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Manziel takes a training-camp detour to a tavern

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Before the draft, Johnny Football was all about football, working out and studying and spending every waking moment getting himself ready to be as attractive as he possibly could be for an NFL team.

After the draft, Johnny Football became Johnny Vegas and Johnny Bieber and Johnny Rolled-Up-Hundy and everything but a guy who was all about football.  That supposedly was going to change once training camp opened, with Manziel buckling down and focusing on becoming the best football player he can be.

And so on the night before the first day off at training camp, Manziel reportedly was spotted at a bar roughly two miles from the team’s headquarters, according to Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal.

As Ulrich points out, the behavior goes against the notion that “Work Hard, Play Harder” would yield to “Work Hard, Work Harder” once camp opened.  It also contradicts the prediction of former Texas A&M teammate Mike Evans.

“In training camp, I don’t think he’ll go out at all,” Evans said in June.  “He’ll be committed and devoted and fighting for a starting job.”

The photo posted online at BustedCoverage.com shows nothing controversial or even all that interesting.  It’s a dude at a bar with a “crap, I think someone may be taking my picture with a camera phone” look on his face.

It’s only an issue because Manziel’s lifestyle and the team’s evolving reaction to it — from “we don’t care” to “tone it down” to “we’re alarmed” — creates a potential connection between Manziel’s actions away from the field and the Browns’ willingness to allow him to take the field in games that count.  Especially with most of the organization seemingly ready to drive Brian Hoyer down to Canton this weekend for inclusion in the new class of Hall of Famers.

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64 Responses to “Manziel takes a training-camp detour to a tavern”
  1. Kyle Johansen says: Jul 30, 2014 4:19 PM

    Just ridiculous. Let the guy be. If he wants to go to a bar before his off-day there is nothing wrong with that. The fact that this is being reported is just ridiculous.

  2. bradyisyourdaddy says: Jul 30, 2014 4:19 PM

    I dunno man… Let the kid drink a beer on Friday night, right?

  3. 4thquartermagic says: Jul 30, 2014 4:21 PM

    This “work hard, play hard” rationale is ridiculous.

    If I pay you millions of dollars and you haven’t earned one penny, how about you just work hard.

  4. Donald Whitaker says: Jul 30, 2014 4:21 PM

    Maybe he was getting food. Why do you people (the media types) care so much?

  5. niko0063 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:22 PM

    No one cares about the other players with him

  6. scoops1 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:22 PM

    Noone made a big deal when LT went to the bar before a game to snort a few lines….

  7. fballguy says: Jul 30, 2014 4:23 PM

    Brian Hoyer doesn’t see a problem with it.

  8. laxer37 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:28 PM

    “Who cares if the guy wants to drink a beer?” said Brian Hoyer while at home studying his play book.

  9. theauger says: Jul 30, 2014 4:29 PM

    “I’m shocked & surprised!”

  10. simplesimon1 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:29 PM

    What’s the difference? As far as everybody seems to be saying, he isn’t going to be starting anytime soon anyways, so it’s not as if he has to get ready to play right away…LOL

  11. hehatemyfootballteam says: Jul 30, 2014 4:29 PM

    These fans are crazy, I was at training camp this past Sunday and after practice fans were screaming for Manziel to sign autographs. The funny thing is that Hoyer had the better practice, hit more receivers and looked more polished. This infatuation is unbelievable. Like lemmings over a cliff.

    On a side note I asked Terrance West if I should draft him in fantasy and he said it would be a really good idea…Will be interesting competition between him and Tate .

  12. jda129 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:30 PM

    The perception is that he relaxes way too often. When you think of SB winning QBs you think of guys that spend their spare time trying to perfect their craft not just when camp is in session or the season underway.

  13. cajunaise says: Jul 30, 2014 4:33 PM

    “Tavern”…ha.

    Was he there to discuss the monarchy’s affairs over some smashing grog?

  14. patssox says: Jul 30, 2014 4:33 PM

    Priorities.

    What list does Johnny Manchild best fall into:

    Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees

    JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovich

  15. simplesimon1 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:33 PM

    This is starting to get stupid, honestly.

    It’s kind of like Suh. If he says to not talk to his teammates about his contract so he’s not a distraction, there’s an article talking about how much of a bad teammate we’re sure he is and how it’ll probably come out now. But, nobody seems to freak out on others who are actually holding out of camp right now, despite they have a contract still.

    It’s hypocritical to hold players to a level and bash them when they do the exact same thing others players do. At least be level with your assessment.

    It’d be like giving a guy a full year suspension for drugs, or another 4 games for trying to get his wife pregnant and using a banned product, yet only giving 2 games for knocking your wife out…. Oh wait…

  16. youngosays says: Jul 30, 2014 4:35 PM

    who doesn’t enjoy a beer after work

  17. mvp43 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:35 PM

    Funny how you never see Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Luck hanging out at bars during camp. Just sayin……….

  18. bbb82 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:37 PM

    I really dislike Manziel, but this story is ridiculous. The guy is literally just sitting at a bar minding his own business.

  19. tennesseeoilers says: Jul 30, 2014 4:37 PM

    Actually, I think it’s training camp that was the detour …

  20. bassplucker says: Jul 30, 2014 4:40 PM

    This is who he is. The Browns knew this (I think) when they drafted him. Now they have to sit back and see how it plays out because at this point either nobody is giving him wise counsel, or he’s simply not listening.

  21. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: Jul 30, 2014 4:42 PM

    Did he get into a fight with Orlando Bloom?

  22. nyneal says: Jul 30, 2014 4:42 PM

    I couldn’t care less what Manziel does. To me, he’s just a nobody and a 2nd string QB on a perennial lousy team.
    Why he gets all this media coverage is beyond me.
    Once he proves he’s a bust in the NFL, he’ll be spending a lot more time in saloons. Or maybe he can hook up with Tim Tebow and get some religion.

  23. r8rsfan says: Jul 30, 2014 4:43 PM

    Might be time for LeBron to take this kid under his wing.

  24. bunjy96 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:43 PM

    Why can’t some of you see, it’s a pattern, and not a good one

  25. 69finfan says: Jul 30, 2014 4:44 PM

    I think Johnny should go to the Tavern everyday if he wants to. That way his distractions will stop Florio from piling on the Dolphins so much.

  26. thegreatjimbrown says: Jul 30, 2014 4:45 PM

    In friggin High School his dad promised to buy him a car if he would stop drinking for junior and senior year. Got some nice wheels, but got caught smelling of alcohol. Dad sold the car, bought him a junker pick-up.

    Still hasn’t learned.

  27. salmen76 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:45 PM

    Go Johnny!

  28. soleman50 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:45 PM

    Man are you obsessed with him or what!! You come off as a stalker, when it comes to your daily of what is Johnny doing!!

  29. blacknole08 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:46 PM

    It’s only an issue because Manziel’s lifestyle and the team’s evolving reaction to it — from “we don’t care” to “tone it down” to “we’re alarmed” — creates a potential connection between Manziel’s actions away from the field and the Browns’ willingness to allow him to take the field in games that count.

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    I disagree. He was right down the street at a local tavern, not in Vegas or LA. What’s wrong with having a few after work?

    NFL players go to strip clubs after work. Just guys being guys.

  30. blacknole08 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:48 PM

    I don’t think he is a troublemaker but trouble seems to find him.

    Johnny Trouble… that has a good ring to it.

  31. duluthvikesfan says: Jul 30, 2014 4:48 PM

    Being that he’s a rookie, he probably should be doing right by the team and avoiding such places. However, it seems to me that we used to hear a lot of wild & crazy stories about what the players in the old days would do at night while in camp. Didn’t seem to hurt any of them.

  32. kracker315 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:49 PM

    Let the guy be. I dont think he can take a pee without people reporting it at this point… I just dont understand it….

  33. floodoobious says: Jul 30, 2014 4:50 PM

    BUST

  34. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 30, 2014 4:52 PM

    There have been 13 Michigan State QBs drafted in the history of the NFL (one selected to be a CB however), and none have made the HOF. Hoyer went undrafted so what a story it would be if he was inducted one day. Tough odds considering the circumstances.

  35. Stiller43 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:54 PM

    I dislike the Browns (and Manziel), but sheesh, cant a man of age sit down and enjoy a beer when he’s not required to be elsewhere?

  36. phillyphan420 says: Jul 30, 2014 4:54 PM

    This shouldn’t be a big deal…unless you’ve continuously made questionable move after questionable move in about two month’s time and before you’ve even taken a snap in an NFL training camp.

  37. bhlobos says: Jul 30, 2014 4:56 PM

    Like most of us, I’ve had my “play hard” moments… those do NOT include having a beer after work with a buddy before a day off. That’s called relaxing.

  38. mrbigass says: Jul 30, 2014 4:56 PM

    AL-KEE-HALL-ICK.

    I double dog guarantee this guy has a drinking problem and I’ll bet a dollar to a doughnut he ends up this year in some jam related to alcohol.

    You read it here first people. Now just hide and watch…..

  39. txtuff says: Jul 30, 2014 4:57 PM

    How does the night BEFORE THE START of training camp = DURING training camp? Get a grip Mike.

  40. coachbeck says: Jul 30, 2014 5:01 PM

    Lol Cleveland

    How bad is it that brian hoyer is actually looking good.

    Just let Manziel play.

    No Gordon, tank the season, figure out if he is your guy. And either draft a wr if he is or a qb if he isn’t

  41. veence69 says: Jul 30, 2014 5:28 PM

    Teddy Bridgewater was still on the board.

  42. brownoholic says: Jul 30, 2014 5:32 PM

    Hoyer! Hoyer! Hoyer!

  43. fordmandalay says: Jul 30, 2014 5:33 PM

    This is my shocked face; (O.O)

  44. urbusted2 says: Jul 30, 2014 5:49 PM

    Talk about hype and more hype.

  45. nopepper123 says: Jul 30, 2014 5:52 PM

    Just heard a great interview with Drew Brees and he was asked how long he thought he could continue to play. His response was that he could for a long time because he’s taking care of his body mentally and physically everyday with a proper routine. Not so sure Johnny Pinball, I mean Football is sharing the same kind of dedication.

  46. citizenstrange says: Jul 30, 2014 5:55 PM

    Johnny Jack ‘n Coke

  47. gadgetking2010 says: Jul 30, 2014 5:56 PM

    all 4 QB’s in camp were at the bar together

  48. justintuckrule says: Jul 30, 2014 5:56 PM

    I heard Hoyer gave JM a few free drink chips.

  49. spittabeatz says: Jul 30, 2014 6:17 PM

    Its not a huge deal but seeing how he is a rookie and he just had a month to go out and enjoy himself I think he should be staying in and learning the playbook, its time to buckle down here but he seems like he is not the type that is going to work hard enough to be great.guys like Brady and manning work hard to get where they are at, manziel has gotten by on his athletic ability, he is in for a rude awakening.

  50. In Teddy We Trust says: Jul 30, 2014 6:23 PM

    Nothing wrong with going to the bar after work, unless you’ve created a major distraction by spending every minute off the football field partying. Maybe Johnny should hit the playbook and order in some pizza just to keep the media jackals off his back. I don’t think the kid has a clue.

    Meanwhile, Teddy Bridgewater has done everything right and is on track to start Week 1.

  51. mackcarrington says: Jul 30, 2014 6:39 PM

    Since people are going to report that he was at a bar, they might as well report on what he had to drink and how much he drank. Let’s have it all.

  52. surfinbird1 says: Jul 30, 2014 6:46 PM

    Somebody at camp used the word draft and that sounded like a good idea to Johnny.

  53. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 30, 2014 6:59 PM

    It’s funny how people in society today love to be involved in the news. The moron that took the pic and reported it to the Akron fish-hack, is probably bragging to his friends that he/she made the news about Johnny.

    I mean do people seriously have nothing else to do than act like gossipy schoolgirls. I mean this has reached the point of lunacy.

    If you can’t handle him Browns, trade him to Dallas, and get another 1st round pick in next year’s draft, and then screw that pick up too.

    The Browns are the most incompetent organization, most soap – opera like organization in all of professional sports

  54. kudzuwish says: Jul 30, 2014 7:24 PM

    I see the Vikings fans are out in full force to bash Johnny and talk up Teddy, but if Spielman actually landed the trade he was so desperately trying to make to get Johnny you’d be singing a different tune.

  55. juliusanonymous says: Jul 30, 2014 7:35 PM

    Man, I don’t hate Johnny Manziel or even dislike the kid (in fact, I’m kinda rooting for him), but this would raise some legitimate concerns about his dedication to football if I was his coach. During Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck and RGIII’s rookie camps, it was reported that all 3 were studying around the clock, and watching film during their food breaks. They all understood that big jump to the pro game required everything they had, and you can see that if you go back and read the interviews with them and their coaches. And they STILL struggled in their rookie campaigns.

    Johnny Manziel needs to understand that if he wants to succeed, he can’t afford to take much downtime. He should be competing relentlessly for that starting job. This isn’t Texas A&M, kid. You’re not going to be facing a few good players and a ton of nobodies. Every single player on the field will be better than anyone you faced in college. Every player is on another level, athletically and mentally. Every player at every position is faster, stronger, bigger and smarter than anyone you faced in college and they want to make you look foolish. They want to be the guy that smashed “Johnny Football” face first into the turf and then got up and did the money sign in his face. This is the NFL, kid.

    I just don’t see him beating out Hoyer. Hoyer looked good last season, has had time to develop, and works hard at his craft. And like Mike Holmgren said, in this modern NFL, you only get a year or two to prove yourself. And generally only one shot. Guys like Tebow and Manziel might get two shots because of the hype, but that’s it. This kid needs someone to slap him around, wake him up, and help him realize how serious this is. The next job he coasts into will be some hack marketing job where he’ll be bragging about his college career to a bunch of younger chicks who just don’t care. But hey, you wanna be Al Bundy… don’t let me stop you.

  56. Kaz says: Jul 30, 2014 8:02 PM

    It’s training camp. You’d think he would be resting up, studying, training his body. That’s what you want out of your qb (regardless of what Browns fans have to say to defend the pick). But if you can’t shake that urge to drink then at least grab something from the local liquor store and bring it back to the hotel. A couple young fellow rookies who don’t have the wiggle room to be caught out drinking during camp and keep their job could have used a swig.

    Then you can argue it was a bonding moment.

  57. axespray says: Jul 30, 2014 8:27 PM

    Ryan Leaf partied… that worked?

  58. robkiss1234567890 says: Jul 30, 2014 8:43 PM

    All the browns fans ragging on J on a daily basis for not being a prototypical rookie robot, you better be careful for what the wish for. Everyone keeps putting this undue pressure on him to watch what he says and watch what he does (talking to you media), I fear that he will lose some of that magic, that swagger that makes him special. When it becomes a problem on the field then go ahead…guy hasn’t played a game yet..let him be who he is, so we can see the real johnny on sunday. Then we can talk.

  59. aa1829 says: Jul 30, 2014 9:06 PM

    Relax everyone, that wasn’t Manziel, that was Alfred E. Newman. I lived in Canton for 3 years, and I really feel sorry for the Browns fans. They are real football fans, who are passionate, knowledgable, and dedicated. They deserve better in their quest for a real QB.

    Go Packers.

  60. nicofthenorthstar says: Jul 30, 2014 9:46 PM

    He doesn’t get it. Not in the least. Given the circumstances, you just don’t do it. DON’T. GO. OUT. DRINKING.
    It is okay to stay home, do your homework, and get a little extra sleep before the first day of your multimillion dollar job.

    Vikes got the good one.

  61. 2difshoe says: Jul 30, 2014 11:12 PM

    Rodgers, Manning, Brady

    Bieber, Lohan, Manziel

  62. pittsburghdamned says: Jul 31, 2014 3:32 AM

    Haha. No selfies are ever taken in a dumpy Cleveland bar, are they Johnny ?

    I feel for you. To make it all the way to the NFL only to be picked by the Browns.

  63. phillyphan420 says: Aug 1, 2014 10:24 AM

    brownsmakemecrazy says:
    Jul 30, 2014 6:59 PM
    It’s funny how people in society today love to be involved in the news. The moron that took the pic and reported it to the Akron fish-hack, is probably bragging to his friends that he/she made the news about Johnny.

    I mean do people seriously have nothing else to do than act like gossipy schoolgirls. I mean this has reached the point of lunacy.

    If you can’t handle him Browns, trade him to Dallas, and get another 1st round pick in next year’s draft, and then screw that pick up too.

    The Browns are the most incompetent organization, most soap – opera like organization in all of professional sports.

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    You are blaming Manziel’s questionable work ethic, immaturity, and extreme lack of self-awareness on the Browns and the regular Joe Schmoe? That’s a new take on the situation I haven’t heard before…

  64. patbetw says: Aug 1, 2014 2:37 PM

    He’s in Cleveland for cryin out loud. I’d be in the bar all the time if I was stuck in Cleveland.

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