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Buffalo backlash building against Bon Jovi

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As the deadline arrives on Tuesday for potential buyers of the Bills to formally express interest in acquiring the franchise, one of the biggest names of the bunch faces a building backlash in Buffalo.

As explained by Eric Adelson of Yahoo! Sports, Jon Bon Jovi currently doesn’t have many fans in the city where the Bills currently reside, due to the perception that Bon Jovi’s Toronto-based ownership group would move the team there.

“It’s a big threat,” 49-year-old truck driver Charles Pellien told Adelson. “He’s aligned with guys from Toronto. They’ve got more money than everybody else. We don’t believe they will keep the Bills in Buffalo. Why would they?”

From a perception standpoint, he’s right.  If Bon Jovi were aligned with a group based in Los Angeles, it would be a given that the group wants to move the team there.  With Bon Jovi, a New Jersey native, becoming the front man for Toronto money, it’s impossible to not think that Bon Jovi’s group would move the team to Ontario at the first legal opportunity.

Pellien has organized a grass-roots group to keep Bon Jovi’s group from winning the team.  Coupled with Bon Jovi’s ongoing silence about his plans or intentions, it makes it hard for anyone to believe the reports that Bon Jovi and company intend to keep the team in Buffalo.

“It’s the Buffalo Bills, and they will do everything they can to make that work there,” consultant to the Toronto group recently told the Buffalo News.

Which doesn’t make it any better.

“They will do everything they can to make that work there” possibly means, “They’ll dog paddle in Buffalo, saying all the right until the lease allows them to load up the Mayflowers and declare, ‘Well, we did everything possible to make it work there.  Bye.’”

Bon Jovi, who seems to be doing all the right things behind the scenes to position himself to have a legitimate shot at the team, should have been doing all the right things in front of the scenes, too.  Free concerts.  Donations to local charities.  Other public appearances.  Radio interviews.

For a guy who has made millions and millions working the crowd, he has blown it on this one.  His silence has invited suspicion, and as the suspicion mounts and the silence continues, the suspicion gets even stronger.

At this point, nothing short of a public group hug involving Bon Jovi, Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, and Bruce Smith will commence the process of getting folks in Buffalo to believe that Bon Jovi is buying the Bills not because they’re in Buffalo but because they can be taken, eventually, to Toronto.

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  1. honkeyt says: Jul 29, 2014 10:07 AM

    That chic has a 5 O’clock shadow.

  2. skudz592 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:11 AM

    Stay away from our team you no talent douche!

  3. deadlevelbest says: Jul 29, 2014 10:11 AM

    #BanJovi

  4. skudz592 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:11 AM

    Stay away from Buffalo!

  5. fitzmagic1212 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:11 AM

    pegula will own the bills. can’t move the bills for 5 years because of the lease the league isn’t going to have a lame duck team for that long. wouldn’t make sense

  6. MichaelEdits says: Jul 29, 2014 10:14 AM

    I wasn’t aware that Bon Jovi had many fans in any city.

  7. sambaughslingers says: Jul 29, 2014 10:16 AM

    “For a guy who has made millions and millions working the crowd, he has blown it on this one.”

    …has he blown it if his group does intend to move the team to Toronto. If that was the case in five years there would be another article on this site ripping him for doing live concerts, radio appearances, charitable donations all pledging to keep the team in Buffalo only to then move it at the first chance.

  8. acgorski says: Jul 29, 2014 10:16 AM

    The moment Bon Jovi purchases the team, is the moment his life will be living on a prayer.

  9. wheels579 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:16 AM

    It would be career suicide for him as a performer to take an NFL team out of the United States.

  10. justintuckrule says: Jul 29, 2014 10:17 AM

    Nothing to worry about for Jon Bon. Since when does anyone care about the fans one iota.

  11. weepingjebus says: Jul 29, 2014 10:17 AM

    Moving an NFL team to Toronto would cut its value in half immediately. If investors think that’s a good idea, they’ve got bigger problems.

  12. jetblackninja says: Jul 29, 2014 10:21 AM

    Not good news for Buffalo. The NFL would support a move to Toronto in a heartbeat, painting it as the first step to making the NFL a “multinational” entity.

  13. pete2112 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:23 AM

    LOL @ that picture. I wish Bon Jovi would just go back to New Jersey.

  14. tbmoore13 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:23 AM

    Buffalo is still in the NFL?

  15. crazemastercraze says: Jul 29, 2014 10:24 AM

    Toronto: fourth biggest economic revenue producer in North America. Buffalo:4457th

  16. finfan87 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:24 AM

    At least with Bon Jovi there’s little to no risk of moving to LA. The same can’t be said for all of the other bidders.

  17. jagsfan2012 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:24 AM

    The Bills need to stay in Buffalo. It’s as simple as that.

  18. jtm18113 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:25 AM

    Just changing the channel when he comes on the radio doesn’t seem like enough of a stand.

  19. jtm18113 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:26 AM

    The Bills obviously make money in WNY, how greedy does one have to be to move them to a city that has no desire to have them there?

  20. billswillnevermove says: Jul 29, 2014 10:26 AM

    It’s a big threat,” 49-year-old truck driver Charles Pellien told Adelson. “He’s aligned with guys from Toronto. They’ve got more money than everybody else. We don’t believe they will keep the Bills in Buffalo. Why would they?”
    __________________________________
    Wrong……….that group does not have more money than Pegula and it’s really not even that close. People really need to get their facts straight.

  21. doubleogator says: Jul 29, 2014 10:27 AM

    Still can’t understand how this no talent person was able to make millions…

  22. seahawkswilson says: Jul 29, 2014 10:27 AM

    Sounds like Bon Jovi stealing OKC Thunder playbook on how to steal a team from a city.

    1979 NBA Champions Seattle Suuuuuuuuuupersonics

  23. adoombray says: Jul 29, 2014 10:29 AM

    Manufactured conflict. Come on people, Toronto is not that far away, if the two cities share the team it’s not that big of a deal, you share the exact same land with the only difference being lines on some map and some jerks inbetween who will demand to see your papers, who have convinced you that you need them. Toronto and Buffallo are basically the same area if you think globally instead of with petty nationalism. If that’s what it takes to keep your team, then put the pitch forks down. Nobody is ever bringing another professional team to that city and this would still be a way better deal than losing it to LA or something.

  24. nowillrepeat says: Jul 29, 2014 10:29 AM

    Sounds like the good folks of Buffalo are livin’ on a prayer these days.

  25. micknangold says: Jul 29, 2014 10:29 AM

    At least if they go to Toronto it won’t screw the divisions up. Other than that I just don’t care.

  26. mtheparrothead says: Jul 29, 2014 10:30 AM

    Shad khan. Example of what an owner needs to do to show his loyalty to the city in which his team is located. Had to be someone, guess it has to be the bills.

  27. nepatriotslaughatyourpatheticteam says: Jul 29, 2014 10:31 AM

    Move the Bills to LA. At least then maybe the Pats will have competition.

  28. lastdukestreetking says: Jul 29, 2014 10:32 AM

    I wouldn’t want Bon Jovi involved with anything I’m interested in.

  29. whatnojets says: Jul 29, 2014 10:36 AM

    If the Bills move to Canada there will be no NFL team playing in The Great State of New York!

  30. mrbgood315 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:37 AM

    Hey BJ…WE DON’T BELIEVE YOU! Keep your dang hands off our team!

    Sincerely,
    Bills Fans Everywhere

  31. joetoronto says: Jul 29, 2014 10:37 AM

    “It’s a big threat,” 49-year-old truck driver Charles Pellien told Adelson. “He’s aligned with guys from Toronto. They’ve got more money than everybody else. We don’t believe they will keep the Bills in Buffalo. Why would they?”
    ***********************************************
    At least this disgruntled fan has accepted reality, the Toronto group DOES have the most money by far and will offer the most money by far.

    Someone like Pegula isn’t even in the same ballpark.

    It’s over, time embrace the Toronto Bills. :)

  32. flash1287 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:38 AM

    BILLS
    MAFIA
    BLOWS

  33. dickshotdogs says: Jul 29, 2014 10:39 AM

    Shot to the heart, and you’re to blame…….

  34. greenwhodat26 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:39 AM

    The NBA basically bullied their way into making/helping the (then) New Orleans Hornets stay in N.O. The NFL should do the same for Buffalo.

  35. baltimoremikeg says: Jul 29, 2014 10:41 AM

    Bon Jovi has as much business owning a sports team as Jennifer Lopez.

  36. tincansailor981 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:44 AM

    The Toronto Bills? That doesn’t even sound right. Keep the NFL in America and let our neighbors to the north enjoy the CFL.

  37. buddysguys says: Jul 29, 2014 10:45 AM

    the Toronto Group has already blown this deal. They have more leaks in their circle than a screen door on a submarine.

  38. wtfchiefs says: Jul 29, 2014 10:47 AM

    He needs to just stick to what he knows best, making late middle age women rock out.

  39. destructicus says: Jul 29, 2014 10:47 AM

    As a Torontonian, I will say I believe moving the team to Toronto wouldn’t be the best course of action.

    The best course of action would be moving the team to Niagara Falls, on either side of the border. Everybody wins!

    If it’s on the States side then free agents won’t have to worry about the difference in taxation when considering signing. If it’s the Canadian side then the beer will be better.

    Any Torontonian knows that it’s worth the drive to Orchard Park for a true NFL experience, and seeing a game at the Rogers Center just lacks heart.

  40. cornerstone2001 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:48 AM

    Oh.Oh…We’re half way there…

    Oh,Oh…Living off my hair

  41. billswillnevermove says: Jul 29, 2014 10:49 AM

    joetoronto says:Jul 29, 2014 10:37 AM

    “It’s a big threat,” 49-year-old truck driver Charles Pellien told Adelson. “He’s aligned with guys from Toronto. They’ve got more money than everybody else. We don’t believe they will keep the Bills in Buffalo. Why would they?”
    ***********************************************
    At least this disgruntled fan has accepted reality, the Toronto group DOES have the most money by far and will offer the most money by far.

    Someone like Pegula isn’t even in the same ballpark.

    It’s over, time embrace the Toronto Bills.
    __________________________________
    You need to get your facts straight…….THEY DO NOT have the money Pegula does. You truly have no clue do you? You just come on here to be a troll. I can smell your Canadian stench from here.

  42. buddysguys says: Jul 29, 2014 10:49 AM

    @joetoronto says:

    At least this disgruntled fan has accepted reality, the Toronto group DOES have the most money by far and will offer the most money by far.

    Someone like Pegula isn’t even in the same ballpark.

    It’s over, time embrace the Toronto Bills.
    ___________________________________

    MLSE is valued at 2.25 B

    Pegula 3.3 Billion

    So Joe Toronto MLSE is not in the same ball park.

  43. carpanfan95 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:51 AM

    So Bills move to Canada. I can see it with the blessing of Roger Goodall. Best chance to break into the CFL and take it in. Then the IFC will be born. International Football Conference or something to that effect.

    Then put a team in London and start the Europe Football Conference.

    Since there is the Elite Football League of India and the Mumbai Gladiators. population 14 million equals $$$$.

    In a couple of year put a tem back in Buffalo or LA. Keep it 16 teams per conference. Canada would have to add 4, AFC 1, London and India would start building.

    Why not jump at the chance team owners can start having a D-league? Why not again when American Football is starting to catch on in other countries. The NFL has a chance to do something other sports can’t do and that’s go global with a sport they can control and rake in billions more.

    Sounds crazy I know, but raising the goal post, kicking further away and there is the extra point.
    Is it really that far away?

  44. deadlevelbest says: Jul 29, 2014 10:52 AM

    @joetoronto

    You obviously haven’t been paying attention. This group caps at $1.2B. Terry Pegula has $1.75 in cash alone. Who has the most money?

  45. mrlaloosh says: Jul 29, 2014 10:52 AM

    Get real people. It’s all about money. Fans do not matter. Even Ralph Wilson wanted a team in Miami. Not Buffalo. You could put a NFL team in any local and it will make money. Revenue sharing makes location irrelevant. Nothing short of building a stadium and giving it to the new owners for free plus all the revenue generated by the stadium will suffice. It’s all about the MONEY.
    That’s the same excuse Clay Bennett used to pry the Seattle team from Washington. They wouldn’t build a new free arena for him so he took his team and went home to OKC. That was the plan all along. Watch the lies the new owners will be spewing to the Bills fans. It’s a shame.

  46. destructicus says: Jul 29, 2014 10:53 AM

    Or… move to a middle ground of Hamilton and still call them the Buffalo Bills, or the Toronto whatever.

    I think the goal should be ensuring that the Bills fans in Buffalo don’t feel abandoned. If they can see their team with just an extra 30 minute drive… that’s not so bad.

    But downtown Toronto??? Oh god… the traffic… the white collar “tailgating”… no thanks.

  47. patrick33706 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:54 AM

    How come the President or Congress doesn’t say anything about an American planning on taking an American business out of the country!

  48. dirtyharry44 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:54 AM

    Sounds like a Scooby Doo episode where the Bon Jovi mask is ripped off the head of Clay Bennett.
    Beware Buffalo. Do not let this guy buy YOUR team.

    Best of luck,
    -SEATTLE Supersonics

  49. lostsok says: Jul 29, 2014 10:56 AM

    He’s not going to move them. But he is going to rename them the New Jersey Bills, making them the only New York team not playing in New Jersey yet the only one named New Jersey.

  50. deezenucks says: Jul 29, 2014 10:57 AM

    Lol at the guy thinking it’s value would be cut in half. Buffalo doesn’t even register on a global scale. If anything this would increase its value. The maple leafs are the highest valued team in the NHL.
    I don’t want them to move either but com’on, besides having passionate fans that city doesn’t have much going for it.

  51. happywolverine says: Jul 29, 2014 10:59 AM

    So JBJ’s ego driven dream is to own an NFL franchise is it?

    But by achieving this dream he’s willing to gut 100s of thousands diehard fans?

    I sincerely hope he fails in this bid if indeed true

  52. nobreak1269 says: Jul 29, 2014 11:02 AM

    Um…why all the ruckus? After all-it is the meaningless Bills.Why would Bon Jovi want to waste his money on them is the bigger question.

  53. ragnarthemagnificent says: Jul 29, 2014 11:14 AM

    Toronto needs an NFL team like Buffalo needs a CFL team. I wouldn’t worry Bills fans, the team is not moving. Jacksonville and San Diego have a much better chance of relocating.

    It could be worse, Brett Michaels and his hair plugs could be trying to buy your team!

  54. mrfrostyj says: Jul 29, 2014 11:15 AM

    In 2013 the Browns new owner renames the stadium and celebrates with the promise of a Bon Jovi Concert.

    Browns fans respond by telling the new owner that everyone in North East Ohio will be “doing their hair” that night and can’t attend despite regularly attending games for over a decade that they have a 75% chance of loosing.

    Browns owner responds by canceling Bon Jovi concert.

    Moral of the story…. Cleveland is with you Buffalo!!!!!

  55. waldoampere says: Jul 29, 2014 11:17 AM

    Finally a picture that shows him for what he is…a 1980s hair band singer.

  56. pancaketaco says: Jul 29, 2014 11:18 AM

    NFL needs to start recruiting a younger ownership base or these drawn out sales of franchises are going to begin to haunt them. Currently the average age of owner is 69. 17 of the 32 owners are over the age of 70…

    90+ – 3
    80 – 89 – 5
    70 – 79 – 9
    60 – 69 – 6
    50 – 59 – 5
    40 – 49 – 2
    30 – 39 – 1

  57. buckybadger says: Jul 29, 2014 11:21 AM

    mrlaloosh says:
    Jul 29, 2014 10:52 AM
    Get real people. It’s all about money. Fans do not matter. Even Ralph Wilson wanted a team in Miami. Not Buffalo. You could put a NFL team in any local and it will make money. Revenue sharing makes location irrelevant. Nothing short of building a stadium and giving it to the new owners for free plus all the revenue generated by the stadium will suffice. It’s all about the MONEY.
    That’s the same excuse Clay Bennett used to pry the Seattle team from Washington. They wouldn’t build a new free arena for him so he took his team and went home to OKC. That was the plan all along. Watch the lies the new owners will be spewing to the Bills fans. It’s a shame.

    ———————————–

    The market still matters. Sure you can make money in any market but don’t you think the other owners would rather have a team in a big market than a small one? Revenue sharing or not they want to maximize their income just like any other business.

  58. ddarlak says: Jul 29, 2014 11:22 AM

    there are only 32 NFL teams in the world, everyone of them is precious to the city it exists in….

    any given moment, one of the can be superbowl champs…

    I remember when the patriots were doormats….

  59. nanner12wojo says: Jul 29, 2014 11:23 AM

    Why not build a new stadium at Niagara Falls. Call the team “Niagara Falls Bills” and sell season tickets to Buffalo and Toronto residents. The drive is less than an hour for both sides and cold triple the fanbase in one of the smallest markets in the US.

    Hold training camp in Toronto and team HQ in Buffalo.

    I’m sure I’ll get a lot of thumbs down for this idea, but it’s a lot better than Donald Trump sneaking the team off to LA in 2022.

  60. granadafan says: Jul 29, 2014 11:23 AM

    “destructicus says:
    Jul 29, 2014 10:47 AM
    If it’s the Canadian side then the beer will be better. ”
    ====================================

    LOL, no it’s not. Your mass produced swill is just as bad as our mass produced swill. Our beer is much much more diverse with craft beers, micro brews, and heck, even the medium sized breweries are all much better than Canada’s beer. Nice try, seal clubber.

  61. douchebigelow says: Jul 29, 2014 11:28 AM

    My boss is from Buffalo and is a huge Bills fan. He is also the biggest DB I know, I hope they move the team like yesterday.

  62. buffalo14watkins says: Jul 29, 2014 11:28 AM

    I didn’t come to the NFL to go play in Canada ahh.

  63. joetoronto says: Jul 29, 2014 11:31 AM

    You idiots are confusing the Toronto Maple Leafs with MLSE. The Leafs are owned by MLSE, but they are not all of it.

    The Leafs alone are worth 1.2 billion.

    You guys can cry and fool yourselves all you want, they’re gone.

  64. miamatt says: Jul 29, 2014 11:32 AM

    Sounds like the Bon Jovi bid is about to get shot down in a blaze of glory…

  65. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 29, 2014 11:33 AM

    No one really knows what group will have the most $ because no one knows who will partner with who. For all we know, there could be a group who wants a team in Omaha, Nebraska with the most money who just hasn’t gone public. (exaggeration, but you get the point).

    The shining light for Bills fans is this: Bon Jovi’s group is formed with the clear understanding that Bon Jovi will be the controlling owner. By NFL rules, the controlling owner must have at least a 30% financial stake in team. So, it wont matter if Bon Jovi partners with Bill Gates. Bon Jovi needs to put up 30% of his own net worth.

    The question then becomes, can someone put together a bid that allows an outdoing of Bon Jovi’s 30%

  66. ralphwilsonisrich says: Jul 29, 2014 11:37 AM

    It’s so easy to take a shot at a city that you losers have never been too. Stop watching CNN! Do some research and educate yourself.

  67. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 29, 2014 11:37 AM

    joetoronto says:
    Jul 29, 2014 11:31 AM
    You idiots are confusing the Toronto Maple Leafs with MLSE. The Leafs are owned by MLSE, but they are not all of it.

    The Leafs alone are worth 1.2 billion.
    …………………..
    And youre confusing MLSE with the bidders. Their chairman is bidding, not MLSE. By NFL rules a corporation such as MLSE cannot own a team. So the net worth of MLSE is meaningless too. The networth of their chairman is $1.2 billion.

    Your Toronto group doesn’t own the team yet. Stop acting like it’s a done deal, you lowlife troll.

  68. cash804 says: Jul 29, 2014 11:38 AM

    Who cares? It’s the Bills…

    The Bills have the longest playoff drought in the NFL: they have not made the playoffs since 1999 (and thus are the only team so far to yet to appear in the playoffs in the 21st century).

    They also have the longest active streak of losing seasons: they have not finished .500 or better since 2004.

    - Wikipedia

  69. johngaltwho says: Jul 29, 2014 11:44 AM

    Feel bad for the relatively modest number of fans in Buffalo but it makes a lot of sense, from a business perspective to move the team to Toronto. Once you get past the emotions, why would the owners or the NFL not want to do this?

  70. atwatercrushesokoye says: Jul 29, 2014 11:44 AM

    MLSE is worth $2.5 billion but MLSE is just a holding company that owns the Leafs, Raptors and the ACC, MLSE is owned mostly by Rogers and Bell, Canada’s two largest communication companies and they have a lot of financial might behind them. But if you take those two companies out of it the money behind this bid is Larry Tannenbaum (a billionaire who owns part of MLSE) and the Rogers family which has it’s money from starting Rogers, they have many billions of dollars. Pegula may be worth $3.3 billion but they financial might behind the Toronto group dwarfs that.

    As for the leaks, it makes zero sense for this to come from the JBJ group, they have zero to gain and everything to lose from this being released which means that it was likely leaked from a rival bid who’s worried about the Toronto group and wants to poison that waters for them.

  71. mackcarrington says: Jul 29, 2014 11:45 AM

    I don’t own any Bon Jovi music or care for him in any way, but I think it’s hilarious that people think his music is so horrible despite him being around for over 35 years and making millions of dollars. I mean, nobody from Loverboy or Twisted Sister is in a position to be in the conversation about buying a pro football team. You may not like his music and consider him a “no talent” but he is a successful businessman if nothing else.

  72. pooflingingmonkey says: Jul 29, 2014 11:49 AM

    Of course the Bills will go to Toronto. This has been in the works since the 80′s. League brass and ownership knew that when Ralph Wilson passed, the NFL would expand into Canada via the Bills.

  73. jcamps33 says: Jul 29, 2014 11:56 AM

    joetoronto says:Jul 29, 2014 10:37 AM

    At least this disgruntled fan has accepted reality, the Toronto group DOES have the most money by far and will offer the most money by far.

    Someone like Pegula isn’t even in the same ballpark.

    It’s over, time embrace the Toronto Bills.

    Joetoronto–you could not be more wrong. Both Tom Golisano and Terry Pegula have much more liquid money (by themselves) than the Rodgers Group and Bon Jovi combined. Bon Jovi is a face with far little assets to be an owner by himself and from what I understand the Rodgers Group money is comparatively small to the Western NY bidders and tied up in a charitable trust and far from liquid.

  74. rcali says: Jul 29, 2014 11:57 AM

    GODdell can’t wait to move “The Buffalo NFL Franchise” to Canada, right?

  75. iloveagoodnap says: Jul 29, 2014 11:59 AM

    atwatercrushesokoye says:
    Jul 29, 2014 11:44 AM

    As for the leaks, it makes zero sense for this to come from the JBJ group, they have zero to gain and everything to lose from this being released which means that it was likely leaked from a rival bid who’s worried about the Toronto group and wants to poison that waters for them.
    ………………….
    Its not an allegation they’ve explored Toronto sites. It’s a fact. They did so more than a year before Ralph Wilson passed.

    Since he passed, more intricacies of how the team cant move until 2020 came to be. Then the group began to deny.

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see they’re now trying to save face because they got ahead of themselves before they knew the finer details.

  76. quicktaker says: Jul 29, 2014 12:06 PM

    Buffalo has awesome fans and they love their team but it doesn’t make any sense to build a billion dollar stadium when the shrinking population of Buffalo is only a quarter million people. Sports owners love to prod cities into making horrible financial decisions in order to line their own pockets.
    Awesome douchey picture of Bon Jovi by the way.

  77. Buffalol Bills Fan says: Jul 29, 2014 12:13 PM

    Everyone acting like its a done deal.

    Research this topic from top to bottom. Research the city of Buffalo’s economic resurgence it is beginning to go through. Research geography and demographics to realize when you include Rochester as part of the Bills market, things change dramatically.

    Do all that, and then let me know if you feel a Bills move to Toronto is a done deal, or if Buffalo isn’t a viable market for the future.

    The amount of people who know nothing and write as if they know everything makes me sick to my stomach.

  78. deadlevelbest says: Jul 29, 2014 12:17 PM

    The population of western NY (the market that the Bills draw from) is 2.5 million. And it makes money. Why anyone would spend a minimum of $2.5 billion+ to relocate to another market is beyond me.

  79. timmyp716 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:17 PM

    The toronto group does not have the money Pegula has. While the toronto group may be worth more altogether it is not liquid like Pegula. Pegula has AT LEAST $1.85 millon cash on hand. Rogers money is in a trust and would need to go through a process to free up any of it. Bon jovi would have to sell everything he owns basically in order to front his share.Cash on hand rules all. Moving the Bills to Niagara Falls ontario or anywhere in canada would not help the fans in Buffalo because most of the fans here won’t be allowed to cross the border due to DWI’s or any police record no matter how small and irrelevant it is. While a decent group of Bills fans do come from canada, it is not as large as some may think. Most canadians prefer to come here for the game anyways because
    1. Our gas is cheaper and they can fill up before they go home
    2. Their beer is cheaper here ($18usd for a 30 pack of Blue or Moulson compared to $40canadian for a 24 pack of the same)
    3. Ticket prices here are on avg. $59.19. Move to canada and watch that triple maybe quadruple.
    4. They can tailgate here and take in a real football atmosphere
    5. Americans are more fun to party with. (This one is just an opinion)

  80. handsofsweed says: Jul 29, 2014 12:20 PM

    mackcarrington says:
    Jul 29, 2014 11:45 AM

    I don’t own any Bon Jovi music or care for him in any way, but I think it’s hilarious that people think his music is so horrible despite him being around for over 35 years and making millions of dollars. I mean, nobody from Loverboy or Twisted Sister is in a position to be in the conversation about buying a pro football team. You may not like his music and consider him a “no talent” but he is a successful businessman if nothing else.

    No, but admit it, Dee Snider owning an NFL team would be awesome.

  81. khar9 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:21 PM

    Only way this would be exciting if they moved the bills to the nba

  82. billsboy88 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:22 PM

    Even if by some chance the team does move, I highly doubt they would continue to be known as the Bills

  83. timmyp716 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:24 PM

    $1.85 billion I ment^

  84. Buffalol Bills Fan says: Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM

    adoombray says:
    Jul 29, 2014 10:29 AM
    Manufactured conflict. Come on people, Toronto is not that far away, if the two cities share the team it’s not that big of a deal, you share the exact same land with the only difference being lines on some map and some jerks inbetween who will demand to see your papers, who have convinced you that you need them. Toronto and Buffallo are basically the same area if you think globally instead of with petty nationalism. If that’s what it takes to keep your team, then put the pitch forks down. Nobody is ever bringing another professional team to that city and this would still be a way better deal than losing it to LA or something.
    ……………………
    I understand the logic from your perspective, since you are an outsider.

    That said though, you’re very far off. It may not make sense to you, but for us Bills fans, a move to Toronto may as well be to LA. It’s nothing to do with petty nationalism. It’s the fact the Bills are our team, and Buffalo/WNY is our region and our city. We love it and take a whole lot or pride in it.

    To us, what you’re suggesting is like suggesting the Browns move to Columbus, the Penguins move to Cleveland, etc. Regionally, sure. But it would never fly. You don’t have to understand it, but its the way it is.

  85. dalcow4 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM

    Buffalo is mad at the wrong person. The NFL is orchestrating this. They want and will have a team in Canada, and a move from a small market in Buffalo to a large market in Toronto is perfect for them. Imagine all the press a team in Toronto will get all across the country of Canada.

    Like it or not, folks, this is the start of a new era– one where there will be teams in the U.S. and Canada.

    I’m sorry to see it happen, Buffalo, but you will lose your team.

  86. billsboy88 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:30 PM

    The size of a team’s city has very little to do with it’s value. Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Dallas are the 3 teams in the NFL with the largest fan bases. However, They are not even close to being from the biggest cities in the NFL. The common factor: they have a winning history. That’s all it takes. An NFL team would thrive in Topeka if they won 5 superbowls

  87. ragnarthemagnificent says: Jul 29, 2014 12:30 PM

    Whats really important is that Buffalo Bill was a serial killer of the Buffalo, native Americans main food resource at the time. Just as offensive as Redskins. They should change the name to the Buffalo Buffalo’s.

    I know it sounds silly, but its only a matter of time…

  88. upstaterules says: Jul 29, 2014 12:31 PM

    Just expand the league. We didn’t need Toronto 20yrs ago and we don’t need them now. The fan base would not be affected.

    Maybe Jon Bon Idiot should pay the $1bil new franchise fee, it might be cheaper. Supposedly he has Jerry Jones, Mara and Kraft’s support. Talk them into expansion, they want teams in LA and London, too.

  89. deezenucks says: Jul 29, 2014 12:33 PM

    What Canada doesn’t have micro breweries? I’m sorry but the beer north of the border is better and everyone knows it. Light beer is for the USA. I will give mad props to Portland however, they got it dialed

  90. wcman says: Jul 29, 2014 12:35 PM

    A lot of emotional responses on here which is understandable but some realities need to be faced. Buffalo is not an economically viable city for a team long term. Toronto is a world wide power economically and has no end to Corporate support which Buffalo also lacks. It also doesn’t matter how rich the bidders are. It only matters what each is willing to offer to buy the team. I think Bon Jovi’s group has shown a willingness to be the highest bidder. The whole premise behind the Toronto bid is to build a new Stadium in Toronto in time for when the Buffalo lease would run out so they don’t have to play at the Skydome.

  91. ill42 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:35 PM

    You can keep The Bills, we don’t want them.

    Sincerely,

    Toronto

  92. abninf says: Jul 29, 2014 12:38 PM

    But Bon Jovi could hold Obama rallies in the stadium. That would bring in a few hundred bucks to the local economy.

  93. pourman says: Jul 29, 2014 12:45 PM

    Well, sure, if you use that picture.

  94. unclebluck says: Jul 29, 2014 12:47 PM

    That picture of BJ ( I call him BJ cause that’s what he is) Made my day!

  95. channelguy says: Jul 29, 2014 12:48 PM

    Buffalo fans who think the Toronto group doesn’t have the funds of Pegula are kidding themselves. The posts I have seen here see Toronto funding as EITHER Tannenbaum, which means MLSE, or Rogers, which owns the Blue Jays. But it’s BOTH. In addition, the valuation given for MLSE by posters here is the valuation of the LEAFS. But they also own an NBA team, a soccer team, and have deep reserves.

    Remember as well that these are all fronts for corporate ownership. Pegula’s wealth is his personal fortune. Would he leverage most of it into another sports team? I don’t think its realistic to assume that.

    Regardless of this, I don’t see the Bills moving to Toronto. There is no fiduciary duty to accept the highest bid, and given that it’s pretty obvious the Toronto group would move the team, regardless of what they have said, I believe it will be sold to one of the local bids.

  96. coreyb3p says: Jul 29, 2014 12:54 PM

    “adoombray says:
    Jul 29, 2014 10:29 AM
    Manufactured conflict. Come on people, Toronto is not that far away, if the two cities share the team it’s not that big of a deal, you share the exact same land with the only difference being lines on some map and some jerks inbetween who will demand to see your papers, who have convinced you that you need them. Toronto and Buffallo are basically the same area if you think globally instead of with petty nationalism. If that’s what it takes to keep your team, then put the pitch forks down. Nobody is ever bringing another professional team to that city and this would still be a way better deal than losing it to LA or something.”

    ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. I would rather have them move to LA than to Toronto and have our faces rubbed in that by the Toronto Douches.

    Bon Jovi GO TO HELL!!!!!!!

  97. baddegg says: Jul 29, 2014 12:56 PM

    Who is that chick in the picture?

  98. baddegg says: Jul 29, 2014 12:59 PM

    For a guy who has made millions and millions working the crowd, he has blown it on this one.
    ————
    On the other hand, he’s killing it in Toronto…

  99. thebandit27 says: Jul 29, 2014 12:59 PM

    There is zero, I repeat, zero chance this team moves.

    There are also quite a few folks on here that don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. The Toronto group has, at most, a net worth that tops out around $3B–with absolutely no mention of how much of that is cash holdings.

    Terry Pegula by himself was worth at least $3.3B before he sold off land assets worth $1.75B. He’s got more cash than the Toronto group has net worth.

    Mark my words, within 2-3 weeks you’ll all see that this team isn’t going anywhere.

  100. harrisonhits2 says: Jul 29, 2014 1:05 PM

    Lol as if Bon Jovi cares what the Bills fans think. And his music fans will not give a damn if he moves the team to Toronto, London or Mars for that matter.

    Its all about money. Whichever group offers the most will get the Bills, nothing else will matter one bit to the people selling the team.

    And hey PFT, great job finding a 30 year old photo of the guy. Its not like its easy to find current photos of a rock star after all.

  101. restorativejusticeprogram says: Jul 29, 2014 1:06 PM

    Too bad Buffalo. If you had a pro-business, pro-balanced budget and pro-crack Mayor like Rob Ford in your City maybe it would not be the declining failure that it has become after 60 years of one-party rule.

    Sorry, but Mayor Ford delivers another win for Toronto.

  102. normaneinstein7 says: Jul 29, 2014 1:06 PM

    lol, nice choice of pic Mike.

  103. gmen32 says: Jul 29, 2014 1:06 PM

    When comparing which group or individual has the most $, do not forget that Toronto will need to build a stadium. The Bon Jovi group will need REAL deep pockets to pay for the stadium. There won’t be taxpayers money available and PSL’s would be a flop in Toronto. Even die hard NFL fans will not drop thousands of dollars for the right to purchase season tickets in this market. The Toronto media likes to play up this story, but as each day passes you can tell that Toronto will not be joining the NFL anytime soon.

  104. floriosnuts says: Jul 29, 2014 1:07 PM

    Public support is meaningless. Unless the estate demands the new owners sign a long-term lease in Buffalo ANY new owner will have a chance to move the team.

  105. bnwpnw says: Jul 29, 2014 1:08 PM

    Interesting that Clay Bennett (and by extension the NBA) has emerged in this forum as the poster child for “sleazy relocation.”

  106. atwatercrushesokoye says: Jul 29, 2014 1:12 PM

    The Rogers family (not the company but the family itself) is worth $7.6 billion, so anyone claiming they don’t have the money is absolutely incorrect. I’m not saying they’ll win the bid, and frankly I don’t care, but they could easily come up with the money if they want to.

  107. kingdee747lbc says: Jul 29, 2014 1:17 PM

    Who cares if he moves the bills to Canada as long as u can still watch them on t.v. they suck anyways

  108. coreyb3p says: Jul 29, 2014 1:24 PM

    Oh I don’t know Kingdee747lbc…. MAYBE EVERYONE IN BUFFALO.

  109. timmyp716 says: Jul 29, 2014 1:31 PM

    Worth value doesn’t mean anything unless its cash in their pocket right now or at the time of bidding. The rogers family is worth $7.6 billion because of what they own it doesn’t mean that they have that in cash

  110. Slapshot says: Jul 29, 2014 1:34 PM

    Being a Steelers fan, I want the Bills to remain in Buffalo. I didn’t like Modell moving the Browns to Baltimore either. Bon Jovi and Goodell spell trouble for Buffalo. The Commish has dreams of teams in Toronto, London and Mexico City. I wish Pete Rozelle was still Commissioner.

  111. doctorbarr says: Jul 29, 2014 1:47 PM

    Unfortunately the NFL will go for the move… bigger market. They are already planning moves to England- why not Canada. Oh, and I am against both. NATIONAL Football league is American.

  112. luther6 says: Jul 29, 2014 1:50 PM

    I think we all know what JBJ was scribbling while Goodell was lecturing over lunch: “Crate plausible deniability about moving the team.”

    Get the injunctions drafted, New York State and Erie County.

  113. skoobyfl says: Jul 29, 2014 1:58 PM

    If I had a choice, I’d just as well see the franchise fold versus going to Toronto.

  114. kingpel says: Jul 29, 2014 2:07 PM

    Maybe Bon Jovi should hand out hundred dollar bills at Bills training camp.

  115. ragnarthemagnificent says: Jul 29, 2014 2:11 PM

    New York, Florida and California all need a 1 team reduction. The Commish agrees.

  116. ydousuk says: Jul 29, 2014 2:14 PM

    I’m sorry to see it happen, Buffalo, but you will lose your team.
    ————————————–

    Don’t give up the fight Buffalo fans. They said the same thing when Behring tried to move the Seahawks to LA, and we see how that worked out.

    Seahawks Fan.

  117. 23rdusernameused says: Jul 29, 2014 2:26 PM

    wheels579 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:16 AM

    “It would be career suicide for him as a performer to take an NFL team out of the United States.”

    I thought it was career suicide to be bon jovi!! lol

  118. jrob23 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:34 PM

    now Florio is giving advice to Bon Jovi, a man worth millions, who knows his stuff, owns a sports team, and in probably most aspects of life is more successful. Too much. I’m sure he’ll be fine Mike. Thanks for the suggestions.

  119. nomoreliesfortoday says: Jul 29, 2014 2:35 PM

    skudz592 says: Jul 29, 2014 10:11 AM

    Stay away from Buffalo!

  120. 81percentwater says: Jul 29, 2014 2:36 PM

    Jon will move the team, however he has promised free Aqua Net to all fans of the buffalo bills.

  121. wydok says: Jul 29, 2014 2:41 PM

    However you feel about Jon Bongiovi buying the Bills, using a picture from 1986 is pretty lame.

  122. lovethelions says: Jul 29, 2014 2:59 PM

    Look what happened to Cleveland…and then look at what’s going on in Seattle.

    Cleveland’s Superbowl wins happened in Baltimore. They never should have let the team move.

    Seattle kept their team and won the Superbowl :)

    If you want your team, then fight for it! Pressure the NFL to NOT allow team owners to move their teams, as long as the city can fill the seats. If a town can’t fill the seats…then they probably don’t deserve a team.

    Detroit has always done it and we’ve had AWFUL years. Real fans stick with a team and don’t let rock stars and business men make decisions that impact their future.

    Best of luck and don’t give up!

    Go LIONS!

  123. deadeye says: Jul 29, 2014 3:06 PM

    On a steal Buffalo he rides…

  124. rjkilla says: Jul 29, 2014 3:11 PM

    i can’t think of a worse way for bon jovi to try and win over fans than by playing free concerts. what year is this again?

  125. cottagewithroses says: Jul 29, 2014 3:13 PM

    I have two SILs, who travel all over the place, to go to Bon Jovi concerts. They’re probably funding this mess. I just don’t get it.

    Of course, they all had the same hair style as Bon Jovi, back in the 1980s (LOL)

  126. wwwmattcom says: Jul 29, 2014 3:25 PM

    If there is any doubt the next owners want to move the team to Canada I will not purchase NFL ticket and support all claims that the NFL causes brain injury and discourage all youngsters from ever playing. I will take it to the “Mom” blogs.

  127. ketchupaholic says: Jul 29, 2014 3:27 PM

    Bon Jovi is a “HUGE” Liberal! I expect nothing less from him.

  128. trubroncfan07 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:34 PM

    This has Rodger Goodell’s finger prints all over it. I am sure he is the one pushing for this. Bills in Toronto, Jags In England! I hope it never happens, but the writing is on the wall.

  129. myfriendbobsacamano says: Jul 29, 2014 3:49 PM

    Has anyone on draft day ever said – Hope the Bills draft me, I want to live in Buffalo !

  130. bingobrown12 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:53 PM

    waldoampere says: Jul 29, 2014 11:17 AM

    Finally a picture that shows him for what he is…a 1980s hair band singer.
    ————————————————————
    Which coincidentally was the decade the Bills were
    relevant.

  131. devildog911 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:54 PM

    The Chargers should be moved to Toronto.

  132. dannersthemanners says: Jul 29, 2014 4:58 PM

    Bills, you gotta keep the faith…get it? O my god I’m funny.

  133. polarbear71 says: Jul 29, 2014 5:06 PM

    Better Toronto than London…easy call.

  134. Kelly's Chronicles says: Jul 29, 2014 5:08 PM

    I think the Toronto Vikings are a better idea. :) jk

  135. crush22 says: Jul 29, 2014 5:11 PM

    mtheparrothead says:
    Jul 29, 2014 10:30 AM
    Shad khan. Example of what an owner needs to do to show his loyalty to the city in which his team is located. Had to be someone, guess it has to be the bills.
    _________________________________
    Keep telling yourself that.
    The Jags are as good as gone.

  136. nflrule says: Jul 29, 2014 5:16 PM

    Buffalo has an NFL team?

  137. joetoronto says: Jul 29, 2014 5:18 PM

    What a bunch of whiners, whiners and losers.

  138. thelastpieceofcheese says: Jul 29, 2014 5:21 PM

    I’m afraid Bon Jovi’s irresistible natural charisma will have him buying the Bills and moving them to Toronto.

    It’s not fair Bills’ fans.

  139. stonedolphin89 says: Jul 29, 2014 5:50 PM

    In theory, a team in Toronto isn’t a bad idea to me (overlooking Bills fans personal feelings, which we realistically cannot do). But once we get our 1st international team, they’ll start falling like dominos.

    1st) the Bills move to Toronoto (a relative easy move, considering they’re neighbors and play there plenty as it is).

    2nd) My Dolphins get moved to Mexico city considering their already extensive Hispanic popularity.

    3rd) Patriots get kicked over to London (Kraft himself has been saying he wants a London team, right?)

    And the only American team left in the AFC East will be the “New York” New Jersey Jets. Ironic.

  140. sunzu717 says: Jul 29, 2014 9:33 PM

    Best thing that can happen to this franchise is moving it to Toronto. Nobody else will buy it and keep it in Buffalo forever, the market is too small. At least in Toronto fans can still view games an hour plus away driving rather than flying to LA or London – which won’t happen. Go Bon Jovi group!!!

  141. stuvian says: Aug 1, 2014 8:30 AM

    Bon Jovi in French means bubble gum. Say no to the Toronto Shills

  142. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 1, 2014 11:32 AM

    “What Canada doesn’t have micro breweries? I’m sorry but the beer north of the border is better and everyone knows it. Light beer is for the USA. I will give mad props to Portland however, they got it dialed”
    ————————–

    You have never been to Wisconsin.

  143. jukeboxmickey says: Aug 3, 2014 12:25 PM

    My guess is Bonjovi is the the majority owner of that group he just does not really have the
    Funds to have 30 percent. Think about it if you were Wilson’s Estate would you want to wait
    For Bonjovi to liquidate a his assets to come up with enough funds to make the Purchase.
    Bonjovi has no business even being at the table. The Toronto groups main problem
    Is really Bonnovi him self. He does not have they money to do this and his big fat mouth
    Has got him in Hot water. It’s over for them. Mean while Terry P just lurks In the back ground with class. He is the savior. The Wilson estate knows this and so do the other bidders.
    Why keep the Shrade going. The reason for dead lines and bids is to have Morgan Stanley
    Figure out who should be the best owner with the most liquid assets. Know that they seen
    The cards of the 3 players. They report back to the Wilson Estate. It seems like it’s a good reason to eliminate the Toronto group when you know they really can’t go higher

    More of my opinion

    Why would the 2 articles not say all 3 groups made it to the 2nd round.
    If they did they would have reported it that way.
    They made a point to say Terry P and Trump have moved onto the
    2nd round. So I am speculating, yes if it turns out not to be true I
    Am sorry. But for now it appears that this could be the case so I started a thread.
    So let’s see what happens.

    The Toronto Group does not have the Money
    With Bonjovi as the majority owner. he has to put down 30 percent. His partners can’t be the Majority owner they own the maple leafs.
    So they can not be Majority Owner.
    NFL does not allow a Owner to own 2 Sports teams in different markets. So hence the other guys can’t be the Majority Owner of this Canada
    Group. The Canada group was fine if the bidding stayed around 1billion. But with the bidding already at 1.3 Billion and possibly ending at 1.5
    Billion. This is no reason to keep the Toronto Group around. It’s Morgan Staley’s job to make recommendations to the Wilson Estate.
    Why keep this group around if they can’t bid higher. Plus single ownership over 3 partners is preferred by the NFL and the Morgan Stanley that has to close on this sale. The Toronto’s groups biggest problem is that Bonjovi just does not have
    The funds to complete the 30 percent threshold
    That he needs to come up with. The bids are all ready past the point of no return for this
    Canada groups bid.

    More

    It’s simple math at 1 billion dollars Bonjovi would need 300 million dollars.
    I just googled his net worth here is what came back

    According to Forbes, Bon Jovi was the third highest-paid musician in the world in 2013, bringing in $79 million. In its 2012 “Ones to Watch” list, Forbes estimated Bon Jovi has a total net worth of $290 million. Forbes estimates the Bills are valued at $870 million, as of August 2013.

    So if the bidding gets up to 1.5 Billion
    Then he would need 450 Million to
    Be in the game. He has around 320 million
    Or so that’s what’s been reported.

    When Morgan Stanley and the Wilson Estate
    Look at the numbers and his financials it easy to
    Understand why he and his group would be eliminated.

    Now if the bidding was say 900 million
    To 1 Billion dollars for the bills. Them I could see this group staying at the table and in the game
    To be picked to own the Bills.

    But it’s gone beyond that now. It’s Morgan Stanley’s job on behalf of the Wilson estate
    To move this process forward.

    It’s really over for this Toronto Group
    Bonjovi does not have the money to move forward it’s that simple.

    His group should not move to the next round.

    Tell me why wouldn’t Mary Wilson not want to pick
    A single buyer over a group with 3 buyers
    That would move the team out of Buffalo.
    Plus the highest bidder would honor her late Husbands wishes and keep the team in Buffalo
    To further his legacy. I could see Terry P naming the new stadium field after the late great Ralph Wilson. Let’s is common sense.

    Bon Jovi can’t be the Majority owner of the Bills
    The bidding has gone to high.
    It’s over for this group. It’s time to celebrate
    This great weekend that is upon us.

  144. atahualpaoxford says: Aug 4, 2014 12:25 AM

    Toronto does not have an industrial base to tax..
    Which means it’s the homeowners that have to pay taxes to the city so if can function and provide basic services…
    As it is, if you want to buy a home in toronto, you have to pay a land transfer tax…province wide…only that in T.O. it’s double what it is anywhere in the rest of the province.
    Do you think that if the idea is for building a stadium financed by the taxpayers the people would vote yes…???
    Services are being cut because the city doesn
    t have the funds..
    So…who’s going to pay for the stadium…bon Jovi and Co….????
    Not a chance…
    The Bills are not going to Toronto…

  145. csbanter says: Aug 4, 2014 11:46 AM

    Hopefully the Bills stay in Buffalo. Couldn’t the Wilson family make that a condition of the sale ? I don’t know i’m just asking.

  146. gashmr says: Aug 5, 2014 4:19 PM

    Bon Jovi does not want the Bills anyway, he’s a Cowboy and on a steel horse he rides….

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