Will Percy Harvin be any different with the Jets?

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The Vikings unloaded receiver Percy Harvin onto the Seahawks, despite a thoroughly documented history of misbehavior.  In Seattle, Harvin behaved consistently with his prior actions.

So why do the Jets think Harvin will be any different?

Every coach believes he’s the guy to get the best out of a player with a history of being a bad guy.  Pete Carroll thought he’d get through to Harvin in Seattle.  Rex Ryan surely believes he’ll find a way to connect with Harvin in New York.  And maybe Rex will; if he does, however, it’ll be a surprise.

Aiding Ryan’s cause will be the presence of Mike Vick, who has become a respected elder statesman for young players who grew up idolizing him.  Harvin and Vick are both represented by Joe Segal, who is based in New York.  With Segal serving as the conduit, Vick could be the right guy to get Harvin to do the things he’s supposed to do — and to not do the things he has done in Seattle, Minnesota, and Gainesville.

Again, it won’t be easy.  At Florida, Harvin allegedly stopped during a 2007 conditioning run and, when pressed to continue, said, “This [expletive] ends now.”  The next day, he opted for playing basketball over the prescribed football training.

Harvin also reportedly once grabbed receivers coach Billy Gonzales by the neck and threw him to the ground.  Harvin reportedly was never disciplined.

At Minnesota, Harvin clashed with former coach Brad Childress.  The disputes included a heated argument that arose when Childress suggested Harvin was embellishing an ankle injury to avoid practicing.  Harvin and Childress nearly came to blows; their toxic relationship reportedly contributed to the decision to dump Randy Moss after a three-week reunion, because the Vikings feared Moss was influencing Harvin in a negative way.

Another “heated exchange” happened in 2012 with former Vikings coach Leslie Frazier, an ordinarily calm presence who spent a lot of time when Childress was the coach keeping Harvin from making good on threats to not show up for games.  It’s not easy to get Frazier upset.  Harvin found a way.

In Seattle, it was just as bad.  Said one source regarding the situation, “Believe everything you hear about Harvin and the Seahawks.”  The reported fracas with former Seahawks receiver Golden Tate happened, we’re told, the night before Super Bowl XLVIII.  The source said Harvin body slammed Tate at the team hotel, and that players initially feared Harvin broke Tate’s neck.

While there’s a theory making the rounds that the Seahawks feared Harvin would launch a mutiny against quarterback Russell Wilson, there’s a separate theory that Harvin was in danger of being on the wrong end of a Code Red from teammates who had enough of his angry, moody, erratic ways.

Whatever the specific details, it had to be very, very bad for the Seahawks to cut the cord.  There are plenty of temperamental, antisocial players in the NFL.  Few get abruptly shipped out of town for a third-day draft pick with more than $19 million earned for only eight games and a first-round, third-round, and seventh-round pick squandered.

As one source told PFT, the Seahawks would have cut Harvin but for the fact that the balance of his $11 million base salary is fully guaranteed.  There are no guarantees for Harvin beyond 2014, and the initial thinking in league circles is that the Jets won’t keep him around at $10 million for 2015 — especially if there’s a new head coach who is willing to admit that not even Vince Lombardi could have gotten through to Harvin on a consistent basis.

106 responses to “Will Percy Harvin be any different with the Jets?

  1. Very simple frankly.

    The league has a history of very talented malcontents who finally grew up and became a team player – Randy Moss being one.

    Hawks thought they could help add Harvin to this list and took a chance.

    It didn’t work and rather than letting pride get in the way, they cut the cord.

    Smart move.

    Hawks again show why they’re a step ahead of the league.

  2. Amazing any team would pay anything for him. It’s almost like a team should have agreed to take harvin if hawks paid THEM a 7th to take the salary on—something u see in the nba (read: sixers). Has that ever happened in the nfl?

  3. Bet he gets frustrated with the play calling, opts to sit out. Faking another injury. Complete bum

  4. Wow. Desean is coming off looking like a puppy compared to Percy. And at least T.O. and Randy never body-slammed their teammates.

  5. We have all known people like Harvin at some point or another in our lives.

    People with extraordinary talent that is only equaled by their ability not to maximize it through a combination of immaturity, selfishness and a complete lack of insight.

    Quite simply, people like Harvin have no shame. If they did, they wouldn’t go through life thinking that the rules don’t apply to them.

  6. W/ Santonio Holmes gone why not take a flyer on another locker room cancer? I have a feeling Percy is going to get along great w/ Chris Johnson.

    The Jets will have to win the next 9 straight games to realistically have a chance of making the playoffs & that’s just not happening. However it is realistic that Harvin may get hurt in his first game as a Jet or whine that he’s not getting the ball enough.

  7. It’s entirely possible that Harvin may be out of the NFL within a year. His act will get very old very fast in NY, and they won’t cut him any slack in the media there. Apparently this guy is just a bad apple. It looks like Rex and Idzik will probably be gone after this season, and Harvin may end up getting dumped along with them if he pulls the same kind of stunts with the Jets. Apparently he’s got a world of physical talent but a ten cent head.

  8. Small observation: virtually no one had heard anything about this “Harvin is a bad guy” stuff until the last 48 hours, when the Seahawks leaked these stories to rationalize giving away a player on whom they recently spent a fortune.

    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

  9. GREAT MOVE !!

    The Seahawks got rid of a problem player and a BAD Guy
    Now, they just have to get ride of Marshawn Lynch, Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson !!

    Go Seahawks !!!!

  10. darkneptune73 says: Oct 18, 2014 3:58 PM

    Harvin should of went to the Patriots. Bellichick would of straightened him up real quick.
    ————————
    The Patriots don’t throw that kind of money at a player.

  11. Big time Vikings fan since childhood days of Joe Kapp and the KC SB.
    Bigger football fan.
    Raised in Minny.
    Live in Seattle for over 30 yrs. now.

    Been a lot of blather on Harvin. Some reasonably accurate, some just hurt my head.

    As a person and player Harvin is what he is. Some good. Some not so good.

    There are rotational “toxic dumping grounds” for the broken ones. Right now it appears to be Oakland, NY Jets and Washington.

    Harvin wasn’t traded. This was a cut disguised as a trade. Conditional comp. says it all.
    Johnson is happy because Harvin puts Butts in the seats.

    I watched the exact same thing happen in Minnesota that has happened in Seattle with this guy.
    Lot of talk about who the “face of the franchise is in Seattle” That would be Marshawn Lynch. Not Carroll, Schneider, Wilson and certainly not the 12th man. Seattle will go as far as Lynch can take them. When Wilson tucks the ball into Lynch’s gut on play action there are about 3 linebackers and 4 db’s that are frozen in anticipation (or confusion) as to what Wilson will do. Pull the ball and roll (because he’s a bit short for that position and is one of the most accurate passers in the league when he’s moving) or feed to Lynch and let him truck. This would be how they developed “Beast Mode” as they call it up here.
    More importantly it has been the blueprint of Seattle’s offensive success the past few years.
    Okung and Co. are struggling for a reason.

    I’m not reading or hearing much prattle on how Bevell fits into all of this. That’s key. People forget that he was the O.C. in Minny when Harvin and AP were playing together.

    Bold and brave move by Seattle’s brass.

    This how addition by subtraction works.

  12. So much for “winning curing all ills” I guess.
    A few linemen and linebackers having a fists to face meeting with him might straighten the guy out, but I wouldn’t count on it. He’s been coddled for most of his adult life.
    Likely to be residing in the Gray Bar Hotel 10 years from now.

  13. higheriqthanyou says:
    Oct 18, 2014 3:05 PM

    The league has a history of very talented malcontents who finally grew up and became a team player – Randy Moss being one.
    _________

    You must not remember his 2010 season.

  14. This guy is a major headache where ever he ends up. With his behavior/attitude this guy will be out of the league in couple years regardless how talented he is. Glad Vikes got rid of him and got great compensation.

  15. Harvin strikes you as one of those guys that will be out of the league within a couple years, squander all or most of the money’s he’s made, and be in trouble with the law in short order…

  16. Yeah they spent a “fortune.” Xavier Rhodes, who is a stiff, a backup running back and an OL who’s out of football. That’s really a “fortune” for the most explosive player in football who came through big time when he was on the field.

    SMH…

  17. green41563 says:
    Oct 18, 2014 3:58 PM
    Small observation: virtually no one had heard anything about this “Harvin is a bad guy” stuff until the last 48 hours, …….”
    ================================
    what rock have you been hiding under for the last 5-6 years?

  18. He’s been a problem at every stop in his career..can we check his Pee Wee league teammates for a comment or two?…. head case plain and simple.

  19. It’ll be interesting to see if Harvin figures out that if he doesn’t get his act together he’ll be flipping burgers in the prison cafeteria next year. He has already thrown away his big money contract (no way even the Jets are stupid enough to keep him under that salary) because of his childishness. I find it hard to believe this guy is worth the effort. He may have already ended his NFL career and if he decides to embellish some injury and ride out the year, he’ll have a rude awakening next year. The guy can really play but he’s such a prima donna he’s going to go the way of Jeff George. Nobody will want to sign him because he’s just not worth the trouble.

  20. higheriqthanyou says:
    Oct 18, 2014 3:05 PM

    The league has a history of very talented malcontents who finally grew up and became a team player – Randy Moss being one.

    You must be referring to Randy Moss the horse racing announcer

  21. I love all the “no Super Bowl” for Seattle now comments, or, Seattle handed the divison to SF with this trade, funny stuff. Remind me again how much Percy helped Seattle last season, or, in the NFCC against said Niners.

  22. it’s well known that golden tate had sex with russell wilson’s wife just before the superbowl…since this incident between harvin and tate happened at the hotel, it’s possible harvin was defending wilson…just a theory.

    percy harvin is probably one of the last guys in the league you’d ever want to fight. i remember a game against carolina when he was a viking, he got shoved to the panthers bench, and almost got into a fight with their entire sideline, and showed no fear about doing so.

  23. Was really hoping Harvin would blossom in Seattle. Marshawn had his trouble in Buffalo but was able to turn it around. I believe this is Harvin’s last chance. If the Seahawks can only get a 4-6 round pick for him, will anybody be willing to take a chance on him if the same problems pop up in NY?

  24. The last person Percy Harvin had a right to get angry with was Brad Childress. Harvin fell like a rock in the 2009 draft and it was Childress who took a chance on him.

    If Harvin has that little gratitude for a guy who made in a first round pick (and more money as a result), who won’t he stab in the back?

    Harvin won’t play for the Jets in 2014. He’ll be so angry at the quarterbacking there, he’ll just poison the locker room like he has before.

  25. This whole thing made me revisit the Baldwin F-Bomb blowup last week; and one specific quote really becomes quite revealing.

    “[Y]ou can see that the receivers, we are doing our job for the most part,” Baldwin said regarding whether the film shows that they’re getting open.

    “For the most part.” If Harvin did remove himself from the game and resist returning to it, then that interview sheds alot of light on all of this and Baldwin’s insistance that he simply said what had to be said without specifically calling out Percy as a quitter to the media.

  26. Ryan Leaf just called from prison and said, ” Yeahhhh, now Percy is my kind of football player”… and at this rate…they could be playing on the same team pretty quick…the Huntsville license plate stampers.

    Shawshank>Huntsville>Raiford>Rikers Island>Jets

  27. Will Harvin be any different with the Jets?

    Most of the evidence says absolutely not. His list of transgressions has relentlessly expanded since his days with the Gators. No change of scenery can stop it, or even slow it down.

    And to get the heave ho from defending Super Bowl Champions — and get kicked to the Siberian Outpost of the NFL. Being fed the ball by a struggling QB in a losing atmosphere covered by a pressure cooker media does not bode well. Not at all. He’s under the microscope more than ever now. If he had meltdowns in small areas like Gainesville and Minneapolis, his fuse just shrunk down to a nub.

    The only (extremely unlikely) reasons I can think of why Harvin might have a very feint chance of righting his ship, are as follows. Geno Smith made nearly all of his hay at WVU throwing short passes that resulted in long gains and/or TD passes because of YAC — and this is Harvin’s bread and butter (i.e., running after the catch or yards after catch).

    One other factor is, as unlikely as it is, Harvin may finally realize he’s nearing the end of the line. This might be the last stop.

    Personally, I think there’ll be a honeymoon phase — followed by mixed results — and then, followed by the implosion.

    Word is he likes to fight. I wouldn’t mess with Sheldon Richardson or Muhammed Wilkerson though. Those two rhinos are not to be trifled with.

  28. It’s REALLY hard to feel sorry for a guy who makes millions of dollars a year all while being difficult. I think it’s to stop caring where he ends up and why. Even with sacrificing our bodies, most of us would trade places with Harvin in order to make millions.

  29. darkneptune73 says:
    Oct 18, 2014 3:58 PM
    Harvin should of went to the Patriots. Bellichick would of straightened him up real quick.

    Because that worked out so well with Albert Haynesworth, Chad Ochocinco/Johnson, and Aaron Hernandez that there’s no way it wouldn’t have worked out for Bill.

  30. Seahawks just won a Super Bowl and have a good chance to get back to another one this year.

    That’s a team you want to get run off of?

    Tells me he won’t fit in anywhere.

  31. In seriousness, we’ll see. The Jets have the cap space, if nothing else, and if he’s a jerk they cut him after the season.

    Let’s make a big deal out of it.

  32. mediasloppy says:
    Oct 18, 2014 4:12 PM

    darkneptune73 says: Oct 18, 2014 3:58 PM

    Harvin should of went to the Patriots. Bellichick would of straightened him up real quick.
    ————————
    The Patriots don’t throw that kind of money at a player.
    ____________

    Close. The Patriots don’t throw money at that kind of a player.

  33. Watch your back Decker…or neck. Eric’s probably wondering about now if all that extra money is worth it.

  34. Sounds like a wonderful guy… of course that STILL makes him a HUGE upgrade for the Jets.

    Still let this be a lesson to malcontents like Harvin everywhere

    Pull that crap and you get sent to the Jets

  35. If the Seahawks thought Harvin might’ve broken Tate’s neck it had to have been a vicious assault.

    The team did not report the assault to the police nor did they discipline him.

    If Adrian Peterson can be put out out to pasture so can Pete Carroll and his staff.

  36. funny, – will he be any different?
    no, he will be a huge disappointment in NYJ too.
    maybe those idiots will get a sixth rd pick when they trade him to wherever Rex is D-coord next year. . . .

  37. At least the Seahawk players will be able to eat now. Without Percy around to extort their meal allowances and make them all go to the end of the line at the cafeteria.

  38. I love allday38 when he(?) continues with:

    “I love all the “no Super Bowl” for Seattle”.

    never stop running your crap rookie, we’re all counting on it . . .

  39. zeke2517 says:
    Oct 18, 2014 7:08 PM
    In seriousness, we’ll see. The Jets have the cap space, if nothing else, and if he’s a jerk they cut him after the season.

    Let’s make a big deal out of it.

    WELL…The reason the jets are 1-6, is how they have chosen to spend their cap $$$.

    Guessing they didn’t need extra CB’s playing Manning , Brady, Cutler, Rodgers etc.

    What in the name of quinton coples are they thinking???

    Then again..theres a reason it’s 45 years and counting.

  40. Actually Gordo858 it does change the fact the D couldn’t get off the field on 3rd down… If your offense can’t stay on the field long, your D will be tired.

  41. What’s a surprise is that the other players disagreed with the slamming of Tate.

    Looks like Mike Vick is setting himself up for a steady paycheck with the league post retirement. He’s got the ear of a lot of players and has spun his past (you can get less time for murder and rape than dog fighting) into an ambassadorship of positive vibes and mentoring.

    And then there’s those wacky Jets!

  42. One of the lessons from Thursday night was the Patriots ability to leave their opponent walking off the field in disbelief. Rex Ryan lost his composure, unable to believe his team lost to Patriots given the stat sheet. Rex, a player’s coach if there ever was one and the last person to ever throw one of his own players under the bus, tied Antonio Allen to the proverbial railroad tracks during his press conference. After any close Patriots victory the opposition is often left stunned and that is part of their mystique. The Patriots are inside the heads of their opponents, and that is most true of Rex Ryan.

  43. Remember all that baseless speculation about the Niners locker room, when there was actual strife as evidenced by Golden Taint’s black eye in the Seahawks locker room? Pepperidge farms remembers.

  44. Harvin doesn’t seem to get that he’s on the express train out of the NFL.
    There are talented receivers that come out of the draft every single year. They aren’t really that rare, no matter what the agents tell you.

    PITAs are no longer tolerated for very long.

    Period.

  45. He’s been a looser since the Un of Florida and obviously things haven’t changed. The state of the Jets I am surprised they want to deal with an additional problem. Interesting to see how he behaves now, he’s running out of time.

  46. “seahawkboymike says:
    Oct 18, 2014 4:55 PM
    Yeah they spent a “fortune.” Xavier Rhodes, who is a stiff, a backup running back and an OL who’s out of football. That’s really a “fortune” for the most explosive player in football who came through big time when he was on the field.”
    —————————————————
    Another chickenhawk genius. First of all, Xavier Rhodes is far from a stiff (besides that title belongs to ricky sherman) but all sarcasm aside, you don’t measure the cost of trading draft picks by what (in this case who the vikings drafted) but the cost to the trading team in who they could’ve drafted with those picks. It’s not rocket science Mike but we’ve come to expect that type of rationale from hawk fans. Just as important, is how easy it has been for the Vikings to fleece the Hawks over the years. Hutchinson, Burleson, Sid Rice, Tjoke, Harvin, should I keep going?

  47. Will Percy Harvin be any different with the Jets?

    Like.. will he slide his way into a ring this year? Well… no…

    .. Will PERCY! be any different… uh… no.

  48. We have nothing to loose,and all to gain for a forth round pick.He wants playing time he will get lots of it.If he does not work out he wont be back,his special team play is enough to trade for.This will allow Geno to have more weapons and Harvin might want to get back at the Seahawks.

  49. “seahawkboymike says:
    Oct 18, 2014 4:55 PM
    Yeah they spent a “fortune.” Xavier Rhodes, who is a stiff, a backup running back and an OL who’s out of football. That’s really a “fortune” for the most explosive player in football who came through big time when he was on the field.”
    —————————————————
    Another chickenhawk genius. First of all, Xavier Rhodes is far from a stiff (besides that title belongs to ricky sherman) but all sarcasm aside, you don’t measure the cost of trading draft picks by what (in this case who the vikings drafted) but the cost to the trading team in who they could’ve drafted with those picks. It’s not rocket science Mike but we’ve come to expect that type of rationale from hawk fans. Just as important, is how easy it has been for the Vikings to fleece the Hawks over the years. Hutchinson, Burleson, Sid Rice, Tjoke, Harvin, should I keep going?

    ————————————————————
    Yes you forgot to mention how the Hawks have missed the playoffs, not won the Super Bowl, or have had about 20 QB.s in the last 10 years and had the best player get kicked out of the leauge this year……..oh wait that’s Minn.

    3 2

  50. There’s this version Harvins version then the truth. No one really knows any of the accused things as fact. I don’t judge. Can’t judge a football player to real world monsters. Football is a game

  51. IMO, the Seahawks should be happy that Harvin elected (over their objections) to have surgery last season. If not, he would have caused alot of trouble that they might not have been able to win the NFC West. With Harvin out of the picture, the Seahawks were able to keep focus on winning the Division, then run the table during the playoffs.

  52. Percy Harvin must be a “lil Steve Smith” huh punkin his teammates out their in Seattle huh lol… We welcome you to the AFC East Mr. Harvin…. The Jets just got Dangerous…. Indeed…

  53. Before the Harvin trade, the only thing I heard from the Seahawks was how good he was. In every interview before or after the games, Harvin always spoke highly of Russell Wilson whom I’m a fan of. Because of his “always speaking highly of my boy, Russell Wilson”, I liked him a little more eventhough I always thought it was a stupid move from the Hawks to get him in the first place. I found it a little strange now that they made it sound like he was a monster after they traded him to the Jets! If he was like that when he was a Vike, why did John Schneider give up so much to get him? Just as I thought, getting Harvin was probably the stupidest mistake that John Schneider ever made.

  54. So Seattle Is a step ahead of the league for getting rid if this guy? I don’t love or hate Seatlle but come on! I’ll give them credit for making the move but to be a real step ahead of the league they would have sat Harvin during the Super Bowl, as that would have taken guts…

    harvin is nothing more thAn an average player with the ability to make an occasional play or two .

  55. There is something “wrong” with Percy Harvin, as per his personal history of migraines and the colossal “collapse” years ago while at practice with the Vikings which resulted in his hospitalization. My “layman’s guess” is that Harvin possibly suffers from Asperger Syndrome.

  56. When Reggie Jackson left the Oakland A’s and signed with the Yankees, a reporter asked him if he thought playing in New York would make him a star. Jackson responded by saying he was taking his star with him to New York.

    Our friend, Percy, left Minnesota and brought his storm clouds with him. They’re following him to New York, too.

    The Jets are his last paycheck as a football player.

  57. Occasionally someone from the Jets front office gets in front of a camera, and I stare into their eyes, and what I see is a whole lot of nothing…….

    It’s like looking into a goldfish bowl…..absolutely nothing behind the eyes….

    The players are just an extension of the front office……again, nothing behind the eyes……

  58. What I find ironic about this guy is he had all kinds of head ache issues (ya drugs) IMHO, when with the Vikes but as soon as he was traded they went away. Must have been the air in Seattle maybe.

    All I know is again. the Vikes got the better of this deal. There GM maybe the screwdest GM in the game. Trading away guys that still have some value for first and second round picks.

  59. NFL teams should stop putting up with these guys. The truth is they get enabled since high school and it goes on. After the Ray Rice and Peterson incident, hopefully we won’t see any more Aaron Hernandez type dudes. That is embarrassing.

  60. Vikings scored on that trade. You spend millions on a player, he should be on the field. Not practicing in the weight room rehab. Most of the players we got in trade are on the field. Like the trade or not. We got a deal. (Finally. lol)

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