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NFL V.P. Adolpho Birch struggles to justify Ray Rice suspension

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has not yet spoken publicly on the controversial two-game suspension given to Ravens running back Ray Rice for assaulting his wife. But one of Goodell’s top deputies, NFL V.P. of labor policy and government affairs Adolpho Birch, went on the radio this morning in an attempt to explain. It did not go well.

Birch’s appearance on this morning’s Mike & Mike was so bad — so totally incapable of justifying the relatively light punishment handed to Rice — that host Mike Greenberg felt the need after the interview to address the listeners who had contacted the show to express their frustration with Birch’s evasions. Greenberg said he was frustrated by Birch’s evasions, too.

“I’m a little taken aback by the conversation, to be honest with you. The reaction is overwhelming and no one seems to think that he did a particularly good job of answering the questions,” Greenberg said minutes after the interview with Birch ended. “I do not feel that most people listening to that discussion feel they got an adequate explanation of how they arrived at two games.”

So how did the NFL arrive at two games for Rice? Well, Birch didn’t really have much of an answer. At one point he said the NFL was “bound in large part by precedent in prior cases.” But Birch said that just moments after insisting that prior cases — particularly the suspension of Ben Roethlisberger after he was accused of (but not criminally charged with) sexual assault — couldn’t be compared to the Rice case.

Birch also refused to answer whether the NFL is aware of information that isn’t available to the general public, such as surveillance camera footage beyond what has been widely distributed showing Rice dragging his unconscious then-fiancee out of an elevator. But Birch insisted that a two-game suspension without pay isn’t a minor punishment.

“It is multiple games and hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think it’s fair to say that doesn’t reflect that you condone the behavior,” Birch said.

But the question isn’t whether the NFL condones a player beating up his wife. The question is whether the NFL is willing to take severe disciplinary actions against a player who beats up his wife. And the answer to that question is a resounding, “No.” The NFL hands out longer suspensions for everything from getting caught smoking pot repeatedly, to taking Adderall without filling out the necessary paperwork to — in the case of Roethlisberger — being accused of crimes without any arrests or charges. For the NFL to come down harder on pot smokers, Adderall users and players who weren’t evan arrested than it came down on Rice is baffling and requires an explanation.

Birch may have been trying to explain, but he failed. Greenberg said that in the minutes after the interview, the show got thousands of reactions via Twitter and email and that, “I can’t find a single one of them that said, ‘Well, that explained it for me.’ Literally not a single one.”

After Birch’s unsuccessful attempt to to explain the suspension, it’s time for Goodell to step up. NFL fans want to know why Ray Rice got off easy, and they want to hear it from Goodell.

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167 Responses to “NFL V.P. Adolpho Birch struggles to justify Ray Rice suspension”
  1. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 28, 2014 10:20 AM

    I do wonder how the negotiations with Roger went… dude paid himself $43M officially last year

    Goodell and Kraft are in this for themselves…. killing the league

  2. jonghshow says: Jul 28, 2014 10:21 AM

    “If you can’t explain it to a six year old, you don’t understand it yourself.”
    ― Albert Einstein

  3. troy43mvp says: Jul 28, 2014 10:21 AM

    Hypocrisy Can Never Be Explained Well!

  4. pooflingingmonkey says: Jul 28, 2014 10:24 AM

    It’s crap. Everyone knows it except this guy, Goodell and Rice.

  5. chargerdillon says: Jul 28, 2014 10:24 AM

    So in further review….

    Neither NFL officials nor NFL fans understand how any disciplinary action is handed down.

    Glad we have this all cleared up!

  6. flaccodelic says: Jul 28, 2014 10:26 AM

    Anyone who ridiculously claims the NFL somehow favors the Ravens (based in part on this too-light punishment) needs to think again. The league is not doing the Ravens any favors with the way they have handled this.

    What should have been an immediate 6-8 game suspension was instead delayed so long that the delay itself became another layer of the story. Then, a punishment that every reasonable person thinks was absurd becomes reason to highlight it more. Now they sidestep reasonable questions, all of which combines to make it look like there is some sketchy backroom deal going on. I don’t believe that’s the case– I think the league is just too full of itself to step back and realize how terrible these things appear.

    In short, a horrible situation made even worse by the fumbling from the Commish. I am disgusted.

  7. jacunn2000 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:26 AM

    Ray Rice was such a respected good guy, until he wasn’t…

  8. rayburns says: Jul 28, 2014 10:26 AM

    After a promising start, Goodell’s legacy is shaping up to be a train wreck.

  9. maestro1899 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:27 AM

    Kids, let this be a lesson to you.

    If you want to break an NFL rule, beat up your fiancee, go right ahead. Better yet, drink a whole bottle of Jack and then do it!

    But don’t you dare smoke marijuana! If you do, they will take away your job and make an example of you.

    If you are going to hit something, be smart and hit a woman, not a joint.

  10. garyhd01 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:27 AM

    birch did not struggle to explain the suspension he completely failed mr 43 million now needs to explain it (roger goodell) to say that they took hundreds of thousands of dollars from ray rice leads me to believe that if a rookie 6th rounder was to do the same thing and he got the same 2 games plus a check penalty then it may only cost him 10-20 thousand for beating a woman BAD MESSAGE!!

  11. Getoffmylawn! says: Jul 28, 2014 10:27 AM

    I hope that Ray Rice knocks out Goodell’s wife next. Then maybe he would get the suspension he deserved.

  12. criticaldsj says: Jul 28, 2014 10:28 AM

    Which is why they were better off sticking to the Tagliabue method of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law for all non-drug test related suspensions.

    Which, hey, I may not have always liked personally, but at least it was consistent.

    Get it now, Roger?

  13. touchdownroddywhite says: Jul 28, 2014 10:28 AM

    Goodell better be very careful before “taking the stand”. If he fumbles the explanation, this will get nasty.

  14. drez146 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:28 AM

    Funny…I’ve been watching NFL network for the past couple days in the morning and there was no mention of the Ray Rice incident at all…if they did it was brief…

  15. coloradofort says: Jul 28, 2014 10:28 AM

    the futuristic words of Mark Cuban begin to sound more and more reasonable…….

  16. sdelmonte says: Jul 28, 2014 10:29 AM

    I say this as a big fan of Mike & Mike (especially Mr. Greenberg): they don’t ask hard questions. They will not hesitate to be rough on people who deserve it in overall conversations, but in interviews they don’t push that hard. Probably because they don’t want to scare off future guests.

    So if Birch couldn’t handle their questions, he’s clearly got no answers worth mentioning.

    He’s also probably not going to be invited back on that show. Or any other show with hosts who have challenged the Rice decision. Which, to ESPN’s credit, has been most of the radio I’ve heard in the past four days. The only apologist I’ve encountered are the unfortunate Jonathan Coachman and the somewhat less objectionable Stephen A Smith. Everyone else has shared my outrage and that of the broader public.

  17. infectorman says: Jul 28, 2014 10:30 AM

    2 is a multiple of 1.
    1×2 =2. 2 flippin games?

    Should 8 at a minimum.
    Perhaps a season, given how ludicrous this all is with Josh Gordon

  18. ravens2xworldchamps says: Jul 28, 2014 10:30 AM

    We still have Super Bowl champion Bernard Pierce, and future pro bowl RB Taliaferro

  19. kylexitron says: Jul 28, 2014 10:30 AM

    The hard part for me is that they are married, so her income is likely his income. So by suspending him, you’re taking money out of her pocket as well. I realize this doesn’t justify anything but it is a tricky fact.

  20. mvp43 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:31 AM

    That was one of the most difficult interviews that I’ve ever listened to. My question remains why domestic violence is not addressed in the CBA. That makes no sense at all.

  21. notthetroll says: Jul 28, 2014 10:32 AM

    The NFL really stepped in it this time.

  22. jetblackninja says: Jul 28, 2014 10:32 AM

    This is some serious BS, it is a pall that will hang over the Ravens entire season, and should loom over the league for years to come.

    PR DISASTER.

  23. scoreatwill says: Jul 28, 2014 10:34 AM

    Again!!! This is only a set-up so Goodell can go easy on Jim Irsay. That is why there is no explanation for the lenient Ray Rice punishment.

  24. eaglesw00t says: Jul 28, 2014 10:35 AM

    Lane Johnson and Dion Jordan both got twice the suspension for taking banned supplements. That is their fault, and the CBA regulates suspension length for PED suspensions, granted.

    But to treat taking banned supplements twice as bad as knocking your wife out is flat out ridiculous.

    Ive stood behind Roger on most issues. But plenty of players who dealt with legal issues for the first time got much worse punishments than Rice.

    Vick had no criminal history prior to the dog issue. Roethlisberger had no criminal history prior to his suspension. Yet they each received a much much harsher suspension than Rice.

    I really think this is an unexcusable mistake to ban him for only 2 games, and then try to justify it. Had he just done a 4 game suspension, people wouldnt say that pot smokers got twice as much.

    But as it stands, Ray Rice knocked his wife out, and is being suspended for 8 days. Sunday for the game, and the following 7 days until Monday. And $58,000 from his 2013 salary, and not his inflated 2014 salary. This punishment is a joke.

  25. kingpel says: Jul 28, 2014 10:35 AM

    Is it possible that feedback from prosecutors and law enforcement weigh heavily on these decisions? What they know and what they can prove in court are two different things. Perhaps they felt Rice’s situation was more of a self defense situation given none of us has seen what actually occurred. That can be the only reasonable explanation.

  26. 1rockyracoon says: Jul 28, 2014 10:36 AM

    He couldn’t explain it because the league dropped the ball on this one. The league should have suspended him for at least 8 games. Then, the NFLPA could have fought the suspension through an arbitrator. Let them defend a man who knocked out his fiancé. Hopefully, the league has learned it’s lesson and will treat women beaters harsher next time.

  27. officialgame says: Jul 28, 2014 10:36 AM

    It was far to light a sentence which had more to do with the wife begging Goodell not to suspend Rice then anything else. Rodger should never have listened to a battered women in denial but he did and there are no “go backs”.

  28. bucrightoff says: Jul 28, 2014 10:37 AM

    It’s not that two games is a major or minor suspension. It’s that smoking weed or driving drunk have worse consequences from the NFL head office than physically assaulting a woman. It sends a pretty ridiculous message that you are better off punching a woman till she’s out cold than smoking a joint.

    That the NFL can’t see the problem is the biggest issue here. Speaks to extreme naivety.

  29. mrlaloosh says: Jul 28, 2014 10:37 AM

    They give Terrell Pryor 5 games for something he did while in college and not in the NFL but Ravens running back Ray Rice gets 2 for beating his future wife unconscious. Gee Roger, nice job. Moron….

  30. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 28, 2014 10:37 AM

    Hmm, I just think it’s beyond time for Roger Goodell to be replaced by somebody who can handle the job in a responsible matter across all facets. And he fails at almost everything he does, except being a stereotypical politician.

  31. nosleeptilsb says: Jul 28, 2014 10:38 AM

    Crimes against women and children don’t bode well for guys in prison. I hope the opposing defenses show the same rogue justice on Rice this season. Rich punk.

  32. gopblows says: Jul 28, 2014 10:38 AM

    But no problems with a 2 year dog suspension.

  33. lowdownmofo says: Jul 28, 2014 10:38 AM

    Goodell is “Krafty”.

  34. pftthoughtpolicemostwanted says: Jul 28, 2014 10:40 AM

    Allow me to help: Ray Rice knocks out women so we had to suspend him for a couple games.

  35. buffaloisadumpsterandtheirfansaremorons says: Jul 28, 2014 10:40 AM

    Guys get thrown out of the league for marijuana. Guy beats up his wife and gets 2 games.

    Only in the NFL.

  36. jasnite says: Jul 28, 2014 10:44 AM

    Me: Hey Roger……Did you here that Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out in an elevator in Atlantic City. They even have video. I know he is gonna get a big supension and fine for this……

    Roger: Well not neccessarily….That was his girlfriend…Now she’s his wife so its OK….

  37. mykpfsu says: Jul 28, 2014 10:46 AM

    Consider this, Rice got one more week of suspension than Don Jones did for tweeting about Michael Sam.

  38. realdealsteel says: Jul 28, 2014 10:46 AM

    Look at the facts:

    1. Ed Reed was committing numerous personal fouls in his last season and Goodall refused to suspend him.

    2. Ray Lewis was using Deer extract and Goodall looked the other way and didn’t do anything about that.

    3. Ray Rice hits a woman and only gets a two game suspension but Terrell Pryor gets a 5 game suspension for selling his own memorabilia.

    4. Goodall is on record as saying the Ravens are his favorite team.

    This is all clear proof that the Ravens ARE indeed his favorite team.

  39. eaglesnoles05 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:48 AM

    Why don’t the Ravens clear it up for us and add an extra 6 games to the toll?

  40. pats777 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:49 AM

    PIC, we all know your hatred for the Pats is unequivocal, but if you must bring Kraft into this particular argument, you must bring the rest of the billionaire boys club too. They all share responsibility for Godell’s ridiculous salary and lack of proper/consistent discipline. In fact, we should all write to our own club owners and threaten to take our money elsewhere. After all, that is the bottom line. They could care less about us unless we stop buying the product.

  41. kkalama1 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:51 AM

    Stupid, smoke weed and the whole law book comes down but lay a woman out cold and only get a slap on the wrists

  42. FoozieGrooler says: Jul 28, 2014 10:54 AM

    So let me get this straight.
    Michael Vick beat dogs and got two years in prison.
    Ray Rice beat his wife unconscious and he gets a two-game suspension?

    Hmm, okay.
    Message received loud and clear Roger.

  43. macbull says: Jul 28, 2014 10:54 AM

    It was painful to listen to Mr Birch attempt to explain the unexplainable.

    I have never been impressed with Roger Goodell’s knowledge of the game of football and now that I have listened to Adolpho Birch attempt to spin the NFL’s Ray Rice decision, I’m troubled to think that these guys are in charge of the National Football League.

    The Ray Rice punishment was a favor from the NFL to the Ravens owner, Steve Bisciotti.

    …I’m sorry, but there is no other way to define what Goodell did…it might shock some, but there is favoritism in the NFL and this is but one example.

  44. nyking1963 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:54 AM

    Goodell’s looking for a way to have a softball interview done somewhere, somehow.
    I think he’ll either do it with NFL network or Schefter/Mortensen. Those 2 lackey’s would never do anything to harm their relationship with the NFL
    Even with Mike & Mike, the network is in bed with the NFL. They’re not going to do a hard interview with Goodell for fear of alienating their bread and butter sport.
    Listening to them this morning before the interview, they kep prefacing the fact that they know Goodell and he’s a good guy.
    You have to look at this with common sense. There is absolutely no excuse that anyone can reasonably come up with for why the suspension was so lenient. Whatever Goodell’s going to come up with will be lame and make him look bad. He deserves that!

  45. tennesseeoilers says: Jul 28, 2014 10:56 AM

    I used to be a Roger Goodell fan … but decisions he kept making slowly chipped away at the great impression I had of him … and then, with one major sledgehammer (all but condoning Ray Rice’s behavior) he crushed any remaining respect I had for him.

    – Titans Fan

  46. stew48 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:58 AM

    It is all very sad. One of RG’s “outs” was a request from his wife. I do wonder if she was compensated for marrying him, which is a sad reflection on me. I also will be watching to see if they remain married. Rice may be one of the most respected players on the Ravens, but it is obvious that consequences for actions is nowhere in evidence to date.

  47. psj3809 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:58 AM

    Its disgusting, just a 2 game ban for assaulting his girlfriend.

    I’m getting more and more fed up with the NFL when they dish out these ridiculous light suspensions like this for domestic violence.

    Rice is a great player but if any player does something like this they need proper punishment. A 2 week ban is a slap in the face, his girlfriend/fiancee might have forgiven the multi millionaire footballer boyfriend, but this is a slap in the face to all victims who have suffered domestic violence. Not good

  48. chad504boy says: Jul 28, 2014 10:58 AM

    Roger will fix this by the NFL wearing 2 MONTHS worth of pink on Sundays.

  49. troy43mvp says: Jul 28, 2014 10:59 AM

    Maybe the N.F.L. can hire Stephen A. Smith to come in and explain it to us……….

  50. bsizemore68 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:01 AM

    Real leaders step up and take the heat when they screw up. So where is Roger? Is he hiding behind his staff? I think we need a new NFL Leader. Bill

  51. decaturstaley75 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:01 AM

    Having listened to the interview, I was shocked at how seemingly unprepared Birch was. There is no good case to be made for the NFL’s decision in this matter, but shouldn’t the guy at least have been ready to discuss things in a well spoken manner? This is the spokesman?!?!?! He was barely able to string together a coherent sentence.

  52. eaglesw00t says: Jul 28, 2014 11:03 AM

    Yeah, if the Ravens were a standup organization, they would tack on 2 more games of suspension, and let Rice appeal that one.

    It obviously wont happen…but you have to think that if youre in the Ravens FO, you would win some public support from fans of other teams for making things right here.

    Not gonna happen though.

  53. stew48 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:04 AM

    BTW, when we point to RG for his actions, we are really pointing at 32 owners who fully support his every move. And that is much more painful to endure.

  54. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:04 AM

    Beat a woman, knock her unconscious and drag her out of an elevator – 2 games

    Smoke weed which is legal in some states and decriminalized in many now – 4 games minimum to a permanent ban

    The NFL is so detached from reality and what its fans want now that I can’t imagine it retaining its fan base in the coming years.

  55. jamaltimore says: Jul 28, 2014 11:04 AM

    Despite the nonsense the NFL does what it wants and Ray Rice is actually a really good guy who made a mistake when drunk in a casino at 3am. Terrible mistake but obviously his wife and wife’s father supporting him after this and speaking on his behalf went a long way to saving his rear end from a larger suspension.

  56. ghost26 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:05 AM

    The decision by the NFL to suspend him for only two games is inexplicable. I shudder to think what (if any) suspension will be given to Irsay.

    Goodell’s dictatorship is not good for the players or the fans but he’s apparently what the owners want–a money grubbing puppet with ‘a plantation mentality’ toward the players. I wish the problems with the NFL ended with Goodell but the main issues lies with the outspoken owners like Jerry Jones & Robert Kraft who are going to sail the NFL ship into an iceberg. In addition the players union is too weak & caves in on issues that are bad for their members.

    The fact that Kraft came out & said that Belichick LOVES to play games on Thursday night speaks volumes. Even if that were true Belichick is not a player. The players make the game not the coaches & the players need more than three days of recovery time after a game is played the previous Sunday. This is a terrible idea for the ‘health & safety’ of the players which Goodell continues to talk about but yet ignores when it comes up vs. television deals.

  57. wwwmattcom says: Jul 28, 2014 11:06 AM

    The league is going further down hill without Ralph Wilson.

  58. pittsburghfan71 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:07 AM

    #FireGoodell

  59. pointywilliams says: Jul 28, 2014 11:07 AM

    You know why Roger hasn’t spoken??.. Cause he know’s he’s dead wrong.

  60. nflpoker says: Jul 28, 2014 11:08 AM

    3rd rounder gets caught beating his wife. The
    penalty is that he gets cut and the NFL may actually come down harder.

    If a star player does it, not much will happen

    I.E. Money

    If it was AP that did it instead of Rice, you probably wouldn’t see any different.

  61. Squawk and Awe says: Jul 28, 2014 11:08 AM

    It’s pretty sad that we complain about the NFL not punishing him harder, like Roger Goodell is supposed to be the judicial system for everyone employed by the nfl, and yet no one brings up the slap on the wrist he received from our actual justice system.

  62. nix35 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:10 AM

    For anyone saying, maybe he wasn’t proven guilty or there are things we don’t know, there is a tape. So that is some evidence. Roethlisberger had a worse punishment with no evidence at all. Not even a probably that he did it.

  63. jbird056719 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:15 AM

    I have two problems here –

    1) Most employers would not be disciplining its employees for such incidents. Because the NFL (in part) depends on the actions and character of the players on and off the field, it must have some discipline in place and yes – this punishment appears to be way too light.

    2) However, ore troubling is that Rice has no real punishment from the LAW!!!! You can knock out your fiancee’ and walk away virtually untouched says more about our laws than a suspension from an employer!

  64. chinahand11 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:17 AM

    Pathetic interview. Took ten minutes to answer every yes/no question – and leave the question unanswered. I wanted to choke him. All that talk and saying nothing, Birch is the master.

  65. sterling7 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:18 AM

    The penalty from Goodell was a complete sham and everybody knows it. Goodell needs to get his head out of his a$$!

  66. mungman69 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:19 AM

    Boy o Boy, I listened to that interview. Why would this guy come on and try to answer questions when he has no answers?

  67. mungman69 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:21 AM

    This Ray Rice story might get real ugly real soon. Ray Rice is a dope. The NFL is flat out stupid.

  68. xbam1 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:23 AM

    I heard that debacle on the radio…OMG what a pathetic excuse of a man Adolpho Birch is…Roger needs to grow some stones and explain his actions on this one and better do a better job than his lackey did…the public doesn’t want to hear nonsense either…we as a public don’t want to spend our hard earned cash or OUR governments cash supporting a league that continues to condone this kind of behavior…

  69. raiderufan says: Jul 28, 2014 11:24 AM

    At what point does an owner step up and question whether Goodell is the right guy to be in charge?

    This should be a time of swelling excitement with camps started and the season very close. This punishment should have been much much harsher and it should have been months ago….just like the Gordon hearing…what the hell?

    I see no way that all 32 owners are on board with this punishment and the piss poor defense from people put in power to be able to be apart of the decision and be able to defend it.

    The NFL should be embarassed.

  70. 1greatusername says: Jul 28, 2014 11:25 AM

    I realize the NFL has ex-FBI super-investigators that find the information that becomes the basis for these decisions – Vick, Rothlesburger, etc. But what could they possibly have uncovered that justified 2 games, really? Was she pointing a gun at his head?

    The coach from the Vikings got 3 games for saying some words that hurt Kluwe’s feelings.

    Rice got two games for *actually* hurting someone (presumably, since he knocked her out cold).

    How does that make any sense?

  71. grinhea says: Jul 28, 2014 11:25 AM

    I’m definitely not saying that the NFL shouldn’t go harsher on Rice…the fact that he got two games baffles me to no end.

    However, nobody really seems to be mad at the fact that the authorities are not stepping in and doing more about this. It is THEIR job to protect women from guys like this and he got off way too easy from a legal standpoint. I think that’s the sad part.

    Its also sad that his wife is blinded by his millions and deciding to stick around…hopefully her plan was to marry him just to divorce him and take half.

  72. blackeyesaint says: Jul 28, 2014 11:26 AM

    Let me get this straight. To clarify I think a year are more suspension for Rice would be warranted. But to tout Ben Rothlisberger as someone that was done wrong by the NFL is ludicrous/insane. A man that raped and are assaulted multiple women, bought his way out of an indictment in Ga; in which crimes against women in Ga are automatic indictment regardless of evidence or lack there of. Using Ben Rapelisburger is a pitiful ploy by anyone. Every women dreams of having sex on a men’s urinal….

  73. raiderufan says: Jul 28, 2014 11:27 AM

    Oh….and I’d love to be a fly on the wall when he’s defending this to his wife and twin daughters.

  74. sbchampsagain says: Jul 28, 2014 11:29 AM

    The problem with this topic is that much of the media and fans are unaware (or ignoring) of the NFL bylaws.

    How did this Birch guy not simply state that the penalties for smoking dope REPEATEDLY is collectively bargained in the contract and the penalties for violating the personal conduct policy are not.

    The personal conduct policy considers a variety of informaiton and sources when handing down a penlty, including a full NFL inverstigation.

    It’s obvious that the NFL saw somethign outside of the TMZ video (self defense evisdence?) and felt Ray Rice, as a first time offender, and after speaking with the victim (RICE’S WIFE!), and considering all the evidence that this was an apropriate penalty.

    Right or wrong, that’s the answer, most are missing.

  75. gadlaw2012 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:30 AM

    It really is outrageous to get only a two game suspension but many more games for recreational drug use or performance enhancement drugs. Just completely tone deaf about the seriousness of the assault.

  76. broncostevenp says: Jul 28, 2014 11:31 AM

    You can’t explain the inexplicable.

  77. jefferee101 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:34 AM

    The NFL has shown with regularity their bias toward teams like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England, and Baltimore. This is just another example in a long list of head-scratching decisions that benefit these teams. For example, one need look no further than MN vs. Balt. last year, when refs called a fumble on Gerhart which clearly was not a fumble. That decision directly affected Balt. winning that game. The list goes on and on.

  78. berniethedog1 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:36 AM

    The suspension was disgusting and not the defending of it is getting even more disgusting.. He knocked her out…. Anybody else would have been fired!

  79. Bull Rush says: Jul 28, 2014 11:37 AM

    It is simple. They have more information about the situation than the public. Regardless of what people say these people are not idiots.

  80. hmink96 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:40 AM

    Why does everyone think that they know more than the people that have all the information and facts. Things like that fact rice and his girlfriend left the police station together on the night of the incident (some cops, right?), and the prosecutors didnt take this to court (some lawyers, right?), and the office that is usually criticized for going too hard on suspensions. I guess all of these people are wrong, and its the folks with their torches and pitchforks are right.

  81. ravenssuggskoch says: Jul 28, 2014 11:40 AM

    Maybe they meant 2 seasons and don’t know how to correct it now?

  82. greg285 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:42 AM

    This ruling was not Only a BIG joke, but Roger Goodell is the biggest JOKE that ever happened to the NFL!!!

  83. mogogo1 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:44 AM

    My first thought is that there is an owner with a domestic abuse skeleton in his closet that Goodell fears will become public in the near future. A tough stance on Rice would force Goodell to do something to the owner, which he doesn’t want to do.

  84. Fantasy Football Consultant says: Jul 28, 2014 11:44 AM

    Was Rice arrested? Relax.

  85. benmunchen says: Jul 28, 2014 11:50 AM

    In this age of equality, how is it that women can still assault men, but if a man returns (defends himself?) aggression he is a wife beater. Lesson: If you throw a punch, you ought to expect one back….so don’t throw a punch if you cant take one. Many situations are not as simple as that, but its a good place to start

  86. v2787 says: Jul 28, 2014 11:52 AM

    It didn’t go well because there is no legitimate justification for the slap on the wrist that Ray Rice received. The NFL has a problem here, and they don’t seem to know what to do about it. I don’t think it’s going to go away anytime soon, either.

  87. Eutaw's Finest says: Jul 28, 2014 11:55 AM

    He could have explained that the NFL also looks at things such as community involvement, past incidents, and testimonies when deciding on the final punishment. Prior to this incident, Ray Rice was the one Raven that everybody would say is most involved in the community with his anti-bullying campaign/charity. He loads backpacks for kids who can’t afford school supplies. He does plenty to help wherever he can. As for previous legal issues- squeaky clean. He’s never had a run in with the law. He’s never had any issues with the league. And testimonies- his wife came up with him on his behalf to testify and beg the commish to not further tarnish his image.

    I’m not saying it’s right. I’m just saying this would have at least given some more insight into the decision. I honestly feel like they take these things into consideration. If Rice had a previous DUI or maybe Janae left him or something of that nature? I’d bet 4-6 would have been more likely.

    On another note, where the hell was this outrage when James Harrison broke into his gf’s house, snapped her phone so she couldn’t call 911 and slapped her silly? Or Brandon Marshall only getting 1 game with his DV issues? Or Dez Bryant? Why is Rice getting so much more criticism and scrutiny than any other in previous years?

  88. tindeaux says: Jul 28, 2014 11:58 AM

    the woman beater should be suspended for half a season!

  89. horsepedlr says: Jul 28, 2014 12:02 PM

    i’ll just bet washington from the cards gets the big big hammer because of this outcry for rice. goody will have to make up for it and d wash is gonna be the sacraficial lamb. bet he gets another year susp.

  90. chip56 says: Jul 28, 2014 12:08 PM

    Here’s the thing that really stands out to me. Greenberg isn’t new to this job. If he needed Twitter to tell him after the fact that the interview didn’t answer any questions then why didn’t he realize that while he was conducting the interview?

    The simplest answer I can come up with is that Greenberg knew how ineffective the interview was but stuck with it because ESPN is terrified of the NFL pulling MNF.

  91. nvl004 says: Jul 28, 2014 12:15 PM

    3 groups saw the video inside the elevator where she became unconscious. The police; who let her go home with him That same night. The prosecutor; who saw it fit to let him serve his punishment via fine and counseling. And Roger Goodell and his top guys who saw it fit to suspend him for 2 games. Maybe, and I am not defending domestic abuse, just maybe the video inside the elevator isn’t that bad.

  92. olcap says: Jul 28, 2014 12:16 PM

    Goodell: Adolpho, go out there and explain pleeeeaaze. I’m afraid all the people hate me now, *sob*

  93. nvl004 says: Jul 28, 2014 12:17 PM

    Everyone else who didn’t actually see the video thinks he should be suspended forever and exiled to Elba.

  94. jimthebuilder27 says: Jul 28, 2014 12:17 PM

    What a joke.

    I guess Roger a Goodell really has 4 favorite teams. The 49ers, Jets, Bears, AND Ravens.

  95. allseeingone says: Jul 28, 2014 12:27 PM

    I’m certain after Roger explains it the reasons will be as clear as a teenager’s face.

  96. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 28, 2014 12:33 PM

    the entire NFL discipline policy is ridiculous. How the NFLPA agreed to this is beyond me.

    Players shouldnt even be tested for marijuana. It provides no competitive edge. What is the point?

    For performance enhancing drugs i get that. Competitive advantage.

    This is why the NFLPA doesnt want Goddell to have the only say. He is a complete idiot. Owners are criminals and their actions affect people negatively and he does nothing to them. I get that he works for the owners. What a lame argument that is. He allegedly represents the “shield”. Hes a joke.

    As far as the Rice incident, it definitely looks bad PR wise when Josh Gordon is getting suspended a year for marijuana use and being a repeat offender, and a player assaults his fiance and gets 2 games.

    The punishments for these arent even close to making sense. And save the its in the CBA lame copout. It shouldnt be in there in the 1st place. Talk about bringing negative attention to rhe shield. Goodell and the owners tarnish it far more than players ever will.

  97. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 28, 2014 12:34 PM

    I believe Birch was ordered to do that interview to try and justify the position not agreeing with the punishment himself. Goodell is a coward for hiding and not doing the interview himself.

    You would think also Smith and the NFLPA would make a comment but they are hypocrites as well.

  98. randomcommenter says: Jul 28, 2014 12:35 PM

    The answer is 2 games is the most they thought they could suspend him without the union challenging their theoretically unlimited power to suspend players.

    Thats the truth but nobody wants to say it or hear it.

  99. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 28, 2014 12:37 PM

    Im all for if it has nothing to do with football or the sport of football dont punish it. Simple as that. The owners are the most morally bankrupt parties in the NFL. All they are, are greedy money grubbing corrupt scamming jerks.

  100. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 28, 2014 12:40 PM

    Bring back Tags. At least he made sense and both the owners and players respected him. Goodell is a power mongering, overpaid, gravy-training moron.

  101. 4wheeldrifter says: Jul 28, 2014 12:41 PM

    Is Birch’s head up Goodell’s anal canal to where he can actually speak to Roger? Ben Rothlisberger was suspended for 6 games (Later reduced to 4) for ALLEGED misconduct. We’ve all seen the video of Rice dragging his unconscious wife out of the elevator by her hair. Rice gets a two game suspension. WHOOPEE! Justice has been served, right Roger???

  102. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 28, 2014 12:49 PM

    I would love to be a fly on the wall in the league office. I wonder if Goodell is going to come down on Birch for the failed interview or own up to his screw-up and put his face out their for ridicule.

    I still cant get past the Ravens sham of a press conference and harbaugh’s ridiculous defense of Rice and now this.

  103. bonniebengal says: Jul 28, 2014 12:52 PM

    Even if Rice’s wife begged Goodell for leniency, Goodell should have thought about the precedent he was setting. There is a lot of rumbling that is going to turn into an anti-NFL tsunami pretty soon. The goose that laid the golden egg is riding on that tsunami.

  104. spellmethis says: Jul 28, 2014 12:59 PM

    The thing is Rice’s suspension is consistent with recent suspensions for the same issue. Hell, Marshall got only 3 games for his third domestic violence offense. Comparing Roethlisberger’s suspension may be apples-to-oranges in that it was about rape and not domestic violence. A crappy distinction regardless. But it’s not that Goodell went easy on Rice specifically, it’s on par for other players with domestic violence violations as well. Media outcry is riding on the fact everyone saw a video in this case when the other instances weren’t on video. And speaking of the video, only Goodell, prosecutors, PD, and Rice’s lawyers saw the tape from inside the elevator. Probably too much of a coincidence that PD let them leave together (which never happens), prosecutors went easy, and Goodell didn’t make an example of him. I bet the video isn’t just Rice being a villain. Not excusing him in any way but there’s something more there, something Goodell most likely didn’t feel comfortable persecuting him for.

  105. r8rsfan says: Jul 28, 2014 1:03 PM

    Ray should just retire now, because his legacy is set now. He will be remembered as the guy who knocked out his wife. And the silly “punishment” only cements that legacy.

  106. floreskins says: Jul 28, 2014 1:07 PM

    This is awesome.

  107. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 1:08 PM

    Humor me with an attempt at objectivity on this. Obviously the punishment doesn’t make sense to most. Seems likely that their is an explanation. What if – the ‘other video’ (if it exists) portrays Janay horribly? Drunk, belligerent, violent, out of control, and finally Rice retaliates or protects himself? Rice wouldn’t want this released, making his wife look awful. The league would be crushed if they released the tape or referenced her behavior as ‘victim blaming’ is PC taboo. The cops, the DA, and the league settled on two games. There has to be more to the story. None of you genuinely believe there is a league bias towards the Ravens, right (other than the knucklehead conspiracy theorists). So what is the explanation? To me, this just makes sense as a possibility.

  108. ravensbob says: Jul 28, 2014 1:11 PM

    Ravens should have cut Rice.

  109. eepobee says: Jul 28, 2014 1:16 PM

    birch didn’t evade, he said the NFL doesn’t want to explain because that would require them divulging information about the case that those involved don’t want divulged.

    seems simple enough people; the NFL has the facts and made a decision based on them. we don’t, so we’re in no position to criticize.

  110. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 28, 2014 1:18 PM

    fivechampionships says:
    Jul 28, 2014 1:08 PM

    Humor me with an attempt at objectivity on this. Obviously the punishment doesn’t make sense to most. Seems likely that their is an explanation. What if – the ‘other video’ (if it exists) portrays Janay horribly? Drunk, belligerent, violent, out of control, and finally Rice retaliates or protects himself? Rice wouldn’t want this released, making his wife look awful. The league would be crushed if they released the tape or referenced her behavior as ‘victim blaming’ is PC taboo. The cops, the DA, and the league settled on two games. There has to be more to the story. None of you genuinely believe there is a league bias towards the Ravens, right (other than the knucklehead conspiracy theorists). So what is the explanation? To me, this just makes sense as a possibility.

    Steven A is that you?

  111. politicallyincorrect says: Jul 28, 2014 1:22 PM

    imagine how dirty you would feel working for Roger… and constantly having to dodge Kraft pulling him around on that leash

  112. floreskins says: Jul 28, 2014 1:23 PM

    Drunk, belligerent, violent, out of control, and finally Rice retaliates or protects himself?
    —————————–
    You’re telling me Ray Rice needed to knock out his fiancee to protect himself? a 210 lb professional athlete vs. a 110lb drunk woman…This may be the dumbest line of thinking I’ve seen on here, and that is really saying something.

  113. thejuddstir says: Jul 28, 2014 1:28 PM

    Beat a dog and get 2 yrs suspension; beat finance/wife and forfeit some pocket change……..I guess we’re all morons for not being able to understand the logic in all this.

  114. bsaundaz says: Jul 28, 2014 1:30 PM

    if we as fans took a stand to not watch or attend games until someone truly capable of running the league was appointed commissioner, we have the power. it is OUR money which makes all sports, ie entertainment go round. without us there is nothing the owners, nor the players can do. force the leagues hand, make better judgements. Irsay should NOT be allowed to own a team after multiple DUIs and illegal prescription pills and 21k in cash. Rice should have minimum 4 game suspension.

    Athletes and owners feel like they are above the law due to OUR interest.

    Ray Rice is a disgrace to men, one of the first things you learn is to never lay a hand on a woman, especially the mother of your children.

  115. belicheathater says: Jul 28, 2014 1:36 PM

    Getoffmylawn! says:
    Jul 28, 2014 10:27 AM
    I hope that Ray Rice knocks out Goodell’s wife next. Then maybe he would get the suspension he deserved.

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    I doubt that. I think Goodell would like that.

  116. melikefootball says: Jul 28, 2014 1:36 PM

    Two cop outs in two weeks by the NFL. Becomes apparent that being accused has more wait to the NFL than a video.

  117. CKL says: Jul 28, 2014 1:37 PM

    politicallyincorrect says:
    Jul 28, 2014 10:20 AM
    I do wonder how the negotiations with Roger went… dude paid himself $43M officially last year

    Goodell and Kraft are in this for themselves…. killing the league
    __________________________________
    You always have to take a swing at the Pats. It’s flattering how thoroughly they are in your head, even though you are always 100% wrong with your complaints. Your comment here is like a line of pork in a political bill: you’re getting reps for what you said about Goodell but sneaked your little anti Pats diatribe in there. If Kraft was out for just himself, he wouldn’t have gotten so may kudos from players union reps like Jeff Saturday on how he helped broker the CBA. It’s one think I really like about him (and wish politicians would do this also): he’s able to negotiate even when it isn’t 100% about his interests.

    I bet Irsay is breathing a sigh of relief though: holding NFL administration personnel to a higher standard than they do players may mean he has to stay away from his team for a whole 3-4 games.

    Rice’s wife was wrong to attack him if that is what happened, no doubt about it. But Rice didn’t have to escalate the situation by being physically violent in return. He has a huge strength advantage over her and even moreso if she were drunk. It’s gross that Harbaugh could call this a “mistake” though when it was horrible judgment. He shouldn’t have made a single comment past “we will let the league handle it” if he was going to botch it this badly.

  118. youpeopleareallthesame says: Jul 28, 2014 1:39 PM

    But…. but… guys, Ray Rice is really really sorry!

  119. honeybadger14 says: Jul 28, 2014 1:41 PM

    The concussions made me do it.

  120. froggycrapper says: Jul 28, 2014 1:42 PM

    Everyone on here that wants to rant and rave, you are missing something. Ray Rice is not the first players to punch a woman. Why are you not saying that Goodell favors the 49ers? Ahmad Brooks knocked a woman out and got a zero game suspension. Just in the past 18 months these guys all were arrested for physical assault on a woman

    Greg Hardy, Panthers
    Pacman Jones, Bengals
    Daryl Washington, Redskins
    Quentin Groves, Browns
    Amari Spievey, Lions
    Leroy Hill, Seahawks

    None were suspended. Does Goodell like those teams more than the Ravens. You all sound stupid.

  121. CKL says: Jul 28, 2014 1:42 PM

    thejuddstir says:
    Jul 28, 2014 1:28 PM
    Beat a dog and get 2 yrs suspension; beat finance/wife and forfeit some pocket change……..I guess we’re all morons for not being able to understand the logic in all this.
    _________________________________
    Ignorant comment. Vick served 0 time for murdering innocent animals. His time served was for interstate gambling, which is why he shouldn’t have been allowed back in the NFL if they were actually serious about their hatred of gambling. But they are not, they are hypocrites about it which they have proven with this and many other actions.

  122. nvl004 says: Jul 28, 2014 1:49 PM

    Why is there no public outcry for the Police officers who let her go home with him that night? Why is there no public outcry for the Prosecutor who felt that counseling was punishment enough?

    Law enforcement agencies are responsible for combating domestic violence in America not a football league.

  123. uglydingo says: Jul 28, 2014 1:58 PM

    Adolpho is probably one of the Commissioner’s Yes men and spin doctors. The NFL is a money making machine and Goodell is totally consumed by further revenue growth matters like LA and London.
    Every reasonable person can see that Ray Rice got a very light sentance (96% of NFL fans can see it, the Baltimore fans are delighted). But the Commissioner is incapable of ever accepting any criticism. It seems significant that he delegated this dirty task to Adolpho, who needs to be replaced if he can’t handle Mike Greenberg questions.

  124. largent80 says: Jul 28, 2014 1:58 PM

    The difference between the Ray Rice situation and all of the other ones is existence of video proof of the altercation. The general public got to watch Ray knock out his wife, then drag her from the elevator.

    Now, we all know the league doesn’t really care what goes on between their players and their spouses, but they are smart enough to realize that they need to give the APPEARANCE of caring.

    And they also don’t want to set a precedent where the next altercation with video evidence means suspending a key player for a long period of time. What if the next one was ???

    So they stick their thumb in the air, whaddya say 2 games? Sounds good amirite? And then there are a bunch of yesses around the conference table, and here we are.

  125. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 2:01 PM

    Drunk, belligerent, violent, out of control, and finally Rice retaliates or protects himself?
    —————————–
    You’re telling me Ray Rice needed to knock out his fiancee to protect himself? a 210 lb professional athlete vs. a 110lb drunk woman…This may be the dumbest line of thinking I’ve seen on here, and that is really saying something.

    If you actually read the comment, I never said he ‘needed’ to respond the way he did. I merely stated that there are other considerations contributing the punishment being less than what must feel is appropriate. Of course Rice was wrong to respond with violence. And he’s been punished.

    And thanks for pointing out that you believe I am ‘dumb’. What’s your explanation, genius? ‘The league loves the Ravens’? ‘Goodell is stupid’? Let me know your theory as to why the punishment is light, one that actually makes sense in the real world. Of course they knew the response to the two games would be outrage. Unless you are one of those on this site that actually believe the league is full of idiots and that you are smarter than all of them…

  126. jm91rs says: Jul 28, 2014 2:05 PM

    I wish instead of referring to it as assault on his wife we could just say “knocking his wife out cold then dragging her seemingly lifeless body out of a casino elevator”

  127. ktimmmtb says: Jul 28, 2014 2:12 PM

    Let’s see how man Ravens fans applaud him on his first run of the first home game.

  128. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 2:20 PM

    If NFL fans didnt cheer for criminals or otherwise morally corrupt players the stadiums would be awfully quiet.

  129. petehimself2112 says: Jul 28, 2014 2:20 PM

    How many games did DEZ BRYANT get for beating his mother? I believe he got nothing. Past suspensions says they took a step forward. Stop comparing josh gordon he’s been busted so many times.

  130. tomtravis76 says: Jul 28, 2014 2:21 PM

    Another case of the public trying to execute someone based on partial information.

    The NFL really doesn’t have to explain anything to its fans in regards to their actions regarding somebody’s personal life. If you don’t like it, stop watching the NFL, stop buying merchandise,etc.

    You know maybe there is a bigger issue with their personal life and Rice is being a man and taking all of the heat to protect his wife? Just as easy of a theory based on opinion of a situation that the public doesn’t have all of the facts.

  131. floreskins says: Jul 28, 2014 2:28 PM

    If you actually read the comment, I never said he ‘needed’ to respond the way he did. I merely stated that there are other considerations contributing the punishment being less than what must feel is appropriate.
    —————————–
    Here’s the reason it’s dumb. You’re effectively saying the punishment is lighter, because the NFL made the determination that Rice’s wife was partially at fault for getting knocked out, because she was “belligerent, drunk, etc”, and “Rice just reacted or defended himself” . It’s just an asinine argument. If you wanted to make an argument about his lack of transgressions in the past being the reasoning for the light punishment then I think there is some merit to that. The drunk wife video cover-up, though? Not so much.

  132. captbuff says: Jul 28, 2014 2:28 PM

    Isn’t it obvious guys? The NFL knew if they suspended him for too long, he’d get angry and go home and knock out his wife, then she’d be hurt and they’d have to suspend him again. Its a vicious cycle. And obviously the commish is looking out for women in this case, not the NFL’s bottom line.

  133. exhelodrvr says: Jul 28, 2014 2:42 PM

    Bottom line is that there is no way to make an accurate assessment if this punishment is appropriate without having access to all the evidence.

  134. Bull Rush says: Jul 28, 2014 2:43 PM

    “The suspension was disgusting and not the defending of it is getting even more disgusting.. He knocked her out…. Anybody else would have been fired!”
    ~~~~
    This is the logic I don’t get. Think about it. No. If an average business person were in the same situation it wouldn’t be news and the person would still have their job. People get arrested for bad stuff all the time, you don’t see them all losing their jobs. Their employer would consider it a personal matter.

  135. sopadegato says: Jul 28, 2014 2:43 PM

    Take a shot every time you read some random comment about how Goodell is the root of all evil and so on, like he’s not just a puppet of the owners.

    This isn’t MLB, where the commissioner can screw entire teams, cities, and fanbases and get away with it scott free.

  136. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 2:47 PM

    Here’s the reason it’s dumb. You’re effectively saying the punishment is lighter, because the NFL made the determination that Rice’s wife was partially at fault for getting knocked out, because she was “belligerent, drunk, etc”, and “Rice just reacted or defended himself” . It’s just an asinine argument. If you wanted to make an argument about his lack of transgressions in the past being the reasoning for the light punishment then I think there is some merit to that. The drunk wife video cover-up, though? Not so much.
    __________________________

    I disagree with you. I think it makes a lot of sense to give a lessor penalty if she was the aggressor. The world is running with the narrative that he mercillessly beat her. If this just isnt true, you would get the situation where the world thinks the punishment is too light – which is precisely where we are.

    And you never offered an alternative theory. Why was Goodell so ‘lenient’ if I am wrong?

  137. thundersnacker says: Jul 28, 2014 2:48 PM

    eaglesnoles05 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:48 AM

    Why don’t the Ravens clear it up for us and add an extra 6 games to the toll?

    Exactly. The Ravens could quell the controversy with a team exercised suspension. But they won’t.

  138. sbchampsagain says: Jul 28, 2014 3:01 PM

    The NFL and the NJ juduciary sytstem have the full story.

    We do not.

    It’s none of our business, especially since the victim doesn’t want the info out there.

  139. lions4lo says: Jul 28, 2014 3:01 PM

    You know, one of the craziest ironies is that Marijuana usage is legal is some states and obviously other states will follow suit. Knocking a woman out cold will NEVER be legal…

  140. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 3:07 PM

    Maybe the facts dictate that the two games was an appropriate punishment?

    Oh wait, doesnt seem like many commentors are actually interested in the facts. It’s much easier to assume we know more than the people that are actually responsible for evaluating the situation…

  141. footballchic777 says: Jul 28, 2014 3:07 PM

    This interview was a total joke! I’m not even sure why he bothered accepting the interview. He did more harm to “the shield” by talking than just keeping his mouth shut! Either answer questions, or say no to the interview!

  142. lowesislander says: Jul 28, 2014 3:13 PM

    Goodell will ignore/refute/deny all questions pertaining to this situation until it blows over. By then everyone will have moved onto the next Major Scandal.

  143. floreskins says: Jul 28, 2014 3:21 PM

    fivechampionships says:
    Jul 28, 2014 2:47 PM
    Here’s the reason it’s dumb. You’re effectively saying the punishment is lighter, because the NFL made the determination that Rice’s wife was partially at fault for getting knocked out, because she was “belligerent, drunk, etc”, and “Rice just reacted or defended himself” . It’s just an asinine argument. If you wanted to make an argument about his lack of transgressions in the past being the reasoning for the light punishment then I think there is some merit to that. The drunk wife video cover-up, though? Not so much.
    __________________________

    I disagree with you. I think it makes a lot of sense to give a lessor penalty if she was the aggressor. The world is running with the narrative that he mercillessly beat her. If this just isnt true, you would get the situation where the world thinks the punishment is too light – which is precisely where we are.

    And you never offered an alternative theory. Why was Goodell so ‘lenient’ if I am wrong?
    ———————————
    I certainly offered another theory. Goodell viewed Rice’s past of no legal trouble along with lack of actual conviction of anything in this matter as the reason for the leniency. I disagree with it, but it’s possible. You think that a tape showing her flailing drunkenly at Rice, and him throwing a counter left-hook that puts her to sleep is the reasoning for the leniency? I don’t get how that makes Rice look any better. It doesn’t matter if he knocked her out with 1 punch or 100, the end result is he beat a woman unconscious.

  144. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 3:32 PM

    I agree she was unconscious. I disagree that there has been evidence available that he beat her into that state. Of course everyone claims it to be fact, but there are other plausible explanations when you consider the effects of alchol. Maybe he pushed her and she fell? I don’ seem to remember any signs of swelling or bruising on the police report. But none of this fits the public’s story line, so it is disregarded.

  145. bengalskuta82 says: Jul 28, 2014 3:34 PM

    Wow! Looks like ALL of us fans have agreed on one thing.
    The NFLs hypocrisy. I do think the Ravens can shine here by benching Rice for 2 more games. I mean, someone has to challenge the Commish and the V.P and who better to do it than a NFL franchise.
    I think the Nation will stand behind the Ravens. Majority would rule here because lets be honest, the NFL is all about money and Goodell will have no choice but to surrender and admit that he was wrong.

  146. cueghost says: Jul 28, 2014 3:40 PM

    I want Goodell FIRED!!!

  147. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 28, 2014 3:40 PM

    Ray Rice got suspended 2 games for knocking a woman unconscious.

    Terrell Pryor got suspended 5 games for receiving free tattoos…. while still in college.

  148. ravensfranzy says: Jul 28, 2014 3:49 PM

    The real question is: Who names their kid Adolpho?

  149. silverandblack052099 says: Jul 28, 2014 3:50 PM

    1. Lets stop comparing the Ray Rice suspension to that of Josh Gordon. Josh Gordon got 2 DUIs and failed at least 3 drug tests in under one year. It’s like comparing day to night or apples to oranges

    2. For those suggesting the Ravens should tack on additional games to Rice’s suspension, they CAN’T. It is part of the CBA that a player can not be suspended for an infraction if the league has already taken action against the player.

    That being said in no way do I feel the suspension to Ray Rice is long enough. He should have received a minimum 4 games. Let’s not forget Terelle Pryor’s 5 game suspension for violations at Ohio State, But RG passed it off as an infraction against the process that allows a player to enter the supplemental draft. He didn’t break any NFL rules,but RG doesn’t like him and doesn’t like the Raiders. How that suspension was ever allowed still baffles me to this day.

  150. pcbgravens says: Jul 28, 2014 4:00 PM

    Look, he ONLY got 2 games because it was HIS FIRST OFFENSE. That is why. period . #pcbg

  151. floreskins says: Jul 28, 2014 4:03 PM

    fivechampionships says:
    Jul 28, 2014 3:32 PM
    I agree she was unconscious. I disagree that there has been evidence available that he beat her into that state. Of course everyone claims it to be fact, but there are other plausible explanations when you consider the effects of alchol. Maybe he pushed her and she fell? I don’ seem to remember any signs of swelling or bruising on the police report. But none of this fits the public’s story line, so it is disregarded.
    —————————————-
    If he didn’t punch her, then don’t you think he would have said something to that effect by now? It’s not like this is an ongoing investigation anymore. If the whole world is unjustly calling you a wife beater would you just stay quiet and let that be your legacy?

  152. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 4:20 PM

    Umm. Back to my original point. Rice did wrong, no question, but he did much less than the public outcry is describing. He is choosing to remain quiet about it because putting forth his story (or the video) would be dragging his wife through the mud (pun intended). He is choosing to deal with the public thinking whatever they want. The cops, the prosecutor and Goodell all see this as well. They have decided to punish Rice for his role, which was less than the public believe it to be, and deal with the public outcry rather than making her look bad (or worse).

  153. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 28, 2014 4:30 PM

    pcbgravens says:
    Jul 28, 2014 4:00 PM

    Look, he ONLY got 2 games because it was HIS FIRST OFFENSE. That is why. period . #pcbg
    ________________________

    Terrell Pryor got more than twice that for something that not only was legal, but also non violent. And he wasn’t even in the league yet.
    #1stoffenseargumentisweak

  154. boonevol says: Jul 28, 2014 4:38 PM

    “In fact, we should all write to our own club owners and threaten to take our money elsewhere. After all, that is the bottom line. They could care less about us unless we stop buying the product.”

    Chuckle

    Go ahead. Good luck.

    Snicker

  155. superslugg says: Jul 28, 2014 4:50 PM

    he did no wrong. That’s funny. He basically plead guilty to aggravated assault. If he was innocent, this would be a simple case win. His gf probably married him to keep him from going to jail for 3-5yrs since she can’t be made to testify against her husband. In my opinion, by the time domestic violence like this is spilling out into public places, it’s been going on a lot longer behind closed doors.

    Disclaimer: I would never hit my wife and I would never drag my wife like a bag of garbage down a hallway. So maybe I can’t relate as well as you apologists for this behavior.

  156. bobsnygiants says: Jul 28, 2014 4:53 PM

    Goodell should be fired , the man has no business being where he is. This man makes million for what, supporting KO.

  157. kando53 says: Jul 28, 2014 4:53 PM

    The Raven’s organization is just as complicit in this as the NFL is. They could have easily suspended and fined Rice on their own. They should be confronted on this issue. Their coach showed how lightly they consider the issue with what he stated the other day.

  158. paulhs94 says: Jul 28, 2014 6:22 PM

    I’ll give you three reasons why Rice’s suspension was light:

    1) Rice had no prior criminal record until this incident.

    2) He volunteered to go through a pre-trial intervention program with his wife.

    3) He has done extensive charity work throughout the Baltimore area.

    While there is no defending what Rice did, you have to take these three reasons into account when talking about his suspension. Before the domestic violence incident, Rice had a clean record. You cannot compare his suspension to that of players who knowingly and willingly violated the drug policies of the NFL multiple times. The players who got the lengthy suspensions for smoking marijuana and using drugs deserved it because they violated the rule multiple times in a row.

  159. simonator917 says: Jul 28, 2014 7:38 PM

    If the recording actually exonerates Ray Rice why haven’t they made it available to the public?

  160. fivechampionships says: Jul 28, 2014 8:23 PM

    Because they will be bashed by everyone for ‘excusing’ his actions and blaming the victim if they show that she was a significant aggressor. Better pr move for everyone for him to bite the bullet…

  161. dallashomer says: Jul 28, 2014 8:38 PM

    Time to replace to Goodell. Seriously.

  162. ugadogs21 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:04 PM

    Newsflash, the only thing dumber is that the woman moved forward and married Rice.

    I bet her parents are losing sleep everyday. I know I would be.

  163. iowahbr says: Jul 29, 2014 7:38 AM

    Ray needs a year off.

  164. fazsha says: Jul 29, 2014 3:19 PM

    I’m the only one supporting a two game suspension, and here’s why. The woman pleaded with Goodell to easy on Ray: why? Because costing him money will also cost HER money. Why do you want to further punish the victim? Second, the charges were dropped. Why don’t you look to law enforcement to administer the penalty? Why did the NFL “let us down” but the police didn’t? Third, she’s staying with him. Did she “let us all down” by not leaving him? Did she let women down? Let’s leave that up to her.

    Some say “It wasn’t enough”. No punishment is ‘enough’, if the goal is to ‘get the message through’. Obviously Ray wouldn’t have done it at all with a sane mind; he did it by reaction. No one says ‘hmm, how much would I be willing to pay to hit this woman’.

    No, two games is fine. Unlike steroids, it doesn’t make things unfair on the field. The marijuana punishments are way too severe. He got a punishment, and any punishment is totally arbitrary, there’s nothing magical about 4 games. I’m moving on from this.

  165. iowahbr says: Jul 29, 2014 4:37 PM

    the more info that comes out the more it looks like none of our biz. Especially if the victim wanted this type of result

  166. 4wheeldrifter says: Jul 29, 2014 4:54 PM

    So, let me get this straight. If Rice hypothetically had assaulted one of his children, and the mother refused to press charges due to the loss of income, that would be okay in your mind, right? And do you have any idea of many women stay with abusive mates for the same reason ($$$$$) you quote?

  167. pglht says: Jul 31, 2014 2:49 PM

    grinhea said “However, nobody really seems to be mad at the fact that the authorities are not stepping in and doing more about this. It is THEIR job to protect women from guys like this and he got off way too easy from a legal standpoint. I think that’s the sad part.

    Its also sad that his wife is blinded by his millions and deciding to stick around…hopefully her plan was to marry him just to divorce him and take half.”

    No it’s authorities job to enforce the law, which they didn’t do by dropping charges against Ray Rice’s wife. They were BOTH wrong. 40% of domestic violence incidents are started by women, but they are rarely held accountable for their actions simply because they are women.

    It’s sad he still decided to marry a woman who obviously has a temper issue and the reality is marriage is one of the worst decisions a man can make considering all the divorce and child custody laws heavily favor women..even if Ray got her to sign a prenup. Judges have shown before they don’t respect contracts or men and typically ignore the prenups

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