Manziel draws attention from medical staff, stays in game

AP

It was inevitable.  But it wasn’t expected to happen so quickly.

Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel, whose reckless style helped him become one of the best players in college football, has been equally reckless during his first NFL preseason game.  On at least two occasions, he has run the ball and put his head down with defenders approaching.  Manziel also took a big hit after throwing a pass.

Via multiple reports on Twitter, Manziel drew the attention of the team’s medical staff following that hit.  But after being examined by a doctor and an athletic trainer, Manziel re-entered the game.

And he promptly completed a 14-yard pass, took another shot on an incompletion, scrambled for 16 yards before wisely sliding to a stop, kicking up a cloud of rubber pellets on the Ford Field turf, and extending a series by sprinting to the sticks on fourth and short.

But Manziel didn’t get a chance to finish the effort with points.  The drive died on the next play, with a fumble from running back Dion Lewis.

But for the fumble, that pretty much summarizes what Manziel has always done.  The key for him at the NFL level will be developing an ability to keep getting up and playing after taking solid hits from NFL-caliber defensive players.

117 responses to “Manziel draws attention from medical staff, stays in game

  1. Love mike pettine. I really want him to succeed. I watch that game and although it is only the first preseason game hoyer gives you a better chance long term without a doubt. Manziel cannot read an nfl defense. Alarms should be sounding all over Cleveland tonight. I think they may be hitching their wagon to the wrong qb. I hope I am wrong.

  2. He looked like he belongs, he just needs to get experience with the offense. The Browns shouldn’t rush him. It will be nice to see him with Gordon, Cameron, Austin & Baby Hawk! Browns rookie RB West looked real good!

  3. Love mike pettine. I really want him to succeed. I watch that game and although it is only the first preseason game hoyer gives you a better chance long term without a doubt. Manziel cannot read an nfl defense. Alarms should be sounding all over Cleveland tonight. I think they may be hitching their wagon to the wrong qb. I hope I am wrong.

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    youknowI’mright, you is WRONG! I’ve watched this entire game, and JF is outdoing Hoyer in every aspect. Hoyer had the 1st string offense, JF has the second string and has still made more dynamic plays.

    JF keeps playing like this and Hoyer will be #2.

  4. Yo son this kid looks good for being his first NFL game ever. Its hard not to cheer for him if your not a complete hating tool bag..

  5. I’ve never seen anyone as exciting on the football field than Johnny Manziel in college. Still a big question whether he is able to be as effective in the pros…

  6. He “looks good”?

    Five (or was it six?) drives against the Lions #2 and #3 defense. Three points.

  7. Even as a Raven fan, Johnny scares me. I really don’t know what to expect from him in terms of the plays they’ll run, but it’s clear he’s accurate, mobile and has a strong arm. Just because he parties doesn’t mean he isn’t good.

  8. My question for the author of this post is how does one go about developing an ability to keep getting up and being productive after taking big hits? Are their drills one needs to run through during the offseason? Is it an ability that one can develop & hone in the limited practice time during an NFL season? Is this something that the head coach designates to one of the position coaches to work with everyone on or is this more for the training staff? Is this something just QBs, RBs, TEs, and WRs work on or does everyone, even offensive linemen? Do kickers and punters participate as well?

  9. He looks great at carrying the ball with reckless abandon, Willie Beamen style. If that was the starting front 7 for Detroit, he would have been carried off the field on a stretcher.

  10. People keep saying that Manziel has been playing with the second string offensive line as it is some indication of his play. Those same people fail acknowledge that he’s also playing against the second, third and fourth string Lions defense.

  11. Manziel looked good. Hoyer looked as mediocre as I remember when he was with the Cardinals and all of his other stops before the few games he won with Cleveland last year. However, Manziel’s style lends itself to injuries much like Michael Vick in his prime, so that’s a problem that will have to be addressed at some point when he does take over with this team.

  12. People keep saying that Manziel has been playing with the second string offensive line as it is some indication of his play. Those same people fail to acknowledge that he’s also playing against the second, third and fourth string Lions defense.

  13. Hoyer and Manziel both played really well.
    Don’t know how this will end up but for the 1st time since, well, ever, the Browns look like they will have truly competent play from the QB position. After watching what JF did behind that horrible 2nd/3rd string line, I’d love to see him behind that top notch 1st string O-line they have. JF blew holes in all the theories of his haters tonight, went thru his reads/progressions and made some really nice throws! Just like he did at Texas A&M, GO FIGURE? Lol Hoyer looked extremely polished and poised tonight too. They have a “GOOD” problem brewing in Cleveland!!!

    -A GIANTS FAN

  14. He’ll be injured, and he’ll be injured very soon. Everyone is faster and hits harder at this level. It’s just a matter of time because that style, while flashy, doesn’t last very long in the NFL.

    Why don’t people understand this yet?

  15. Considering this is his first NFL game he is doing well…..just a matter of time before he is the starter

  16. Yes Waffle, and he was also protected by the leaky Browns’ no. 2 line. With better protection (which he would have if he played with the 1s), I would expect him to have had an even better game.

  17. C’mon man! Really? His ability to succeed will not be based on his ability to scramble. Tyrol Taylor can do that! You must know his success will be dependent on his ability to pass the ball. From your report above – I did not see the game – doesn’t look like he can do that yet at a high level.

  18. You are literally making a mountain out of a molehill here. He took a big hit (after a throw) and the trainers wanted to make sure he was OK. He was and went back on the next possession and played better.

    He wasn’t hurt from running or scrambling or floating on a swan or anything.

  19. Thought that hit on J.F. was late. I’ve seen flags for less than that and being a preseason game should have drawn a flag.

    Manziel looked great when he took off running. I don’t see how they keep him on the sideline this season.

  20. Wow. Do I live in an alternate universe?

    He makes a completion and you’re all popping wood.

    He looked ordinary and vulnerable.

    He’ll be Johnny IR.

  21. Nawlinssaints:

    He was 7-11 with the second string offense. Not too shabby. Arm looked strong and was accurate and he made some nice running plays.

    Not quite sure what game you are watching

  22. Couple good things, couple bad things. Looked like any other new QB. No where near as good as the Browns play by play guys indicated. Did think he had trouble with reads on a few plays, stares down receivers as well.

  23. Kimbo you obviously do not understand the game of football. It is ok. I forgive you. This is why I come in here. To make people like you understand what you are watching. And you know I’m always right. This guy has no clue how to do anything but read option. Not a good sign.

  24. Hoyer and Manziel both played really well.
    Don’t know how this will end up but for the 1st time since, well, ever, the Browns look like they will have truly competent play from the QB position. After watching what JF did behind that horrible 2nd/3rd string line, I’d love to see him behind that top notch 1st string O-line they have. JF blew holes in all the theories of his haters tonight, went thru his reads/progressions and made some really nice throws! Just like he did at Texas A&M, GO FIGURE? Lol Hoyer looked extremely polished and poised tonight too. They have a “GOOD” problem brewing in Cleveland!!!

    -A GIANTS FAN

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    I agree on JF.

    -A SAINTS FAN

  25. He WILL be broken by his sixth NFL game.
    This guy will not have a long career. Either from partying or ad-libbing due to lack of familiarity with his NFL playbook.
    Not exactly a bust, but a guy who may have gone the distance with a little discipline.
    He won’t go the distance. 5 year career.
    Maybe.

  26. They are not watching the game. They want JF to start so bad, that the are seeing with JF glasses on!! Hoyer was much effective! Stop drinking the Kool Aid!

  27. Kimbo you obviously do not understand the game of football. It is ok. I forgive you. This is why I come in here. To make people like you understand what you are watching. And you know I’m always right. This guy has no clue how to do anything but read option. Not a good sign.
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    Good try! I do know the game of football and don’t need anyone with a moniker of “youknowI’mright” telling me anything.

    But thanks for the input!

  28. You know HE MUST be doing something right to bring out all the haters!!

    Keep going JF – you’re gonna be just fine.

    Not a Browns fan, but a huge JF fan.

  29. The browns are a disaster looking for a place to happen. Johnny was ineffective at best. No team, just like the last umpteen years.

  30. Looking good against a team’s 2nd and 3rd string defense that did not game plan for him is not exactly…

  31. Johnny looked like a capable QB tonight. No more. No less. Neither the fanatics nor the haters have any reason to get excited. He played with 2nd/3rd stringers against 2nd/3rd stringers. Made some decent plays, made some questionable plays. Hoyer looked fine, too. (TD pass hit Gordon right in the hands.) From what I saw, neither QB did anything to significantly help or hurt heir case for the starting job.

  32. Kyle Shanahan will use him like he did RGIII when he won the ROY Award. Not sure if that means he’ll start, but he has a coach who has worked with someone with his skill set before.

  33. ripwarrior says:
    Aug 9, 2014 9:57 PM
    If mr football turns out to be a stud jerrah jones will fire everyone that talked him out of drafting him.

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    What if that was his son?

    Or better yet, what if it was himself?

  34. manziel looked horrible. not going to be on any team next year. kellen moore looked like a all pro compared to his garbage. terrible. lol man is that funny.

  35. Manziel bypassing a pass to the fullback for an easy 10 yards and a first down and barely taking it himself tells you all you need to know about the guy. Selfish

  36. Kimbo your football knowledge is suspect. First go watch some film, and then as the great billy batts once said,” now go get your shine box”.

  37. I will not be rude to Johnny Manziel.

    I thought he had an OK first showing. I didn’t think he looked anywhere near Bortles, but it was alright.

    I would say I think Pettine is crazy. The Lions had nearly none of their starters in the game aside from a few secondary guys after one drive each. The Browns risked a lot keeping the starters, for the most part, in the game so long. At one point, the Lions had guys in the game that won’t even make the practice roster, with Orlovsky (who sucks bad) throwing to him, and the Browns still had the starting D-line and LB’s playing.

    Also, people need to keep a level head. He had a couple exciting runs and threw a couple nice passes, but he showed absolutely no ability, at least yet, to go through any progression against the 2nd and 3rd stringers. I like the kid, so hopefully he can learn to read a defense and go through his progressions, but at this point, excitement or not, Hoyer looked in more control than him IMO. Here’s hoping the kid has enough of a head on his shoulders to learn not to run when the first guy is covered or his career is going to be very short and painful.

  38. Manziel won’t last long. Detroits starting defense is the equivalent of a normal teams 3rd string defense. So he’s actually playing against a 9th string defense. Hoyer is better. He actually won a few games last season. Real regular season games.

  39. Running quarterbacks have a lower chance of:
    -winning a superbowl,
    -surviving a season,
    -playing well from the pocket,
    -playing at a high level into the twilight of their career.

  40. I’m a Browns fan, born and raised just outside of Cleveland. I’m a “homer” and will root for almost anyone from Cleveland or Ohio. I was really rooting for Hoyer but, if that’s the 1st team offense, we’re in for another long year. I know he’s been out for a year but, he had no connection with his O-line or receivers.

    I think Manziel was pretty ordinary. He had one good pass, and a couple of acceptable ones. I don’t care if that O-line is only second string, they flat out looked sad and unprepared.

    At times Thigpen looked okay, especially on the handoffs, and he has a decent arm but, he tends to tip his hands by staring down his receivers. With his experience, I was hoping for better.

    I think the best QB out there was the Lion’s Kellen Moore, and wished we could have seen a little of Browns’ Connor Shaw. Browns’ WR Johnson looked good and RB West has some real promise. Play calling was lame and predictable.

    Browns’ CB McFadden has got to learn the new rules about defensive holding. Browns’ Special Teams simply stunk up the night.

  41. Geez people, it is a pre-season game…vanilla defensive looks…your scrub is better than their scrub, and on and on and on. These are scrimmages like back in sandlot and high school games. You never show anything you plan on using during the season, just see how the fundamentals are. Give me a break already from these fantasy football, and I say fantasy as in probably never played the game, but fantasized about playing the game.

  42. People fear what the don’t understand & hate what they can’t conquer! He makes plays when there are not any plays to make. Browns have a strong team surrounding him & all the haters are scared because they saw he’s accurate, mobile & has a strong arm, uh oh!

  43. 4 field goals. NO offense against the Lion scrubs. Just a joke of a franchise. Same old same old for the Browns. They’ll be lucky to win 4 games this year regardless of QB.

  44. So far, I would start Hoyer and let JF learn more of the NFL and the offense. If Hoyer bombs after the first few games that count, then throw JF into the fire. Hoyer looked pretty good anf JF wasn’t too bad for his first pre-season pro game.

  45. 63 yards passing in over a half of play against second and third string defense isn’t really all that exciting to me. That was a boring game.

  46. I like JF, he’s fun to watch. That said, I’m afraid he will not last. His style will cause him to get beat up. Getting beat up tends to slow you a bit. That’s when some big backer he thought he could outrun will break him in half. Vick doesn’t finish seasons, RG3 has trouble finishing seasons and i see the same future for JF.

  47. Manziel looked “okay” but nowhere near as good as Garoppolo did Thursday. Once again, Belichek and crew drafted the real talent that everyone else missed.

    Who do you think will develop better? JF learning from Hoyer, or JG learning from Brady? As far as who will stay healthier, that isn’t even close.

  48. I have been quite skeptical of Johhny Manziel, but damn that was fun to watch. I’m not even a Browns fan but you bet I’ll be looking forward to watch them play again.

  49. The only thing he’s closed to is retirement that’s what I’ve been saying all along. He looks like a young Favre,”says” Brett!!!! Cheese heads can pick him up and claim him to be the next Favre.

  50. Hoyer looked like a backup QB. He’s just a guy. If you want to be kept in games he is your guy. Henne 2.0.

    Manziel had receivers drop two balls and a bad call gave him another incompletion. Otherwise he’s looking at 10-11 And to the yahoos saying he didn’t put points on the board, it wasn’t him who fumbled the ball away while driving into the Lions end of the field.

    This hyperbole surrounding Hoyer has to stop. Of course Johnny should beat him out if it was about your best chance to win or ability. But we are talking about the Browns…and we know the coach and GM didn’t want Johnny..so they will try their hardest to keep him out for as long as they can. But a strong start next week might force their hand.

  51. We can only hope that someone knocks him out cold on a clean hit and that he’s carted off the field. He’s an arrogant, athletic equivalent of Justin Bieber.

  52. Tons of talent. The only question I would have is can he stay healthy playing with the same reckless/exciting style he did in college?

  53. He plays decent against a bunch of back ups and Browns fans are already beating their chests talking about all the “haters” they have. Let’s take it easy. I personally don’t like Manziel. The moment I saw him put those bricks of money up to his head and act like such smug jerk, that really turned me off as far as being a fan of him. If RGIII did that . . . I mean RGIII has literally done nothing, he focuses on the game, stays out of trouble and yet if you read this website you would think he’s one of the biggest scumbags in the league. Kind of strange.

  54. The Browns and Manziel have more people pulling for them than ever. Hopefully he can bring them to respectability.

  55. I watched it, and I’m not sold on Manziel, the few times he stayed in the pocket he made bad throws and looked a little skittish.

    When he rolled out, he completed a few nice completions but also left himself vulnerable to “kill shots.”

    Also, Manziel did this against Detroits 2nd/3rd stringers, isn’t that the defense that everyone says sucks? Let’s see how he does against Dick’s zone blitz defense week 1.

    Kellen Moore though= Future Hall of Famer ( joking, big Moore fan since college)

  56. Wow!
    If Manziel would have been drafted by another team, the above Manziel “fans” would be criticizing how reckless he played. Wait til the real hitting begins when it counts. I understand the hopefulness but as a real watcher of football, especially QB, this dingy guy (official after hanging out with Bieber) isnt NFL type. He will wash out. End up a Raider, and party his money away on Peruvian flake. Its a given.
    Ok, that was que for whining and thumbs down by supposed Brown fans. Most are jumping on a bandwagon that will never roll. 🙂

  57. As an RG3 fan, my advice to him is learn to play in the pocket. If not he is going to get hurt real bad at some point.

  58. Favre 2.0. He IS reckless,rebellious, etc… Give him two years, tops, and he will OWN the league. From a Niner fan. Lord knows, we watched Favre get better by the minute with the same rebellious play style. Kids going to kill it.

  59. Three QBs tonight and they all looked terrible. Meanwhile Weeden is looking great for the Cowboys… Just sayin’

  60. If dude plays like this he won’t make it to the regular season with out getting hurt. Preseason ain’t full speed for starting D’s. He gona get killed going head first like that. My impression after watching that game is he’s bound to learn the hard way.

  61. Hoyer looked awful and Manziel was shaky. I’d start Hoyer one more time and give him 2 series then let Manziel go the rest of the game next week. If Hoyer doesn’t win the job, Manziel starts week 3.

  62. If your a Manziel fan you saw enough to make you feel good and if your a naysayer (like me) you can make an argument that way. Somewhere in November we will have a much better idea.

  63. The kid made a couple of bad reads, like not throwing to his fullback. However, after a week of film study he will make corrections.

    Coming from a completely neutral viewpoint, he was the best QB on the field last night. He made some nice throws from the pocket. Looked comfortable under center. And made plays with his legs when he needed to. I am interested to see what he does with the starters and versus the starters next weekend.

    Like it or not, this is the future of the game. Spread, Read Option, Athletic QBs, with players like Brandon Cooks on the field.

  64. Unless he learns what a pocket is and to go through his progressions and use his legs to avoid and run as a last resort he will end up going the way of the read option.

  65. Its practice folks. PRACTICE! Preseason don’t mean a thing. The Steelers are waiting on you Johnny.

  66. Must have watched a different game than I did – I thought Johnny looked ‘ok’, nothing more. I don’t see him read through his progressions, he bounced around in the pocket just long enough to spot a hole for him to run. His first instinct is to scramble, he has no poise in the pocket, and as vietnambob2473 noted, he is selfish. Yes, he’s exciting to watch, and I really don’t care who plays as long as we win…but all of this hype is ridiculous for someone that did a whole lot of nothing, WITH the first string BTW…he wasn’t playing with the second string the entire time.

  67. A very impressive start. He has a fast ball like Brett Farve. I watched him closely he went through his progressions and different options with the little bit of time that he had to throw. I can’t wait to see this guy with there starting o-line and all the number ones. When he did run he ran smart. I am a huge fan of his or course I was a big Flutie fan. This guy is going to be a great NFL QB. I see nothing but good things for the Browns.
    They just became my 2nd favorite team behind the Bills. I will be watching him every week on NFL Sunday Ticket for sure. But I tell you what the best thing he did yesterday was his post game interview if you get a chance listen to it
    I think even the hard line critic’s of Johnny football
    Would be impressed. I really like this guy. Yes I would have drafted him If I was the Bills GM. He will be NFL Rookie of the year in my opinion.

    You can find his post game interview at the browns web site

  68. Cleveland fans will get excited over anything at this point in their years of playing so poorly.

  69. I had never seen JF play before this game. I’m a Lion’s fan and was really looking forward to watching him live.

    What a dissappointment…

    When he walked onto the field, he looked like a junior high kid standing next to grown men. He is short. He is thin. Of course he can change direction faster than the big boys – that is expected.

    But he obviously could not read NFL defenses. He never appeared to get to his second progression before he pulled the ball down and started to run. To me, that means he played scared.

    The most important point I wanted to make:

    The ESPN telecast was HEAVILY slanted to Cleveland, which propped up JF well beyond any other rookie. They were actually cheering him on and giving very slanted coverage. I also taped the game from the Lion’s station and watched that video (just the JF plays) immediately after the game. The Lion’s announcers were not impressed at all. You would think you were watching a different game and a different Cleveland QB.

    I understand why people may have a favorable impression when watching Cleveland’s announcers, but I would be willing to bet they will hear a different tune when the unbiased announcers call a real NFL game this season.

    JB did not appear to be even an average NFL QB, based on this game.

    Sorry Cleveland, you were sold a bill of goods…

  70. Watching him last night, against 2nd and 3rd stringers, I can’t wait for him to start against the 1st team. He will get himself killed like RG3, if he continues that way of playing. He got a couple of good hits on him last night.

  71. Johnny looked real good for his first NFL appearance. He will make great improvement over next 3 weeks ,and will be more than ready to put the wood to the once proud steelers in week one. He will run and throw circles around the decrepid steelers D, beating them of course. Then Manziel Mania will roll all season long as he wins rookie of the year and leads the browns to the playoffs! Observe

  72. Manziel= A midget Tim Couch

    Johnny Manziel will be the starting QB for the BC Lions in 2016.

    San Francisco 49ers World Champs 2015

    Colin Kaepernick will surpass Joe Montana as the greatest QB of all time.

  73. Browns fans, you need to study RG3. He looked great running around in that pistol offense BUT just like RG3, Shannahan is going to get Manziel hurt. That kind of play just can’t be sustained.

    Plus, Hoyer looked damn good running a pro style offense.

  74. Manziel wouldn’t have gotten up if it had been the first team defense that he played against. Only football this guy will be playing is from a wheelchair.

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