Video shows employee taking 24 balls into bathroom

On Monday, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports added the next new big piece of news in #DeflateGate, reporting that the NFL has interviewed a locker room attendant who allegedly took footballs from the officials’ locker room after they had been inspected and approved “to another area on way to field” before the start of the game.

PFT can now contribute additional details to that story.

First, per a league source, the other “area on way to field” is a bathroom.  The bathroom consists of one toilet and one sink and a door that locks from the inside.

Second, according to the same source, the person carried two bags of balls into the bathroom:  the 12 balls to be used by the Patriots and the 12 balls to be used by the Colts.

Third, from the same source, the evidence comes from a surveillance video that was discovered by the Patriots and given to the NFL early in the investigation.

Fourth, again from the same source, the video shows the employee in the bathroom for approximately 90 seconds.

Could the employee have fished 12 balls out of a fairly large bag, deflated each of them by two pounds, put them back into the bag, and exited the bathroom in roughly 90 seconds?  That question will surely become the centerpiece of the next red state/blue state debate between folks who have determined that the Patriots have done something wrong and those who are staunchly defending the franchise.

And, yes, the photo accompanying this story was taken inside one of the bathrooms at Gillette Stadium.  When NBC broadcast the Ravens-Patriots playoff game from Foxboro on January 10, Florio Jr. demanded pictures from the venue.  Since he didn’t specify where he wanted them from, I took one inside the bathroom and texted it to him.

He didn’t think it was funny.

564 responses to “Video shows employee taking 24 balls into bathroom

  1. 90 seconds? Maybe to deflate one or two balls, tops, but more than likely just enough time to take a leak… from a human bladder, not a pigskin.

  2. I’m looking forward to seeing the Zapruder film of this bathroom footage. If the culprit has a pair of Uggs on, we’ll know the fix is in.

  3. What a waste of time this whole thing is. This guy went for a quick piss and didn’t want the balls messed with. The NFL, The Colts, The Ravens and all the other miserable people look like fools.

  4. 90 seconds? Aside from probably not washing his hands, I’ll wager he took a tinkle real quick or checked his hair before making his public appearance.

  5. It just seems to me like the Patriots are going to keep lying again and again until the truth comes out. It’s not going to be a very good look for them when the truth does come out.

  6. He had to take a leak and couldn’t risk leaving them outside the door. Some on could have tampered with them -_-

  7. To add to my post, if the kid is in the bathroom for 5-10 minutes, sure he could have been taking a dump, but it sure would look like football tampering. 90 seconds? To get each ball exactly the 2# difference? Nope.

  8. Does human urine on footballs cause them to deflate faster? That’s the next twist this is taking…or maybe that the acids in urine soften the leather to Tom’s specifications….?

  9. I understand that The Patriot Way is about being smarter, more creative, and more efficient than the competition, but 90 seconds seems like a pretty short time to get the job done. 12 balls? So that’s 7.5 seconds per ball.

    Heck, maybe they are so smart they know just how long they have to inject the needle to get it down by two pounds or so.

    If one was trying to design some kind of quick move to deflate the balls, this would definitely be one of the scenarios.

    On the other hand, maybe he was just doing his business for those 90 seconds…I’m sure we’ll have some deflate timings going on over at Carnegie Mellon…

  10. This is bad news for Pats. No way he did this on his own accord. This is exactly how Belechek and/or Brady are caught.

    Anyone care to tell how Pats fans would react if the football David Tyree caught in the Super Bowl was later found to be deflated? Winning isn’t as much fun when you cheat.

  11. 90 seconds in a bathroom? and PFT is making this sound like a smoking gun? You guys and the NFL should be sued for everything you own by Kraft for flaming the embers in this ridiculous story. I challenge anyone alive to take 12 balls and deflate them in 90 seconds and get them all at the same psi. Furthermore, if someone has to go the bathroom that is responsible for the balls, is he supposed to leave them outside?

  12. Definitely no number 2. Probably not even number 1. He probably had to pass gas or pick his nose or something. Not nearly enough time for any funny business with the footballs. Not relevant, strike this from the record.

  13. So that is it, right? Not going to be a smoking gun unless the kid admits to wrongdoing. Going to be a pretty unsatisfying result for both sides since this doesn’t totally implicate nor totally absolve the Patriots. You can now see the thought behind the strategy of Belichick getting the alternative explanation out, though.

  14. Book shakalaka! Now just get the Patsy (pun intended) to squeal on Jessup (Kraft) and his co-conspiritors (Belicheat & Brady) and then…”stop. Hammer Time!”

    Oh. Wait. Goodell is still commish. Never mind…sweep sweep, hush hush, nothing to see hear…get blinded by Katy Perry’s assets whilst drinking domestic beer and store bought seven layer dip plebians.

  15. The fact that some of you, despite all the evidence, or lack thereof, can’t just accept nothing happened is ridiculous at this point. We are literally being told by reporters about how a ball boy went to the bathroom for pee. You’re all so jaded. Since when has a team accused of doing anything had their entire organization, top to bottom, come out and deny any wrong doing only to have it blow up in their face? Never happened. And it won’t happen here. Clearly they didn’t do anything, and the KNOW it. Any further hate at this point is 100% biased and a stubborn unwillingness to accept the truth. Any common sense should tell you this thing is a joke and it’s over.

  16. This needs to go away…

    Who cares about this story?

    The Patriots beat my team this year – and I seriously doubt that deflategate had anything to do with it.

  17. To be fair, in week one it took the water boy 17 minutes to get them just how Brady specified, but by the AFCCG he had it mastered down to 90 seconds but did miss 1 ball.

  18. Well that explains it all! The balls entered a humid environment. Clearly the humidity in the bathroom, combined with urinal pucks scent, created the perfect atmosphere, that UNFORTUNATELY lowered the PSI in the balls to an unacceptable level. I mean the dude just had to take a wiz on the way to the field. Case closed. Better start drafting that apology to the Pats Roger. Better yet……throw in a couple first round picks for Bill to trade away.

  19. Wasn’t there a hold up when they were switching balls at the start of the second half because the ball boy was in the can? (The refs had the bag, just not him). Poor kid had the sh1t$ and now he’s accused of ruining the NFL. This is nuts. Nothing happened, just on the lower limit to begin with and then. Azure took its course along with some sour ravens/colts grapes.

    #Inflateanonstorygate

  20. 90 seconds is not enough time. This makes me think even more that the Pats are guilty.

    NFL might be apologizing to Saints coach, they had nothing on him directly.

  21. Dude needed to pee. This isn’t a smoking gun. Pats haters will say they cheated. Pats fans will defend his right to take a tinkle and us normal people would say – if I’m gonna be outside in the rain for 90 minutes I better relieve myself first. Hope he washed his hands. That would be the crime in this scenario.

  22. 90 seconds. 90 seconds. Seriously? I understand some people just need to troll, but it seems fairly innocuous and realistic that a kid about to spend two hours on the sideline would probably want to take a leak. And it sure seems ENTIRELY unlikely that he would be able to get nearly a dozen footballs precisely to what Tom Brady would consider “perfect” in just 90 seconds. Game. Set. Match.

  23. Excited to see the continued effort to explain how they cheated…”he went into the bathroom for 90 seconds, plenty of time to remove air from the balls by exactly the same amount and then rush out, knowing he was being timed by a camera outside the locker-room.” Get a clue folks..and a life. Accept the Pats are the most dominant franchise in league history. You don’t have to like it. Just accept it as fact.

  24. This is what it has come to. The NFL is investigating a guy for going to pee. Were he in there for 3 or 4 minutes we may have something here, but for 90 seconds? He was going to pee.

  25. justannflfootballfan says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:06 PM
    Might have dropped a gigantic dook and the subsequent gases relieved 2 pounds of pressure.

    Literally spit my drink out. Thanks. Lol

  26. Someone owes Bob Kraft an apology

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    Forget Kraft, what about the poor SOB trying to take a leak?

  27. the answer to the central question here is – no. No chance. Especially because there was no rush, the guy didn’t know anybody was watching. You’d be hard pressed to to do 12 balls in 90 seconds if you were being timed. If anything this lends even more credibility to the Patriots and Bob Kraft.

  28. Someone needs to be suspended a year, player staff or owner.
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    Yeah… Like Harbaugh, Pagano, and Irsay, if they had anything to do with this little affair stirring up.

  29. Circumstantial evidence? Yes.
    A substantial addition to the growing mountain of evidence? Yes
    Is it getting very, very difficult for the Pats to mount a defense? Yes.

  30. The pats are brilliant. While all these other teams spend hours roughing up the balls to their QB’s liking the Pats once again are on the cutting edge. They figured out that if you pee on the balls it will cause shrinkage. The best part is if they get intercepted……..the other team now has pee on their hands………LOL good one Bill!

  31. Ahhh the NFL MEMORIES::::::
    Raiders = cheating coaches out of bonuses,
    Chargers = illegal use of stickum,
    Bengals = cheerleader sex with minor,
    Buccaneers = targeted by DEA for pain killer violations,
    Panthers= steroids,
    Dolphins=racism,
    Cowboys=salary cap violations,
    Redskins=salary cap violations, tampering
    49er=salary cap violations, DEA investigating Painkillers
    Jets=tampering (over and over)
    Steelers=Steroids and coach tripping
    Saints=bountygate
    Bills=pimping out cheerleaders,
    Colts=junkie owner,
    Ravens= Ray Rice video and Ray Lewis murdering,
    Broncos = salary cap violations,
    Falcons = Dog killers
    Browns = criminal owner and texting sideline,
    Vikings = Love Boat and kid abuse,
    Seahawks = NCAA rule breaking coach , DEA investigating pain killers
    Giants= faking injuries,
    Chiefs = bugged coaches offices,
    Eagles= substituted dry footballs for kicker illegally,
    Packers = Brette Favre painkiller addiction, Rodgers over-inflated balls

  32. I just conducted a scientific experiment. It took me approximately 90 seconds to deflate my bladder and wash my hands. God forbid he used the bathroom before the game. He should definitely be fired for that.

  33. Colts Balls still at proper level. Before, throughout the game and afterwards.

    Patriots underinflated…

    Something just ain’t right. Not a hater of neither teams…but something just ain’t right.

  34. 12 balls in 90 seconds? It would certainly take a lot of practice to get that fast. …Didn’t Warren Sharp’s fumble data suggest the anomaly has been going on since 2006? Hmm. Yep, that’s a lot of practice.

  35. So the kid took a leak before he went out to do his job because he probably wouldn’t have a chance again until halftime and that is the smoking gun?

    This is getting stoooooopid. The NFL is going to end up looking real bad if this is all they can hang their hat on.

  36. “..Could the employee have fished 12 balls out of a fairly large bag, deflated each of them by two pounds, put them back into the bag, and exited the bathroom in roughly 90 seconds?..”

    With years of practice, I say yes.

  37. Yes, because 90 seconds is enough time to deflate 11 footballs. If the intention was to deflate the footballs, wouldn’t the logical decision be to deflate both teams footballs? The only factor (that a non delusional person would know) is that it was time to bring the footballs on to the field, and on his way to the field, he had to empty his bladder. People never look at all the factors. This new piece comes out, “THAT’S EVIDENCE!. THEY CHEATED. HAHANJDSKFSDFS BALLS!”

  38. The guy had been doing it for so long that he got it down a science to deflate them in 90 seconds. You can do a lot in a minute and a half.

  39. BB’s next statement that the atmospheric pressures the balls experienced in the bathroom contributed to their decrease but of course he’s not a scientist so………….

  40. He urinated and couldn’t leave the footballs unattended. The NFL front office has jumped the shark. Me thinks the owners have had just about enough of this. See ya Goodell. See ya Kensil. Time for the adults to take charge.

  41. BREAKING NEWS: New information just discovered. A secret tunnel was found the same bathroom leading to a mockup vault of the Bellagio casino….Ocean’s 11 style! Proof positive they are guilty! What a joke…..

  42. Forget Kraft, what about the poor SOB trying to take a leak?
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    Well… no one has leaked his name yet, so there’s probably no libel, yet.

  43. Maybe roger has footage of the last pee this kid took and they were too close together for both to be actual pees

  44. BB is so far ahead of everyone! He probably has five equipment managers trained and capable of 90 second deflations. He knows there are no cameras in the bathrooms and he probably knows the average amount of time it takes for a dude to take a leak. After getting busted the first time he made sure to cover EVERY possible angle so he could keep securing an edge. Also, fooling the dip sticks running and reporting about the NFL does not make him a genius, just a jerk.

  45. i don’t like the patriots but really? Video of someone going into the bathroom for 90 seconds? Keep fishing. Really a good chance he had to use the restroom, wash his hands, and check himself out for the cheerleaders.

  46. This is laughable and the timing after krafts speech is histerical!

    7.5 seconds per ball plus entering, potentially locking the door and taking them out of the bag, and deflating each ball to a similar level.

    Roger goodell is desperate to save his job and is going down in flames!

    If you believe that he did that I have abridge to sell you

  47. Maybe they had another bag already filled with the doctored balls hidden above the drop ceiling…
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    That would work, except that the referees mark the balls. If the refs are consistent in their markings (they don’t change from game to game) and you had an experienced forger (so that the referee thinks he’s looking at his own handwriting), yeah… you could pull that off, I guess.

  48. Maybe he should have peed before he got possession of the balls. Especially since the policy is that the balls go from the officials directly to the field.

    And even more especially that the balls from the Colts were not affected by the imaginary atmospheric conditions the Patriots are claiming caused this.

    The only reason 11 of 12 balls were deflated was because he took too long. He had 90 seconds and all he could change were 11.

    I wonder how many times Bill has them practice this each week…

    It won’t matter this week.

    GO HAWKS!

  49. I said this from Day One. Some nobody dives on the grenade. The Patriots fire him and make a whole big deal about it………maybe even show Kraft, Belichick and Brady waving their fingers at him like Babu did to Jerry on Seinfeld and then he ends up with a ton of money in an account somewhere for being a good soldier and taking the rap.

  50. Well only the trolls, the delusionals, and the clearly mentally ill haters are left now. The Pats are vindicated and the haters have to admit…finally…the truth…the Patriots are just better…

  51. Do we know if there was maybe a helper or two already waiting in the bathroom to assist with deflation? It seems somewhat unlikely, but the other Patriot violations haven’t been exactly simple matters to solve either.

  52. Nunan says:

    “Since when has a team accused of doing anything had their entire organization, top to bottom, come out and deny any wrong doing only to have it blow up in their face? Never happened.”

    Ahhh, let’s see. Oh yeah, the Saints!

  53. |-
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    Pictured above is what the video doesn’t show.
    Said Ball Handler dropped this contraption, that to me looks like a 12 Ball Speed Deflater™, just down the hall from the bathroom.
    I’m the first to report this finding.

    Sincerely,
    Taj77

  54. To be fair, in week one it took the water boy 17 minutes to get them just how Brady specified, but by the AFCCG he had it mastered down to 90 seconds but did miss 1 ball.
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    The missed ball is a 20 second penalty.

  55. This story just reached a historic new level for dumb. Little did that ball attendant know that he was handling something so precious he shouldn’t stop to relieve himself on the way out onto the field. This poor dude probably thought bringing the balls into the bathroom was the BEST way to both keep track of the things he was responsible for AND relieve himself before he goes out in front of 80,000 people. Little did he know he should have arranged for an elite team of NFL lawyers to monitor the balls while he relieved himself.

  56. BTW, manufacturing a needle and assembly to exactly deflate a ball by 2lbs is trivial. More than enough time for the balls and taking a leak…

  57. According to Warren Sharp’s statistical analysis, the Pats have been doing this since the beginning of the 2007 season, so I’m sure that dude is quite practiced at deflating balls quickly by now. Ninety seconds is plenty of time for someone who has had a lot of practice.

  58. Told you. He went to take a leak before heading out to the field. If he would have left the balls unattended you guys would be screaming about that and he would likely be out of a job. The press is ridiculous. Glazer knew what the other “area” was but he chose to present it in a way that could seem suspicious. Go back and read all the troll comments in the other story and you get the idea that there are an awful lot of lemmings blindly playing follow the leader

  59. Letting the air out is easy. Removing balls from the bag, lining each one up to muscle out air and then corralling back into bag in such a short time would require a lot of rehearsal. Unless that bathroom had an attendant, too?

  60. Pats trolls in full effect. 3 feet of snow and everyone is signed in to give a thumbs down. There are two type of people on here, intelligent people who know the Pats got caught cheating, and idiots.

  61. So I just did an informal scientific test @ home.. I got 79 seconds.

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    Can’t wait for the reenactment on the networks tomorrow to see if it’s possible. You know it’s coming.

    My guess is it’s easily doable.

  62. I’m pretty sure “Wilson” the volleyball from Castaway is still more famous than these 12 footballs, but it’s getting close!

  63. What’s that? — 90 seconds? Don’t talk about — 90 seconds? You kidding me? 90 seconds?! I just hope we can end this witch hunt. #Framegate (in Jim Mora’s voice)

  64. And even more especially that the balls from the Colts were not affected by the imaginary atmospheric conditions the Patriots are claiming caused this.
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    Do you know what the Colts’ ball pressures were before the game? At half time? No? Then you can’t say what you just said and expect anyone to believe you. Final conditions depend on initial conditions.

    For the hundredth time: “Legal” is a range. If you start near the top, you can lose pressure due to cooling and still be legal. If you start at the bottom, you can’t. This works in reverse, too. Start near the top on a hot day and you’ll be over the limit, whereas a ball that started near the bottom would be within limits.

  65. the balls were approved “to another area on way to field”

    Lol, this case is history. You approve the guy in charge of securing balls a free pass to the bathroom on the way to the field ??

    the balls were approved “to another area on way to field”

    Jesus Christ the NFL can prove nothing without a confession from a ball boy who was in a bathroom less than 90 seconds.

    The NFL should pay millions to the Pats in damages.

  66. Am I wrong or did PFT not report that the investigstion was “zeroed in” on this guy and that he was “a person of interest”?

    Does anyone at PFT know the phrase Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa?

    Where’s Jay Glazer?

  67. NFL fans know that the best games of the year are the conference championships. The Superbowl is almost always a letdown.

    Deflategate has been more entertaining than anything any of the sports reporting talking heads have said all week about the upcoming game itself.

    Keep digging Florio.
    If anything, I want more!

  68. Maybe the guy had to take a leak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And didn’t want to leave the balls around!!! Jesus. Unreal. The answer is no, he couldn’t take air out of the balls in that amount of time. UNREAL.

  69. Letting the air out is easy. Removing balls from the bag, lining each one up to muscle out air and then corralling back into bag in such a short time would require a lot of rehearsal. Unless that bathroom had an attendant, too?
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    If there were an accomplice in the bathroom, that would be on tape, too. You’d just have to run it backwards and make sure the entrances and exits match.

  70. So I guess everyone is just going to overlook the fact that the PATRIOTS are the ones who turned in this video.. If they thought this was so bad, why would they turn it in to the league and not just destroy it or something? Come on people…

  71. The more you do it the faster you become at it. I bet with as much practice as he’s had at deflating the balls he can probably do one every 5 seconds. The second guy was probably timing him.

  72. During Mueller’s investigation of Commissioner Roger Goodell were there daily leaks to the media. No.. none. Nevertheless, Roger’s office has no problems leaking evidence to the media prior to the conclusion of an investigation.

    The only way this stops is when Roger Goodell resigns. Goodell’s hypocrisy seemingly has no limit.

    Can we all agree Goodell needs to go!!!

  73. Unless the “leaker” confesses to being a needle expert, the league has nothing at this point other than apparently inconsistent PSI readings from game-used footballs.

    Things could change if there’s something else that comes along, but as of now, the Patriots are out in front on this one.

    Ironic that their own video skills will help them with the league. I don’t think the haters will acknowledge that, thought.

  74. I can’t seem to find the link to the video. Is this an article about a video without a link to the video?

  75. So…go inside, lock the door, open the bag, take the first ball out, deflate it to exactly the right pressure, put it on the floor (so you don’t mix it up with the balls you haven’t deflated yet), take the next ball out, repeat 11 times, then pick up all 11 balls that are laying around on the disgusting bathroom floor in one fell swoop (is that even possible?), get them back into the bag, pick up the bag, pick up the Colt’s bag, *unlock* the door, and saunter casually out.

    The remarkable thing is the kid got the pressure so exactly right for all 11 balls in such a compressed amount of time.

    But wait – Carnegie Mellon did a study which showed that the combination of air pressure and rain would have achieved the same thing.

    Hmm…which is the more believable hypothesis?

  76. The one thing we can determine beyond a shadow of a doubt based on this brief 90 second time frame is that this dude’s prostate is in perfect working order!

  77. So they find a video of a guy taking a leak in a bathroom but dont find the video of a woman being punched in an elevator ? Awesome.

  78. FoozieGrooler says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:15 PM
    Maybe they had another bag already filled with the doctored balls hidden above the drop ceiling…

    Just stop. The refs mark the balls with silver marker after checking. Seriously your ignorance is showing. Zip up your fly.

  79. Who the heck would take 12 footballs into a bathroom to take a leak with them? It’s absurd! It literally takes 3 seconds to let 2 psi out of a football. This video certainly makes things look worse for the Pats.

  80. Oswald supposedly descended the stairs in 90 seconds also.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    QED. Bellicheck killed JFK

  81. That would work, except that the referees mark the balls. If the refs are consistent in their markings (they don’t change from game to game) and you had an experienced forger (so that the referee thinks he’s looking at his own handwriting), yeah… you could pull that off, I guess.

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    An X or other mark can be done in a second. The refs have other things on their minds when they are on the field. They wouldn’t even notice a difference.

  82. It could happen in that time. If done with a gauge attached to the needle, you only have to look at the 1st ball. The rest can be done by inserting the needle based on time.

    If the balls were inspected @ 12.5 psi, it would take 2-3 seconds to deflate each ball 2 psi. Add in 5 seconds per ball for handling and you get a maximum of 88 seconds to complete the deed or 8 seconds per ball. 8 x 11=88 sec.

    Frankly, there must have been more time. So from the restroom, he went straight to the field?

  83. Most likely he just switched a bag of balls. They already had 12 that they knew wouldn’t pass but Tawmy liked. So get some approved, cast them aside and use the ones you want.

  84. Is there a place in that bathroom where an identical bag ang and identical balls could be hidden for the mission impossible switcharoo?

    Just kidding…..I think…

    Dewdeeduh…dum, dum, dum, dum

  85. ^^^ Completely true. Haven’t you guys ever let air out of a ball? You put the needle in and air rushes out. Pretty simple. Doesn’t take long.

  86. If this kid got #11 balls deflated by exactly 2lbs PSI in 90 seconds his talents are being greatly underutilized. Hopefully there’s an opening on seal team six or the hatchet gang.

  87. That’s just about right…. Needle in each ball for 2 seconds allows 2psi to escape if balls were previously 12.5psi….. One thousand one, one thousand two, next ball….. One thousand one, one thousand two…. Next ball…… Yep right on 90 seconds…..

    Case closed!

    Next cheating incident?? We won’t have to wait long, I’m sure….

  88. The gist of this story is actually bad for the Patriots, because it now proves there was opportunity. Where one of their employees had time alone with the footballs behind closed doors. Sorry Pats fans. This is not good news.

  89. So we have airtight rules and procedures on ball prep, ball handling, PSI upper and lower limits, measurement by refs, not to mention a host of other stupid rules about socks. etc.

    In short we are a controlling obsessive compulsive billion dollar corporation.

    Then the billion dollar institution hands the balls to some zit-faced 18 year stoner. From deep within Gillette, he takes those balls and navigates his way through the stadium under-belly out to the field. If he needs to go #1 or #2, go ahead, no problem. Meanwhile the refs are back in their room yacking, primping, and probably doing a few last pushups.

    I think I follow

    The loser? every fan

  90. laughing hard at the Pats fans here jumping on this news as if it clears their team of any wrong doing.

    Hey, maybe he switched the 12 balls out for 12 other balls that were already in the bathroom?

  91. Keep in mind, that’s not just 90 seconds to deflate 12 footballs to exactly the same PSI.

    That’s 90 seconds to get the correct footballs out of the bag, get the needle into each ball, carefully release just 2 PSI from each ball and then get all 12 balls back in the bag and exit the bathroom.

    If you really think that’s possible, if you really think that scenario is more likely than the ball boy spending 90 seconds to drain the lizard, then I want some of what you’re smoking!

  92. OMG – the kid took a *leak*!!!!!! This is the most amazing ending this could have had! Brilliant! I couldn’t have imagined a better finish. Goodell has officially become a laughingstock!

  93. I can see the Ted Wells report now.

    “From the video of the attendant entering the lavatory with both teams’ footballs and exiting said washroom 1 and a half minutes later we have concluded that the attendant violated state health code regulations as he obviously failed to wash his hands.”

    And this is why you should wince whenever you see a QB lick his fingers.

  94. the league office is an absolute embarrassment.. $44 million/yr. to act like an utter buffoon.. sad

  95. The ball were switched in the bathroom. Identical bag…easy. The other possibility is Brady has one ball deflated,like the one that was intercepted by the Colts, that ball was reportedly way under inflated. Last point : Is it S.O.P. to go to a private area at any time with game balls ? I highly doubt it.

  96. Anyone thinks that a locker room attendant deflated a bag of 12 balls in 90 seconds is an idiot.

    For what it is worth, the footballs are crammed into a bag. If there was intent to deflate the footballs, he would have to take all the balls out, lay them down next to each other so he would know to do a new one each time. Them let a small amount of air out of each ball but not to much with no time to measure and then pack the balls up again in record time.

    You might(?) be able to take 12 balls out lay them down in a small room and pack them up in 90 seconds but that is about it

    the kid went Potty.

    Crisis over, play the game. there is NO WAY Belichick would say with 100% certainty that the Patriots followed the rules to the letter if he did not know in advance.

  97. Nothing changes the fact that 11 of 12 balls were missing air that was certified before the game began.

    Wether it effected the outcome is irrelevant.

    If your a baseball manager and you bet on your team to lose and they win, it is still against the rules to gamble.

    Sooner than later the Pats and their fans will be like Raider fans. Living in the past, how things used to be. Except the patriots will always have a shadow of doubt hovering their years.

    Prepare for life after brady and belichick. It will be here sooner than you think

  98. And, yes, the photo accompanying this story was taken inside one of the bathrooms at Gillette Stadium. When NBC broadcast the Ravens-Patriots playoff game from Foxboro on January 10, Florio Jr. demanded pictures from the venue. Since he didn’t specify where he wanted them from, I took one inside the bathroom and texted it to him.

    He didn’t think it was funny.

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    This has officially become a joke.

  99. An X or other mark can be done in a second. The refs have other things on their minds when they are on the field. They wouldn’t even notice a difference.
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    According to Peter King’s referee bit from last season, they’re numbered, at the very least. Also marked so that they know whose balls they are.

    This is getting into tinfoil-hat land.

  100. If this video was handed over to the NFL, makes you wonder what else they have on surveillance video that they haven’t handed over.

  101. One would think he would go to the bathroom before getting the footballs so he wouldn’t have to lug the footballs in the bathroom with him. If he’s done this before, would it take him that long to deflate 12 footballs?

  102. if the balls went into the elevator inflated, and came out deflated…we can’t really know for sure unless we see them actually punched in the face. right?

    wait..im getting mixed up

  103. Just stop. The refs mark the balls with silver marker after checking. Seriously your ignorance is showing. Zip up your fly.

    ———————————
    And you can’t get a silver marker anywhere? You can’t put an X of some other mark on a ball?

  104. 90 seconds is plenty enough time to deflate 12 footballs. A you gotta do is stick a Needle in each ball for just a few seconds and release some air, causing the PSI to drop in each football. It’s not rocket science people.

  105. If the balls were inspected @ 12.5 psi, it would take 2-3 seconds to deflate each ball 2 psi. Add in 5 seconds per ball for handling and you get a maximum of 88 seconds to complete the deed or 8 seconds per ball. 8 x 11=88 sec.
    ===

    And then he has to pick up all the balls and put them back in the bag.

    Sorry – it’s like the license plate on the the DeLorean said.

  106. Could there have been another bag of balls already in the bathroom. And was it a patriots employee or nfl employee if it was a patriots employee then why does he have the Colts balls ?

  107. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS!!!!

    The nfl need to be very thorough and they need to cover all thier bases. The only way to protect the integrity of the league and the investigation is to also check the ball attendants bowel movements and time them. I think the only way to be fair and balanced would be to have roger goodell personally handle this part of the investigation.

    also gotta love the guy who worked out all in his head and came to a conclusion that it can be done in 88 seconds, I hear the ball boy knew the investigation was coming and already drafted his memoirs for his book in the remaining 2 seconds.

  108. “I never tampered with the ball in any way.” – Tom Brady.

    Beautiful lawyer’s dodge. No one is saying that BRADY tampered with the ball, they are saying that the ball boy did at Brady’s behest.

    This has been going on for games and years, btw.

  109. Belichick is BRILLIANT!

    He must have gotten word of the sting operation planned by the NFL and Colts and found a way to not only make them look foolish BUT ALSO create an opportunity to re-educate the public on what Spygate really was about versus what people have mistakenly called it for the past 7 years.

    He and TB will win 2 more Super Bowls together and retire going down in the record books as the winningest Coach and QB in SB history AND the tarnish of “Spygate” will have been removed, to boot!

    AWESOME!

  110. If there is no bath in there and just a sink and a toilet, then why call it a “bathroom?”
    How about calling it a rest, men’s room or a water closet?
    Anything but bathroom because that just doesn’t make any sense.

  111. Obviously he has some contraption that can deflate up to 12 balls at a time. And since it is new technology, it isn’t perfect and it failed to deflate the 12th ball properly. Obviously.

  112. Some person took two bags of footballs into a bathroom to take a leak. Two bags of footballs. Couldn’t he at least put them outside the door until he was done? Also, 90 seconds? It takes about 3-5 seconds per ball to deflate a ball two lbs.
    This is just another piece of information that puts the Patriots’ explanation into question.

  113. Haven’t you guys ever let air out of a ball? You put the needle in and air rushes out. Pretty simple. Doesn’t take long.
    ===

    And if you overdo it you have a flat (not under pressured – actually flat) football with no way to blow it back up.

    Occam says he was taking a leak.

  114. The real scandal here is that if the dude was only in the bathroom for 90 seconds, he definitely didn’t wash his hands. So I guess the balls really did have a foreign substance on them.

  115. Third, from the same source, the evidence comes from a surveillance video that was discovered by the Patriots and given to the NFL early in the investigation.
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    Which means that Goodell, again, isn’t going to watch it or claim that he didn’t see it or know about it until it goes online by a totally different website that usually has nothing at all to do with football.
    We need you again, TMZ!

  116. 90 seconds is not a lot of time to put the bag down, get the Willie out, wait for the tinkle, wait for the shake, zip up, wash, pick up bag, and exit. BUT, if u do this all the time, 90 plenty to deflate balls. single toilet with lock no camera? This is the belichck everyone knows!!!

  117. If I was the Patriots and NFL, I’d be more upset if he had gone into the WC and left the balls outside unattended. Personally I think that shows he’s a conscientious worker who took his responsibilities seriously. But that makes too much sense, and doesnt feed this ridiculous never ending non-story.

  118. Why is it that each and every one of you that can’t seem to understand the basics of chain of custody? We are talking about a league that has more rules than a normal person can fathom. If he needed to go to the potty he should have done that before it was time to do his job!!!! When he takes possession of the ball bags they should never leave plain sight for any reason at all. They do not pass go, do not collect $200, straight to the field. It could be assumed that with plenty of practice and knowledge of how long he needs to deflate each ball to get it to the psi desired. It doesn’t take but a couple seconds to remove 1 psi from my tires!! Some of you were born in a box and refuse to think outside of it. Of course that probably makes you a Pats fan because anybody else in there right mind knows what BB is capable of. Bottom line, NO WAY IN HELL those balls should have went into that bathroom. I’m sure the young man knew this, but ” he had to go”!!!!!

  119. Belichick press conference
    “At no time were any of our footballs prepared anywhere other than our locker room or in an area very close to that, never in a heated room or a heated condition.”

  120. Goodell baited the hook and the same clowns that believed the initial Kensil leaks chomped on this story. This could be a big lose – lose for the haters because it is looking like the Patriots might be off the hook and Goodell could be back in Kraft’s good graces. Could the future include the Patriots winning the SB, the haters looking like fools, and Kraft throwing another party and inviting Goodell. If you are a Patriots fan, it is morning in America.

  121. The NFL needs to get rid of ball boys and locker room attendants. The equipment staff should be responsible for the footballs and not some low level flunkies that have been hired. I guess the integrity of the game went down the tubes.

  122. The truth is getting closer. Its only a matter of time before it gets out.

    Why 11 balls under inflated and not 12?
    The only time the Colts could touch a pats ball, besides a turnover, would be at the coin flip. So the pats made sure the one properly inflated ball came out at the start of the game.

    As for the bathroom, its likely a bag of footballs was already in the bathroom and the ball boy just dropped the inspected pats bag and picked up a bag already in the bathroom.

    Its not difficult to figure out that the pats cheated.

  123. According to Peter King’s referee bit from last season, they’re numbered, at the very least. Also marked so that they know whose balls they are.

    This is getting into tinfoil-hat land.
    ————————————————
    How long does it take to put a number on a ball and some other marking? It doesn’t have t be perfect the refs won’t even notice a difference. It is rough surface.

  124. Why would he want to be in and out in 90 seconds? Because he wasn’t supposed to be alone in a locked bathroom with the footballs – he was supposed to carry them directly to the field. He knew he needed to be fast, and to be somewhere where he couldn’t be watched. And you can be quite sure the Pats practiced this, as Bill practices everything. He’s famous for it.

  125. DOSEN’T EVERYBODY TAKE 24 FOOTBALLS INTO THE BATHROOM WITH THEM?

    GIVE ME A BREAK THIS ORGANIZATION STINKS, FROM THE VERY TOP TO THE VERY BOTTOM!

  126. Its not like the guy couldn’t have any practice at doing this.

    It also explains that he didn’t have time to get to the last ball.
    ===
    No it doesn’t. He didn’t know he was being watched, thus he has no reason to hurry and not do the last ball.

  127. What most of you don’t understand is that in a criminal investigation, you look for three things. Motive, opportunity, and rationalization. What you just got here was clear opportunity. The kid was not supposed to be going into a locked room with those balls where he could do something unobserved. The fact that he was in and out quickly only goes to show that he was quite practiced at it, and that he knew he needed to be quick so he wouldn’t get caught.

  128. stoneygroove says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:11 PM
    Circumstantial evidence? Yes.
    A substantial addition to the growing mountain of evidence? Yes
    Is it getting very, very difficult for the Pats to mount a defense? Yes.
    _______________________________________

    You obviously only read headlines. You can’t get 12 balls out of the bag and back inside it in 90 seconds, never mind deflate them all.

    The game was delayed by 10 minutes because the NFC game went to OT…the kid realized he had time to take a leak before kickoff.

    90 seconds…that’s a freaking riot. so many posters were sure THIS was the smoking gun. But, nope…just the peeing ballboy. The investigators must have asked how many shakes he gave it.

    And the funniest part…none of this is from confirmed sources. Tomorrow we’ll hear another source put something else out there and and everyone will be sure THAT’s the silver bullet. And a few hours later another source will contradict the other source. Although this source.

  129. How long can it take to carry the balls from the ref’s office to the field — maybe a minute, tops?

    Yet instead of going to the bathroom before or after he fulfills his important duty of carrying the game balls for the AFC Championship out to the playing field, this guy decides he needs to go to the bathroom during that short journey, while toting two bags of footballs.

    Is it possible?
    Sure.
    Likely?
    No way.

  130. I’m a Pats fan and this is sad. Guilty or not guilty who cares? The league fine is $25,000. They’re probably guilty but let’s be real on how stupid this is and how deflating balls is retarded. An advantage yes/maybe, but how different is it from all the other bull crap that we know goes on. People that hate the pats have to stop trying so hard and following media…….

  131. tony2308 says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:48 PM
    Obviously he has some contraption that can deflate up to 12 balls at a time. And since it is new technology, it isn’t perfect and it failed to deflate the 12th ball properly. Obviously.
    —————————————————————-
    Now I don’t know if the official issue at the pro level is the same one that you and I can buy to toss around in the back yard. If it is, then all he needs is an inflation needle. Stick that bad boy into the inflation hole without the pump and the air in the ball should start leaking. Do that for a few seconds for each ball.
    He also could have met someone that was waiting in there to help. It’s a possibility.

  132. I really don’t care for either team, especially 9-11 truther Pete Carroll, but I hope the Patriots get rocked.

    Its one thing to cheat and get caught, but to railroad some low level equipment manager is bush league. Tom Brady’s legacy and the Patriot’s “championships” will always have an * due to a corrupt organization.

    No crying, especially with that awful New England accent, will change that.

  133. How long does it take to put a number on a ball and some other marking? It doesn’t have t be perfect the refs won’t even notice a difference. It is rough surface.
    ===

    You can’t tell if you wrote a number, of if someone else did? Just because you’re an unobservant git doesn’t mean everyone else is. Besides? What if you get the mark wrong? What if the official decides to write a special message on the ball and then realizes its missing?

    The needle in the bathroom theory is more plausible than the ball bag swap. There’s fewer ways it could go wrong, and takes fewer people.

  134. If it really was 90 secs there is no possible way he could of deflated 11 balls 2 lbs. each in that time span. Sounds like the Patriots are trying to pin this on some poor guy.

    The Patriot Way.

  135. Why would he want to be in and out in 90 seconds?
    ===
    He didn’t know he was being watched. What the difference between 90 seconds and 11 balls vs 98 seconds (as some have calculated) and 12 balls?

  136. You have to wonder if Glazer is sitting and staring at his smartphone wondering how he didn’t see that second text from his source saying “But the investigators think the kid just had to pee”.

  137. Let’s suppose for the moment that the Pats really did cheat again by doing this and that there would be zero question about it.
    Man oh man, I can’t wait to read how the Pats fans are going to deny this one!
    I can just imagine what its like to play poker with any of them.
    “I honestly don’t know how that ace ended up in my pocket. It must have come with the shirt when I bought it.”

  138. Eric Kester, TV’s official Ball Boy expert, has never been a ball boy according the the Bears.
    You can’t make this stuff up. 1 psi is 2 psi, 90 second bathroom tape supplied was by the Pats. Offseason is off to a Monty Python start.

  139. The balls were deflated, this was only time it could have happens, they have video of everything else.

    They got him… Not sure why pats fans keep forgetting the balls were deflated.

    All leaks until Monday when the nfl can cash all their advertising checks.

    Next up, what’ did he say in interview and how long has this been happening for

  140. It amazes me how badly people WANT this to be a scandal even if there aren’t facts to support it. Every time I hear them called cheaters I laugh as it just means people can’t handle their success…keep it coming!

  141. The “rogue” ball boy takes the fall and he gets to have dinner with Giselle.
    Watch out though: she’s just as foul-mouthed as Tom.

  142. Technically this kid works for the nfl. Thats why he had the colts balls too.

    Previous kids in his position were interviewed and they all said they weren’t asked to do jack.

    is it possible he had to take a leak? If he did a number 2 he’d be in there long enough to blame him for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping.

  143. How do we know that there weren’t already 2 “planted” bags in the bathroom already with the balls already deflated to Brady’s liking? Quick little switcheroo, check the hair in the mirror, and head on out.

    90 seconds

  144. Of course someone deflated the Patriots footballs! They deflated them to the exact psi in which Tom Brady would have preferred! They are his footballs! Of course Brady and Belichick aren’t going to admit to any wrongdoing. They are serial cheaters!

  145. Since the Patriots produced the tape is it possible they gave the league this one and are hiding another? 2 psi is significant enough for a ref to notice in the pregame check, and there is no scientific way the balls naturally deflated. The kid was clearly taking a leak, or a time travelling genius with some futuristic device that could deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds.

  146. This is a total team scandal. He went in the bathroom and swapped out 12 balls that were planted there ahead of time. This thing is bigger than Nino Brown the ball boy.

  147. Done this before. I could’ve done all 24 balls in 90 seconds.
    Pick up a ball… insert gauge for 1 second to expel 2lbs psi…drop ball…repeat

    Any college equipment manager can do this.
    A well-practiced professional equipment manager doing this quickly-on-the-down-low is a no-brainer.

    He would only do it before a game at the request of his team’s starting quarterback.

    end of story

  148. Ah… another room of non-believers. Glad these posters are mostly clueless, but here goes in lawyer speak –
    #1) No one said that he did it he bathroom, only that he was seen going into the bathroom… maybe he did it before or after.
    #2) No one said the balls were ‘exactly’ any weight, only that they were under by approx the same amount on each, which leads to #3…
    #3) Yes, you can do this in 90 seconds, especially if the person had prior practice and had been doing this for other games. Don’t be so fast to blow this of as ‘he was taking a pee’ … have you tried it? All the balls in a bag, dump ’em on the floor, pick them up one at a time, stick a needle with a gauge on it into the air hole and count 1, 2, 3 and move on…
    Without a doubt you can do 12 and get them all back into the original bag. They all won’t be perfect, but no one said they were. You all assume way too much.

    Ever watch NASCAR or F1 do a pit stop? What you can do in 15 seconds is amazing, isn’t it. 90 seconds is an eternity.

    Not saying it’s true, I sure don’t know, but blowing it off without even giving it a bit of credence is numbing, Pats fans, we know you don’t want to believe this is going on, but it is and probably has been for a long time. Face it, you’ve been busted.

  149. I’ve generally been ok with Goodell as there is a lot of good that he’s brought to the NFL. But holy crap he’s steered the NFL into a PR mess unnecessarily.

    The Pats are in a no-win situation. If they win, it’s because they cheated. If they lose, it’s because of #deflategate.

    If the Seahawks win or lose, their story will be overshadowed as well.

    So the result of the biggest game of the year will be secondary to this nonsense.

    Rog should have done damage control behind the scenes. Dish out a stern warning and maybe fine the Pats if found guilty.

    Think it’s time for some new leadership in Park Ave.

  150. The footballs were in a fish net like sack just stick a needle in it and on and on and on .the smoking gun is all Ind footballs checked out perfect and 11 of 12 NE footballs were tampered with da da da NE fans can’t explain that away. For reasonable and intelligent people this doesn’t make sense .ok Ne fans explain to me how all of Ind footballs checked out perfect and only one Ne football was good WAKE UP!!??..

  151. What most of you don’t understand is that in a criminal investigation, you look for three things. Motive, opportunity, and rationalization. What you just got here was clear opportunity. The kid was not supposed to be going into a locked room with those balls where he could do something unobserved. The fact that he was in and out quickly only goes to show that he was quite practiced at it, and that he knew he needed to be quick so he wouldn’t get caught.

    ————————————————————

    Stop being stupid. It is impossible for someone to deflated 12 balls to a similar level in 90 seconds.

  152. It takes the average person only 21 seconds to pee. If he washed his hands he should have been in and out in not more than 45 seconds. What was he doing in there for the other 45 seconds? He had more than enough time to empty the bladder in those balls.

  153. How can Belichek or Kraft say, without a doubt, that they did everything to the book?? If they did, then the balls wouldn’t be under inflated. So either the NFL needs to revise their guidelines and state that the ball’s psi of 12.5 to 13.5 is on the field of play, and not in the locker room or there is a quality control problem with the Patriots and the balls were unintentionally under inflated. Either way, there is something wrong with the process if balls were under inflated. Therefore Kraft can’t say what he did.

  154. Now we have people trying to rationalize how the balls could be deflated in 90 seconds. Please do us all a favor and go back to your bunkers. The gov’t is coming for your guns!!!!! You insecure paranoid dopes.

  155. smasonsmith says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:59 PM

    No it doesn’t. He didn’t know he was being watched, thus he has no reason to hurry and not do the last ball
    __________________
    I can’t put it past the NE to have a guy go to the bathroom dump out 12 balls try to lose a smidge of air in each maybe he lost track of them and only did 11.

    Especially when you need to hold a closed team meeting to talk about what PSI you like your balls at with your teammates.

  156. Why would he take 24 balls in the bathroom while taking a leak? Fear they would be stolen in less than two minutes out of sight? 11 under inflated balls equals funny business all day. Makes perfect sense to me. AFCCG at home plus recent playoff and Super Bowl failure. Guilty of cheating in the past. For the fame and fortune involved you will do whatever you can get away with.

  157. If this kid could deflate just four balls to a specific PSI in under 90 seconds, I would be extremely impressed.

    If he can do it to 11 balls in that time frame, he either has ball deflating super powers or he’s the Devil himself. I can’t believe there are people that think this is even physically possible.

  158. I love these pats fans. They will go down in flames with their team, cheating, lying, integrity no integrity don’t matter. Die hard fans for sure.

    Problem is your Patriots don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. They break rules. And they knowingly do it, we can’t get over it because it seems to keep happening and the NFL is insulting I agree with their preschool investigation. Their footballs were deflated, by someone. Maybe Goodell? 11-12 balls is more then a coincidence. Football fans from other cities are done with these guys, we’re sick of hearing how great these guys are but then they bend the rules., tape walkthroughs, fudge injury reports, we’re spent on this team. I never heard of one team be accused so much.

  159. Is there a possibility that someone was already in the bathroom with the deflated balls and all he had to do was switch them out. It would not take long at all!

  160. I love that this isn’t even an equipment manager, it is a “locker room attendant”…which sounds as low on the totem pole as you can get. This kids whole job is the move them from one place to another, I’m guessing.

    Now we are supposed to believe that Tom Brady or Bill Belichick handed this kid a needle and said, “Hey kid, when the refs give you the ball, duck into the bathroom, empty all the balls out of the bag, defate each one by 1 or 2 psi (depending on which report you believe), put them back in, and get to that field before anyone notices!”

    We have heard all week about how meticulous Tom Brady is about his precious footballs, now we are supposed to believe that he signed off on a “locker room attendant” messing with the air pressure of said balls in a little bathroom.

    Amazing.

  161. jetfan74 says: Jan 26, 2015 11:52 PM

    Why is it that each and every one of you that can’t seem to understand the basics of chain of custody? We are talking about a league that has more rules than a normal person can fathom. If he needed to go to the potty he should have done that before it was time to do his job!!!! When he takes possession of the ball bags they should never leave plain sight for any reason at all. They do not pass go, do not collect $200, straight to the field. It could be assumed that with plenty of practice and knowledge of how long he needs to deflate each ball to get it to the psi desired. It doesn’t take but a couple seconds to remove 1 psi from my tires!! Some of you were born in a box and refuse to think outside of it. Of course that probably makes you a Pats fan because anybody else in there right mind knows what BB is capable of. Bottom line, NO WAY IN HELL those balls should have went into that bathroom. I’m sure the young man knew this, but ” he had to go”!!!!!

    ———————————————————–

    And in the future, I’m sure it’ll happen as you describe. But last Sunday, you can’t convince me that ANYONE cared enough to monitor bathroom time for a ball boy. It was a non-issue that forever more won’t be a non-issue. Chain of custody, while perfectly practical, has likely never been mentioned in reference to the footballs until this past week.

    And it’s hilarious that all of the people who insist that BB is not a genius then give him magical powers of evil the way that you have. Perhaps he’s a wizard instead?

  162. A couple of things here…. First off, the Patriots and Colts both have 24 balls each…12 primary and 12 backup. So him having 24 could be all Pats (could also be all Colts, since the home team provides the ball boys for the visiting team).

    Another thing is that if the Patriots wanted the balls at a certain amount of air pressure, why would they be so different? If it was that important to have them squeezably soft, why was there so much variation (1 to 2 psi difference) rather than all more equal to provide a consistent experience? Seems to me that if the QB wanted them all 2 psi lighter, they would all be 2 psi lighter… I would think that the difference would actually hamper the ability to throw the ball, and certain affect using one to another on different plays when the first time a QB touches the football on a play is when he receives the snap. How does he know which weight he’d be getting from one time to the next? Seems much more complex to go that route when he obviously could grip and throw the properly inflated balls in worse conditions without incident.

  163. Laughing so hard at the idiots trying to cling to the notion that this is a smoking gun. No, it’s not possible to deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds. Locking the door, taking all of the balls out, sticking the needle in each one, putting them back in the bag, unlocking the door…in 90 seconds? With years of practice, doing it like your life depends on it? Sure, maybe. But why the hell would he rush? He has no idea he’s even being timed, let alone that anybody will ever know he went in there. If he was deflating the balls, he would’ve taken his time and gotten it right. Now, peeing and washing your hands? That’s a comfortable 90 seconds on the dot right there.

    I don’t know if the Patriots deflated the balls, but this sure as hell doesn’t prove they did. Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but neither does the “why didn’t the cold affect the Colts’ balls???” argument. As we found out from Aaron Rodgers, there are just as many QBs who like the footballs overinflated – and Luck just may be one of them. So if they inflate their balls to the maximum, or a little over, and the cold causes the pressure to drop the same amount as the Patriots’ then, by golly, they’re still legal.

  164. If someone has a good answer for this, I and others would like to know…

    12 balls for each team were used in the game. Only 11 balls were under inflated and those belonged to the Patriots. None of the Colts balls were under inflated.

    So how can this be blamed on weather, temperature, atmospheric conditions?

    If that was the cause, then wouldn’t the Colts have under inflated balls also? They played in the same weather, on the same field, for the same amount of time.

    Were the Patriots balls special?

    This is just too much of a coincidence. Either the Patriots had low or under inflated balls to begin with and/or someone under inflated them after they were checked. Especially after learning that the balls were checked at half-time and they stayed inflated at the right pressure through the second half of the game. Therefore, it couldn’t have been the weather, temperature, or atmospheric conditions.

    Regardless of whether you are a Patriots fan or not, this is just plain logic and common sense.

    If all 24 balls were under inflated, then we wouldn’t even be talking about this.

    If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck – IT’S A DUCK!

  165. It’s almost funny how so many fans are reaching for a non incriminating explanation. HE TOOK FOOTBALLS INTO A BATHROOM. A BATHROOM! WHO DOES THAT?

  166. Show me in the rule book that a ball boy is supposed to go directly to the field? All it says is you can’t tamper with the footballs after their inspected…

  167. Another thing I love: the idea of this poor kid sitting in front of an extremely agitated Bill Belichick, probably the most frightening man on the face of the earth, and having to explain why he ducked into the bathroom for 90 seconds. He probably knew he wasn’t supposed to go…but he’s the “locker room attendant,” and he thought, “Aw, who’s gonna know?” And now it is literally international news.

    And did they really do 40 interviews about this kid’s bathroom habits? Talk to his mom, his sister, his college roommate? 40 interviews!

    It boggles the mind.

  168. 90 seconds can be a long time to deflate 11 balls, or switch bags of balls from a stall. I am NOT saying that something happened, just that 90 seconds does not mean nothing happened.

  169. smasonsmith says: Jan 26, 2015 11:59 PM

    Its not like the guy couldn’t have any practice at doing this.

    It also explains that he didn’t have time to get to the last ball.
    ===
    No it doesn’t. He didn’t know he was being watched, thus he has no reason to hurry and not do the last ball.

    ————————————————————————————–

    The normal inflated ball is most likely for the kicker. Under inflated balls do not give you an advantage in kicking.

  170. The kid was interviewed by the NFL and prior to that the Patriots. I have no idea what he said but I am certain that if he did anything it would be known.

    What we do know – per Belichick, Brady and Kraft no rules were broken by the Patriots

    Per the NFL – the investigation will take a while. Translation – the kid didn’t do anything.

  171. Why don’t you all just find something else to do besides watching or even talking about this fiasco of a product called a football game.
    The game is going to be so lopsided with Lynch loaded with the most powerful PED’S and by the way why is he never tested? This guy(Lynch) will score four or five touchdowns running right thru players like they are not even there. I have seen it before and you are going to see it again and you will be asking yourself or someone is this guy normal or what. Have you ever really taken a close look at this guy? He would scare the hell out of a King cobra if it was face to face with him.
    SB a waste of time!!!!!!

  172. They say one ball was 2 psi under…

    I believe he hit the same ball twice causing a difference in 2 psi, while the other 10 were the newly reported 1 psi under…

    I’m a Pats fan and this is turning my stomach.

    Say it ain’t so, Tom!

  173. If I need to pee, I’m going to do so BEFORE I’m lugging around 24 footballs.

    Ninety seconds is plenty of time. If this is a recurring situation, the guy knows what he’s doing. A fully inflated football is pretty taut – opening the valve for three or four seconds is plenty of time to soften the ball. Go ahead and count to 4-mississippi and imagine a high-pressure hiss the whole time.

    I’m not saying he did it, but an experienced, organized person who can count to four could certainly accomplish it in ninety seconds.

  174. Why was the attendant given the balls to be used by both teams? One attendant should have picked up the Patriots balls and another should have picked up the Colts balls. I believe that is standard procedure. Mike, your source is connected to the Patriots.

  175. I would bet money there was a camera on those balls from the time the refs got the balls until they gave them to the ball boy.

    And I’d bet it didn’t show one ball being tested by the refs.

  176. Florio is giving the proper gravitas to this. The toilet pic is perfect.

    An alleged minor rule infraction not worth bothering with until after the SB. You would think it were worthy of execution reading the hyperventilating of many of the comments here.

  177. The Mystery Attendant is now known as Scapegoat.

    Mr Scapegoat will be retiring after the SB.
    With a VERY Inflated bank account.

  178. To put into perspective how much time we are talking about here. 90 seconds is enough time to conceive a baby. To make a human being. Sticking a pin in 11 balls to let out the air is rather trivial in comparison.

  179. Seriously…if you do a job over a number of years, you can become quite effective and efficient at it.

    Based on the statistics now floating around regarding New England’s extreme efficiency of ball control in the last several years, something has changed.

    I can easily take 2 PSI out of a ball in by garage in seconds.

    The guy who brought up chain of custody is absolutely right. If you are responsible for the actual game balls in the AFC Championship, do you honestly believe the guy is gonna go get the balls, then think “shoot, I need to take a wiz on my way out”.

    Seriously shocking how many people are willing to turn a blind eye when someone is essentially making a fool of you.

    And we wonder why people continue to lie, cheat and steal and have no integrity in today’s world.

  180. jrs1972 says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:16 PM

    So I just did an informal scientific test @ home.. I got 79 seconds.

    Hang em.. cheaters!

    =========================================

    So you own 12 Official “The Duke” NFL game balls? That’s 100 dollars a pop ($1200). You, under the pressure of video surveillance, walked into a bathroom with 2 bags of 24 footballs, differentiated the correct bag, removed all 12 footballs, made sure you didn’t hit the same ball twice; keep in mind this would require removing all 12 footballs at once (dropping them on the floor of the bathroom where they can bounce around like a fumble), gathering them 1 by 1, deflating them by no more than 2 psi each, putting them back in the bag, and then walking out of the bathroom in 90 seconds.

    This would be an average of 6.58 seconds per football. You sir, are all wet with your claim.

  181. Is there video footage of the equipment manager treating the footballs to support Belichick’s theory?

    Also, we NEED to know each teams’s starting psi’s and game-ending psi’s.

  182. Well if Bill had the time, he would probably take 12 balls in a bag in a restroom and see if he can take a ball out of the bag, deflate it, put it back in the bag and repeat the sequence 12 times (oh ok 11 times) all in under 90 seconds. Don’t tempt him now.

  183. I couldn’t dislike the Seahawks or the Patriots any more than I already do, however I see this as much an officiants issue as anything. It’s the job of the officials to inspect each ball to be used and then approve or disapprove of them. If the truth were known they probably didn’t inspect them at all. Or if they did it was a visual inspection at best. Therefore the real responsibility falls squarely on the shoulders of the officials. The same officials that have made mistake after mistake all year. Some really big mistakes on top of that.

    Now did the Patriots know from experience that the alls wouldn’t be thoroughly inspected and take advantage of the fact…I don’t know, but in my eyes this isn’t just a Patriots issue

  184. If the footballs weren’t pumped….
    ……..the ballboy must have dumped.

    Regards,
    Johnny Cochran

  185. Oh my God, I don’t care. I just don’t care anymore. Please–let this end Media! I just don’t care! I don’t care what Brady did, or the ball boy or Belecheat…just seriously let this end. Now. End my pain. Please.

  186. Pats fans are either loser, cheater, liars or complete tools.

    Really? Since he didn’t know he was being recorded no way would he go into a locked room to perform a deed that is blatantly illegal.

    LOL

    Yes, when I wiz I take 12 balls into a small broom with me because I can’t hold it for 20 more yards even though I knew going in I had to take them out.

    Wow.

  187. I just wish I were that kid. No matter what happened, my savings account would be going up dramatically.

    Before a lot of haters start posting, this is called s-a-r-c-a-s-m.

  188. Hey…could it be that the refs deflated the balls because Roger was trying to fix the game? I know this sounds off, but Roger has done some odd things this year, and I wouldn’t put it past him.

  189. It would be interesting to see if this same attendant did the same thing in the previous home game. I also find it odd if the Patriots did cheat that they would entrust some guy who makes 10 bucks a hour to do something like this.

    It would also be nice to see the video. And saying it is about 90 seconds…what does that mean? That sounds like it is less than 90 seconds. If so how much so? And who the hell is leaking all this info? Why is this info being leaked before the final report?

    So here is the time frame:
    4 seconds to close the door and lock it
    8 seconds to dump balls out and try to get them kinda organized
    6.7 seconds per ball to grab the ball rotate it in hand, deflate it amazingly accurately, and then stuff it back in the bag
    4 seconds to unlock door and exit

    And nothing bad happens….like a ball falling down and rolling behind a toilet…lets face it footballs were not exactly designed to be very cooperative.

  190. If he went to take a pee and left the balls out, then people would be screaming about lax security. So, NFL, what was he doing for 90 seconds? Or is this another dead end? Produce something tangible. You too Florio.

  191. Adnan clearly didn’t have time to strangle Hey and make the call from the Best Buy that may or may not have had a payphone. Oops, wrong topic.

  192. who cant switch a bag full of 12 footballs in 90 seconds? walk in with one bag walk out with another. easy as pie. in the espionage business this is known as a dead drop.

    pats fans are gasping at straws

    Who takes a bag of footballs to go to the toilet? answer someone who doesnt want to be observed doing something he shouldnt?

  193. Clearly there is no possible way, no conceivable manner in which a guy can deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds. I mean, he surely never practiced this before, so it being the first time and all, it would have taken more time, right? (I’m willing to say that after testing this at home 5-6 times, I’d have an exact “one-one-thousand” count down and could manage it pretty exactly without years of practice.) What, he may have done this before? May have even practiced this exact routine daily? Oh well, then….

    What’s even better is everybody making excuses for his quick pee–not sure what kind of work ethic you have personally, but say you are in the middle of your job, handling just-verified, sensitive materials and your only task for the next couple minutes is to deliver them to their respective owners (two hours before game-time, so it’s not like you’re super busy right after that delivery), so you decide… yeah, I gotta take a leak? That’s as laughable as assuming he did it on his own, without guidance, approval, or prior practice.

    Have you seen the recent articles (Saturday’s Wall Street Journal, among others) on the Pats’ fumble tendencies, particularly for players when they are Pats and when they are on other teams? It’s amazing how much better they are at not fumbling when they wear a certain uniform. How on earth can that be explained? And you still believe the balls have been kosher all these years? Blinders.

    The saddest thing is this guy will swing (luckily his early retirement will be well-funded) but Goodell will not likely apply his “ignorance is no excuse” doctrine to the Pats and take down the upper management folks who authorized this, or didn’t know it went on when they should have which is what got Sean Payton nailed.

  194. Only 11 balls are deflated instead of all 12 because you need to have 1 to hand the officials in case, for some reason, during the game, they ask for a ball to check.

    So you don’t deflate all 12.

    Assuming the Pats have been doing this for awhile, getting a routine down to let 2 psi out of 11 balls very quickly in a secluded spot wouldn’t take that long.

    90 seconds does sound iffy.

  195. .
    wait. the pats supplied the video…

    and the video authenticity isnt coming into question?

    check the dudes bank account, bet he deposited a large amount of cash from the Pats…

  196. Really people, its a stupid game, for those who think your life will benefits from any of these games is mind boggling, unless you made a bet like over 20k to win, you gain nothing its entertainment. that’s all. its a stupid game! brought from years and years of slow training of you to like a stupid game! Poor sad people out there!

  197. Hmmm…yeah….he’s going out onto the field for warmups and the first half at least, and he decides it’s a good idea to pee.

    Well, at least you put in the article that it was a bathroom, it was for 90 seconds, and it was a video discovered by and provided by the Patriots.

    Had it been a storage closet, been longer than say 3 minutes, and a video that was provided by a security company, you would have been on that like white on rice.

    On a side note I keep hearing “why didn’t the Colts footballs lose pressure, yada yada yada. Well, what we have not heard is what they were blown up to in the first place. Also, the Colts balls were not used nearly as much because that offense stunk up the joint, and the Pats offense dominated the time of possession. The Patriots had the ball for over 15 minutes more than the Colts as a result of their 35-0 run. It doesn;t sound like all the balls were down 2 psi either. Just one, and it was the one that the Colts had taken to their sideline and played with!

  198. You Patriot fans are a bunch of CLOWNS in denial. The guy has 1 job: take the balls directly to the field. But he didn’t do that! He went into a secured, single use bathroom (and we all know it’s illegal to have cameras in bathrooms).

    Trying to rationalize this by saying “he couldn’t do it in 90 seconds” is just a desperate last gasp of hope you fools are hanging onto. It takes seconds to take 2 PSI out of a ball.

    You can kick and scream all you want, but deep down you know what happened, you’re just too proud to admit it.

  199. Simply outrageous … this guy needs to take a whiz a couple times a day? Say it ain’t so!!! It must be all Brady’s fault!! LOL!

  200. Its the beginning of the end chowderheads. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving team. Good riddens to Belichek and Brady. The NFL won’t miss you.

  201. Why would he take the balls with him into the bathroom? What kind of sense does that make? C’mon man. People have been struggling to find excuses for what happened to those balls for a week now, but there aren’t any. Accept it. Some lowly ball boy will take the fall after the Super Bowl.

  202. Has nobody here ever freaking pumped a tire and adjusted it? It would take exactly two sec. to take the air out of one ball, esp if they had practice as an equipment manager would. Ever been to a bike shop? The guys who fill tires all the time have it down. And, the attendant wouldn’t have to take the balls out the bag. Just do it in the bag. 90 sec, 11 balls, hell yes that’s enough time. Come on.

  203. This is an embarrassing and disturbing commentary on roger Goodells tenure as commissioner.

    First of all, it wouldn’t be 90 seconds to deflate balls. It would be 90 seconds to bring balls into room, get them out of bag, remove air, reload into bag and get back out??? That strains incredulity. That is just so far fetched.

    This was a witch hunt from the get go. So what is the commissioner of the NFL doing setting up a sting during afc championship game? It is a disgrace. He unfairly caused a you know what storm for no reason!!!!!!

    And let’s just get this straight: so roger Goodell couldn’t get a video of Ray rice beating his girlfriend, but he was able to get a video of the poor ball boy taking a leak before the game when it suited him.

    This guy is a loser, he has been an awful commissioner from day 1, and now it’s time for him to go. He betrayed Mr Kraft. He is clearly incompetent and I’m going to enjoy the media blitz as the crosshairs turn to him and his disgraceful lack of competence. The beginning of the end for Goodell.

  204. Hey Mike, instead of pushing a story like this which makes the investigation sound even more ridiculous, interview the ref who checked the balls to see if they were ever at 12.5-13.5 to begin with. Why not ask questions as to what procedures are used? I guarantee even then they will deny, say they signed off, everything was checked when they weren’t to begin with. I’m willing to bet the ball were given a slight squeeze, they all felt consistent, and were passed along. I’m also willing to bet that they find that there really is not quality control check that is enforced for every team/ every game. And furthermore, if there were a quality control in place, the person or persons conducting such a check would be held responsible. In other words, someone didn’t do their job and most likely hasn’t done it in a really, really long time.

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  206. Take all the balls out deflate 11 of them, put them back one by one all in 90 seconds. Take 2 big bags of balls, open the door, unzip your fly, take a leak, zip up, wash your hands, open the door pick up the 2 bags, all in 90 seconds.—- quite sure the NFl will try to duplicate the scenarios. Why bother. The Pats is already pronounced guilty by the media and the talking heads.

  207. 90 seconds to urinate or pick out 11 balls and exactly deflate them.

    OK experts, time to fill the video sites with jokesters trying to see if they can do this alleged crime against nature, animals, and small kids.

  208. Now it’s time to look at the video of the ball boy on the sideline – The Pats should easily have that available too.

  209. I am waiting for them to suoer impose suh walking out of the walking out of the bathroom so they can say suh did it. They want to ban him from the league and we havnt had a suh is bad story in a while so …

  210. All the statements and scientific claims coming from the patriots still have yet to answer a few fundamental questions…

    1. Why is it that only their footballs were out of spec at halftime?
    2. When the refs made them use a second set of footballs in the second half, how come those footballs were in spec at the end of the game?

    Clearly, it seems like they have spent a lot of time researching and testing in order to come up with their explanation of why 11 footballs were out of spec. But, even if one was to believe the math behind the pats explanation. they have yet to address why the colts footballs and the pats 2nd half footballs did not have the same problem.

  211. Lol some of u haters need to stop taking crazy pills and put ur tinfoi hats back on. Its clear u are so scared of the patriots that they are already in ur heads.

  212. apkyletexas says:
    Jan 27, 2015 12:00 AM
    What most of you don’t understand is that in a criminal investigation, you look for three things. Motive, opportunity, and rationalization. What you just got here was clear opportunity. The kid was not supposed to be going into a locked room with those balls where he could do something unobserved. The fact that he was in and out quickly only goes to show that he was quite practiced at it, and that he knew he needed to be quick so he wouldn’t get caught.

    Rrright, and 9/11 was an inside job also.

  213. People here are funny. And by people, I mean Pats fans. Its 90 seconds so it does matter? Did you ever stop to think that deflated balls were already in the bathroom, and were used to replace the others?

    There’s a million possibilities. The important part is that protocol was broken. Motive already established. Past history already established. Now, we have opportunity. Open and shut case, your honor.

  214. So the balls were alone with a Patriots employee in a locked room for at least 90 seconds. It’s more than possible to let out 2 pounds of pressure from each ball in that amount of time as long as you had a psi gauge with a release button. Disqualify the Patriots.

  215. So the surveillance video was “discovered” by the Patriots? They turned it over to the NFL. Do they not know where all the surveillance cameras are in their own stadium? They had to “discover” it? When they “discovered” the video, how long did it take them to tamper with it? Maybe he was in there a lot longer than 90 seconds.

  216. I love how people are still calling the Patriots cheaters, in spite of more and more news coming out that says otherwise. I have laughed at some of the outrageous things reporters, journalist, fans analysis, you name it have said about this allegations, because their comments exposed them for being an absolute moron. Troy Aikman, Sal Paolantonio and Mark Brunell should never show their faces on TV again for the absurd comments they made, not to mention these “objective” New York journalist, who tried taking all the Patriot’s accomplishments away.

    This is more than just fandom or hatred. There is a difference between love to hate than hate to hate. People genuinely want to see the Patriots’ legacy from the bottom up be tarnished and destroyed forever. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, who are unanimous Hall of Famers, have put in more time and dedication to their quest than any one of these so-called journalist or fans ever have in this organization. Yet, there are not only fans but columnist and journalist who want to stain their legacy and talk down their achievements because of alleged (not even proven) deflated footballs in a 45-7 blowout.

    If the NFL found the Patriots guilty (which now seems to be a pipedream for these haters), they would have to apologize to lots of people. Will these accusers apologize? I am sure some of the classier ones will, but most of them will not.

    People say that Patriot fans are the most insufferable fanbase in the world. Surely, some of arrogant and over-the-line. However, the anti-Patriot people exposed themselves as being the bottom of the barrel, the lowest of lows in terms of sports “fans”. I’ve read some of most disgusting columns and comments this past week, and that is saying something.

  217. Interesting how they have THIS video, but the video of Ray Rice punching his ladyfriend never saw the light of day.

  218. I do not think that any NFL stadium has a Port A Potty on the field??? Maybe I’m mistaken.

    So, PFT boys…how long does it take you to go???..90 seconds sound correct? If you were going to be on field for next 2 hours, would it be a good idea to make a rest stop before hand???

    This tells me zero….Still waiting for some evidence!!!!

  219. one time, i was at the mall. i had a bag from the gap(this was freshmen year in high school, circa 1999). I had to do a pee pee. so i took the bag into the bathroom with me!!!!!!!! dunnn dunnnn dunnnnnnnnnn. nothing to see here, move on!!

    grow up!!

  220. To the people claiming that “this could be done in 90 seconds” you are seriously, pathetically grasping at straws. In your fantasy scenario, for someone to be able to effectively remove just the right amount of air pressure from each ball, they’d have to have things already set up in row right in front of them.

    But that’s not what we have here. We have a kid carrying a bulky bag of footballs into a bathroom. The clock starts there. At that point, he’s not just going to lock the door behind him, close his eyes and randomly grab footballs inside the bag to stick with a needle in a race against time. He’d have to take time to remove them one by one and put them in a row so he’d know which ones he’d already done. Then, after “deflating” each one, he’d have to put them in the bag. Hell, even without trying to deflate anything just arranging everything (presumably) on the ground would’ve taken 90 seconds in itself.

  221. Since the Patriots came up with this footage very quickly, then I wouldn’t mind seeing all the footage to see how often this ball boy had to relieve him self while having the game balls in tow.

    His adrenaline should of been so pumped up walking on the field minutes before the game started that needing to taking a piss should of been the last thing on his mind…these are fanboys, not paid professionals…oh wait…not paid…hmm…

    I just find odd that a ball boy takes 12 footballs into a bathroom because he has to suddenly pee right after the balls where inspected and 10 minutes before kickoff…Seriously…is this kid 12 years old…no…he knows the deal…you don’t take footballs that were just inspected by NFL referees into a freakin bathroom like it’s just some kind of normal thing…he should of been a normal person and said “I gotta piss” and left the balls in the room, walked down the hall took his 90 sec leak, and came back…but for some reason he got a urge to have to take a leak while delivering the footballs to be played int he AFC championship game….

  222. Or more likely this is a red herring the Patriots “discovered” in their own stadium. They know where the surveillance cameras are, and where they are not. Why would they be caught in any wrongdoing on camera?

  223. Where’s the only place you are assured of no video cameras…a bathroom (well in most places 🙂 )…so how funny a video of a ball boy draggin 12 footballs that were just inspected into a private bathroom quickly gets released by the patriots…It’s almost like it’s normal for a guy in charge of the footballs for Tom Brady to suddenly get the urge to take a leak right while he’s walking the balls to the field between the 10 minutes time the balls were inspected and kickoff…

  224. Lets see Patriots geniuses, only the Patriots balls were deflated but not the Colts. Riiiiiight.

    You fools are hilarious. Packers footballs never deflate in 0 degrees but your footballs miraculously deflated in 51 degree weather. Riiiight.

    Contrary to Krafts statement that the Patriots did nothing wrong, WRONG!. you employ the locker room attendant who takes his orders from Brady. YES YOU DID CHEAT

  225. The alternative people would have you believe is that Tom Brady, a hall of fame caliber, precision quarterback, who specifies that his balls be at 12.5 psi, and works in and hand picks every game ball, did not notice that the balls were 12% lower psi (1’5/12,5) and he hasn’t noticed this every time he played in cooler temperatures in his illustrious career. And strangely no one else noticed this over the years either.

    An Tiger would be happy playing with the driving range seconds in my bag. LOL

  226. Urinalysis of this all wrong.

    And they said Oswald couldn’t get three shots off in seven seconds.

    Jack Ruby is waiting for introduction of the perp.

  227. Pats fan here, huge homer, and clearly if he had a needle and just counted off a second or two, he could stick his hand in there and deflate those balls a little bit.

    Why couldn’t he take a whiz before picking up the balls? Hopefully this guy is a good lier.

    I’ll continue to keep faith that no way Kraft, Belichick, and Brady stick their necks out there if they knew about this… Except Brady… He seemed a bit less convincing for sure, and it’s possible he was the only one “working” with grand master pee.

    So now I’m worried again.

  228. Spygate showed us all that the Patsies are great at video taping. They must have in their possession video of all their home games showing the same process.

    Make them available as well Kraft. Unless the official line to your good bud Roger is that you destroy them. Got it.

  229. Part of the ridiculousness of this whole thing is that regardless of the outcome, both sides will believe what they want to believe.

    Pats haters will continue to hate, and supporters will remain resolute.

    I think there’s ZERO chance that the NFL will actually come up with any real evidence against the Pats, barring a surprise confession by an employee. And, frankly, without evidence of willful wrongdoing, the Pats shouldn’t be punished.

  230. The sting on the Patriots has failed. Funny how the ball that ended up in the Colts hands had the lowest pressure. Bait and switch by the team that got “blowed” out. The Colts need to be investigated……and sued by Kraft for damages inflicted

  231. “90 seconds? Maybe to deflate one or two balls, tops, but more than likely just enough time to take a leak… from a human bladder, not a pigskin.”
    not if he had a half dozen or so air pump ball inflation(deflations) needles on him.

  232. Let us not assume this was the first time this happened. This locker room attendant may have been doing this for years and is well practiced in what to do and how to do it quickly. The proceeding was Deflagate Theory #774.

  233. there easily could have been 12 “other” balls in said bathroom that were already deflated. Then a second employee comes by and gets rid of the ref checked balls. not exactly james bond type stuff to pull off

  234. People also seem to be using circular logic here to desperately maintain this conspiracy story that the Patriots deflated the balls. You’re twisting your minds into pretzels trying to justify the idea that someone who isn’t an X-man could’ve done this precision operation in that short a time-span–that you haven’t asked yourself the simple question: WHY would this kid be in such a rush to deflate the balls in under 90 seconds?

    After all, he had no reason to think that this whole story would blow up into the Kennedy Assassination. So he’d be sure to take his time to get things right, if indeed he was tasked with deflating the balls. If he was actually there to deflate the balls, he would’ve taken longer than 90 seconds simply because there’d be NO REASON to rush this.

    Think about this too. He’d have to be extremely careful to get it exactly right. Accidentally deflate the same ball twice, or deflate a ball too much and the whole jig is up. Now honestly, for something that most confirm wouldn’t give any one any real competitive advantage in the game itself, why would the Patriots try to pull off such a (literally impossible) David Copperfield feat, especially when at the time they had no reason to believe the length of this kid’s potty break would be analyzed on a national level.

    In short, they wouldn’t. And you people (and this idiot culture we live in) are looking more and more like clowns the longer you try to hang onto this fantasy.

    The most depressing part in all of this is realizing that the Simpson’s episode about the monorail was actually understating how stupid society has gotten.

  235. 90 seconds, 7.5 seconds per ball. I have to get them out of the bag, handle the pressure gauge, deflate, then back in 7.5 seconds each.

    This whole thing is ridiculous.

  236. When you have been doctoring footballs for 15 years it probably becomes quite easy to deflate 11 out of the 12 your team is about to use in 90 seconds.

    *3* Time Superbowl Champion, Tom Brady.

  237. The investigation will take several weeks… given the leaks that have come out saying that the Ravens and Colts could be involved, could this time to investigate include a review of Harbaugh and Pagano’s cell phones and email and, also, an interview with the Colts equipment manager who turned the only ball over that was 2 PSI below the minimum (it has come out that the other 10 were only about 1 PSI below)?…will they also be interviewing the officials who measured PSI of the Colts’ balls to find out how much air was in those balls at the start of the game and at the end of the game?

  238. Even if it is the case that this person deflated the balls there, there is no way that this person acted on his own. Come on, how naive can people be?

  239. Boltbacker619 i thought same thing. SportsScience posted a piece and the NFL makes them take it down in a very limited timeframe. Another reason Goodell needs to be kicked to the curb. I remember him saying they were going to be more transparent. Wrong. Same old nonsense from these jerks.

    Goodell needs to be fired immediately.

    Loved hearing Tags rip this clown again

  240. I know what does take 90 seconds. Unzip, wizz, zip up, flush, soap hands, wash hands.

    Come on… 90 seconds?

    Take at least 11 of 12 balls out of the bags, insert a pin in each one very carefully to allow only 1-2 psi out with no mistakes of letting out too much and put them all back in the bags.

    My first theory seems a bit more plausible.

    Plus there’s obviously no video in there, so how do you prove it exactly?

  241. boomgrounder says:
    Jan 27, 2015 12:13 AM
    Of course someone deflated the Patriots footballs! They deflated them to the exact psi in which Tom Brady would have preferred! They are his footballs! Of course Brady and Belichick aren’t going to admit to any wrongdoing. They are serial cheaters!

    ——-

    In 90 seconds? It took more then 90 seconds for you to write that comment.

  242. wallydippins says:
    Jan 27, 2015 12:13 AM
    How do we know that there weren’t already 2 “planted” bags in the bathroom already with the balls already deflated to Brady’s liking? Quick little switcheroo, check the hair in the mirror, and head on out.

    90 seconds

    ——–

    The balls are signed by officials

  243. grandsonofcoach says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:37 PM
    The gist of this story is actually bad for the Patriots, because it now proves there was opportunity. Where one of their employees had time alone with the footballs behind closed doors. Sorry Pats fans. This is not good news.

    ——-

    It’s not bad, it’s good. As the article says, the Patriots provided the video early in the investigation. They know about it, they aren’t worried about it. It was already known there was opportunity. The attendant for the Patriots has the balls the whole game. Is there a video of the actual deflation? No. Can you reasonably say someone could do all that in 90 seconds? No.

  244. You know no one has still explained how the colts balls checked out ok in the same game, handled by the same officials, and inflated at the same time yet the patriot ones deflated in the exact same circumstances.

    Not one. But 11.

  245. Nothing to see here…everybody takes 24 footballs with them to bathroom right or is that just the Patriots way?

  246. The remaining video shows a 3rd bag being removed roughly 15 minutes later. The old bag switch a roo!

  247. friedcalamari says:
    Jan 27, 2015 12:10 AM
    The balls were deflated, this was only time it could have happens, they have video of everything else.

    They got him… Not sure why pats fans keep forgetting the balls were deflated.

    All leaks until Monday when the nfl can cash all their advertising checks.

    Next up, what’ did he say in interview and how long has this been happening for

    ———-

    What kind of logic is that? What’s more likely… He had to go pee and he couldn’t leave the balls in the hallway or he deflated all the balls in 90 seconds. It’s nonsense.

  248. He could do it 90 seconds because he’s become good at it. Its the perfect place to do it as there are no cameras in the bathrooms. Get your FB pop a needle in it, you don’t need a gauge , 1 second will drop 2 pounds. I would guess its normal practice for them and they finally got caught.

  249. Seems this investigation is a personal vendetta against Bill Belichick. Someone in the league office needs to be fired for this. I read that an ex NY JETS president is involved. Now he is the one who should be investigated and the Pats should have the right to know their accusers as well.

  250. I thought the bags were made of mesh eliminating the need to take the balls out. Either way the magicians won’t reveal the trick.

    ‘There’s a 10-minute window where they hand those footballs off to the ballboys, and the ballboys then walk out with the officials and bring them out on the field.’

    Even if he was just taking a leak….This video shows that that protocol was broken by New England staff.

  251. If the Pats were covering it up, then why did they hand in the tape? Why not just destroy it? Because the kid took a leak and kept the footballs in sight so that nothing would happen to them. Would it have been OK if he left them in the hallway unattended for a couple minutes? He’d probably have gotten in trouble for that too.

  252. He absolutely could deflate 12 balls in 90 seconds!! He’s not deflating them all the way down. If the ball were at 12.5 psi, simply sticking a inflation needle in each ball for 1 second will easily knock the PSI down 1 lbs (yes, go try it your self) AND get all the psi’s relatively equal.

    Further, I think most of you are missing a very important fact in this whole thing. The integrity of the game and the millions of people who bet billions of dollars. Not just win or loss, but point spread, passing yards, etc. On the surface, yeah maybe this seems silly, but to me this is closer to the Black Sox scandal…those players were all banned for life.

  253. kimbo71006 says:
    Jan 27, 2015 12:35 AM
    If someone has a good answer for this, I and others would like to know…

    12 balls for each team were used in the game. Only 11 balls were under inflated and those belonged to the Patriots. None of the Colts balls were under inflated.

    So how can this be blamed on weather, temperature, atmospheric conditions?

    ——————————-

    Here’s an easy explanation.

    The league states that the footballs must be between 12.5 psi and 13.5 psi. If the Colts footballs were inflated to 13.5 psi and the Pats were inflated to 12.5 psi to begin with and the Pats footballs are now being reported to have lost only 1 psi and not 2 psi, then it stands to reason that the Colts footballs lost 1 psi and stayed within the psi range whereas the Pats footballs were below the psi range because they started at the lowest allowable limit.

    But, unless the starting and ending psi numbers are released, we won’t know. Also, if the Pats handed in under inflated footballs with instructions to pump them to 12.5 psi and the refs didn’t do this, then it’s on the refs. We need to know if the refs stuck a guage in all 36 footballs before the game and wrote down the readings or if they simply did a grab and grope test.

    And sorry, but 90 seconds (8 seconds per ball) is not enough time to dump a bag of footballs on a bathroom floor (gross), fumble for a needle to deflate the balls, deflate 11 footballs, put them back in the bag and leave. Maybe someone could do it if the footballs were lined up on a table nice and neat, but I think this kid just went to pee and didn’t want to leave the footballs unattended so he brought them in the room with him.

    A true Pats fan would have peed on the Colts footballs though.

  254. To all of you fools saying this couldn’t be done in 90 seconds…. do yourself a favor and google “Torrx pump”. With that, or a similar tool, it would be a piece of cake to deflate those balls to the desired PSI in 1.5 min. I’m sure they were fully aware that there was a video camera pointed at the bathroom and I’m betting that he was told to do it as quickly as possible too so they could use the “he was just taking a piss” excuse if anyone ever caught on. Also, there were two bags of footballs so I’m assuming the balls were already sorted by team, nice try Florio.

  255. I like how all pats fans feel exonerated now but the sad fact is the balls were still doctored. Because a story is run about a bathroom doesn’t mean that’s where it happened. Given the pats history nobody puts this past them.

  256. You Patriot fans are a bunch of CLOWNS in denial. The guy has 1 job: take the balls directly to the field. But he didn’t do that! He went into a secured, single use bathroom (and we all know it’s illegal to have cameras in bathrooms).
    ——————–

    Believe it or not, no matter how important your job is in life, urinating is an essential part of life. Even the people who have the keys to the nuclear bomb step away from the desk and go to the bathroom. Apparently by your comments you seem to think bringing balls onto the field of a national football league game is as important of a job as you can get, but he probably still wanted to go to the bathroom before he was on the field for the next 2 hours. Seem to make sense to me.

  257. Gotta love the morons with their extra bag of balls in the bathroom explanation. Hey geniuses if there’s video of him going into the potty don’t you think there would be video of someone putting 11 under inflated balls in the bathroom, or someone taking the properly inflated balls out of the bathroom? I was looking for PFT but accidentally walked into a Mensa meeting. And 90 sec huh? To perfectly deflate 11 balls? Remove each one from the bag deflate it and put it back, really? In 90 seconds? And what if he screwed up with this big a game on the line, what if he took too much out and screwed up Brady, do you really think they would take that chance in 90 seconds? If the video showed him going into a trainers room for 5 min im no longer a skeptic, but if this is Rogers “smoking gun” than the NFL screwed the pooch.

  258. Oh, I’m going to love hearing the Patriot hating conspiracy theorists convince themselves that the attendant perfectly deflated 11 balls in 90 seconds when he had no reason to believe he was in a rush

    You know what else could perfectly deflate 11 balls while the other 12 balls kept out of the elements maintained their weight?

    Basic physics

    The one other ball that was subject to game play of course behaved differently as well.

    End of story? Nope. Everyone is too jealous

  259. Thank you ball boy for making a new minute to win it challenge. They can use 6 footballs and it will never happen. Get over deflategate and move on to the Super Bowl already. Stop wasting our time.

  260. I don’t understand how a rational Pats fan continues to defend this team?

    I am sure Brady & Belichick were smart enough not to text/email this employee when telling him to fudge with the balls, eliminating and trace of connection with him. Therefore, no hard evidence will be found and the lone gunman theory will stand. However, we will all know that they got cheating yet again.

  261. If they have done this for years, I am quite sure the equipment manager has gotten really good at this. 90 Seconds is probably plenty of time.

  262. Of course he could deflate them in 90 seconds, he’s had a lot of practice. The can be solved with tape from previous games. If the same dude is take a leak in the same bathroom every game, then I think we have a rat.

  263. BUSTED!!!!!

    It’s going to be a loooooong week for the Patriots and their pathetic fans scrambling for excuses.

  264. The ” cheat switch” started at the second half of the playoffs Ravens game. Its obvious.
    Pats got away with it and pulled the “strategy with the Colts, (really didn’t need it) .
    I say disqualify New England for cheating and have the Baltimore Ravens vs. Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLIX
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  265. The footballs were tampered with, period.
    Tom Brady looks guilty as sin up there every time he takes the stand. This team has been caught cheating before..
    A person that is responsible for these footballs took them into a room without cameras. Do you honestly believe he didn’t have this process down to a science? Were you born yesterday? The Patriots are cheaters – that ball boy was instructed to do this, and deep down you all know it.

    YOU NEW ENGLANDERS ARE SKETCHY PEOPLE.

  266. icabodslip says:Jan 27, 2015 5:22 AM

    Only knuckle-draggers watch football.
    ==============================

    What do you call people who access and type in comments on a web site for knuckle-draggers?

  267. question is there video tape showing this ball boy stopping
    at the same bathroom for the Ravens playoff game taking
    the balls into the bathroom
    if there is then I think we might have are fall guy

  268. Leave it to Pats fans to say he peed on the balls. What a demented bunch of people. More than the owner and coach. Their intelligence level is insulting. They deserve spy-gate and whatever other gate you can think of. I still say this is to cover up Hernandez-gate.

  269. honeybadger14 says:
    Jan 27, 2015 7:57 AM

    I thought the bags were made of mesh eliminating the need to take the balls out. Either way the magicians won’t reveal the trick.

    ‘There’s a 10-minute window where they hand those footballs off to the ballboys, and the ballboys then walk out with the officials and bring them out on the field.’

    Even if he was just taking a leak….This video shows that that protocol was broken by New England staff.
    ——————————————————-
    They’re “focusing” on a guy who stopped to take a 90 second pee. If they had anything else, where is it?

    And “Protocol?” Show me in the rule book where it says the guy can’t stop to take a pee before going out to the field?

    He’s not carrying a live organ – its a bunch of footballs!

    This whole thing is beyond absurd.

  270. uh oh, some poor sap who couldnt afford a mistake is about to be the fall guy…I just hope Brady compensates him properly

  271. Worth noting, is that this was some local kid (employed by the NFL, not the Patriots), who brought the balls out. Not some seasoned equipment manager working for the Patriots for years.

  272. So 90 seconds is not a long time to deflate balls but it can be done if you are experienced at it. I would like to know how someone who knows they will be transporting balls like that doesn’t take his pee break BEFORE he goes and gets those balls. I’m sorry, he is not some 70 year old that has an urgent problem. He either does it before or after, not in the middle of his job.

  273. Ha ha ha. The media outlets reported this and now they have fecal matter all over their faces. The dude took a leak.

    The video was supplied by the Patriots organization.

    It takes about 30 seconds to open the bag I bet.

    Wow! No wonder Kraft is now demanding an apology. I think most of America owes the Patriots an apology.

    It’s never been finer to be a Patriots fan.

  274. So much for the refs having control of the game balls! This just makes the NFL look even worse! Did the refs really just hand over both bags of balls to a locker room dude without an escort to the field??? Personally, I think the guy was probably just taking a leak. If the balls started at 12.5 psi and he had let even just 1 psi of air out of the balls, then they would have gone to the field at 11.5 and would have been under 10 psi by halftime between the colder air and rain (It was about 46 degrees at the half). There’s no question that EVERY NFL team that has ever played in a cold weather or poor weather game has played with balls that are underinflated. The NFL just never knew it because nobody ever thought about the effects of temperature and water before! It’s not a big deal … not like the quarterbacks are throwing NERF balls even if they’re at 10 psi. Ever throw a cold ball? It feels hard as a rock anyway!

  275. I’m of the opinion the guy was just taking a piss as 90 seconds seems far too short to alter the footballs.

    Congrats to the NFL for bungling yet another incident.

  276. all depends on how drunk he was… I’ve been totally hammered, and took like what seemed to be a 5 minute piss… and I’ve also been sober and took 30 second pee’s!

  277. neallday says:
    Jan 26, 2015 11:38 PM
    It’s easy for the bitter, jealous haters to call them cheaters without an ounce of proof.
    ————————————
    An ounce of proof?! really… Haha- there is about 2 lbs psi in 11 or 12 footballs that “something” happened to the Pats balls and not the Colts. Must be weird Science

  278. The other factor with this 90 second clock is how nobody would have ever thought this to be a huge problem. For all of the people who believe that the Patriots have been doing this for years, do you think a ball boy is thinking, boy I better do this as quickly as possible so I don’t get caught taking air out of a ball? Come on now. He’s in a bathroom with winter gear on, my concern is that you can hear a slight cold in Tom Brady’s voice. Did this kid wash his hands?

  279. Push back by Patriot apologists screaming about how innocent the Patriots are is funny as can be. 85 percent of people think the Patriots are cheating cheaters who cheat and you aren’t going to be able to indignantly huff and puff your way out of that.

  280. Can’t wait for Kraft to sue the hell out of every entity involved in this smear campaign. I would love to see losers like Mortensen and Glazer lose their jobs and have to file bankruptcy. It would be some kind of justice 😈

  281. If you find yourself legitimately using the phrase “according to Warren Sapp’s statistical analysis,” you are reaching for justification. Think about that phrase for a minute. “Warren Sapp’s statistical analysis.”

  282. My son races karts and we use a gauge that gives pressure between 0 and 15 psi along with a button for quick pressure release. We always over inflate the tires by about a pound at our pit then use this to put them where we want on the grid before pulling onto the track.

    With this you can do all 24 balls in 90 seconds, no problem. The balls are already inflated. You are inserting the needle, pressing the button for half a second, checking pressure until it is right. Takes about 3-5 seconds a ball. Sounds like they did 11. If the bag was mesh you wouldn’t even need to remove the balls.

  283. I think the NFL is milking this the best they can. Creating publicity….. how many thousands of comments and views? I wager they know they have nothing on the Pats (and no, Pats haters, I am not a Pats fan) and are slowly leaking bits of info to make it look like they are doing something so as not to look bad. Continue milking til after Super Bowl. I still would like to see a “scientific study,” not anecdotal, to show what positive impact on performance a ball at 10.5 or 11.5psi (additional leaks seem to say the 11.5 was closed on most balls) has over a 12.5psi ball. At the speed the game is played, I would be surprised if any real performance issue exists. Kicking, I understand and those are separate and marked as kicking balls. There is a difference in being outside specs and gaining a competitive advantage.

  284. I love the fact that people think that just because you didnt see “anyone” do anything or no one admits to knowing anything then it didnt happen…. Apparently my apartment wasn’t robbed then either because, no one say anything or knew anything but my stuff was gone.

  285. If a Pats employee had both the Patriots balls and the Colts balls then someone should have the NFL’s balls in a vice. If this is such a big deal why would you have the home team employee be in charge of the visiting teams balls? And where is the video of the ref’s using a pressure guage to check the balls?

  286. This poor ball boy, he will be skewered. If I was him, I would get a lawyer, book agent and appearance manager right now. Cash the eff in. People say boy like he is 12, I bet he is in his 20s. Rumor has it that every time Belichick hear’s this guys name he mutters “cement shoes” to himself.

  287. Let me make sure I get this right. The Patriots as well as all the other teams, have a payroll that exceeds $100 Million. In addition they have highly paid coaches, scouts, personnel execs and more. They are playing in a championship game with the winner going to the Superbowl and they devote countless hours of practice and preparation for the big game. BUT the key is they need a kid, who may for all we know may be a part time employee, take the Patriot’s footballs into a room and precisely let air out in record time. In addition, the employee would have no reason to think he has to hurry but he does it in 90 seconds anyway and everything is exactly right.

    In addition this employee, would have to have the ability to stand up under intense questioning and not crack under pressure because the amount of pressure is enormous. I am assuming that the employee is really a former special forces guy or maybe ex CIA because it surely isn’t some ordinary part-time locker room kid who has already been questioned by the NFL but nothing inappropriate was found.

    In addition, Belichick would be risking his job, legacy and more by emphatically stating he is 100% certain that the Patriots followed the rules to the letter. the hours and hours of preparation didn’t matter by all the players and staff, they need to rely on a locker-room attendant.

    As we all know Belichick is always prepared and he stated that they did their own investigation which would include speaking with the part-time locker room employee (former commanding General in SEAL Team 6?). So Belichick instead of keeping quiet comes out and says that nothing was done and above all he knows that the part-time locker room employee (EX-KGB assassin?) with never talk no matter what. he would rather take cyanide. especially for the $200 to $300 game he makes.

    The other explanation was that the kid went to the bathroom to pee. Sounds right to me.

  288. I KNEW IT! I told everyone yesterday the ballboy went to take a leak, and guess what – he went to take a leak!

    This is so absurd that detractors will be doubly steamed and will double-down on their hatred for the Pats and insist they must have cheated because they got fined for taping on the sidelines several years ago.

  289. I don’t understand it, but clearly the NFL wants to cause problems for the Patriots. Why else would they leak (no pun intended) that the ball boy took the inspected balls “to another area on way to field” before the start of the game instead of saying he stopped into the bathroom for ~90 seconds on his way out to the cold, rainy, ball field where he would spend the next ~1.5 hours? This whole “scandal” has been created by the NFL from the “sting” operation to the selectively reported “leaks.”

  290. To the Patriots fans saying that this seals the deal, it doesn’t.
    The questions remain, who told him to do that? Why did he do it? Deflating Footballs so precisely and to deflate 11/12 of them… That was to secure some type of advantage. This does not clear the coaching staff, nor the players.
    Kraft can demand his apology but the Patriots are a very shady organization. Your Super Bowls will always have an asterisk by them in the minds of the fans.

    But, to look at this from another perspective, the NFL has secured it’s tv ratings. More people will be watching now to see the Patriots lose, whereas they were probably worried it would be a snooze fest with the Patriots again.

  291. Is it possible that Luck likes his footballs inflated to the max just like Rogers and Brady. likes his deflated to the minimum? If so, after being checked in colder than ambiant temps would make the Patriots footballs under 12.5 while the Colts balls would be over 12.5 Good thing this game wasn’t played in Miami.

  292. pftdeletesallcommentsbecausetheyrebabies says:
    Jan 27, 2015 8:51 AM

    And “Protocol?” Show me in the rule book where it says the guy can’t stop to take a pee before going out to the field?

    ————
    I thought I just did when I said protocol was for refs escorting him out to the field. If I’m this ball boy and am walking with the officials I say…’I gotta squirt can you hang onto these balls for a sec.’

  293. 1) no 90 secs is not enough time to deflate 12 balls
    2) no 90 secs is not enough time to pee and wash hands
    3) that toilet paper dispenser seems awfully high for a handicapable person to use

  294. those lyin stealin cheatin Pats only hire ball boys with small bladders so they have an excuse to slip into a bathroom for 90 seconds before a game and deflate 12 balls by exactly the same amount.

    Good thing for the Pats my wife wasn’t the ball boy, she is never in the bathroom for less than 5 minutes

    What a friggin joke.

  295. The Patriots fans are so pathetic still making excuses. They’re now saying “maybe he needed to use the bathroom”. Yeah and he just happened to take 24 footballs with him. It was a tiny single toilet bathroom. No cameras and no witnesses. It takes 2 seconds per ball to deflate with a gauge. So that’s less than half minute! That’s why I can’t stand Patriots fans. But I’m in heaven now because I know win or lose they’ll be known are cheaters for years to come. As for the equipment attendant, he will do what Shady Brady and Belicheat did – – deny, deny, deny. Nonetheless, I’m pulling out my spygate shirt for the superbowl and will soon get my deflategate hat. Ha!

  296. What I really want to know is: WHO told Glazer that a video revealed a Pats employee taking the balls to “another area,” WITHOUT telling him it was a bathroom for 90 seconds on a video the Patriots themselves submitted. THAT is a “person of interest.”

  297. Thats pretty sick man and I do not want to see that video… Just want to know how does 13 guys fit in that small bathroom.. All of that and he finishes taking those balls in 90 seconds.

  298. All of this is a red herring. THE REFS NEVER CHECKED THE BALLS! They are lying about them being at normal pressure when they checked. The Patriots are most likely to give them underinflated balls to be reviewed and selected by the refs. Brady likes his balls underinflated ( like Aaron Rogers likes his overinflated) and the equipment people know this and will fill those balls to a lower level without ever checking the pressure–every ball they submit will likely be to Brady’s liking and to AaronRogers. The refs likely never check the pressure and stamped the balls that felt and looked the best. They were underinflated all along and they would never admit they never tested those balls–they would be fired. We should have heard the refs state that they had to inflate some or all the balls the Patriots submitted to get to a normal level and they would not forget having inflated those balls–they never checked 48+ balls–tedious and they think they know what a an acceptable ball feels like. No mystery just another example of people not doing their job properly and getting caught.

  299. Maybe he just had to use the john. But it seems odd that a Patriot employee would take charge of the Colts balls from the referees. Don’t the Colts have somebody who’d do that? Seems like the NFL was pretty lax about how the footballs were being handled. Either have two separate sets the teams take full responsibility for or have a single set.

  300. Isn’t it relatively easy to prove if this happened? When deflating a ball, what do you need: Just a simple needle, but before you put it in the ball, what to do you? Most people I know LICK the needle and then put it into the ball. Especially if they are in a hurry. That should mean there is DNA evidence inside the rubber valve of the ball.

    If you cut open the valves of the balls and swab them, it should be relatively simple to determine whether any of them have DNA matching this employee.

    This seems like a relatively straight forward answer. Way easier than tracking down an elevator video.

  301. I love it.

    All of the “Pats cheated” posts are from Seattle fans. No conflict of interest there. LOL

    I find it extremely ironic that Seattle fans call the Patriots “cheaters” based on spygate years ago. They conveniently forget that a group of their own players were fined and suspended for cheating just a few years ago. They were taking PEDs which influences the game far more than deflating balls.

    So Seattle fans conveniently ignore their own team’s cheating and instead point the finger at the Pats.

    Brilliant!

  302. So food for thought. Ben Jarvis green elis had 510 carries as a patriot with 0 fumbles. He goes to cincinnati has 498 carries and fumbles 5 times. His first ever fumble was against the redskins and the next week he fumbles twice. After the game was asked if his confidence has dropped and he says he needs to get back the grip he had in new england, this being his first year as a bengals …

  303. This one couldn’t be any easier to figure out.

    All they need to do is check tapes from other games and see if the same guy goes into the same bathroom every game carrying bags of footballs.

    If so, slam dunk guilty verdict.

    Do you think they haven’t already thought of this?

    They’ve probably already looked at them.

    The NFL will not real ease any smoking gun evidence until the game is over because it will put the league is a spot. They will HAVE TO act.

    They’ll stall the process until Monday at the earliest.

    Then they’ll strike.

    Same guy / Same detour / Same scenario

    Guilty.

    The best part is – even if they DON’T have multiple tapes of this henchman, it doesn’t clear the PATS.

  304. I can see it now…new NFL rules. All ball boys are to bring the balls onto the field from Refs room. They have 89 seconds of leeway. If they plan to take more than 90 seconds, they are to bring a ref with them.

  305. OK time to put the piss boy on a lie detector….and if you won’t do it then well NFL you have your answer.

    Also to the 3 little pigs from NE…..if you want people to believe what you are saying during your press conferences then efing stop reading what your PR director wrote for you. Look into the camera and state your case not at a piece of paper.

  306. Growing up, just north of Boston, in the 1970s and 80s, we didn’t have computers or video games; we played outside – for hours. Baseball, Basketball, Street Hockey, Football – my friends and I played them all.

    My favorite sport was football. I enjoyed them all, but tackle football was special to me. I loved the physicality of the game – running hard, tackling, diving or leaping for balls, running with the ball – over, around, through people – loved it ALL!

    But there was something else. The other games were dependent on weather. Not football. Weather was not a factor when it came to football…weather couldn’t hinder our plans; our desire to play. We played football on hot, humid days in late summer; on clear, crisp autumn days in early fall and, as the season progressed, we played on rainy, cold and raw days. Then, in late fall and into winter – December, January, February, even into March – we played on days when both the ground and sky were white with snow. Sometimes there would be 12 to 15 inches of snow on the ground and more falling. And it was cold: 20 degrees or less. Colder with the wind chill. But, with football, it did not matter. Weather was never a factor. It would not dictate whether we would play football or how long we would play – we were going to play. For hours.

    I can remember, as if it were yesterday, my phone would ring and I would pick up the receiver and it would be my friend, Gregg, calling. He would hear the phone picked up on the other end and he wouldn’t even wait for a “Hello”. He would just say, “You ready, Animal? (that’s what he called me) Let’s go, the others are waiting”.

    Oftentimes, in the fall months and more frequently, in the winter months, when Gregg called to play football, whether he was meeting me at my house or we were going to meet at whatever field or yard we were playing at, before he hung up the phone, he would say, ”…don’t forget your pump.”

    Sometimes, the ball would just lose air.

  307. its clear by many of the posts here that many of you don’t have a good sense of time. 11 balls were deflated by approximately 2 psi.. “approximately” not exactly (at least I’m unable to find any reference to this) If the guy was in the bathroom for 90 seconds, that is just a tad over 8 seconds per ball. If you count that out.. One one thousand, two one thousand.. etc. you will quickly see how much time 8 seconds really is. The whole process of taking a ball from a bag and placing an open needle in to let some air out and putting the ball back in took just under 6 seconds. less time would be needed if you just left the balls in the bag while deflating them. would make sense why one was missed.

  308. Perhaps he had to take the balls into the bathroom because the bag was handcuffed to his wrist (as per “THE PROTOCOL”).

  309. The Pats never deflated any balls. I believe there was a second bag of 12 balls ready to go that were all prepared a day or two before to be exactly 2lbs. below the legal limit. There is not enough time to do this with precision on the sideline or at half time. Belichick and Brady are telling the truth when they say no balls were deflated because a set was prepared ahead of time. The NFL needs to figure out how the Pats made the switch.

  310. Why does everyone assume it was pee that he got on the balls? Maybe he meant to get a certain other bodily fluid on them instead, to make them nice and sticky for Brady – only to realize he could only do it once (hence the one ball out of 12 that wasn’t under-inflated). For all we know, the deflating might have just been Plan B.

  311. THe only way that this can be called a smoking gun is if the video catches the guy carrying a needle and gauge/pump into the bathroom with the balls.

    Of course, if this was planned out, the gauge and needle would be in the bag with the balls.

    90 seconds would be enough time if everything went perfectly. I was bored and tried it at home (disclaimer: I was not in a bathroom). I was able to grab a ball, insert the needle and reduce the pressure in about 5 seconds. 12 balls could be done in about 50-90 seconds easily if the guy had the right equipment or if he was good at it.

  312. positivelybirth says:
    Jan 27, 2015 1:17 PM

    This one couldn’t be any easier to figure out.

    All they need to do is check tapes from other games and see if the same guy goes into the same bathroom every game carrying bags of footballs.

    If so, slam dunk guilty verdict.
    ——————————————————

    You’d make a lousy prosecuting attorney.

    Gee. How out of the ordinary. A guy that is about to go out on the field for the next couple of hours stops to pee before he leaves the locker room for each game.

    I’ll bet that MOST players and coaches do the exact same thing every game. Who wouldn’t pee before going out on the field? It’s not as if they can easily leave once the game has started. They all have jobs to do. Smoking gun? LOL. “Your Honor, the man went in the bathroom before EVERY game. He must be guilty.”

    Do you have kids? Do you ever travel with them anywhere? We always ask the kids to pee right before we leave. Otherwise, we have to stop many times during the trip.

  313. i don’t know why so many people think the patriots are the favored team for sunday. i think seattle will slaughter them almost as much as they did to denver…new england may be able to hold russell wilson a little better than denver did, but to me, i dont see the patriots offense scoring more than one touchdown…that is of course if richard sherman and earl thomas are healthy.

  314. 90 seconds? Must have been participating in a fastest pee contest? I wouldn’t shake his hand either.

    However, 8 seconds per ball deflated seems pretty doable with a gauge.

  315. It is absolutely possible to deflate 12 balls in 90 seconds. They sell automatic tire deflators for 4-wheelers that run in the sand. I have 4 of them and use them simultaneously to reduce air pressure to a preset amount just before 4-wheeling on the beach.

    The Patriots can afford 12 of these. They are quite small and if you pop one into each ball, you can remove 2lbs of air pressure in no time. Each one fashioned with a needle can indeed do the job within the 90 seconds in question.

  316. How long has that ball-boy been on this job?
    He knew there were no cameras in the bathroom.
    Wouldn’t he have known (as part of his job) to take a pee before taking the footballs from the refs?
    Why is the official so lazy he could not carry the footballs himself? The official turned a blind eye because he knew this ball-boy was the weakest link in the chain of control and allowed him to go unsupervised with the footballs to the field. Ball-boy is getting paid the least and the official knew his responsibility was for those balls (why else was it important for him to weigh them?).
    I could have deflated 11 footballs in 90 seconds. The one football was left untampered because that was the first one given to the official by the ball-boy so as to complete the deception that they had appeared fine. The balls at half-time were fine because, by then, it was obvious the officials were scrutinizing and nobody wanted to get caught.

  317. Did any of you people ever hold a football? With a pressure gauge – which I’m sure he had – he could very easily deflate 11 balls in “about 90-seconds” (which could have been 100). What – you think this was the first time he’d done this? All of you doubters – count to 90, correctly. It’s a long longer than you think. The balls are in a bag – one is already marked so it WON’T be deflated (the kicking ball). If you don’t think you could pick a ball out of a bag, stick in a gauge for 3-seconds to release 2 psi, set that ball down, and do another – 11 times in under 2-minutes, then you either lack coordination or brains. He had to work fast so he wouldn’t get caught. And “practice make perfect.” GUILTY AS CHARGED. Fines, suspensions and loss of draft picks to come.

  318. Headline needs to be changed to Tom’s piss balls 2015 then strip him of any great accomplishments just like all the other supposedly great athletes that have cheated. This is America he’s guilty now prove your innocent!!!

  319. ztigr says:

    Ahhh the NFL MEMORIES::::::

    Raiders = cheating coaches out of bonuses,
    Chargers = illegal use of stickum,
    Bengals = cheerleader sex with minor,
    Buccaneers = targeted by DEA for pain killer violations,
    Panthers= steroids,
    Dolphins=racism,
    Cowboys=salary cap violations,
    Redskins=salary cap violations, tampering
    49er=salary cap violations, DEA investigating Painkillers
    Jets=tampering (over and over)
    Steelers=Steroids and coach tripping
    Saints=bountygate
    Bills=pimping out cheerleaders,
    Colts=junkie owner,
    Ravens= Ray Rice video and Ray Lewis murdering,
    Broncos = salary cap violations,
    Falcons = Dog killers
    Browns = criminal owner and texting sideline,
    Vikings = Love Boat and kid abuse,
    Seahawks = NCAA rule breaking coach , DEA investigating pain killers
    Giants= faking injuries,
    Chiefs = bugged coaches offices,
    Eagles= substituted dry footballs for kicker illegally,
    Packers = Brette Favre painkiller addiction, Rodgers over-inflated balls

    ___________________________________

    Nice list, although you left some out… Namely the Patriots:

    Patriots = “The Snowplow Game”…”The Locker room “Patriots Missiles” incident… at least 1 positive HGH test… “Spygate”… and now “Deflategate”.

    Every team has skeletons… Every team has warts.
    If you are going to list those for the other teams, make sure you list your team’s lowlights, too.

  320. Oops!
    Forgot to mention for the Patriots:

    The Tuck Rule game and the Aaron Hernandez mess

    The Patriots seem to have more shameful incidents than any other team, huh?

  321. There may be some validity to this article. There are new video footages of Osama Bin Ladin taking the footballs, as he tip-e-toed to the bathroom to deflate them. Terror alert elevated to red again! If you notice any strange, unintended & unidentified looking footballs in the area, notify the authorities immediately. There are new videos of Bin Ladin’s threats to deflate more footballs in future Super Bowls. These videos are set to be released within the next couple of days, leading up to the Super Bowl. Stay tuned.

  322. I’m sure if the guy left the bag in the hall while he whizzed and somebody came by and saw the bag of balls sitting in the hall he would catch hell for it. They were his responsibility. I’m sure he never imagined he would have to explain keeping them where he could see them.

  323. I am stunned right now. There are people actually trying to defend this guy’s actions? If you all are serious you have to be delusional or complete idiots. I keep reading that he took the balls in the bathroom to avoid ten being tampered with. Well….he failed there. I haven’t read anything that says he should have had the balls in the first place. Am I missing something? Should he have had his and the other teams balls after they were inspected? You people do realize that it is a fact that 11 of 12 patriots balls were under inflated? And this happened after they were inspected…fact. To say he couldn’t deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds is ignorant. You have never played sports and you have no clue what you’re talking about. You can stick an open needle in a football for 3 Secs and lose at least 2 PSI. 3 secs x 11 balls 33 seconds. That leaves an extra minute. You sound foolish if you say 90 seconds isn’t enough time…….Again.. . …..WHY DID THIS GUY HAVE POSSESSION of BOTH TEAMS BALLS????? The comments I’m reading imply that he was supposed to have the balls and he should have removed them from the OFFICIALS LOCKER ROOM!!

  324. It’s hard to justify deflating all the footballs in 90 seconds which is what most of you are thinking.

    Hide 12 balls in the drop ceiling of the bathroom beforehand then swap all of the balls for doctored deflated footballs.

    Easy to do in 90 seconds.

  325. Gotta love the tin foil hat conspiracy crowd. Everytime I hear these stupid balls in the ceiling and bathroom re-enactments all I hear in my head is the Mission Impossible theme song.

    The festering hate will explode into an all consuming meltdown when NE wins. It will be glorious.

  326. By far the most obvious explanation is this

    (1) Brady submitted the balls he liked. He admits he prefers a lighter ball in his press conference. The balls he submitted were probably lighter than 12.5 psi, but he does not check them. He goes by feel.

    (2) The game officials “properly checked” the balls but DID NOT record their measurements or pressure test all 52 balls with a gauge (12 Pats balls, 12 Colts balls, 12 back up balls, 16 kicking balls). A report yesterday confirmed this info (that balls were not tested by gauge)

    (3) The Patriots and Colts balls both further lost pressure due to atmospheric conditions. Because the Patriots balls were lighter to begin with, they were about 1-1/5 psi below limits by halftime (up to 1 psi for 10/12 balls, 1 at 2 psi below).

    This is an Exceedingly SIMPLE, logical and fully consistent with everything observed explanation for what happened. This is Occums Razor. The Patriots know it, that is why they risked their professional reputations to defend themselves. The League knows it that is why they are dragging heels on investigation to save face.

    In no way can some far reaching, risky and exceedingly covert conspiracy be considered a simple explanation for what has been observed.

    Poor adherence to league protocol, atomospheric conditions and measurment error. It fits all the objective facts known about this case like a glove. These three things are all expected, reproducible and common, in any situation.

    Anything beyond this is PURE FAN FICTION by Patriot haters and conspiracy theorists. Case closed.

    A vast, dangerous, complicated conspiracy theory, or a simple, realistic common sense explanation?

  327. I can’t believe how many here are running with a hidden bag of balls in the bathroom evil conspiracy! First of all, there would also be video of someone delivering the bag to the bathroom before the switch. Second, it’s a tiny bathroom; if you read what Florio wrote your would know it “consists of one toilet and one sink” which doesn’t leave any place to hide a dozen footballs. Third, if the bag was there waiting to be switched, someone would have seen it. Fourth, the balls are marked by Walt Anderson when he approves them; did the Patriots employ an forger too? And fifth, what became of the bag left in the bathroom after the switch? There would be video of someone retrieving it. Ninjas coming through the ceiling?

  328. Don’t you Patriot fans have anything better to do. You all act like you don’t care, but it is obvious that your here reading every story about this.

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