Eagles made big offer to Bucs

AP

As the Eagles try to process the fallout from a failed effort to move up for Marcus Marioto, some additional facts are trickling in regarding the specific pieces coach Chip Kelly dangled to make the move up from No. 20.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles offered the following to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first pick in the draft:  the 20th pick in this year’s draft; Philly’s first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster.

It’s unclear who the other player would have been.  Possibly linebacker Mychal Kendricks.  Possibly Lane Johnson or Fletcher Cox, but the Eagles were expressing reluctance to include either of those pieces.

It’s unknown whether that same offer was made to the Titans, who held the No. 2 pick and ultimately used it on Mariota.  It’s reasonable to assume something similar to that was placed on the table.

This information comes at a time when the Eagles are in full-blown backpedal mode, for a couple of obvious reasons.  First, they need to find a way to mend fences with Bradford, who undoubtedly realizes that he was nearly re-traded.  Second, the next distraction for Kelly and the Eagles (and the Titans) will be the inevitable speculation — which already has begun in some league circles — that Kelly is destined to eventually become the coach of the Titans.

150 responses to “Eagles made big offer to Bucs

  1. What? Why is Kelly destined to become the coach of the Titans? Don’t just say something like that and not back it up with any reason!

  2. People in NFL team front office despise Chump Kelly. He’s an arrogant buffoon. No wonder no one was willing to deal with him.

  3. Why would the Eagles let this out? I see no benefit of them making this known. It’s also not going to be good for the Bucs if Winston flops.

  4. “Second, the next distraction for Kelly and the Eagles (and the Titans) will be the inevitable speculation — which already has begun in some league circles — that Kelly is destined to eventually become the coach of the Titans.”

    Haven’t Titans fans suffered enough?

  5. That’s not a “Big offer”…. to swap from #20 to #1, they offered next years first, and an injury prone QB.

    Big offer, is what the Redskins gave up to swap from #5 to #2. (2012-1st, 2013-1st, 2014-1st, a second and a third for Rams 2012-1st). And that was to move 4 spots up. Not 20.

  6. If the Bucs passed on that deal to get Winston, he’s got a little more pressure to be great. If someone turned down and offer like that you better perform.

  7. 12coltsfan12 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:03 AM
    Kind of a Chip Kelly fan but he is starting to look a little manic…

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    So now because he didn’t offer up a lot he’s a manic?

    And mike that doesn’t really seem like that big of an offer to move up from 20 to 1. I guess he really was telling the truth that he wasn’t going to sell the farm. Whats funny everyone said Chip was going to gut the farm and ruin the eagles, now he ruined the eagles by not gutting the farm and getting his qb.

  8. So now what the heck do they do with Bradford? Package him with some 4th, 5th, 6th rounds to move to the top of the 4th round?

  9. What a boring first round. the only head scratches were the Broncos and Colts.
    Even then they weren’t bad picks. Just one team overpaid and the other got a wr it didn’t need.
    I will miss all the what will chip do speculation though.

  10. Bucs should have taken that deal. There is zero chance Winston is not a bust. Bad character.

  11. This confirms it…Lovie Smith is an idiot. Remember Ditka and Ricky Williams in wedding attire on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Put Lovie and Winston on the cover wearing Joe’s Crab Shack bibs.

  12. The Chipper is going back to college next year to hide out after the Eagles become the mess he has orchestrated. Sorry Iggles fans…

  13. A Chip Kelly for Ken Wiesenhunt trade? Hmmm, very interesting… But only if they can get the Browns 2nd round pick and Johnny Foosball…

  14. Why would fences need to be mended? What threat could the player make that could affect the coach but not effect the player himself.

    “I’m going to dig it.” Ok, then your tape will not look good and you won’t get paid when you are a free agent.

  15. The “other player” was either Cox or Kendricks, and the Bucs front office are raving idiots for not taking that deal. With those players and picks they would have accelerated their rebuilding by 2 years at least.

  16. •The Eagles, as Kelly said Thursday night in Philadelphia, never offered players as part of a package to obtain Mariota. In fact,

    The MMQB learned Thursday night that Kelly never offered the widely rumored packages of either three first-round picks or two first-round picks and Sam Bradford.

  17. Can’t wait until all you clowns get our teams name out of your mouth. Agholor replaces Maclin now we address DB and OL today. ICWT.

  18. But he denies offering players.
    Spectacular lies are the best ones.
    Because he wasn’t successful with the trade offers means this story has more legs. You can think professionals get paid so they don’t mind being treated like commodities, but evidence from many of them is to the contrary.

  19. Second, the next distraction for Kelly and the Eagles (and the Titans) will be the inevitable speculation — which already has begun in some league circles — that Kelly is destined to eventually become the coach of the Titans.

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    what? you just made that up. admit it.

  20. It’s funny listening to all the overcompensating noise from Eagles fans, who deep down know all the faith in Chip is not warranted, as he dismantled the team, one player at a time.

    Now they’re saying he didn’t really try to get Mariota, after dripping all week with anticipation that Chip would pull it off. Wow!

  21. But according to Chip Kelly, no players were ever offered up, ever.

    Are you saying that Kelly doesn’t always tell the truth?

  22. Tampa would’ve had a first this year, a QB, a solid defensive player and the Eagles pick next year, which the way they’re going would mean Tampa gets the first pick AGAIN next year. And with Lovie Smith the way he’s handling that team, they might have the first AND second pick of the draft next year.

  23. Philly talk radio is going to be awesome today! The fans and hosts were all drinking the Chip cool aid all week thinking they had a shot to move up when all along everyone knew they didnt have the ammo.

  24. That’s not a big offer. 2 low first rounders Sam Bradford and most likely Kendricks. Kelly is saner than the media gave him credit for and irresponsible journalist put out crazy offers including Cox who we would never trade.

  25. 12coltsfan12 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:03 AM
    Kind of a Chip Kelly fan but he is starting to look a little manic
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    You’d say the same thing if he pulled off the trade. Chip cannot win with some people.

  26. Chip Kelly can backpedal all he wants, but he is completely straining his credibility by claiming he didn’t offer up any players currently with the Eagles in his attempt to move up. First, he has clearly shown this offseason that no one on that roster has immunity at tribal council. Plus, with the picks the Eagles had to offer, the phone calls with TB and TEN would have been awfully short if players currently on Philly’s roster weren’t put up as part of the offer. Short of trading away the entirety of this years and next years draft, the Eagles couldn’t have come close to getting it done on draft picks alone.

  27. That doesn’t really seem to be that big of an offer. Next year’s first and some pieces parts? That’s actually far less than I expected.

  28. burgandyandgold says:
    May 1, 2015 9:10 AM
    Bucs should have taken that deal. There is zero chance Winston is not a bust. Bad character.
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    Says a guy who reveals his own character by predicting failure for someone else. There’s zero chance you ever succeeded at anything and 100% chance you’ll get mad when someone later, reminds you of your asinine statement.

  29. That’s a big offer to move from 20 to 1?? I would disagree.

    So, basically, you’re saying that every rumor/report is true except the one from Peter King saying the reported Eagles offers are fiction…

  30. zinger92 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:15 AM

    Can’t wait until all you clowns get our teams name out of your mouth.

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    what does that even mean?

  31. If the Eagles don’t start out well, Kelly could lose this team. There is no doubt that he is viewed as a lier by the players on that team.

    And Bradford has to not feel great about Kelly as well. What I’m saying is that the seeds of discontent are already in place so when things don’t go well on the field, the dislike for Kelly will be magnified by the players who dislike him the most.

  32. baldbuc says:
    May 1, 2015 9:07 AM

    Why would the Eagles let this out? I see no benefit of them making this known. It’s also not going to be good for the Bucs if Winston flops.

    _________________________________

    Yeah, there is NO WAY the Bucs would have let this out…

  33. The hate for Kelly is so ridiculous. Its a qb driven league and he’s doing what any coach should do, which is secure a qb of his choosing. He knows Mariota better than anyone so why not go for it. And make no mistake, if Mariota doesn’t fare well in Tennessee and Titans start to consider options he could end up in Philadelphia in a year or two. At the same rime, don’t be surprised if Eagles draft a qb today!

  34. Are we really going to have to hear Chip Kelly and Marcus Mariota rumors for the rest of these guys’ careers? I was hoping that the morning after draft day we could stop talking about this deal since it’s not happening. Now you talk about how Chip Kelly is destined to coach the Titans because Mariota is there. Just stop the insanity and find a new storyline.

  35. People seem to forget that Chip Kelly was a winner long before Mariotta and long after.

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    A winner of what? Philly is so starved to have something good happen in it’s city that they are willing to thrust greatness upon anyone. (ie. see dom brown and claude giroux). He’s just a guy philly. not a genius.

  36. Regardless whether the deal was fair or not, can you imagine how many team’s draft boards would have been wrecked if Mariota had gone #1 over Winston? It would have been great TV if nothing else.

  37. If The commish came out and said “the Eagles select a hot pile of dog poop to play wherever chip feels he can play” people would be saying how this just might work and if anyone can make a dog poop play good football it’s chip the genius!!!!!

  38. The next Sam Bradford trade may make history. For the first time a team will give up their 5th round pick and a QB to move DOWN in the 5th round.

  39. Kelly just seems to have a lot of egg on his face this morning. In trying to assemble the ‘Oregon East’ version as an NFL team, he was denied the biggest part of the puzzle, the quarterback.

  40. All you girls hyperventilating, relax. I am glad he couldn’t make a deal. It was stupid to offer Cox in any deal. We aren’t taking trading up for Andrew Luck here. He is a moron, blah, blah,….

  41. Lot of Chip Jealousy out there.

    Replaced Foles with Bradford.

    Replaced Mccoy with Murray and Matthews

    Replaced Carry Williams with Maxwell

    Replaced Fletcher with Thurmond

    Maclin walked for Big money and was replaced with the USC WR Nelson and Miles Austin

    Added ILB Kiko Alonzo

    Resigned Brandon Graham

    Why are people pretending like this is crazy or some kinda horrible dismantle?

  42. so they offered their late first this year, most likely a second half first next year, a qb who i dont’ think has ever played a full season, and some no name for the first overall pick. winston or mariota may or may not be good qbs but their is at least hope they could save a franchise. a bunch of middling talent isn’t going to turn a 2-14 team around. look at what the skins gave up for rg3 and start from there if you want to make trades like that.

  43. LOL

    Ok so Kelly trying to trade up for a QB he knows and loves is crazy.

    But the Vikings trying to Trade AP for 50 first round picks is totally logical.

    Such is the mind of a Vikings fan.

    Please

  44. So they took a shot. Obviously, neither Tampa nor Tennessee had any desire to trade unless someone made an absolutely rediculous offer. Noone did.

  45. craigruby20 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:20 AM

    That’s not a big offer. 2 low first rounders Sam Bradford and most likely Kendricks.
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    Well if everyone is right and Kelly is wrecking the team, and Tampa still has Lovie running the team…take that deal and Tampa would’ve ended up with both the first and second overall picks next year.

  46. Per a unnamed source again, what a joke. Kelly offers picks and the guys who have been on the table – Mathis, Boykin, and Kendricks.

    From my sources I saw it was this years 1st and 3rd, 2016 First, and the 2017 First. After that was rejected, the 2017 dropped out of the equation, and said players mentioned above were inserted – 3 starters with 2 All Pros, and they said no. TB and TENN are insane not to take either of the offers considering the prospects were Winston and Mariota.

    Sam Bradford is a hell of a QB, so even if Mariota was drafted by Philadelphia, Sam would still be starting this year while Mariota is brought up to speed.

    Next year when TB and TENN struggle yet again, this story will rise from the ashes, and another attempt to defame Chip and the Eagles players will be made.

  47. LOL! This couldn’t have happened to a bigger liar than Chip. Instead of being straight forward, he refused to admit when asked by the media about their interest in Mariotta. He was emphatic with denial when asked, even going so far as to swear that Bradford was the man going forward. Well chipster, put your money where your mouth is, name Sam the starter and hope & pray your average at best qb can win you .500 % of your games this year, don’t expect any better. You had a very good, young up and coming qb in Foles, who is no slouch especially when two years ago the guy throws for 27/2. Even HOF qb’s could only dream of being that efficient in this league while facing top tier defenses every week. But, you know better than everybody, and Bradford is a huge upgrade at the position, right chippy boy? LOL!

  48. Not an Eagles fan, but I love Chip Kelly. Fun to see a guy who goes for it, and doesn’t really care what anyone else things.

    If he actually wins a SB doing it his way, it’s going to cause a ripple effect among other owners.

    If I was the Bucs, it would all depend on who that other player is. If it was one of the three, plus Bradford, and two number 1s, not a bad haul.

    I’d prefer 2 picks and 2 players, not Bradford, and give Glennon a shot. Seems to be a good system guy, not going to hurt you.

  49. Chip Kelly is to blame. Basically he can’t coach if Oregon Ducks players are the only ones that are suitable for him.

  50. Still think Bradford can be a good QB, but needs to stay healthy, and let’s face it, he’s been on some bad teams with not much else around him.

    Wouldn’t be at all stunned to see him have a really nice year.

  51. The Eagles are a full-blown freak show at the present moment. Should Chip Kelly be drug-tested? Is he a complete psycho? I really don’t understand trading someone who was statistically one of the best QBs in the league a few years ago in Nick Foles for someone who can’t stay on the field in Bradford. And now they want to trade Bradford and half the team for Mariota, who will have no weapons to work with since Chip Kelly traded them all. If Chip Kelly was so in love with Mariota from the beginning, then why not keep Foles and use him as a bargaining chip rather than going through these shenanigans that make no sense. Or is that too logical?

  52. If chip could have done a deal with Cleveland, and offered two 2015 first rounders to the titans along with a couple defensive players, the trade may have worked. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for the titans not to take that deal. They have the weakest roster in the league. Getting players and additional picks would have made them competitive. Mettenberger did look fairly decent for a rookie on the weakest team in the league.

  53. I’m not buying any of this. All the pre-draft speculation was wrong, now we’re supposed to believe the shoulda, woulda, coulda stuff?

  54. Who cares it didnt happened and if Mariota was there guy there sure would have found away to get him. Should have given Bradford to the Browns for one of there picks if he wanted to get his guy.

  55. The bright side for Kelly is that Mariota will ruin Ken Whisenhunt’s career because spread offense QBs can’t play in the NFL.

  56. How is this is a “big offer”? Unless the Eagles pick in the Top 10 next year, the Bucs would have only had the chance to draft a lower tier CB or DT this year and a first round pick next year (with no guarantee of a spot), utilize a gimpy QB and pick up an unnamed player. Given what the Skins gave up for RGIII, I would say this was a very weak offer.

  57. There is another guy the Eagles can possibly draft at QB and that is someone who the eagles head coach is familiar with,… Brett Hundley… He can do everything Chip wants him to do… I wouldn’t be surprise… Indeed…

  58. Don’t know what’s more embarrassing Chimp Kelly desperately trying to trade anything he had to get to #2 and failing or being a player on this team.

  59. This is even more perplexing. Why acquire all these mismatched pieces if you weren’t going bigger?

    However, it’s still really funny. I’ve been telling you that those of us who’ve followed Chip for years understand he’s an over rated gimmick coach. It’s why he never won big games.

    Yet Eag fans want to pretend not getting MM was a good thing.

    It may have been if Kelly hadn’t made ridiculous moves in preparation of the trade he was sure was a done deal based on his inflated ego.

    Now you have Sam I Ain’t as your #1, in your fast paced, option read offense.

    Then when he goes down in qtr 2 of game 1 you’ll follow up with Sanchez though I wouldn’t be surprised if Tebow makes the team just so Kelly can proclaim his genius.

    The icing on the cake? A receiver with your first pick. You had the third highest scoring offense and the 28th defense but Chip, always the genius, knows the way to win the big one is scoring more points more quickly (your offensive TOP was lowest in the NFL which means your defense was bent over) and watching your defense get shredded (just like it “worked” in college).

    Sorry to break it to you but adding Maxwell and a couple hand me downs won’t be enough.

  60. chris6523 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:23 AM
    Chip Kelly can backpedal all he wants, but he is completely straining his credibility by claiming he didn’t offer up any players currently with the Eagles in his attempt to move up.
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    His credibility…with whom? You? I suppose the Titans confirming the same thing doesn’t count.

    Secondly, you have to understand how NFL coaches are. They are liars…all of them. Why? Because they have to be in order to protect their team and gain maximum advantage. It’s the same reason hockey teams list broken legs as “lower body injury.”

    Regardless, Kelly is downright overflowing with information compared to Andy Reid. Or Belichick. Or anyone else I can imagine. He openly said they rated Mariota as the top QB, but wouldn’t mortgage the team to get him. Hmm…guess what happened? Exactly what he said.

  61. “As the Eagles try to process the fallout…”

    Seriously, this isn’t a friggin soap opera. You were all wrong, just suck it up. There is no fallout. We needed a WR, we got a WR, that’s it. Simple, straightforward.

  62. That’s not really much for a “franchise QB”…think about it. This year’s 20th pick…next year maybe anywhere from 15 or back, a QB who is a FA at the end of the year and another player…..Cox, Kendricks (FA) at end of yr, or Lane Johnson who is good, not great. I would have been elated at that trade if it’s all it took.

  63. A winner of what? Philly is so starved to have something good happen in it’s city that they are willing to thrust greatness upon anyone. (ie. see dom brown and claude giroux). He’s just a guy philly. not a genius.

    Seriously do not ever mention Dom Brown and Giroux in the same breathe. One is a terrible player with no instincts, the other is a captain and annual all star. As for the Birds, the hate we receive is laughable. Yesterday everyone said Chip ran the franchise into the ground bc he was gonna trade away everything. Now he does the logical thing and pick the perfect replacement for Maclin and again he’s ruining the franchise. I’m sorry but Andy Reid did far more damage at the end of his tenure than Chip has done. No matter what Kelly does you will hate. Everyone said his system wouldn’t work. WRONG. Then it was the league had easily caught up with him. WRONG. And now it’s “he’s destroyed the Eagles”, which I believe will also be wrong. Watch us post another 10+ wins this year. It may not be a SB but can the haters need to shut up if the Birds make the playoffs. And as so many are so quick to point out, we have no Lombardi Trophys so atleast our coach is making an exciting attempt to change that. None of you can say surely that he’s wrong.

  64. Not sold on Winston so I would have taken the deal. Wouldn’t have been surprised to be able to find him sitting at 20 either. I think a humbling draft slide would have been good for him.

    Regardless, I feel like the Eagles fans owe Tampa a thank you this morning. haha

  65. Mend fences? I’m sorry but I thought this was a business. No room for personal feelings in business. Bradford is a grown man, I am sure he won’t throw himself on the floor to kick and scream. Come on now….

  66. If this is true, then both the Bucs and the Titans are IDIOTS for not taking that deal. Teams that pick early in the draft are not one player away from being good.

  67. Winston threw 18 INT’s last year….in COLLEGE. Double that for a rookie facing real NFL DB’s and they’ll be regretting not taking the deal. Lovie Smith is making Greg “dive at the knees for the victory formation” Schiano look good.
    My condolences to Tampa and Titans fans, I think they turned down this deal and got Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder.

  68. What exactly has Chip Kelly done to be considered an NFL genius? In the words of Bill Parcells, let’s not start the bust for canton yet!

  69. Someone needs to call the Eagles and let them know they made a big offer because according to them, they didn’t.

    It was probably similar to the offer they didn’t make to the Titans.

  70. If true, the Bucs should’ve taken it. Maybe make the Eagles throw in a 2nd this year and next, as well.

    But yeah, say what you want about Bradford but no one deserves to be treated like this.

    Oh, well, wait…maybe this was leaked so that he’ll WANT to take a trade to the Browns, or whomever. Although if I was the Browns I’d say the price for Bradford is significantly less today than it was yesterday, knowing the Chip doesn’t really want him.

  71. That was not a big offer obviously when you consider they were trying to go from the 20th spot to first.

    That was more like offering to trade a few Hondas for a Maybach.

  72. icup89 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:51 AM
    Lot of Chip Jealousy out there.

    Replaced Foles with Bradford.

    Replaced Mccoy with Murray and Matthews

    Replaced Carry Williams with Maxwell

    Replaced Fletcher with Thurmond

    Maclin walked for Big money and was replaced with the USC WR Nelson and Miles Austin

    Added ILB Kiko Alonzo

    Resigned Brandon Graham

    Why are people pretending like this is crazy or some kinda horrible dismantle?
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    Dude, you just showed how DESPERATE you are to believe that Chip Kelly is THE MESSIAH by citing Miles Austin as a positive signing. The guy is constantly injured, and last year had 47 Rec for 568 yrds and 2 TDs. He’s not the Pro Bowler he was 5+ years ago.

    Good luck with that.

  73. There’s no way that Bradford was clueless about the Eagles’ agenda. I would bet that this potential outcome was upfront with Bradford the moment that he signed with the Eagles.

  74. Why do we always believe reporters who constantly get played by teams trying to start rumors for their own potential benefit?

  75. WHO YA GOING TO BELIEVE A EX AMBULANCE CHASER NAMED FLORIO OR A RESPECTED COLLEGE AND NOW NFL HEAD COACH

  76. @kenmasters34, “That’s not a “Big offer”…. to swap from #20 to #1, they offered next years first, and an injury prone QB.

    Big offer, is what the Redskins gave up to swap from #5 to #2. (2012-1st, 2013-1st, 2014-1st, a second and a third for Rams 2012-1st). And that was to move 4 spots up. Not 20.”

    The Redskins went from 6 to 2 not 5… but they still gave up a ton… lol

  77. Kelly will be lucky to be the Eagles coach at the end of this season! Bradford? Really? He has zero mobility and has never made it through the season! You’ve got Sanchez as backup and Tebone! Chip has made the Eagles into a circus! No playoffs for these guys!

  78. summitmech says:
    May 1, 2015 9:06 AM
    What? Why is Kelly destined to become the coach of the Titans?
    =================================

    Because as things currently stand, KEN WHISENHUNT is charged with developing your new franchise quarterback.

  79. Chip traded key players from that team to rebuild the Ducks, didn’t get the missing piece he wanted/needed, now we can all sit back and lol at him

  80. zinger92 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:15 AM
    Can’t wait until all you clowns get our teams name out of your mouth. Agholor replaces Maclin now we address DB and OL today. ICWT.

    ………………….

    If he would have kept Maclin, he wouldn’t have had to use that pick to replace him.

    He could have used that pick to either address that horrible secondary or O-Line.

  81. “Dude, you just showed how DESPERATE you are to believe that Chip Kelly is THE MESSIAH by citing Miles Austin as a positive signing. The guy is constantly injured, and last year had 47 Rec for 568 yrds and 2 TDs. He’s not the Pro Bowler he was 5+ years ago.

    Good luck with that.”

    _____________________________

    Austin is a 4th/5th option, seems like you expect him and every signing to be a pro bowler! what a joke! Austin is hands down better than Riley Cooper and currently better than Huff! Agholor and Matthews are going to be the one of the best combos in the league this year! Lets not forget Sproles, Mathews, Ertz, Celek also catching passes too! This offense will also have a power run game!

    You must miss Jackson and McCoy and feel butthurt! Those two are pieces of trash in person if you ever met them and deserve to be gone! Maclin was the only humble guy that left that fans should be sadden by, but he is with Big Red now – still much respect for coach and WR there.

  82. Why the Titans and Bucs were smart NOT to take the offer from the Eagles:

    1. Mathis is a product of the system. Older player. Adds no value to a team.
    2. Cox will be looking for Suh money with his next contract. Titans won’t be contenders by that time and are notoriously cheap.
    3. Sam Bradford. Nuff said.
    4. Boykin is MAYBE 5’6″. big MAYBE.
    5. 1st rd pick 2015 was too low to be of real impact player value. Closer to a high second rounder than a first. When you make these deals, you need to be at 12 or better in the current year of the trade in order to see real value in trading back.
    6. No second round pick for 2015. That would have to be a must. Given that the Eagles aren’t a perennial basement team, (cleveland, raiders, jags), the future 1st rounders (2016/2017) for the Eagles have to be looked at as falling somewhere between 20-32 (Essentially high second rounders).

    So what it comes down to is, there’s was a low probably the Eagle’s draft picks, no matter how many, would allow the team to draft an impact player in the first round nor would they be likely to have the services of Cox for more than two years. To make a true blockbuster deal for your 1st or 2nd overall pick, you have to believe that you will be getting an impact player for the next 5-10 years when it all shakes out. Therefore, as a GM you prefer to have a high 1st rounder (3-12 overall) or multiple 1st and second rounders in the current year of the trade.

    The Eagles combination of draft picks and player value just weren’t high enough.

  83. For those that didn’t get the joke: Florio suggested that Chip would coach Tenn b/c Chip’s in love with Mariota and the insane amount that he was offering to the Titans for him.

  84. dallaswun2100 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:44 AM
    Eagles 0 Championships! Rest of division got you guys smoked! LMAO!!!

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    The Eagles have a few Champions. They do not have a Superbowl. If your going to rip a team. At least know what your writing!

  85. If Chip can pull this off and has a successful 2015 season he’ll be the next mayor of Philly.

  86. I’m sorry, but anyone just outright believing this horse**** needs to look around and notice how many times this story has changed JUST TODAY. Ive heard it all, from a first and a second, plus three players to a bunch next year and bradford and Kendricks this year. ALL of these stories come from these “inside sources”, but they all have a different story. Meanwhile the Eagles AND the Titans are saying the offers never happened..and everyone is calling them liars. sigh. Im so over it.

  87. Anybody out there who has experience selling a car on Craig’s list? If not, here’s how it goes; you have a car with a legit value of let’s say $5000. You are hoping to get all of that but might settle for $4700 or maybe after a week or two, $4500.

    Some knuckle head (read Chip Kelly) calls you on the phone to offer $2500. I never really blame the guy for calling, he’s only trying to get the best deal but at the same time, don’t insult me with such a low ball offer.

    TB or TN was in the same position, it cost them nothing to listen but never really took it as a serious offer, just the delusions of a mad man.

  88. *bangs head against table*

    The Eagles offered the 20th pick in this year’s draft; Philly’s first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster!?!?!?!

    That’s NOT a big offer. Based upon past trades, that is less than half what the Eagles would have needed to trade.

    Isn’t this the same website that said, when they did the story about the draft chart, that the Eagles ENTIRE DRAFT was not enough to move them up to #2? Now you’re saying that the Eagles offered that poo-poo platter to move up to #1?

    Three possibilities here:

    1) someone’s lying
    2) Chip made an offer he knew would be rejected so he could tell people he tried
    3) someone’s lying

  89. a guy asks what the author meant in saying chip “was destined to be the coach of the titans” and criticizes him of not giving a reason, and he gets 600+up votes??? umm how about you and and 600 morons who agreed with your comment, learn a little thing called inference…people are going to start linking kelly to the titans, because the titans now have the guy that everyone thinks chip believes is the ideal QB for his offense. and the author is right. if the eagles fall apart over the next year or two, and the titans continue to be sub-par then we will read hundreds of stories about how chip is going to be fired by the eagles and that tennessee will respond by firing wisenhunt and bringing in chip for a reunion with mariota. same idea can work the other way though…if mariota struggles in his first two pro seasons and looks like he isn’t the answer in tennessee then we will get to read hundred of stories about how chip is going to try to trade for mariota since he can succeed in the nfl as long as he’s running chip’s offense. then there will be related stories about the package the titans turned down from the eagles on draft night 2015 only to turn around a couple years later and trade him to philly for a mid round draft pick or two.

  90. tangovader says:
    May 1, 2015 12:55 PM
    Why the Titans and Bucs were smart NOT to take the offer from the Eagles:

    You could have just said that it was a terrible offer that within 50% of what the Eagles would have needed offer, no matter what player they included, and saved yourself alot of typing.

    Or, since the story has changed a hundred times already and that both teams have denied it happened, you could have just skipped it altogether.

  91. @ Amgdds….

    Or Bradford Could Simply Not Sign An Extension And The Eagles Will Be In Even Worse Shape Than Kelly Has Put Them In Now. Anyone Thinking Sanchez Or Tebow Are Going To Be Remotely Capable On A 16 Game Clip? Didn’t Think So.

    Chip Kelly=Josh McDaniels

  92. These guys are professionals, whose feelings are hurt over all this doesn’t mean a thing. Also coaches lie, gm’s lie….it’s what makes the draft exciting to watch.

  93. People here talking about Chip Kelly “needing to mend fences with Sam Bradford” remind me of Fredo in “The Godfather.”

    “Mike! You do not come to Las Vegas and talk to a man like Moe Greene like that!”

    Kelly has to make up with Sam Bradford? Who the hell is Sam Bradford? He has done WHAT in the NFL? How many passing titles? How many playoff games? Iron man athlete? Team leader?

    Laughable.

    Why should Lovie Smith have taken a backloaded deal for Sam Bradford, a crappy No. 20 pick, a pig in a poke next year, and a player I haven’t heard of?

    If you ask me, Kelly made an offer that Lovie simply could not take. He would have been fleeced. Maybe Kelly made the best offer he could, maybe he was trying to send a message to Bradford. But one thing is certain — Bradford is in his sixth season, he will make $13 million this year, he represents a $13 million cap hit, and his contract is up. So they probably cannot cut them, but this is it for his Eagles career.

    The pressure is not on Kelly. It’s on Bradford.

  94. That’s funny…It’s a story in the media, so it must have happened. We all know media story’s are right…yeah, right!

  95. An offer like that is nowhere close to be able to move from 20 to 1st overall.

    It would have taken #20 plus at least next 2 years 1st rounders and even then, that may not have been enough. They’d probably have to add another 2nd plus a player.

    Teams tend to value picks more than players. Unless they were offering a 24 year old all pro player at a position of need in addition to #20 and next years first, there’s no way the any team would have moved from #1 to #20, especially if there was a player there that they viewed as their franchise QB for the foreseeable future.

    Chip Kelly was never in the game with an offer like that and now looks foolish by showing his weak hand and chancing the risk of disgruntling the players that were thrown around as being trade bait.

    This was a lose-lose proposition for Kelly. If he gets the trade, he would have given up so much and mortgaged his near future while Mariota is adjusting as well as the next few years because of the draft picks that he would have been involved would be the building blocks of their team for the next several years, as well as losing the ability to replace the current players he would have had to give up. But the trade didn’t pan out and now he looks silly, upsets his current QB stable and the players that he put on the trade block

    This whole ordeal was not nearly worth the failed opportunity of acquiring Mariota

  96. jake6881 says:
    May 1, 2015 1:26 PM
    dallaswun2100 says:
    May 1, 2015 9:44 AM
    Eagles 0 Championships! Rest of division got you guys smoked! LMAO!!!

    —————————-

    The Eagles have a few Champions. They do not have a Superbowl. If your going to rip a team. At least know what your writing!
    ====================================

    Really Jake. From 1960? Eagle fans are the most hilarious NFL fans hands down LOL. Super Bowls from a few years ago don’t count but championships from 55 years ago do. Only in Filthadelphia does this reasoning work. And on top of it, 15 of your Eagle brethren agreed with you making reference to 55 year old championship, these are the same dopes that would tell cowboy & redskin fans that they’re super bowl championships from 20 years ago don’t matter. You guys are so funny! LOL

  97. A #20, another first round pick most likely in the same area (20ish), and an underachieving qb who can’t stay healthy? Plus POSSIBLY another player for the #1 overall?? I’m really glad my Bucs threw that bait back where it came from.

  98. How about the Eagles trade Kelly to the Titans for Whisenhunt and Mariota? That would send the Chipper straight to the loonie farm.

  99. Harve Gulch Cowboy says:
    May 1, 2015 9:11 AM

    Please finish destroying the Eagles before going to Tennessee.
    Thanks-Cowboys fan
    _______________
    C’mon Harve, hes trying his best, give him some credit, we won’t be able to tell if the team is destroyed until the season starts.

  100. If Chipper had the smarts, he would have held on to Nick Foles. Then the Bucs might have had an interest. Sam Bradford is made of glass and just isn’t good trade bait for the Eagles. Too bad, Chipper. You just aren’t an NFL caliber coach…

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