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Extra point tries moved to the 15-yard line

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One of the NFL’s staid elements is getting a shake-up.

Extra points will be attempted from the 15-yard-line beginning in 2015, the NFL announced Tuesday at its spring meeting in San Francisco. Owners approved the rules change, which makes the extra point a 32- or 33-yard attempt.

Two-point conversions will continue to be snapped from the two-yard-line. However, defenses can now return fumbled or intercepted two-point tries for two points of their own. Blocked extra points can also be returned for two points.

According to the NFL’s Competition Committee, the extra point change is just for 2015, which could open the rule to be revisited in the future.

The rule passed 30-2, with Oakland and Washington voting against the measure, NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino said at a Tuesday afternoon press conference announcing the change.

Previously, extra points were snapped from the two-yard-line, making it a 19- or 20-yard attempt. These ultra-short kicks, with very few exceptions, have been drama-lacking events.

That said, with kickers more accurate than ever, moving the conversions to the 15 might not have much of an impact on how teams approach post-touchdown scoring attempts. Nevertheless, this is certainly a new wrinkle for a play that has been one of sport’s utterly humdrum actions.

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  1. thefatlazygamer says: May 19, 2015 6:16 PM

    What happens on a botched snap ala Romo vs. Seahawks? If offense gets it in the endzone from the 15, its only worth one? Doesn’t make sense.

  2. ariani1985 says: May 19, 2015 6:16 PM

    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?

  3. bettis3636 says: May 19, 2015 6:17 PM

    LOVVVVVVVE THIS!!!! No more gimmes!!!

  4. Wisconsin77 says: May 19, 2015 6:17 PM

    It would have been nice if they moved up the two point conversion line a half yard or so. I don’t think moving it back to the 15 yard line is going to change much. But doing that combined with moving the two point conversion line would get more teams to go for two.

  5. iamkillerfin says: May 19, 2015 6:18 PM

    NICE!!! I like it & now the defense can score if they are on their game, finally a good rule change since getting rid of the Brady tuck rule!!!

  6. financeseasy says: May 19, 2015 6:18 PM

    Stupid. Can’t leave well enough alone.

    Just ruin every traditional element of the game. I hate this.

  7. vikes182 says: May 19, 2015 6:18 PM

    yes! excited the defense can now return 2-point tries for points!

  8. roadtrip3500 says: May 19, 2015 6:18 PM

    Previously, extra points were snapped from the one-yard-line, and the kicks, with very few exceptions, have been drama-lacking events.
    ——————–
    Incorrect – they were also at the 2 yard line – there’s even a field mark at the 2 yard line centered between the hashes for spotting the ball.

  9. kcchefs58 says: May 19, 2015 6:19 PM

    #nicetrygate

  10. runningoutofboundsisforgringos says: May 19, 2015 6:19 PM

    It’s “effect”, not “affect”. Damn, I need to get a life.

  11. suhmonster90 says: May 19, 2015 6:19 PM

    Great! Now I HAVE to sit through the 4 sets of commercials to make sure I don’t miss the action! Good job NFL, if there’s one thing that pleases the fans, its disregarding the overwhelming popular opinion and changing things that don’t need to be changed anyway.

  12. rbell2123 says: May 19, 2015 6:20 PM

    I feel this is making change just to make change and is unnecessary. They are taking this great game and tearing it down brick by brick.

  13. micknangold says: May 19, 2015 6:21 PM

    Pointless. If you like this you’re dumb.

  14. themikegun says: May 19, 2015 6:21 PM

    Bill Belichick has a marquis kicker in Gostkowski and just drafted one of the highest rated long snappers to come out of college. This should benefit them on extra point attempts.

    Hey NFL! He got another one past you!

  15. hakunamangata says: May 19, 2015 6:21 PM

    Billy Cundiff’s career is now Officially over.

  16. steves11 says: May 19, 2015 6:22 PM

    Extra point kicks will still be pretty much automatic snapping from the 15, but there will be a few more misses than in the past. I mean…kickers who miss 32 yard field goals don’t keep their jobs very long.

  17. ctiggs says: May 19, 2015 6:22 PM

    #NobodyhasitbetterthanUS

  18. pdmjr says: May 19, 2015 6:22 PM

    The NFL is stupid, so the defense can get 2 points after allowing a TD?

  19. chc4 says: May 19, 2015 6:23 PM

    Well, this is the “least bad” option.

  20. kevpft says: May 19, 2015 6:23 PM

    I would have preferred just moving it up to the 1-yard-line for everything. Then you get the suspense of “what will they do?” This was, it’s either going to be boring or disappointing – who wants to see a missed extra point? It’s almost like a tie – zero entertainment value.

  21. mikelitoris1 says: May 19, 2015 6:24 PM

    Way to go NFL, now poor Alex Henery will never get another shot in the league!

  22. thrasherm316 says: May 19, 2015 6:24 PM

    Anti-climatic ending is your team winning or losing on a 32-yard extra point.

  23. ebdug says: May 19, 2015 6:24 PM

    I don’t know how it happened, but somehow the 32 most football-incompetent people got control of the game.

  24. smackingfools says: May 19, 2015 6:24 PM

    Can’t wait until we get that game tying touchdown only to be let down by a missed extra point. I’m almost done with the NFL. As soon a a they take out kickoffs I’m out.

  25. mortwannabe says: May 19, 2015 6:24 PM

    Need to add if you drop kick it you get 3 pts.

  26. financeseasy says: May 19, 2015 6:24 PM

    Why not put up big springy nets on the sides of the goalposts. When the ball bounces back it could be a free for all.

    Just like arena ball!

  27. bryonneufeld says: May 19, 2015 6:25 PM

    They should have moved it further back, like to the 25.

  28. bmoreb says: May 19, 2015 6:25 PM

    This paves the way to start games the way the XFL started games.

    I’m all for it. lol

  29. h2beer says: May 19, 2015 6:26 PM

    No effect. Unless you’re Billy Cundiff in January.

  30. xtutx says: May 19, 2015 6:27 PM

    Maybe they should have just narrowed the goal posts some.

    Sort of weird, if the ball were spotted at the 1 would the conservative NFL start going for 2 more? If so, that would have been a better way.

  31. financeseasy says: May 19, 2015 6:27 PM

    How bout joysticks for each head coach where they can control a single player too.

  32. clamdiggers says: May 19, 2015 6:28 PM

    Between AP , Teddy and Viking fans do you think they will be able to figure out how far that makes the Xpt..

  33. frank booth says: May 19, 2015 6:28 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM

    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?
    ==================================
    No. Nor does it prevent them from continuing to beat the living daylights out of the Vikings on an annual basis.

    Zero Super Bowls

  34. floratiotime says: May 19, 2015 6:29 PM

    What’s next? Rollerball?

  35. tonebones says: May 19, 2015 6:29 PM

    Idiotic. Now 52 men from each team can battle it out for 3 hours, but some little runt is going to decide the outcome. This is for people who don’t like football. This is going to turn a lot of people off. So all the preparation and practice, hours upon hours of studying, and it’s all going to come down to a fluke kick. Wow.

  36. commonsensedude says: May 19, 2015 6:29 PM

    More proof that Goodell gets paid more the more rules he changes. Looking forward to next year’s great “improvement” – the 5-point field goal.

  37. iamkillerfin says: May 19, 2015 6:29 PM

    Now if we could prevent teams having to go to London so fans won’t miss their teams playing a home game!!!

  38. thepopefromtv says: May 19, 2015 6:30 PM

    No play should be spotted at the 2 yd line in this era of football. There’s just no reason to give professional athletes that kind of leeway. Making a 2 yd pass? Cmon. A 2 yd dive? Get real. If you are going for 2 points, it’s because you NEED it. Therefore you need to WORK for it. Get those yards.

  39. igornathanhiggers says: May 19, 2015 6:30 PM

    Great…just another way for Vegas to influence the outcome of point spreads…So much for catching an opponent off guard with a fake XP attempt…used to be the flag was thrown in the vicinity of the foul…couple years back, the cowboys had a great kick return against the giants, only to have a flag thrown at the giant 45yd line for holding against the cowboys…somehow the cowboys ended up starting back inside their own 20 despite the foul and flag not occurring til after the returner crossed midfield…Vegas thought no one noticed, and the cowboys missed covering the spread by 3pts after the flag took them out of fg range…

    #true story bro

  40. truecowboyfan says: May 19, 2015 6:30 PM

    Now we can tell all the Soccer heads… another reason why it’s called FOOTball. Tired of them complaint about our name.

  41. footballfilmroom says: May 19, 2015 6:30 PM

    Change for the sake of change. It will be absolutely fantastic when a team down by 7 in the NFC Championship drives the length of the field with less than a minutes to go to tie the game…and then the kicker misses the extra point.

    Way to go, NFL. You just made KICKERS have a greater influence on the outcome of the game. Good move, because absolutely everyone was clamoring for the kickers to have more influence.

    You know what, 99% of hail mary attempts are not caught for touchdowns. That’s not competitive enough. Not enough drama. Let’s pass a new rule that in every hail mary situation, the defense has to remove a player from the field.

  42. goddfatherd says: May 19, 2015 6:30 PM

    Stupid change. They basically just took all the excitement out of a team being down 8pts in the 4th quarter. All in hopes that it might add some occasional mid game drama. Sorry but a 25yd FG is just as much of a gimme for an NFL kicker.

    You want drama for the sake of drama, take away the tee and make them drop kick.

  43. ftblfan9 says: May 19, 2015 6:31 PM

    And if they make the extra point or two points conversion, Vince McMahon hands them a giant gaudy belt that the return man had to wear on the kickoff return.

  44. weepingjebus says: May 19, 2015 6:31 PM

    Ugh. Tagliabue must feel like a guy who gave his beautiful Porsche to Goodell and has been listening to explosions and police sirens ever since. Soon there will be nothing left.

  45. Marshawn Lunch says: May 19, 2015 6:31 PM

    Stupid.

  46. clamdiggers says: May 19, 2015 6:31 PM

    When i saw 15 yards i thought this was an article about Vike fans celebrating Teddy’s longest completion

  47. gadgetdawg says: May 19, 2015 6:33 PM

    Yet another attempt by the NFL to fix the unbroken. I suppose they hope that things like this make fans forget the actual broken stuff they would have to pay money to fix.

  48. guachosporlife says: May 19, 2015 6:33 PM

    Yuckkk…leave the friggin game ALONE!

  49. longtimefanhtr says: May 19, 2015 6:34 PM

    Will this stop the Vikings from making the playoffs…….oh wait

  50. nfceastisbeast says: May 19, 2015 6:34 PM

    Exactly what the Patriots wanted…..big surprise !

  51. imnga says: May 19, 2015 6:35 PM

    Should have narrowed the goal posts instead. It would solve two problems: both extra points and successful field goal percentage has increased too much in the past 40+ years

  52. beartastic45 says: May 19, 2015 6:35 PM

    It’s Tebow time!

  53. dccowboy says: May 19, 2015 6:35 PM

    That makes the PAT & the 2pt roughly even in expected point value (.9 PAT .88 2 pt) so Coaches may be more tempted to go for two than 1, especially in close games.

    Essentially I see this happening, the 1st attempt will always be a PAT. If it is missed the 2nd attempt will be a 2pt conversion attempt

  54. skins3 says: May 19, 2015 6:35 PM

    Uh oh! the stock for kickers just went up. I feel sorry for struggling kickers. Can you imagine a kicker missing multiple extra points and kicks in one game??

  55. gmenfan1982 says: May 19, 2015 6:35 PM

    Having PAT and 2 point conversions at different yard lines makes a fake PAT for 2 pt conversion not a possibility. Stupid. Both should have been moved to the 1 yard line to make 2 pt conversions more attractive. Or just don’t change it at all which is what I would’ve preferred.

  56. digitalsasquatch says: May 19, 2015 6:35 PM

    I don’t know how it happened, but somehow the 32 most football-incompetent people got control of the game.
    _______________________

    OK, so go buy your own team, and make it allll better.

    Besides, it’s only approved for a year: they’ll have to vote on it again at the next Competition Committee meeting for it o continue.

  57. rextraordinaire says: May 19, 2015 6:36 PM

    I like that this is only for ’15. I think all major rule changes should have a one season “trial run”. Much easier for rules to be revised or repealed if they turn out to be horrible ideas.

    And there are a lot of horrible ideas that make it onto the proverbial desk of the Competition Committee

  58. ionlyrootforthewinningteam says: May 19, 2015 6:36 PM

    I wonder what this will do to the spread.

  59. imnga says: May 19, 2015 6:36 PM

    Ooh, requiring the drop kick for extra points is a great idea. That’s excitement!
    I haven’t heard that one before.

  60. seatownballers says: May 19, 2015 6:37 PM

    I like it. Give it a shot.
    Returning picks for 2 of your own! More action and effort

  61. phillyphan420 says: May 19, 2015 6:37 PM

    So the XP efficiency will go from 99.9% to…99.7%? Wowz!

    Also, makes no sense how a team can score 2 points off of a team trying to go for 1…

  62. poiuyt7 says: May 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    runningoutofboundsisforgringos says:
    May 19, 2015 6:19 PM

    It’s “effect”, not “affect”. Damn, I need to get a life.
    ===========================

    The comma and the period should go inside the quotation marks.

    Now who needs to get a life?

  63. purplepride11 says: May 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    I like this. No more gimme extra points. Makes a good kicker more valuable and I think more teams will try 2 pt conversions.

    I also love how packer trolls try so hard to turn every article negatively around the vikings. Try harder to be the most idiotic fan base ever please.

  64. agent7x6 says: May 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    Unfortunately, the kicks will still be from the center of the field. They should have also moved the kicks to one of the hash marks to add an additional degree of difficulty.

  65. 🏆🏆Patriots🏆🏆 says: May 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    Pats will be docked draft picks for this.

  66. rl79111 says: May 19, 2015 6:39 PM

    And Viking’s Pitiful Football Continues….

    ZERO Championships, a conference championship doesn’t count!

    How many Championships for the Vikings???

    ZERO (0) ZERO (0) ZERO (0)!!!

  67. lightninhopkins says: May 19, 2015 6:40 PM

    Washington and Oakland need every point they can get.

  68. bantry1234 says: May 19, 2015 6:41 PM

    This is a disaster waiting to happen. A team drives 90 yards down the down the field for a last second touchdown to tie the game, then they line up for a game winning extra point. On a freak play like a botched snap or blocked kick, the other team returns the ball for 2 points and ends up winning on a cheap play. How should a team scoring a touchdown give the other team a chance for scoring extra points? Idiotic.

  69. laserw says: May 19, 2015 6:41 PM

    I like the defense being able to return extra point(s) turnovers for scores – if Washington can get its special teams together, it could score points that Ginger Rogers Griffin can’t and keep him on the bench!

    Let’s just remember back to 2013 when the Washington Defense was scoring nearly as many points in the first half of games as the offense led by Ginger Rogers Griffin!

  70. dieselguy19 says: May 19, 2015 6:42 PM

    IDK this is a tough one. Leave what has worked and is a long standing part of the game for a decades, or change it because it’s boring? Arguments both ways imo. Personally, I like the idea of narrowing the cross bars and not moving the spot of the ball.

  71. mrfusion123 says: May 19, 2015 6:42 PM

    Can’t wait to see what The Onion does with this

  72. ctbarryjr says: May 19, 2015 6:43 PM

    I LIKE IT!

  73. upnorthvikesfan says: May 19, 2015 6:44 PM

    This should shorten a few careers. In particular, Mason Crosby’s.

  74. johngaltwho says: May 19, 2015 6:45 PM

    Great. So now we’re gonna have kneel downs on extra points cause someone doesnt want to risk a mess-up resulting in a two point defensive score.

  75. usdcoyotesfan says: May 19, 2015 6:45 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM

    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?
    ——————————————————–
    Will this prevent Favre from throwing an interception instead of waltzing into his kicker’s range?

  76. Ferdinand says: May 19, 2015 6:46 PM

    Wait – so a defense gets points for simply recovering a fumble or getting an interception in the endzone? They don’t have to do any thing else?

    That doesn’t sound right.

  77. ghlatty says: May 19, 2015 6:47 PM

    No play should be spotted at the 2 yd line in this era of football. There’s just no reason to give professional athletes that kind of leeway. Making a 2 yd pass? Cmon. A 2 yd dive? Get real. If you are going for 2 points, it’s because you NEED it. Therefore you need to WORK for it. Get those yards.

    ____________________________________
    Did you see the Superbowl???? Seattle couldn’t do it for 6!!

  78. mvb12 says: May 19, 2015 6:47 PM

    Vegas just crapped with the point change

  79. The Almighty Cabbage says: May 19, 2015 6:47 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM
    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Only against the Vikings, because just like last year the Pack will score a touchdown on every drive against Zimmer’s “vaunted” defense.

    Hopefully, Coach McCarthy won’t let up this time and will allow Aaron Rodgers to hang 70, 80, maybe even 100 points on them.

  80. micknangold says: May 19, 2015 6:48 PM

    I don’t know how it happened, but somehow the 32 most football-incompetent people got control of the game.

    Well, it started a long time ago when the NFL was founded. And now it’s been that way continuously leading up to the present. As for how: money.

  81. calvinthegreat82 says: May 19, 2015 6:48 PM

    Vikings fans just got more bad news, now they have another excuse for always finishing in 3rd and mostly 4th place in the division. They need to be kicked out and join the CFL.

    JOIN THE REVOLUTION TODAY AND LETS REMOVE THIS TERRIBLE TEAM FROM THE NFL!!!!!

  82. 🏆🏆Patriots🏆🏆 says: May 19, 2015 6:49 PM

    bantry1234 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:41 PM
    This is a disaster waiting to happen. A team drives 90 yards down the down the field for a last second touchdown to tie the game, then they line up for a game winning extra point. On a freak play like a botched snap or blocked kick, the other team returns the ball for 2 points and ends up winning on a cheap play. How should a team scoring a touchdown give the other team a chance for scoring extra points? Idiotic.
    __________________

    Because if you manage to allow the defense to score on a PAT, you deserve some sort of punishment.

  83. In Teddy We Trust says: May 19, 2015 6:50 PM

    I don’t see why the defense should get 2 points for returning a blocked extra point attempt. If the offense is trying for one, the defense should get just one if they score on it.

  84. phillyphanatic77 says: May 19, 2015 6:50 PM

    Good. It’s about time they made extra points atleast a minor challenge. And finally there’s an incentive for opposing defenses to block them or force turnovers on 2-pointers.

  85. blacknole08 says: May 19, 2015 6:51 PM

    This is stupid. It actually takes away the option of faking it for 2. Or more ballsy.

  86. In Teddy We Trust says: May 19, 2015 6:52 PM

    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 19, 2015 6:47 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM
    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Only against the Vikings, because just like last year the Pack will score a touchdown on every drive against Zimmer’s “vaunted” defense.
    _________

    I just looked at the score of the last game and it was 24-21. I guess the Packers only had the ball 3.5 times.

  87. kylexitron says: May 19, 2015 6:52 PM

    Dumb.

    once one of the NFL corporation’s favorite owner’s teams loses an important game by 1 point because of a missed extra point after a dramatic last second TD to potentially tie it and a once benign trivial play suddenly ruins one team’s season, I expect this to be changed back.

  88. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: May 19, 2015 6:53 PM

    I’m guessing there won’t be many fake extra points.

  89. bornahawker says: May 19, 2015 6:53 PM

    Look for a few blocks returned for two points. Exciting!!

  90. commenter says: May 19, 2015 6:53 PM

    I like it, but this won’t change much. Kickers will still make close to everything, and teams won’t be much more inclined to go for two (other than poor weather scenarios). Step in the right direction, though.

  91. steelcurtainn says: May 19, 2015 6:53 PM

    I wonder how may subway sandwich meetings it took to change this Stupid Rule. Should of left it as it was.

  92. daytontriangles says: May 19, 2015 6:54 PM

    By the end of next season, fans will be accusing the Patriots of having violated the new rules for the last decade.

  93. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: May 19, 2015 6:54 PM

    Wait – so a defense gets points for simply recovering a fumble or getting an interception in the endzone? They don’t have to do any thing else?

    That doesn’t sound right.

    No. You have to return it to the OTHER end zone to get the two points.

  94. gohawks7 says: May 19, 2015 6:54 PM

    FG % from 30-39 is 90%. Probably more like 95% from 33 yards.

    So, how does that do anything but marginally increase the likelihood that a team would go for a 2 pt conversion.

    I don’t think it’s going to change the strategy they already follow very much. Maybe a handful of times per year.

  95. onlinetoughguy says: May 19, 2015 6:55 PM

    So if a team returns a PAT for 2 points, they still receive the kickoff afterwards, right?

  96. jimw81 says: May 19, 2015 6:55 PM

    atleast we know now chip will go for 2 points at will now with tebow….

  97. In Teddy We Trust says: May 19, 2015 6:55 PM

    johngaltwho says:
    May 19, 2015 6:45 PM

    Great. So now we’re gonna have kneel downs on extra points cause someone doesnt want to risk a mess-up resulting in a two point defensive score.
    ________

    Great point. If you have a one-point lead late in the game, you’d be crazy to try the extra point kick. It will probably encourage a 2-point try, but you’d better hold onto that ball.

  98. frank booth says: May 19, 2015 6:55 PM

    purplepride11 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    I like this. No more gimme extra points. Makes a good kicker more valuable and I think more teams will try 2 pt conversions.

    I also love how packer trolls try so hard to turn every article negatively around the vikings. Try harder to be the most idiotic fan base ever please.
    ==================================
    Go read the second post in the thread. It’s from a Viking fan ripping on the Packers.

    Hello Pot.

  99. gohawks7 says: May 19, 2015 6:55 PM

    PLUS it takes away the likelihood of a fake FG almost entirely.

  100. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: May 19, 2015 6:56 PM

    I would do a “fake going for two”. Have the offense line up like they’re going for two, but at the snap have the ball snapped to a running back as a holder and have the QB kick it for an extra point.

  101. eglsfan says: May 19, 2015 6:57 PM

    So this means Tebow will soon be out of Philly???

  102. cometowisconsineveryoneisrelated says: May 19, 2015 6:58 PM

    Here come the excuses form Green Bay, YET again.

  103. saintsfan26 says: May 19, 2015 6:58 PM

    So I guess the fake extra point attempt is now extinct. It will be impossible to fake an extra point with this new rule. Why must they keep trying to fix something that isn’t broken?

  104. frank booth says: May 19, 2015 6:58 PM

    In Teddy We Trust says:
    May 19, 2015 6:52 PM

    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 19, 2015 6:47 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM
    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Only against the Vikings, because just like last year the Pack will score a touchdown on every drive against Zimmer’s “vaunted” defense.
    _________

    I just looked at the score of the last game and it was 24-21. I guess the Packers only had the ball 3.5 times.
    ==================================
    And yet, they beat the Vikings. Again.

  105. igornathanhiggers says: May 19, 2015 6:59 PM

    So after a 10yd holding penalty makes the XP conversion a 42 yarder, does the team get to change their mind and go for a 2pt conversion from the 2, in a sense rendering the penalty useless…or does the 2pt conversion get penalized too…

  106. jcbadger34 says: May 19, 2015 6:59 PM

    purplepride11 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    I like this. No more gimme extra points. Makes a good kicker more valuable and I think more teams will try 2 pt conversions.

    I also love how packer trolls try so hard to turn every article negatively around the vikings. Try harder to be the most idiotic fan base ever please.
    ——-

    Packers trolls trying to turn it around negatively on the Vikings?

    Look at the second comment on the story, buddy. Hint: It’s one of your trolls, posting one minute after the story was put up on the site.

    Derp.

  107. commenter says: May 19, 2015 7:00 PM

    I know it seems kind of radical right now, but I believe the best solution is to eliminate the free XP completely. Make it a regular go-for-it play from the two yard line for one extra point. It would add a ton of significance to the play, and could lead to more unpredictable, dramatic finishes. More 29-25 scores, less 24-21. I think the quality would improve. Either that or just make the touchdown 7 points and move on. XPs are a waste of time from the 2 yard line or the 15 yard line.

  108. 2difshoe says: May 19, 2015 7:00 PM

    To even make it more exciting, the NFL should implement that a QB or kicker will be armed with a tazer gun. A blocked or intercepted 2 point conversion attempt that is returned by the defense and that said player reaching the end zone will now result in 6 points….only if the player returning the blocked kick/interception can elude the QB/Kicker when being fired upon

    A player hit with the tazer dart will result in 2 points for the team attempt the original conversion.

  109. themg32 says: May 19, 2015 7:01 PM

    calvinthegreat82 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:48 PM
    Vikings fans just got more bad news, now they have another excuse for always finishing in 3rd and mostly 4th place in the division. They need to be kicked out and join the CFL.

    JOIN THE REVOLUTION TODAY AND LETS REMOVE THIS TERRIBLE TEAM FROM THE NFL!!!!!
    _________________________________________

    Means a lot from a Lions fan whose team has made the playoffs twice in the last 15 years, not to mention 0-16!

  110. gohawks7 says: May 19, 2015 7:05 PM

    PLUS it takes away the likelihood of a fake FG almost entirely.

    Sorry…meant fake PAT.

  111. billh1947 says: May 19, 2015 7:06 PM

    “Should of left it as it was.”

    Why? give us one good reason why a boring,automatic xtra point shouldnt be changed to a little more dramatic effort in which the team stopping it a chance to get two points of their own on the play. great new rule.

  112. tickawayday says: May 19, 2015 7:06 PM

    Of course this gives my Pats an edge. smh

  113. jeffquery says: May 19, 2015 7:07 PM

    Count me among those that hate it. Get off my lawn. Sad part is – i’z serious

  114. contract says: May 19, 2015 7:07 PM

    Horrible!

  115. brucetrimble says: May 19, 2015 7:08 PM

    D Blandino lacks a moral compass.

  116. freerayray52 says: May 19, 2015 7:09 PM

    Dumb moving the kick to the 15. Now you can’t do a fake FG. Or if there is a fumbled snap, you can’t still attempt a pass or something.

  117. grudenlikesme says: May 19, 2015 7:10 PM

    So if/when a guy gets a 15 yard excessive celebration penalty, there’s going to be close to a 50 yard extra point ?.. Yea, this isn’t going to cause any problems

  118. jjfootball says: May 19, 2015 7:11 PM

    LEAVE THE GAME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  119. jjfootball says: May 19, 2015 7:12 PM

    YOU DON’T FIX WHAT AINT BROKE!

  120. damcmp says: May 19, 2015 7:12 PM

    it shows that the Goodells and the Boob McNairs of this world don’t know jack about football… just squeezing fans out of money

  121. restorativejusticeprogram says: May 19, 2015 7:14 PM

    Stupid.
    Just a few more kicks missed and not any more tries for 2.

  122. lukedunphysscienceproject says: May 19, 2015 7:15 PM

    Another case of the league coming up with a rule that will do absolutely nothing to solve the “problem” is supposedly addresses.

    1) The statistical probability of an extra point will still be much higher than a two point conversion. Not AS high, but still significantly higher. It will still be the far safer play.

    2) the statistical probability of the two point conversion will not change because it is from the same distance. HOWEVER, you are adding the additional element of risk of the defense returning a fumble or INT for two points. This will most likely result in a coaching fraternity that is already extremely risk adverse attempting even fewer 2 point conversions than they did before.

    3) The fake PAT kick will disappear. No team will try it from the 15.

    The net result is that, with the exception of the 5 to 10% more misses you might have, PATs will actually be more anti-climactic than they are now.

  123. damcmp says: May 19, 2015 7:16 PM

    and most of you dummies don’t understand it football either.. you will applaude when they put nets up around the field and when a ball bounces off the net it will be in play

  124. The Almighty Cabbage says: May 19, 2015 7:17 PM

    frank booth says:
    May 19, 2015 6:58 PM
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    May 19, 2015 6:52 PM

    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 19, 2015 6:47 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM
    Will this move prevent the packers from kicking field goals from the 6″ line?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Only against the Vikings, because just like last year the Pack will score a touchdown on every drive against Zimmer’s “vaunted” defense.
    _________

    I just looked at the score of the last game and it was 24-21. I guess the Packers only had the ball 3.5 times.
    ==================================
    And yet, they beat the Vikings. Again.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The first game last year was 42-10 and could easily have been much, much more had McCarthy not taken pity on the hapless Vikings. Over the course of the past 6 years, the Packers are 10-1-1 against the Vikings. That is flat-out ownership right there.

    After this year it will be 12-1-1. Of course, you purple trolls will disappear by midseason but I’m sure you’ll be back for your annual offseason world championship. And the rest of the world will laugh at you as much then as we do now.

  125. 1969nflchampions says: May 19, 2015 7:18 PM

    At least we can still count on Ha Ha to watch the pass on 2 pt conversions fall into the receivers hands without trying anything to stop it.

  126. citpyrc says: May 19, 2015 7:21 PM

    Somehow I get the feeling this is going to lead to more TV timeouts.

  127. The Almighty Cabbage says: May 19, 2015 7:22 PM

    1969nflchampions says:
    May 19, 2015 7:18 PM

    At least we can still count on Ha Ha to watch the pass on 2 pt conversions fall into the receivers hands without trying anything to stop it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yeah, that was rough. Remind me again, where did your Vikings play that day?

  128. ebdug says: May 19, 2015 7:23 PM


    OK, so go buy your own team, and make it allll better.

    Why should I have to own a team? Those idiots don’t.

  129. beerbratscheese says: May 19, 2015 7:24 PM

    And if the football goes into the stands, you get to keep it!

  130. icallbs81 says: May 19, 2015 7:27 PM

    So more concussions. Interesting revelation. I hope a panel with Rog and a bunch of concerned mom’s airs on the NFLN soon.

  131. lukedunphysscienceproject says: May 19, 2015 7:31 PM

    bettis3636 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:17 PM
    LOVVVVVVVE THIS!!!! No more gimmes!!!
    =====

    Still a gimme. Teams hit 95% of their field goals from that range.

    Out of 100 attempts, there will be MAYBE 4 more misses than before.

    Not sure a change that small rates a total of 7 V’s and 7 exclamation points.

  132. revelation123 says: May 19, 2015 7:31 PM

    Its nice that the D can score 2 points, but moving field goals back to the 15 is unnecessary and prevents trick plays.

  133. maestro1899 says: May 19, 2015 7:31 PM

    AGAINST CHANGING THE XP !

    Do we want extra points deciding games?

    Traditional NFL scoring is based on touchdowns being an almost guaranteed 7 points and FGs being 3 points, which is important because it makes one touchdown better than two fgs. This has always been an important philosphy of NFL scoring.

    By attempting to make the extra point “less automatic”, it increases the likely hood that a touchdown won’t beat two fgs on the scoreboard.

  134. whodat5150 says: May 19, 2015 7:39 PM

    According to Dean Blandino, they didn’t move the 2pt to the 1 because they didn’t want the majority of those attempts to be QB sneaks. I think it’ll add impact on the games between dome teams and others in bad weather.

  135. carloswlassiter says: May 19, 2015 7:40 PM

    1969nflchampions says:
    May 19, 2015 7:18 PM

    At least we can still count on Ha Ha to watch the pass on 2 pt conversions fall into the receivers hands without trying anything to stop it.
    ————————————————————-
    Ha! I forget how painful that play was, but I look forward to seeing it in the future on the NFL Network when they review the 100 worst defensive plays of all time.

  136. nyneal says: May 19, 2015 7:45 PM

    I wish they do away with kickers altogether (keep punters, though).

    Let the men play football and determine the outcome of games.

  137. gohawks7 says: May 19, 2015 7:46 PM

    If you score a TD that puts you up by 1 pt, why would you even kick the PAT or go for 2 when the risk is giving up 2 pts to the def. There will be a lot of kneeling down now late in the game with 1 pt lead.

  138. stanza2015 says: May 19, 2015 7:48 PM

    Game is turning to crap. The teams of the 80s now that was football hard hitting allowed etc

  139. slvrkng says: May 19, 2015 7:48 PM

    Next rule change will be electrified shaker field, and players wearing magnetic shoes…just like the kid’s game.

  140. seattlesue427 says: May 19, 2015 7:49 PM

    Forget the extra points…what are they going to do about the handling of game day balls?

  141. upperdecker19 says: May 19, 2015 7:53 PM

    Considerable advantage for dome teams

  142. justintuckrule says: May 19, 2015 7:57 PM

    I went to the library to check out Homer’s Iliad to enlighten myself and when I brought it to the librarian she asked me why I wanted to read the NFL’s constantly changing rule book that I must have picked up by accident.

  143. chrisdacommish says: May 19, 2015 7:58 PM

    Even Forrest, Forrest Gump thinks this is stupid. Of all things to change… Good God…
    I made more important decisions than this before I even got out of the house this morning.

    Now if they wanted to narrow the goal posts by 15′, and light a ring of fire in the middle where you get an extra 2pts, on top of the extra point for getting the ball thru the ring of fire, then I’d be all for it… Sheesh

    #NFLpurist

    PS No “Leaping” allowed.

  144. justintuckrule says: May 19, 2015 7:58 PM

    What happens if the offense jumps offsides a bunch of times or commits a holding on the 2 pter? Can they change their minds and just kick at that point?

    #anotherillconceivedidea

  145. draculalambert says: May 19, 2015 7:59 PM

    Mind. Blown.

  146. verof250 says: May 19, 2015 7:59 PM

    thefatlazygamer says:
    May 19, 2015 6:16 PM
    What happens on a botched snap ala Romo vs. Seahawks? If offense gets it in the endzone from the 15, its only worth one? Doesn’t make sense.

    ————————————————-

    Forgot to carry the 1…math isn’t for everyone.

  147. seasickcecil says: May 19, 2015 8:03 PM

    No worries. The Patriots will just deflate the ball so they can kick it further.

  148. iamthorny says: May 19, 2015 8:04 PM

    Well, there goes the percentage of fake extra point attempts. 😦

  149. gohawks7 says: May 19, 2015 8:05 PM

    The more I think about this…the more I hate it.

    1) No more fake PATs.

    2) If a team goes up by 1 late in the game with a TD….no way are they going to kick a PAT or go for 2 and risk giving up 2 pts to the def. They will take a knee at the 2.

    3) Holding calls or other penalties will now make a 33 yd PAT MUCH longer. 43 yds after a holding call…

    4) This does nothing to increase the likelihood of going for 2.

  150. ghjjf says: May 19, 2015 8:05 PM

    The Dolphins are in trouble!

  151. steves11 says: May 19, 2015 8:07 PM

    “So now we’re gonna have kneel downs on extra points cause someone doesnt want to risk a mess-up resulting in a two point defensive score.”

    Don’t worry about it. Joe Pisarcik retired a long time ago.

  152. justintuckrule says: May 19, 2015 8:09 PM

    Dopey Goodell just encouraged every team to go for 2, commit whatever penalty you might be able to get away with (pick play anyone) and if you get flagged (which rarely happens to the offense anyway), you can take two steps back and just kick the gimme 1 anyway.

    Alternatively, the defense can mug the offense into submission until the 2 pter fails (that close to the EZ, half the distance penalties are nothing).

    Way to go billionaires. How you ree-rees made your money is anyone’s guess.

  153. jova99 says: May 19, 2015 8:13 PM

    Field goals are getting too easy

    they need to return to the wider hash marks , back to the width college football still uses.

    in the NFL hash marks are 18 feet 6 inches wide; in college they are 40 feet wide. Makes it harder to hit field goals with the wider angles.

  154. bbwasright says: May 19, 2015 8:21 PM

    I hope they sufficiently addressed the issue of fake extra point attempts. I’m going to assume that a team could still attempt a two point conversion from the 15, lined up like a kick? If so, that makes for an interesting decision for the defense: The ball will go overhead at a lower trajectory since the distance will be longer, making it easier to block with a good pressure play. But, if they line up all 11 men on the line to block, they open up a huge space behind them for a receiver to get open for an easy conversion. That might actually encourage teams to be less aggressive on the PAT, to discourage an easier fake.

    Of course, if the league didn’t clarify the potential for a fake kick, you know this will be the next “cheating” the Patriots are accused of for running a fake attempt with a wide open Gronk in the backfield. Come on, haters, what should we call this up-and-coming “beli-cheat” scandal? Deception-gate? Kick-gate? How about fake-gate?

  155. bornmnraised says: May 19, 2015 8:22 PM

    Wait, there are only 32 owners?

    My packer friends are going to be very dismayed…. Are you saying that they spent all that money just for a piece of paper and they don’t actually get the power of an owner?

  156. realfootballfan says: May 19, 2015 8:25 PM

    The further cartoonization of the league. Next stop, Arena League status.

  157. katolungile says: May 19, 2015 8:29 PM

    They should add the Canadian rouge while there at it.

    Boy is this league trying desperately to jump the shark.

  158. ivanpavlov0000 says: May 19, 2015 8:29 PM

    I’m very happy about this. For years I’ve been wanting the NFL to adopt a rule change allowing the defense to score on an extra point attempt. Strategically, this a game changer in a big way. There’s now an element of risk in trying an extra point. More game drama = more fun.

    Pushing the extra point back is ok. I think it’s no big deal, but I’ll need to see percent numbers of kicks between 30-35 yards vs. extra points to understand the true significance.

  159. DavieO says: May 19, 2015 8:30 PM

    Love the comments that this is Goodell’s doing, um, nope this is the doing of 32, well 30 owners. People seem to think that Goodell owns the NFL and makes all these decisions. News flash, he works for the owners! They set the rules and he just enforces them.

    Also, if a special team defense can jump the line, block the PAT, recover the ball and run it back 70+ yards they SHOULD get 2pts out of it!

  160. NFLisnotreality says: May 19, 2015 8:38 PM

    Garo Ypremian, Morten Andersen, Rafael Septién, Mick Luckhurst, Fuad Reveiz, Rolf Benirschke, and Efren Herrera
    Do not approve…
    That is all.

  161. Wineshard says: May 19, 2015 8:41 PM

    More interest in the PAT is good. It also helps ratings on commercials as more people will watch the PAT. Right now it is a beer break.

    They needed to do something as the KO is a non-action event now.

  162. sportsfan18 says: May 19, 2015 9:03 PM

    bettis3636 says:
    May 19, 2015 6:17 PM
    LOVVVVVVVE THIS!!!! No more gimmes!!!

    87 72
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This made me want to check the stats for kicking last year.

    In 2014, all field goals from 30 to 39 yards, from every kicker, they went a combined 265 out of 292. That works out to 90.7%.

    The NBA player with the highest career free throw percentage has a career percentage of 90.4%

    Many folks think the top free throw shooters are automatic from the line, guys like Steph Curry, Steve Nash and others.

    NFL kickers averaged higher as a group than the top ever career free throw shooter in the NBA.

    Also, I bet if kicks longer than 32 or 33 yards were eliminated from the stats then the average would go up from 90.7% as I bet many (not all, but many) of the misses were from beyond 33 yards.

    Again, that includes kicks from 38 yards, 39 yards, 37 yards etc… as it covered all FG attempts from 30 to 39 yards.

    Only one kicked missed 3 FG’s from 30 something yards last year.

    TEN kickers attempted 10 or more FG’s from 30 to 39 yards last season and didn’t miss even one.

    So, you’re right that this won’t be a gimmie but from 32 or 33 yards, the kickers as a whole should make well over 90% of the kicks…

  163. imnotsorryisaidthat says: May 19, 2015 9:11 PM

    IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT..YOU ARE RUINING OUR GAME

  164. cafetero1075 says: May 19, 2015 9:16 PM

    Wow, I was never a NFL fan, now I will watch every game. (sarcasm)

  165. dlux36 says: May 19, 2015 9:18 PM

    Now they can go to commercial before the PAT attempt due to the new “drama”, after the PAT and after the kick off…those boys are always thinkin’

  166. bkostela says: May 19, 2015 9:18 PM

    weepingjebus says:
    May 19, 2015 6:31 PM
    Ugh. Tagliabue must feel like a guy who gave his beautiful Porsche to Goodell and has been listening to explosions and police sirens ever since. Soon there will be nothing left.
    _____________________

    Uhhhhh, last I checked Goodell isn’t one of the 32 owners…

  167. annapterp says: May 19, 2015 9:19 PM

    The slow decline of the NFL continues…

  168. autumnwind999 says: May 19, 2015 9:41 PM

    Kind of dumb.

  169. frank booth says: May 19, 2015 10:00 PM

    1969nflchampions says:
    May 19, 2015 7:18 PM

    At least we can still count on Ha Ha to watch the pass on 2 pt conversions fall into the receivers hands without trying anything to stop it.
    ==================================
    Wow. 1969 NFL Championship. Just wow. So cool.

  170. bigdog2372 says: May 19, 2015 10:01 PM

    Is there some kind of outcry from the fans for this rule change that I am unaware of? It seems like the NFL is currently in a year to year pattern of changing the rules just for the sake of changing the rules. What ever happened to “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.”? I have always thought that defenses should be able to return blocked PATs, but the rest of it is dumb.

  171. lovethebills says: May 19, 2015 10:17 PM

    They waste their time in this but not change what constitutes a catch. Not a Cowboys fan but they got screwed in Green Bay.

  172. brewersfan1102 says: May 19, 2015 10:20 PM

    Aren’t the Vikings moving to LA? Change their name and jerseys. I mean really, what man wants to wear purple.

    @InTeddyWeTrust Packers play the queens twice a year. Check the stats on the other game, genius.

    @ariani1985 ………Troll.

  173. ryanw822 says: May 19, 2015 11:19 PM

    the only people crying about extra point attempts being too close is the talking head experts.

    NFL is all about player safety. Well now players are going to go much harder in attempt to block these extra points. Be curious to see if the roughing/running into the kicker penalties go up. In the past, that type of penalty might turn a FG attempt into a TD. Now it’ll be maybe a 1 point penalty or a team will kick off from midfield. No big deal.

  174. jova99 says: May 19, 2015 11:23 PM

    They should have narrowed the goal posts to make it harder for kickers to score, and widened the hash marks to the same distance used in college games.

    50 yard field goals are getting easier to make each year, need to make it more challenging for all aspects of the kicking game.

  175. pack15forever says: May 19, 2015 11:24 PM

    If it ain’t broken don’t fix it!

  176. Norseman says: May 19, 2015 11:47 PM

    Good move on balance. Good to have it for only one year at first too, in case it proves to effect the game in undesirable, unforeseen ways.

    Given that the 2-point conversion has been around a while now, I doubt it will have that much impact. I’m guessing the default option for teams will still be to kick it, just a little greater degree of difficulty.

  177. packmanfan says: May 19, 2015 11:47 PM

    I dunno. I don’t see how this is going to make it already more exciting than it already is if kickers are making the extra point just as much as they already do.
    Have them with roller skates being towed with a motorcycle and they have to get it in between a target like in Roller ball.
    Have a sexy chick dressed up in a bikini or the mascot come out and kick it while bouncing up and down on a trampoline.
    Have them fake every 3rd try and they score 4 points if they get it in.
    Let it be all 53 players for both sides on the field at once to get it in or block it.
    Land mines.
    Moving goal posts in random patterns.
    Just a few ideas for the goal (Ha!) of more exciting.

  178. funshipm174 says: May 20, 2015 12:21 AM

    Leave well enough alone.

  179. rams1965 says: May 20, 2015 12:30 AM

    If it isn’t broken, the Patriots will figure out a way to FIX it.

  180. sewalters79 says: May 20, 2015 12:58 AM

    This is racist and a reason to further remove white players from the league-Stephen A Smith

  181. pftmaniac says: May 20, 2015 12:59 AM

    The NFL should eliminate the 1-point PAT kick and force teams to go for two every time. The scoring strategies and lead changes would be much more exciting. A touchdown could only be worth a net of 4 points if the 2-point conversion attempt fails and the defense scores on the play. There may be instances where teams kneel on the 2-point play to avoid the risk of having it returned.

  182. rpbags says: May 20, 2015 2:16 AM

    All this means is that a kicker will lose his job faster than a speeding bullet and lost of games will be won and lost this way…..Sucks if you play all your games outside #clevelandsuperbowl15

  183. butski29 says: May 20, 2015 5:32 AM

    Should be the fifty, not the fifteen.

  184. ardrick says: May 20, 2015 6:35 AM

    so much for the fake extra point for a 2 pt conversion. I realize it didn’t happen a lot but it did happen.

  185. hodag54501 says: May 20, 2015 6:48 AM

    Bill Belichick had it right when he suggested a touchdown should be seven points. Period. If a team wanted an extra point, then go for another snap at the two yard line and if successful, it would be a tw0-point conversion.
    But it likely would cut into the time for more TV commercials, so toss it out. TV rules when you pay billions of dollars, I guess.

    What they adopted is a modified college rule.

  186. essentialsausage says: May 20, 2015 7:00 AM

    BOOOOOOOOOOO! It’s an extra point, it’s not supposed to be difficult.

  187. bengalsfan2079 says: May 20, 2015 7:52 AM

    Trying to be cute just for the sake of being cute should have left it like it was.

  188. semperfiguy1011 says: May 20, 2015 8:02 AM

    Too many changes. The traditional NFL is gone. Goodell is presiding over the destruction of the league.

  189. fantasyfootballfan says: May 20, 2015 8:13 AM

    I’m sure Chip Kelly is giddy as can be right now.

    I find it comical to see comments from people who can’t accept change and want to cry and mope about everything.

  190. TheDPR says: May 20, 2015 8:33 AM

    Something tells me the league and team offices are completely out of touch with the fans who purchase their product. I haven’t heard a single person ever say that the NFL game is boring and needs more drama due to the extra point. I HAVE heard people say kickoffs are boring now because there are so few chances for a return (another “lets invent a problem and then fix it” move by the league).

    It gets worse every season.

  191. kosarkid says: May 20, 2015 8:54 AM

    That chart every coach has that tells them when to go for 2 pts just became irrelevant.

  192. bspurloc says: May 20, 2015 8:54 AM

    “Blocked extra points can also be returned for two points.”

    so kicking it from 30 yards out isnt going to create kicks landing somewhere in between making them dead balls??? why must it be blocked to be returned?

  193. The Almighty Cabbage says: May 20, 2015 9:07 AM

    bornmnraised says:
    May 19, 2015 8:22 PM

    Wait, there are only 32 owners?

    My packer friends are going to be very dismayed…. Are you saying that they spent all that money just for a piece of paper and they don’t actually get the power of an owner?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Your Minnesota is showing. It’s rather obvious that you, as well as most Minnesotans, just can’t grasp the fact that there are 2 distinctly different types of stock in the Green Bay Packers.

    One is the same as any other stock and signifies actual ownership. It can be sold or traded on the open market and comes with voting privileges. The other is a souvenir that allows ONLY those fans that wish to contribute towards stadium renovations and upgrades to do so without forcing those taxpayers to pay for them that may not want to.

    Both serve very important purposes. The first assures us that our team can never move. We are not now, nor will we ever be, under the thumb of a greedy owner like the Wilfs. The second is the reason that Lambeau Field is the 3rd largest of all NFL stadiums and is continually recognized as the number one place on Earth to watch professional American football.

    But you go right ahead and enjoy the next few years of sub .500 football in that little bandbox that the Wilfs extorted out of you.

  194. mogogo1 says: May 20, 2015 9:25 AM

    So much for the element of surprise. But I don’t see this mentioned: If a snap is botched on a kick and then ran in that would be a single point I’m assuming?

  195. nhpats says: May 20, 2015 9:28 AM

    facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says:
    May 19, 2015 6:53 PM
    I’m guessing there won’t be many fake extra points.

    ——————–
    How many were there last season? I’m thinking it won’t change much….

  196. shortmandan says: May 20, 2015 9:36 AM

    Those who think this is a stupid change must’ve liked watching automatic extra points. How exciting they were! What a bunch of mouth breathers.

  197. v2787 says: May 20, 2015 9:51 AM

    This is a ridiculous and unnecessary change just for the sake of change. It’s going to open up all sorts of cans of worms. For example, now coaches are going to have to decide where they want the ball spotted after a touchdown. And what if they change their minds about whether to kick or run for the extra point(s)–will the officials then have to re-spot the ball at the last second? I’m sure other unforseen problems will occur as things move forward. This is gonna get ugly. Bad move, NFL.

  198. v2787 says: May 20, 2015 9:57 AM

    “They waste their time in this but not change what constitutes a catch. Not a Cowboys fan but they got screwed in [the] Green Bay [game].”

    I couldn’t agree more. I’m no Cowboy fan either–I’m a pro football fan, and Stevie Wonder could see that Dez Bryant caught that ball. Having the catch taken away from Bryant was a total travesty. Figure out some realistic rules that will actually define what constitutes a catch, NFL, and stop monkeying around with irrelevant stuff like extra points.

  199. Teddy Buy Me A Bruschi says: May 20, 2015 9:58 AM

    The Minnesota Vikings have the most playoff losses in NFL history AND the most Super Bowl losses.

  200. fwippel says: May 20, 2015 10:08 AM

    This rule stinks, especially the part about the defense being able to score. It amounts to change for the sake of change, instead for any good reason.

    You want to make extra points more interesting? Make it easier for the defense to block the kicks by getting a running start and jumping at the line of scrimmage.

    If Roger Goodell was the MLB commissioner, the pitcher’s mound would be moved back ten feet for safety, the pitch count would be reduced to 3 balls and 3 strikes to speed up the game, and foul balls on two-strike counts would count as strike-outs, and it would all be done just to see what the change would be like – i.e., for no reason at all.

  201. ariani1985 says: May 20, 2015 10:35 AM

    BIG time packer STOCK HOLDER chiming in, how come I didn’t get a vote? I bought the stock! Why? (As I fall to my knees crying)

  202. ariani1985 says: May 20, 2015 10:42 AM

    NO team has lost more super bowl games in the last decade than the patriots!

  203. willyalistentothis says: May 20, 2015 10:57 AM

    The 15 yard part is fine. The 2 point return sucks. Team down by 8 and scores a TD with 2 minutes. The 2pt try is picked and returned for two points. Now the team is down by 4 instead of 2. Getting the ball back and kicking a FG to win can’t happen. The PAT which has until now always been a bonus for scoring a TD can now end up being a punishment. And in this case, an exciting ending to an NFL game has been spoiled.

  204. Teddy Buy Me A Bruschi says: May 20, 2015 10:59 AM

    Nobody cares about single decades. Unless you are the fan of a team that has been a loser for multiple decades.

  205. aragorn1391 says: May 20, 2015 11:02 AM

    So who will be the first coach that will try and fake the extra point and go for 2 from the 15?

  206. jmc8888 says: May 20, 2015 11:12 AM

    Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb……DUMB!!!!!!!!!

    I could of accepted the move to the one for 2 point tries.

    The allowing of the defense to return it for 2 points is just fine.

    But moving it back to the 15 just means that more people will have to watch their teams lose much more often, due to missing an XP.

    That’s absolutely horrible. I and no one wants to watch their team lose because of a freaking XP miss.

    This lowers the quality of the game, and creates a situation where something basically meaningless causes them to lose. A once in a blue moon miss from the 2 yard line denotes a real screw up. One from the 15 does not, and it will happen more often, and in bad weather…good luck. With penalties, good luck.

    People liked the way it was. You didn’t miss it, and if you did, it was really funny because it was so rare and you could say that guy really screwed up. Plus Roger, people don’t want to be around during the XP.

    This is when people go to the bathroom, get some food, or whatever. This is when your paying fans at games have that little bit more time to have a smoke out in the boondocks you send them at the stadium. Overall, people want that break, and Roger is screwing with it for no reason.

    We’ll see about any backlash for 2015. My guess is that there will be. How big, I don’t know. But this simply isn’t a good rule change for many reasons.

  207. The Almighty Cabbage says: May 20, 2015 11:12 AM

    aragorn1391 says:
    May 20, 2015 11:02 AM

    So who will be the first coach that will try and fake the extra point and go for 2 from the 15?
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    Now THAT is an interesting question. Sean Payton maybe? Pete Carroll? Chip Kelly? Mike McCarthy is sometimes pretty courageous about onside kicks and going for it on 4th down but I don’t see him trying it.

  208. conormacleod says: May 20, 2015 12:33 PM

    1. A blocked kick returned for a TD hardly ever happens. Not a big deal. I’ll be surprised if there are more than 2 this year. I’ll bet maybe 1.
    2. NOBODY is going to fake an extra point. Just stop saying that.
    3. None of you are going to change your viewing habits due to this rule.
    4. Most of you will create things to be angry about, even if you don’t care all that much.

  209. frank booth says: May 20, 2015 1:24 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    May 20, 2015 10:42 AM

    NO team has lost more super bowl games in the last decade than the patriots!
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    Who cares? They just won it last year. And prior to the decade, they won it two times in a row. They’re typically in the hunt, like the Packers and Steelers are. That’s where you want your teams to be.

    You just don’t want to have them get into the Super Bowl and lose it every time. That must be an excruciating for both the team and its fans.

  210. purplepackerhater says: May 20, 2015 1:26 PM

    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 20, 2015 9:07 AM
    bornmnraised says:
    May 19, 2015 8:22 PM

    Wait, there are only 32 owners?

    My packer friends are going to be very dismayed…. Are you saying that they spent all that money just for a piece of paper and they don’t actually get the power of an owner?
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    Your Minnesota is showing. It’s rather obvious that you, as well as most Minnesotans, just can’t grasp the fact that there are 2 distinctly different types of stock in the Green Bay Packers.

    One is the same as any other stock and signifies actual ownership. It can be sold or traded on the open market and comes with voting privileges. The other is a souvenir that allows ONLY those fans that wish to contribute towards stadium renovations and upgrades to do so without forcing those taxpayers to pay for them that may not want to.

    Both serve very important purposes. The first assures us that our team can never move. We are not now, nor will we ever be, under the thumb of a greedy owner like the Wilfs. The second is the reason that Lambeau Field is the 3rd largest of all NFL stadiums and is continually recognized as the number one place on Earth to watch professional American football.

    But you go right ahead and enjoy the next few years of sub .500 football in that little bandbox that the Wilfs extorted out of you.
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    Wow, just wow. First off, if every single packer fan with ‘stock’, souvenir or “legit”, voted on an issue, it wouldn’t matter! The GM and other packer decision makers will do what they want and at most would tell you they’re taking your vote petitioin ‘under advisement’ as they use it to wipe their ass with.

    I’m sure if you collectively voted to add laxatives to the concession stands you could get it passed. We all know how backed up you excessively obese sconnies are with the truck loads of cheese you gorge yourselves on. *30% of sconnies are obese, and that stat is rising, that’s a fact*.

    Just because lambeau is big, doesn’t make it great. A big piece of crap still smells. Besides, they had to make it extra big to fit all you obese sconnies.

    But even if you were right, ask yourself this…would you rather have 100k drunken, obese, idiotic, too genetically similar plebes owning your team
    or
    ONE billionaire who made his money BUILDING STRUCTURES, which is what a stadium is for those sconnie readers who lose attention after a single syllable, with a willingness to spend excessively to win?

  211. Teddy Buy Me A Bruschi says: May 20, 2015 3:20 PM

    “ONE billionaire who made his money BUILDING STRUCTURES, which is what a stadium is for those sconnie readers who lose attention after a single syllable, with a willingness to spend excessively to win?”

    Ha Ha! If you were smart, you would know that the Wilf’s are spending a dime on the stadium. They are using tax money, 200M from the NFL and the rest of the money that hey are “paying out of their own pockets'” is just temporary while they pass that cost onto the bandwagon fans in the form of PSL’s. The rest will be made up in the naming rights.

    It’s amazing how stupid Vikings fans are. But they prove that every day here.

  212. cptbuff says: May 26, 2015 5:03 PM

    If any defense returns a 2 point try for 2 points of their own this year, I’ll be surprised. If it happens twice or more, I’ll be downright shocked.

    Just leave the game alone. Make the TDs worth 7 automatically if the XP is too boring for you, with an option to risk a point to go for 2. This is so dumb.

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