Josh Gordon hearing concludes

AP

After 9.5 hours on Friday and another three on Monday, the hearing on Josh Gordon’s appeal of a one-year suspension has concluded.

Under the substance-abuse policy, a ruling must be issued by hearing officer Harold Henderson within a “reasonable time.”  The current expectation is that a decision will come in a week or so.

Until a ruling is issued, it’s possible that the two sides will work out an agreement that would impose something less than a year but more than zero games.  Without a settlement, the rules contemplate an all-or-nothing decision from Henderson.

Meanwhile, Gordon remains eligible to participate in training camp and preseason games.  If he is suspended for a year, the decision becomes immediate and final.

65 responses to “Josh Gordon hearing concludes

  1. Can we please know what it is already? This is not helping us out at all by dragging this along. I know it seems good, the longer it drags out, but I feel it is hurting the team by not knowing.

    Just Sayin’…Go Brownies!

  2. Josh Gordon should be suspended for the same duration as Ray Rice, or less. It would be laughably sad to see Gordon get a punishment 8 times worse than a guy who beat a woman unconscious.

  3. What could possibly necessitate 12+ hours over two days in regards to this appeal? Seems like a pretty cut and dry issue here.

  4. No way this kid gets a year. The Ginger Hammer isn’t stupid. He knows what kind of national interest potential Johnny Football to Josh Gordon could generate. Cleveland hasn’t had that kind of Buzz since White Castle still had a draw bridge and a moat.

  5. I like how every Gordon defense starts by totally ignoring the DUI he got less than a month after his 1 year suspension was handed down.

    Must have been 2nd hand drunk too right?

  6. Let me save the suspense. See you next year, Josh. Shouldn’t be getting suspended for something stupid as weed, but also, who flunks a weed test in this day in age? I just hope they go ahead and roll this up (sorry for the pun) withthe DUI, and this guy can get some help while he’s on the sidelines so he doesn’t become the next lost talent story.

  7. Agree Josh doesnt deserve much time for his suspension, but can people quit saying Ray Rice beat his wife, i believe he pushed/hit her once. Last i check a beating is equal to what Chris Brown and the seahawks did to their respective victims. I completely disagree with his actions, but i rather people not be ignorant. #GoNiners #Nobodyhasitbetter

  8. Rodger should make this call without looking at Josh’s test, just like not viewing the video from inside the elevator Ray Rice was in….. If you ignore the evidence once it should be the same every time.

  9. Meanwhile Cordarrelle Patterson is becoming the next Josh Gordon without the off-field problems.

    Norv Turner joined the better team.

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    Right, Gordon pasted 1600+ ytds in 14 games, including back to back 200+ yd games, and you’re comparing Patterson to him?

    Watch much sports?

  10. The NFL could immediately end this hypocrisy by simply sending out a press release saying, “We are no longer going to test NFL players for THC.”

  11. but also, who flunks a weed test in this day in age?

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    You do know weed stays in your body 25-30 days right? And you also know that drug test are random, right?

    Great, now do the math!

  12. bucsmightbegood says:
    Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM
    Josh Gordon should be suspended for the same duration as Ray Rice, or less. It would be laughably sad to see Gordon get a punishment 8 times worse than a guy who beat a woman unconscious.
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    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least bit though as the NFL’s supposed “morals” mirror this country’s.

    Look at how there are mandatory sentences for non-violent drug offenders that have over populated prisons to the point that there isn’t room for violent criminals whom end up back on the streets committing more violent acts

  13. The rules governing this matter are found in the CBA which was agreed upon by the League and Player’s Association. What ever the rules indicate are to be followed as per the CBA. That means Josh Gordon is screwed.
    However, as with all CBAs in labor negotiations, what the public and media don’t seem to realize is these rules can be amended at any time during the term of the Agreement if both sides enter into a ‘memorandum of understanding’ which would be attached to the CBA and change the provisions of the Agreement until the term is concluded and negotiations start again. In such a case, the League and PA could agree to increase the limits of detectable levels of substances and Gordon may not be as screwed as the current rules dictate.

  14. He led the league in yards last year after being suspended 2 games, leave him alone & he will set records!

  15. biggestredmiami says:Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM

    Not a performance-ehancing drug, not a domestic violence crime, and not a DUI…

    One year suspension makes absolute sense here.

    Hopefully they do consider his DUI in the next hearing. 1 year for this, his third offense, another year for his recent arrest. Dudes a clown, what a joke.

  16. I have little sympathy for athletes who can’t stay clean to protect their livelihood, but this is so broken. First the whole sample “a” verses sample “b”, then the incredibly minute positive indication, then the amazing variety of sentences passed out this year with little or no regard for severity of offense. Much as I hate it, don’t suspend anymore people until you sort this process out and fix it.

    (remember the Williams wall taking a banned substance because the label didn’t indicate it was in there?)

  17. Watch – Josh Gordon is going to win his appeal on a technicality. He needs to be working on his fitness because he will be on the field very soon.
    The different test results, bottle A vs bottle B means the testing protocol is flawed. The NFL cannot suspend him for a year based on an obvious flawed protocol. The tester made some mistake and Josh will get off. If suspended for a year he will have a very strong legal case to sue the NFL (and the NFL knows it).

  18. May not be fair in comparison to other suspensions but it is fair in comparison to similar instances. He is not the first guy to get a year off from failing too many drug tests, wont be the last. He should be suspended on stupidity alone if nothing else.

  19. No way they can let this turn into a minimum 1 year. 1st the NFL has dragged it on way to long. 2nd Ray Rice. 3rd The disparity of THC in the same stream of piss. 4th He was taking and passing 2 tests a week for the past year and if he did smoke the amount of THC would’ve read over 10x’s what it did. Lastly, if everything about the test that pit him into Stage 3 is correct then he was put there because of a prescription that his doctor gave him; not exactly showing a real ongoing problem.
    If you want to look at the DUI as a part of the problem think about this; he registered a .09 which 3 years ago was not illegal and amounts to approx. 2-3 beers in most people. How many of us have had a few beers and did not feel the least bit drunk and drove home. Forget about the sobriety tests given at the scene that we never hear about because only thing that matters is the Breathalyzer.

  20. @biggestredmiami – The problem here is that he’s been warned several times. He wouldn’t be facing a one year suspension if it were a first or second time offense.

  21. Comparing his suspension to Ray Rice or anyone else is ignorant. He’s a repeat offender. There are clearly defined rules/laws in place and Josh completely ignored them. He’s the only one to blame here. By the way, I too, believe that Ray Rice received a punishment that is utterly embarrassing and despicable!

  22. You morons need to look up what COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT means.

    And stop bringing up Ray Rice. Dummy

  23. You do know weed stays in your body 25-30 days right? And you also know that drug test are random, right?
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    I thought they had a set dates on the drug tests. And you don’t get an additional one unless it is warranted?

  24. Nobody cares about silly things like binding contracts with clear-cut guidelines for drug testing and the penalties for failing drug tests. Pot should be legal! As if that has anything to do with whether or not the NFL wants their employees smoking it.

    That said, legalize it! And suspend Josh Gordon. Because otherwise the CBA is kinda just a piece of paper.

  25. Josh Gordon’s own worst enemy is not the upcoming suspension. It’s himself.

    If the NFL gives him another shot, why would anyone think Gordon would do anything BUT throw it away?

    Seems like all this affort fighting the ruling is going to be meaningless if he gets “one more shot.” He’s already GOTTEN “one more shot” and messed it up.

  26. Ray Rice should have gotten a year plus counselling! If Gordon gets suspended the league is a joke…. And will not see another penny of my money

  27. if he dosn’t get a year then d washington should automaticly get the same as him. so he better get a year or the cards can sue ole rog.

  28. Even if Josh Gordon’s drug abuse suspension gets reduced he will probably face another one for his DUI.

  29. Forget the weed, you guys are apparently condoning driving while intoxicated. Guess its okay that he decided to put his life and any others on the road that night in North Carolina in jeopardy? I doubt you’d be singing the same tune if he’d plowed into a vehicle with a family in it.

  30. Forget the weed, you guys are apparently condoning driving while intoxicated. Guess its okay that he decided to put his life and any others on the road that night in North Carolina in jeopardy? I doubt you’d be singing the same tune if he’d plowed into a vehicle with a family in it.

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    Not to belittle your serious statement, but he blew a .09. Only .01 over the legal limit. Let he who hath not driven slightly buzzed cast the first stone.

  31. I thought they had a set dates on the drug tests. And you don’t get an additional one unless it is warranted?

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    Nope!

    Up to 10 per mth when your in stage 3 and random means you don’t know the date.

  32. The best would be to have the decision come after most Fantasy drafts just to mess with everyone.

  33. “but he blew a .09. Only .01 over the legal limit. ”

    Lol, classic Browns fan logic.

    Nevermind that these same hypocrites are trolling every Rice article calling for his head on a platter.

    The law, the CBA, none of that matters to Browns fans. Just going 5-11.

  34. If Gordon were a ravens player, he wouldn’t get punished at all. Goodall would be claiming, ” He hasn’t hurt anyone but himself,” blah blah blah.

  35. If only he had knocked his joint unconscious in a hotel lobby instead of smoking it. We all know what the penalty for that is don’t we?

  36. One sample was clean and the other was very weak. I believe he was around it but didn’t toke. He’s tested clean 70 times before that. Two games max.

  37. If Gordon were a ravens player, he wouldn’t get punished at all. Goodall would be claiming, ” He hasn’t hurt anyone but himself,” blah blah blah.
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    Yes, I’m sure the league deals out penalties based on which team it is…

    What are you? Five?

  38. “Not to belittle your serious statement, but he blew a .09. Only .01 over the legal limit. Let he who hath not driven slightly buzzed cast the first stone.”

    Really dude? Really? And since I’ve never driven drunk I will be more than happy to cast the first stone. My old roommate used to do it all the time and it pissed me off more than anything. You have zero respect for yourself and society as a whole if you are driving drunk. And just like in “The Next Episode” I do smoke weed every day but I don’t drive around high either anymore despite the fact that it effects me completely differently than alcohol. Never thought I’d see the day when people shrug off DUI/DWIs.

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