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Josh Gordon hearing concludes

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After 9.5 hours on Friday and another three on Monday, the hearing on Josh Gordon’s appeal of a one-year suspension has concluded.

Under the substance-abuse policy, a ruling must be issued by hearing officer Harold Henderson within a “reasonable time.”  The current expectation is that a decision will come in a week or so.

Until a ruling is issued, it’s possible that the two sides will work out an agreement that would impose something less than a year but more than zero games.  Without a settlement, the rules contemplate an all-or-nothing decision from Henderson.

Meanwhile, Gordon remains eligible to participate in training camp and preseason games.  If he is suspended for a year, the decision becomes immediate and final.

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  1. drfeelyouup says: Aug 4, 2014 3:16 PM

    Free dat man.

  2. thepftpoet says: Aug 4, 2014 3:16 PM

    Meanwhile Cordarrelle Patterson is becoming the next Josh Gordon without the off-field problems.

    Norv Turner joined the better team.

  3. biggestredmiami says: Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM

    Not a performance-ehancing drug, not a domestic violence crime, and not a DUI…

    One year suspension makes absolute sense here.

  4. coonsqualler says: Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM

    Can we please know what it is already? This is not helping us out at all by dragging this along. I know it seems good, the longer it drags out, but I feel it is hurting the team by not knowing.

    Just Sayin’…Go Brownies!

  5. bucsmightbegood says: Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM

    Josh Gordon should be suspended for the same duration as Ray Rice, or less. It would be laughably sad to see Gordon get a punishment 8 times worse than a guy who beat a woman unconscious.

  6. lehooper says: Aug 4, 2014 3:19 PM

    “Don’t bogart that point my friend, pass it over to me”

  7. DaveKShape says: Aug 4, 2014 3:21 PM

    What could possibly necessitate 12+ hours over two days in regards to this appeal? Seems like a pretty cut and dry issue here.

  8. dalcow4 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:22 PM

    “Whew! That took forever. Time for a smoke.”

  9. thestrategyexpert says: Aug 4, 2014 3:23 PM

    So 12.5 hours of fascinating television that we’ll never get to toke in.

  10. cpitch12 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:25 PM

    who we kidding .hes playing…then Irsay gets slap on wrist….tisk …tisk…tisk…

  11. tattooit says: Aug 4, 2014 3:26 PM

    No way this kid gets a year. The Ginger Hammer isn’t stupid. He knows what kind of national interest potential Johnny Football to Josh Gordon could generate. Cleveland hasn’t had that kind of Buzz since White Castle still had a draw bridge and a moat.

  12. si1m says: Aug 4, 2014 3:29 PM

    I like how every Gordon defense starts by totally ignoring the DUI he got less than a month after his 1 year suspension was handed down.

    Must have been 2nd hand drunk too right?

  13. realfootballfan says: Aug 4, 2014 3:31 PM

    Let me save the suspense. See you next year, Josh. Shouldn’t be getting suspended for something stupid as weed, but also, who flunks a weed test in this day in age? I just hope they go ahead and roll this up (sorry for the pun) withthe DUI, and this guy can get some help while he’s on the sidelines so he doesn’t become the next lost talent story.

  14. ctiggs says: Aug 4, 2014 3:33 PM

    Agree Josh doesnt deserve much time for his suspension, but can people quit saying Ray Rice beat his wife, i believe he pushed/hit her once. Last i check a beating is equal to what Chris Brown and the seahawks did to their respective victims. I completely disagree with his actions, but i rather people not be ignorant. #GoNiners #Nobodyhasitbetter

  15. sandersmarcus10 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:33 PM

    6 games!

  16. ronarch13 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:34 PM

    Rodger should make this call without looking at Josh’s test, just like not viewing the video from inside the elevator Ray Rice was in….. If you ignore the evidence once it should be the same every time.

  17. borisbulldog says: Aug 4, 2014 3:37 PM

    Meanwhile Cordarrelle Patterson is becoming the next Josh Gordon without the off-field problems.

    Norv Turner joined the better team.

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    Right, Gordon pasted 1600+ ytds in 14 games, including back to back 200+ yd games, and you’re comparing Patterson to him?

    Watch much sports?

  18. chawkup says: Aug 4, 2014 3:39 PM

    The NFL could immediately end this hypocrisy by simply sending out a press release saying, “We are no longer going to test NFL players for THC.”

  19. borisbulldog says: Aug 4, 2014 3:40 PM

    but also, who flunks a weed test in this day in age?

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    You do know weed stays in your body 25-30 days right? And you also know that drug test are random, right?

    Great, now do the math!

  20. joeflaccoallday says: Aug 4, 2014 3:40 PM

    #FREEJOSHGORDON

  21. neurorit says: Aug 4, 2014 3:40 PM

    bucsmightbegood says:
    Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM
    Josh Gordon should be suspended for the same duration as Ray Rice, or less. It would be laughably sad to see Gordon get a punishment 8 times worse than a guy who beat a woman unconscious.
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    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least bit though as the NFL’s supposed “morals” mirror this country’s.

    Look at how there are mandatory sentences for non-violent drug offenders that have over populated prisons to the point that there isn’t room for violent criminals whom end up back on the streets committing more violent acts

  22. niles6590 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:41 PM

    The rules governing this matter are found in the CBA which was agreed upon by the League and Player’s Association. What ever the rules indicate are to be followed as per the CBA. That means Josh Gordon is screwed.
    However, as with all CBAs in labor negotiations, what the public and media don’t seem to realize is these rules can be amended at any time during the term of the Agreement if both sides enter into a ‘memorandum of understanding’ which would be attached to the CBA and change the provisions of the Agreement until the term is concluded and negotiations start again. In such a case, the League and PA could agree to increase the limits of detectable levels of substances and Gordon may not be as screwed as the current rules dictate.

  23. pfu2 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:42 PM

    He led the league in yards last year after being suspended 2 games, leave him alone & he will set records!

  24. 11whodey says: Aug 4, 2014 3:42 PM

    biggestredmiami says:Aug 4, 2014 3:17 PM

    Not a performance-ehancing drug, not a domestic violence crime, and not a DUI…

    One year suspension makes absolute sense here.

    Hopefully they do consider his DUI in the next hearing. 1 year for this, his third offense, another year for his recent arrest. Dudes a clown, what a joke.

  25. goooooobrowns says: Aug 4, 2014 3:42 PM

    Wow, the NFL appeals process is like the UN General Council. Seriously, how long does it take?

  26. lgbarn says: Aug 4, 2014 3:44 PM

    Dude should stop celebrating 4-20 while playing professional sports. Not that hard.

  27. gylven says: Aug 4, 2014 3:44 PM

    check again ctiggs because ray rice beats his wife…she looked terrified of him at that press conference

  28. ragnarthegreat says: Aug 4, 2014 3:47 PM

    I have little sympathy for athletes who can’t stay clean to protect their livelihood, but this is so broken. First the whole sample “a” verses sample “b”, then the incredibly minute positive indication, then the amazing variety of sentences passed out this year with little or no regard for severity of offense. Much as I hate it, don’t suspend anymore people until you sort this process out and fix it.

    (remember the Williams wall taking a banned substance because the label didn’t indicate it was in there?)

  29. uglydingo says: Aug 4, 2014 3:50 PM

    Watch – Josh Gordon is going to win his appeal on a technicality. He needs to be working on his fitness because he will be on the field very soon.
    The different test results, bottle A vs bottle B means the testing protocol is flawed. The NFL cannot suspend him for a year based on an obvious flawed protocol. The tester made some mistake and Josh will get off. If suspended for a year he will have a very strong legal case to sue the NFL (and the NFL knows it).

  30. vietnambob2473 says: Aug 4, 2014 3:50 PM

    May not be fair in comparison to other suspensions but it is fair in comparison to similar instances. He is not the first guy to get a year off from failing too many drug tests, wont be the last. He should be suspended on stupidity alone if nothing else.

  31. westcoastbuckeye says: Aug 4, 2014 3:58 PM

    No way they can let this turn into a minimum 1 year. 1st the NFL has dragged it on way to long. 2nd Ray Rice. 3rd The disparity of THC in the same stream of piss. 4th He was taking and passing 2 tests a week for the past year and if he did smoke the amount of THC would’ve read over 10x’s what it did. Lastly, if everything about the test that pit him into Stage 3 is correct then he was put there because of a prescription that his doctor gave him; not exactly showing a real ongoing problem.
    If you want to look at the DUI as a part of the problem think about this; he registered a .09 which 3 years ago was not illegal and amounts to approx. 2-3 beers in most people. How many of us have had a few beers and did not feel the least bit drunk and drove home. Forget about the sobriety tests given at the scene that we never hear about because only thing that matters is the Breathalyzer.

  32. heh8metoo says: Aug 4, 2014 3:59 PM

    @biggestredmiami – The problem here is that he’s been warned several times. He wouldn’t be facing a one year suspension if it were a first or second time offense.

  33. dickshotdogs says: Aug 4, 2014 4:07 PM

    Comparing his suspension to Ray Rice or anyone else is ignorant. He’s a repeat offender. There are clearly defined rules/laws in place and Josh completely ignored them. He’s the only one to blame here. By the way, I too, believe that Ray Rice received a punishment that is utterly embarrassing and despicable!

  34. nbarber2013 says: Aug 4, 2014 4:10 PM

    Drugs you get 1 year. Knock your wife out cold and it’s two games. Hmmmmm?

  35. MikeisWise says: Aug 4, 2014 4:13 PM

    You morons need to look up what COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT means.

    And stop bringing up Ray Rice. Dummy

  36. johnnyjagfan says: Aug 4, 2014 4:16 PM

    If he doesn’t get suspended I’m keeping him over Peyton Manning in my one-player keeper league.

  37. akboot says: Aug 4, 2014 4:18 PM

    You do know weed stays in your body 25-30 days right? And you also know that drug test are random, right?
    =========================
    I thought they had a set dates on the drug tests. And you don’t get an additional one unless it is warranted?

  38. realitycheckbaby says: Aug 4, 2014 4:20 PM

    Josh, got one word for you…

    Whizzinator!

  39. warhammer420 says: Aug 4, 2014 4:32 PM

    A year suspension for using a leaf that nature intended us to use. Man I bet they’d suspend a guy for life if he beat his wife. Oh wait…

  40. jayblack073 says: Aug 4, 2014 4:33 PM

    Free Josh!

  41. micknangold says: Aug 4, 2014 4:43 PM

    Nobody cares about silly things like binding contracts with clear-cut guidelines for drug testing and the penalties for failing drug tests. Pot should be legal! As if that has anything to do with whether or not the NFL wants their employees smoking it.

    That said, legalize it! And suspend Josh Gordon. Because otherwise the CBA is kinda just a piece of paper.

  42. seanpbeck says: Aug 4, 2014 4:43 PM

    What could possibly take another week? If the hearing ended today, I would expect a decision…today.

  43. isphet71 says: Aug 4, 2014 4:51 PM

    Josh Gordon’s own worst enemy is not the upcoming suspension. It’s himself.

    If the NFL gives him another shot, why would anyone think Gordon would do anything BUT throw it away?

    Seems like all this affort fighting the ruling is going to be meaningless if he gets “one more shot.” He’s already GOTTEN “one more shot” and messed it up.

  44. johnnyontario says: Aug 4, 2014 4:53 PM

    Ray Rice should have gotten a year plus counselling! If Gordon gets suspended the league is a joke…. And will not see another penny of my money

  45. horsepedlr says: Aug 4, 2014 4:53 PM

    if he dosn’t get a year then d washington should automaticly get the same as him. so he better get a year or the cards can sue ole rog.

  46. comebacksonics says: Aug 4, 2014 4:56 PM

    Look ladies you all seem to be forgetting one thing. And that one thing is that the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS WILL REPEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  47. lbcoach34 says: Aug 4, 2014 5:12 PM

    what does ray rice feel the lenght of the suspension should be?

  48. pittsburghfan71 says: Aug 4, 2014 5:13 PM

    Even if Josh Gordon’s drug abuse suspension gets reduced he will probably face another one for his DUI.

  49. ahostiletakeover says: Aug 4, 2014 5:21 PM

    Forget the weed, you guys are apparently condoning driving while intoxicated. Guess its okay that he decided to put his life and any others on the road that night in North Carolina in jeopardy? I doubt you’d be singing the same tune if he’d plowed into a vehicle with a family in it.

  50. gotdressedinabooth says: Aug 4, 2014 5:58 PM

    puff, puff, pass the judgement

  51. bigblu73 says: Aug 4, 2014 6:28 PM

    AND YES………IT’S PRONOUNCED GOR-DON

  52. browntown33 says: Aug 4, 2014 6:43 PM

    Forget the weed, you guys are apparently condoning driving while intoxicated. Guess its okay that he decided to put his life and any others on the road that night in North Carolina in jeopardy? I doubt you’d be singing the same tune if he’d plowed into a vehicle with a family in it.

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    Not to belittle your serious statement, but he blew a .09. Only .01 over the legal limit. Let he who hath not driven slightly buzzed cast the first stone.

  53. borisbulldog says: Aug 4, 2014 6:47 PM

    I thought they had a set dates on the drug tests. And you don’t get an additional one unless it is warranted?

    ————————————————

    Nope!

    Up to 10 per mth when your in stage 3 and random means you don’t know the date.

  54. macbull says: Aug 4, 2014 6:52 PM

    Free Josh Gordon…

    Suspend Roger Goodell indefinitely !

  55. ducksk says: Aug 4, 2014 6:55 PM

    Snoop dog of the league.

  56. omegalh says: Aug 4, 2014 6:56 PM

    The best would be to have the decision come after most Fantasy drafts just to mess with everyone.

  57. si1m says: Aug 4, 2014 7:03 PM

    “but he blew a .09. Only .01 over the legal limit. ”

    Lol, classic Browns fan logic.

    Nevermind that these same hypocrites are trolling every Rice article calling for his head on a platter.

    The law, the CBA, none of that matters to Browns fans. Just going 5-11.

  58. realdealsteel says: Aug 4, 2014 7:20 PM

    If Gordon were a ravens player, he wouldn’t get punished at all. Goodall would be claiming, ” He hasn’t hurt anyone but himself,” blah blah blah.

  59. tonydero says: Aug 4, 2014 8:12 PM

    I have Josh Gordon in Dynasty…I kinda need to know pretty soon here.

  60. jdrewsy says: Aug 4, 2014 8:15 PM

    If only he had knocked his joint unconscious in a hotel lobby instead of smoking it. We all know what the penalty for that is don’t we?

  61. phillyfinsfan says: Aug 4, 2014 9:33 PM

    One sample was clean and the other was very weak. I believe he was around it but didn’t toke. He’s tested clean 70 times before that. Two games max.

  62. theravenlives2 says: Aug 4, 2014 10:08 PM

    If Gordon were a ravens player, he wouldn’t get punished at all. Goodall would be claiming, ” He hasn’t hurt anyone but himself,” blah blah blah.
    =============================
    Yes, I’m sure the league deals out penalties based on which team it is…

    What are you? Five?

  63. ravenousravenousrhinos says: Aug 4, 2014 10:11 PM

    Thanks you person #657289 letting us know that if his suspension is longer than Ray Rice’s it would be ridiculous. We haven’t heard that enough.

  64. joshkopman says: Aug 5, 2014 1:06 AM

    The best WR in the game today needs to play. ’nuff said.

  65. ahostiletakeover says: Aug 5, 2014 10:49 AM

    “Not to belittle your serious statement, but he blew a .09. Only .01 over the legal limit. Let he who hath not driven slightly buzzed cast the first stone.”

    Really dude? Really? And since I’ve never driven drunk I will be more than happy to cast the first stone. My old roommate used to do it all the time and it pissed me off more than anything. You have zero respect for yourself and society as a whole if you are driving drunk. And just like in “The Next Episode” I do smoke weed every day but I don’t drive around high either anymore despite the fact that it effects me completely differently than alcohol. Never thought I’d see the day when people shrug off DUI/DWIs.

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