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Giants’ Walter Thurmond: Calvin Johnson has weaknesses


As he prepares to face the Lions and Calvin Johnson on Monday night, Giants cornerback Walter Thurmond is not intimidated.

“Everyone knows he’s a talented guy, you know, but being a big receiver, he has some weaknesses for sure,” Thurmond told Conor Orr of the Star-Ledger.

Megatron may be the most perfectly physical specimen ever to play the wide receiver position, and the 5,137 receiving yards he has in the last three years are the most any player has ever recorded in any three-year stretch in NFL history. So what are those weaknesses Thurmond speaks of?

“It takes him longer to get out of stuff where the ball is coming in and we can get out and beat him to the route, we’ve won that play,” Thurmond said. “Whether it be a knockdown or interception, that is one of the benefits of being someone smaller than he is. There’s always benefits to being able to get out of a break quicker than your man.”

Talking trash to Johnson hasn’t worked out well for teams in the past. Most notably, Johnson has burned the Cowboys the last two times he played them: In 2011, Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said his defense practiced against better receivers than Johnson every week, and Johnson responded by scoring two fourth-quarter touchdowns to lead the Lions to a comeback win. And in 2013, Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant said he’s as good as Johnson, and Johnson responded by catching 14 passes for 329 yards in a Lions win.

But Thurmond said he respects Johnson. Just not enough to think Johnson is better than he is.

“You give respect, but you’re not getting caught up in ‘Oh Calvin Johnson, this or that.’ Then you start thinking ‘this guy is better than me,'” Thurmond said.

Johnson and Thurmond can see for themselves who’s better on Monday night.

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83 Responses to “Giants’ Walter Thurmond: Calvin Johnson has weaknesses”
  1. carboni209 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:04 PM

    Who doesn’t?

  2. jeffnfl says: Sep 3, 2014 6:05 PM

    And this is why Seattle didn’t mind letting him walk on over to the NY Giants….

  3. theaints says: Sep 3, 2014 6:06 PM

    Not nearly as many as The Aints

  4. thesmartest1 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:07 PM

    Thurmond is not very smart.

  5. daytonaken says: Sep 3, 2014 6:07 PM

    Superman had kryptonite.

  6. 703JuiceAtomic says: Sep 3, 2014 6:11 PM

    His weakness is definitely not Walter Thurmond. Prepare to be dominated young fella. #Megatron

  7. deadeye says: Sep 3, 2014 6:11 PM

    He’s right. It is a substantial weakness that Megatron is unable to go over 200 yards receiving in consecutive weeks.

  8. lemonhead7 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:12 PM

    well start to believe it. He IS better than you. Talking like this will only make him prove it right to your face.

  9. akboot says: Sep 3, 2014 6:14 PM

    His weakness? Only thing I can think of that would be a weakness, is the Qb. not being able to get him the ball. I’m guessing he didn’t have an intelligent answer to the question, so this nonsense kinda fell out of his mouth.

  10. tooz72 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:14 PM

    13 catches 230 yards 3 tds

  11. allidoiswin55 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:15 PM

    It’s true but his abilities outweigh those weaknesses. Thurmond has had some success against Megaton before with Seattle so it’s understandable his confidence . But the giants secondary isn’t as good as Seattles not even in their best day so this might have been extremely unwise !

  12. 2dmo4 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:15 PM

    Oh, Walter.

  13. poorcalvinisstuckonthecrappylions says: Sep 3, 2014 6:15 PM

    Yep, it’s being stuck on that terrible team called the Detroit Lions!

  14. uncletuna says: Sep 3, 2014 6:15 PM

    Only weakness Megatron has is getting a quarterback to get him the ball…

  15. hyzers says: Sep 3, 2014 6:15 PM

    The trash talking has begun. Calvin may have weaknesses, but his humbleness, size and athleticism aren’t any of them.

    Last year the Lions #2 receiver, Durham, didn’t even make the squad this year. Focusing all their attention on Megatron isn’t going to solve any problems this year.

  16. bigbluepa83 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:16 PM

    I like it… this D is gona b a top 5 D in the league this year

  17. omnipresentfan says: Sep 3, 2014 6:16 PM

    I’ll tell you who have weaknesses, the Redskins at the QB position.

    Damn you RGIII!!

  18. nyyjetsknicks says: Sep 3, 2014 6:17 PM

    The Giants shouldn’t be talking about any other team after their preseason.

  19. seasterisks says: Sep 3, 2014 6:17 PM

    “And his weakness is, he has no answer to my PEDs, something PED Carroll taught us to take while I was in Seattle.”

    – Walter Thurman

  20. jacobmcbride1 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:17 PM

    His weaknesses? Doesn’t comeback routes because he doesn’t need to, not the best blocking receiver in the game but right up there, middle of the pack in drop rate due to the difficulty of his catches, that about it, bigger, faster, stronger, and smarter than basically every receiver in the league, plus he is a good route runner and nobody even comes remotely close to him when it comes to making contested catches, I’m sure Walter Thurmond has a ton of weaknesses, Ryan Broyles, the leading receiver in NCAA history will tear him up in the slot

  21. newdayintampabay says: Sep 3, 2014 6:17 PM

    Ask Dez Bryant what he thinks

  22. zack2482 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:18 PM

    Giants are going to get torched in Detroit. I can’t wait to see Eli’s dumb face as he throws multiple picks.

  23. ampats says: Sep 3, 2014 6:19 PM

    Giants fans, this does not sound like a smart comment from a Tom Coughlin player. The NFCE is the NFC least

    If Tom Brady plays likes Eli the Jimmy Garopollo era begins

  24. nopepper123 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:20 PM

    Of all players to go after, that’s the guy?

  25. thestrategyexpert says: Sep 3, 2014 6:20 PM

    Everybody and everything has a weakness given enough drive and clarity from the opponent to find it.

  26. phillycheez says: Sep 3, 2014 6:21 PM

    Calvin is going to beat him like a drum. Early and often.
    Don’t poke the bear, Thurmond. Don’t poke the bear.

  27. yate3097 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:21 PM

    Megatron had offseason surgery on his knee and finger, so I don’t know what to expect in the first few games. But, if he is recovered, look out Thurmond!

  28. Marshawn Lunch says: Sep 3, 2014 6:23 PM

    This season is critical to Thurmond’s career. If he doesn’t become the next big name at cornerback this year then he’ll miss out on the big money. I hope he does well in NY.

  29. kd75 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:24 PM

    Thurmond won’t be on Megatron. That will be Cromartie. Thurmond works out of the slot.

  30. buttpioneer says: Sep 3, 2014 6:25 PM

    His weakness is Optimus Prime and the Autobots.

  31. isphet71 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:26 PM

    14 catches for 329 yards… lol.

    His only weakness is that the field ends at the end zone. Prepare to get burned; he only LOOKS slower on video because he takes 2 strides to your 3…

  32. thetruthcampaign says: Sep 3, 2014 6:26 PM

    VERY few people don’t get burned after talking to Megatron like that.

  33. iamdinguskhan says: Sep 3, 2014 6:26 PM

    This has to be a joke! A mediocre at best corner talking trash about Megatron right before he plays him.LOL!!!
    Dude must have a death wish

  34. bullcharger says: Sep 3, 2014 6:27 PM

    Saying that has no upside.. It cannot help Thurmond. Why say it?

  35. steelfan1 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:29 PM

    Keep talking man, Johnson is on my fantasy team. lol

  36. kwjsb says: Sep 3, 2014 6:29 PM

    Why do they do this?

    Remember when Gerald Wilkins said he was brought in to be the “Jordan” stopped?
    Michael dropped 51 on him the next game…

  37. hawkfan72 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:32 PM

    The best thing about Thurmond going to New York is that, as a Seahawks fan, I don’t have to do a facepalm every time he opens his mouth anymore.

  38. catfanatic1979v1 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:34 PM

    He is a big body that you can not touch according to the new rules.

  39. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:35 PM

    This isn’t trash talk, and he’s merely speaking facts. Operating in short spaces benefits the smaller and quicker guy, if — and the keyword is IF — you can make the read and jump the route before he can get out of his break.

    That’s really the only weakness of a guy that height and with Calvin’s collective ability in general. It’s not a knock, it’s facts.

    Of course knowing that and doing it for 60 minutes (and Walt did draw him on a few routes when Seattle faced them last, and did this a couple of times when Calvin was in the slot) is another story. I am not all that worried about him beating us. Our defense is fine, especially in coverage. I’m worried about our offense being able to do anything at all consistently throughout the game.

  40. skawh says: Sep 3, 2014 6:37 PM

    anyone who recalls #28 at the SB who Denver completed most of their passes on…yes, this is the same guy….which is why the Hawks moved him OUT.

  41. mkbane says: Sep 3, 2014 6:38 PM

    Obviously he does, the dude can’t stop a bullet to save his life.

  42. kgun80 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:42 PM

    Thanks Walter.. Megatron and my fantasy team both appreciate your bulletin board material.

  43. John X says: Sep 3, 2014 6:43 PM

    Said the Slot corner who doesn’t have to cover him.

  44. rl79111 says: Sep 3, 2014 6:45 PM

    hyzers says:
    Sep 3, 2014 6:15 PM
    The trash talking has begun. Calvin may have weaknesses, but his humbleness, size and athleticism aren’t any of them.

    Last year the Lions #2 receiver, Durham, didn’t even make the squad this year. Focusing all their attention on Megatron isn’t going to solve any problems this year.


    Lion’s are the worst team in the NFCN, everyone knows it, even Calvin knows it……LOL at Lion’s Fans!!!!

  45. cannonballdookie says: Sep 3, 2014 6:55 PM

    His weakness is stafford throwing to the other team.

  46. ripwarrior says: Sep 3, 2014 6:55 PM

    Matt Elam called out megatron last year before they played the lions. Megatron actually had a bad game and was dropping passes.

  47. dannymac17 says: Sep 3, 2014 7:04 PM

    And Walter Thurmond is not one of them. I can guarantee that.

  48. gfan8611 says: Sep 3, 2014 7:08 PM

    Last time a Giants DB talked about an opposing WR, AJ Green ate their lunch. Shut up Thurmond, you’re not even going to be covering him.

  49. sdchicken says: Sep 3, 2014 7:09 PM

    When he jumps his highest his hands only get up to 12 feet, 6 feet higher than Thurmond. Everyone knows you better get to 13 feet

  50. justintuckrule says: Sep 3, 2014 7:15 PM

    Relax haters. We DID stop him last year in December in their house when their playoff lives were on the line. His stats:

    3 recepts. 43 yds.

    Kiss it.

  51. gofor2with3pointlead says: Sep 3, 2014 7:20 PM

    If you’re going to tug on Superman’s cape, I guess that’s your business. Just don’t be surprised when he wants a happy ending.

  52. thetruthcampaign says: Sep 3, 2014 7:26 PM

    Yeah, his weakness was Stafford at the end of last season. We’ll see if that’s still a weakness or not.

  53. Remixed says: Sep 3, 2014 7:31 PM

    Optimus Prime?

  54. brefstink says: Sep 3, 2014 7:40 PM

    Megatron’s only weakness is the referees! He’s so freaky that they had to change the rules on receiving.

    Good luck Thurman…

  55. orcahawk says: Sep 3, 2014 7:40 PM

    Walter is a pretty good slot corner. I think the Giants are ready for that.

    What they are not ready for is his sense of style. Be warned NY : You will see some eye-watering ensembles.

  56. lionsnati0n says: Sep 3, 2014 7:42 PM

    I remember this. Every week the CB on Megatron said they were some kind of transformer. It’s cute, till they get Megatron’ed

  57. bert1913 says: Sep 3, 2014 8:16 PM

    since walter’s drug suspension, he shouldn’t be talking about anybody’s weaknesses.

  58. pkrlvr says: Sep 3, 2014 8:20 PM

    I remember when he laid that 300 yards on Dallas last year. Bryant had a hissy fit on the sidelines and exploded at his team mates. Mental midget couldn’t hold Johnson’s jock….

  59. sparty0n says: Sep 3, 2014 8:45 PM

    Megatron’s biggest weakness is the 10 other players on offense he has to play with.

  60. steelers4385 says: Sep 3, 2014 9:01 PM

    Hes unstoppable. If he has a bad game its bc of Stafford, or himself. Not bc of any corner shutting him down.

  61. pittsteelers101 says: Sep 3, 2014 9:04 PM

    Again giants fans living in the past! That game was last year! New season! It’s so funny how Walt Thurmond and DRC both got toasted in the Super Bowl last year! Good luck future hall of famers!Lol

  62. bmd2099 says: Sep 3, 2014 9:14 PM

    He does have some weaknesses, he was held to 40 some yards vs the hawks a couple years ago, Thurmond should realize he doesn’t have the same corners on the outside nor the safeties.

  63. jacobmcbride1 says: Sep 3, 2014 9:19 PM

    If you think stopping a hobbled Calvin Johnson who needed knee and finger surgery who played less than 50% of the plays in the game is the same as a healthy Calvin Johnson who is the most talented receiver in league history you are in for a rude awakening

  64. cruiseon says: Sep 3, 2014 9:57 PM

    So Thurmond says, “Everyone knows he’s a talented guy, you know, but being a big receiver, he has some weaknesses for sure”. “It takes him longer to get out of stuff where the ball is coming in and we can get out and beat him to the route, we’ve won that play,” “Whether it be a knockdown or interception, that is one of the benefits of being someone smaller than he is. There’s always benefits to being able to get out of a break quicker than your man.”

    So how is this trash talking? Thurmond simply stated well-known facts. Writers get their kicks by making a mound out of a mole-hill and fans get their kicks by bashing someone from another team. What’s new?

  65. ahs2 says: Sep 3, 2014 10:09 PM

    Sure, chocolate & burning loud mouth trash talkers!

  66. tennesseeoilers says: Sep 3, 2014 10:12 PM

    Yes, yes he does … Johnson has the same weaknesses Jerry Rice had.

  67. pats3rings says: Sep 3, 2014 10:18 PM

    Who is Walter Thurmond?

  68. deacon85 says: Sep 3, 2014 10:30 PM

    True, every player has weaknesses, which is why you pick a position where you can take advantage of your strengths. And when it comes to Calvin Johnson, the role of a wide receiver and his physical capabilities mesh so well so that he is at times unstoppable. Walter Thurmond, on the other hand, is an adequate defensive back with ordinary skills. Sounds like a mismatch to me. Trash talk while you can, Walter, because I think you may spend Monday night looking at the back of Megatron’s jersey.

  69. calvinthegreat81 says: Sep 3, 2014 10:50 PM

    Can’t wait to be at this game! 200+ and 2 TD’s no doubt!!!

  70. doe22us says: Sep 3, 2014 11:20 PM

    Walter who?? yes scrubs who havent made an impact whatsoever in the NFL shouldnt be given a podium to express their ignorance.

  71. mazenblue says: Sep 3, 2014 11:25 PM

    How does small spaces benefit the little guy??? Remember the Cowboys game when Rex Ryans D had three on him in the endone corner. In small spaces the big guy jumps higher little buddy

  72. gianthater says: Sep 4, 2014 12:50 AM

    Johnson has weaknesses and the giants have a Swiss cheese defense. If I was a giant fan, is b more concerned about how the giant offensive line is gonna keep manning from being bent into a pretzel. Come giants, come into the Lions den where the hungry lions want a taste of fresh giant meat. Oh, and after the lions have a big night, the seeds of doubt will creep in on the giants after one game. Yep, up next, the Cards. LOL

  73. omeimontis says: Sep 4, 2014 1:09 AM

    The Seahawks will miss Walter Thurmond, but not sure whether the Giants can be helped by him all that much.

  74. ceehawkfan says: Sep 4, 2014 3:12 AM

    Seahawk fan here…shut up Thurmond everyone has weaknesses. But Walter, he doesn’t have much…look what he’s done in the league thus far and you make it sound like he’s easy stop..”C’MON MAN!” That’s why we let you go, we got better depth w/o you.

  75. ceehawkfan says: Sep 4, 2014 3:13 AM

    Thurmond’s WEAKNESS is he can’t stay healthy!

  76. surigaostraits says: Sep 4, 2014 3:26 AM

    I watched Walter Thurmond play in the last super bowl , he has some serious weaknesses

  77. dirtydrynn27 says: Sep 4, 2014 6:53 AM

    What will he say when Megatron torches him!!!

  78. staffordsyear says: Sep 4, 2014 6:57 AM

    Perfect! Lions 1-0.

  79. baddegg says: Sep 4, 2014 7:11 AM

    um, yeah.

  80. lionswinsuperbowl says: Sep 4, 2014 12:51 PM

    I love how corners have this complex about them that they have to talk trash. CJ just goes about his business. He will go for 100+yds and a TD.

  81. bigbluepa83 says: Sep 4, 2014 1:46 PM

    Steelers fan says giants fans living in the past lmao

  82. bigbluepa83 says: Sep 4, 2014 1:50 PM

    WT wont b covering him all nyt any way. Prince n DRC will b, theyll keep him out the paydirt n under 60yrds

  83. gobs56 says: Sep 4, 2014 6:50 PM

    Poor DRC..

    That being said Giants lose this game it’ll be from an inept offense not their secondary.

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