAANG!!!… “.

  47. fissels says: Jul 25, 2014 12:21 PM

    I like JB. He , by all accounts is a great human being. His opinion means a lot to me. I still think people that are offended have been deluded into thinking the name is derogatory. It is a name that honors Redskins.

  48. vikesr4reel says: Jul 25, 2014 12:21 PM

    If the Saints end up having to change their name they could be the New Orleans Brown Bags!!
    Lol
    Skol

  49. abninf says: Jul 25, 2014 12:21 PM

    Red Mesa High Redskins. Enough said.

  50. archersofmtdoom says: Jul 25, 2014 12:22 PM

    *Paranoia* – when any article on the internet asserts a position you disagree with, you label it as liberal media bias.

  51. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:23 PM

    The fact that most of you can only respond to his statement with insults shows how thin the ground you’re standing on is. You don’t have legitimate arguments against changing the name so you insult him like you’re some child on a schoolyard.

  52. thegreatgabbert says: Jul 25, 2014 12:24 PM

    James appointed himself Godfather of NFL Soul issues.

  53. TheWizard says: Jul 25, 2014 12:25 PM

    The PC bullies are rollin’, baby……

  54. kevjones75 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:26 PM

    I think James Brown should change his name. There is only room for one Godfather of Soul.

  55. mburkett1980 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:26 PM

    I wish they’d change the name just so I can stop having to hear about them not changing the name.

  56. xbam1 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:26 PM

    go JB go JB its your birthday!

    lsuzilla says:
    Jul 25, 2014 11:46 AM
    And his opinion matters why?

    hey Isuzilla..it’s a story because he works for company that broadcasts NFL games…duhh!

  57. mortimeryoung says: Jul 25, 2014 12:27 PM

    “What about the dogs?”

  58. clemenza58 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:27 PM

    “Why do 100+ people always feel compelled to comment on Washington Redskins name change (or lack thereof) stories?”

    Because there are 100+ stories posted on this topic almost daily. If your neighbor’s uncle thinks that the Redskins need to change their name, chances are the story will show up here for people to comment on.

  59. rosloe62 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:28 PM

    Washington should keep their name, colors, etc., and change their mascot to a redskin potato. That way you are still the Redskins. Put Mr. Potato head on your helmet.

  60. micknangold says: Jul 25, 2014 12:29 PM

    Have you notice that people that have little or no education are the ones offended when educated folks start making sense! The name is offensive and demeaning to Native Americans….so change the NAME. Don’t hate on James Brown because you wish you had his job. Quick spell this word…..de@#$atory!

    Told you they are STUPID!

    Attacking ad hominem with more ad hominem…

  61. audient says: Jul 25, 2014 12:29 PM

    Public opinion will reach critical mass on this as more and more people speak out.

  62. macdaddyspeed says: Jul 25, 2014 12:30 PM

    It’s inevitable. The name will change. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but you need to get on the right side of history and change the name. All Snyder is doing is making for a messy transition for when he finally does capitulate.

  63. grayone77 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:31 PM

    Is anyone else as sick of this topic as I am?

  64. skinsfan1987 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:31 PM

    To see the vast majority of people so adamently against changing the name really shocks me.

    You guys realize that native americans where scalped/murdered and the last thing they heard was the word “red skin”

    Theres plenty of articles that show that the term “Red Skin” was used as a slur towards natives.

    It clearly offends a group of American Citizens (even if its not all of that Native Americas),

    It should be changed and its a no brainer. Im also a life long skins fan.

  65. tennesseeoilers says: Jul 25, 2014 12:31 PM

    I’ve been following RGIII’s career closely since he was at Baylor. Have you noticed how he refuses to state his position on this debate? His silence speaks VOLUMES … Brace yourselves, Redskins fan.

  66. dickshotdogs says: Jul 25, 2014 12:31 PM

    Hail To The Redskins!

    Patriots fan

  67. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 25, 2014 12:31 PM

    Let’s feed him the terrible arguments and see if he agrees they are terrible. No, don’t use the accurate real arguments.

  68. numba1wiscosportsfan says: Jul 25, 2014 12:32 PM

    Whhhaaaawww!!! I feeel good, da nnanananana, I knew that I would y’all

  69. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 25, 2014 12:34 PM

    dukeearl, if you were really Native American, wouldn’t you know that you aren’t Indian?

  70. ravensterpsarmystrong says: Jul 25, 2014 12:37 PM

    We live in country with freedom of speech, choices, and capitalism. Don’t like something, vote with your feet and spend your money elsewhere. That gets people’s attention. Talk is cheap IMHO.

  71. kidsamoa260 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:40 PM

    I loved Sambos late 70’s in Seattle. Best pancakes and the kids menu turned into a tiger mask. Since cbs covers the afc, I won’t be seeing James and his hairpiece.

  72. cash804 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:40 PM

    I’m offended that Ray Rice punched a woman in the face and only received a 2 game suspension.

  73. kaakwha says: Jul 25, 2014 12:40 PM

    what a bunch of lowbrow slack jaws on this site. The name should be changed because it IS RACIST. Most of these comments are self-serving bullcrap. Disagree all you want. It is RACIST!

  74. orthomarine says: Jul 25, 2014 12:41 PM

    Redskins… Don’t change it

    Dolphin Nation

  75. ace8842 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:41 PM

    How come PFT doesn’t write an article for every NFL person that says the Redskins should NOT change the name?

  76. jaxbeachjagfan says: Jul 25, 2014 12:44 PM

    If the term Redskin WAS referencing a stupid potato, then sure, there would be no problem.

    BUT IT’S NOT. It’s referencing a race of people.

    Have some empathy fer crissakes.

  77. yeogib says: Jul 25, 2014 12:45 PM

    Again, this is a non issue. The continuing reporting of this “story” just serves ulterior motives. The majority of people who are offended are just on the bandwagon.

  78. kingokra says: Jul 25, 2014 12:46 PM

    I agree with the Godfather of Soul.

  79. brokebackbrees says: Jul 25, 2014 12:47 PM

    Change it whiteskins .. Problem solved.

  80. hakunamangata says: Jul 25, 2014 12:48 PM

    As the dude would say “well that’s just like, your opinion man”

  81. enkay85 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:52 PM

    If “Redskin” is racist than so is “Oklahoma”. I wonder if people would be in an uproar if they were called the “Washington Oklahoma”, which is choctaw for “red people”.

  82. kenstabler says: Jul 25, 2014 12:53 PM

    The little mean midget owner has vowed “We will never change the name of the team,” Snyder told USA TODAY Sports this week. “As a lifelong Redskins fan, and I think that the Redskins fans understand the great tradition and what it’s all about and what it means, so we feel pretty fortunate to be just working on next season.”

    The NFL will have to pay a pretty penny in damages if they force the Redskins to change the name.

    The far left scum wingers will not win either.

    I hope Snyder keeps his word, for once. If he does, he should run for president. A guy who keeps his word. Very uncommon in this day and age.

  83. breadslicer says: Jul 25, 2014 12:53 PM

    James Brown is right and good for CBS.

  84. jrmalo23 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:54 PM

    Thats fine, I’ll just wait for Bob Costas’ opinion…

  85. purplereign52 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:54 PM

    What makes that the right thing?

  86. usedjock says: Jul 25, 2014 12:54 PM

    grogansheroes says: Jul 25, 2014 11:54 AM

    So this whole name thing. Someone is offended by everything. Once the REDSKINS are sufficiently pressured into changing their name what is next?

    If I was to bet on it the Chiefs and the Cleveland Indians will be next on the clock. What makes me shake my head is how often people are offended these days. Will anyone’s life truly be any better if the name of a football team is changed?

  87. notthetroll says: Jul 25, 2014 12:56 PM

    When I suggested that PFT go looking for more obscure people to complain about the Redskins name in a previous post, I already knew they were.

    He isn’t even the most famous James Brown.

  88. mcconne77 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:57 PM

    The PC crowd won’t stop at Redskins. They have problems with words like blackboard, brown bag, manuscript, fireman, chief executive officer. Are these words also racist? C’mon. We’ve got to stop this insanity. Don’t let these PC weirdo’s win.

  89. glac1 says: Jul 25, 2014 12:58 PM

    If the league forces Washington to change their name I hope they will clean their own act up and not allow men who are murderers, dog killers, sex abusers and drug users to play the game.

  90. Andre's Johnson says: Jul 25, 2014 1:00 PM

    Whatever.

  91. thelastpieceofcheese says: Jul 25, 2014 1:01 PM

    For a moment I thought this was James Brown, the late singer and father of rap.

    I’m sure if we channel him he would also want the Redskins name changed.

  92. Marshawn Lunch says: Jul 25, 2014 1:02 PM

    The ignorance shown in 80% of these comments is staggering. The comments that say the pro-name-change group are a bunch of bullies are especially ignorant. You think they are “bullies” because they want the team to change the name. But you support the term “Redskin”?

    If you can’t understand why that is ignorant than our educational system has failed you.

  93. melikefootball says: Jul 25, 2014 1:02 PM

    What James Brown should be coming out against something that really offends a lot of people, how the NFL handled the Ray Rice trouble.

  94. 202folife says: Jul 25, 2014 1:02 PM

    Love JB even more after his statement/opinion on this. Just do the right thing and change the name.

  95. FlashPatterson says: Jul 25, 2014 1:03 PM

    If I was an announcer I would refer to the team as the R-words until they changed it.

  96. bcajun says: Jul 25, 2014 1:03 PM

    Why can liberals understand. NO MEANS NO end of discussion

  97. ralphwilsonisrich says: Jul 25, 2014 1:06 PM

    Go and dye your hair jet black JB!

  98. kcflake says: Jul 25, 2014 1:08 PM

    Who Cares??? Grow up. All these folks falling all over themselves to be “sensitive” and PC. A Lot of Immature folks calling for a name change.

  99. sruel3216 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:08 PM

    I am a pirate and I am offended by the name Raiders.

    Just kidding….everyone wants to be a Raider!

  100. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 25, 2014 1:08 PM

    It’s not referencing a group of people. It is referencing the paint that was used on their skin when they went to war. I side with the Native Americans, like those at Red Mesa High School, 90% Native American population, recently confirmed, home of the Redskins.

  101. footballfan14 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:11 PM

    I continue to ask why white and black people are JUST NOW defending the Indians and standing up for them? Where was this 20 or 30 years ago? How come more people get on the bandwagon for it? I wish I were famous. I have a feeling people are getting paid off to come out in support of a name change.

    The name is not intended to be used as racist. If it were then I doubt Indians would have been the ones supporting and behind it when it was first established.

  102. pftthebest says: Jul 25, 2014 1:13 PM

    fwippel says: Jul 25, 2014 11:47 AM

    Well, James, it’s like this. You want to change the name? Purchase the team and change it yourself. Otherwise, realize that you have no say in the matter, and move on.

    ——-

    Well, Abe, it’s like this. You want to end slavery? Purchase all the slaves and free them yourself. Otherwise, realize that you have no say in the matter, and move on.

  103. realtimeeyes says: Jul 25, 2014 1:19 PM

    NFL Week Three Match-up in 2020:

    The City of Dallas Football Persons vs The City if Miami Football Persons

  104. bcajun says: Jul 25, 2014 1:20 PM

    The US is being overtaken by globalists and corperations…lets put a stop to this bull…Let freedom reign

  105. mutohasaposse says: Jul 25, 2014 1:21 PM

    Hoping he feels the same way about the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund.

    I’ve heard Negro and Colored People used in more derogatory ways than Redskin.

  106. ydousuk says: Jul 25, 2014 1:23 PM

    And his opinion matters why?
    ————————————-

    Right back at ya buddy…..

  107. ydousuk says: Jul 25, 2014 1:24 PM

    Tick, Tock
    Tick, Tock

  108. tjacks7 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:24 PM

    Now, if only someone would get his opinion on Johnny Manziel, I could sleep at night.

  109. dannersthemanners says: Jul 25, 2014 1:26 PM

    Disagree or not with his opinion he at least had a decent basis for it, which to me is rare in media these days.

  110. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 25, 2014 1:26 PM

    Who is the bully. The one’s who listen to the Native Americans, who, overwhelmingly agree to keeping the name, or those who want to impose their random and unfounded opinion on them that they should be offended.

  111. ajgreenhof says: Jul 25, 2014 1:28 PM

    Continuing to do something over and over again blindly because its tradition is illogical.

  112. eagles512 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:29 PM

    What a terrible argument he made.

  113. darealsmiley4284 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:29 PM

    When are you guys going to post articles about people who SUPPORT the name REDSKINS? Oh wait, that doesn’t fit your slanted agenda and your cute little crusade.

  114. lightningbuggs says: Jul 25, 2014 1:29 PM

    JB- The same guy who when giving the starting lineups for a Cowboys- REDSKINS game in the early 90s said, “Smith and Highsmith in the backfield. No relation.”

    So, I’m gonna pass on his opinion.

  115. SilentMajority says: Jul 25, 2014 1:30 PM

    Nothing shows how much we admire the Indian culture like the term “Redskins”, that and putting stereotypical pictures of Indians on the side of our helmets, T-shirts, baseball hats, and other paraphernalia.

  116. jimmysee says: Jul 25, 2014 1:31 PM

    I hope the hard core supporters of that racist name here on pft are not too personally invested in it — because it is going to change.

    In the end, Snyder will do the right thing.

    He may come to it kicking and screaming; but he will do it.

    History tells us that.

    There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.

    We’ve just seen it in this country with marriage equality.

    There’s going to be a Palestinean nation.

    Times change.

    Can’t stop it.

    No matter how unsettling it is.

  117. ashleyschafferbmw says: Jul 25, 2014 1:32 PM

    This guy just made complete and total sense on the matter, and every comment is negative and against him. If you in favor the name change, at what point do you allow facts or common sense to factor into your decision on the matter?

  118. staaaafford says: Jul 25, 2014 1:32 PM

    Excuse my possible ignorrance but is there even a push by the Indian community to change the name? Are American Indians offended by it??

  119. ashleyschafferbmw says: Jul 25, 2014 1:33 PM

    if you’re not in favor of the name change*

  120. jimnsota says: Jul 25, 2014 1:37 PM

    James Brown should change his name out of respect of the real James Brown the God Father of sole.

  121. packerfansarefatdrunkandstupid says: Jul 25, 2014 1:40 PM

    The name will change.

  122. joejgibbs says: Jul 25, 2014 1:43 PM

    To anyone wondering why JB is relevant to this — I’m guessing it’s because he’s from DC.
    (DeMatha grad)

  123. censorshipstinks says: Jul 25, 2014 1:45 PM

    The school is located on the Navajo Reservation and is a public school. We have nearly 100% Navajo students.
    Welcome to the 2013-2014 school year. I am honored to be at Red Mesa High School as their Principal. Red Mesa High School has a long tradition of students who have achieved in academics, and athletes who have excelled on the field. I want to build on that tradition. Redskin Pride will be promoted in all programs and activities this year. We will call it “Pursuing Excellence with honor”.

  124. 34defense2014 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:46 PM

    Yes it absolutely can be compared to Civil rights!! Native Americans where not even allowed any rights!! They where all shipped of to Reservations that had sand with no nutrients so they could grow crops for food!! There was no Buffalo to hunt for food and shelter!! And if they chose to refuse? Guess what? They where killed!! Just like when the Union promised Geronimo that he would live on a fertile, water supplied, green beautiful pastures! Where did he go? Prison!! For the rest of his life!! Now I could name all the prisons and States! But why bother? CANGE THE NAME!!!

  125. ydousuk says: Jul 25, 2014 1:47 PM

    The US is being overtaken by globalists and corperations…lets put a stop to this bull…Let freedom reign
    ——————————–

    Ya it’s the “globalists and corporations,”…take off the tin foil hat Sir.

  126. pftcensor1 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:50 PM

    A group of people find the name “Chiefs” offensive so according to Brown’s logic that name should be changed too.

  127. rcali says: Jul 25, 2014 1:52 PM

    Are there any nouns left in the English language that don’t offend at least one person?

  128. tangovader says: Jul 25, 2014 1:57 PM

    <<>>

    Why wasn’t there a ‘I have a dream’ speech in 1920? Why no Women’s sufferage movement in 1640? Why didn’t America fight the Revolutionary War the first day Britain imposed taxes???

    Just because the groundswell of opposition didn’t start the first day the franchise adopted the name doesn’t invalidate present day opposition. Sometimes it takes time for public sentiment to catch up to reality. You can point to dozens of movements throughout history that took time to develop.

    And saying ‘It wasn’t meant to be a slur’ doesn’t cover the smell.

  129. august589 says: Jul 25, 2014 1:57 PM

    “Well, so, if in fact it’s offensive to Native Americans…”

    But it’s NOT offensive to most Native Americans. Survey after survey has shown that Native Americans DON’T CARE what the Washington NFL team calls itself. Just the Oneida Tribe is making a stink about the issue. The other tribes DON’T CARE. My Cherokee wife doesn’t care. Many Natives are Redskins fans BECAUSE of the name. This is a media-driven issue and the media needs to stop driving.

  130. thefiesty1 says: Jul 25, 2014 2:03 PM

    So, if they are offended by a word, they need to develop thicker skin and move on to something that really matters. Politically correctness be damned.

  131. 34defense2014 says: Jul 25, 2014 2:08 PM

    General Crook said to me, “Why did you leave the reservation?” I said: “You told me that I might live in the reservation the same as white people lived. One year I raised a crop of corn, and gathered and stored it, and the next year I put in a crop of oats, and when the crop was almost ready to harvest, you told your soldiers to put me in prison, and if I resisted to kill me. If I had been let alone l would now have been in good circumstances, but instead of that you and the Mexicans are hunting me with soldiers”. Geronimo .. ENOUGH SAID!! Change the name!!!!

  132. natelan says: Jul 25, 2014 2:08 PM

    darealsmiley4284 says:
    Jul 25, 2014 1:29 PM
    When are you guys going to post articles about people who SUPPORT the name REDSKINS? Oh wait, that doesn’t fit your slanted agenda and your cute little crusade.

    —————————————

    PFT doesn’t need to grant equal time to appease your deep-seeded racism. This is Florio’s/NBC’s blog and they can do whatever they want with it.

    Don’t like it?

    Go start your own, cupcake.

  133. floreskins says: Jul 25, 2014 2:09 PM

    Brown doesn’t buy one of the strongest arguments for keeping the name: That the name has been in place for more than 80 years.
    —————————————-
    No, the strongest argument for keeping the name is that the group of people being spoken for by the PC pushers don’t agree that the name is offensive. Does Jim Brown believe the Chiefs should do the right thing and change their name? The same “offended” group called for that to be gone as well. Of course there was no legit follow up question like that posed to Mr. Brown.

  134. baronvonheil says: Jul 25, 2014 2:10 PM

    I do not understand how so many people can so vehemently defend something so obviously wrong. Look up the word Redskin in any up to date English dictionary and you will find it labelled as dated and offensive. Whether or not it is offensive isn’t even a matter of debate. If you contend that it’s not offensive you are just showing how supremely ignorant you are.

  135. sylvan9000 says: Jul 25, 2014 2:13 PM

    I have lived on or near Indian Reservations for over 35 years. Tribal members refer to themselves as Indians, rarely as Native Americans, but that is irrelevant.
    As an MD, I have asked many Indian patients about the term redskin and they unanimously agree it is offensive.
    The tribes turned down Mr. Snyder’s foundation money because they saw it as a bribe.
    Mr. Brown was asked his opinion and he gave it as a sports broadcaster.
    I invite all of you who support the name to discuss this personally with a tribal member anywhere in the country.
    When you do, I doubt you will personally call him or her redskin.

  136. pftcensor1 says: Jul 25, 2014 2:23 PM

    JB can’t bring himself to say the R-Word however he mentions the S-Word slur without couching it as “s word”. Not only is this inconsistent and offensive but it also comes off as racist.

    Should we be taking our social queues from someone without tact (at best) and potentially racist (at worst)?

  137. bluenose1965 says: Jul 25, 2014 2:26 PM

    hawkwind8 says:
    Jul 25, 2014 11:52 AM
    He looks like he’s about two pork chops away from a coronary…..
    __________________________________

    The politically correct term is bacon flavored steak.

  138. skinsrock says: Jul 25, 2014 2:29 PM

    People keep pointing to what the dictionary says, well can’t words have 2 meanings… Here let me fix it:

    2. A professional football team in the NFL loved dearly by their fans who say the name Redskins with pride & love …. not with racism or hate in their heart.

  139. tcostant says: Jul 25, 2014 2:31 PM

    The article should have noted that James Brown is from the DC area and I think he even worked doing a pregame Redskins show before he got the Fox gig. Considering all this, his works should be held in even higher regard.

  140. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 25, 2014 2:43 PM

    sylvan9000, I would no more call you stethoscope than call a Native American redskin. The term refers to the paint used on their skin for war rather than the color of their skin, which is not red, but brown. It is racists who would refer to Native Americans as redskins. I guess if you think that’s what they are, then that is your issue, not mine.

  141. elwaybradyandy says: Jul 25, 2014 2:44 PM

    Why are the Indians not wanting the Cowboys to change their name since it was Cowboys always fighting the Indians. Or how about the atheist wanting the Saints to change their name. It has to stop people. Come on.

  142. micknangold says: Jul 25, 2014 2:46 PM

    You know why “things have to change”? Not because the should, but because NOT changing is eternal. Change only needs to occur once. That, and only that, is what makes change truly inevitable.

  143. sweetnlow44 says: Jul 25, 2014 2:54 PM

    After the PC bullies get this name changed, I can only imagine that the Saints are next. The PC crowd are the ultra liberals who are way way smarter than anyone else in the world (they really are, just ask them) and they HATE Christianity. You are the absolute dumbest person in the world if you have Christian beliefs and the name Saints is clearly offensive to people who are way too smart to be Christian.

  144. longtimefanhtr says: Jul 25, 2014 2:54 PM

    Whatever you call them they will still be a bunch of losers each week.

  145. bengal4life says: Jul 25, 2014 2:54 PM

    I don’t care what anybody thinks anymore. I’m tired of “I’m offended by this and I’m offended by that,” bull crap. News flash: you’ll live. If they don’t like the words I use, they can kiss my you know what. They are just words not actions.

  146. sweetnlow44 says: Jul 25, 2014 3:01 PM

    sylvan9000 says:
    Jul 25, 2014 2:13 PM
    I have lived on or near Indian Reservations for over 35 years. Tribal members refer to themselves as Indians, rarely as Native Americans, but that is irrelevant.
    As an MD, I have asked many Indian patients about the term redskin and they unanimously agree it is offensive.
    The tribes turned down Mr. Snyder’s foundation money because they saw it as a bribe.
    Mr. Brown was asked his opinion and he gave it as a sports broadcaster.
    I invite all of you who support the name to discuss this personally with a tribal member anywhere in the country.
    When you do, I doubt you will personally call him or her redskin.
    ______________

    That’s because the term “Redskin” doesn’t apply to all Indians, numbskull. It refers to the Indian warriors that painted their faces red for war.

  147. udontknowjaq says: Jul 25, 2014 3:07 PM

    It’s not PC, its social equality demanded. If the name means Honor & Pride can’t they change the name to something else that truly means honor & pride? shoot keep the colors and all & change the name to Honor & Pride then!

  148. skins1970 says: Jul 25, 2014 3:17 PM

    If anyone wants the name changed just buy the team. Other then just accept the name isn’t going to change if you can’t accept it then that’s your problem.

  149. wayoffpiste says: Jul 25, 2014 3:21 PM

    Man, some of you people are so dense. You only feel this way because the name doesn’t impact you. Try for a second to put yourself in the soul of someone who would be offended by the name Redskins. Here you go:

    What if they named a team after lazy, Doritos-eating, video game playing, no goal-setting, no task accomplishing, living in your parents basement, thinking-sports-are-more-than-entertainment, load on society group of people?

    Wait, you are right, you probably wouldn’t care and you would find some sort of pride in that. Gross.

  150. qdog112 says: Jul 25, 2014 3:28 PM

    enkay85 says:
    Jul 25, 2014 12:52 PM
    If “Redskin” is racist than so is “Oklahoma”. I wonder if people would be in an uproar if they were called the “Washington Oklahoma”, which is choctaw for “red people”.
    ***********************
    That post proves the issue is too complex for you.

  151. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 25, 2014 3:42 PM

    pissedwayoff, that is the point. Most Native Americans are not offended by it. Although I am sure most would be offended by your equating them to what you described, or for you trying to speak for them as if they are unable to do it for themselves

  152. dynaco says: Jul 25, 2014 3:48 PM

    Hail To The Redskins!

    Others…go find another cause.

  153. voiceofreasonsays says: Jul 25, 2014 3:56 PM

    It’s time for a name change. “Washington” offends millions of people around the country. They shall be known as the Prince George’s Redskins.

  154. briang123 says: Jul 25, 2014 4:05 PM

    Who would know racial barriers better than him? Being black has kept him from getting the top job at two network shows….oh wait

  155. mdf53 says: Jul 25, 2014 4:15 PM

    The names that Daniel Snyder has been called for carrying on a harmless tradition of courage and pride is far more offensive than the name that he’s being ridiculed for.

    He has a right to own the team with the name that he has invested his heart and soul into as a boy loving what it stands for.

    Neither does the name imply any such reference.

    Attempting to use Sambo in the same context would imply that REDSKINS is the American Indian people’s code word like the N-word is black people code word for denigration and degradation.

    He hasn’t committed any criminal, social or economic crimes, he just refuses to let a bunch of loud mouth bleeding heart critics who couldnt care less about the real issues, bully him out of his constitutional rights.

    If the American Indian people don’t want to be called Redskins, let them take their first offense within their own community and erase all references to the name as offensive, oppressive, demeaning, derogatory and dehumanizing.

    Has Red Mesa been changed yet? What mystical powers does Dan Snyder hold over them that makes them keep their name, REDSKINS?

    Do-re-me……

    Me the name I call myself!!!

    All of you jealous haters of Dan Snyder know that this is political and truly is not offensive and that you will not be able to use this emotional manipulation to get your own way to shame him into submission to your crap.

    What else was James Brown supposed to say in public forum with his but exposed to the backlash of political correctness?

    Grow up and go buy your own team and call it whatever you want.

    We like the REDSKINS! So deal with it Haters!

  156. revskip says: Jul 25, 2014 4:22 PM

    Momentum continues to build. The name will change.

  157. jayovalentine says: Jul 25, 2014 4:28 PM

    Get up off of that thang ! Haaaa ! Even the REAL James Brown would tell him to zip it and fix his hairline !! Hail to the REDSKINS !

  158. pftcensor1 says: Jul 25, 2014 4:30 PM

    KC you are on deck – keeping in mind that Amanda Blackhorse has indicated that some Natives find the C-Word offensive as well as the R-Word.

    “Well, so, if in fact it’s offensive to Native Americans — and there doesn’t have to be unanimity on this…”

    “….if the name is offensive to a group of people, then do the right thing and change the name.”

    …the C-Word is clearly offensive to a group of people so James Brown seems to be on record as thinking that Kansas City should change their name.

  159. jayovalentine says: Jul 25, 2014 4:31 PM

    BTW, I know some Oneida guys that are Redskins fans ! Do the right thing Florio… you claim to be a journalist, get both sides of the argument !!!

  160. cbgbs21 says: Jul 25, 2014 4:38 PM

    It’s simple; are you a fan of the team, or a fan of the name of the team? Who cares if they change it, still the same team.

  161. 34defense2014 says: Jul 25, 2014 4:42 PM

    Oops, darn
    Phone! Change the name!!

  162. revelation123 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:00 PM

    The homeless guy on the side of the street wants the name to be changed too you know. His opinion matters more than most.

  163. 34defense2014 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:12 PM

    FACT: 1, “REDSKINS” was a name given to Americans by European settlers. FACT: 2 It also was a way to determine a White mans/Women’s /Children’s scalps. FACT: 3 “REDSKIN” is as offensive as the “N” word is to describe African Americans! Or the “C” word to describe Women! FACT: 4 Custer said ” Kill every dirty Redskin, Warriors, Women and children alike”. Change the name!! One would have to be completely ignorant and or did not pay attention in History class?! Simple, “The Washington Americans” would be perfect!! Keep the team colors and logo the same. Problem solved!

  164. 34defense2014 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:20 PM

    I’ve also noticed that the NFL Network is still using “REDSKINS” every time I hear it I cringe!! My Wife called Direct TV and made a compliant. She also wrote an E. Mail to the NFL Network. If they continue to use it. We are dropping the NFL Network along with Direct TV!! Great job PFT in giving your columnist the green light!! Well done!!

  165. pftcensor1 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:24 PM

    jayovalentine –

    I don’t think that anyone at this site ever claimed to be a journalist.

  166. pftcensor1 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:25 PM

    34defense –
    Check out the history of the word as reported by Slate -based on Smithsonian research – they may help you clarify your “facts”.

  167. darealsmiley4284 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:27 PM

    34defense2014, NFL Network nor Direct TV are not going to miss you sweetheart. And stop making your wife call and email because she’s gullible enough to fall for this farce and you are too embarrassed to do it yourself.

  168. darealsmiley4284 says: Jul 25, 2014 5:46 PM

    Yeah…..a Native American with the ID “nachoface”. Pfffft, get lost imposter. You’re as Native American as the frauds qdog and tinbender.

  169. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 25, 2014 5:55 PM

    hey JB, lay off the Golden Corral and shut up… your opinion is pretty much usesless

  170. nachoface says: Jul 25, 2014 8:25 PM

    darealsmiley4284 says:
    Jul 25, 2014 5:46 PM
    Yeah…..a Native American with the ID “nachoface”. Pfffft, get lost imposter. You’re as Native American as the frauds qdog and tinbender.

    Imposter? Yeah, come up to my reservation in Keshena and wear a Washington jersey and see how far you get.

    And BTW, why is it every time PFT gets a REAL INDIAN TO POST ON WHAT THIS RACIST TEAM MEANS TO US, THE F… KING POSTS ARE DELETED?

  171. biteitlikeraffa says: Jul 25, 2014 8:32 PM

    Gee, only one name change story today? Who ya got lined up for tomorrow, your pot stirring today was mighty thin gruel.

  172. bigmattimatt says: Jul 25, 2014 9:49 PM

    It’s funny to me that this guy is getting killed for giving his opinion by people who are doing the exact same thing!

  173. coachbeck says: Jul 25, 2014 11:39 PM

    I love how these guys pander to the very small minority.

    Soon PETA and the democrats will be wanting no animal names for teams as well.

  174. TheWizard says: Jul 26, 2014 10:01 AM

    Dude has a face for radio.

  175. calvinhobbes5000 says: Jul 26, 2014 11:56 AM

    What if there was a team called the Washington Redheads, and their mascot was a ginger. Alfred E Newman or somebody. Would anyone care? No. Why not? What’s the difference between skin and hair? Redskin is not OK but Redhead is? “Red hair” isn’t even really red either, it’s more like orangey.”

    Really? This isn’t true at all. There isn’t a team called the gingers because people would be pissed.

  176. ivanmook says: Jul 26, 2014 11:06 PM

    In pro sports can you really make the argument “go buy your own team and do what you want”? How well is that working for the Clippers owner? That was freedom of speech, absolutely, but he’s being murdered for it and rightfully so.

    I grew up not caring about the word Redskins, but as I grew older and older it makes me more and more uncomfortable. Every high school team in our state had to change those names 20 years ago. Nobody is mad anymore. It passes.

    Where are all the angry Washington Bullet Fans!!!!!???? They got over it.

  177. mshell1506 says: Jul 27, 2014 1:17 AM

    Washington REDSKINS forever!!!!! Don’t buckle to the pressure of the political correctness police. People who are easily offended are simply lacking in self esteem or IQ or both!!!

  178. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 27, 2014 8:26 PM

    and in breaking news

    man that blew up at Golden Corral like the girl in Charlie and the Choc factory identified as James Brown

  179. stevent92 says: Jul 27, 2014 10:05 PM

    I would not know how to think or feel about social issues unless NBC tells me how to think or feel.

    Therefore, I am against the Redskins name because PFT is against it, and I am too stupid and/or uncultured to form an educated opinion for myself.

    And if I disagree with PFT or NBC, it is because I am stupid, incoherent, evil, immoral, white, non-Native, uneducated, incompetent, Republican, bigoted, and/or intolerant.

  180. GettingNoRespect says: Jul 28, 2014 7:50 AM

    34defense2014,
    FACT: 1, “REDSKINS” was a name first used by a Native American, look it up

    FACT: 2 How could this be? Their skins isn’t really red, unless you are talking about the blood, and I am pretty sure that all of our blood is red

    FACT: 3 Again, the simple fact that you are ok spelling out the word “Redskin”, but abbreviate the N-word shows that they are not the same at all, not even close. That fact that schools with large Native American populations still use the name, and one just recently voted to keep it. There are no schools in any area that use the N-word. Never have as far as I know.

    FACT: 4: Can’t confirm or deny this fact, but a man using a word offensively doesn’t mean it is an offensive word in general.

    As to the word FACT, I do not think it means what you think it means?

  181. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 28, 2014 9:43 AM

    Hail to the Redskins! To hell with the Libs!

  182. ivanmook says: Jul 28, 2014 5:48 PM

    I wish people would do some reading beyond the one thing they find on wikipedia that supports their argument and call it FACT. It’s about the evolution of that word, not how a few chiefs used it to separate themselves from whites in talks 250 years ago. Negro was a pretty accepted word, too.

    Some African-Americans call each other the n-word. Most despise it. Some Indian school districts use “redskin” and thousands of Indians despise the term. So who is right? Is it ever right? Are they terms of empowerment or endearment? The fact that people in their own culture and race hate these words should give us pause.

    You know what though? I’m a conservative, late 30’s, middle class taxpayer, Republican for the most part, and go nuts when I hear most PC crap like “Ban Bossy” and “What do you mean, YOU people?” so honestly I’m probably like a lot of you but, Natives weren’t even citizens until the 1920’s and some still couldn’t even vote. They are a group who has always been 50 years behind all others in terms of civil rights.

    Is everyone trying to argue FOR the name change a liberal, DB, Obama-loving, brainwasher or are there actual arguments that make good sense that are backed up from the pro-Snyder camp? That would actually be fun to talk about. Note I didn’t call anyone ignorant, or redneck, or uneducated, or racist. Name calling is ridiculous when it comes to interesting topics. Just questioning the logic.

  183. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 29, 2014 9:52 AM

    stop dancing

    most calling for the name change are either ignorant followers or strictly playing politics

  184. tnfire69 says: Jul 29, 2014 7:44 PM

    I would feel differently if most of these people who are now all of sudden calling for a name change really felt this way. Not just because they were told to feel this way. Since James Brown won’t be saying the Redskins I would like to know what he is going to start calling the Chiefs?
    Ms. Blackhorse who started all this also said that we should not use chiefs either.
    “If, in fact — to me, this is my opinion only, not representing CBS Sports, or News — if the name is offensive to a group of people, then do the right thing and change the name. It’s as simple as that.”
    Just to quote him in case you disagree with my question.

  185. mdpgc says: Jul 29, 2014 7:57 PM

    According to Sports Business News, the majority of Washington, D.C. residents want the Washington Redskins to keep the its name. A Vox Populi poll found that 65% of NFL fans reject changing the team name.

    The Vox Populi survey, which was conducted July 20-21 was of 701 self-declared NFL fans. They all live in either Washington, D.C., the Commonwealth of Virginia within the Washington D.C. Metro Area or in one of the following counties in the state of Maryland: Montgomery, Prince George’s, Charles, St. Mary’s, and Calvert.

    Based on Redskins fans, 77% don’t want the name changed. Of the NFL fans polled, 71% said the Redskins name is not offensive and 83 of the individuals who identified themselves as Redskins fans do not find it offensive.

  186. tnfire69 says: Jul 29, 2014 8:06 PM

    A point that has not, as far as I know, been mentioned in this context is that scalps or other body parts presented as evidence of kills would not, in general, have been red. As I can attest from personal experience with the processing of animals killed by hunters, mammalian blood is bright red when fresh but darkens quickly as it oxidizes. When dried it retains a dark red tinge if thin but in any thickness is black. Under most circumstances bounty hunters did not present their trophies for payment until days or weeks after the kill, by which time the blood would have been more black than red. The suggestion that such trophies would give a primary impression of red is due either to a false idea that they would usually have been presented when fresh or to a lack of familiarity with dried blood. A further difficulty with Harjo’s hypothesis is that, although whites did indeed collect Indian trophies as evidence of kills, the popular image of scalping was and is that it was an activity engaged in primarily by Indians who mutilated the corpses of their white victims. There was therefore no reason to associate bloody trophies, red or not, with Indians. If anything, the association would have been with the white victims of scalping

  187. tnfire69 says: Jul 29, 2014 8:23 PM

    To the above post I made. This is argument that Ms. Blackhorse is using, was used once before by a woman named Suzan Harjo. This was part of her point when the Redskins lost their trademark the first time. However, it was overturned because after a review of
    Harjo’s claim that the term Redskin it “had its origins in the practice of presenting bloody red skins and scalps as proof of Indian kill for bounty payments” is unsupported by any evidence.

  188. ivanmook says: Jul 29, 2014 11:35 PM

    I also saw a study that said 8/10 Redskin fans don’t want to change the name. But when asked if they would ever call a Native American that, well over half of those same people said, “no”.

    History may not even matter though before the Redskins got their name. This first owner, Marshall, a known racist in his own right, apparently named the team for the first coach, who later it turns out wasn’t even Indian! He said it to escape the draft. I digress. I’m sure Marshall was not into the “proud tradition of the Indian”. He called them Redskin. A term used to describe a race, that was made up by another race. Further, he named them in a time when America was at it’s height in overt racism. Yes folks, the 20’s and 30’s, not the 50’s.

  189. Dogsweat says: Aug 1, 2014 5:43 PM

    1. Washington Warlords

    2. Washington Warlocks

    Keep the colors.

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