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Pettine stops short of ruling out a Hoyer trade

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The timing of the decision to sign veteran quarterback and trusted Kyle Shanahan lieutenant Rex Grossman invited speculation regarding whether the Browns would consider trading Brian Hoyer, if Johnny Manziel becomes the Week One starter.

Coach Mike Pettine has addressed the situation several times since Grossman arrived.  On Tuesday, Pettine was asked whether Grossman’s arrival makes Hoyer expendable.

“No, absolutely not,” Pettine said.

In a Wednesday appearance on ESPN Radio’s Mike & Mike in the Morning, Pettine elaborated on the decision to sign Grossman.

We were looking to upgrade that third spot,” Pettine said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.  “We think the world of Brian and he’s been really solid for us.  He’s done nothing to have that job taken away and we’re really pleased with where he is.  A lot of people don’t realize when he played in Detroit, it was his first live action since coming off a serious knee injury and we thought he handled himself very well.”

Asked again about the topic at a Wednesday press conference, Pettine downplayed the possibility but didn’t completely and unequivocally rule it out.

“We’re not going to comment on every story that’s out there,” Pettine said in response to the question of whether there’s absolutely nothing to a report that the team would like to trade Hoyer.  “We made a move to strengthen our quarterback room, and you just get these stories coming out.  I don’t want to be in the habit of commenting on all of them.”

Still, if the Browns are prepared to go with Manziel and if they believe that Grossman provides a competent backup option in the event Manziel gets injured, why not trade a guy who otherwise will be a free agent in March?  Two large ifs reside in that sentence, but if those ifs are satisfied, Hoyer is indeed expendable.

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39 Responses to “Pettine stops short of ruling out a Hoyer trade”
  1. joeflaccoallday says: Aug 13, 2014 8:07 PM

    Makes too much sense to trade Hoyer especially if Manziel win the starting job. Browns not getting Andre but the Texans have a bevy of recievers that Browns desperately need and they could do a swap for picks too.

  2. blueballzny says: Aug 13, 2014 8:16 PM

    Trade Hoyer for what, a 7th round pick? What if Manziel starts week 1 and gets injured? You really wanna roll with Rex Gross -man? Hoyer has shown that he can win games and had a good thing going with Cameron when he was on the field.

  3. ocgunslinger says: Aug 13, 2014 8:20 PM

    It takes two quality QB’s to win in the NFL. The jury is out on Manziel but even if he is the man…..Not that sold on Rex Grossman if something happens to the mobile Manziel. Why waste another year if something happens to Manziel. If it is Hoyer who is injured then Manziel better be the man but for 2014 I would keep Hoyer.

  4. Hard On For Harden says: Aug 13, 2014 8:25 PM

    The Texans don’t need Hoyer, they are a million times better off not sacrificing any young talent/picks and sucking again this year.

  5. clarencewhorley says: Aug 13, 2014 8:32 PM

    I like Hoyer but no one will trade for him. He was on the street for a long time till the Browns signed him. Bill O’Brien likes him but not worth it for more than a 6th or 7th and that’s not worth losing a good backup for.

    Especially when he could get Ryan Mallet or Matt Cassell for not that much more

  6. thestrategyexpert says: Aug 13, 2014 8:41 PM

    We’re not going to comment on every story
    We will comment on all stories when it’s convenient and we have a good answer
    When the risk of getting egg on the face is low, we will chat your ear off

  7. bucsorbust says: Aug 13, 2014 8:48 PM

    This is dumb. Pettine isn’t going to entertain trade talk because he’s not the GM. This isn’t hard. Cleveland will carry Grossman to bring JFF and Hoyer along, and toss him when they’re done with that. But the Browns will find a way to mess this up too.

  8. Eli Pacheco says: Aug 13, 2014 8:53 PM

    Hey what about Jake Delhomme?

  9. pittsburghdamned says: Aug 13, 2014 9:15 PM

    Manziel is the one who’d be most happy to escape. The embarrassment of playing for the Browns was obvious from Day 1.

  10. bubbybrisket says: Aug 13, 2014 9:23 PM

    So you’re telling me there’s a chance!!!!

  11. kwjsb says: Aug 13, 2014 9:25 PM

    Does it matter?

    Hoyer had a drive ending beautiful deep out dropped at the 9 by Austin, and had anther drive ending pass dropped inside the 5 by Gray

    As long as the Browns lead the league in drops no QB will excel.

  12. doctorrustbelt says: Aug 13, 2014 9:32 PM

    Good luck with that trade.

    The only people fooled are the people who were fooled when Akili Quinn was drafted.

  13. bullcharger says: Aug 13, 2014 9:37 PM

    They shouldn’t trade Hoyer. He is a great back up QB. He had his shot last year and did OK, but I don’t think he’s better then Manziel. If Manziel goes down after making some stupid runs at least they have a guy who has proven he can win. Grossman is a loser. They won’t get anything for Hoyer anyway.

  14. hrdcorbengalsfan says: Aug 13, 2014 9:45 PM

    Say it isn’t so….another Browns QB controversy?

  15. trojan33sc says: Aug 13, 2014 9:46 PM

    What about Bobby Hebert ? Doesn’t he have a few good years left??? LOL

  16. says: Aug 13, 2014 9:54 PM

    they are not trading him. They know they need fall-back in case Manziel gets hurt or falters terribly…

  17. kando53 says: Aug 13, 2014 9:56 PM

    Maybe they just got wise and realized they needed a better back-up for Hoyer. 🙂

    Can’t wait till this all implodes on them. Johnny Tebow II.

  18. urbusted2 says: Aug 13, 2014 10:00 PM

    I think Grossman is there because he has 5 0r 6 years with the OC’s offense. I see him helping the other two learn the system. Whether they keep him is another story. I don’t see him moving up in the depth chart unless there’s an injury.

  19. canetic says: Aug 13, 2014 10:06 PM

    Surely Steve Deberg or Jon Kitna are available.

  20. ragnarthemagnificent says: Aug 13, 2014 10:11 PM

    Oh Frowns, you’ll never learn

  21. terrybradshawisdead says: Aug 13, 2014 10:22 PM

    Rex Grossman?

    So the question is, who are the Browns going to get to fill that 3rd QB spot because Grossman would occupy QB #4

  22. cosmicconvoy says: Aug 13, 2014 10:25 PM

    Rex Grossman? LOL!

    Why not J.P. Loserman too?

  23. realitycheckbaby says: Aug 13, 2014 10:30 PM

    Pettine already bugs me.

    It’s like he thinks he’s part of WWF.

    You’re trying waaayyy too hard to look tough.

  24. coachbeck says: Aug 13, 2014 10:36 PM

    Andre for hoyer. Texans get to move on and O’Brien is moving forward and Andre can’t be in the plans. Maybe a conditional pick thrown in there

  25. Hard On For Harden says: Aug 13, 2014 10:38 PM

    Lol at all the thumbs down. Listen Cleveland, it’s great you have a big spotlight on you because of LeBron and Manziel, but don’t let it go to your heads. Brian Hoyer’s a 28 year old with a couple starts under his belt (sorta like that Weeden guy you mocked for a couple of years). The Texans would be beyond stupid to give you anything of value for the smallest of stopgap solutions to a much bigger problem.

  26. pipkinite says: Aug 13, 2014 11:23 PM

    Win three games before injury and all of a sudden you’re tradeable!?

  27. getyourownname says: Aug 13, 2014 11:29 PM

    Why would any team trade and give up something, if they know they can wait and sign him when the Browns cut him?

  28. NoobTubeTV says: Aug 13, 2014 11:33 PM

    It isn’t like Hoyer is Cousins. Maybe they are the same… highly overrated.

  29. themeccalambeaufield says: Aug 13, 2014 11:34 PM

    I know controversy gets views but really that’s what you get from that Q&A ? While Manziel had a decent game the Browns are in no position to consider trading Hoyer after 1 preseason game specially when Manziel didn’t even play with first team.

  30. borisbulldog says: Aug 13, 2014 11:42 PM

    Jerry Jones would give up a 2nd rounder for Hoyer to back up ole 8-8!

  31. 4512dawg4512 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:43 PM

    Manziel most likely, errr WILL get hurt, Hoyer is a career backup with a not so great arm and a bad knee. Browns fans, like it it not we’re gonna be seeing some Rex this season. That’s just the reality of it

  32. 4512dawg4512 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:45 PM

    ^—- ohh, and a WHOLE LOT of Billy Cundiff

  33. fordmandalay says: Aug 13, 2014 11:49 PM

    Exactly why does anyone consider Hoyer a hot prospect for a trade? He’s played four games for four teams in his four year career. He’s got Kevin Kolb stink all over him.

  34. raiderufan says: Aug 14, 2014 6:59 AM

    So the answer to the same questions these guys asked the day before are the same the day after when nothing of note….even that days practice…has taken place?

    Well, I’m certainly stunned.

  35. tincansailor981 says: Aug 14, 2014 7:14 AM

    Tim Tebow Part Deux hasn’t taken a snap in a regular season game and already there’s talk of him being the starter AND trading the guy he replaced? Give me a break. Let him prove himself first.

  36. ravenswhat says: Aug 14, 2014 7:14 AM

    In Kyle’s defense, long distance relationships are tough.

  37. 76ersdoubletank says: Aug 14, 2014 8:02 AM

    This whole thing in Cleveland is going to come back to bite them.

    I watched the local coverage of the pre-season game, and it really should have just been called the “Johnny Manziel Power Hour” or soemthing like that. Hoyer and Manziel both played about average in that first game, and yet Hoyer is already out of the discussion. The best was when the analyst was talking about how good Manziel did on an option play that went for no yards.

    I hope Johnny succeeds in the NFL, but I hope Hoyer does to. He certainly looks more comfortable in the pocket, but he’s been behind the 8 ball unfairly from the minute Manziel’s name was called.

    The NFL is a strange league sometimes.

  38. wiseone50 says: Aug 14, 2014 1:30 PM

    It would be stupid for them to trade Hoyer. You need all of the talent you can get at this position. He hasn’t proved all that much yet but… Last year he made a totally aneimic offense come alive after two other QB’s couldn’t. It was so obvious that he knew how to play the position. If you watched all of the games you’d know. That’s why we really like him here in Cleveland. NOT because he’s a hometown boy and all of that crap.

  39. danielweires says: Aug 14, 2014 2:21 PM

    Now hold on. I don’t understand why everyone is all willy nilly to trade off Hoyer already. Usually when someone goes 3-0 as a starter for a team, they start for awhile longer. Hoyer shows promise and isn’t getting the acknowledgment he deserves for the way he has handled all of this. I say go with Hoyer and let the early Bye Week be the judge. If the Browns are sub .500 at that point, switch to Manziel. If you go with Manziel right away and you start 1-4 or whatever, I wouldn’t have much faith in his long-term ability. You switch to him and he wins a few games at the end of the year, the Browns fans will have something to look forward to in the future.

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