Johnny Manziel: If I went back, I wouldn’t do anything differently

AP

The Browns officially named Brian Hoyer their starting quarterback for the first week of the regular season on Wednesday, leaving first-round pick and 2012 Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel to serve as the No. 2 quarterback to start his first year in the NFL.

Browns coach Mike Pettine said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that Manziel reacted “as expected” because he’s “a competitor.” He also said that he didn’t question Manziel’s dedication to the game after an offseason that had some wondering whether Manziel’s fondness for the good life would have the Browns doing just that.

For his part, Manziel said he felt he got a fair opportunity to win the starting job and that “I don’t feel like I would’ve gone back and done anything differently” over the last few months. Instead, he put the focus on his own performance and said he didn’t “necessarily” feel like he was ready to get the nod from Pettine.

“If I would’ve come out and played better, I think it would’ve been a different outcome,” Manziel said.

It’s probably a fair assessment of the situation. Hoyer didn’t set the world on fire this summer, so it’s hard to feel that all of the rolled up dollar bills, drinking on inflatable swans and extended middle fingers in the world would have stopped Manziel from getting to the top of the depth chart if he’d been the clearly superior player on the field.

119 responses to “Johnny Manziel: If I went back, I wouldn’t do anything differently

  1. so manziel couldnt beat out a journeymen type qb? when every single chip was stacked in his favor, basically his job to lose, and he found a way to lose it.

  2. Bros – it’s like this. I’m here to boogie and lay waste to the beautiful ladies of Cleveland and it’s legendary night life. Any wins and/or completed forward passes are a bonus in mind.

  3. “Instead, he put the focus on his own performance and said he didn’t “necessarily” feel like he was ready to get the nod from Pettine.”

    So if Manziel himself admits he was not ready, why is everyone bent out of shape about him not being thrown in the fire?

    He needs to work on running the huddle and managing between plays. He’s really at a basic level when it comes to this part of the game.

  4. Of course he wouldn’t. Johnny’s got this whole football thing figured out. That job was his for the taking and while he was rolling 100’s in the bathroom, Hoyer was practicing being mediocre and keeping the job.

  5. Johnny, you don’t get it. Strippers will always be there to hold your rolled up dollar bill, the NFL won’t be. Figure out how to handle your business on the field and off.

  6. I wish his reaction was on Hard Knocks. 100% guarantee that the Browns are featured next year unless they get another new coach (if a team gets a new coach they are exempt from Hard Knocks, and my Browns like to change coaches – a lot).

  7. I would do things differently If i could do it all over again. Id do more drugs!
    – Richard Pryor

  8. Why people who keep saying Manziel will eventually get it are probably wrong is that they’re not taking into account how unique of a player this guy is. His father is as rich as most owners, so he’s probably even been around many of them in the past. Getting called out by the owner would get most players’ attention, but not Manziel.

    If his father expressed that he thought he was out of control and has had concerns about his drinking and immaturity since high school, how do you think this is going to end? He’s going to blow off advice from Haslem, Farmer, Pettine, and especially Kyle Shanahan or anybody else who tries to tell him what to do coming from that background.

  9. Manziel at post-game press conference (about middle finger incident)

    “I don’t think it’s a positive…I should’ve been smarter…I need to be smarter about that.”

    now…

    “I don’t feel like I would’ve gone back and done anything differently.”

    Apparently, Manziel doesn’t want to be any smarter than he already is, even though he acknowledges that he need to be.

  10. that’s sad to me, because I look at the stupid stuff I did at that age and wish I could.

    shows me he isn’t there yet(not surprising to anyone) and still is a child.

  11. Right, cause studying the playbook while out partying would be too much to ask. Poor Browns fans. Stuck defending him when they know they’d rather have a qb that was mature and drug free.

  12. To me this is the biggest red flag on Manziel yet. I don’t care that he partied in Las Vegas with Bieber or whatever his name is, don’t care too much about the picture with the rolled up bill, or the other stuff up to now.

    But to not have the hindsight to think of anything he could have improved on? This doesn’t sound like a rookie who knows he needs to work to get better. It sounds like Manziel expects the game to come to him instead of the other way around.

  13. So now that he should fade away into the sunset as a backup qb does the media continue to seek him out for comment and does he respond?
    I don’t see veterans allowing that to happen.
    Should be interesting…more so than the wretched product that will take the field.

  14. it’s hard to feel that all of the rolled up dollar bills, drinking on inflatable swans and extended middle fingers in the world would have stopped Manziel from getting to the top of the depth chart if he’d been the clearly superior player on the field
    ————————
    Right… but maybe he wasn’t the superior player on the field because he was too hungover after drinking on inflatable swans all night. Maybe he didn’t have time to put in the requisite work from May through July that would have given him the best chance to win the job in August because he was partying with Cher (or whoever you kids are into these days). Everybody wants to win once the whistle blows. Some want to win months ahead of time. Manziel doesn’t appear to fit in that second group.

  15. “‘If I would’ve come out and played better, I think it would’ve been a different outcome,’ Manziel said.”

    And if you had concentrated more on working to develop as a quarterback instead of partying every weekend this offseason, you might have played better. Spend less time rolling up $100 bills while riding inflatable swans and more time practicing, studying film, studying the playbook–basically, the things that SUCCESSFUL quarterbacks do–and it will be a different outcome. Grow up and be professional, party boy.

  16. This guy is the Yin to Tebows Yang. They both are not NFL QBs with over sized personalities and a knack for winning games they should probably lose. One loves Jesus, one loves cocaine and strippers.

    Both careers will be over by year 3.

  17. “I don’t feel like I would’ve gone back and done anything differently.”

    The Browns should have known this would be the type of maturity they could expect.

    More tape, more extra work with receivers, decipher the damn playbook, and instead of being LATE to a meeting, be the first player there…maybe that would have helped just a little bit?

    Leaders do not lead by talent, they lead by example. And the example Johnny has displayed thus far is not very professional.

    Good luck, Browns fans.

  18. It will be intersting to see how Hoyer plays this week without the constant distraction of Manziel’s presence.

    As for Manziel, it will be interesting to see if he ever does decide to make some changes and rearrange his priorities.

  19. What’s crazy is that Maniel had a better week in week 2 than he did in week 1, but everyone was singing his praises and ready to start him after week 1 and disappointed with how he looked in week 2.

    Makes zero sense. No one was willing to call a spade a spade after that first week, though.

  20. afcdomination: so true! Wish I could do things much def! He doesn’t get it! I hope one day he does? Also finally a Coach that does get it! Because you know the owner wanted him to start!

  21. It’s not easy being an immediate starter in the NFL. Bridgewater couldn’t beat Matt Cassel either.

  22. If Manziel hadn’t been drafted Shaw would have pushed Hoyer for the starting job with the added opportunity. Hopefully the browns don’t make a huge mistake and cut him.

  23. Hoyer was always going to be the starter, barring some insane display of incredible play by Johnny.

    Basically, the Browns were doing what Seattle did with Wilson and Flynn… give the job to the veteran unless the rookie played lights out and forced their hand. Unfortunately, Johnny hasn’t done that. At least not yet, anyways.

  24. If insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, then Manziel is the definition of foolishness: doing the same thing over and over again KNOWING the same stupid results are coming.

  25. I think people are reading a little too much into the whole situation, but I suppose that’s sports media in 2014 for you. He and Hoyer both looked decent in week 1 of preseason, but both looked worse in week 2. Honestly, given the play on the field, I would give Johnny a slight edge, but I wouldn’t say he was head and shoulders better than Hoyer.

    Manziel is a rookie and has time to learn. Hoyer is in the last year of his contract, so you might as well start him and see if he’s worth retaining. You can always start Manziel later this year or next after you have more time to evaluate Hoyer. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Plus, if you start Manziel and he gets off to a bad start-which is likely given their schedule-then you have a real problem.

  26. Whoa, waitaminute. You mean the Browns AREN’T going to draft a hapless rookie in the first round and throw him to wolves.. yet again? But that’s their usual M.O.!

    Well, good. Maybe this is a sign that someone with a brain works in Cleveland, after years of hollow skulls running the show.

    But I doubt it.

  27. well good news then , he can get back to throwing footballs through car windows. To bad he cant hit a open reciever though, least we cant say the car window dropped it.

  28. all the haters on Manziel need to remember the kid is in an entirely new offensive system, one that plays are typically 20+ words in length. This is a massive amount of information to process, along with adjusting to the speed of the pro game. That being said, he showed just as well as a guy who has been in this kinda system for a while now. We all know hoyers ceiling, and we all know Manziel’s is fathoms higher

  29. revelation123 says:
    Aug 20, 2014 3:39 PM
    It’s not easy being an immediate starter in the NFL. Bridgewater couldn’t beat Matt Cassel either.
    ————–
    Cassel and Bridgewater have both looked better than Hoyer and Manziel this preseason.. which probably doesn’t mean anything.

  30. This is why you don’t draft a player who doesn’t have the discipline and sense of responsibility to get his college degree to be your franchise QB.

    QBs who didn’t graduate from college have the highest bust rate.

  31. That about says it all when it comes to Manziel!!!I can’t believe he said such an utterly stupid thing. May-be the NFL learning curve is just too steep for this boy. As a long time Brown fan, I’m very disappointed in what I’ve seen of Manziel so far.

  32. lets be honest….the browns can’t have J football go in there and blow…they will wait to see what happens to Gordon…when their best target is there J Foot will get into the game and his stats will be better…don’t set him up for failure…even though he’s doing a good job of it all by himself

  33. luvmnsports2012 True that Brother, True that! Ignorance is bliss!l Don’t sleep on Hoyer? Especially with that Defense, I see the Browns making a playoff push! I’m not even a Browns fan! I root for them because the way Art really stuck it to there fans! Hope the Browns do well this year!

  34. Maybe not John, but I’m sure the Cleveland Browns would. Then again drafting Bridgewater instead might break their tradition of ineptitude at QB.

  35. He is 21. He was never in a huddle before this summer. He needs to sit 2 years. Any talk that he had the deck stacked in his favor is from people who read the national media.

    Hoyer is serviceable and can keep the seat warm. He has a few weeks of first team reps ahead to recapture last year’s rhythm.

    Take the pick we fleeced out of Buffalo and draft another QB high next year to add to the stable. Then may the best man win.

    You’re welcome.

    GO BROWNS!

  36. “Hoyer was always going to be the starter, barring some insane display of incredible play by Johnny.

    Basically, the Browns were doing what Seattle did with Wilson and Flynn… give the job to the veteran unless the rookie played lights out and forced their hand. ”

    But see, Manziel was really hyped up this offseason, so you’d think he’s supposed to be pretty good. Also, Wilson was a 3rd round pick, and Flynn had shown what he could do with the Packers. (At that time, people didn’t realize he could only really replicate that with the Packers.)

    Meanwhile, the Jaguars are telling Bortles to sit behind Henne, and Bortles has put in the effort and played well enough to get them to give him a shot at playing with the first string and practicing with them, and it’s looking more and more like he might win the job. And Henne’s actually played better than Hoyer this preseason, Bortles has just put in that much effort to improve the areas he needs to improve.

    If Manziel displayed the same attitude as Bortles, he could have gotten the starting job. I don’t think Manziel’s as good as Bortles (I might have before seeing Bortles actually on an NFL field), but he could definitely have been good enough to start if he’d put in some effort. He didn’t need to be “amazing” or “lights out.” I wouldn’t say Bortles has been (though, okay, he has been pretty good). He just needed to actually put in some bloody effort. And that has to be maddening for Browns fans to see, knowing that this kid could actually do something, but instead chooses to out-Ryan Leaf Ryan Leaf.

  37. Maybe not act like a prima Donna would help. Ride the pine for a while to get your mind straight.

  38. I have a feeling he may be saying the same thing when he’s out of the league in a few years OR after a long suspension.

    It’s very difficult to see a solid career coming from this guy.

  39. This comment says everything about him. He lost the job because of things he didn’t do well or didn’t behave in a way that team thought was good. Then he says…”I wouldn’t do anything differently” Talk about ego and uncoachable.

  40. Fundamental mismatch. RG3 drove Kyle Shanahan crazy in Washington, so how’s it going to go with a new QB who likes to improvise and scramble and craves attention on and off the field? Shanahan even signed his boring old QB, Rex Grossman (RG1) to help Johnny learn what he wants.
    Johnny is a confidence player who will struggle with an Shanahan who likes to control everything.

  41. You know you used no playbook in college. You know you need to learn your new team’s playbook. You will be the one who has to relay the plays from the sideline to your team. You will be the one who has to audible to a different play if necessary. But, instead of studying the playbook, something that you never used your entire college career and take ownership of the responsibility you’re seeking to lead your team, you waste time running around the country basking in the adoration of folks who’ll discard you in a minute for the next thing that comes along and/or once the crumbs from your table aren’t enough to satisfy their appetites. And, just at the moment you should reflect on your decisions with some humility, you say, I wouldn’t have “done things any differently.” We get it. You obviously don’t. Good luck, sir. You’ll need it.

  42. Manziel’s new nickname, which I have just trade marked: Wait for it …

    Johnny BENCH!!!

    OK I stole it, but I’m applying for the trade mark

  43. So he says he wasn’t ready, but wouldn’t do anything else differently?

    Does he forget all the things he did that took away from preparation time?

    Exactly. He’s stills so mentally young, he doesn’t even have the ability to correct himself.

    Yes, Johnny, because you weren’t ready, you should of spent more time preparing, and if you had, perhaps things would of been different.

    You were only trying to beat out a physically unimpressive, journeyman QB. It isn’t like you were Andrew Luck and he forced out Peyton Manning without a snap.

  44. christophershearin says:
    Aug 20, 2014 4:06 PM
    all the haters on Manziel need to remember the kid is in an entirely new offensive system, one that plays are typically 20+ words in length. This is a massive amount of information to process, along with adjusting to the speed of the pro game. That being said, he showed just as well as a guy who has been in this kinda system for a while now. We all know hoyers ceiling, and we all know Manziel’s is fathoms higher
    ————————————–

    Correct!!

    Which is why spending time in Vegas and arriving late at meetings is probably the wrong approach.

  45. This just delays the inevitable. The Browns will lose in Week 1 and the QB controversy will heat up bigtime. Lose again in Week 2 and Manziel will be named the starter. Its not rocket science. Manziel wasn’t drafted in the 1st round so he can hold a clipboard. Not for very long, anyway. Do the backup QBs even hold clipboards anymore? They must have ipads now 🙂

  46. Compare him to Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning. Both stayed in school four years. Bill Polian on Espn no rookie should start without 30 games started in college. He has so much to learn, that it will only benefit him to sit half a season.

  47. If believe the Browns will have a top ten, if not a top five Defense! I would take Haden and Gilbert on my team twice on Sunday! Though, I wish you guys would had kept T. J. Ward? How sweet of a secondary that would have been! Ward, Haden, Gilbert!! Shoosh!! Pettine is not a fool! He knows the quickest way to loose your job in the NFL is QB and Corner! Well you’re set in Corner, your D line is really good, LB’s are really good and your secondary is one of the best in the league! That’s right I said it! One of the best in the league! I didn’t say the best! So Hawk fans and especially “Patsy'”fans don’t get in a twist! The “Patsy’s” have a really good D line but they’re not even close to having a secondary like the Browns! Revis is great, probably the best to ever play that position! Yes, that includes so called “Prime time” Revis well get off his coverage make a tackle unlike “Prime!” Joe Haden is also a beast! He’s a great Corner that will get off his coverage and knock someone out! Sorry, I’m getting off topic lol. My point is, if Hoyer can make the throws he needs to make? Your Defense is good enough to keep you in every single game! Maybe, even win I few games for you guys!! Hoyer was the right choice! Also, watching that kid Shaw! He looked really good! It wouldn’t surprise me if Pettine makes him the back up! Well, that’s if the $&@”.,? Owner can keep his mouth shut and let the coaches make the Football decisions, that’s a very big IF!!!! I hope the Browns do very well this year! You guys “fans” deserve it! Especially after what Art did to you guys! PS. I love that kid West!! Hopefully Pettine well make him the work horse! He really looks the part and runs like Halfbacks in today’s NFL! I really like West! #Jetsfanforlife

  48. I don’t particularly think he has done anything THAT bad…he definitely hasn’t done worse than some other players (Ray Rice). I think the problem came when he decided to put his partying in the media by making poor decisions in public. By giving himself the “party” boy image, he created an unreachable expectation from the football world…unless he was perfect, he was going to be shunned for partying and not focusing.

    Not saying that isn’t his fault for creating that perception…but to hate on him THIS much for partying when he is 21 in the offseason? Any of you remember what you acted like when you were 21? He’s just like that…with endless money and fame. He still hasn’t fallen as hard as some other guys.

  49. Orrrrrrr… maybe the problem is that he’s a rookie and in no way should be put on a football field against the Steelers when he can’t even remember the plays and has looked downright overwhelmed in the preseason. He may never be good enough but he surely isn’t ready to start today.

  50. It’s funny. Before the draft, all the experts said none of the top QBs this year — especially JFF — would be ready to start right away. And now when that scenario plays out, people seem surprised.

    The kid may succeed eventually or he may be a bust — but either way, it wasn’t too hard to predict that he wouldn’t be the starter on day one.

    The sad part for him was that Hoyer didn’t particularly do anything to keep the job, so Manziel might have snatched it with more effort and a better attitude.

    But in the long run, a little more time on the bench may do him some good.

  51. In Manziel’s defense, he only flipped off the Redskins bench because it looked much more comfortable than what he’ll be riding.

  52. Manziel shouldn’t be defiant. Instead, he should admit his shortcomings and apologize to his fans, like Bill Leavy apologized to the Seahawks for favoring the Steelers in SB40.

  53. Good lord only in Cleveland would a perrenial backup be considered a savior only because he is a hometown boy.!

  54. Awful lot of hateful, demeaning comments here about a young kid. Jealousy is not a characteristic to emulate. Get off his back and see how he is in a couple years.

  55. The question isn’t if you would do anything differently its if Cleveland would if they had a redo. I bet Farmer would of hidden the owners phone if he could hop on a time machine. I hope this kid gets his stuff together he is a big talent but his attitude will be a barrier to his success unfortunately

  56. On kickoffs, when the wind blows the ball off the tee twice, they let a player place his finger on the ball so the ball won’t fall off the tee again. Johnny Football could be named as the designated starter for this role and put his finger to productive use for the team.

  57. He’s got the mentality of a thirteen year old. At this point, I am really wondering if he is smart enough to learn the playbook.

  58. The definition of insanity is, “to do the same thing again and expect a different outcome.”

    So, does he not want to start or does he think if he did it all over again, he would?

  59. Johnny may be smarter than anyone is giving him credit for. He’s already made more money than I have in my entire life, while working a whole lot less, too.

    So, he rides the bench for a couple of years while hocking the newest pet rock, local pizza, or whatever. Meanwhile, Hoyer gets the crap beat out of him, Pettine “learns” how to be a Head Coach, and not just a coordinator, and Browns fans are setting fire to downtown.

    In a couple of years, Johnny crawls out from his bomb shelter, and conquers the world with his #1 draft pick team mates surrounding him. Hell, they might even have a serviceable RT by then.

    Money for nothing, and the chicks are free!

  60. Its obvious Manziel still doesn’t get it. Maybe he’ll get a revelation while carrying that clipboard around.

  61. I gotta say he handles himself well. He’s straight up with himself and I have to give credit when it’s due. And this is coming from a die hard bengals fan that has been watching this very closely. WHO DEY!

  62. This is only a temporary setback. The Browns made a grave error here, but its not irrevocable…..JF will be money for the Browns very shortly. Even the Browns leadership cannot deny JF’s football acumen for long. JF will be the starter soon.

  63. I really don’t understand all the hate toward this kid. Granted I’m not a part of the “Manziel Mania” generation but using common sense I didn’t see him being any differently either since he’s only 21 and he shouldn’t have to change his OFFSEASON lifestyle. I seriously doubt when he’s on the field he’s thinking about money phones. People act like every great athlete is in home bed by 8 PM. Have we forgot about the not so squeaky clean private lives of superstars like Kobe Bryant, Brett Favre, Ben Roethlesberger, Tiger Woods, Ray Lewis and I can go on and on and every one of them have won a lot of titles in their sport.

    To be honest it might be motivation to be BETTER. If he crashes and burns in the NFL all the celebrities, women and people he thinks are his friends will disappear overnight and he seems like a pretty smart kid so he probably knows this.

    Fact is he’s on the Browns for the next 4 years. Brian Hoyer on the other hand is on the final year of a 2 year deal. Manziel has one year to learn because in 2015 he’s the starter with no competition needed.

  64. The Browns never should have listened to the homeless guy and let Manziel become someone else’s headache.

    Taking Sammy Watkins and adding depth at another position was the way to build this team the right way.

    Either way, this team was destined for another 5 win season with or without Manziel which would have allowed them to choose a franchise quarterback from a much deeper talent pool in 2015.

    The receiving trio of Gordon, Watkins and Jordan would have ranked in the top 5 in the NFL and made life so much better for a rookie quarterback in 2015.

    Go ahead… tell me how wrong I am.

  65. i sure wish cleveland had not drafted manziel…and i bet he’s thinking that too…..

    pettine…shanahan…a rookie coach and a fired coordinator….and a dysfunctional franchise…ouch…!!!

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