Commissioner’s power under Article 46 has been present since the first CBA

AP

After the NFL imposed a four-game suspension on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, some in the media have pointed out that the Commissioner has the power to handle the appeal of Brady’s suspension only because the NFL Players Association gave him those powers in the negotiations that led to the 2011 Collective Bargaining Agreement.

But the powers at issue in this case — the ability to safeguard the integrity of the game — has been around since the very first Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA in 1968. Which means that the first NFLPA president (John Mackey) and executive director (Ed Garvey) agreed to allow the Commissioner to impose the discipline and to designate the hearing officer (including himself) to handle any appeal regarding matters relating to conduct detrimental to the integrity of, and public confidence in, the game of professional football.

Similar, then, to the Personal Conduct Policy, the Commissioner’s judge-jury-executioner power predated the 2011 negotiations. The questions four years ago were: (1) whether the Commissioner would have given up the power to impose discipline and to review the decision; and (2) whether it made sense to make a concession that would have affected all players for the sake of securing rights that, as a practical matter, impact only a handful per year.

As noted last November when the Adrian Peterson case approached full boil, the players routinely must ask themselves how much of the benefits for the many will be sacrificed to ultimately protect a few? If the NFL would ever consider giving up full control over the Personal Conduct Policy or the Article 46 powers regarding the integrity of the game, what would the union have to give him in return?

In this regard, keep in mind that the Commissioner’s powers aren’t absolute, as the NFL Players Association has demonstrated in multiple challenges to his decisions in recent years. From the Saints bounty scandal to the Ray Rice case to the Adrian Peterson case, the NFLPA has pushed back aggressively and prevailed in multiple high-profile cases.

“The NFL Commissioner does have authority granted by the CBA, but he does not have the right to make up whatever rules he wants,” the NFLPA told PFT via email on Sunday. “Whenever the Commissioner has inflated his rights in the CBA, we have always been there with the needle.”

The puns were surely intended. And the NFLPA surely intends to continue to force the NFL to make fair, impartial decisions in all cases of player discipline.

108 responses to “Commissioner’s power under Article 46 has been present since the first CBA

  1. We will not stand for these hideous transgressions.

    #WarOnWinning
    #Jealousy

  2. If the players union isn’t smart enough to get rid of this stuff when they have the change then why shouldn’t Goodell take advantage of it.

    It’s like you telling your teacher they gave you a better grade than they should have, ya it’s probably the right thing to do to be honest/show good faith but when it’s all said in done they dug they’re the ones that made the mistake.

  3. Its so funny hearing all the Seadderal SeaCheat Fans come on here and cry like babies.

    Make no mistake, the day the Pats Beat the Cheat-Hawks in the SB the ENTIRE country erupted in joyous laughter. You could hear from Northern Cal to Miami and everywhere in between.

    Just wet, plain boring Seattle cried in their Starbucks and rain slickers.

    Shermy’s wince and Whine when Butler stole the ball was the greatest NFL Karma Moment in the history of the league cause everyone HATES the SeaAdderal Cheat Hawks.

    The Most ARROGANT team to ever exist

  4. With great power comes great responsibility. That is the problem the real problem at play here. This commissioner is the most irresponsible person you could ever have with the finger on the button. The rules are not the issue it is the reckless regard for fairness that this commissioner fails to understand or care about.

  5. Commish has the power. Leave it to Patsies to Shift blame and point fingers after caught cheating. Gross. Some legacy.

  6. Once the Patriots and the NFL get into federal court, one never knows what will be said. Other NFL owners have to be concerned about what skeletons will unearthed once a trial begins.

    They also have to be aware that someone like Belichick, who’s been around the game for 40 years knows where lots of bodies are buried.
    .

  7. kcchefs58 says:
    May 17, 2015 7:32 PM
    I’ve been eating a lot of popcorn recently. This is good.
    ========================================

    I’ve switched to Doritos to keep in the spirit of the texts.

    “Dorito Dink”

  8. Give the Pats a day and they’ll start blaming John Mackey for the fix they’re in. Crucifying him has to be worth about 5,000 words on their tinfoil hat website. Extra bonus for them: he was a Colt, so CLEARLY he had this all set up in 1968, about five years before Grigson was born.

    How evil.

  9. “Whenever the Commissioner has inflated his rights in the CBA, we have always been there with the needle.”
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    “Whether it’s HGH, steroids or amphetamines, we will always be there with the needle.” -NFLPA

  10. All these Pats fans that justify breaking the rules are the exact reason we have more accumulated more debt here in the U.S. under one President than all the rest combined. We as a nation justify taking the quickest & easiest route versus doing the work needed to actually honestly succeed, then we all pay for it.

    Why don’t all the Pats fans look at your children’s eyes and say if you just cheat a little, you might win it all. Those morals will doom your family to a horrible future without a chance of success, because they can’t do things the right way.

    All pretty sad actually but to be expected, I think it’s time to take out the trash.

  11. largentthanlife says:
    May 17, 2015 7:29 PM
    Here comes the Patriots Internet Defense Force–again
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    in between the nonsensical statements by the haters…

    we hate ’em ‘cuz we ain’t ’em

    at least I can admit it

    -colts fan

  12. Really nothing wrong with the Commisioner having that kind of power if they’re men like Rozelle and even Tagliabue. They just should have stuck in an incompetency clause in case an accident like Goodell happened. And don’t give me the league made huge money routine. The league could have fallen down and done that. It’s probably more to do with ESPN and their local clones, proliferation of gambling and fantasy football. Not exposing England and China to the product and wussifying the game.

  13. History buffs will remember the last time a despotic ruler tried to run rough shod over some patriots. The patriots revolted and the ruler was forced to retreat. Looks like Bob Kraft has run up the “Don’t Tread on Me” flag and is preparing for a war.

  14. So? I am pro second amendment, but for those of you who are anti second amendment, do you accept “but this is the way we have always done it!” as an acceptable response?

    Should we accept that as a reason to keep doing anything for that matter?

    Disappointed in this narrative.

  15. Patriot Internet defense force lol!!!! It’s funny because it’s true. “Don’t talk about my qb” like t.o. lol!!!!

  16. bobman2 says:
    May 17, 2015 7:43 PM
    Give the Pats a day and they’ll start blaming John Mackey for the fix they’re in. Crucifying him has to be worth about 5,000 words on their tinfoil hat website. Extra bonus for them: he was a Colt, so CLEARLY he had this all set up in 1968, about five years before Grigson was born.

    How evil.

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    How hilariously ironic… It is actually Colts, Ravens fans, and just Brady/Pats haters (that were that way LOOOOONG before this “scandal” mind you)

    Wearing the tinfoil hats and hate filtered goggles.

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Probably won’t help your team tackle though, just saying.

  17. The only ones “crying like babies” are the Patriots Internet Defense Force. It’s the only way to defend the indefensible.
    It’s deafening in the echo chamber.

  18. I sure wish you delusional Pats fans would stop with the “You’re just jealous” garbage.

    I don’t believe anybody outside New England is envious of your reputation as low-down, no-class, no-integrity, cheating scumbags.

  19. NFL bylaws also call for the commissioner to be a man of unquestionable integrity. That is clearly not the case with Mr goodell. NFL failed it’s obligations therefore a neutral arbitration is appropriate.

  20. The Patriots are embarrassing themselves fighting all of this. Let it go and maybe your legacy can be saved. Patriots fans are the only people who actually believe this stuff. The statement made by the Patriots shows us how ridiculous their excuses were. Fat ball guy losing weight?? He’s getting deflated?? Why did they suspend those guys?? We are sick of this. The commish is an idiot but he’s the one who laid out the punishment and he’s the one hearing the appeal. Why would he change his mind?? Let it go let it go!!!! While you guys still have an ounce of pride left.

  21. The Missouri State Supreme Court has ruled that the NFL Commish IS NOT a fair arbitrator for employees of the Rams and the Chiefs and therefore must use a 3rd party impartial arbitrator. I suspect more states will follow.

  22. Absolute power corrupts absolutly…
    Roger…nothing more true could be said about you & the lousy way you represent the so called “Shield” of the NFL
    You come across as the angry redhead that can finally get back at society for the way you were treated in your youth….the major problem is you can’t even see that you’ve become the exact thing you hated as a child…you will soon lead to your own dimise & I for one can’t wait to watch it unfold!!!

  23. There is zero proof that a rule was even broken……it can’t even be proven that the balls were less than 12.5psi before the game

    Tiny jealous little haters need alternative excuses for their teams sucking

  24. Mr. Kraft was one of the biggest supporters of the hammer treatment that the commish dealt out. Hmmmm? I wonder what changed? The habitual cheaters known as the Patriots are still the same. They have never stopped cheating and never stopped getting busted for cheating. Imagine the infinite number of cheating infractions that they haven’t been caught on. Maybe this punishment will keep them from cheating. I know I know that would be expecting a lot from a team that knows no better.

  25. @fuzzyghoul

    In your haste to label the Patriots as cheating scumbags, you may have overlooked some of the Steelers transgressions. Such as:

    A. Steroid Abuse – they’ve had multiple players pass with the cause of death linked to steroids.

    B. Coach Tomlin going onto the field of play to affect the outcome.

    C. The tawdry Roethlisberger affair
    .

  26. onnyw9 says:
    May 17, 2015 7:56 PM
    The Patriots are embarrassing themselves fighting all of this. Let it go and maybe your legacy can be saved. Patriots fans are the only people who actually believe this stuff. The statement made by the Patriots shows us how ridiculous their excuses were. Fat ball guy losing weight?? He’s getting deflated?? Why did they suspend those guys?? We are sick of this. The commish is an idiot but he’s the one who laid out the punishment and he’s the one hearing the appeal. Why would he change his mind?? Let it go let it go!!!! While you guys still have an ounce of pride left.

    Pride calls for not letting yourself get walked over by a two bit cowardly incompetent Commissioner and his hired biased shill. Get this thing in front of an objective forum and we’ll see. Of course Goodell won’t change his mind. His arrogance and ego won’t let him. But the process can’t get before an objective party without first taking this step and at the next step his own stubborn insistence will be just another stone on the scale that hits him in the face. He’s already lost about every decision he has made and the fool is setting himself up for the next one.

  27. “All these Pats fans that justify breaking the rules are the exact reason we have more accumulated more debt here in the U.S. under one President than all the rest combined. ”

    Yes the Pats fans created the national dept. Wow. Good one.

  28. The NFLPA should try and make sure that the League imposes discipline fairly and reasonably. But the union also needs to recognize that, despite its fantasies to the contrary, it is NOT an equal partner. It is merely an organization made up of employees, who are rightfully subordinate to their employers.

  29. Imagine being accused of something when that accusation is grossly exaggerated. Then imagine the investigator glossing over every, single , piece of evidence that helps you. Then imagine that investigator giving more credence to communications between a guy named Dortio Dink and his half wit buddy than he did the one portion of evidence (from the guy whose testimony was otherwise gold) that would easily explain the accusations.

    If you could sleep at night without being totally pissed and disillusioned then you are lying.

  30. Pats and their fans think they have the right to cheat due to adverse possession.

    “But, but, but, we’ve always cheated and no one’s complained before. It would be unfair to stop us from cheating now, how would we win?”

    -Signed all Pats

  31. The vision of some fat guy trying to maneuver a big bag containing 12 footballs thru a narrow bathroom door so he could pee is mildly amusing. If he had to go so bad why not just leave the bag outside the door, run in and do your business then off you go. That part, to me, is quite suspicious. And in 1,2,3 here comes the pats excuse.

  32. ah yes realityheckbaby, the same guy that accuses people of not knowing rules but doesn’t know that the home team locker room attendant is in charge of the game balls after the ref inspection.

  33. I’d like to take this opportunity to thank team hater for their diligence in making sure every Patriots thread is replete with the same unimaginative, repetitive, boring posts. Thread after thread, day after day, like death, taxes and the mail. It takes real dedication(and lack of a life) to make sure you’re never too far from your computer, in case a Patriots thread comes up. As self appointed spokespeople for the rest of the country, you’re always ‘johnny on the spot’. Crusaders for integrity. Other teams can violate rules all over the league, but your duty never waivers in trying to take down the Pats and ridicule their fan base. It’s not jealousy, it’s commitment. I salute you.

  34. The key is the public perception of the league. Goodell obviously believes that Brady deflating footballs hurt the value of the NFL brand and he brought the hammer. Deflate gate type incidents can’t become the norm or the brand devalues.

  35. The vision of some fat guy trying to maneuver a big bag containing 12 footballs thru a narrow bathroom door so he could pee is mildly amusing. If he had to go so bad why not just leave the bag outside the door, run in and do your business then off you go. That part, to me, is quite suspicious. And in 1,2,3 here comes the pats excuse.

    3, 2, 1…

    The Wells report expects you to believe that NFL officials “ran out of time” gauging the balls at half time but that this obese moron was Flash Gordon in the bathroom with the footballs.

  36. The former commissioners could actually be entrusted with this authority because they were relatively competent. Goodell is a travesty as commissioner.

  37. FoozieGrooler says:
    May 17, 2015 7:55 PM

    I sure wish you delusional Pats fans would stop with the “You’re just jealous” garbage.

    I don’t believe anybody outside New England is envious of your reputation as low-down, no-class, no-integrity, cheating scumbags.
    _________________________________

    Where was your disdain for cheating when Atlanta got caught pumping in crowd noise?

    It wasn’t there because no one is jealous of Atlanta’s football team.

    You may not want to own up to it, but if this had been any other team besides the Pats and 2 or three other successful teams you wouldn’t care.

  38. I’d like to see a poll of how many refs will admit they have lost track of the balls in their career. What a coincidence this is the first time Anderson has in 19 years.

  39. I welcome any single piece of evidence that Tom Brady asked these ball boys to deflate footballs after the ref inspection.

    I welcome any single piece of evidence that Tom Brady prefers the balls below 12.5 PSI.

    And no, Brady not turning over his phone doesn’t count. If goodell can cite the CBA in order to appoint himself arbiter of the appeal, then he is a massive hypocrite considering the CBA protects players from handing over phones.

  40. I’d like to see a poll of how many refs will admit they have lost track of the balls in their career. What a coincidence this is the first time Anderson has in 19 years.

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    So his memory is credible in that case but not when it comes to remembering which gauge he used before the game? That’s pretty amazing!

  41. infectorman says:
    May 17, 2015 7:33 PM

    Its so funny hearing all the Seadderal SeaCheat Fans come on here and cry like babies.

    Make no mistake, the day the Pats Beat the Cheat-Hawks in the SB the ENTIRE country erupted in joyous laughter. You could hear from Northern Cal to Miami and everywhere in between.

    Just wet, plain boring Seattle cried in their Starbucks and rain slickers.

    Shermy’s wince and Whine when Butler stole the ball was the greatest NFL Karma Moment in the history of the league cause everyone HATES the SeaAdderal Cheat Hawks.

    The Most ARROGANT team to ever exist

    =========================

    They were laughing at us after the Super Bowl but they’ve been laughing with us ever since.
    Funny you cite arrogance and karma, since your teams arrogance (Brady telling Harbaugh to “read the rules”) was the catalyst for this epic karma.

    –and your team has PED violations also–

  42. 12coltsfan12 says:
    May 17, 2015 7:45 PM

    largentthanlife says:
    May 17, 2015 7:29 PM
    Here comes the Patriots Internet Defense Force–again
    —————————————-

    in between the nonsensical statements by the haters…

    we hate ’em ‘cuz we ain’t ’em

    at least I can admit it

    -colts fan
    ——————————————
    I don’t hate them at all. I always admired the team up until Spygate. Then I got over that, admired them again up until they wrote that 20K word blog that was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read.

    I may be jealous of them winning superbowls. I can admit that as a Viking fan since we’ve never won one. But by no means am I allowing that to sway my judgment here given the evidence provided thus far. When Brady gives up his phone and proves his innocence I will gladly raise my hand to say I was wrong and go back to admiring them. Until then, they’ve lost my respect.

  43. bushwoodcc says:
    May 17, 2015 8:54 PM
    Where was your disdain for cheating when Atlanta got caught pumping in crowd noise?

    It wasn’t there because no one is jealous of Atlanta’s football team.

    You may not want to own up to it, but if this had been any other team besides the Pats and 2 or three other successful teams you wouldn’t care.
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    Wrong song Sally. It’s the ridiculous defense of the indefensible, the outright comical 20k word essay from the Patriots, the stonewalling of the investigation from jump off, and last but not least the mass delusion of Patriots fans that somehow their “you’re jealous” and “here look at this ‘proof’ I made up” rationale is going to make a difference on a forum where no difference can be made. Any combination of these make people pick against you in this fight, because you didn’t have to be like this, you just are.

  44. comingfromthevacuum says:
    May 17, 2015 8:55 PM

    I welcome any single piece of evidence that Tom Brady asked these ball boys to deflate footballs after the ref inspection.

    I welcome any single piece of evidence that Tom Brady prefers the balls below 12.5 PSI.

    And no, Brady not turning over his phone doesn’t count. If goodell can cite the CBA in order to appoint himself arbiter of the appeal, then he is a massive hypocrite considering the CBA protects players from handing over phones.
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    I’d also like to welcome any piece of evidence linking OJ Simpson to the murder of Nicole Brown-Simpson. Oh what, there wasn’t any???? Yet, we all know he was guilty of the crime.

    I’m not saying deflating balls is as terrible as murder but I want to give an example as to why Brady’s cell phone is important to this case if he wants to prove his innocence. Because other texts and phone calls show very good circumstantial evidence that he is guilty. Just as the circumstantial evidence regarding OJ and Brady’s ex-teammate Aaron Hernandez.

  45. bushwoodcc says:
    May 17, 2015 8:54 PM

    Where was your disdain for cheating when Atlanta got caught pumping in crowd noise?
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    I understand where you are coming from in that this is more blown up than the Falcon scandal was. I can even agree it’s more blown up because it’s the Patriots.

    However, unfortunately, it comes with the territory especially after Spygate. Is it right? It is what it is. But luckily for the Patriot fans, they can sit back and count their superbowl wins as pretty much each and every one of them has stated while all the rest of us continue to hate. Even though I don’t hate but since I believe the scandal happened due to the evidence provided, I’ve been unfairly labeled as such. See the irony?

  46. I always crack up laughing when I read a Patriots fan threating to take this to federal court. Be careful what you wish for…hand over that phone and computer Brady. Call Brady to the witness stand.

  47. gotta slam the Patriots for having 11 footballs at an average pressure of 11.49 psi

    when Mother Nature puts them in the range 11.32-11.52.

    Oh wait… 11.49 is in the expected range.

    never mind!

  48. The perpetual attempt at saying other teams cheat doesn’t make it right, all the times before you cheated.

  49. gotta slam the Patriots for having 11 footballs at an average pressure of 11.49 psi
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    Way to use the average in your cherry picked stat. So mother nature must have worked overtime on the balls that were way below? You know…the few of the total that would actually be used.

  50. So his memory is credible in that case but not when it comes to remembering which gauge he used before the game? That’s pretty amazing!
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    Exactly. So Brady must be psychic knowing which refs would lose track of the balls each game.

  51. “And no, Brady not turning over his phone doesn’t count. If goodell can cite the CBA in order to appoint himself arbiter of the appeal, then he is a massive hypocrite considering the CBA protects players from handing over phones.”

    Yes. His cell phone does count. The only reason why you don’t want it to count is because even as a Patriots fan you know it would be incriminating to your demi-god. All he had to do is provide text messages between him and 2 other low level employees who took the fall. NOT HIS ENTIRE CELL PHONE.

    If he wasn’t guilty, he would do that in a heartbeat and thumb his nose at the NFL and Goodell. And if you don’t like the CBA….you should be pissed at your Patriots players and the rest of them for signing off on it to get more money. It was highlighted a lot in the media that Goodell had ultimate authority. Can’t come crying later when it doesn’t work out in your favor now.

  52. The Commissioner should have authority over any issue that involves cheating/integrity of the game. There is no other acceptable scenario. The problem is not with his authority; it is with the level of certainty. In order to levy a punishment as harsh as this, the evidence should be overwhelming. Contrary to what the Patriots “haters” want to believe, the evidence is just not there in this case. Sure, there are things that look fishy, considering the history, but suspicion cannot be the basis for discipline. The sting was botched and the investigation seems to have been geared to accomplish the job of the failed sting operation.

    IF the referee’s recollection of which gauge was used matched the scientific data showing the balls were intentionally deflated, then I would have no problem with the finding that the Patriots cheated. That did not happen. In fact, his recollection proves they DIDN’T cheat in this case. That was disregarded by Wells and he determined that the other gauge was used (just for the Patriots balls). When the Colts numbers were shown to be under as well (using the same gauge) Wells decided that the referee must have changed needles when he checked the Colts’ footballs. The referee never said he used a different gauge at all. He said he used the gauge with the logo. Wells used the scientific data to determine which gauge was used when he should have used the gauge to determine which data set was accurate. The fact that Wells believes different gauges were used because that is the only way to explain the data to the league’s satisfaction is ridiculous. That, in and of itself, is why I believe the league should not have levied any punishment at all in this case. The rest of the “evidence” really does not matter at all if the referee’s account is believed for both teams–as it should have been.

  53. This is a different era gentlemen. Rozelle and Tagliabue were not strong disciplinary commissioners. Domestic violence and the locker room sub-culture were not discussed as it is today with Social media and 24/7 news.

    What Goodell is trying to do is clean up the league. I didn’t agree with him on the whole Jonathan Martin episode, but I understand what he was up against in public anger. The Ray Rice, incident would not have gotten any news if there wasn’t a camera. It’s the times we live in today.

    You may not like his heavy handedness but he has the support of the owners and Robert Kraft has been one of his biggest cheerleaders.

  54. Judge to Goodell : The second half of the AFCCG was PATRIOTS 28 to colts 0. Mr. Goodell, Why did you not exonerate the PATRIOTS at that point ???

    Goodell : It backfired on us on the first sting attempt.

    Judge : Mr. Goodell, you leaked false information for two weeks leading up to the SuperBowl, WHY ???

    Goodell : That was our second attempt to undermine the PATRIOTS.

    Judge : Under the highest NFL scrutiny, the PATRIOTS defeated, perhaps, the Best Defense in NFL history – Why did you not exonerate the PATRIOTS at this point.

    Goodell : We were hoping the Seahawks would win (whimper) but that also FAILED.

    Judge : And no exoneration for the PATRIOTS I assume? What did you do next?

    Goodell : I hired Mr. Well$ in a fourth attempt to discredit the PATRIOTS.

    Judge : Mr. Goodell, Why do you feel it necessary to discredit the PATRIOTS.

    Goodell : For NFL Parity & to protect the Sheild – I AM the SHEILD !!!!

    Judge : OK, I’ve heard enough !!! Take Mr. Goodell to the psyche ward and have him thoroughly evaluated.

    Judge : Mr. Well$, you are up next!

    Well$ : He made me do it – He made me to do it.

  55. CBA doesn’t protect players from handing over their cell phones to their employer. They can refuse to do that but the employer makes the rules and they can decide whether to punish them for it if it interferes with an investigation.

  56. skoobyfl says:
    May 17, 2015 9:34 PM

    The perpetual attempt at saying other teams cheat doesn’t make it right, all the times before you cheated
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    YES IT DOES, when 31 other Teams’ Coaches, QB’s, Players, Owners and Personnel admit that bending the rules is a part of the game.

    To look at the NFL as having Integrity would be equivalent to telling your wife the prostitute needed the money for college so it went to a good cause.

  57. Why did the NFL leak such incorrect numbers to Mortensen? They were that clueless. They believed their own bs and had blinders on from the very beginning and were that incompetent.

    Through that lens it was easy for them to misread facts. A trip to a bathroom is a clandestine place to deflate balls. The numbers don’t add up so Anderson must be wrong about which gage he used. Brady doesn’t know a ball boy by name, only a nickname, so he must be a liar. The ball boys don’t have a motive so Brady must have pressured them. Brady played better with the balls inflated at higher psi so he did it even though he didn’t need to do so to win, it is just his pathological need to win.

    Most scientists know that low probability times low probability times low probability times low probability means virtually no probability but the NFL sees it as more probably than not.

  58. Patriot internet defense force, eh? The only group bigger than that right now is the Seattle bandwagon internet trolls. These two groups have the potential to be the best at their crafts. This matchup will be interesting throughout the season….back to the studio.

  59. skoobyfl says:
    May 17, 2015 7:44 PM
    All these Pats fans that justify breaking the rules are the exact reason we have more accumulated more debt here in the U.S. under one President than all the rest combined.
    ************************
    Wow, now you’re blaming Obama for the Pats problems too? If wanna wax political at least get it factually correct. Obama cleaned up the world-wide devastation of W. Bush. W’s the man who put the cost of TWO WARS on the credit card, so the ill-informed can scream about the deficit.

    So before you step in to reenact the Civil War, check to see which states are living off govt assistance, while a no tax pledge by idiots nearly has us bankrupt and the 1% robs you blind.

  60. Dear Seattle,

    Both times you lost the superbowl, you got out played. The only reason you got one is because the Broncos starting defense was on the bench. Not to mention your illegal practices in the off season. Seattle sb record 1*-2.

  61. Man I despise that guy. My favorite part of the draft, apart from when my team is on the clock, is hearing little Roger get booed 32 times on national TV.

  62. Everybody realizes that the owners are playing the public right? Pats make the perfect foil and this soap opera will never end and EVERYONE here will.continually renew their Sunday ticket. Or did I miss something.

  63. Have you read the New NFL Law created by Goodell, Vincent & Wells?

    It is called the PATRIOT ACT II and goes as follows:
    Proof of guilt is solely based on “AT LEAST AWARE & PROBABLE” and Scientific Facts/Analysis is NOT APPLICABLE.

    Based on this New Law – Every NFL Team, Coach, Player & Personnel is GUILTY of something because they were “AT LEAST AWARE & PROBABLY DID IT”

    LMAO

  64. I just can’t stop laughing.

    Vincent & Well$ stated ” Brady probably was at least aware…”

    OK – I am “at least aware” that it will rain tomorrow.
    So, that means I made it rain? or at least “Probably” influenced the clouds to form and drop some rain?

    Hey, I am “at least aware” that my neighbor is a call girl. I have her phone number on my phone, I say Hi to her when I see her and we have exchanged texts. – Does that mean I am guilty of solicitation?

    Goodell, Vincent & Well$ are the laughing stock of the NFL, as is every person who is carrying pitchforks & torches handed out by Goodell & the News Media.

  65. Do you honestly think that in the court of law maybe he did is going to hold water well then you’re delusional haters and losers

  66. Well$, the impartial (laugh) attorney:

    1.) rejects/throws out scientific factual evidence that supports the accused party (Patriots)

    2.) rejects/throws out scientific factual evidence that implicates the accuser (Colts).

    3.) does NOT investigate additional accusers – Kinsel, Grigson, Harbaugh (Ravens) & Goodell as well.

    4.) wants Brady’s phone but not the accusers phones.

    5.) does NOT investigate NFL Refs and the lack of proper NFL protocol in registering, measuring & recording football pressure (Rule 17)

    6.) concludes that Bray & Patriots “PROBABLY did it”

    OK Then, any JUDGE will tear into Well$ like a kid on Christmas morning with presents.

  67. Hi. My name is Roger and I want time back to January 19th so I can release this public statement to save my job.

    During the AFC Champ game both the Patriots and Colts were found to have played with football below the league minimum when tested with 2 gauges. Here are the results. We are investigating as to if a change in weather temperature caused the issue.

    DeFlate Gate doesn’t exist and I keep my job.

  68. Wells should be disbarred for this joke of a report by a corrupt attorney.

    The legal profession should be embarrassed to have a hack like this clown as one of their own.

    This guy needs to be nailed for his unethical report

  69. You know these trolls are Krafts media payroll guys here and in all NFL message boards spreading this crap

    Admit you cheated when you get caught red handed

    Sting operation for deism cheaterz. Lol

    Bust em everytime when they’re brazen as they come

  70. FoozieGrooler says:
    May 17, 2015 7:55 PM
    I sure wish you delusional Pats fans would stop with the “You’re just jealous” garbage.

    I don’t believe anybody outside New England is envious of your reputation as low-down, no-class, no-integrity, cheating scumbags.

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    The fact that you live to point out non-truths about the team that has been beating you for years just goes to prove you’re jealous. It’s OK–admitting it is the 1st step…

  71. bstngrdn says:
    May 17, 2015 7:48 PM
    History buffs will remember the last time a despotic ruler tried to run rough shod over some patriots. The patriots revolted and the ruler was forced to retreat. Looks like Bob Kraft has run up the “Don’t Tread on Me” flag and is preparing for a war.
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    I’m a history buff, and sorry to tell you that in 1775 the British parliament democratically voted to go to war, and in 1783 the British parliament democratically voted again (much against the sitting government’s wishes) to end the war. At no time did the king (who since 1688 is just a ceremonial figurehead with no powers except when parliament grants it) have any determination. So it wasn’t a “revolution”, nor against a “despotic king”, nor was it tyranny. Americans are taught a load of BS for history.

  72. I never wanted to see a commissioner fired until Goodell.

    Been following the NFL for 40 years

    Man do I want Goodell fired

  73. “If he wasn’t guilty, he would do that in a heartbeat and thumb his nose at the NFL and Goodell. And if you don’t like the CBA….you should be pissed at your Patriots players and the rest of them for signing off on it to get more money. It was highlighted a lot in the media that Goodell had ultimate authority. Can’t come crying later when it doesn’t work out in your favor now.”

    Brady is pushing this to court. If he actually had something to hide, he wouldn’t be doing that.

    Goodell is terrified of letting a neutral party arbitrate the case. This moron actually thinks his arbitration won’t be the height of comedy when he arbitrates and testifies in the same hearing.

    Some of you people are really, really, stupid.

  74. As some washed-up GM pointed out, the precedent goes all the way back to the Black Sox Scandal, where the baseball owners begged a judge to become their Commissioner and he said he would only do if if they gave him sole discretion regarding matters touching on integrity of the game.

  75. Patriots cheated. agreement says commish has power. Now it’s Goodells fault? Cmaaaaaan

  76. The NFL is a joke and the “Commish” is the biggest joke.

    It should have been clear when people like Al Davis Jr and Jerry Jones just pretty much do whatever they want.

    This is a business… clear and simple… they are in it to gets VERY rich.. They use taxpayers dollars to build their stadiums and rake in HUGE profits…

    I know there’s a growing consensus that games are fixed… after 30+ years of watching I’m starting to believe it myself. It’s like a soap opera for grown men…

  77. That’s the problem with youth today they refuse to be accountable for their actions instead they will blame everyone else for the situation. It’s quite obvious to what happened but somehow the kool-aid drinking pat fans will try and deflect at every opportunity. Outside of Mass. all people will use an * when discussing the pats, time to deal with it.

  78. Something needs to be adjusted. When it comes to discipline, the NFL has become NASCAR and Godell has become Bill France III. The head of NASCAR (now Brian France, son of Bill France Jr.) decides all discipline and the appeal board is loaded with his yes-men that occasionally reduce a penalty to give the illusion of impartiality. The mentality of France is, “I AM THE BOSS!!!!! WHAT I SAY GOES!!!!! NO ONE DARE QUESTION ME!!!!!! I AM THE BOSS!!!!!” Godell and the NFL are becoming just like him.

  79. realnflfacts says:
    May 17, 2015 10:03 PM

    Dear Seattle,

    Both times you lost the superbowl, you got out played. The only reason you got one is because the Broncos starting defense was on the bench. Not to mention your illegal practices in the off season. Seattle sb record 1*-2.

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    Is that really the only reason? First play from scrimmage + opening kickoff of the 2nd half was enough for a tie. Our defense outscored Denver by themselves. Our offense didn’t even need to score in that game. How many points do you estimate Denver’s D was gonna score?

    I suppose next you’ll tell me the only reason the Patriots got embarrassed by the Bears in their SB was what, Refrigerator Perry? The Super Bowl Shuffle?

  80. “Do you honestly think that in the court of law maybe he did is going to hold water well then you’re delusional haters and losers”

    First of all this is not law. It is rules violations (no court beyond a reasonable doubt requirements). 2nd Ben Roethlisberger was never even charged with anything and he got 6 games (reduced to 4). So the whole court of law thing is not comparable.

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