Report: Jay Gruden wants RG3 gone

AP

Washington coach Jay Gruden thinks Robert Griffin III cares more about his personal brand than about learning to become an NFL quarterback, and as a result Gruden wants Griffin gone from the franchise.

That’s the word from Jason Reid of the Washington Post, who reports that Gruden feels strongly that the franchise must part ways with Griffin. Gruden benched Griffin for Colt McCoy not only because Gruden believes that’s the right thing for the franchise this season, but because he believes Griffin is not, and will not be, the long-term answer.

The report cites multiple unnamed sources as saying that Gruden is done with Griffin, that Gruden believes Griffin is fundamentally lacking in the kind of pocket presence an NFL quarterback needs, and that Gruden thinks Griffin makes decisions off the field that are motivated by “enhancing his brand” rather than by improving as a quarterback.

How dead-set against coaching Griffin is Gruden? So much so, according to the report, that “Gruden may have to come up with an exit strategy even faster than Mike Shanahan did” if owner Dan Snyder and General Manager Bruce Allen refuse to trade Griffin in the offseason.

In other words, Gruden may be at the point where he’s giving Snyder and Allen an ultimatum: It’s Griffin or me.

Ultimately, whether or not Griffin remains in Washington beyond this season will be Snyder’s call. It is, after all, his football team, and Snyder has never been a hands-off owner. But if Snyder isn’t willing to part with Griffin, he may have little choice but to part with his head coach. Again.

Which means the situation in Washington, which looked late last season like it couldn’t have gotten any worse, has indeed gotten worse.

108 responses to “Report: Jay Gruden wants RG3 gone

  1. When you play football at an all-star level, that branding stuff takes care of itself.

    When you do not, no one cares.

  2. 2 time super bowl winning coach wanted him gone.

    1st year head coach wants him gone.

    Both ends of the spectrum.

    Because of this no higher than 4th round pick.

    Jets or Bucs or Cincinnati are the only teams to take a chance.

  3. Once again, Mike Shanahan looks like the smartest man in the room, and not just for taking $7M of Snyder’s money for doing nothing!

  4. “NOOO!! Don’t take away my toy!!! I want it!! Its mine its mine its mine!!!!!” Daniel Snyder shrieks as he stomps around and knocks over the miniature Lego town he built in his office.

  5. Robert had one good year, Gruden has zero. Ummm, let me see. Robert may come back with health and coaching, Gruden road his brother’s coattail to a Bonanza …

    Tough call, but Gruden was a terrible OC and is not head coaching material. Still, I think I’d trade Robert and let Gruden try to explain his coming failure.

    Should be good TV, plus the team may never shake off the curse of the name.

  6. If I were the Bucs, I’d offer a 5th rounder with a future 6th or better the following year and no more. He’s worth a flyer if Tedford can re-coach him up upon Tedford’s return.

  7. If’n this is true, I really have to give kudos to Coach Gruden. I have not been crazy about his coaching, but he has a pair, win or lose this one.

  8. REDSKINSFOREVER says:
    Dec 4, 2014 6:47 PM
    Maybe Gruden should be a better coach and design the offense around RG3s talents instead of trying to make RG3 something he isn’t.

    Just a thought.

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    Or RG3 isn’t talented enough no matter what offense he runs in the pros… Baylor didn’t skip a beat and has played better without him at QB.

  9. Getting rid of Gruden may cost more than getting rid of Griffin. Gruden has a 5 year guaranteed contract.

  10. Seems pretty clear that whatever the correct choice is, Snyder will pick the other.

    Remember this same thing happening in TEN between Young and Fisher? Adams chose Young, then ultimately got rid of both. Now look at the aftermath. Young is out of the league and a joke. Fisher is doing fairly well in STL and TEN has been horrible ever since.

  11. If he is cut I am curious if the Eagles and Chip Kelly think they could make him a pro bowler again.

    As a die hard Eagles fan idk how I would feel about that if it ever came to fruition.

  12. Choose Gruden over Griffin.

    Shanahan, Gruden. Griffin is the constant. He is arrogant and thinks he is a star. Team doesn’t like him. Go with Colt.

  13. Probably didn’t help that Griffin unveiled his custom Adidas designed personal logo as a “gift” to the fans a couple of months after Gruden got hired.

  14. I don’t necessarily feel sorry for RG3 he had the world in his hands and hopefully now he understands being an nfl QB is a a privilege and also a full time job – the commercials, look at all of the success Andrew luck is having and oh by the way how many commercials have you see Andrew on.

  15. This what happens when you bet the franchise on a draft pick. 50% of the time they are a bust but the team invested so much in them, management won’t believe their lying eyes and trade or cut the guy.

  16. I’m calling it right now, Snyder chooses Robert over Jay. Snyder is too stubborn to admit he blew it with the Robert deal and for turning his back on Shanny. Jay is done in DC. Nobody survives ultimatums with Dan. If Shanny the 2x SB winner was shown the door there’s no way Jay survives with his resume.

  17. Maybe Gruden should be a better coach and design the offense around RG3s talents instead of trying to make RG3 something he isn’t.

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    I think he is trying to make him an NFL QB, but he has decided commercials are way more fun, and money.

  18. chut26 says: Dec 4, 2014 7:06 PM

    If he is cut I am curious if the Eagles and Chip Kelly think they could make him a pro bowler again.

    As a die hard Eagles fan idk how I would feel about that if it ever came to fruition.

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    NO
    Everything Chip is doing is about a TEAM. We just got rid of head case.

  19. Griffin should be gone and Gruden would follow too but a long term contract will keep him in DC. Too bad, the Skins Fans are a loyal base and will have to endure 4 more years of 6 wins or less.

  20. RGme is a victim of his own ego. While Andrew Luck’s dad told him about all of the things he needed to do to improve, RGme’s dad convinced him of how gifted, talented, and superior he was.

  21. footballisneat says: Dec 4, 2014 7:08 PM

    RG3 will stil have a better career then Luck no doubt in my mind
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    Your mind needs a overhaul.

  22. This is what happens when Bengals coaches get a hold of any kind of player with talent.

    You’ve read the script before, “a lot of potential” that ultimately…”gets nowhere”

    Chip Kelly would have turned RG3 into a beast. Look what he’s done for frickin’ Mark Sanchez…boils down to coaching. I guess this is Gruden’s first and last year as a head coach. Ha! Oh well, the Redslurs are a joke anyway. I’ll take my Ravens dysfunction any day over that circus

  23. News out of D.C. is Snyder has just fired everyone on the team along with Gruden and is keeping RG III.

  24. Let Snyder fire Jay…then Danny will be paying TWO coaches to not work. Regardless of how this episode plays out, it should be obvious to all that this kid can’t play QB at the NFL level.

    Won’t be long until Ballerina Bob is behind the counter making subs instead of hawking them.

  25. The skins will trade him to philly for a late round draft pick, thinking it will be revenge for the McNabb trade. Instead of sucking like McNabb, Griffin will win comeback player of the year, and be a perennial pro bowler. Skins fans will be sad.

  26. The Redskins have used 20 QBs since Mark Rypien left, 10 coaches since Joe Gibbs’ first stint. This is organizational dysfunction. It’s about a front office not doing their diligence when hiring a staff or scouting players in the draft or as free agents. Griffin didn’t show up and suddenly Washington became a lousy franchise. Their shoddy product was the reason he’s there in the first place. It doesn’t matter who is the coach or QB, they’ll continue to be bad until the owner gets his hands off of football ops and he hires a football GM.

  27. RG3 isn’t really a good fit for a 1980s west coast offense – then again the 80s west coast offense isn’t a good fit for the NFL in 2014.

    Jay is just as inflexible as his brother Jon was and look at the complete lack of success that Jon had on the offensive side of the ball in Tampa.

  28. Maybe Daniel Snyder can show his greatness as an owner by mending the fences between Jay and RG3. This is a great opportunity for the Chief to get out his authentic Redskin tribe peace pipe and start blowing some smoke.
    On the other hand, Jay may expect the team to trade up some future top draftpicks to move up and draft a QB next year.
    BTW – Where is GM Bruce Allen in all of this? Has he taken a side? He drafted Robert and recruited Jay.

  29. Maybe Gruden should be a better coach and design the offense around RG3s talents instead of trying to make RG3 something he isn’t.

    Just a thought.

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    Shanahan had no idea how to come up with read option option plays when RGIII was drafted so the Shanahans studied college tape all offseason and created plays for RGIII. That’s the only time he succeeded until he got injured in the playoffs.

    Then RGIII’s dad told Shanahan that he wants his son to run a lot less and pass a lot, lot, lot, lot, lot more so RGIII can have a 14-year career.

    So if RGIII can’t run anymore, and he hasn’t developed as a passer then what exactly are these strengths that you want Coach Gruden to build around?

  30. Jay Gruden setting the stage to be released so he can be his brother’s OC when Jon returns to coaching in 2015

  31. qdog112 says:
    Dec 4, 2014 6:52 PM
    Robert had one good year, Gruden has zero. Ummm, let me see. Robert may come back with health and coaching, Gruden road his brother’s coattail to a Bonanza …

    Tough call, but Gruden was a terrible OC and is not head coaching material. Still, I think I’d trade Robert and let Gruden try to explain his coming failure.
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    I get that after he won ROY, you all thought you had the next boy wonder. And I get that its really hard to swallow the knife of knowing that two years later, the guy is a complete bust. But you need to start facing reality. He’s gone. He’s not coming back “with coaching”. Its over. Move on and draft better the next time.

  32. While he is right, what has also been evident is that Gruden is not fit, at this point of his career, at least, to being a HC.

    So it might behoove the Redskibs to axe em both and just start over. Be honest and admit it didn’t work out and that they’ll try to make it better.

    They do need a HC calming influence. Like a Joe Gibbs or someone along those lines. Someone with experience both on the field and how to handle HC duties such as dealing with the media.

    On the QB position, they do need to start over. Period.

  33. The run option system was and still is a gimmick. A bunch of morons said it was the future of the NFL.

    What has happened to all these read option guys is exactly what I said would happen. The gimmick is done, these guys can’t take the beating a pro puts on them, and none of them can pass effectively, let alone run an offense that has to rely on the pass.

    The NCAA is doing the NFL no favors by not developing passers.

  34. Kudos to Gruden, about time we get coaches who have the rocks to speak the truth. It’s not like we don’t know RG3 is out for his image only.

  35. foosballisthedevil says:
    Dec 4, 2014 8:00 PM
    Jay Gruden setting the stage to be released so he can be his brother’s OC when Jon returns to coaching in 2015

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    Jon was always his own OC, in Tampa Jay was the offensive assistant – that was as high as he got on the employment chart.

    Anywho Jon isn’t coming back to the NFL, his ego is too big to share the spotlight with any star players on his team.

  36. Danny Snyder and the team, especially RGme, need someone like Bill Parcells as the GM and someone like Tom Coughlin to coach this mess.

    If Gruden stays, I know who “Hard Knocks” should be based on next year!

  37. Snyder you have allowed this disfunction for too long in DC you little worm. Time to move to Florida, guzzle down gefeltifish and leave the organization to be run by someone with a spine.

  38. I still think RG3 can be good-great in his league.

    I also think gruden will be gone this offseason if he can’t figure out how to win with Robert. If mccdaniels doesn’t end up at michigan I could see him taking over in Washington, maybe harbaugh.

    But I personally wouldn’t hire harbaugh to manage my fantasy team

  39. A bunch of people myself included told you guys he is not NFL quality along with Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel.

  40. Shanahan tried to use RG 3 years and out of the league in an offense designed around his talent. That’s what got him hurt then led to the excuses for why he wasn’t as good then next year which led to talk of how great he’d be when he was 100% which led to another sorry season which led to now. He’s a bust and nobody can be surprised about this. Many fans who didn’t listen to the BS the analysts and ESPN told us actually predicted this. Hate to see someone’s career go down the tubes but Gruden is right. Griffin is all about himself and convinced he’s one of the best and from what I’ve read or heard him say doesn’t seem to me to take coaching.

  41. He was successful his first year because he was a threat to run for 50 yards. With that threat gone due to injuries, he is exposed for an option QB with no pocket presence. Not gonna work in the NFL.

  42. If Gruden indeed gives Snyder the Me or Griffin ultimatum, then Snyder has no choice but to pick the coach. If he fires Gruden then he will have alienated every coach that wants a potential job in D.C. RG3 is still under contract for next year, let him compete and see if he can retake the starting job. If not, take your losses and part ways.

  43. You know, I’ve always thought RG3 has gotten a way worse reputation than he’s deserved, but when two straight head coaches hate your guts, something’s gotta change.

  44. torot23 says:
    Dec 4, 2014 9:02 PM
    I still think RG3 can be good-great in his league.

    I also think gruden will be gone this offseason if he can’t figure out how to win with Robert. If mccdaniels doesn’t end up at michigan I could see him taking over in Washington, maybe harbaugh.

    But I personally wouldn’t hire harbaugh to manage my fantasy team

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    No way McDaniels or Harbaugh wind up in Washington. If Gruden is fired (and that is a HUGE if, anyone in the front office with the smallest bit of common sense would try to stop it), no coach with any sort of demand for his services would go to Washington

    They fired a hall of fame coach, for a young guy, and fired the young guy 12 months later. Meanwhile, the only certainty with the team, is that it’s RG3 who is in charge, not the HC. Why would any coach want to walk into that situation.

    Assuming Gruden is fired after this year, Washington is literally the least attractive coaching job in the NFL, and it’s probably behind a decent amount of college gigs.

    If Gruden gets fired, they will hire whoever is willing to take the job. It will not be someone on anybody’s “top 5” list

  45. RG3 -the Rupaul of the NFL, sure glad my browns didn’t get that deal done when he got drafted.

  46. If Snyder fires Gruden because he doesn’t want Griffen he won’t even find a high school coach to coach this team. Wait maybe Jerry Jones will do it that’s a job he wants. Lol.

  47. I said weeks ago that Gruden might be planning an exit strategy using RG3 as the leverage. You’re welcome, Mr. Reid.

  48. RG3. Year 1 : ROY 2012. YEAR 2: Recovery from knee injury. Should not have played til week 5. Numbers not as good but above average 2013. Year 3. New coach that early on said off comments about RG3. New system. RG3 injured. Misses 5 weeks. Comes back very rusty. Has good game in Minnesota. Two bad games at San Francisco and Tampa. Now Media Going Ballistic With Trade Talk? ?? Gruden bitches everyday how doesn’t like RG3. RG3 says nothing in response. Who is showing more maturity? Only person leaving the Redskins is Jay” me, me, me” Gruden! !!#HTTR

  49. seems like a cop out to me…shannahan destroyed rg3 with his dumb ass decision to play him even when he was hurt then bailed …..now this loser has a bad season and wants to blame rg3…be a damn coach and lead your team…teach the qb what you need…stop crying and man up…you suck as a coach

  50. The run option system was and still is a gimmick. A bunch of morons said it was the future of the NFL.

    What has happened to all these read option guys is exactly what I said would happen. The gimmick is done, these guys can’t take the beating a pro puts on them, and none of them can pass effectively, let alone run an offense that has to rely on the pass.
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    Have you watched Seattle lately? It’s still working for them. It’s all about having a QB who can really read the DE, and understands when to hand it off.

    Russell Wilson is athletic AND smart, and as a result is a top-15 rusher in the league right now.

  51. rg3 is working on a “Where are they now special”…Guy is an ultimate bust !!! Danny stay out of football operations…you know nothing about sports never played a down of anything in your life…joke of an organization and ive been a fan for over 20 years…Hang out with Bob Kraft see how that works for ya

  52. Someone is going to pick up RG3 for what amounts to pennies on the dollar, (third round pick at most) and may well end up with a huge bargain. I’m a Vikings guy who loves Bridgewater, so we’re set. Looking around the league, though, if I’m Dallas, I would pick him up and let him play behind Romo for a bit – it’s a much less risky option than the first rounder Jerry was going to spend on Manziel. Buffalo might also want to take a chance on him.

  53. The previous coach supposedly wanted him gone, would this be the same coach that ran him into the ground by playing him when he knew he was injured and rushed him back too soon because they wanted to win? The current coach whose claim to fame is playing in the arena football league and coaching in the arena football league, oh yea, being the little brother of a more famous former coach. Let’s see the appeal of having little Jay Gruden in Washington without having RGIII to kick around and blame for his teams sucking. Last time I checked the QB doesn’t play defense, but I’m sure the media campaign to trash RGIII will spin that into Griffins fault also.

  54. Well if he wants him gone then COACH get rid of him, smh with all this media stuff. Do your job and fire him or trade him, should have done that before the trade deadline if he felt so strongly about it.

  55. IF Snyder decides to keep Griffin, then what?

    So conventional wisdom says he’ll fire Gruden, but what’s the next step?
    Let’s say you’re Harbaugh. There’s a reason he won’t be back in SF, and he’ll be wanting to repair his reputation. Does he sign on knowing that Griffin is his QB? Do that for every potential replacement for Gruden.

  56. I would much rather see Jay Gruden GONE! This guy has no idea of what it means to be an NFL head coach, zero! You give up on Griffin after a few games, for real?

  57. babyjunkie says:
    Dec 4, 2014 7:05 PM
    Goodell will need to see the video first.

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    Wait a minute, Goodell will swear there “Is No Video !!”
    Story at eleven…………..

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