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Rams cut 17 players, but none of them were Michael Sam

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Michael Sam became the reality show of the NFL Draft weekend, as the nation waited to see if someone would draft an openly gay player.

It appears draft weekend could turn out the same way.

According to Tom Pelissero of USA Today, the Rams have cut 17 players today, but none of them were Sam.

Among the cuts were defensive linemen Kourtnei Brown and Deantre Harlan, along with sixth-round quarterback Garrett Gilbert and seventh-round tackle Mitchell Van Dyk.

That would move them to 58, with five cuts to go to the limit.

And the world will be watching to see if Sam makes history.

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77 Responses to “Rams cut 17 players, but none of them were Michael Sam”
  1. brudog says: Aug 29, 2014 5:49 PM

    History?!?!?…can’t we just leave it alone and refer to him as FOOTBALL PLAYER…geez

  2. rarelyclever says: Aug 29, 2014 5:49 PM

    The world?

  3. dustydad says: Aug 29, 2014 5:50 PM

    How is Sam going to make history? He is a football player that may make the team because of his talent. That is it. I don’t consider him a “gay” football player, I consider him just a football player.

  4. nyyjetsknicks says: Aug 29, 2014 5:54 PM

    He’s already been drafted and will be with the Rams or some other NFL team this year.

  5. timcast12 says: Aug 29, 2014 5:54 PM

    ^^^^ I agree

  6. longtimefanhtr says: Aug 29, 2014 5:54 PM

    Happy he made the team.

  7. beattention says: Aug 29, 2014 5:56 PM

    I consider him a gay player as well as many others do.

  8. sabatimus says: Aug 29, 2014 5:58 PM

    Actually no, this one will NEVER be left alone.

  9. Michael Sam is a very brave person to come out as the first gay NFL player. Andrew Suck should learn from Michael Sam and come out, too, instead of hiding in a closet. says: Aug 29, 2014 5:58 PM

    I hope he makes the team.

  10. jtgush says: Aug 29, 2014 5:59 PM

    to bad they didn’t cut Bradford, what a waste of 50 mil……bust

  11. runtheball says: Aug 29, 2014 6:00 PM

    If he makes the team, he may still be inactive every week.

  12. kwjsb says: Aug 29, 2014 6:02 PM

    “if Sam makes history.”

    No matter how long or how well he plays, even if he hits the Hall of Fame…. He will always be known for his “preference” and not his play ….. and what makes this really sad is He chose this himself.

  13. jmb795 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:03 PM

    History will be made when/if Michael makes the cut and it’s not front page material.

  14. gronkton says: Aug 29, 2014 6:05 PM

    It is history…..Discrimination takes many forms and it is equally respectable IMO when any individual is able to lessen the stigmas/misconceptions/blah blah blah that goes along with a particular group/race/gender/sexual orientation/interest group/blah blah blah…..Whether people like it or not being gay (regardless of if you agree with the lifestyle or not) is an extreme burden to live with in the current day, it seems it is becoming less so however…………..because of the efforts of individuals like Michael Sam and writers like Darin Gantt highlighting those aforementioned efforts. I too hope one day a story like this becomes a non story but people c’mon if you really don’t see why repeated stories like this are positive for society then….I think we get the point…..but honestly if you have ever ended up growing up with someone who was gay then you may have the same opinion I do because you may have seen just how damaging societal misconceptions can be for someone dealing with that….

    yes I realize my post was filled with all kinds of grammar issues and syntax problems blah blah blah but i’m posting about an idea and am hoping other people can focus on the bigger concept

  15. realfootballfan says: Aug 29, 2014 6:05 PM

    Why do people keep bringing up this guy surviving cuts like it’s a problem? He made the team. He got to the QB in a passing league in his audition, regardless of whether you want to scrutinize him for being the first openly gay player or not. It would have been more of a problem if he didn’t make it because he clearly did with his play this pre-season.

  16. nyyjetsknicks says: Aug 29, 2014 6:05 PM

    kwjsb says:
    Aug 29, 2014 6:02 PM
    “if Sam makes history.”

    No matter how long or how well he plays, even if he hits the Hall of Fame…. He will always be known for his “preference” and not his play ….. and what makes this really sad is He chose this himself.
    _________________

    He was born gay and just wanted to play in the NFL and live his life, just like every other current player.

  17. pgilbert15303 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:06 PM

    Good job Sam!

  18. f1restarter says: Aug 29, 2014 6:07 PM

    I suspect there may have been pressure from certain groups (and possibly the commissioner) to make sure Michael Sam makes the team. You never know…

  19. gronkton says: Aug 29, 2014 6:08 PM

    “No matter how long or how well he plays, even if he hits the Hall of Fame…. He will always be known for his “preference” and not his play ….. and what makes this really sad is He chose this himself.”

    thats kind of the point dum dum….he is laying the ground work so other gay players may have a chance to be treated normally

  20. lks311 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:12 PM

    The thing that I’m most surprised about (and most proud of) is the utter disregard that most everyone on this board has for his sexual orientation.

    And, as we all know, the PFT comment community is a tough crowd.

  21. azjhawk90 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:12 PM

    I was hoping he would get cut so this circus would finally stop. Too bad he’s just a good FOOTBALL player.

  22. rajbais says: Aug 29, 2014 6:17 PM

    Why not Brian Quick???

  23. theparadoxx82 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:20 PM

    Can’t wait for the play by play of Sam on the bench.

  24. longtimefanhtr says: Aug 29, 2014 6:20 PM

    Sooner or later people in this country will be judged on things other than race, religion, sex, national creed or sexual preference.

  25. patfic5 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:22 PM

    Thus news is faaaabulous!

  26. fnc111 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:30 PM

    What history is he making?

  27. dirtyrobb says: Aug 29, 2014 6:30 PM

    Why does the fact that he is gay make him more special than every other player in the NFL? Equality is being equal not more special because he’s gay!

  28. omegalh says: Aug 29, 2014 6:30 PM

    History is the first guy we don’t talk about doing the same thing. That’s acceptance.

  29. nyyjetsknicks says: Aug 29, 2014 6:32 PM

    longtimefanhtr says:
    Aug 29, 2014 6:20 PM
    Sooner or later people in this country will be judged on things other than race, religion, sex, national creed or sexual preference.
    _____________

    Sooner or later adults will stop believing in fairytales and science won’t be seen as a political position.

  30. chawkup says: Aug 29, 2014 6:32 PM

    kwjsb says:
    Aug 29, 2014 6:02 PM
    “if Sam makes history.”

    No matter how long or how well he plays, even if he hits the Hall of Fame…. He will always be known for his “preference” and not his play ….. and what makes this really sad is He chose this himself.
    ______________
    No, he did not choose to be gay, any less than you choose to be straight. It’s also not a preference. It’s not 1950 anymore.

  31. haaaaasoooooo says: Aug 29, 2014 6:33 PM

    Wait a sec….Michael Sam is WHAT? NO WAY! You’re kidding, right?

  32. wny49er says: Aug 29, 2014 6:35 PM

    Can’t wait to see what he does against first-team starters, instead of back up scrubs!

  33. rcali says: Aug 29, 2014 6:38 PM

    Okay, got it. No more kissing jokes.

  34. cccpsimian says: Aug 29, 2014 6:40 PM

    Nothing like a Michael Sam article to bring the bigots crawling out from under their rocks.

    #TeamSam

  35. largent80100 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:42 PM

    Since I couldn’t care less about his sexual preference or the storm that comes with it (for him and against him), I’m going to analyse him as a player.

    Sam will probably be cut by St Louis, they won’t carry 10 defensive linemen, their like is stacked, is the best unit the team has now.

    But unless the distraction factor plays against him, he’ll probably get a spot (even in a practice squad) from another team or maybe SL itself, since he can be a backup player.

    And that’s it, about his preferences, I will only say two things: neither is reason for outrage nor for getting him privileges.

  36. player169 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:54 PM

    “Sooner or later people in this country will be judged on things other than race, religion, sex, national creed or sexual preference.”

    -____________________________

    Wrong, it’s human nature to judge. I’m judging you based on your short sentence. We all can choose to be kind or malicious…choices. We will never stop judging…wake up…

  37. chrisk61 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:59 PM

    the wrong sam is being called a bubble player. if st louis made better resource allocation decisions, they would cut ties, or better, HAVE CUT TIES as in past tense, with another sam, SAM I DON’T HAVE AN ARM AND NOW I DON’T HAVE A KNEE BRADFORD.

    allowing bradford to remain the starter into this year was an egregious gaffe by st louis management. much worse that what cleve did relative to josh gordon.

  38. elliottcovert says: Aug 29, 2014 7:14 PM

    What would be more surprising is if two or three of them were Michael Sam.

  39. shlort says: Aug 29, 2014 7:15 PM

    A lot of people are saying that they are happy he made the team. Well, there are 5 more players to be released, and a lot of the speculation in most sports media says that Sam will end up being released.

    The real question is this. Do the Rams dare cut him? The political backlash of cutting Sam is more of a factor than his ability.

    Watching the player play, I have seen a young player who is not as good as most people think or hope he will be. Sam is slow to react and not very fast. Some people see just the opposite, but those are folks who hope he makes it in the NFL because he is gay.

  40. broncobub says: Aug 29, 2014 7:19 PM

    Whether he’s cut by the Rams or not, Michael Sam WILL get a spot on an NFL roster. Why?

    Because whether the bigots care to acknowledge it or not… he’s earned his shot.

    #TeamSam

  41. willjasper says: Aug 29, 2014 7:25 PM

    Even if he survives the cut to 53, he could still be released between Saturday and Opening Kickoff. The fringe guys are always susceptible to being replaced.

  42. redskinspatronum says: Aug 29, 2014 7:32 PM

    No matter how long or how well he plays, even if he hits the Hall of Fame…. He will always be known for his “preference” and not his play ….. and what makes this really sad is He chose this himself.

    ________________________________

    What does This mean?

    He’s a football player that was talented enough to be drafted and made the best of his opportunity to make a 53 man roster on a team in the National Football League.

    How would you describe the situation?

  43. nyyjetsknicks says: Aug 29, 2014 7:33 PM

    willjasper says:
    Aug 29, 2014 7:25 PM
    Even if he survives the cut to 53, he could still be released between Saturday and Opening Kickoff. The fringe guys are always susceptible to being replaced.
    ________________

    This is true and is always the weird part of hardknocks. Guys celebrate making the team and are cut just hours later.

  44. blabidibla says: Aug 29, 2014 7:38 PM

    Cue 100’s of comments spurred on by the overwhelming urge people feel when they claim they don’t care.

  45. buffaloisadumpsterandtheirfansaremorons says: Aug 29, 2014 7:41 PM

    Too many fairy tale believers in here spewing their made up, unproven views.

  46. buffaloisadumpsterandtheirfansaremorons says: Aug 29, 2014 7:43 PM

    kwjsb says:
    Aug 29, 2014 6:02 PM
    “if Sam makes history.”

    No matter how long or how well he plays, even if he hits the Hall of Fame…. He will always be known for his “preference” and not his play ….. and what makes this really sad is He chose this himself.
    —–

    Did electricity exist in the era you’re from? Because education surely didn’t.

  47. mkelly534 says: Aug 29, 2014 7:47 PM

    Even if they tried to cut him and sign him to the practice roster I doubt he would have cleared waivers. He looked decent when he played in pre season and I think he will be a pretty good player. But not a star.

  48. briang123 says: Aug 29, 2014 7:58 PM

    If he gets cuts it will be because of bigotry and nothing more. Players who had the pre-season he had always make the team, and he would be the first i ever saw to get cut despite great pre-season play. If he is released, the NFL should investigate and suspended the GM and Coach at least as long as the NFL suspended that Minnesota coach who hated gays.

  49. smackingfools says: Aug 29, 2014 7:58 PM

    Take a look at that sack against Manziel. The LT didn’t even try to block him. Just let him go right on by. Didn’t even try to get in front of him.

  50. thelastwordyaheard says: Aug 29, 2014 8:00 PM

    never trust a guy with two first names..

  51. anarchcapitalist says: Aug 29, 2014 8:04 PM

    Can Michael Sam play quarterback?

  52. anarchcapitalist says: Aug 29, 2014 8:10 PM

    and please no jokes about Michael Sam and a certain offensive line position.

  53. gmsalpha says: Aug 29, 2014 8:18 PM

    Waiting until the last moment to cut him just keeps the story alive. The Rams don’t need to see more of his play. They just don’t want to make a decision until the last second. Nothing to see here.

  54. ramitbaby says: Aug 29, 2014 8:19 PM

    He’ll make “history” either way. Either by being the first out of the closet player to make an NFL roster or as the guy who sold the most jerseys without playing a single down for his team.

  55. scyankee64 says: Aug 29, 2014 8:30 PM

    As deep as the Rams are, they don’t need him. He’s simply not very good. If he makes the team it’s probably a quid pro quo with the commissioner’s office, or it’s just a PC PR move.

  56. j0esixpack says: Aug 29, 2014 8:46 PM

    Good for Sam if he makes the final cut

    What’s really “making history” here is the fact that we all don’t give a crap what his sexual orientation is

    We just want to see good football.

    Period.

  57. kingpel says: Aug 29, 2014 8:54 PM

    Even if they cut him he will have to be last. They will catch less heat that way.

  58. skawh says: Aug 29, 2014 9:24 PM

    Can’t the ‘phobes give it a rest already? The man made the team. Can’t you simply be happy for someone’s dreams coming true?

  59. igotgamenj says: Aug 29, 2014 9:29 PM

    Chris McCain !!!!!

  60. jcphitman says: Aug 29, 2014 9:35 PM

    I don’t get why this has to be news? Aren’t we simply rating players based on their play? Who cares what they do outside the football field. Let the guy be known for his play and not what he does in his private time. I don’t care what he does. I only care if he’s a good football player.

  61. gborange says: Aug 29, 2014 9:58 PM

    I hope he gets cut and picked up by the redskins! The bleeding hearts wouldn’t know what to do!

  62. highhardheat says: Aug 29, 2014 10:08 PM

    Cut him.

  63. metalhead65 says: Aug 29, 2014 10:17 PM

    if he was not gay he would not have made the first round of cuts. the sooner he gets on the field against first team talent and embarrasses himself and hurts the rams the sooner a better player gets the job he should have had in the first place.

  64. myhawks1976 says: Aug 29, 2014 10:18 PM

    scyankee64 says:
    Aug 29, 2014 8:30 PM
    As deep as the Rams are, they don’t need him. He’s simply not very good. If he makes the team it’s probably a quid pro quo with the commissioner’s office, or it’s just a PC PR move.

    12 1

    ————————————————-

    Yes, that’s it…. A general manager and coach who could be fired and don’t know when / if they will ever get another job are going to keep players they don’t see as helping them win just for PR. Yep, that’s GOT to be it.

    PS: there was another guy on the grassy knoll wasn’t there?

  65. TheNaturalMevs says: Aug 29, 2014 11:39 PM

    I can’t wait for 2 years from now when he’s out of the league. I’m so tired of hearing about this ‘guy’

  66. mnvikingsfan says: Aug 29, 2014 11:49 PM

    scyankee64 says: Aug 29, 2014 8:30 PM

    As deep as the Rams are, they don’t need him. He’s simply not very good. If he makes the team it’s probably a quid pro quo with the commissioner’s office, or it’s just a PC PR move.

    You are talking about a player that was widely considered a 3rd or 4th round draft pick until he “came out of the closet”.

    If he is cut, no way will he clear wavers. Many teams would be more than happy to sign him as a backup and take the time to develop him into being a starter!

  67. spohawk says: Aug 30, 2014 12:32 AM

    Yawn….boring…who cares about a d lineman at the bottom of the roster of a team with a loaded roster of dlineman? If he is cut, we’ll see if he gets picked up by someone just like the other 1700 players that will be cut. He is not that special in the NFL really….

  68. dcrams20 says: Aug 30, 2014 12:35 AM

    chrisk61 says: Aug 29, 2014 6:59 PM

    the wrong sam is being called a bubble player. if st louis made better resource allocation decisions, they would cut ties, or better, HAVE CUT TIES as in past tense, with another sam, SAM I DON’T HAVE AN ARM AND NOW I DON’T HAVE A KNEE BRADFORD.

    allowing bradford to remain the starter into this year was an egregious gaffe by st louis management. much worse that what cleve did relative to josh gordon.
    _______________________________

    Wow… just wow. No one can dispute the bad luck that Bradford’s had… but I don’t recall Sam ever having a DUI or having failed multiple drug tests… or getting suspended from his college team… Very ignorant comparison.

  69. jbelkin says: Aug 30, 2014 3:35 AM

    In the NFL, if you’re not in the “norm,” you are noted – whether you go to Harvard, are “weird” height like drew Brees at slightly under 6 feet or Tom brady being drafted in the 6th round – after 45,000 yards and a bunch of SB’s, they NEVER forget to bring that up so just because they keep bringing it up is acually the norm for the NFL who wants everyone to fall into one body type and height for a position. How long as the NFL been around? They finally have actually decided that wife/girlfriend beating is a serious offense so the NFl is old, old, old school … just look at Tony Dungy … he’ll give a dog abuser or a druggy get a second or third chance and not a distraction but draft a gay guy – nope, too much work.

  70. bizu69 says: Aug 30, 2014 4:31 AM

    kids kids kids kids!!! why are you all so afraid of the word “GAY”… relax… stop fighting it… Michael Sam IS A GAY FOOTBALL PLAYER… fact is…While he is considered “just a football player” he is IN FACT THE FIRST “OPENLY” GAY FOOTBALL IN HISTORY AND that is why it is such a big deal! SO… DEAL WITH IT!!!! he’s GAY.. and we are SOOOOO PROUD AND HONORED TO know he’s repping us!! BOOM!!! that just happened :)

  71. coffeeblack95616 says: Aug 30, 2014 4:38 AM

    You guys realize you signed off with the line that Sam might “make history”. In short, all someone has to so is be an NFL football player who makes a team–which is nothing historic–and then declare their gayness and then…HISTORY! We sure have cheapened that word of late.

  72. sumkat says: Aug 30, 2014 4:41 AM

    broncobub says:
    Aug 29, 2014 7:19 PM
    Whether he’s cut by the Rams or not, Michael Sam WILL get a spot on an NFL roster. Why?

    Because whether the bigots care to acknowledge it or not… he’s earned his shot.

    #TeamSam

    ____________

    He’s already had “his shot”, he was drafted, and given more attention than any 7th round pick I can remember. The question is did he earn a SPOT

    I dont think he did, he wasn’t terrible, but they’d have to carry 10 DL to not cut someone clearly better than him. They will probably invite him to the practice squad, but it is HIGHLY unlikely any other team will. Teams usually like to keep their own guys, since they are familiar with them, and the players the system. Guys usually don’t get poached from one team, just to sit on the other teams practice squad

    The question becomes, has Sam played well enough for that to happen, considering the circus that comes with him? The circus is not his fault, it’s the fault of his “supporters” that dont’ really care about him at all, but care about how they can use him as a symbol.

    As a football player, he’s not at NFL level. He’s slow, doesn’t read the play well (which is made worse by the fact that he is slow), and has only average power (which is lethal when you are slow). If he does get invited back to the Rams practice squad, or catches on somewhere else (another team, or another league), he could get himself to the point where he could be a serviceable backup, and special teams guy. But he is NOT at that point today, he’s just not at the level of the other guys in the league.

    If he does make the team, IMO, it’s BECAUSE he is gay, and the Rams don’t want to deal with a backlash. I don’t see how you could objectively look at the rams DL, and not come to that same clear conclusion. That isn’t “equality”, it’s exactly the opposite, it’s exactly what his “supporters” are supposed to be against

    Me, I’m just a football fan, and if I’m a football coach, I want the best 53 guys on my roster. Not the best 52, and a guy I really like

  73. coffeeblack95616 says: Aug 30, 2014 4:46 AM

    As people seem to claim Sam is better than he is, I’m guessing those same people will claim bigotry when the Rams do what all teams do when a player isn’t good enough to make the roster. And those simpletons who claim bigotry are intolerant, self-righteous hypocrites who refuse to consider an opinion other than their own.

  74. sumkat says: Aug 30, 2014 4:48 AM

    briang123 says:
    Aug 29, 2014 7:58 PM
    If he gets cuts it will be because of bigotry and nothing more. Players who had the pre-season he had always make the team, and he would be the first i ever saw to get cut despite great pre-season play. If he is released, the NFL should investigate and suspended the GM and Coach at least as long as the NFL suspended that Minnesota coach who hated gays.

    __________________

    See Henry Josey. He had a MUCH better pre-season than Sam had, and was one of the first guys the Eagles cut. It happens all the time. Teams are deep with proven players are certain positions, so they let young FA or late picks walk.

    Sam was OK at best in the pre-season. People like you acting like he played as if he was Reggie White reincarnated, when he’s clearly been over matched playing against 2nd teamers, and just ok against 3 teamers, are why actual football fans are to the point where they just roll their eyes when his name is brought up.

  75. politicallyincorrect says: Aug 30, 2014 8:37 AM

    the choice seems to be Sam vs Westbrooks… and they seem to think Westbrooks is the better player (he can also rush inside while Sam is more of a outside only guy)

    let’s hope they keep the best football player

  76. willjasper says: Aug 30, 2014 8:42 AM

    Can Sam play special teams? If he can’t, then there is simply no way he can make this team that is stacked with great defensive linemen. It simply doesn’t matter how well he’s played against second and third string offensive linemen. Your fifth or sixth defensive end simply isn’t going to see much playing time unless your team is decimated by injuries.

    Jeff Fisher doesn’t care if Sam is gay or not. Sam is likely not the first gay player to be on a team led by Fisher. The only thing that matters is, is there something that Sam can do to help the Rams win games.

    Now, if he gets cut, he would be a definite option for a team that needed defensive linemen.

  77. nflpoker says: Aug 30, 2014 8:58 AM

    The media won’t be happy until Sam is a HOFer or a member of a SB winning team.

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