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With the Josh Gordon appeal hearing set for Friday and with Gordon hiring (as Adam Schefter reported last night) the same lawyer who helped Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman avoid a four-game suspension for violation of the PED policy in 2012, Gordon presumably has a case that holds more water than the average bong.

Gordon possibly does, especially if the same spirit of lenience that helped Ray Rice receive a suspension of only two games for knocking out his fiancée applies in any way to Gordon.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Gordon landed in Stage III of the program last year as part of a negotiated two-game suspension for the use of cough syrup that contained codeine.  Once in Stage III, a player never leaves.  And he must pass up to 10 drug tests per month.

According to the source, Gordon has passed at least 70 drug tests.  One test barely generated a positive.  And but for the 50-50 luck of the draw, it would have been a negative.

Urine samples routinely are split into two bottles, the “A” bottle and the “B” bottle.  If the “A” bottle generates a positive result, the “B” bottle is tested.  Amazingly, the “B” bottle doesn’t have to independently show a violation.  Instead, the substance abuse policy states that the “‘B’ bottle Test need only show that the substance, revealed in the ‘A’ bottle Test, is evident to the ‘limits of detection’ to confirm the results of the ‘A’ bottle Test.”

In English, close counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and “B” bottles.

For Gordon, the “A” bottle showed a concentration of 16 ng/ml, only one nanogram per milliliter above the limits of 15.  The “B” bottle showed a concentration of 13.6 ng/ml — less than the threshold.

But because the “A” bottle was labeled “A” and not “B” and because the “B” bottle was labeled “B” and not “A”, the end result is a positive and a minimum one-year banishment from the NFL.  Flip the bottles when it’s time to apply the labels, and Gordon isn’t facing a suspension.

Setting aside (for now) my lingering concerns about the NFL policing the use of marijuana by players, the Draconian provisions of a program that subjects a player to up to 10 tests per month and will remove a Stage III player from the workforce for at least a full year if he failed a single test over the balance of his career, and the NFL’s apparent unwillingness to subject Colts owner Jim Irsay to this same testing protocol and standard, Josh Gordon will be treated extremely unfairly if the policy is strictly applied to him as it is written.

All because the bottle that tested at 16 ng/ml was labeled with an “A and the bottle that tested at 13.6 ng/ml was labeled with a “B”.

The NFL clearly got it wrong with Ray Rice.  The NFL has a chance to get it right with Josh Gordon.

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151 Responses to “Gordon’s appeal focuses on disparity between “A” and “B” bottle tests”
  1. khar9 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:13 PM

    That’s where I left my apple juice

  2. khar9 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:14 PM

    O That’s where I left my apple juice

  3. In Teddy We Trust says: Jul 29, 2014 2:14 PM

    If we’re relying on common sense to prevail, Gordon is screwed.

  4. guachosporlife says: Jul 29, 2014 2:16 PM

    Get this guy the Whizzinator ASAP…as well as some mental health treatment.

  5. 4thquartermagic says: Jul 29, 2014 2:17 PM

    Hope his appeal gets lifted.

    Not because his pee jar got mislabeled. But because it’s just weed.

    Let ‘em smoke Roger.

  6. Nath says: Jul 29, 2014 2:17 PM

    He should have just punched the drug tester unconscious, then he would be able to play this season.

  7. dirtydrew says: Jul 29, 2014 2:17 PM

    Let Gordon Smoke.

  8. broncostevenp says: Jul 29, 2014 2:17 PM

    Who cares about weed? You have a guy knock out his fiancée and he gets 2 games, and you have a guy who likes to smoke pot? I could care less about pot. It’s going to be legal everywhere in the US in the next 5 years once the politicians see all the revenue that Washington and Colorado are raking in.

    Note to NFL….let it go.

  9. ind2cle says: Jul 29, 2014 2:18 PM

    This is good news for Browns fans. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em! On second thought…

  10. barsfordays says: Jul 29, 2014 2:18 PM

    Im getting real tired of these constant Josh Gordon articles. Either suspend him or dont. Move on.

  11. ragnarthegreat says: Jul 29, 2014 2:18 PM

    it seems like there might have been a way for Josh Gordon to have gotten it right too…

  12. anthonypetro2 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:19 PM

    The Browns knew this information, they knew the NFL couldn’t win this case against Gordon, which is why they drafted and acted like he would be part of the team this year.

    The NFL is a joke when it comes to punishment, Mike is right… They have a chance to make it right.

  13. khar9 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:19 PM

    Why 2 cups ? Dump them together to make one cup and test from there . Something smells pissy

  14. riflemanlax says: Jul 29, 2014 2:19 PM

    Pulling a ‘Ryan Braun.’ Nice.

  15. adonahoe82 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:20 PM

    don’t count on the NFL ever admitting they are wrong. Same goes for Goodell who is judge, jury and executioner.

  16. drfeelyouup says: Jul 29, 2014 2:20 PM

    Free Gordon! Johnny to Gordon baby!!!!!!!

  17. torethatbridgeout says: Jul 29, 2014 2:20 PM

    THIS is the testing protocol the players union agreed to? Holy cow. My opinion of the NFL’s drug policy just did a 180.

  18. ind2cle says: Jul 29, 2014 2:22 PM

    Brandon Weeden drank his urine sample. Just sayin..

  19. sdchicken says: Jul 29, 2014 2:23 PM

    Or just don’t smoke weed and make $50 million over the next 5 years. Tough decision..

  20. jeffnfl says: Jul 29, 2014 2:24 PM

    Not a Browns fan, and I still REALLY hope this gets lifted for Josh. NFL really has a chance here to get this right as PFT says.

  21. govtminion says: Jul 29, 2014 2:24 PM

    On the one hand, I do agree- the NFL’s testing policies suck, and its punishment is ridiculous (particularly in light of the light hand given to Rice and Irsay, as the article noted).

    On the other hand, if his suspension gets reduced, it just means that much sooner before his next failed test, because it’s pretty clear at this point that Gordon has learned NOTHING, and likely never will.

  22. simplemaninoh says: Jul 29, 2014 2:24 PM

    O.I.C people do we get the best up n coming WR in the entire NFL and then this happens…..O…I…C….damn!!!!!

  23. skum01 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:24 PM

    He also had to fail at least four different drug tests to even get to stage three testing, right?

  24. tjb114 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:24 PM

    This would be HUGE for the browns if Gordon somehow walks away from the appeal hearing and is allowed to play any games this year.

    Go Browns!

  25. chc4 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:27 PM

    All you morons blaming the NFL for suspending guys over pot use clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. IT’S PART OF THE CBA. Which means the players agreed to it and signed on the line that is dotted. The suspensions are mandatory. Get a freakin’ clue… that you don’t think marijuana should be illegal has nothing to do with the price of rice in China.

  26. 6ball says: Jul 29, 2014 2:27 PM

    .
    When will the Irsay situation be properly covered by the media? What was he doing with 29k in cash when arrested on felony charges? Did the scripts come from a team doctor?
    .

  27. hrmlss says: Jul 29, 2014 2:27 PM

    So he beats this one like Ray Rice, then the DUI he just got will retrigger it.

  28. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 29, 2014 2:27 PM

    What an idiotic policy. And the players agreed to this non sense?

    The more that comes out about NFL policies for players, the more im appalled. DeMaurice Smith ought to be fired immediately. Who agrees to marijuana testing in the first place, and secondly, who doesnt demand that both A and B samples must be exactly the same.

    Sounds like a flawed testing system and flawed agreement. Hopefully Josh Gordons lawyer gets him off the hook. This is ridiculous.

  29. clesportsfan says: Jul 29, 2014 2:27 PM

    If the levels don’t hit, you must acquit!

    ~Jackie Chiles

  30. clashpoint says: Jul 29, 2014 2:29 PM

    Huh. So the average between the two bottles was below the threshold for guilty as well. Y’know, I’m a Steelers fan, and as a rule, the Browns suck. I’d still give the guy another chance as far as this test goes.

    However, should his latest legal trouble with the dui negate that chance though? While technically that dui is irrelevant to this circumstance by itself, should it still perhaps affect any benefit of the doubt regarding it? That’s an important question for me.

  31. xjippyx says: Jul 29, 2014 2:30 PM

    Non violent offenses shouldn’t be so much, especially when the system is so flawed.

  32. bf0w says: Jul 29, 2014 2:30 PM

    Red Right 88.
    The Fumble.
    The Drive.
    The Move.
    “The Nanogram” or “Bottle ‘B’”. Still deciding.

    Browns fan for life-!

  33. pillowporkers says: Jul 29, 2014 2:31 PM

    And then there’s the DUI…

  34. cardiaccatsbackin2013 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:31 PM

    In light of this new information, I will stop being so harsh on my criticism of Gordon … 70 passed drug tests and one fail due to a technicality? That’s insanity. Let the man play!

  35. texansdan says: Jul 29, 2014 2:31 PM

    Not saying if the policy is right or wrong, but I his argument is that it was right at the threshold, that still means he’s admitting there was weed in his system. Don’t forget that part when you get caught up in the a/b thing.

  36. mendenhallfumblemachine says: Jul 29, 2014 2:32 PM

    Add the man in fantasy before it’s too late. Things are starting too look up

  37. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 29, 2014 2:34 PM

    What is it with lawyers like yourself acting all righteous and saving the wronged? Just the fact that he was over with THC in his system is enough for me considering the tolerance for a 3 peat offender should be 0 nanograms. Just by the letter of the CBA and the way it is written he is found positive. Bottle B does not have to have the same measurement but it is obviously close enough. Instead of whining that it could have been avoided by simply as the labels being on different bottles how about holding Gordon accountable for the 4th time and that he should have been abstaining and there wouldn’t be an issue? And the Draconian rules comment?? How many other people are afforded a 3 strike policy in everyday life. if you are lucky you are given 2 then you are gone. stop coddling these guys that’s the bigger problem.

  38. eaglesw00t says: Jul 29, 2014 2:34 PM

    I hate to split hairs…but shouldnt he really have had 0 ng/ml in his system?

    And as far as the Irsay hate…calm down. Is Irsay also in stage 3? Wait…what? Irsay hasnt already failed several drug tests? You dont say. The way you guys harp on him, you would swear he is in constant drug trouble.

  39. scrummymustard says: Jul 29, 2014 2:35 PM

    correct me if I’m wrong, but even if he wins this appeal….

    doesn’t he have a DUI conviction as well to be addressed?

  40. akhhorus says: Jul 29, 2014 2:35 PM

    “Get it right”? He tested over the limit.

  41. dcsween says: Jul 29, 2014 2:35 PM

    A nanogram is a really, really, really small amount. Even on a very, very sensitive test that can measure down at these levels, the PRECISION of the test (the capacity of the test to reliably measure a “true” sample containing 15 ng/mL) will have error bands around the result … at the nanogram level, the measurement is really in the range around the result (this metric is called ACCURACY). I would be surprised if 1.3 ng/ml isn’t within the range of acceptable error (unless the analyst did multiple replicates testing sample A and sample B).

  42. salsendardo says: Jul 29, 2014 2:36 PM

    DUIs aren’t under the drug policy. They’re under the personal conduct policy. Apples to oranges. He will get his DUI reduced to reckless driving anyhow.

  43. eaglesw00t says: Jul 29, 2014 2:38 PM

    Who cares about weed? You have a guy knock out his fiancée and he gets 2 games, and you have a guy who likes to smoke pot? I could care less about pot. It’s going to be legal everywhere in the US in the next 5 years once the politicians see all the revenue that Washington and Colorado are raking in.

    Note to NFL….let it go.

    ——

    Being as the NFL exists in numerous states, they adhere to Federal guidelines. Marijuana is illegal on a Federal level. Until that changes, it wont change in the NFL.

  44. nicofthenorthstar says: Jul 29, 2014 2:39 PM

    Free Josh Gordon!

  45. wineguy76 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:41 PM

    With a testing policy this bad, is it any wonder they can’t agree on HGH testing procedures? Start testing all the owners like this, with the same rules of applying for medical exemptions before they get to use prescriptions then I will care about HGH testing.

  46. micknangold says: Jul 29, 2014 2:41 PM

    1. The NFL should let pot slide in the future.

    2. They don’t yet.

    3. Josh Gordon failed a drug test according to existing protocol.

    4. Case closed.

  47. mburkett1980 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:45 PM

    Or, instead of worrying about all this A bottle B bottle madness, why not just not smoke weed and make millions? Regardless of how you feel about the marijuana issue, the fact of the matter is, it is currently against NFL rules.

    If you didn’t want to get caught up in a technicality, you shouldn’t have done ANY weed.

  48. icematrix69 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:46 PM

    While everyone is crying foul over the test, the real question should be why the hell Gordon continues to place himself into this position! You as an NFL athlete are paid millions to play a GAME! With that come certain responsibilities is it does with everyone and their employment. Not smoking weed is one of those conditions to your employment. I feel no sympathy for this kid if he doesn’t respect his position enough to stop smoking….. Ban his sorry butt!

  49. doctorbarr says: Jul 29, 2014 2:48 PM

    Goddell doesn’t care… he’s a class-less fool who thinks he owns the world. I have zero respect for that man. I would love to tell it to his face.

  50. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 29, 2014 2:49 PM

    adonahoe82 says:
    Jul 29, 2014 2:20 PM

    don’t count on the NFL ever admitting they are wrong. Same goes for Goodell who is judge, jury and executioner

    Wrong in this case? They are following the written rules in the CBA as was posted in the article what didn’t you get?

    As far as the other poster and who would agree to Marijuana testing have you worked a day in your life? About every job in America has a no drug policy and lets not forget when the CBA was signed it was ILLEGAL nationwide and still is illegal just about everywhere. I am a supporter of it myself but it doesn’t really matter does it. I make a fraction of what Gordon does but am smart enough not to risk my career let alone 4 times. He is just an idiot.

  51. mellimac says: Jul 29, 2014 2:53 PM

    Absurd drug system for the NFL, absurd law on drugs…
    I see he was put in stage 3 for cough syrup…are you kidding me!
    From where I sit, in the great white north, you folks love to beat a person down on the most inane of excuses. If the guy has drug problem, he needs medical attention. Then, to top it off, you have states with legalized pot and others with life sentences for pot….

  52. Marshawn Lunch says: Jul 29, 2014 2:55 PM

    chc4 says “…IT’S PART OF THE CBA. Which means the players agreed to it and signed on the line that is dotted…”

    —–

    No. You are wrong. The UNION agreed to it. That doesn’t mean EVERY single player agreed to it. But because they are part of the union they have to go along with it.

    It’s very similar to the presidential election. It usually comes down to the difference of about 3% of the vote. So maybe 48% of the people voted for the loser. Would you blame those same 48% for the crap the new president does?? No. In political science classes it’s called “the tyranny of the majority”.

    But, the players DID agree to be part of the Union and it is in THAT sense that the players signed on to this silly CBA. But, from what is written in this article, there does NOT appear to be a specific process laid out for determining which cup is the “A” cup and the “B”cup.

    And the NFL has a very extensive list of things that cannot be in a players’ system. Combine that with the fact that players routinely get pain killing injections and take all sorts of drugs that ARE allowed by the league and you can’t just say “dude, shoulda known better”. It’s not that simple.

  53. coachbeck says: Jul 29, 2014 2:57 PM

    So he is going to resort to tricks to cover up his bad behavior. Sounds like a stand up guy

  54. mch243 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:57 PM

    Has Ray Rice been a repeat offender since entering the league? The commissionor handed him a 2 game suspension. He doesn’t deserve a second chance?

    How many times has Josh Gordon violated the NFL’s drug policy? Didn’t he get a DUI just weeks after news was announced of his pending suspension? This guy has all the potential in the world but can’t stop partying to make a great living playing a kids game. It’s sad but how many chances do you think he needs to get it?

  55. asimonetti88 says: Jul 29, 2014 2:58 PM

    Easy way to avoid suspension. Don’t smoke weed when you’ve been caught doing it three times before

  56. tecmoboot says: Jul 29, 2014 2:59 PM

    One too many poppy seeds on Josh’s bagel that morning :(

  57. stevieb00 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:00 PM

    This is the worst article i have ever heard. The josh gordon thing and ray rice thing are totally 2 different things. Ray rice punched his girl and josh gordon is a junky. Ray rice has never gotten himself in trouble before but josh gordon got caught using ILLEGAL drugs numerous times so, of course the punishments should be different. Common sense people!

  58. haroldballsagna says: Jul 29, 2014 3:00 PM

    That’s far too big a discrepancy between the two samples….fishy

  59. mch243 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:00 PM

    Whether pot is illegal or legal in some states doesn’t matter. It is a banned substance in the NFL drug policy. The fact someone can’t stop using while they have the priviledge to play in the NFL and make millions of dollars is what shocks me.

  60. jxt2521 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:00 PM

    How can you write this article without looking up how impossible it is to get close to that limit without actually smoking pot???? It is impossible to register even a 10 without actually smoking pot. 2nd hand smoke would barely trigger if they had a 0 limit.

    themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 29, 2014 2:34 PM

    What is it with lawyers like yourself acting all righteous and saving the wronged? Just the fact that he was over with THC in his system is enough for me considering the tolerance for a 3 peat offender should be 0 nanograms. Just by the letter of the CBA and the way it is written he is found positive. Bottle B does not have to have the same measurement but it is obviously close enough. Instead of whining that it could have been avoided by simply as the labels being on different bottles how about holding Gordon accountable for the 4th time and that he should have been abstaining and there wouldn’t be an issue? And the Draconian rules comment?? How many other people are afforded a 3 strike policy in everyday life. if you are lucky you are given 2 then you are gone. stop coddling these guys that’s the bigger problem.

  61. godofwine330 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:00 PM

    I have had people I know fail tests because of proximation to other smokers. It was only the impassioned plea from the person that allowed him to be retested and the termination lifted. He was told as I had been that you can’t “pop positive” from 2nd hand weed smoke and that was as wrong as jailhouse lawyers, of course I have no idea of the ng/ml that this test was, but you should have heard him cry. Needless to say that we spent no time around weed smokers from that time on. Hanging around with particular friends wasn’t worth losing our jobs.

    That said, I hope that Gordon is allowed to play, but he needs to evaluate his “friends” the same way my friend and I evaluated ours. We said, “I don’t care if you smoke, but don’t smoke around me if we are together or riding together. One said, “I respect that,” and another yelled expletives and said, “I’ll smoke when and where I want,” and was cast out of our group.

    Gordon should give his “friends” an even stronger ultimatum: “Don’t smoke arund me, or carry weed around me. Don’t smoke in my apartment or my car. If you can respect that we can still be friends, if not, you were never my friend in the first place and good riddance.

  62. ejheim62 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:00 PM

    10 drug tests a month? Hey, I had to take one to get my job, and it costs the company $255. That is a racket and a half! No wonder the league loves this policy – somebody’s getting a kickback and a half!

  63. timmylaz99 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:01 PM

    And I barely got her pregnant!

  64. danind says: Jul 29, 2014 3:01 PM

    so his defense is basically…I smoked weed, but the results are pretty close so that shouldn’t matter? um, how about just not smoking the week and registering 0 on the tests and not worrying about being so close to 15 and having to rely on the second bottle?

    16 or 13 on the test = you smoked weed.

  65. slambar1 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:02 PM

    two points Air traffic controllers have a limit of 50 ng, Olympic athletes a limit of 175, NFL players…15 ng, WTF! Even the disparity between the results can be cause for challenge. That’s a 10%+ difference!

  66. jimmyt says: Jul 29, 2014 3:04 PM

    Anyone else tired of every suspension now being compared to the Rice suspension?

  67. tribefan1199 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:04 PM

    I am a Browns fan and for selfish reasons, I’d love to see him escape without a suspension. However, he broke a rule that the NFLPA collectively bargained. He broke that same rule over and over again. Frankly, he deserves to get suspended for a year, no matter how narrowly he tested positive or for A or B samples. The fact remains that he should have 0.0 ng/ml of THC in his urine. He knew the consequences and made the decision to smoke up.

    The NFL isn’t “getting it right” unless they enforce the rules that have collectively bargained with the players and send Josh away for a year.

  68. corky2141 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:05 PM

    Cut it to 8 games for the weed (he did fail an agreed upon drug test, as “Draconian” as it is), and then give him 8 for the DUI. League saves face on bad policy, but still gets to suspend him for the year & Gordon gets to say he beat the system

  69. chazdenn says: Jul 29, 2014 3:05 PM

    Umm wow! This is an interesting change of events in my mind.he was one small point from not failing and the other cup he was 2. Something from not failing..if they were together or they used the other cup then he would have passed..I don’t think he should be suspended at all.but if he is.one game suspension because 2 games or more says it’s ok to knock a woman out but not to smoke a joint.nfl will pay in the PR department if they get this wrong..maybe severely..

  70. tjb114 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:08 PM

    Josh should just beat the test guy next time he knows he will fail, that way he only gets two games!

  71. chazdenn says: Jul 29, 2014 3:09 PM

    Danind,
    The point is he passed one cup failed another cup.in the shame test.that’s like taking your final exams at school and the teacher says ok.im giving you 2 tests of the exact same thing.and wich ever one is the worst that’s the one we are going by.

  72. tribefan1199 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:10 PM

    corky2141 says:

    Jul 29, 2014 3:05 PM

    Cut it to 8 games for the weed (he did fail an agreed upon drug test, as “Draconian” as it is), and then give him 8 for the DUI. League saves face on bad policy, but still gets to suspend him for the year & Gordon gets to say he beat the system

    They cannot suspend Gordon for even a minute of a game for the DUI. As a first time DUI offender, he has to be convicted first then is subject to a two game check fine. He’ll likely plea down to reckless ops which makes the DUI thing never happen in the eyes of the NFL.

  73. doughtyp says: Jul 29, 2014 3:10 PM

    It takes the average regular smoker on month of no smoking to drop below 50 ng/ml because of all of the build up of THC already in the blood. It must take even longer to drop below 15ng/ml, where Gordon was. So 15 is a zero tolerance policy.

    However, it also leads to a false positive because of the chance there is residual leftover or a high concentration in that one, specific sample of urine.

  74. Marshawn Lunch says: Jul 29, 2014 3:11 PM

    “16 or 13 on the test = you smoked weed.”

    Many of you have missed the point. Pot is against the rules in the NFL. But there is a certain amount of Marijuana that is tolerated simply because testing measures can’t get any finer than a certain amount. In this case it is 15 nanograms. So, even in an NFL where pot is against the rules, you CAN have 13 nanograms of thc in your system and be perfectly within the rules.

    It’s like a DUI. It is illegal to drive drunk. But it is okay to drink and drive – up to a limit; the legal blood alcohol limit where I live is .08. So, you can have a buzz and still get behind the wheel with no law being broken (until you start driving recklessly).

  75. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 29, 2014 3:12 PM

    @themeccalambeaufield

    Yeah i work and have never used a drug in my life. Its absolutely silly for the NFL to test for it. Is it performance enhancing no? Does it have anything to do with football no? You can sit down and shut up now.

  76. icebowler says: Jul 29, 2014 3:14 PM

    The NFL is just hurting its own brand, aka The Shield, by testing for and suspending its’ players for using non-performance enhancing substances. If the players are stupid enough to get in trouble with the law, by smoking it in vehicles for example, then that’s another matter.

  77. schmokes says: Jul 29, 2014 3:15 PM

    Doesn’t matter. Gordon was bound to get caught. If he wins this appeal, he’ll just get suspended a month from now for something else.

  78. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 29, 2014 3:17 PM

    Marshawn Lunch says:
    Jul 29, 2014 2:55 PM

    chc4 says “…IT’S PART OF THE CBA. Which means the players agreed to it and signed on the line that is dotted…”

    —–

    No. You are wrong. The UNION agreed to it. That doesn’t mean EVERY single player agreed to it. But because they are part of the union they have to go along with it.

    It’s very similar to the presidential election. It usually comes down to the difference of about 3% of the vote. So maybe 48% of the people voted for the loser. Would you blame those same 48% for the crap the new president does?? No. In political science classes it’s called “the tyranny of the majority”.

    But, the players DID agree to be part of the Union and it is in THAT sense that the players signed on to this silly CBA. But, from what is written in this article, there does NOT appear to be a specific process laid out for determining which cup is the “A” cup and the “B”cup.

    And the NFL has a very extensive list of things that cannot be in a players’ system. Combine that with the fact that players routinely get pain killing injections and take all sorts of drugs that ARE allowed by the league and you can’t just say “dude, shoulda known better”. It’s not that simple

    If you are done playing jr. lawyer let me correct you on a few things. The players do vote internally with the decision going to the majority side and then the union head officially agrees or disagrees.

    As far as your A and B cup, logic would say that A cup would be first cup filled and B would be 2nd but your clueless if you think that is grounds for a him to get off and it really is that simple.

  79. MikeisWise says: Jul 29, 2014 3:17 PM

    Shouldn’t he be getting suspended for the DUI as well anyways? Why are we pretending like that didn’t happen?

  80. sufferingbrownsfan says: Jul 29, 2014 3:18 PM

    The stars are beginning to align….Gordon will be set free! Proving Cleveland has become the center of the sports universe!!

  81. jerruhjones says: Jul 29, 2014 3:18 PM

    All that cup-peeing must have Josh parched! Get that man a beverage!

    Go Browns!!!

  82. aps110 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:23 PM

    This testing style is done for every player in the NFL and only a handful of players end up landing on the Stage III. I dont see how people can make Gordon out to be a victim here. If over 95% of the guys in the NFL can abide by the regulations why cant Gordon.

  83. jmoney2999 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:24 PM

    Just let the kid play football. He’s not using any PEDs or real drugs. Both cups should read the same amount if the system isn’t flawed. I understand he would have been fired from many other jobs or not have gotten a job for having anything in his system but come on he’s playing a game for a living. Besides the first suspension was b.s. since he had a prescription for the cough syrup. You wouldn’t have gotten laid off for that in a regular job or put on notice.

  84. drfeelyouup says: Jul 29, 2014 3:24 PM

    they should raise the level to 1 kilogram.

  85. maestro1899 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:25 PM

    As for the “DUI” everyone is talking about, he blew a .09, while the legal limit is .08.

    That could easily be reduced by the prosecutor. If that happens, the NFL won’t suspend him for that. If it doesn’t, it’s his first alcohol offense and it’s barely above the legal limit. Hopefully Roger the Dodger would do the right thing in that instance.

  86. weepingjebus says: Jul 29, 2014 3:25 PM

    Although I don’t find the prospect of dazed potheads bouncing off each other and giggling to be appealing in terms of the on-field product, there is a strong argument that denying Browns players mind-altering substances is a human rights violation.

  87. erikinhell says: Jul 29, 2014 3:25 PM

    Browns fan here. Yes, he broke the rules. Yes, he must have been smoking pot, or sitting in a room full of pot smoke. His fault. I’m very curious to see what will happen here after the Rice ruling. Two games for knocking a woman unconscious, with the NFL pushing for more female fans? Ray Lewis pled guilty to obstruction of justice in a murder case and received no suspension, not to mention his ‘deer extract’ case. The NFL should change their rules, as marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug. If anything, it will eventually slow a player down. The NFL needs to fix their suspension policies.

  88. clbrwns says: Jul 29, 2014 3:26 PM

    I want to know how in the heck you fill TWO of those at a time. I always have trouble figuring out how to put enough in one cup. Impressed.

  89. edelmanfanclub says: Jul 29, 2014 3:27 PM

    Take off that Josh Gordon mask Ryan Braun

  90. ghost26 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:30 PM

    Wow!!! He’s VERY lucky. This is the same guy who just got arrested for driving while impaired right??? Sure marijuana should be legalized but that doesn’t mean that driving under while your stoned should be.

  91. bpjensen says: Jul 29, 2014 3:30 PM

    For all those wondering about the DUI, DUI’s are dealt with under the personal conduct policy. Gordon has not had any violation of that policy, thus, he would be a first time offender under the personal conduct policy. The NFL typically allows the legal process to play out with regard to punishment under the personal conduct policy. Any punishment then may not be metered out until the legal process in North Carolina is complete. DUI’s in North Carolina resulting from a BAC of 0.09 are typically plead down to reckless driving because they are so close to the limit that securing a conviction is not guaranteed, and thus, not worth prosecuting through a trial.

    So either Gordon ends up with a DUI or reckless driving when it is all said and done. However, I cannot recall a first time offender under the personal conduct policy receiving a suspension for a DUI. The reality then is Gordon may not be suspended at all for either the positive test or DUI.

  92. JamJam says: Jul 29, 2014 3:33 PM

    It’s not that hard to follow the rules. I have no sympathy for him.

  93. ghost26 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:36 PM

    MikeisWise says: Jul 29, 2014 3:17 PM

    Shouldn’t he be getting suspended for the DUI as well anyways? Why are we pretending like that didn’t happen?

    Mike,

    Exactly. That’s what I’m saying. Just a matter of time before this kid screws up again anyway. Clearly he has some type of drug & alcohol problem.

  94. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 29, 2014 3:36 PM

    Wonder if Goodell and the owners and all NFL are subject to drug tests?

  95. ghost26 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:40 PM

    ‘ghost26 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:30 PM

    Wow!!! He’s VERY lucky. This is the same guy who just got arrested for driving while impaired right??? Sure marijuana should be legalized but that doesn’t mean that driving under while your stoned should be.’

    I apologize. Gordon was driving under the influence of alcohol not marijuana. Kid definitely sounds like he has his head on straight though. Lol.

  96. Marshawn Lunch says: Jul 29, 2014 3:41 PM

    themeccalambeaufield: You simply re-stated what I wrote. The players vote internally, as you say, but not everyone votes the same way (which was the point I was making). The majority takes the cheese while the minority has to follow suit because they agreed to participate in the Union.

    As for YOUR logic on the A cup B cup thing, you and I would agree that the first cup should be labeled A and the second cup filled should be labeled B. But there is NO PROTOCOL WHATSOEVER that states this is how the test should be conducted. And so the examiner COULD label the second cup filled as “A”. And in this case, as the article states, THAT is the difference between testing positive and not testing positive.

  97. takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Jul 29, 2014 3:41 PM

    Pretty sure he hasn’t been “convicted” of the DUI yet, only charged. I’m guessing his attorney can stall that hearing for months, and if I’m not mistaken, the league can’t do anything unless and until he is actually convicted.

  98. southpaw2k says: Jul 29, 2014 3:42 PM

    If Gordon’s suspension is reduced and/or lifted, this starts a very slippery slope for players like Justin Blackmon. Where does the NFL draw the line when evaluating positive tests or possession of illegal drugs? Marijuana is still considered an illegal drug in 48 states and by the federal government, so until that changes, the players in the NFL have to obey those laws. Josh Gordon knows this, but he’s continued to light up.

    I also have a hard time accepting the idea that the NFL would relinquish its policies on marijuana when so many employers nationwide conduct drug tests when conducting background checks on candidates applying for jobs.

  99. corky2141 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:43 PM

    @ tribefan111
    1. It was sarcasm, hard to tell in text
    2. If they can negotiate & change the rules for him on the drug test, then they could do it again for the DUI. Can’t have it both ways
    3. The NFL doesn’t give an inch unless they get a mile back

  100. puyi1028 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:45 PM

    Putting aside the specifics of the Gordon case for the moment, isn’t it a bit inaccurate to refer to the drug policy as “Draconian” or even as the “NFL’s policy” since it was collectively bargained with the NFLPA and passed by a vote of the NFLPA. If there are issues with the procedure, such as the “luck of the draw” argument discussed above related to the “A” sample and the “B” sample, the fault lies as much with the NFLPA as it does with the NFL. Also, since the drug policy was collectively bargained, including the inclusion of marijuana as a banned substance, how can it be considered “Draconian”? It can’t be The players didn’t have to agree to it as written. It might have cost them something else in the course of the collective bargaining with the League, but you can’t call it Draconian under these circumstances.

  101. takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Jul 29, 2014 3:45 PM

    Scientific studies have shown that second-hand smoke exposure can result in the kind of test results similar to those of Gordon. Because of this, Gordon’s test results would have been negative for marijuana if considered under other professional sports testing regimes — including the strict Olympic standard and Major League Baseball — the federal workplace testing standards and various state testing standards, including California and Nevada, which govern boxing and MMA.

    Quote from the 4 letter network..

  102. wrdtoyrmama says: Jul 29, 2014 3:52 PM

    Interesting to see how lawyers do their jobs looking for the technicalities….but one question, what would Gordon’s tests have measured if he was doing the right thing, and didn’t smoked marijuana at all, thus not placing his career in danger?

    Beyond the 70 tests (over what time period? 3 times a week during the season puts him over 70) a heavy smoker will take longer than 30 days to get it all out of his system. He could have been blazing like a chimney all off season, got the 30 days notice, and still not pass. Which is exactly what sounds like happened here.

  103. joe400e says: Jul 29, 2014 3:52 PM

    By sheer coincidence Goodell will okay weed when the NFLPA says yes to an 18 game schedule.

  104. justintuckrule says: Jul 29, 2014 3:57 PM

    You can give Mother Teresa 70 tests per month and she’s bound to fail one, “just because”.

  105. mightbegoingtohellforthis says: Jul 29, 2014 3:57 PM

    Marijuana has medicinal value, is not performance enhancing and is far less harmful to the body than alcohol or tobacco. The NFL should remove it from its banned substance list immediately.

  106. seasickcecil says: Jul 29, 2014 4:00 PM

    Josh next time you need some kicks forget the weed and just toss a woman out the window.

  107. nylon22 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:02 PM

    Even if Josh Gordon tested positive because of second hand smoke, he’s still exceedingly stupid for putting himself in that situation when he knows he’s being tested frequently and he has millions of dollars on the line.

  108. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 29, 2014 4:09 PM

    Ray Rice pops his fiance, 2 game suspension, 1 game check fine

    Josh Gordon, 16 game suspension, 16 game check fine.

    Only to Goodell would that make any sense at all. This sac-less wonder didnt have the sac to do an interview on ESPN about his rationale, so he sends one of his underlings to do it.

    He should be fired

  109. ahostiletakeover says: Jul 29, 2014 4:10 PM

    There was a reason he was a supplemental draft pick in the first place and it has to do with all of this. Just saying…

  110. 2bemoore43 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:10 PM

    i get that you’re disappointed in the Ray Rice decision (cry in your terrible towel if you must), but this is totally unrelated. keep your agendas to yourself please? thanks!

  111. chc4 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:13 PM

    themeccalambeaufield — What are you talking about? Every player is a member of the union so they are bound by the CBA regardless of how they voted. That’s labor law 101.

    To your second point, since I didn’t vote for Obama does that mean the ACA doesn’t apply to me? What total and utter nonsense.

    Did you just to move to this country?

  112. eleventyeight says: Jul 29, 2014 4:13 PM

    The concept of weed as having any performance-enhancing qualities whatsoever is absurd.

    After the Ray Ray Remedy, ANY infraction less devastating than being KTFO should earn zero games suspended.

    Stealing millions from players for the less-dangerous equivalent of having a few drinks is insane; how does the NFLPA tolerate this?

  113. blogatron2000 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:14 PM

    Josh Gordon is a microcosm of today’s unaccountable society.

    Instead of trying to follow the rules, he’s choosing to defend his “right” to break them. This issue is not about labeling bottles, legalizing pot everywhere or the NFL’s less than perfect testing policy, it’s about someone who thinks the rules he agreed to follow in order to play in the league and make millions should not apply to him.

    No matter what he or anyone else thinks of those rules, the point is that he broke them repeatedly and he must now stand up and be held accountable for his decisions.

    I really hope the league prevails and suspends him for a year.

  114. goodellisruiningtheleague says: Jul 29, 2014 4:22 PM

    free my mans

  115. briang123 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:23 PM

    He needs to call the collector a bigot. It worked for Braun. The first time anyway.

  116. themeccalambeaufield says: Jul 29, 2014 4:25 PM

    chc4 says:
    Jul 29, 2014 4:13 PM

    themeccalambeaufield — What are you talking about? Every player is a member of the union so they are bound by the CBA regardless of how they voted. That’s labor law 101.

    To your second point, since I didn’t vote for Obama does that mean the ACA doesn’t apply to me? What total and utter nonsense.

    Did you just to move to this country?

    Why don’t you read more closely to what I wrote> I said before the CBA is ratified the union takes a vote of the players before they agree. What has you so confused? I suspect you are talking about after ratification and the players who didn’t vote for it still have to abide but thats not what I was talking about and it is some straw man argument you are trying to make. So to answer your question I didn’t just move here but you obviously have a reading comprehension problem.

  117. sbchampsagain says: Jul 29, 2014 4:28 PM

    If Gordon didn’t smoke dope, he would be ok. Period.

    These limits, even the miniscule ones, were negotiated collectively by the players union!

    Gordon knew he was going to be tested and still chose to partake.

    It’s a good narrative PFT has going, but this actually isn’t a Gooodell f-up. It’s on the players union.

  118. cowstache says: Jul 29, 2014 4:36 PM

    What signal are you sending when a guy who smokes some weed gets banned for a year but the guy who knocked his girlfriend out, then drags her limp body to their hotel room only get’s 2 games. C’mon man, this has to stop. They should be allowed to smoke weed to take the edge off of their pain. The suspensions for Rice and Gordon should be swapped!

  119. peopletrains says: Jul 29, 2014 4:36 PM

    “Call me.” – Ryan Braun

  120. kevinb73 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:39 PM

    Tough choice:

    Smoke weed = You don’t make millions
    Don’t smoke weed = Make millions

    The fact that this is a tough choice for anyone is greatly disturbing.

  121. macbull says: Jul 29, 2014 4:39 PM

    Without a doubt, the NFL’s drug testing program is seriously flawed…and that is an understatement.

    Two bottles with the same pee sample and the results are not the same??

    Something smells at NFL headquarters…

    …someone with the NFL needs to explain how they get two different readings from “the same” sample ???

    Something is seriously wrong with the NFL’s testing procedure…there shouldn’t even be a need to appeal these testing results.

  122. thefiesty1 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:47 PM

    He tested positive (again). Enough said. Life is not fair. Take your punishment and move on.

  123. peopletrains says: Jul 29, 2014 4:47 PM

    You know what’s even more ridiculous and archaic than the NFL’s marijuana laws? Federal and state marijuana laws (except for CO and WA, of course).

    It’s too bad the future of Josh Gordon and any average person in general has to affected by such stupid laws.

    BTW… the kid is 23 years old. So saying timeless things like “…today’s unaccountable society” just makes you look outdated and crotchety. Perhaps you need to smoke a joint?

  124. peopletrains says: Jul 29, 2014 4:51 PM

    @cowstache… Totally agree. Careers should disrupted for beating women, not smoking joints.

  125. olcap says: Jul 29, 2014 4:52 PM

    Ray Rice pops his fiance, 2 game suspension, 1 game check fine

    Josh Gordon, 16 game suspension, 16 game check fine.

    Only to Goodell would that make any sense at all. This sac-less wonder didnt have the sac to do an interview on ESPN about his rationale, so he sends one of his underlings to do it.

    He should be fired
    —-

    It doesn’t make sense to Goodell either. How much imagination does one need to have, to know that such a paltry suspension/fine for knocking out your future wife and such a dreadfully unfair suspension/fine for basically not doing anything awful, but something that’s totally legal in two states, will illustrate the kind of character you’re made of?

    I actually think he is so unintelligent that he never understood that the public would see the glaring hypocrisy that he exhibits and lives each day.

  126. Bridgeh2O4ROY says: Jul 29, 2014 4:53 PM

    #2 things – #1 – quit comparing to Ray Rice. It is overplayed like a Justin Beiber song or a Jonny Manziel 20.00 dollar bill!

    #2 – 1 year ago this suspension would have held up 100%. However, the NFL is entertainment, and since this past season the supplemental draftee afterthought , better known now as Josh “thc” Gordon suddenly emerged as arguably the 2nd best receiver in the game next to Cordarrell Patterson, err , I mean Calvin Johnson (No, I don’t drink the same LSD laced water that the PFtPoet drinks from). So now, that Gordon is must see tv, and with Jonny in town, the league will suddenly take compassion for him and allow him to play 2nd half! I am a fan of football, so I would love for him to play! I could care less about right or wrong when it comes to my entertainment! If it’s a family member ot friend, then I care about their choices, but if Brad Pittt cheats on Jolie? I am still going to see a good movie!!!!
    Let’s hope all the stars from all the teams have a healthy camp, so we have some good football this season! The Vikes will be sneaky good!!

  127. corky2141 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:55 PM

    For all the enablers, including Florio, who believe it is ok to “only kinda break laws/ rules”, when does it stop? Sorry officer/ Rodger/ family, I only kinda punched her out. Sorry Rodger, I only kinda took HGH. Sorry Mr. Jones, I only kinda wrapped my vehicle around the pole and killed a colleague. Guys a full time train wreck. Breaking laws/ rules left and right, but your right, he only kinda broke the law/ rules.

  128. zerodime says: Jul 29, 2014 4:59 PM

    15 ng/ml is a positive in the NFL!! You could get that from a pot head farting. I didn’t think anyone used less than 50 ng /ml as the sample.

    Way to go CBA; you won a big on there with the wording on that one!

  129. regisphilbin says: Jul 29, 2014 5:01 PM

    I’d like to see Blackmon’s ml levels.

  130. brettfavresmidget says: Jul 29, 2014 5:04 PM

    Beats the NFL in court.

    Gets the Madden cover.

    See if the pattern doesn’t hold.

  131. angryredbird says: Jul 29, 2014 5:07 PM

    And what of the DUI but three short weeks ago?? Give him eight games and call it even.

  132. Docsavag says: Jul 29, 2014 5:31 PM

    I think the results are borderline and will likely be reversed on appeal but it amuses me that the legal argument amounts to “I smoked just enough weed to pass the test and not any more” rather than “I didn’t smoke any weed”

    I also question the NFL’s testing for this substance at all but that is a matter for the next CBA and there is no sense crying about it now.

  133. seasickcecil says: Jul 29, 2014 5:35 PM

    Gordon’s attorneys also plan to introduce witnesses who will testify that Gordon’s scores indicate he was the victim of breathing in second-hand smoke, according to sources. The league has maintained that it does not intend to suspend players for second-hand smoke.

    Scientific studies have shown that second-hand smoke exposure can result in the kind of test results similar to those of Gordon. Because of this, Gordon’s test results would have been negative for marijuana if considered under other professional sports testing regimens — including the strict Olympic standard and Major League Baseball — the federal workplace testing standards and various state testing standards, including California and Nevada, which govern boxing and MMA.

  134. uglydingo says: Jul 29, 2014 5:38 PM

    Watch Josh Gordon get off. The difference in test results between bottle A and bottle B, means that the test should be quashed. The testing process must be flawed.
    It’s premature for Josh and Browns fans to get excited but there is a huge hole for the attorney to exploit.

  135. seasickcecil says: Jul 29, 2014 5:48 PM

    And lastly, Gordon’s attorneys also will point out that with their client being subject to over 70 drug tests, there was only one time since his rookie year that a test came back positive for marijuana, and even then, the “A” and “B” samples did not match.

  136. JaminJake says: Jul 29, 2014 5:53 PM

    It’s amazing. All of this over a little THC. When the US legalizes marijuana, we will look back at Josh Gordon as a what could have been and someone who got screwed by the system.

    The fact that Ray Rice got only two games is appauling. While what Gordon and Rice did was illegal, only Rice’s actions are morally flawed.

    Should be interesting seeing what happens when the CBA is up. Owners can laugh now, but players hearing how unfair this deal is for its entire duration will only piss them off once they get to the negotiating table. NFL has way more to lose than the players, but they continue to operate in the grey area.

  137. coltzfan166 says: Jul 29, 2014 5:53 PM

    Gordon needs help as a person. Sometimes playing football is better for a person like him….going to training camp and always traveling and practicing with his team, is better for him than keeping him away from everything for a year. Who knows what kind of trouble he could find if he has nothing to do for a year.

  138. dartwick says: Jul 29, 2014 6:35 PM

    This is beyond stupid.

    As long as you arent arrested for drugs and you dont come to work high – no one should care if you have weed in your system.

    I say this and I think weed is unhealthy and discourage people from using it.

  139. chc4 says: Jul 29, 2014 6:53 PM

    themeccalambeaufield — Ok so your point just is totally irrelevant. It doesn’t matter how each individual player voted. Once ratified they are bound by the CBA. And every player knows the rules. Get popped for weed and you’re screwed. There is no gray area. Maybe Gordon should go play in the CFL where only PEDs are tested for.

  140. seasickcecil says: Jul 29, 2014 7:12 PM

    Yes their is grey area. As I posted above the NFL has said that they will not punish for second hand smoke. Experts will testify that Gordons results were because of second hand smoke. Do you listen to what experts tell you or just suspend him anyway. Sounds pretty grey to me.

  141. bingobrown12 says: Jul 29, 2014 7:29 PM

    Anybody siding with Gordon either has him on a FF
    roster or is a Browns fan.

  142. billsfan1 says: Jul 29, 2014 7:44 PM

    No. You are wrong. The UNION agreed to it. That doesn’t mean EVERY single player agreed to it. But because they are part of the union they have to go along with it.

    It’s the same as politics. The union represents the players, so in essence, the players agreed to the Cba because their representation did. But thanks for playing.

  143. infectorman says: Jul 29, 2014 8:59 PM

    Same Attorney as Shermanator?
    He’ll be fine.

    “If the cup is crack,
    the test Whack is Whack!”

    - Richard – Cochran – Sherman

  144. radar8 says: Jul 29, 2014 9:01 PM

    I hate it when people get off on technicalities.

    Sherman took PED, but his lawyer got him off on a technicality. He should have been fined and missed games like his team mates.

    Now, Gordon did smoke, and got caught, but may get off on a technicality.

    I think that the rules suck, but it applies to all players. Gordon screwed up.

    Fix the rules…..Marijuana is definitely not a PED. It definitely does not enhance a players performance. It may make them think that they are faster and stronger, but they will be slower and weaker. SO let the teams police their own for marijuana.

    PEDs are a different story.. PED are pure cheating… like Lance in the TDF. Sherman got away with murder. Let’s see how he does without the drugs this year (if he isn’t still taking them).

  145. nigellino says: Jul 29, 2014 9:08 PM

    Wow. If Gordon doesn’t win this appeal, I bet he’ll be really pissed.

  146. swdrummerboy57 says: Jul 29, 2014 11:22 PM

    If he was playing for Baltimore, it wouldn’t be an issue. With Ray Lewis getting off and Rice getting off, it would be a no brainer.

  147. fairhooker43 says: Jul 30, 2014 1:16 AM

    I think after 70 or so test and one is barely over and one is under should account for something. And leave the DUI out of it. He still has his day in court. FREE JOSH!!!!! Lets see what Roger does with Irsay!

  148. bleedorange59 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:38 AM

    Now . . . Having been one of the very few that did NOT pre-judge Josh Gordon based on little to no information with regard to this “rumor” of ongoing “addiction” . . . having heard now for weeks, multiple media members label him, judge him, categorize him, and file him as a hopeless addict, and going on to report their opinions as to how his problem should be handled . . . from being cut . . . to never playing in the NFL again . . . (Of the writers I read, and listen to, Scott Petrak is the ONLY one that I EVER heard mention that all these opinions are based on pure speculation) . . . What I want to see now, is how many of these condescending knucleheads will step up and apologize for the disgusting way they have reported this story, based on no real information at all. Regardless of the reality of the mistakes Josh has made, behaving like a 21 yr. old, nobody has the right to judge him, especially on made up facts. I’ll be surprised if any of them speak up.

  149. pittsburghdamned says: Jul 31, 2014 4:13 AM

    Mmmmmm…Iron City Beer…

  150. netrider44035 says: Aug 5, 2014 2:40 AM

    They should add 16 + 13.6 divide by 2 and get an average of 14.8 which is below the threshold of 15. Josh Gordon should consider himself lucky and pay closer attention to how close he gets to those who smoke if he wants to keep making big money and have a future career in the NFL. Especially tell them not allowed in your car. Duh.

  151. mariosegal says: Aug 7, 2014 2:52 PM

    I used to think he was going to and should be suspended, given the DUI arrest ad the stop with other having Pot, etc.
    However – as I read this I am not so sure – first of all no test is that precise, a reading of 15.1 or 14.9 does not really mean that is the true concentration of anything- there is always a margin of error whether it is a baby thermometer, a drug test, etc. – so it does seem that one would want both tests to be positive for a suspension
    However, the NFL and most police departments apply rules on the basis that they are 100% perfect (above the limit is not likely above the limit, it is believed to be positive proof) – likely they will negotiate something

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