Bon Jovi’s letter backfires

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The fans have spoken, via a PFT Poll showing that nearly 80 percent don’t believe Jon Bon Jovi would keep the Bills in Buffalo. On Tuesday’s PFT Live, Tim Graham of the Buffalo News shared some of the reaction from folks directly connected to the team.

As Graham explained, terms like “stupid” and “ridiculous” were used to describe a letter that has done nothing to improve the public confidence in Bon Jovi’s candidacy to buy the franchise.

Graham also doesn’t buy Donald Trump’s bluster that he made a $1 billion, all-cash bid. Since the initial expressions of interest entailed bids that were expressly non-binding, anyone could bid anything, without regard to whether he has the liquidity to write a check transferring $1 billion without any financing.

For more from Graham regarding the state of the efforts to sell the team and the performance of the roster on Sunday night in Canton, grab the mouse and slide the cursor over the triangle in the square in the rectangle below.  In the same way that Bon Jovi possibly wants to slide the Bills from Buffalo to Toronto.

98 responses to “Bon Jovi’s letter backfires

  1. Queue the unoriginal Bon Jovi song references that in no way relate to the subject of the article, but people think they’re clever posting.

  2. What the fans want matters little to the people involved. The one overriding factor is who will pay the most money for the team.

  3. Bon Jovi Trying to slip in a Trojan Horse with Toronto Ownership hiding in it through the peace bridge no thanks where there is smoke there is fire

  4. Seeing as how I don’t have a pony in this race, from the outside, it seems as though the NFL is getting a pass here.

    Whether it’s Bon Jovi or Bono who buys the team, it’s up to an owners vote to give permission to move the team.

    If the NFL wants the Bills to move in order to grow the game, it’s going to happen.

  5. Humorous that Bon Jovi is the one getting the heat when he merely fronts the Toronto group (which wants to move the team to Toronto). Fans ignore that the current owners are willing to sell to a group which wants to move the team to Toronto. Fans ignore that the NFL wants the team to Toronto.

    But keep on blaming the rock singer– that’ll change everything….

  6. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if you’re talking about the highest bidder wins, the MLSE group still doesn’t win if the have Bon Jovi as the lead owner. He has to have 30% and he doesn’t have nearly enough.

  7. Queue the unoriginal Bon Jovi song references that in no way relate to the subject of the article, but people think they’re clever posting.

    ————-

    ♫Shot through the heart, and you’re to blame… ♫

  8. I am not a Bills fan, but I feel bad for the fans, living in limbo like this. I hope all works out for Bufffalo and thier fans.

  9. As an AFC east opponent, I have no love lost for the Bills, but this is sad. I hope for the good fans up in western NY they get a decent owner who does right by them. Bon Jovi and Trump, could there be two bigger clowns?

  10. Who cares what the fans think or want. I hope he wins the bidding now. This is a media jin up, who cares if he moves them…. If you don’t want them to move then build a stadium.

    Stop crying. If your city doesn’t want to do what’s necessary, then there will be others that will. Same goes for Oakland.

    Cleveland should have not gotten their 3rd team after they failed to keep the browns.

  11. Jovi and Trump, could there be two bigger clowns?

    _____________________

    Obama and Biden?

  12. thepftpoet says: Aug 5, 2014 2:20 PM

    Queue the unoriginal Bon Jovi song references that in no way relate to the subject of the article, but people think they’re clever posting.

    ——-

    Don’t get so sensitive about Jon Bon Jovi. Cordarrelle probably thinks he sucks anyways.

  13. thepftpoet says:
    Aug 5, 2014 2:20 PM

    Queue the unoriginal Bon Jovi song references that in no way relate to the subject of the article, but people think they’re clever posting.

    —————————————————–

    Don’t worry PFT poet……………..I’ll be there for you

  14. I love the idea of an NFL team moving to Toronto. It would be great for the NFL.

    Though I also want the Bills to stay there. Imagine the rivalry between Buffalo and Toronto. Oh man.

  15. Goodell’s Green Glasses says:
    Aug 5, 2014 2:46 PM
    Poor Buffalo. Having to choose between Trump and Bon Jovi. What a sick joke.
    ===
    Uhh, Terry Pegula says what’s up.

  16. Pftpoet

    Queue the unoriginal Bon Jovi song references that in no way relate to the subject of the article, but people think they’re clever posting.

    Bahaha, poet doesn’t like irrelevant posts being made. Oh, the irony.

  17. As a Canadian, the absolute last thing I want is Toronto to get the Bills. Another team from TO that the national sports networks would jam down our throats and tell us we have to like them because they’re Canadian. No thanks. Please stay in Buffalo. Actually, can we move the Blue Jays and Raptors to Buffalo too?

  18. The population of Buffalo is around 260,000. Add in surrounding areas and it’s probably about 400,000. If everyone comes up with $2500 bucks, you can by the the team yourselves and rake in the profits every season.

  19. And the population of Toronto and surrounding area is over 5,000,000. Where would you want to run a pro sports franchise, a city of 260,000 or 5,000,000? Can’t argue the business side of it. I honestly thought Buffalo was bigger.

  20. If Jon Bon’s reading this it must feel like a shot through the heart…

    Or like he just swallowed some bad medicine…

    He probably just wants to runaway…

    City of Buffalo wants this guy dead or alive… Mostly dead…

  21. Better to have an NFL team in Toronto than London… and the NFL wants to go international. Sorry Bills fans, it’s not all about what you want, sad to say. “Progress” means fundamentally changing, screw tradition and what the “little guy” wants.

  22. You people need to relax!

    Tim Tebow has submitted his proposal to buy the team and to be their starting quarterback for years to come!

    Amen, Brother

  23. Southern Ontario already keeps the Bills’ stadium full with their season ticket share and the loss of homes games to Toronto in recent years began the inevitable move out of that city. How about just following the Angel’s lead of MLB and re-naming them the Buffalo Bills of Toronto.

  24. “And the population of Toronto and surrounding area is over 5,000,000. Where would you want to run a pro sports franchise, a city of 260,000 or 5,000,000? Can’t argue the business side of it. I honestly thought Buffalo was bigger.”

    Yeah, but it’s Canada. There’s really nothing else to say.

  25. I am reminded every time I read these posts that stupid is actually over-represented here.

    Then again, whenever the “right-wing” shows up in numbers, stupid is always going to be way over-represented.

    Here’s a crazy idea – wait to hear the issue before you decide which side you take. Now, that would require you to actually engage your brain…. First time for everything.
    Easier just to let the person talking on the teevee tell you what to think. Enjoy your life in the 99%.

  26. Bon Jovi as an NFL owner is a joke.

    And, his clarification letter left so many backdoor opportunities that whoever wrote it, and it was certainly not Jonny Boy, ought to be sued for malpractice or breach of contract.

    Trump as an NFL owner would be outstanding. He does everything top notch.

  27. Where is Buffalo Springfield in all of this? Apparently, he must have all of his interests in Springfield and left Buffalo for his buddy Bon Jovi.

  28. I’ve never been to the Bills stadium is it that outdated that it warrants a new stadium or is it a NFL “I want one,” or is it a selling point to the Bills.

  29. “I am reminded every time I read these posts that stupid is actually over-represented here.

    Then again, whenever the “right-wing” shows up in numbers, stupid is always going to be way over-represented.”

    What in the hell are you talking about? Keep your politics out of here. Besides, I think I hear Pelosi calling you.

  30. huskywolverine says:
    Aug 5, 2014 3:19 PM
    As long as Nickelback doesn’t place a bid, I’ll be happy.

    ___________________________

    Or Bieber (and hopefully that is the last I speak or type that puke’s name).

  31. Bon jovi can’t buy the team. In order to be the “owner” he would have to contribute 30% of the sale costs. With all indications showing the bills will go for roughly 1.5 billion, Bon jovi would have to kick in around 420 million out of pocket. Forbes has his net worth at roughly 500 million. He just doesn’t have the liquidity to buy the way Pegula does. This team will be Terry’s. He has the liquidity, the desire, and the backing of the fan base.

  32. So you have a team in Buffalo that averages 60-70,000 people per game. When they play games in Toronto they average 40-50,000. Rabid fan base in WNY… Talking about building them a new stadium in WNY…

    Outside of getting to see Rob Ford eat wings every weekend on TV, I can’t see why you’d move them.

  33. To anyone spitting out population stats between buffalo and Toronto, the numbers mean nothing. Pittsburgh and Green Bay are two of the smallest markets in the NFL but the teams have some of the biggest followings. It doesn’t matter where you are located if you consistently put a winner on the field.

  34. Doesn’t Canada already have a league? And they evidently have so many people playing that they use 12 men on the field.

  35. stillers213 says: Aug 5, 2014 2:55 PM

    The population of Buffalo is around 260,000. Add in surrounding areas and it’s probably about 400,000. If everyone comes up with $2500 bucks, you can by the the team yourselves and rake in the profits every season.
    …………………..
    This misconception highlights EXACTLY why people are completely misguided and mistaken as it relates to the Bills viability long term in their market.

    Yes, Buffalo only has 260k. But the Buffalo statistical metro area has 1.2 million. It also direcly borders the Rochester statistical metro area which has 1.1 million. Then factor in another few hundred thousand in surrounding cities in Southern Ontario which are within 45 minutes of the border (notice this doesn’t include Toronto).

    We’re now talking within 90 minutes an area between 2.5-3 million people. This changes the game in terms of their market, enormously. The fact the city of Buffalo only has 260k is irrelevant. Don’t believe me? See: Greeen Bay Packers for reference.

  36. stillers213 says:
    Aug 5, 2014 2:55 PM
    The population of Buffalo is around 260,000. Add in surrounding areas and it’s probably about 400,000. If everyone comes up with $2500 bucks, you can by the the team yourselves and rake in the profits every season.
    ===============

    The Buffalo metropolitan area has a population of 1.1M according to the 2010 census…not 400K. Just sayin

  37. And the population of Toronto and surrounding area is over 5,000,000. Where would you want to run a pro sports franchise, a city of 260,000 or 5,000,000? Can’t argue the business side of it. I honestly thought Buffalo was bigger.

    Actually the Greater Toronto area population as of 2008 was 6 million, projected as 9 million by 2036

  38. Nobody wants or cares for Bon Jovi and his Toronto acquaintances.

    Pegula owns both the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits, he was a Bills season ticket holder when he lived in Orchard Park, can buy the team with his own money, and is the perfect fit to own this team.

    To the poster that was talking about population…just because Toronto has 5,000,000 people doesn’t mean they are all football fans. Buffalo might have 260,000 but the population of Erie County is 1,000,000+.

  39. chilomane says:
    Aug 5, 2014 2:23 PM

    I don’t trust anyone wearing a captain’s hat even if they’re acting.
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    YOU CALL THAT ACTING??!!

  40. It’s been said on here before and I’ll say it again, if the lowly Clippers who probably have not had more than 5 or 6 winning seasons in 30 years of existence and are only 1/3 owners of Staples center (I assume that’s correct, as there are 3 teams that call it home) can go for 2 billion, the bills should be sold for allolllllllllot of money.

  41. A PFT Poll showing that 80% of fans don’t believe Bon Jovi would keep the Bills in Buffalo?

    I hope this news gets to the Bills owners! Because when they find out they’ll never sell the team to him!!!

  42. Bills fans should embrace Bon Jovi, he will do everything in his power to bring a championship to buffalo. Look what he did for the Philly Soul. CHAMPIONSHIP!! Whats a few miles anyway?

  43. So, the other day I’m listening to the Howard Stern Show and to open the show there is usually a comedy bit and a piece of music. This particular day was Bon Jovi singing, “Live and Let Die”. Listen to the song: he clearly can’t sing, thinks he’s too good looking, And he can’t be the golden New York boy if he’s going to move the team.

    In other words I don’t know who buys his records, but if he says he’s not going to move the team, I would assume is going to move the team.

  44. He’s seen a million faces and rocked them all. ALL OF THEM. And that was only like 1987. Who knows how many faces he’s rocked since then. I’m pretty sure his face-rocking proficiency extends to football-team-owning excellence. You just gotta give it a shot, and live for the fight when that’s all that you’ve got.

  45. The people of Buffalo deserve to keep their team. They’ve supported them, shown up for outdoor games in December through the cold and snow even though the team hasn’t had success in a long time.

    A number of their fans always travel to Foxborough when they play the Pats and they are good people (I’ve enjoyed tailgating with many Bills fans over the years).

    I would hate to see the Bills move from Buffalo.

  46. People seem to overlook the fact that the NFL really doesnt care about fans. It cares about the fans’ $$$ but not their opinions. Just look at Goodell’s decision-making which 95% of the time runs counter to the majority of fans’ opinions. Goodell is probably the most hated Commissioner in NFL history because of how he has continued to ruin the game. The league doesnt care about us as fans. It only wants our hard earned cash. Thats the bottom line.

  47. The irony here is that Buffalo Bill himself actually lived in Toronto for a while, never in Buffalo.

  48. Apparently the NFL has determined that in about 10 years or so, The Ralph will not be up to standards and a new stadium will be needed. So it seems the pressure would be on the politicians to come up with a stadium solution regardless of who owns the team. Say for example , if Bon Jovi’s group bought the team, and in the next 4 or 5 years there was a definite plan for a new stadium, would they be justified in walking away from that? How could they? So if the taxpayers get off their butts and finance a new stadium right now, that would guarantee that NOBODY would be taking the Bills anywhere.

  49. Trump is simply glorifying in the free publicity of putting down a non-existent bid with a non-existent billion dollars. The NFL should call his bluff and conditionally accept his bid and watch him backpeddle faster than Patrick Peterson. This is what Trump does, he glombs onto the latest flash in the pan national interest and rides the free publicity tour while not spending a cent. Remember his presidential bid, taking advantage of the gullible Tea Partiers by becoming a Birther and demanding to see the birth certificate, or running for governor? He’s a clown and always will be a clown who consistently declares bankruptcy.

  50. Obviously, a lot swooning high school girls didn’t get an opportunity to vote in this poll…

  51. The last thing the NFL should do is allow a blatant, ignorant, hate-spewing, cowardly racist like Trump to own a football team. And since the NFL is a business and not the government they can do just that.

  52. Being a life long Pack fan, imagining the nfl without buffalo would be devastating.

    I am pulling for new investors to closely work with the city, county, and state to come up with alternatives to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

    Viva la Bills de Buffalo.

  53. As a Browns fan i will never forget which two teams had our backs in the vote in 1995 to move the Browns to Balt. Pittsburgh and Buffalo. Always had respect for both teams since. Browns fans need to support the Bills this time. Keep the team in Buffalo.

  54. The NFL doesn’t care what the fans think in Buffalo. They didn’t care what the fans in Cleveland felt, or the Raiders and Rams fans in LA. They didn’t care about St. Louis fans when the Cards packed up and moved to Arizona and when Indy slid out of Baltimore. This is business on a billion dollar scale. If the Bon Jovi group wins the bid and they’re locked into the lease on the stadium, they will hold Buffalo hostage until a new one is built. The people in Toronto don’t want the NFL, they have the CFL and a team already. Unless you’re Green Bay, fan ownership is intangible and the guy/gal with their name on the charter ultimately makes the call. Browns fans learned the hard way, bellyaching did nothing except get the history put in a trust. If you want someone to stay, you gotta make their stay worthwhile and that probably means an new stadium.

  55. I think anybody who buys the bills is suspect of moving the team because, face it, nobody wants to play in buffalo when there are so many better markets! Sorry buffalo fans

  56. This is a complicated situation being made worse
    By Morgan Stanley. Look Bon Jovi as the lead owner
    Needs 30 percent as the majority owner.
    That means he needs 300 Million.
    Bon Jovi would have to sell everything
    He owns to have enough money to do
    A 1 Billion Dollar Bid.

    Terry Pegula has about 5 Billion in cash
    His wife is from Rochester NY.

    He has been a season Ticket Holder
    Of the Bills and Sabres. He is a die
    Hard fan of these 2 teams.

    He grew up loving them. He cares deeply
    About this region. He owns the Buffalo Sabres
    NHL team, Buffalo Bandits Major league
    Lacrosse team. The American Hockey League
    Rochester Americans Hockey team.
    Terry donated 102 Million Dollars to Penn state
    Collage to build there hockey stadium
    And get them to division 1.

    If you think Jerry’s World stadium is
    Great. Wait until you see what Terry
    Pegula has planned for the City of Buffalo
    Is new bills Stadium will make Jerry’s
    World look like a slum.

    He owns most of the inner harbor on the lake
    And plans to build a entertainment complex
    That will rival any complex any where in the
    USA. This would include a new Bills domed
    Stadium that would host Superbowls, Ncaa
    Football and basketball Championships,
    Political conventions and concerts and many
    Other things.

    His goal is to transform the Western NY
    Region back into the regional power
    It once was. With the shortage of fresh
    Water in the USA. The Great Lakes region
    Is poised to become a economical power
    House line it one was at the turn of the Century
    When the Erie Canal was built across upstate
    NY. Fresh water will soon become the booming
    One of the most important resources to have
    As we move forward in time.

    Terry Pegula money source of income
    Is natural Gas. He just digs more natural gas wells
    On his land And he gets Billions more.

    It’s like he has a license to print Money

    The New York State would love to see
    Pegula get the team. The reason
    Pegula would build his own stadium
    With out tax payer Money.

    So let’s set the record stright

    The NFl would never approve Trump
    Because of the USFL stuff

    Bon Jovi group can’t bid over 1 Billion
    Because Bon Jovi does not have.
    The 30 percent as lead owner.

    To top all this the lease with Erie county
    And NY State says the Bills can not sell
    The team to anyone that even hints that
    The team could be moved.

    So the Bills are here 2 stay in Buffalo
    Until 2022.

    This thing is over. Terry Pegula just sold
    1.7 billion dollars in natural Gas 6 months
    Ago. He closed on the deal. He has that money
    Set aside to buy the Buffalo Bills.

    No other buyers will come forward
    To break the lease you would have to
    Go to court and Sue NY state
    And Erie County and then pay 600 Million
    To the state and county.

    Then by the Buffalo Bills for more than
    1.7 Billion. Because that is what Pegula
    Is prepared to bid them up to.

    Then if the buyers from Toronto
    Or Los Angles did finally get the team they would have to
    Get 1 billion to build a stadium.

    So do you really think anyone else is going to
    Own this Buffalo Bulls team.

    Bon Jovi should stop embarrassing him self
    And bow out gracefully.

    Note just so you know many people who are uninformed
    About this area of the country. Between Buffalo, Rochester Ny
    And Southern Ontario there are 5 million
    People who live less then 90 minutes
    From the Bills stadium.

    The bills are always in the top 3 teams in the
    Nfl for local team TV ratings.

    In the last 18 months NY state has invested
    Over a Billion Dollars in the Buffalo NY market

    This city is on it’s way back. It’s one of the best
    Places in the USA to raise a family. Housing
    Is inexpensive and jobs are coming back

    So for those who like to put buffalo and western
    NY your just never made a visit. Great food, great
    People. Lots of out door stuff to do. Hunting, fishing
    Biking it’s a very rual area. The 2nd biggest wine region
    In the USA out side of Nappa Valley , CA
    Lives in western NY in the finger lakes region.
    If you can get past the 4 months of winter
    It’s a dream place to live.

    The Bills are Buffalo they are woven
    Into the fabric of our lives. They are important
    You never would move the steelers or packers
    Would you. How about Denver when there
    Sold. I don’t think so. I have no problem
    With Toronto or Canada getting a team.
    But it should be an expansion team.

    Note Ralph Wilson Stadium just had a
    150 million dollar renovation.
    It’s one of the best places on earth
    To view a football game. The stands are very
    Close to the field. And it’s by far the biggest
    And best place to tailgate.

    Come on NFL fans please support
    Our proud City and Football team

  57. I wouldn’t say it “backfired” in any meaningful way for one simple reason:

    No one, and I mean no one, cares what the fans think. The decision as to a) who buys the team, and b) what they do with it, will be based solely upon money.

    I don’t understand what people don’t understand about this.

  58. The population of Buffalo is around 260,000. Add in surrounding areas and it’s probably about 400,000. If everyone comes up with $2500 bucks, you can by the the team yourselves and rake in the profits every season.

    50 13

    or the population at the 2010 census was 1,544,794..

  59. I’m just going to say what everybody in Buffalo is thinking..

    In Terry We Trust. Actually, I should say in the Pegulas we trust because his wife is just as much an advocate for the area as he is.

    Buffalo is revitalizing itself and much of it has to do with the Pegula’s….Many of you dont care but Buffalo is becoming a hotbed for USA Hockey….Things are looking up except taxes but that is not entirely Buffalo’s fault.. That is a NY State issue.

  60. Ive been to over 18 NFL stadiums as a Steeler follower and I got to tell you going to Buffalo on Sunday was one of the greatest times I had. From the tailgating to the kegs on the corners of the street. They were very down to earth die hard blue collar people. I personally think it would do the NFL injustice moving this team. And BTW the owner of an NFL team does not need the owners vote to move a team. Look at the Raiders with Al Davis and Art Modell. They had no backing from any owners and they still moved. Canada will always be a hockey country and a curling country and the NFL don’t like taking the backseat to any sport.

  61. They move to Canada.
    A team gets formed in London.
    Will they change the name from National to International?

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