Teams can’t meet with La’el Collins, yet

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As the pursuit of LSU tackle La’el Collins commences, there’s a problem. The pursuit of him can’t commence yet, and least not in certain ways.

“Clubs are prohibited from visiting a player who was eligible for the 2015 Draft at his campus or residence if the player has withdrawn from school and final exams have yet to conclude at the school,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT via email. “This includes drafted players, any undrafted players that have signed as free agents, and any undrafted players that have yet to sign.”

Collins has withdrawn from LSU, and final exams have not concluded there yet. (Finals are happening this week.)  So teams can’t visit a player at his campus or residence.

There’s possibly a loophole in the rule, if for example Bills coach Rex Ryan met with Collins not on campus or at his residence but at a local Applebee’s. But that seems to be too easy of a fix to be permitted.

Regardless, LSU finals are scheduled to last until May 9. Until then, restrictions apply to the direct efforts to recruit Collins.  Which would explain his agent’s recent statement that Collins won’t be meeting with any teams at this time.

83 responses to “Teams can’t meet with La’el Collins, yet

  1. If he gets cleared then let him go in the supplemental draft … if not then he has to sign with Dallas.

  2. Is it permissible for team’s to send players to recruit him? If not, the tire fire that is the Miami Dolphins will surely pay…

  3. Uh-oh. Someone forgot to tell Rex Ryan who already met with him & Coach Philben who is otw with LSU teammates… per your writing partners.

  4. Hmm, didn’t he meet with Rex Ryan, and didn’t MIA send players to recruit him??? Sounds like tampering to me. Take away draft picks

  5. Is the NFL now the NCAA? Are there restrictions on how much they can spend at Applebee’s?

    What a joke…..

  6. The kid wants to be great.
    He wants to win championships.
    He wants to be part of a dynasty.
    That means he is Kansas City bound.

    Andy Reid has assembled a dynasty team that will dominate the league for a decade. All teams are now trying to emulate “The Chiefs Way”.

    Kansas City 31
    Green Bay 17

    With the 32nd pick of the 2016 Draft, thee Kansas City Chiefs select…….

  7. Collins and Rex met at Ruffino’s, an upscale italian restaurant. Applebee’s is for guys like Willis McGahee….

  8. There was no violation by Rex – they met at a restaurant. The rules state you cannot meet at the school campus or players residence.

  9. “Applebee’s Rex!? Really? Cant take the young man to a legit steakhouse?”

    The article said applebees, however the reporter last night had them meeting at an Italian restaurant eating $50 crab and steak dinners.

  10. “IF for example” does not mean they actually went to Applebee’s. God damn people are dumb.

  11. I wonder if Miami and Buffalo’s ” hot pursuit” is related to the Patriots stockpiling of edge rushers and other personnel capable of rushing the passer. It’s clear from the Patriots free agent signings and draft that they’re expecting pressure to compensate for a suspect secondary.
    .

  12. Nothing will happen to any of these teams who have contacted Collins- except if the Patriots did it ex Jet employees Goodell and Kensil would have a 200 day investigation and everyone on this site would be calling for a Belichick suspension and loss of a first round pick–and you know that is the ridiculous truth

  13. Surely if Rex met him at Applebee’s, the Patriots have video of the meeting.

  14. > If he gets cleared then let him go in the supplemental draft

    The league can’t do that, because the CBA specifically prohibits that. If you’re not drafted, you’re just an UDFA, end of story. Unless the NFLPA gets involved and helps work out some kind of exception.

  15. The big question is if Collins is the next Rae Carruth / Aaron Hernandez or not. I really do not think the answer to that question is going to come out in the next 4 days.

    Bills and Phins seem prepared to take any risk to try and end the Pats domination of the AFC East.

    That is to be expected so can’t blame those teams for that too much, but the rule seems to have an obvious intent to allow a student opportunity to complete his education. Can’t wait 4 days?

  16. I have to admit I’m kinda confused…. If the kid is good enough to warrant certain head coaches coming to ‘recruit’ him, then why didn’t they just draft him in the first place? Also, Collins ex-girlfriend was shot and killed as she opened her door and the baby that survived might be Collins’? I think I’d want to take my time before I decided to clear anybody, if I was running the investigation…. #justsayin’

  17. All that means is if the patriots contact him they will be ripped 24/7 on ESPN and lose a first round pick.
    Anyone else and it’s a $10k fine

  18. The only thing Fat Rex tampered with was the young man’s steak upon arrival at the table. Rex is starting to look ano ” Rex ” ic….

  19. Rex didn’t tamper with anything. The article says “IF” and “FOR EXAMPLE”

    It doesn’t say Ryan did meet with him at Applebee’s.

  20. I’m sure the rule was enacted to keep team’s from being unwanted distractions. When the player goes out of his way to meet at a restaurant, it’s clearly not a situation he was trying to avoid.

  21. Doesn’t prohibit Miami players from bringing Collins back to Florida to meet with the team.

  22. Fine Use, take away a Draft pick.. I mean the Pats are our Big Bros and they cheat every single year so who cares. Collins will be a Dolphin and people are going to HATE!! Take a pick, give it to LSU? Kid is done with college and should be able to talk to who ever.

  23. The collusion that kept Collins from getting picked in the first place doesn’t seem to have stuck past the end of the draft. Apparently, some coaches didn’t get the memo.

  24. If I have to read about someone exploiting another loophole in rules/laws im going to throw up. America.

  25. I LOVE IT! Miami is so clever. They got the boys to fly Ross 1 out to Baton Rouge to pick up Collins and bring him back to Miami. Totally legal! He will prob hang at Alberts house until the 9th of May then sign his contract.

  26. I hope for his (and the NFL’s) sake he gets completely cleared.
    Then go the CFL and earn several million more than the NFL will allow an UFA to earn.

  27. DawgPound83 says:
    May 5, 2015 2:47 PM
    Applebee’s Rex!? Really? Cant take the young man to a legit steakhouse?

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    I seriously doubt Rex Ryan asked him to meet at Applebees… What probably ensued was Ryan asking Collins where he wanted to meet up… Collins probably named the first restaurant that came to his mind and Rex obliged. Ryan has used some of the top of the line restaurants in Buffalo to meet up with potential Free Agents… places where they charge $150 a plate… I am willing to bet that this meet up was more about convenience than trying to impress the kid.

    I understand Miami’s angle with sending former LSU players to meet up with Collins, but don’t you think it would mean much more to him having the Head Coach or GM take time out of their busy schedules to persuade him to sign? Maybe not though, maybe he would be more impressed by possible future teammates attempting the persuasion. I guess we will find out soon enough.

  28. Rex went to Applebee’s because of the relaxed dress code. He requested Collins show up in flip flops so he could get a good look at his feet.

  29. The commissioner should do something related to his job — in this situation– And transfer Collins’ rights into the Supplemental Draft.

  30. 6ball says: May 5, 2015 3:05 PM

    I wonder if Miami and Buffalo’s ” hot pursuit” is related to the Patriots stockpiling of edge rushers and other personnel capable of rushing the passer. It’s clear from the Patriots free agent signings and draft that they’re expecting pressure to compensate for a suspect secondary.

    “““““““““`
    Fins o-line has needed help for much longer than the pats resent draft.

    150 sacks for the last 2 seasons.

  31. DawgPound83 says:
    May 5, 2015 2:47 PM
    Applebee’s Rex!? Really? Cant take the young man to a legit steakhouse?
    ——————————————
    It did not take Rex long to embrace the Buffalo lifestyle.

  32. Typical NFL rules.

    You can’t meet with him unless the meeting is conducted in pig latin or esperanto.

    Any violation will receive a Harrumph from the league office.

    Next story, please.

  33. Is the NFL really going to tell ex-college players if they can hang around with some past ex-player friends? And when and where they can hang out together?…… O.K.

  34. La’El welcome to Don Shula’s Steakhouse would you like your salad with or before your meal? Would you also like to start with some wine? …Applebee’s?

    This kid is going to be a Dolphin for sure.

  35. Why is it that a team won’t use a very late pick to draft certain guys but then there is stampede of coaches and front office personnel scrambling to sign them right after the draft?

    If you want him that bad, just take him instead of some bum you’re probably just gonna end up cutting anyway.

  36. Speaking of collusion, I wonder if the owners stayed away from Collins because he was wanted for questioning, or because they had a chance to underpay a talented player.

    Also, funny that the league’s newest owner was the first to approach Collins. Is it possible the new kid in town actually wants to do right by his team? The other owners ain’t gonna like that.

  37. Rex is just lookin for another free meal, if he plans it right, he may get there on one of those all you can eat specials.

  38. “But that seems to be too easy of a fix to be permitted.”

    Of course, because Rog likes to write his rules on the fly.

  39. You can really tell how dumb most people are commenting on this story.

    Rex Ryan did NOT meet with this guy at Applebees.

    The article stated IF he would it would be a legal loophole.

    Can any of you dingbats even read or comprehend?

    It is really frustrating reading post after post from the oblivious fools posting their outrage.

    And no I am not a Ryan fan or Bills fan.

  40. Teams are interested all of the sudden. But wouldn’t waste a 7th round pick on him days ago although he wasn’t a suspect. Sounds like Roger made it clear that nobody draft him. Like he made the Rams draft Michael Sam.

  41. As has been asked; why not just draft him?… To under-pay him of course. Capitalism demands the cheapest labor possible.

    Only in the land of the free can an employee choose their employer, unless of course they’re an athlete, in which case they have to be subjected to the immoral yet legal “slave-sale”, known as a draft, where they become the legal possession of an organization.

  42. “As has been asked; why not just draft him?… To under-pay him of course. Capitalism demands the cheapest labor possible.

    Only in the land of the free can an employee choose their employer, unless of course they’re an athlete, in which case they have to be subjected to the immoral yet legal “slave-sale”, known as a draft, where they become the legal possession of an organization.”

    Oh no! The poor athletes who are being forced to play a game for millions of dollars. We’ll keep them in our prayers.

  43. He didn’t want to be drafted after round 3 and said that if he was drafted in rounds 4-7,he would sit out the year and go back into the draft, which is a legal move. If he goes undrafted, he can’t go back into the draft, but he can CHOOSE where he wants to play. After 2 years, he can sign a much larger deal if he commands it.

  44. “I have no respect for players who commit sexual assaults and beat up women and in fact, there’s no room for that in this league” Robert Kraft to Floyd Mayweather in the owners box…

  45. So this guy drops out of school before exams. So does that mean that he wasn’t actually studying anything he could be tested on?
    I guess I missed the point. I mean it is the SEC after all.

  46. I don’t get why someone didn’t spend a 7th round pick on him to control his rights, it’s not like 7th rounders usually make the team anyways. I get that it’s not a good public relations move to draft Collins, but the police have said publicly that he isn’t a suspect from the beginning. All a GM would have to do to get people to chill out is say something like (we believe the situation will resolve itself shortly, Collins is a guy who we think can really help our football team, the police have said he isn’t a suspect, and if for some reason he is charged and believed to be connected in anyway, shape, or form we will release him and move on). Worst case scenario maybe it’s a story for a few days, but after that no one will care unless he somehow ends up getting charged. Drafting Collins in the first 4 rounds not knowing what’s going on is one thing, but not investing a 7th round pick for a guy who is most likely innocent and could be the best offensive lineman in the draft seems crazy to me. For example, I know my Vikings have a gaping hole the size of Lake Michigan at Left Guard right now and Collins could have been the perfect guy to fill it. I’m pretty sure 6 months from now there will 31 teams kicking themselves for not taking a chance on him.

  47. As a native Louisianian, who prides himself on accuracy and Lsu football , the restaurant Rex and Collins went to was Ruffinos- outstanding seafood and steaks. GEAUX Tigers.

  48. Posters are calling his agent an idiot. It seems, imo, that they made a smart move making sure no one picked him in the 6th or 7th round. They realized he wasn’t going to be a top pick with the murder investigation just starting and knew his best position would be an a undrafted rookie free agent

  49. The Jets drafting Leonard Williams pretty much guaranteed he’s not choosing the bills or the Dolphins if he wants to get paid in 3 years. If he’s playing for anyone in the AFC east it will be the Jets.

  50. Does this create a future precedent to beat the system? A prospect avoids slotted salary in order to make more money as UFA? If Collins makes more than he would have via draft then the answer is yes.

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