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Sanders stands by saying Peyton is a better leader than Ben

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Broncos receiver Emmanuel Sanders ruffled some feathers in Pittsburgh when he said last month that he thinks his new quarterback, Peyton Manning, is a better leader than his old quarterback, Ben Roethlisberger. Ordinarily, when a player’s comments get him in hot water, he quickly backtracks and claims he was misquoted or misunderstood or misconstrued or taken out of context, or he offers a mealy-mouthed apology, if anyone was offended.

So it’s refreshing to hear Sanders stand by what he said.

“I have not one regret. If I said it then I meant it,” Sanders said on NFL Network.

Sanders made clear that he isn’t trying to insult Roethlisberger, but he was asked a question about Manning’s leadership and answered it honestly: In the opinion of Sanders, Manning is a better leader than Roethlisberger, and for that matter a better leader than any other teammate Sanders has ever had.

“It wasn’t meant as disrespect for anyone. I’ve got so much love for everybody over there in Pittsburgh, and they know it — they know me. I didn’t mean any harm,” Sanders said. “It’s just how Peyton is treating everybody out here, I’ve never seen somebody lead the way that he leads. That’s no diss to Ben. That’s just saying that, of every football team that I’ve played on, he’s the best leader I’ve seen. And everyone in the world knows that — when it comes to Peyton Manning, they know that he’s going to study, he’s going to do the right thing, he’s going to be where he’s supposed to be. That was just all meant for Peyton.”

Sanders was criticized by former teammate Antonio Brown, but Sanders said there’s no animosity between himself and his old teammates, even though he hasn’t spoken to them recently.

“I haven’t talked to those guys. A.B. called a couple days ago but I’ve been so busy,” he said. “But A.B. and all those guys, they know that we’re brothers, they know that it’s all good. They know me, they know there are no hard feelings and I have no hard feelings toward them. I play for the Denver Broncos but I’ve still got so much love for Steeler Nation and the Pittsburgh Steelers.”

And with that, Sanders accomplished something rare: He offered a clearheaded, reasonable explanation of his comments, without falling back on the old excuse of claiming he hadn’t said what he said, or claiming he hadn’t meant what he meant.

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124 Responses to “Sanders stands by saying Peyton is a better leader than Ben”
  1. bucrightoff says: Aug 13, 2014 10:02 AM

    Ben’s a better leader….to the bathroom.

  2. skoobyfl says: Aug 13, 2014 10:04 AM

    Looking at recent records, one would tend to agree with him.

  3. dmretrogames says: Aug 13, 2014 10:05 AM

    Riveting story. Keep them coming.

  4. watdoiknow says: Aug 13, 2014 10:05 AM

    And no we come to the part our the comments where all Steeler fans write how glad they are they he’s no longer with the team.. how he “was never very good anyhow”.

  5. chargersdiehard says: Aug 13, 2014 10:05 AM

    Manning’s a better leader, pizza maker, and rapper. He isn’t better at getting fitted for rings.

  6. keepongronking says: Aug 13, 2014 10:06 AM

    I only heard of emmanuel sanders when he signed for denver. Before that he was another nobody.

  7. alaskazz says: Aug 13, 2014 10:06 AM

    Shocker

  8. sbchampsagain says: Aug 13, 2014 10:06 AM

    This must be the the cover story on “Duh!” Magazine.

  9. calhounlambeau says: Aug 13, 2014 10:07 AM

    Why did any of this need to be said? We already knew Tom Brady was a superior leader with a better work ethic. Why blurt it out? You don’t have to answer the medias questions.

  10. nickinneohio says: Aug 13, 2014 10:08 AM

    Watched Broncos first preseason game.
    Sanders: 0 catches, 0 targets, irrelevant.

  11. gayforbrady says: Aug 13, 2014 10:08 AM

    Way to go out on a Limb.

    I am sure Emmanuel Sanders is against Nuclear War too.

  12. thepftpoet says: Aug 13, 2014 10:12 AM

    The best three QB’s in the NFL are Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

    Followed by Teddy Bridgewater and Matt Cassell.

    #Skol

  13. baddegg says: Aug 13, 2014 10:12 AM

    Leader in the regular season or playoffs?

  14. Oh, Steeler Nation! We paved the way for the game at its height, but Goodell and the Goons© have destroyed what we've built. They're terrified of our departure. God's will cannot be stopped. SFL 2015 (after SB #7): restoring our precious game. says: Aug 13, 2014 10:13 AM

    Leaders win rings. Peyton will never be what Ben is. Though, that’s not a knock on Peyton because no one will match Ben. Ben is arguably the best QB of all-time and definitely the most under-appreciated.

  15. FoozieGrooler says: Aug 13, 2014 10:15 AM

    Well yeah, sure.
    After all, Peyton is the head coach and the offensive coordinator…

  16. All-American Voltron says: Aug 13, 2014 10:15 AM

    So we’re praising the guy who says his CURRENT qb is better than his old one??? Isn’t that standard practice for players to say that?

    The only thing newsworthy would be if he said Ben was a better leader …

  17. dickshotdogs says: Aug 13, 2014 10:16 AM

    Who in the world could possibly be surprised by this? It’s the truth, and not even close. I concur, Emmanuel.

    Patriots fan

  18. 700levelvet says: Aug 13, 2014 10:17 AM

    Nobody and I mean nobody can order loaded Nachos better than Ben…

  19. morty999 says: Aug 13, 2014 10:17 AM

    Ben is much better at sexually assaultng women too, so at least he has that.

  20. kamthechancellor says: Aug 13, 2014 10:18 AM

    Megahead is a gimmick quarterback. It works against mid-tier and low talent/poorly coached teams. Versus playoff caliber teams he’s not so special. I’d take Big Ben in the playoffs every time.

  21. buddysguys says: Aug 13, 2014 10:18 AM

    really Peyton is a better leader than a man who was accused of rape 2 different times? Find that hard to believe Emanuel……

  22. juanweiner says: Aug 13, 2014 10:19 AM

    Brown nosing won’t get you more catches.

  23. Pitt_Fan87 says: Aug 13, 2014 10:19 AM

    I’m looking forward to Peyton chewing out Emmanuel following one of his patented drops on a critical play. Anyone with a lick of sense knows Peyton is a better player and leader than Big Ben. Big Ben has also been (give or take) a top 5 QB for the last decade. Sanders is a slightly above average player on the field, and a headache in the locker room.

  24. uwsptke says: Aug 13, 2014 10:20 AM

    Isn’t it pretty well-known by now that Roethlisberger is disliked very much within the Steelers lockerroom?

  25. bullcharger says: Aug 13, 2014 10:22 AM

    Just a calculated attention grab. These guys are media trained. They know what will create a story and what won’t. If Sanders didn’t say it there would be no articles about him anywhere, and by standing by his comments weeks later he is back in the news.

    Smart moves, now if he delivers on the field he might get some more endorsements etc.

    I think it would have been classier to just say Peyton was a good leader and leave Ben out of it, but that wouldn’t have prompted any media attention.

  26. dethsupport says: Aug 13, 2014 10:23 AM

    I didn’t even know Sanders was still playing professionally.

  27. thereep says: Aug 13, 2014 10:23 AM

    I’ll take things that don’t shock me for $400, Alex.

  28. patriotsarespygaters says: Aug 13, 2014 10:26 AM

    OFCOURSE HE DOES… HE WANTS THE BALL WE WILL SEE WHEN THE WEATHER GETS REALLY COLD…THE COWBOYS AND THE JETS ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL

  29. troy43mvp says: Aug 13, 2014 10:35 AM

    Some have argued that Peyton was a better leader than Moses.

  30. clu1perceiver says: Aug 13, 2014 10:38 AM

    Given that the statement was only Sanders’s opinion, he is entitled to stand by it. The fact that what he said was , IMO, very accurate, puts those who think otherwise in the position of arguing against the truth.

  31. darthvoter says: Aug 13, 2014 10:38 AM

    This is the only way Sanders is going to make the news. Lord knows he won’t do it with his stats. Average WR at best.

  32. maverick2560 says: Aug 13, 2014 10:39 AM

    It is just true. Ben has actually gotten a little better. In his earlier
    years you could see he just wasn’t prepared to the level
    of other quarterbacks . With experience and especially a little
    more maturity Ben has improved. However based upon
    First hand observation he was an immature kid. He is slowly
    getting there. Many of us take a little longer . You just hope Ben
    realizes how fast it goes. I’m betting that with 2 Super Bowl wins under his belt he may never get to the level of preperation the great players get to. He is just not that kind of guy .

  33. steelcurtainn says: Aug 13, 2014 10:48 AM

    Antonio Brown has better hands and is a better leader then Sanders is.

  34. schmitty2 says: Aug 13, 2014 10:51 AM

    “Better ingrediants, better pizza, Papa Johns!”

  35. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Aug 13, 2014 10:53 AM

    I am laughing at how sensitive some Steelers fans are.

    Peyton is going to be remembered as one of the all-time greats, certainly one of the greatest of his era. Ben won’t be. But the inferiority complexes are certainly entertaining.

  36. hobbeslax says: Aug 13, 2014 10:56 AM

    The sexual assault “jokes” are old.
    The man was ACCUSED-NEVER charged.
    I’m sure Roethlisberger was a real pompous, immature jerk during his early tenure in Pittsburg. His former teammates have commented on this. They have also say that he has grown and is a much better person today. Is it not possible for someone to change?

  37. theageofquarrel says: Aug 13, 2014 10:59 AM

    rabble,rabble,rabble

  38. packfanaj12 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:07 AM

    They both are great QB’s, and Sanders has to say that about his current QB or the backlash he would receive would be horrendous. As a Packers fan I have great respect for the QB position and I think they both have quality leadership skills. Both have rings to prove it.

  39. clashpoint says: Aug 13, 2014 11:10 AM

    Peyton is also a better leader than Hoyer, Flacco, Manziel, Dalton, Rivers, Luck, Tennehill, Foles, Romo, RG3, Kaepernick, Wilson, Cutler, Ryan, and several dozen other NFL quarterbacks. So?

  40. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:10 AM

    He was good, not clutch. When the game was on the line he would crumble. Didn’t he fumble a few times while running with no one around?

  41. shadowgamesshades says: Aug 13, 2014 11:11 AM

    Peyton is better at choking in Superbowls too, but that’s none of my business.

  42. atlantacynic says: Aug 13, 2014 11:14 AM

    If you want someone to lead you to a blowout victory over a mediocre team in late October while he pads his stats with 5 TD passes then Peyton Manning is your go to guy

    As far as winning in the playoffs, maybe not

    Peyton Manning is the Mr. October of the NFL – of course the most meaningful games are played in January and February

  43. propertyofthebroncos says: Aug 13, 2014 11:18 AM

    Um……DUH! Ben is awful and the Steelers are finally waking up and getting rid of him. Like there was ever a competition there in any way, shape, or form.

  44. clashpoint says: Aug 13, 2014 11:18 AM

    Every Ben related story brings out the same stupid and slanderous comments about accusations from his past. So everyone I feel obligated to post the below, all of which is easy to Google:

    -
    The first was the hotel thing: The accuser got fired for telling her co-workers she was in a relationship with Ben and she wanted to have his baby. That was against hotel policy concerning hotel guests, so yeah, they fired her. That was followed by Ben dumping her crazy self. When she vengefully tried to file charges against both Ben and the hotel, she was denied. When she tried to sue Ben, her co-workers signed depositions saying what she said about Ben that got her fired in the first place. Then Ben fought her civil suit for a long time, probably until lawyer fees outweighed everything else. No terms were ever announced. FACTS.

    The second was bar bathroom thing: The accuser never tried to file charges at all, or even file a civil suit, basically saying she didn’t want to face all the crap she’d take over it. Plus, there was no DNA evidence when she claimed she was sexually assaulted, and Ben said they never even had sex at all – which is completely supported by the DNA findings, of course. So, she wasn’t going to win anything anyways. Go look all that up, too. FACTS.

    I ain’t saying he’s perfect.
    I am saying the world’s full of gold diggers.

    Go Steelers!

  45. stillers213 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:19 AM

    Just shut it while you’re ahead Sanders. You will disappear into anonimity just like every other Steeler who has changed unis. This will probably be the most press you ever get going forward so enjoy it while it lasts.

  46. weepingjebus says: Aug 13, 2014 11:28 AM

    “Peyton also never tried to tell me a dirty limerick while using only burps.”

  47. sc5000 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:28 AM

    A dog with a note in its mouth could of won little bens first superbowl. Just sayin

  48. crownofthehelmet says: Aug 13, 2014 11:29 AM

    Hands down Manning is the better QB, I’d even argue the best in the history of the NFL.

    With that said, hands down Ben is better at leading his team to SB victories. I’d even argue there is no one I’d rather have to win me a big game then Ben over the last 10 years.

    Manning the better QB, yes. Better leader, no. Leaders get results.

  49. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 11:30 AM

    Not a fair statement to Manning more than anything because all it really turns to is how bad Peyton has choked in Super Bowls or the post season while Roethlisberger has the second best active playoff record in wins and losses, 2 Super Bowl victories and was apart of one of the biggest throws and catch in Super Bowl history.

    When it matters, give me Ben and Brown 100 times out of 100 over a Manning and Sanders connection. Brown wipes the FLOOR with this guy.

  50. Steeler's Didn't-but-Will-eventually says: Aug 13, 2014 11:35 AM

    “I only heard of emmanuel sanders when he signed for denver. Before that he was another nobody.”

    Your team made Sanders an offer just last year when he was a restricted free agent. FYI.

  51. restorativejusticeprogram says: Aug 13, 2014 11:38 AM

    Ben Rapelessburger may be the toughest, but there is no evidence he is a great leader

  52. smupreacher says: Aug 13, 2014 11:39 AM

    Ok, using the logic that Peyton is the “Mr. October” of the NFL, what makes him better than Tony Romo??? Could Peyton be considered as the modern era’s Dan Marino??? Just asking…

  53. tinytoolalldrool says: Aug 13, 2014 11:42 AM

    This is like comparing apples to oranges.
    Peyton>Fat Ben.

  54. isphet71 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:42 AM

    The truth hurts sometimes.

  55. superjay3282 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:49 AM

    PEYTON MANNING is the GREATEST QB of ALL-TIME!!!

  56. steelcurtainn says: Aug 13, 2014 11:52 AM

    Big Ben will be remembered for winning more superbowls then Peyton.

  57. magicmtndan says: Aug 13, 2014 11:56 AM

    Manny Sanders would still be in Pittsburgh if he could consistently catch the ball especially in the clutch.

    His opinion about anything is as important as ours.

    Wait until Peyton the leader is pissed at Manny for not knowing which routes to run. Manny will be wishing he was back in the Burgh having Ben throw the ball to him.

  58. leagueobservr says: Aug 13, 2014 11:56 AM

    “Sanders stands by saying Peyton is a better leader than Ben”

    Translation: “Manning gets me the ball more…”

  59. craig309 says: Aug 13, 2014 11:59 AM

    Obviously none of you know Ben he hasn’t grown up at all.when he comes to Miami where he played college ball he’s a bigger jerk now than he was then.i see him at parties and way he treats people.if your not beautiful blonde or a female with looks he treats you like crap I’m a male not a fan of his or steelers always a jerk always be a jerk he did not win Super Bowls sorry that defense and Hines ward toughest player to play recently won those.bens trash!!!! Top 5 lmao never just his defense was now Tomlinson has his draft guys funny he can’t win without cowhers guys

  60. shotdoc56 says: Aug 13, 2014 12:05 PM

    Put Manning with the rebuilding O line for the past 6 years that Ben has had Peyton probably is out of the league from injuries. Manning is a great QB, and so is Ben.

  61. colv says: Aug 13, 2014 12:06 PM

    Payton is a natural leader who ran the Colts and now the Broncos as evidenced by the Colts collapse after he got hurt. Ben is a leader too! Just not to the level as Payton. I spent 30 years in the military and we tend to grow our leaders but once in a blue moon a natural leader will pop up. Unfortunately in the military our flag officers become politicians and forget how to lead.

  62. Getoffmylawn! says: Aug 13, 2014 12:23 PM

    I will remember Payton as one of the best QB’s of all time and Ben as an attempted rapist on a disgusting team.

  63. lunchbox92 says: Aug 13, 2014 12:28 PM

    To those making “Ben Roethlisberger is great in the playoffs” comments – see Tim Tebow.

  64. orangeisthenewblue says: Aug 13, 2014 12:32 PM

    Idd rather take Ben in the playoffs- really! The same guy who lost a playoff game to tebow? He’s not the same guy. And your not the same team as you once were.

  65. bubbybrisket says: Aug 13, 2014 1:07 PM

    Oh, Steeler Nation! We paved the way for the game at its height, but Goodell and the Goons© have destroyed what we’ve built. They’re terrified of our departure. God’s will cannot be stopped. SFL 2015 (after SB #7): restoring our precious game. says:
    Aug 13, 2014 10:13 AM
    Leaders win rings. Peyton will never be what Ben is. Though, that’s not a knock on Peyton because no one will match Ben. Ben is arguably the best QB of all-time and definitely the most under-appreciated.

    ————————————-

    Big Ben is just a better version of Trent Dilfer.

  66. shakespeare22 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:13 PM

    Are the Steelers still in the NFL? They have so irrelevant for the past couple years I wasn’t’t sure if they were still around. Lean years ahead with Spamhead Ben. What do Ben, Jim Plunkett, Mark Rypien and Neil O’Donnell all have in common? They all fall under the Spamhead moniker. It’s the way their faces are trying to burst out of the front of their helmets.

  67. denver1983 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:14 PM

    It’s true and the Broncos have owned the Steelers the last few years

  68. jtm12180 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:19 PM

    2 rings > 1

  69. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:21 PM

    orangeisthenewblue, Tebow beat the Steelers in the playoffs? I didn’t know he was the only one playing. Hate all you want but you have to know the only reason the Broncos won that game was because if the defense. Tebow can’t find a NFL QB job and Ben has a few years left with a couple more playoff runs.

  70. scw1993 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:22 PM

    Megahead is no leader, he’s a dictator. A leader would actually lead his team to winning the biggest game of the year, not just personal awards for himself. He’s the best choker in the nfl, I’ll give him that. That aw shucks, country boy routine is getting very old, personal stat awards are for losers, not leaders.

  71. nervesplicer says: Aug 13, 2014 1:23 PM

    I saw an absolute slaughter in the super bowl last year, and a team that quickly fell apart to a great defense – as Peyton’s teams oftentimes do in the playoffs.

    There is no doubt that Peyton is a better leader, role model, and tactician than Ben. The playoff difference between the two is that Ben can more consistently beat great defenses.

    I’ll take Peyton over Ben any day as my QB in the regular season, and as my son-in-law. I’ll take Ben all day as my QB in the playoffs, and as my accomplice in felonious misdeeds.

  72. pksoze says: Aug 13, 2014 1:25 PM

    Ben got outplayed by Tim Tebow in the playoffs….Tebow!

  73. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:44 PM

    Tim and Ben played against the same defense? The Steeler D was injury depleted and a big chunk of Tim’s stats came in the overtime short pass with long run. Ben played a much better defense with a third string RB, second string TE, and a terrible line.

  74. scoobies05 says: Aug 13, 2014 1:45 PM

    did someone really say Ben is in the argument for best qb of all time? maybe in Pittsburgh. and that’s about it. Not even trying to knock Ben. he’s very good. but he is in no realistic conversation for best everr

  75. nervesplicer says: Aug 13, 2014 2:01 PM

    just to remind all those making the Tebow beat the Steelers argument. Didn’t Peyton lose against Mark Sanchez in the playoffs?

  76. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 2:03 PM

    Are the Steelers still in the NFL? They have so irrelevant for the past couple years I wasn’t’t sure if they were still around.

    ———-

    The simple fact that you feel the need to comment on a team like the Steelers shows their relevance. Even when they weren’t relevant as far as a team in transition when coming to being IN the playoffs, they are still a football team that was HIGHLY relevant, even after starting a football season 0-4.

    You do realize in both 2012 and 2013, even though the Steelers kind of were caught in a quick rebuilding phase, that it took them until week 15; week 17 to eliminate them from the post-season?

    One Ryan Succop missed FG would of put the team nobody wanted to see in the playoffs last year. Let that sink in. Even at their worst in recent years, the Steelers aren’t going anywhere…unfortunately for you.

  77. olddirtytruth says: Aug 13, 2014 2:04 PM

    Saying Peyton is better than Ben is like saying water is wet. Not hard to stand by that.

  78. pksoze says: Aug 13, 2014 2:09 PM

    And Tebow was so bad in practice, he still couldn’t beat out Sanchez.

  79. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 2:09 PM

    Tim and Ben played against the same defense? The Steeler D was injury depleted and a big chunk of Tim’s stats came in the overtime short pass with long run. Ben played a much better defense with a third string RB, second string TE, and a terrible line.

    ———

    Ben was also on one ankle. Literally. He was just as bruised and battered as bad as that Steelers defense was. Besides, it’s sickening to think how everybody wants to talk about Tebow during those years when it was that TOUGH Broncos defense that carried his 2-15; 2 yards and 3 interception performances. No matter who they played, the Steelers weren’t getting out of that first round. They were shot in week 15 of that 2011 season.

  80. steelerdynasty2010 says: Aug 13, 2014 2:12 PM

    @pksoze:
    really? when did Ben throw against the steelers D? qbs dont outplay one another in the same game. you’d have to compare their stats against common opponents to make your point….and i’m guessing you probably want to leave that alone…jus sayin…

  81. ashleyschafferbmw says: Aug 13, 2014 2:24 PM

    People are confusing the issue with this story, no one is questioning whether Roethlisberger is a better leader or not, we all know Peyton is. Its the fact that Sanders kind of went out of his way to sort of diss his former team that he left on relatively good terms, when he could have simply said that “manning is a great leader”

  82. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 2:27 PM

    In that Wild Card round, Ben was on one ankle and the Steelers team were without Mendenhall, Pouncey, Hampton, Keisel, Clark and the list goes on.

    Tebow only completed 10 pass’s. It’s not like he dissected Pittsburgh. The Steelers were just shot. Basically all bombs downfield and the Thomas RAC in OT. It was the perfect time for a team like the Broncos to pounce on an ailing football team going downhill.

  83. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 2:29 PM

    Roethlisberger plays exceptionally well between the 20s. His performance against the Broncos is an excellent example.
    With that 3rd-string RB, and with that 2nd-string TE, and with that terrible O-line, the Steelers outgained the Broncos 119 yards to 8 yards in the first quarter en route to two FGs and a 6-0 lead.
    In that dominant first quarter, Roethlisberger engineered drives of eight and 12 plays. But zero TDs.
    Roethlisberger finished the game with a Total QB Rating of 25, which was the lowest of the 2011′s Wild Card Weekend.
    Let’s stop with the excuses.

  84. thesteelhurtin says: Aug 13, 2014 2:36 PM

    craig309 says:
    Aug 13, 2014 11:59 AM
    Obviously none of you know Ben he hasn’t grown up at all.when he comes to Miami where he played college ball he’s a bigger jerk now than he was then.i see him at parties and way he treats people.if your not beautiful blonde or a female with looks he treats you like crap I’m a male not a fan of his or steelers always a jerk always be a jerk he did not win Super Bowls sorry that defense and Hines ward toughest player to play recently won those.bens trash!!!! Top 5 lmao never just his defense was now Tomlinson has his draft guys funny he can’t win without cowhers guys

    _________
    Obviously you didn’t study at Miami. Also Ben doesn’t party anymore and that has been well documented now. Also when did Tomlinson start coaching the Steelers?

  85. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 2:47 PM

    Roethlisberger plays exceptionally well between the 20s. His performance against the Broncos is an excellent example.
    With that 3rd-string RB, and with that 2nd-string TE, and with that terrible O-line, the Steelers outgained the Broncos 119 yards to 8 yards in the first quarter en route to two FGs and a 6-0 lead.
    In that dominant first quarter, Roethlisberger engineered drives of eight and 12 plays. But zero TDs.
    Roethlisberger finished the game with a Total QB Rating of 25, which was the lowest of the 2011’s Wild Card Weekend.
    Let’s stop with the excuses.

    —————

    If you know anything about football, you know that one argument can be used to counter the other. You say Roethlisberger was playing with 3rd string running backs, tight ends and a BEYOND AWFUL offensive line but fail to realize that being efficient inside the red-zone is a game that goes as far as your weapons, which Roethlisberger clearly didn’t have and that’s what the Steelers have been lacking over the years to succeed in the redzone. WEAPONS and you can’t blame Roethlisberger for those shortcomings.

    Besides, keep pulling out selective facts like not getting the ball in the endzone in the first quarter but completely not acknowledge the fact that Roethlisberger got his depleted team in position to win when he led his offense to score 10 points in the last 10 minutes to rally from a big halftime deficit and put his team in a position to win. Yeah, completely disregard that, right? Figures.

  86. contract says: Aug 13, 2014 2:51 PM

    Manny Sanders needs to worry about catching the ball when it hits him in the mitts … because unlike Ben, Peyton will throw him under the bus and then back over him.

  87. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 2:52 PM

    bobzilla1001, Ben can’t throw and catch to himself. Ben doesn’t control the RB either. Not saying all his throws are golden but bit all if the lack of TDs goes back to him.

  88. Slapshot says: Aug 13, 2014 2:56 PM

    Sanders is probably right on the money with his comparative assessment of both signal callers. But for his own sake, I wish him better luck in coming down with passes from Peyton than from those he dropped from Ben.

  89. steelcurtainn says: Aug 13, 2014 3:02 PM

    Big Deal Big Ben lost one playoff game to Tebow 3 years ago. The defense practically gave the game away by giving up 30 points. Every dog has its day. Tim Tebow couldnt hold Big Bens jock strap when it comes to playoff victories or wins in general. Heck, Tebow cant even stay in the league.Ben would trounce him 9 times if they played 10 games and the one would be the game he already got lucky to win. Did someone say Big Ben was a better version of Trent Dilfer………? Now thats laughable. The dill pickle hasnt come close to accomplishing what Big Ben has

    As for Sanders, once he leaves the broncos he’ll be out of the league unless he’s lucky enough to get another big tier qb like Big Ben or Peyton.

  90. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 3:05 PM

    What I’m saying is: if the offense was healthy enough to go up and down the field, that same offense should’ve been healthy enough to score a few TDs.
    Not scoring TDs has been a Roethlisberger problem his entire career.
    To be honest, I have no recollection of the offense being injury-depleted for that playoff game. I’m pretty sure that’s a myth created by all the Big Ben Apologists.
    The 2011 Steelers were nowhere near a 12-4 team. They beat 2 teams that had winning records that season. They were an enigma.

  91. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Aug 13, 2014 3:14 PM

    Ben’s playoff record last 3 years (when the Steelers defense started getting old and slow): 0-1

  92. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 3:20 PM

    thegenoatkinsdiet, the bengals playoff record for the last 3 years, 0-3. Win one then talk.

  93. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 3:32 PM

    Bob, 3-1 against playoff teams that year.

  94. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 3:42 PM

    To be honest, I have no recollection of the offense being injury-depleted for that playoff game. I’m pretty sure that’s a myth created by all the Big Ben Apologists.
    ————–

    Obviously you have no recollection for pretty much anything. When getting into a debate, don’t admit to having no recollection of stuff. It clearly shows.

  95. pongonfl says: Aug 13, 2014 3:49 PM

    Ben is a great QB for his team, only maybe Rivers would be better and fit in there.

    His first super bowl is really an abomination, he played horrible and the refs gave him one.

    His second super bowl, a line backer got a 100 yard touch down for his team that kind of helps.
    But no one will ever be able to take that wining drive away from him, they beat a great team that year fair and square.

    In defense of the reciever, it must be a great shock to play football all your life and then get dropped into the Manning system at really the height of his career.
    Manning, Brees, Brady are leadership guys.
    Rogers, Little Manning, Ben, not the same kind of leaders at all as the other three. But they have had a ton of success.
    Where does Cutler fit in? Not a leader, no rings….

  96. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 3:55 PM

    In 2011, the Steelers lost to the Ravens twice, the 49ers and the Bengals. They beat the Bengals and Patriots.
    Secondly, Redmen filled in for an injured Mendenhall against the Broncos. Redman gained 121 yards on 17 carries. Heath Miller also played in that game.
    Roethlisberger completed 22 of 40 passes, for 289 yards. He threw one TD pass and one interception. His passer rating was a 75.
    The game was lost in the first quarter. Had the Steelers scored at least one TD, the underdog Broncos might’ve packed it in. Instead, they were able to hang around and pull off the upset.

  97. footballfanatic666 says: Aug 13, 2014 3:57 PM

    how laughable of an article… he hasn’t played one down with Manning… whether it is true or not is irrelevant and unfounded thus far… pft… making something out of noting as usual…

  98. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Aug 13, 2014 3:58 PM

    And how many rings are sitting on your mantle, jmblosser82? ZERO. Someone who helped win one can shush me. Someone who did nothing more than wear their laundry can’t.

  99. posmoo says: Aug 13, 2014 4:04 PM

    For the last decade Ben couldn’t bother to put down the doubledoubles and jog a few times a week for his proffession, this case is not close.

  100. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:09 PM

    Bob, they swept the bengals that year, get you facts straight.

  101. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:10 PM

    stainlesstill: You’re on the clock.

  102. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:18 PM

    thegenoatkinsdiet, I guess your right, when that defense gets blown up and the Bengals go back to being the Bungles, that will hush you for me. My point was the Bengals have won a playoff game since what ‘ 90-91? Meanwhile the Steelers have gone to 4 SBs while winning 2. They also have more playoff wins since Ben came into the league than the Bengals in franchise history.

  103. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:19 PM

    Jm, what about your “facts”? By my count, with your correction, they were 3-3 against playoff teams. How about “Manning” up and concede your 3-1 assertion is a bit generous?

  104. bengal4life says: Aug 13, 2014 4:32 PM

    Dalton’s only been in the league for 3 years and he’s already thrown for more TD’s in a season than Ben has ever in a season. That tells me that Ben is a product of his defense.

  105. stainlessstill says: Aug 13, 2014 4:35 PM

    In 2011, the Steelers lost to the Ravens twice, the 49ers and the Bengals. They beat the Bengals and Patriots.
    Secondly, Redmen filled in for an injured Mendenhall against the Broncos. Redman gained 121 yards on 17 carries. Heath Miller also played in that game.
    Roethlisberger completed 22 of 40 passes, for 289 yards. He threw one TD pass and one interception. His passer rating was a 75.
    The game was lost in the first quarter. Had the Steelers scored at least one TD, the underdog Broncos might’ve packed it in. Instead, they were able to hang around and pull off the upset.

    ——————–

    Proving my point. You’re dogging Ben for not scoring a touchdown drive in the first QRT with backups and reserves. Ben played exceptionally well with a battered offense on a mangled ankle. He led his team to 23 points and brought his team back from a big halftime deficit. The hate in you is seriously blaming Ben and the offense when it clearly was a defensive gameplan MELTDOWN for Dick LeBeau and his defense. Ben gave his team the chance to win. If there was anything that lost that game when it came to the first half, it was that defense, who practically shut Denver out in the second half. If anything was lost in that first half, it was at the hands of the defense.

  106. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:41 PM

    Yeah, SuperBen won all those games all by himself.
    The Steelers qualified for the postseason just as many times (6) in the 10 years prior to Roethlisberger as they have in the 10 seasons with him.
    Steelers haven’t won a division title since 2010. Haven’t made the playoffs since 2011. What’s Ben been doing? What a slacker!!!

  107. lunchbox92 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:43 PM

    So the argument for Roethlisberger that people have made here us “look how great he is in the playoffs and look at the championships he’s won.” Then, people point out he lost to Tebow. Then the response is “well, there are other factors like the defense and his supporting cast too.” So it seems he gets all the credit for playoff successes and no blame for playoff failures. Got it.

  108. bobzilla1001 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:50 PM

    Hey, brainlesstill, the only backup was Redman. He gained 121 yards on 17 carries. Read slowly: 121 yards on 17 carries.
    This was the game that got Bruce Arians fired after his offense had finished 22nd in scoring during the regular season.
    TWENTY-SECOND.
    Bruce, fired.
    Roethlisberger had a chance in regulation to beat the Broncos; only he didn’t. Just as he didn’t against the Packers in Super Bowl 45.

  109. dpaste99 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:53 PM

    Maybe I’m just old school but for a moment there I thought the caption read (Barry) Sanders says (Walter) Payton was a better leader.

  110. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Aug 13, 2014 4:53 PM

    And you avoided my point. Ben hasn’t been the magical player you make him out to be since the defense stopped carrying the team. Has he?

    Your need to make every Steeler out to be better than every other player on every other team is irrational. Funny, but irrational.

    On the other hand, your need to feel that your shirt makes you better than others is irrational and not funny.

  111. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:53 PM

    bengal4life, Dalton crumbles in prime time, Ben is a proven winner. Dalton tossed 33 TDs last year, in his fourth year Ben tossed 32. It’s not Ben’s fault that the Steelers game plan was run first, bare pass.

    Bob, give yourself a point, heck 2. I was focused on the wins and not the losses. I was also wrong about Miller not playing. But they had 4 RBs on IR that year, 2/5 of the starting line was out, Ben play with a bad ankle sprain, 1/3 of the starting d-line was out, 1/2 of the secondary was out, but at least the LB core was intact. I may give Ben a little too much credit but you severely underrate him.

  112. sc5000 says: Aug 13, 2014 4:54 PM

    Big Bens first Superbowl stats
    9/21
    123 yards
    0 td’s
    2 picks
    QBR 22.6

    Please stop pretending that Big Ben is better than Peyton or is the better cluthch qb. Its a team sport

  113. juststeel says: Aug 13, 2014 4:57 PM

    The best leader I have been around, Ben never had to be mentioned.
    You must choose your words wisely or they will be used for fodder.

  114. jmblosser82 says: Aug 13, 2014 5:16 PM

    Geno, I never said Every Steeler is better than every other player. I simply pointed out while you mentioned the Steelers were 0-1 since 2011 in the playoffs I replied that the Bengals were 0-3 in the playoffs since ’11 and before you run your mouth about no playoff wins maybe wait until the Bengals break their 20+ year playoff win drought. Then you came back at me about no having to shush unless I have a SB ring on my mantle, so I replied with the success the Steelers had since the Bengals last won a playoff game.

  115. steelcurtainn says: Aug 13, 2014 5:17 PM

    Big Ben had one of his best seasons last year. That’s not something the haters want to hear. Expect even the same or better this year with an improved line and running game. The mere fact that most anti-steelers still talk about him shows he still very much relevant to win the big one again.

  116. scoobies05 says: Aug 13, 2014 7:19 PM

    Ben did have a very good season last year. and because the defense was awful they finished 8 and 8 and out of the playoffs because he isn’t a qb that can carry a team without a defense

  117. flaccounibrow says: Aug 13, 2014 7:22 PM

    While comparisons are being made….Antoino Brown is twice the receiver that Emanuel Sanders is. At least that is what I’d say if I was Big Ben.

  118. steelcurtainn says: Aug 13, 2014 9:46 PM

    I agree scoobs. Its always been a team game.

  119. ravensenvysteelers says: Aug 13, 2014 10:26 PM

    Emmanuel also has wet dreams about Peyton manning

  120. boomerwe says: Aug 14, 2014 8:38 AM

    Ok its the Super Bowl, time running out fourth and goal. QB drops back to pass offensive line breaks down now QB is scrambling for his life. Who do you want Ben or Peyton. Yeah that’s what I thought. Love Peyton but as soon as that line breaks down the play is over and so is the game.

  121. steelersnowand4ever says: Aug 14, 2014 9:22 AM

    Sanders is the Mike Wallace of 2014

  122. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Aug 14, 2014 11:13 AM

    You went after me, not the point I made. Be better than an ad hominem.

  123. brazzz01 says: Aug 14, 2014 9:29 PM

    As for Sanders of course he’s going to say something like that that about his new QB. Who wouldn’t?

  124. salutethis says: Aug 15, 2014 2:35 AM

    Peyton prepares better than anybody in football. Ben might be a good leader but since when has Ben really been the face of that team? Polamalu, Harrison, Clark… These guys were the face of that team when the team was good. Ben became the face of the team as these guys got/traded/released. And then he lost to Tebow. Granted Peyton lost to the ravens with a good defense..(when the Denver defense hadn’t learned penalties aren’t called in the playoffs and to play a little dirty.. See ravens/seahawks). But Ben lost to Tebow when his defense was hurtin a little bit. Honestly how can you compare the two?

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