NFL didn’t log the PSI of each Patriots football

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What was the precise PSI of each of the 12 footballs the Patriots’ offense used in the AFC Championship Game? We’ll probably never know.

NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino confirmed today that the NFL didn’t log the exact PSI of each football. According to Blandino, when officials inspect footballs to see if they’re properly inflated, they simply approve them or disapprove them.

In other words, although the Patriots did play with under-inflated footballs, the NFL hasn’t kept detailed records of whether those footballs were slightly under-inflated (which could be the result of a change in temperature) or significantly under-inflated (which would indicate that someone purposely let air out of the footballs).

The NFL will apply a low standard of proof to the Deflategate investigation, which means that the NFL doesn’t necessarily need an air-tight case to conclude that the Patriots broke the rules. But anyone who wants the NFL to get to the bottom of this should want the NFL to be as careful as it possibly can to preserve every piece of evidence it possibly can. And a detailed log of the inflation levels of each football is a piece of evidence the NFL should have.

255 responses to “NFL didn’t log the PSI of each Patriots football

  1. You mean Mort was WRONG about 2 psi under? Color me not shocked-this whole thing has been an embarrassing farce, the league should be ashamed it let this go on so long.

  2. This is how absurd this is: Even the NFL didn’t think it was important enough (to actually do due diligence) until it involved the Patriots.
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    No: Even when it involved the Patriots, they could be bothered.

  3. I don’t understand how within a whole 60 minutes of the NFL refs touching the footballs every play didn’t get brought into play. It’s the NFL’s own fault and the refs should be blamed and take the brunt of the blame. If a coach can get away with something in the NFL without being noticed by the refs (i.e. 12 men on the field) then why blame the coach. I don’t care if its Bill Belichick or Lovie Smith or Tom Coughlin doesn’t make a difference. The refs spotted those deflated balls all game…..if they were even deflated intentionally in the first place!

  4. it seems like they have no proof and nothing to go on. they can’t possibly penalize the Pats when the Refs can’t actually say what the balls were at to start with. the nfl and the refs messed up more than anyone here and the investigation should be on themselves and how they don’t follow their own rules.

    Rodger should go.

  5. So the NFL doesn’t know what PSI the balls started at, but Mort somehow knows they were down 2 PSI. The NFL continue to be purposefully vague about how the balls were checked pre-game. The NFL has zero idea how many hundreds of games have been played with underinflated balls. They know absolutely nothing other than it’s the Patriots. And that’s more than enough for most.

    No witch hunt going on here, folks. Not at all. Trial by media? No way! Keep your outrage coming.

  6. Equally important, the League has no data on the PSI level of Colts balls at the start. There simply cannot be any fair determination here without knowing start and end PSIs for both teams’ balls and the conditions under which initial inflation, later exposures, and further measurements occurred.

    It just is not a huge surprise. This was not a sting, it was a hastily launched, standardless inquisition — which set off an unfair media firestorm and veritable witch hunt. Incompetence, big time. The usual for the Goodell regime.

  7. He also said that he tested and the refs couldn’t tell the difference between 12 and 13 PSI and was said Walt Anderson “gauged the balls” pregame and avoided saying he actually used a gauge. That’s lawyer talk for he squeezed them. So he squeezed them and couldn’t tell the difference between 1 PSI when tested. He also completely shut down Florio’s sting theory. Mort also apparently retracted to 1 PSI under. Good job, good effort, media.

  8. So there you have it. They may or may not get fined $25,000 for having played with underinflated balls, but anything more severe than that would seem excessive given they can’t prove what the balls lost in pressure. No starting point means they need a confession and that ain’t happening.

  9. First, I read the balls were a full 2 psi under.

    Then, I read the balls were closer to 1 psi under.

    Now I read … “we don’t know how far under they were.”

    I can’t believe I’m reading this.

    We don’t have evidence, but that’s ok. We don’t need much. We’re applying a “low standard of proof.”

  10. Didn’t log them because they check them with their hands not an air gauge . Patriots are completely innocent and should get draft picks as compensation .

  11. The Pats should show up at inspection before the Super Bowl with a bag of completely deflated footballs. Since according to the NFL rule book it is up to the refs to make sure the balls are properly inflated.

  12. The NFL acts as though they are conducting a thorough investigation into the truth, but the reality just falls hopelessly short of the goal-line. This from a billion dollar league, hard to imagine it is based on incompetence but I don’t know? Oh well, looking forward to the game:) Just spare us the “integrity” talk & the kangaroo court, don’t bring up under-inflated balls in the AFC championship & there is no problem. I hope that a ball boy is not thrown under the bus as a result, that would be disappointing…

  13. never logged the Colts balls, either….so we have no idea how much theirs dropped down.
    Blandino still won’t say whether Walt Anderson used an actual pressure gauge….just that he ‘gauged the balls”, which could mean anything.
    Heck of a screwed up investigation there, NFL….

  14. The pre-game weighing of the balls is done simply to ensure the balls fall within the 12.5-13.5 psi range, as dictated by the rules. If they do, they’re marked by the referee as acceptable for use.

    The exact weight of each of the 24 balls – whether it is 12.5, or 12.7 or 13.2 or 13.4 psi is irrelevant. The only relevancy is the 12.5 to 13.5 psi range, and that is confirmed by the referee’s mark on the ball. New England fans won’t accept that actual logic of course.

  15. If you want to see how NFL officials check the air pressure, on Google search for:

    mmqb officials check air pressure

    Click the first link.

    Not exactly a military operation here folks.

    “12.5. Close enough!” (throws the ball to the next official)

  16. The same standard should be applied to the Colts. The only ball found to be 2 psi below limits was the one handled by the Colts equipment manager. The other ten not in their posession were only 1 psi low. The Colts should be fined and lose picks for tampering!

  17. This does not mean Mort was wrong. He said they were 2 psi below the minimum, meaning 10.5psi. according to this report the nfl doesn’t know exactly how much they dropped.
    and as it is said the league doesn’t necessarily need to know. the conviction that is being sought is not that of a court of law, but rather of a parent who punishes a child for doing something that is strongly suspected.

    i wouldn’t expect the nfl to log the exact psi before any game even if this were a sting.

    the main, significant detail remains, which is that the 11/12 patriot balls were (apparently 2 psi or near that) below minimum and the colts balls were still within regulation. and we have the strange matter of a patriot attendant carrying the balls to the bathroom because he just had to go right then…

  18. Let’s see how well the Patriots held onto the ball both before and after the 2006 season, which happened to be the year Brady and Peyton Manning pushed for a rule change which allowed each team to provide their own footballs for games.

    According to calculations, the Patriots’ fumble rate was 42 touches per fumble from 2000 through 2006. That was about the league average. Since 2007, however, that rate has dropped dramatically, to 74 touches per fumble. Over that time, the Pats are the best team in the NFL at holding onto the ball, even including dome teams.

    That’s what I thought.

  19. Simple answer really. Ask for the logs from all the teams this year. Including playoff teams. If none kept logs then all is fine. If all but one doesn’t have a log, you have a potential problem.

    Can we be done with this already?

  20. I love revisionist history… things get twisted up thru the blogosphere so much that I can’t help but laugh!!!

    1.) not knowing the exact pressure doesn’t mean they didn’t use a gauge… “12.5, it’s good” done. How long do you think that takes

    2.) Mort’s report was that the balls were 2lbs “under” the limit, not that they were 2lbs lower than the pregame test.

    That all being said, if this really was a sting by the NFL, they should have captured as much data as possible. Hard to make a case when you have half the information. But, like a civil lawsuit, showing burden of proof isn’t that difficult.

  21. i wouldn’t expect the nfl to log the exact psi before any game even if this were a sting.
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    Then you’re a fool.

    If you’re running a sting you collect all the evidence possible.

  22. Kraft isn’t stupid. When he called out the league for an apology, he knew they didn’t have the goods.

  23. Right…..Coleman never actually measured the pressure of the balls. Zero evidence that anyone deflated anything….

    The NFL should give the Pats the Ravens’ and Colts’ 2015 first round draft picks for the distractions they have caused.

  24. guaranteed they only checked the weight… If they were to check PSI that is already JUST at 12.5, they would put the ball into illegal when the gauge is installed.

  25. If they had, then everyone would see that all 12 balls were under the minimum, but only 1 wasn’t “at least” 2 lbs under.

    How is it that PFT hasn’t reported on the report:

    “Patriots Brandon Browner tells teammates to break Richard Sherman’s injured arm”

    First Spygate, then Deflategate, now targeting to injure?! WOW!!! Patriots are Cheaters!!!

  26. But, like a civil lawsuit, showing burden of proof isn’t that difficult.
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    This suit would get laughed out of court.

  27. and yet the hater fans of the NFL will continue to hate on the Patriots until the end of time for pedley stuff like this, but the NFL is the one who can’t stop stumbling over their own johnson time after time.
    Can’t we all agree to hate the NFL? they are practically begging everyone to.

  28. Sure ,the reason this is in the news is because we have no records of psi on the balls in question. I’ll wait ,I’m sure there is a little more to this story. Originally we heard the officials re-inflated 11 Patriot balls I guess they can’t remember anything now,totally believable.

  29. Let’s see how well the Patriots held onto the ball both before and after the 2006 season … [snip]
    —–

    Recognizing the Patriots likely destroyed your home team at some point, leading you to grasp at straws for an explanation —

    But, if you honestly believe that a 2 PSI difference, which one scientist characterized as creating an extra ONE millimeter deflection in the football, suddenly creates non-fumbling Super Heroes, then our IQ test here is complete. Thank you for playing. The men in white coats will be visiting you shortly.

  30. It’s clear that the players and coaches have learned a lot about football pressure in recent days, and it’s clear that the league’s processes could be refined after what has been learned throughout this process that is still trying to find a way to complete itself (does an iPad have enough battery power to allow for this one to be reviewed?).

    Maybe the most fair outcome is for those on both sides of the debate to agree that everybody has learned something useful and to shake hands, move on, and spend time cooperating together in solving any other outstanding issues that need to be resolved.

    Next item on the agenda?…

  31. Simple answer really. Ask for the logs from all the teams this year. Including playoff teams. If none kept logs then all is fine. If all but one doesn’t have a log, you have a potential problem.

    Can we be done with this already?
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    They don’t log this information. They never have. They probably stick a gauge in a ball or two and then squeeze the rest to see if they’re similar. The problem with that procedure is another thing Blandino said: The refs couldn’t tell the difference between 13 PSIg and 12 PSIg.

  32. The NFL isn’t going to end up doing anything about DeflateGate….

    The only effective result from it will be increased scrutiny on Belichick and the Patriots. If they were bending the rules, they will probably be stopping it. The risks are now too high.

  33. You people are not understanding this. They’re talking about BEFORE the game. Not at halftime. Those balls were checked for proper inflation, and at least 11 were found to be 2 PSI under by half time.

  34. The Patriots won by 38, can we move on already?

    Just have the NFL change the rule to where they hold the balls until kickoff not 2 hours before.

    It’s really not that hard…

  35. “Then you’re a fool.

    If you’re running a sting you collect all the evidence possible.”
    ———————
    The evidence is there. They were within regulation and then they weren’t. Get ready for the hammer…

  36. It is still utterly mind-boggling that the NFL had no clue that a ball that starts at 12.5 PSI at room temperature is going to end a cold, wet football game at far below 12.5 PSI. That level of incompetence is bordering on impressive.

  37. The NFL doesn’t have the money to go buying things like clipboards and log sheets. Think of the logistics there… to set that up league-wide, you’d be looking at a solid $350. Then of course you need pens. The costs are already spiraling out of control.

  38. The NFL isn’t going to end up doing anything about DeflateGate….

    The only effective result from it will be increased scrutiny on Belichick and the Patriots. If they were bending the rules, they will probably be stopping it. The risks are now too high.
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    Now that the NFL knows about PV=nRT, they will probably require logging of ball pressure and temperature pre-game and institute a continuous monitoring regime. Or they’ll widen the ball spec so that balls can change temp. Or both. Or neither: you play with a ball that starts at 13 PSI and is provided by the league.

    On the second point: is it so hard for you to believe that there was nothing underhanded here? There’s literally no evidence of anything yet this belief persists…

  39. Everybody loses…

    Following the Superbowl, a slew of new rules tweaks and ‘recommendations’ will show up, telling the refs to employ due diligence with the footballs prior to and during the game, and at the same time they will construct some sort of phraseology stating that they don’t have evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the Patriots, leaving that stain that haters will keep forever. It’s almost as if they have to lose this Superbowl and win a different one to exonerate themselves.

    NASCAR folks must be laughing all day at the weaksauce controls these refs have employed.

    Hell, the Patriots certainly could have been right all along. I don’t know how low a ‘standard of proof’ could possibly be where you can convict without evidence that the balls even changed PSI. Hell, they can’t even prove that the balls didn’t INCREASE in PSI during the game to get to where they were still low at halftime.

  40. Why don’t they say what the balls were at haltime? First 11 then “2 psi under” then “closer to 1”. Balls lose 1 psi roughly for a 20 degree fall in temp. Did everyone flunk physics?

    Why do tire manufacturers tell you to put air in your tires in cold weather? Did Belichick let the air out?

  41. xian62216221 says: Jan 29, 2015 5:51 PM
    “This does not mean Mort was wrong. He said they were 2 psi below the minimum, meaning 10.5psi. according to this report the nfl doesn’t know exactly how much they dropped.”
    “the main, significant detail remains, which is that the 11/12 patriot balls were (apparently 2 psi or near that ???) below minimum and the colts balls were still within regulation. ????

    Sorry but you are not paying attention to the information in this article.

    They don’t know ANYTHING about specific numbers, and “gauged” [= MAY NOT HAVE MEASURED ] them in the first place, according the relevant NFL official in a public official declaration.

    Roger Goodell AND Walt Anderson’s jobs are threatened. That’s why they are hiring lawyers…

  42. So all these NFL experts have gone on-and-on about these “facts” related to the PSI drop, and they weren’t facts at all. Sounds like Kraft is right, they are owed an apology.

  43. Now that the NFL has had NEARLY TWO WEEKS to sort this out, the NFL decides let’s PRE-burn the evidence this time. Bury it.

    AS IF it took nearly two weeks for this to come out, … unless IT WAS PURE FABRICATION.

  44. They were actually timing how long some poor guy was in the toilet? When they couldn’t have definitively proven anything even if they’d had him on tape sticking needles into the balls? Unbelievable.

    Another investigation where Goodell and Company totally blew it. The Colts complained about this issue after the regular season game. But for the playoff game the NFL doesn’t record everything and doesn’t do a second check right before kickoff just to be safe? And then launch an investigation knowing upfront they don’t have any reliable records of what pressure the balls were at to start with?

  45. Roger Goodell absolutely has to go. You can’t make any sort of case if you can’t verify that the balls were fine from the beginning. This has been known since the moment this whole thing started. At any point, they NFL could have just said “we don’t have enough data to go on,” and the whole thing would have gone away. Instead, this whole ballghazi stupidity. This is what happens when you lack any sort of effective leadership. Goodell has been sitting back waiting to see which way the wind was going to blow, rather than getting out in front and setting things straight. He could not be more of a stuffed suit. Kraft should see him off as soon as possible.

  46. Of course there still remains the question the NFL has yet to mention – where the footballs even actually measured/weighed before the game, or were they just inspected? Because if the balls were never tested, and were underinflated all along, there is no rule violation. Seems to me if there is this lower level of proof needed, the case should be simple – what did the balls weigh initially, by halftime the weight went down, then it is case closed. but if the nfl is just guessing at pre-game weights, they can’t possibly know anything. all of this just to say, the NFL is horribly run.

  47. seahawkboymike – “You people are not understanding this. They’re talking about BEFORE the game. Not at halftime. Those balls were checked for proper inflation, and at least 11 were found to be 2 PSI under by half time.”

    It’s a Patriots fan board right now. Don’t expect logic about this issue. N.E. fans will never acknowledge that the only reason for the initial weighing of the balls was to ensure they were between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. The individual weight of each ball within that range is irrelevant, as any weight between 12.5 and 13.5 is fine. But Patriots fans are grasping and trying to make it a big deal that the exact weight of each ball wasn’t listed before the game.

  48. So the only ball that was deflated was the one the Colts purposely doctored. They deserve the suspensions and fines.

  49. flybono24 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 5:32 PM
    Just like Spygate, when the NFL deleted all the tapes before people could see what was on them.

    NFL always covering up for the *pats cheating.

    The tapes were played on loop for the media at Goodell’s press conference, and they were also broadcast on FOX network to the whole country. Please go back in your folks’ basement.

  50. To everyone saying they don’t need to know what the pressure was before the game, you are wrong. If you don’t know the pressure beforehand, then you don’t know if there was any decrease. What if all the balls given were already down in PSI. The refs squeeze them and say good. THEN they test them at half time, see that they are deflated and claim the Pats did something??? NO, they had to show all the balls were at regulation to begin with to have ANY proof, even low level, that the balls were deflated. If they can’t confirm that, they have no case! If they did, they could easily say, we don’t know how you did it, but we know you had to have done something and therefore your punishment is…

  51. So does this blow out if the whole “sting operation” theory? If it were planned in advance the refs obviously would have logged the PSIs pre-game.

  52. It’s going to be interesting to see how ESPN reports this update. Seeing as how one of their reporters threw out bad information and started a MASSIVE media storm over nothing.

  53. It took the NFL almost 2 weeks before this leaked out! Meanwhile the Patriots have been dragged over the coals in public opinion. I guess the NFL was waiting for a Jimmy Spoons to scream, “You’re damned right I did it!”

    The Patriots shouldn’t have to pay a penny in fines. If they do, it would be an admission of guilt where no guilt exists. For those who say they were caught with underinflated balls and should still pay the fine, if the NFL can’t even prove that they were up to 12.5 psi when they approved them, the entire blame is on the NFL. Let’s just improve the system, and move on. Unfortunately the Patriots are the victims here and their image has been further tarnished having been subjected to the lynch mob known as the media. Bone head will forever think they did something wrong, even if they didn’t. Screw ’em. Just win Sunday Patriots!

  54. The evidence is there. They were within regulation and then they weren’t. Get ready for the hammer…
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    Evidence of what? Physics? That’s not against the rules. If the refs approve a 12.5 PSI ball on a cold day there is no legal way for a team to keep that ball within the specified range. Remember: you can’t tamper with an inspected ball – how are you going to add air to it once it gets cold? Once the balls go to the game officials, it’s the game officials job to keep the balls within spec and remove them from play if they’re out of spec.

    WA and his crew did just that.

  55. On this planet EVERY SINGLE FOOTBALL inflated to 12.5 psi (legal!) at room temperature will drop to AT MOST 11.5 psi at 51 degrees (illegal, SOLELY because refs have not been briefed on the reality of temperature/pressure effects & 18th-century science)

    With no starting numbers, their case (should be)* totally shot soon, and will be in the end.

    I say “should be” because dim-witted critics will STILL insist that “below 12.5 psi is STILL illegal” simply because they also cannot get it to sink into their pea brains that it is a necessary consequence of living on EARTH that this MUST happen.

    Those dim-witted critics can raise a stink for awhile, and wrongly brand us as cheaters long after we are vindicated and fully exonerated, but to their dismay the NFL will have to consider the solid facts that clearly define this whole fiasco as an ill-conceived witch hunt.

  56. I say “should be” because dim-witted critics will STILL insist that “below 12.5 psi is STILL illegal” simply because they also cannot get it to sink into their pea brains that it is a necessary consequence of living on EARTH that this MUST happen.
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    Heh. Not just on earth. It’s a consequence of being a resident of this universe. NdGT had a very good explanation in his correction of how the ideal gas law works in relation to the temperature and volume of the universe now versus at the Big Bang.

  57. rpmcanes says:

    Jan 29, 2015 6:16 PM

    flybono24 says:

    Jan 29, 2015 5:32 PM

    Just like Spygate, when the NFL deleted all the tapes before people could see what was on them.

    NFL always covering up for the *pats cheating.

    The tapes were played on loop for the media at Goodell’s press conference, and they were also broadcast on FOX network to the whole country. Please go back in your folks’ basement.
    _________________

    I chuckled at your comment. The parents’ basement jab never gets old.

    Anyway, Goodell actually didn’t release all the tapes in the NFL’s possession, only certain ones. A quick Google search of “nfl destroyed spygate tapes” will confirm.

  58. in other words “although the patriots did play with underinflated footballs”… so did the colts.. it may have looked as if there was only one team on the field …there were two.. interception anyone?

  59. Sage advice: If you are conducting a sting operation, you might want to keep careful records of the evidence.

    Unless, of course, the only fact that mattered to the NFL was the fact that they knew this would be a big distraction to the Patriots organization going into the Superbowl.

  60. The NFL is looking more like the Keystone Cops with each update. This is pathetic. How do they know if the Patriots did anything wrong if they don’t know the PSI numbers? What a joke. The NFL is desperate to pin something on the Pats because that’s what Jim Harbaugh and Chuck Pagano and the Jet fan in the NFL front office want. They’re out for blood because they hate the Patriots. The NFL has nothing. The Patriots did nothing wrong. The Patriots clearly did not tamper with the footballs and the NFL has no evidence that they did. The referees approved all the Patriots footballs for play. So please clear the Patriots, issue them a huge apology and let’s all get on with our lives.

  61. First they tried the Belicheat / Brady “we know Nothing – Didn’t Fly.
    Then it was the Belicheat Science Lesson- nope!
    Rogue Ballboy in the bathroom?-Laughed at!
    Sherman calls out The Goodell / Kraft love affair. Next Day Kraft demands apology to give the impression that Goodell is not in his back pocket. – Not Believable.
    Now I guess it is the refs fault. Everyone already hates the refs, blame them. Better than the truth.
    They are just throwing things against the wall to see if anything sticks. —Protect the $hield!

  62. Mort was wrong about the 2 psi, blindly accepting the information from Mike Kensil. Now Mort is going to have to slowly back away from the fact that he screwed up in plain sight.

    Ironically, the NFL’s case “against” the Patriots seems to be deflating.

  63. On second thought, this may just be a face-saving ruse to allow the NFL to retreat from an unwinnable situation yet try to put themselves in the best light: The ‘We had ’em cold but they walked on a technicality’ Big Lie.

  64. NFL doesn’t have to log out the psi of each football. Everybody in the world knows there cheaters. There practically playing the superbowl for nothing. Win or lose, they’ll always be an asterisk behind these cheaters.

  65. If you don’t think Tommy Uggs has been having the balls under inflated to his liking for years, well, I guess your sibling got all the brains in the family.

  66. Bad news for the Patriots anyway. This basically confirms that the team is in a beef with the officials behind the curtain. I don’t expect many calls to go their way SUNDAY night.

    Just imagine the horror of Rodger having to hand Kraft that Lombardi on Sunday night. What a disaster this whole thing is.

  67. First they tried the Belicheat / Brady “we know Nothing – Didn’t Fly.
    Then it was the Belicheat Science Lesson- nope!
    Rogue Ballboy in the bathroom?-Laughed at!
    Sherman calls out The Goodell / Kraft love affair. Next Day Kraft demands apology to give the impression that Goodell is not in his back pocket. – Not Believable.
    Now I guess it is the refs fault. Everyone already hates the refs, blame them. Better than the truth.
    They are just throwing things against the wall to see if anything sticks. —Protect the $hield!
    ===
    I’d expect as much from you, Pete. Found out what temperature steel lose strength at yet?

  68. NFL doesn’t have to log out the psi of each football. Everybody in the world knows there cheaters. There practically playing the superbowl for nothing. Win or lose, they’ll always be an asterisk behind these cheaters.
    ===
    If you’re actually in Pittsburgh, go ask Headsmart what they think.

  69. steelcurtainn says:
    Jan 29, 2015 6:40 PM
    NFL doesn’t have to log out the psi of each football. Everybody in the world knows there cheaters. There practically playing the superbowl for nothing. Win or lose, they’ll always be an asterisk behind these cheaters

    ———

    not in the NFL record books, only in your little black book next to all of the girls’ numbers you don’t have

  70. It’s become a circus with the league’s incompetence once again outshining the issue being investigated….as usual. Time to drop it.

  71. If air pressure is a big deal why aren’t they documenting this thing? How do we have video of the ball boy going into a bathroom but no video of the inspection?

    Why does the NFL always wait until something bad happens before fixing their sloppy incompetent system? They talk about fining people $25,000 for tampering with balls or switching an approved ball for a non-approved ball. How is that the punishment? Do better NFL.

  72. If Bill, after his exhaustive I have had enough investigation, would have talked about the things that mattered. That is, if he would have talked about the process of how the last thing that happens is that the ball boy brings to spec pressure then checks them in for the refs to verify, then Bill is believable. The fact that Bill, talks about psi increases as they rub the ball, etc….proves he is guilty. He said nothing about the truth, and everything about things that would only matter to Patriot fans who are happy to look the other way.

  73. If air pressure is a big deal why aren’t they documenting this thing? How do we have video of the ball boy going into a bathroom but no video of the inspection?

    Why does the NFL always wait until something bad happens before fixing their sloppy incompetent system? They talk about fining people $25,000 for tampering with balls or switching an approved ball for a non-approved ball. How is that the punishment? Do better NFL.
    ———————————————————

    Because the union probably won’t allow the record keeping so as to now be able to find the refs did something wrong and on paper.

  74. You should be more specific. are you saying they did not document air pressure before the game?If that’s what you mean, who care. as long as it is between 12.5 and 13.5.
    they already stated 11 balls were 2 lbs under at half time.what does it matter, whether they were at 12.5 or 13.5 at pregame inspection?

  75. Here’s an idea – how about an NFL official be present at every game to handle game balls. Stop letting teams use their own balls. Problem solved.

  76. Fans will have to police the NFL…

    Any time I Tom Brady or Bill Bellichek on the field…yell cheater until they go away.
    _____________________________________________
    Or you could root for your own team and thank the patriots for pushing you team to try harder and shoot for excellence. Be a real fan and not a hater.

  77. brian91388 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 6:53 PM
    If air pressure is a big deal why aren’t they documenting this thing? How do we have video of the ball boy going into a bathroom but no video of the inspection?
    ==================================
    Because it’s not a big deal. Because no one has ever complained or made an accusation on this basis until the Colts did, as they were getting their asses handed to them for the second time this year. If it was a big deal why did no one say a word about Aaron Rodgers over inflating balls, intentionally.

    No one has ever cared, until now. Now, since it’s the Patriots, it’s time for criminal charges and an all consuming investigation. But the reality is it’s been happening this way since they started playing football. Just wait until the Columbia Univ. Study that the NFL commissioned on Monday finds that Belichick’s 15 minute physics lecture on Saturday was exactly right. The NFL has never tracked pressures, and until Belichick enlightened them on Saturday, they did not know that pressures changed with environment during the game. Massive embarrassment for the NFL.
    Heck of a job Rog!

  78. The NFL’s original statement said that they “inspected” the balls before the game, They didn’t “measure’ them which means their inspection was likely a look and squeeze and an approval…

  79. redrocker77 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 7:02 PM
    Here’s an idea – how about an NFL official be present at every game to handle game balls. Stop letting teams use their own balls. Problem solved.
    ==================================
    Peyton wanted the rule changed so he could use his own balls, the NFL did that for him. That’s a fact. Brady will throw a watermelon and win, because that’s who he is, and that’s what he does.

  80. swagger52 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 6:57 PM
    The fact that Bill, talks about psi increases as they rub the ball, etc….proves he is guilty. He said nothing about the truth, and everything about things that would only matter to Patriot fans who are happy to look the other way.
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    You have a head injury, ask someone to take you to the emergency room.

  81. Greedell covering up for for Graft again…. not a surprise that Greedell would brush this under the rug again. I’m surprised they even have the footballs, they must not have fit in a paper shredder.

  82. moochach says:

    Peyton wanted the rule changed so he could use his own balls, the NFL did that for him. That’s a fact. Brady will throw a watermelon and win, because that’s who he is, and that’s what he does.

    _______________

    But he threw footballs against the Giants in two Super Bowls and lost.

  83. One thing can’t be denied – Goodell certainly helped out the Pats. This absurd sham clown show investigation gave BB just the kind of “us against the world” storyline he loves – Pats will come out fired up and vindicated on Sunday.

  84. Goodell is so dumb … if you were going to let the Pats off the hook, maybe you want to do that BEFORE the controversy gets out of control and taints the Super Bowl.

    Now all he’s done is fuel the conspiracy and collusion theories, and ruined the game at the same time.

    Look, the Pats are probably going to win this game anyway — but now the NFL has put the league and the Pats organization in a situation where fans will always question this year’s Super Bowl.

    Terrible management. Goodell is awful.

  85. It is increasingly clear that there was no NFL sting operation. The officials seem to have been surprised to be told to measure the balls at halftime. This was an unhappy opponent looking for something, anything! that could derail a team that keeps pounding them into the turf.

    We may never know what pressures were found in either team’s balls at any point in this process, since nothing was recorded. The only thing we do know for sure is that changes in temperature do indeed change the internal pressure of an inflated football.

    We may never know at what point in time the Patriots’ footballs were measured at halftime, or after the game, or at what point in time the Colts’ balls were measured, but we do know for sure that time of exposure matters as much as temperature differential.

    Thus, unless someone confesses to deflating balls on behalf of the Patriots, there is no evidence that any violation even took place.

    Yet, jealous fans of other teams will continue to assume that any rumor they hear that the Patriots have done something wrong becomes immediate and indisputable fact. Rumors started by fans or opponents just as jealous as they are of the Patriots continued success. And the feedback loop of falsehoods will continue to roll.

  86. So if they were doing an active investigation at the time regarding the pressure of the footballs, and had video cameras rolling to catch people, you would think that sort of detail would be important into an investigation…right?

  87. cross300 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 7:05 PM
    Fans will have to police the NFL…

    Any time I Tom Brady or Bill Bellichek on the field…yell cheater until they go away.

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    I wish I could afford to be a season ticket holder. I would give you a ticket to any game of your choosing. You would have to show up to use it, of course, and would not be allowed to resell it.

  88. And now all the Patsies fans can fool themselves into believing their QB, HC, and owner are good, honest guys. Hey Graft, thats quite a following of patsies you have.

    But sorry Greedell, the fans of 31 other teams know the Pat are nothing but a rotten, cheating, lying organization.

  89. If you review Belichick’s press conference transcript from Saturday, he says “When the footballs are delivered to the officials locker room, the officials were asked to inflate them to 12.5 PSI. What exactly they did, I don’t know.”

    That couple with Brady, Kraft and Belicheck’s “all-in” strident denials make it clear what really happened. Pats probably gave the balls to the refs at pre-game check-in underinflated and told them to inflate to 12.5, as Belichick says. This new info obviously means the refs did no such thing. So the balls probably started underinflated and may or may not have lost some additional air due to climate. Doesn’t matter really, Pats followed the “letter” of the rules and the refs and the NFL messed up. Black eye for almost everyone involved.

  90. restoreintegritytonfl says:
    Jan 29, 2015 7:15 PM
    Greedell covering up for for Graft again…. not a surprise that Greedell would brush this under the rug again. I’m surprised they even have the footballs, they must not have fit in a paper shredder.
    =================================
    You are going to hate hearing this because it’s a fact and it doesn’t fit the paranoid fantasy of the Pats being cheaters…the NFL never logs ball pressure before the games. Blandino said that today in the press conference. This is not a coverup, they did not accidentally lose the data, destroy the data or purposefully ignore the data. They just never collect the data. Not for any team.

  91. No use firing Greedell. He is nothing more than the henchman of Robert Graft. And apparently Graft has convinced the rest of the low life owners in the league to let this issue go to avoid hurting revenues for everybody. Hey, I got it, just put it on Roger, his reputation has been worthless for years.

  92. Dean Blandino is like a Greedell in training. Great liar, solely focused on money, does not mind looking like a giant schmuck, minimally capable of devising believe cover-up stories, an all around scumbag kind of guy.

  93. How much PSI do balls lose after an orgasm? Time to move on from this as there’s no case and let’s focus on the SuperBowl matchup of the 2 best teams in the league and may the best team win

  94. So after 10 days, this is the answer we get? Hmmmm patriots are accused of under inflating the footballs. Step one of league investigation. NFL asks Refs, were the footballs within the proper range prior to kickoff? Refs answer yes they were. NFL asks, how do you know that? REFS answer, We measured them. NFL asks, Can you tell us or show us the readings? REFS answer No we cannot. Investigation over.
    So why has it been 10 days of investigating?? This doesn’t seem a little too convenient for anyone else? 10 days and this is what the NFL comes up with?? I prefer the “we burned the tapes because they served no purpose” excuse over this excuse. This is the lamest let them off the hook excuse ever. If the NFL actually had this knowledge from day 1, then they would have ended the investigation immediately. They can’t expect us to believe this excuse.

  95. restoreintegritytonfl says:
    Jan 29, 2015 7:15 PM
    Greedell covering up for for Graft again…. not a surprise that Greedell would brush this under the rug again. I’m surprised they even have the footballs, they must not have fit in a paper shredder.
    —————————————————
    Now you sound real desperate…I’ll take a super-sized cup of your cry baby tears.

  96. The whole thing that the patriots don’t fumble as often is BS. They fumbled twice in the AFC championship game. Edelman fumbled out of bounds and I think Amendola fumbled on the kick off but got it back. This whole thing is a joke and a complete waste of time and money.

  97. Kraft just publically STOMPED on Goodell because Goodell just threw his organization under bus on super bowl week. They just spent super bowl week in an all out unheard of PR war with each other. These guys are hardly on same page anymore.

  98. But, but, the Patriots have to be found guilty of cheating! Please, make it so.

    Otherwise my supposedly righteous indignation at their alleged compromising of the integrity of the game will be exposed for what it really is.

    Pure hate filled prejudice laden jealousy because they’ve been too good for too long.

  99. The simple reason the Patriots dont fumble the ball as much as other teams do, is because they bench you, then eventually fire you for it. Ask Steven Ridley. Fumbled one time sat the rest of the game, fumbled again, sat for a few weeks. Its that simple.

  100. If they did not log the pressures then there is no proof of wrongdoing. The ref could be lying to protect his butt just as the locker room attendant could be lying to protect his. The likelihood is that Anderson just gave them the squeeze test, which we have already heard it common practice.

    I’m still curious about Florio’s source that said 11 balls were 1 psi under and the one the Colts had in their possession was 2 psi under the limit.

    If that is in fact true then the lack of a log gets the Colts Equip. Mgr. off the hook, too. After all, the one ball with a significant variance was the only ball of the 12 in his possession. And we know that DQ Jackson is on record as saying he did not notice a difference and said nothing about it to the Colts Equip. Mgr.

  101. restoreintegritytonfl says:
    Jan 29, 2015 7:31 PM

    But sorry Greedell, the fans of 31 other teams know the Pat are nothing but a rotten, cheating, lying organization.
    =================================
    I love that this is so upsetting to you and so many other committed Pats haters. You want so bad for them to be guilty, but year after year you are frustrated and angry. Keep it up, your tears bring joy to so many Pats fans.

  102. In other words this is proof that most if not all teams put the balls to their specs and its up to the officials to get them to the right pressure. Hence Rodgers over inflating his. Makes the whining of the colts look that much more pathetic

  103. The NFL’s guidelines for air pressure per their handbook is clearly just that, a guideline. The real quality control is the refs check of the ball on every play. Given the challenge by the Colts, the refs gaged checked the balls at halftime despite not having any issue with them based on their own handling, and added air. Sientific analysis proves that balls lose pressure under certain climate changes. The Patriots played better after the air was added. For some reason, a team that the Patriots blew out the last four times they played them leaked this story to an Indy blogger who screamed bloody murder. Gun shy from its pr failures throughout the year the NFL decided to act concerned and now the facts are blowing up in their face.

  104. well then, during the second half of the game, after all balls had been accurately inflated and measured with a PSI guage, the Pats pounded the Colts 28-0. ok then. sounds about right. are we for sure the Colts actually didnt tamper with footballs here during the first half to keep it close? Maybe if a ball ended up on their sideline they hit it with a needle real quickly? The Colts are the ones who would benefit from the balls being easier to throw and catch, its what their offense does. Throw the ball. The Colts dont exacly have a stellar history here either folks. Their owner is about as shady as they get in my opinion.

  105. One word against another. There isn’t anything to even come to a slight conclusion that one side or the other did something wrong

  106. What a country. Look at how many people are not upset that an organization was wrongly accused and two of the greatest players and coaches were called liars and cheats by people who are either not very bright or who had a personal agenda in seeing the persecution succeed; even worse, they are lived that a bogus prosecution didn’t work.

  107. love how people twist this around. It said they didn’t log them, meaning they didn’t write them down which I’m sure they never do… it didn’t say they didn’t measure them. They stick the the gauge in and if its between 12.5 and 13.5 then its deemed to be good. They don’t need to know the exact measurement of each ball. When they re-checked at the half the Pats balls were well below the legal limit and the Colts balls weren’t… Just wishful thinking for those Patsy fans wanting this to go away… ITS NOT

  108. The NFL didn’t bother to measure the inflation level of the balls as part of its big sting operation (which also means no one can confirm these balls were underinflated by 2 pounds psi)? Nor did the NFL bother to record or take notes of the commissioner’s meeting with Ray Rice. Are we sure the NFL actually signed the last collective bargaining agreement?

    How many strikes does one commissioner get?

  109. If they didn’t log them, they didn’t measure them.

    In order to prove something untoward happened, you would need objective data that that balls were more deflated than they should be based on atmospheric conditions, you would need strict measurement conditions to ensure there was not measurement error, and you would need conclusive measurements to back it up.

    As the NFL’s case falls apart more with each day I find it comical how people continue to cling to this fantastical notion that this was some elaborate three way conspiracy (involving the fastest fingered ball boy in the history of the universe) instead of just accepting the obvious, simple, logical conclusion. This was caused by poor inspection methodology, measurement error and predictable astmospheric conditions.

    This is an embarrassment to the NFL. If the NFL NEVER had any data ask yourself one question: How and why did this get this situation get this far? Some explanation is owed to us all.

  110. Ahem…. except that teams were complaining about the Patriots balls being underinflated THROUGHOUT THE SEASON.

    And not one Patriots running back fumbled the entire year.

    And the Patriots have a long history of cheating to win.

    And the balls were at acceptable PSI before the game started, but not during.

    And the Colts balls were at acceptable PSI before AND DURING the game.

    Patriots fans make me laugh so hard…..

  111. aballinhighgrass says:
    Jan 29, 2015 8:09 PM
    Trot Aikman and Mark Brunelleschi owe a very public apology to Tom Brady.

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    time for you to wake up before you hit that wet spot. then again, keep dreaming. fantasy land is a very familiar place for a pats fan!

  112. I feel sorry for the Bills, Jets and Dolphins … they should leave the AFC east because the Pats will always win that division since they run the league.
    What a disgrace!
    Caught cheating more that once and the evidence keeps getting destroyed.

    I really hoping for a Pats victory on a BS penalty call to prove once and for all how corrupt the NFL is.

  113. The refs/nfl should be called out for this then. They miss way to many things on and off the field.

  114. Pats balls were illegal. Colts weren’t.

    Case closed.
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    Actually the case closed when Walt Anderson put those balls in play. Per rule: he is the sole judge of wether a ball is legal.

  115. I used to feel passionately about this. I don’t anymore, it’s totally gotten stupid. They’re obviously going to get exonerated. I’d bet the farm on it.
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    That’s how it should work when you didn’t do anything. You don’t feel passionately about it any more because your position has been shown to be completely unsupported by fact leaving you unsure of yourself.

  116. ajbully says: Jan 29, 2015 8:37 PM

    love how people twist this around. It said they didn’t log them, meaning they didn’t write them down which I’m sure they never do… it didn’t say they didn’t measure them. They stick the the gauge in and if its between 12.5 and 13.5 then its deemed to be good. They don’t need to know the exact measurement of each ball. When they re-checked at the half the Pats balls were well below the legal limit and the Colts balls weren’t… Just wishful thinking for those Patsy fans wanting this to go away… ITS NOT
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    So, a police officer in court says you were speeding, but he didn’t write it down, so nobody knows how fast you were going. If you want to pay the fine, be my guest.

  117. I bet all the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOT haters feel a little DEFLATED . I really feel extremely sorry and hurt you that the outcome did not make you get excited to see a GREAT NFL football team get embarrassed , fined and probably lose draft picks . It breaks my heart , and I do feel your pain . But look on the bright side , when on Sunday night you will , along with me and thousands of loyal PATRIOT fans can rejoice in another PATRIOT SUPER VICTORY .
    Let the party begin .

  118. Fools. All this means is that the PSI of EACH ball was not logged. The officials confirmed each ball was between 12.5 and 13.5 and moved on. Approved or not approved. Desperate morons.

  119. Fools. All this means is that the PSI of EACH ball was not logged. The officials confirmed each ball was between 12.5 and 13.5 and moved on. Approved or not approved. Desperate morons.
    ===

    You could go read the article that said, “The NFL has no proof that the NFL referee checked the PSI in the Patriots’ footballs prior to the AFC Championship Game, the league’s VP of officiating Dean Blandino told a group of reporters after a news conference Thursday. NFL officials don’t log the PSI in footballs. They either approve them or disapprove them.”

    They didn’t check. They didn’t log. They have no idea what they should have been at half time. They found the balls low, so that added air. End of story.

    We don’t even need to get into theoretical and experimental evidence of pressure loss due to cold, wet conditions because we don’t know what the initial conditions were. If you don’t know the initial conditions, you don’t know what the final conditions should be.

  120. Revenge: a dish best served cold

    This will blow over and next season the Colts and Ravens (and possibly Jets) will be the most penalized teams in the league….just dessert for making Goodell look so foolish…I wish I could be so incompetent and get paid that much.

    Of course, we’ll know the League’s position on the Patriots by Sunday evening, based on any bias in calls by officials.

  121. As a Patriots fan this makes me happy but I do feel bad for the rational football fans across the country who wanted the league to get to the bottom of this not out of bitter hatred for the Patriots but simply because of their love for the game.

    No matter what team you root for this has been a tough year for football fans. The incompetence displayed by the league has been shocking.

  122. If the NFL thought that bounty gate was worth penalties, well this is clearly worthy of at least that punishment.

  123. All B.S. The Pats were significantly better in the second half, after the supposed deflated balls were discovered. Grow up, folks! This is a tempest in a teapot. An excuse to dislike the Pats. It has nothing to do with football; all to do with dumping on the most successful team in the last 15 years.
    So sorrrry! I feel for you.

  124. Well, that’s pretty much it, isn’t it? Isn’t this saying that there is zero documented evidence? After this, anything more than a minor penalty would result in a ballistic response from the Pats, something I’m sure the league doesn’t want.

    This investigation has legitimacy only in the sense of identifying a potential weakness in routine game-day practices and coming up with new practices to close any loopholes or pick up any slack by the refs. Anything beyond that – say, a witch-hunt to single out the Pats for harsh punishment – would be unreasonable.

    I think the NFL quickly realized they were led into quicksand by this bitter ex-Jets exec. And every other team in the league doesn’t want to have their own processes examined. I suspect the league and all 32 teams will be very glad to wrap this up quickly and forget it ever happened.

  125. This was intentionally leaked by the league to protect the pats. Not good for ratings if one of the teams in your marquee game is best know for cheating. Sponsors would not be too happy if ratings were down. Bad business to have a dishonest product.

  126. Judging by the Yeas and Nays, the Patriots’ fan have taken over the board LOL. A desperate fan base and a desperate team…both willing to win at any cost. You guys were made for each other.

  127. No matter what team you root for this has been a tough year for football fans. The incompetence displayed by the league has been shocking.
    ===
    Agreed. 345 Park Ave needs a cleaning.

  128. No measurements? Then there’s really no standard of proof. So what is this “lower threshold of proof” they’re talking about.

    What a mess and shame on the league for allowing this thing to explode during Superbowl week.

    They owe Robert Kraft an apology. And they should make it publicly.

  129. They said that they “checked” the footballs, which im assuming meant just squeezing them or something. At that point they probably were proper, but that was before the ball boy took them to the bathroom…

  130. The Patriots fully expect an apology for this complete nonsense and punishment dished out to the Colts in the form of forfeited draft picks.

    The fact that “the Hoodie” had to waste a moment of his time during his prep for the Super Bowl is tampering.

    The fact of the matter is the Colts had their butts handed to them and had to cry about SOMETHING. If it was a real issue, these experienced refs should have noticed it. It’s part of the damn job!

  131. The NFL didn’t write down the PSI because they didn’t have a reason too. They inflate the balls into the acceptable range and that should be fine…until the Patriots came along. If you don’t have the need for a policy why would they have a policy? There sure the heck will be a record now. This in no way exonerates NE.

  132. I think people have not thought out the implications of the NFLs physics ignorance. Just like haters have been flaunting their retort that physics applies to both sides and supposedly the Colts balls were fine……

    Of course because the NFL didn’t record and possibly didn’t measure with a gauge the PSI of the Colts Balls ( whose gauge do you use, has it been tested or calibrated for accuracy?) – we will never know.

    What we do know ( given the ignorance of the NFL) is that it is possible that the balls at EVERY game were illegal. Let that sink in for a minute.

    Temperature impacts the the PSI of the ball, so unless ALL the balls are measured AFTER they have become acclimatized to the field conditions and reached equilibrium, the reading in the locker room has no bearing on what it actually is on the fuel (over, under, legal).

  133. samapoc says:
    Jan 29, 2015 11:05 PM

    If the NFL thought that bounty gate was worth penalties, well this is clearly worthy of at least that punishment.

    =============================

    Do you even have any clue what bountygate was all about? The Saints defensive players set up an elaborate system in which they paid out “bounties” for all sort of things, including but not limited to injuring/targeting opposing players. Let me say that again…. the Saints players were paying each other to intentionally target and try to hurt opposing players. These payouts are also considered non-contract bonuses, which is in of itself against the NFL rules.

    Now…. even if the Patriots did slightly deflate their balls, how the hell does that even compare to intentionally trying to injure opposing players?

    Seriously, if it can be proved the Patriots actually did something wrong here (that’s a really big if at this point btw), they most certainly should be punished. The idea that the punishment should be on par, or even worse, than bountygate though? That’s just strait up laughable.

  134. It’s so funny to see all the Pats fans flock to all these posts to try and defend their golden boy. The bottom line is 90% of the nation thinks he is a cheater and always has been. And nothing anybody says is ever going to change that. From now on whenever someone talks about Brady’s greatness, there will always be someone else quick to point out that he’s a cheater. That’s just the way it is. The same way Bonds and Clemons are forever tainted, so to is Tom Brady.

  135. They don’t log PSI and they never did cause no one gave a rats ass. Someone butthurt figured out they could use this to fuel a witch hunt against the Patriots.

  136. The league trying to screw the Pats again, just like the walk through tapes that never existed. Its about time someone stood up to these monsters and the Pats are just the team to do it!

  137. You can tell most the comments are from pats fans. Course 90% of the fans in AZ now are Seahawk fans and don’t have the time to post here. Sorry about the snow.

    As far as cheating being no big deal, only a Pats fan could make themselves believe that. They already stated they were deflated and know that a ball boy likely did it.

    Personally, I could care less. But I get tired of Pat fans constantly making excuses. Take a tip from Marshawn Lynch and just shut the hell up already. It’s all about the action boss.

  138. In a related development the New York Times Wednesday ran an article regarding a technical paper that supports that the weather could have deflated the balls by up to 2 PSI.

    The NFL has hired a professor from Columbia. He is going to tell the committee that anytime a ball is inflated to 12.5 PSI at room temperature and then introduced to a colder environment, it will deflate and become ‘ illegal’ so this has likely been a commonplace forever in the league. He will also tel the investigation that it is not possible for the Colts balls not to have deflated if they were prepared and stored at room temp. He will also say the difference in PSI when measured at half time can be attributed to: 1) a different initial PSI, 2) air in the footballs were at different temperatures because of preparation which caused the Patriots balls to become heated or the Colts balls were simply stored in a cooler space.

    Mystery solved, the ball boy took a whiz.

  139. The NFL is entertainment, it has has all the integrity of any other”reality” show. Everything is scripted for the desired results.

  140. Like most businesses the incompetence of Goodell and the NFL in handling the most basic of tasks is mind-boggling. So Goodell thinks most NFL league employees are overpaid, but gravy trainers like him take credit for things they dont deserve credit for and place the blame on others. This clown made $44 million last year but thinks everyone else is overpaid. Lol. Goodell should give back not only the $44 mill he made last year but he needs to be fired ASAP.

  141. The reason these “investigations” take so long is the incompentent baffoons that run the NFL need time to concoct their story based on whatever people say and do in the media. This was the excuse they came up with so gravy training, baffoon Goodell could keep his job.

  142. Drew Brees a guest on Conan Show guessed the PSI of each football handed to him correctly and then tossed the football out to the audience. He was perfect except when he hit the lights at the top of the ceiling…

    No one ever does anything until something happens. Enough auto accidents then we get seatbelts. Would say enough gun crime and then here comes gun control but that hasn’t happened!

    The NFL is not responsible for domestic violence which belongs to the police and the courts but they are responsible for the PSI of footballs.

  143. I’ve read a ton of these comments…you’ve got comments from people that are level headed and tell it like it is….you’ve got haters that refuse to take their hate glasses off….and you’ve got bandwagon football fans that know absolutely nothing about football but give their two cents anyways…but not one of you ever posed a question such as this: If the NFL doesn’t log the PSI of the balls at the beginning of the games….how many other QB’s are out there playing with overinflated (Rodgers) or underinflated balls? And answer me this….if the Pats put their balls at 12.5…how does that make them cheaters? The range is not 12.6 to 13.4…it is 12.5 to 13.5…if the Refs didn’t like them at 12.5 they should have inflated some more…oh wait…they don’t gauge them so guess they wouldn’t.

  144. And to all of you saying but the Colts balls weren’t underinflated? Which one of you know for a fact that Luck doesn’t like his overinflated?

  145. Owe Robert Kraft an apology?? No, Robert Kraft owes every other team in the league an apology for purposefully becoming Goodell’s BBF for his and his team’s very own benefit/advantage… Why do you think Kraft backs up everything Goodell’s trying to implement like putting a team in London… No one wants a team in London except for Goodell and now Kraft…. Things that make you go HHMMMM

  146. Does the NFL have a rule that states the balls must remain within the regulation inflation/weight throughout the game and make a practice of re-checking balls at half-time? No? Then this is just a B.S. witch hunt!

  147. If the balls were within range when they checked them, they shouldnt have to keep records of specific measurements.

  148. Thank you Mike, Ive been saying this for weeks now. I am not even close to a patriots fan, it makes total sense for ANY investigation to have a start point and an end point. They never checked them with a gauge to begin with, meaning there was no reason to write down exact PSI’s. The patriots, and probably MANY of teams do this because they really dont care to check, this will change next season I guarantee it. Suddenly books and ledgers apply, cameras are inspected to make sure the balls are checked, and hopefully, incompetent officials are finally reprimanded and fired.

  149. I said this when it happened. Kravitz, the media person from Indy started this firestorm and had no facts to support it. Where was the story about the first complaint Indy made?

    The NFL let him get away with it.

    Any way the media can attempt to nail the Pats is fair game.

    Tuck game, snow blower, player substitutions
    all accused the Pats of cheating when in fact they were not. They broke no rules in effect at the time.

    Sad commentary of our times.

  150. ravensgrrl:
    If the balls were within range when they checked them, they shouldnt have to keep records of specific measurements.
    ___________________________
    The problem with that is that without specific measurements, we can’t know that the refs actually did their job and use a gauge to test the balls. Most likely, they just did a squeeze test and said, “That’s fine.”

    They can’t lay blame on the Patriots for any wrongdoing if they don’t have documentation to prove they did anything wrong.

  151. The NFL, media haters and biased fan bases who all rushed to judgement must apologize to the Patriots now that’s it been proven no one deflated anything but all the haters ego’s. We’ll be waiting for it.

  152. ok, so now its been proven the Pats did nothing to the footballs and they could very likely have dropped even 2psi in the cold wet weather, can we focus the investigation on why to Colts balls did not deflate? It would seem someone must have been tampering with theirs.

  153. Once again…for those that missed it the first time.

    NFL/Ravens/Colts/Haters = Wild E. Coyote

    Kraft/Belichick/Brady = The Roadrunner

    Meep Meep!

  154. I can’t say I’m surprised that ESPN gives no mention to Blandino’s seemingly important admission that the 1 official in charge may or may not have even used an actual gauge to check the footballs pregame, and that the PSI was not logged for either of the teams’ footballs pregame. The media doesn’t want to hear that…so they ignore.

  155. just because they werent logged doesnt mean they werent checked. they were inspected and found to be within range 12.5-13.5.
    They were out of range by as much as 2psi at halftime – 11 of them at least.
    this does not exonerate the pats at all, but it is fun to watch the pats cult jump to conclusions and demand apologies.
    Still waiting for a viable explanation from the pats, only thing we have heard was the weather affected 11/12 balls. Weird weather patterns in NE i guess….

  156. This report just adds doubt to an already troubling situation.

    What is the motivation behind these leaks? The NFL is a multi-billion dollar industry and the Super Bowl is their marquee event. Why shift the public’s attention away from a great matchup? Especially since the only thing more important than the integrity of the game is the public’s perception of the integrity of the game.

    It sounds like a power struggle is going on in the NFL front office. Maybe some anti-Goodell owners have allies in the Commissioner’s office and they are releasing the info to embarrass Goodell and Kraft. I’m sure someone is jealous or angry at the close relationship they enjoy. Goodell has had an awful year and his position cannot be very secure. It doesn’t seem logical that Goodell would stick it to Kraft and the Patriots, and create a media firestorm two weeks before the SB, by running a sting operation over such a minor rules infraction.

  157. Wow… And all this was a whole lot of nothing… Honestly… let the retractions and apologies begin…

    This is gonna be awesome when the Pats the win…

    All of the national abuse the team and its fans took over this mess, the jokes the ridicule, the accusations… all based on innuendo and supposition… now just blew up in all the haters faces…

    All I can say… Go Pats!!!

  158. What seems clear is that the refs themselves thought this was no big deal and just measured the footballs’ psi at halftime to humor the Colts. They didn’t write down the halftime psi’s either, which means the only evidence is the refs’ memory. They just figured, okay, they’re a little under, we’ll pump ’em up and let’s go. They, like any normal person, would consider it insane to think that such a slight deviation would be considered an actionable rules violation, let alone “cheating.” It’s obvious that a slight underinflation makes no difference to what happens on the field, viz. Brady’s superior performance in the second half. Some of these quarterback preferences amount to superstitions and little else.

  159. @stamm….” they were inspected and found to be within range 12.5-13.5.”….says who? All Blandino said was they were ‘gauged’. ‘Literally’ gauged with a pressure gauge or figuratively gauged by the ‘squeeze test’! It is widely known that the refs just give the balls the squeeze test. Looks like it finally caught up to them!

    I’ve been saying all along this is a clear case of an NFL ref not doing his job. If it were that important to the NFL and ball pressure was such a big deal then every ball would be literally gauged and recorded before and after games!

  160. @stamm….” they were inspected and found to be within range 12.5-13.5.”….says who? All Blandino said was they were ‘gauged’. ‘Literally’ gauged with a pressure gauge or figuratively gauged by the ‘squeeze test’! It is widely known that the refs just give the balls the squeeze test. Looks like it finally caught up to them!

    I’ve been saying all along this is a clear case of an NFL ref not doing his job. If it were that important to the NFL and ball pressure was such a big deal then every ball would be literally gauged and recorded before and after games!

    Apology accepted America and the NFL !!

  161. Before anyone starts I am a PATS fan – big time. Lets back the boat up a bit and understand some facts.
    1 – the balls going out were within the restricted limits – TB12 admits he likes it at the lower end so for argument sack lets say 12.5. Luck could care less and his were at 13.5 or 13.
    2- there was a concern raised by INDY and the balls at half time were checked – NOW hypothetically lets say that all NE balls came in at 11.8 to 12.4 would we not all agree that they were under-inflated – YES now lets say that INDY’s balls all were say 12.5-13 are the balls under inflated – NO…..BUT did they deflate – YES.
    3. all the NFL has ever said is that INDY’s ball fell within the rules and NE had SOME balls that were under-inflated. the NFL has never said that INDY’s balls were not deflated only that they were not outside the rules.
    4 . there is no procedure that states that the balls must be recorded only that Refs are required to make sure at the start of the game that the balls fall within the rules and they did that.
    5. there is no procedure that says that the refs are required to make sure the balls remain with the rules…probably wait for it because no one considered that the cold weather or any environmental condition would deflate the ball….guess what they do now
    finally the refs are not to blame the PATs did nothing wrong and the NFLs only crime is letting this thing drag out and not coming out immediately and chastising Mortensen and the ESPN crew for overreacting to a story that had not been completely vetted.
    shame on ESPN, shame on Jerome Bettis and Troy Aikmen for calling people liars before the verdict has been assigned.

  162. I think it’s obvious what happened. The Pats intentionally inflated their ball in a hot, humid indoor room, then handed them off to the officials who measured them, found them to be within regulated limits, but by the time they got outside in the cold, the change in temperature deflated the balls (aided by some of the moisture in the air turning to water and lowering pressure even more).

    So technically, the Pats didn’t break any rules, because there’s no rules against what they did, and the balls they gave to the officials were at regulation pressure. But they did evade the spirit and intention of the rules, which is to have game balls at a certain pressure DURING the game.

  163. Grow up people!!!!
    As soon as you here that it was the Pats! you automatically asume. What ever happen to innocent till proven Quilty!!! Or is it true that “YOU HATE US CAUSE YOU AIN’T US”

  164. And there you have it. Haters gonna hate. If you want to be a better football team, try being a better football team rather than harassing the best, year after year. Will the rest of the national media come out with a mea culpa? Probably not.

  165. Bill and Brady took advantage on slipshod officiating job, a stringer in NapTown too eager to do a fact check is exposed for poor journalism and ESPN hopes everyone just forgets Mort’s mistake. Meanwhile, Goodell has a rat in his office who is leaking misinformation. Forget the speeches about extra points, Roger- get your own house in order first.

  166. As a prior poster observed, what is being overlooked here is that balls set at 12.5 psi (allowed under the rule) have since the inception of this rule been played on the field at lower (and higher) psi under the action conditions of play. The rule clearly envisions this shift in psi, and it is foolish to act as if it were unexpected or evidence of foul play.

  167. A “low standard of proof”? Much like their “low standard of competency” for their Commissioner, no doubt.

  168. “The NFL will apply a low standard of proof to the Deflategate investigation, which means that the NFL doesn’t necessarily need an air-tight case to conclude that the Patriots broke the rules.”

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    Uh, yeah, “low standard” is still a standard. I’ve said this from the beginning – you can’t prove anything unless you know what all of the balls started at before the game.

    So, all the Pats haters may want ridiculous, draconian penalties ala spygate (another non-issue tried in the media which continues to be blown out of proportion) but there’s no way the NFL can issue any sanctions if they can’t even show what the balls started at.

    This has been bungled by the NFL from the beginning, and they’ve been content to sit back, leak misinformation, and let the dumb portions of the media and public whip themselves into a hypocritical moral frenzy. Nice job, Goodell.

  169. And the point of this “Rule” is….nothing! Okay, there is one point NFL gives…So the other team doesn’t cheat. Okay, brilliant. It serves no purpose on or for the game itself, not anymore if it ever did. But it keeps the NFL itself in the game so to speak, sounding important with specific levels/specs of psi etc, etc. Drop the stupid rule, let players inflate/delfate to whatever they want and then, no one is cheating, ball is comfortable for everyone, no advantages, no ridiculous controversies, fines, reputations, and when it’s cold you don’t jam your million dollar frozen fingers on that cold football. I bet this is not the only completely out of date rule the NFL is just too “busy” to change that ends up costing millions to work out–>When stupidity hits the wall. Why not make everyone wear the same size ‘Shoulder Pads”. Yes, Used to be a rule. Leather pilot helmuts too. It all amounts to the same amount of sense. Not about the game, doesn’t need to be in the game.

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