CBA doesn’t require Brady hearing to start within 10 days after appeal

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Some are reporting that the appeal of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s four-game suspension won’t be heard before Wednesday. That is correct.

Some are suggesting that Wednesday is the deadline for starting the appeal hearing. That is not correct.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL Players Association interprets the operative language of Article 46 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement to require only that a date for the appeal hearing be set within 10 days after the appeal is filed.

The rule is a bit clunky. “Appeal hearings under Section 1(a) will be scheduled to commence within ten (10) days following receipt of the notice of appeal,” Article 46, Section 2(f)(i) provides. A fair reading of the awkward terms of the standard could be that the hearing itself must commence within 10 days after the appeal is filed. But if the union doesn’t interpret it that way, it’s not an issue.

And in this case the fact that the hearing won’t start by Wednesday isn’t an issue.

69 responses to “CBA doesn’t require Brady hearing to start within 10 days after appeal

  1. A pissed off Brady versus an entrenched Goodell who has nowhere to back off to. Goodell already played the “we got it wrong” card last year. A collision is coming.

    …get your popcorn.

  2. If your a QB (greatest of all time) and you set your footballs to 12.5 pounds before game And you hand the balls over to idiot refs who use improper gauges and then set the balls to 13.5 or greater because it’s not big deal to the refs Because their gauges are off.

    You would tell your ball boys to make sure the balls are set to 12.5 And you don’t care how it’s done.

  3. Tom Brady and deflategate is nearing the top of the list of things I don’t care about. There’s been so much overkill on this topic. Wake me up when the decision comes on his appeal.

  4. Only people who have lied during this whole thing have been the NFL.
    From saying the issue only arose at halftime, to sending a letter to patriots with false numbers, to letting leaks stand with wrong numbers, to goodell flat out lying last week that wells looked into the leagues actions.

    Can’t wait to see NFL officials under oath. Wonder if they will perjure themselves or finally tell the truth

  5. So how long can they go before the appeal is heard? Could they just delay it until after his suspension is up and then when it is overturned say “oops, our bad, here’s those game checks back.”

    Because then everyone wins. The people who want to see Brady suspended see him miss games, the people who don’t want him to be punished have his punishment overturned and his pay returned, and all is well with the world.

  6. “Its easy to talk about, its easy to sum it up when you just talk about air. We sittin’ in here, I’m supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talkin’ about air. I mean listen, we talkin bout air. Not a game, not a game, not a game. We talkin bout air. Not a game, not a, not a, not the game that I go out there and die for, and play every game like its my last. Not the game. We talkin’ bout air, man. I mean how silly is that? We talkin’ bout air. I know I’m supposed to be there, I know I’m supposed to lead by example. I know that, and I’m not shovin’ it aside, you know, like it don’t mean anything. I know its important, I do. I honestly do. But we talkin’ bout air, man. What are we talkin’ bout? Air? We talkin’ bout air man. We talk… We talkin’ bout air. We talkin’ bout air. We ain’t talkin’ bout the game, we talkin’ bout air, man. When you come into the stadium, and you see me play, you see me play, don’t you? You see me give everything I got, right? But we talkin’ bout air right now. We talkin’ bout air. (crowd laughs) Man look, I hear you, its funny to me too. I mean, its strange, its strange to me too. But we talkin’ bout air man. We not even talkin’ bout the game, the actual game, when it matters. We talkin’ bout air.”

    Tom Brady

  7. With Goodell running it it’ll be like the trial in Alice in Wonderland, only with less dignity and rule of law.

  8. nflrulebook says:
    May 25, 2015 10:11 PM
    Only people who have lied during this whole thing have been the NFL.
    From saying the issue only arose at halftime, to sending a letter to patriots with false numbers, to letting leaks stand with wrong numbers, to goodell flat out lying last week that wells looked into the leagues actions.

    Can’t wait to see NFL officials under oath. Wonder if they will perjure themselves or finally tell the truth
    ———-
    So that must be why Kraft dropped his appeal, and why belecheat doesn’t even believe brady*. Thanks for giving us the blind lemming point of view.

  9. How hard is it to write something in plain language that is not open to interpretation? It seems to me that the intent is for the hearing itself to start within 10 days but the wording allows for the mere scheduling to “commence” because lawyers will argue anything as long as they can gain an advantage (or a paycheck) from it.

    The language above does not require a date be set but that is what the union somehow interprets. The word commence means begin or start. It implies a process. You can argue that it requires the scheduling to start (not end) but there is no time limit to that process. As long as they try to merge schedules by the 10th day, they can take weeks to finalize an actual date if they wanted to.

    All they had to do was say the appeal hearing must commence within 10 days… That forces the scheduling and identifies a window to start the appeal. Because of the way they worded that paragraph, either side can take as long as they want (which is probably the point).

  10. patsstinkoftaint says:
    May 25, 2015 10:02 PM

    Tom’s gonna need plenty of time to get all his lies straight, so they’re in no hurry.

    #LegacyofCheating

    #uhohfumblesrupagain

    #troll

  11. magnumpimustache says:
    May 25, 2015 10:09 PM
    If your a QB (greatest of all time) and you set your footballs to 12.5 pounds before game And you hand the balls over to idiot refs who use improper gauges and then set the balls to 13.5 or greater because it’s not big deal to the refs Because their gauges are off.

    You would tell your ball boys to make sure the balls are set to 12.5 And you don’t care how it’s done.
    ****

    Well, Joe Montana, the greatest of all time, disagrees

    And Eli Manning, who OWNS Tom Brady, also disagrees

    #keeptheexcusescoming

  12. just get it over with, everyone knows goodell cant change it without looking like (more) of a moron so hurry up and let the lawsuits fly, thats where the entertainment will be.

  13. This is the part where Brady woo do what Kraft just couldn’t die to being an owner… I PRAY that Goodell does not drop the suspension so Brady & his group of Lawyers can DESTROY Goodell & his cronies in courts… The NFL league (under Goodells dictatorship) is a corrupt power hungry click that needs ANOTHER beatdown… I REALLY REALLY want this play out all the way so Goodell/Wells/Kensel/ & any others involved by the league sting to get EXPOSED & removed!!!
    Rogers only hope is to give Brady COMPLETE EXONERATION of all 4 games & I’m hoping his EGO is too big for that!!!

  14. dtp15 says:
    May 25, 2015 9:39 PM

    Ray McDonald will get a lesser punishment than Tom Brady.

    McDonald’s screw ups are off the field.

    Brady is part of a conspiracy to rig the games. Brady should be out for a year or like the Black Sox banned for life.

  15. patsstinkoftaint says:
    May 25, 2015 10:34 PM

    magnumpimustache says:
    May 25, 2015 10:09 PM
    If your a QB (greatest of all time) and you set your footballs to 12.5 pounds before game And you hand the balls over to idiot refs who use improper gauges and then set the balls to 13.5 or greater because it’s not big deal to the refs Because their gauges are off.

    You would tell your ball boys to make sure the balls are set to 12.5 And you don’t care how it’s done.
    ****

    Well, Joe Montana, the greatest of all time, disagrees

    And Eli Manning, who OWNS Tom Brady, also disagrees

    #keeptheexcusescoming
    #Elican’tcarrybradysjock
    #Montanaofthecheatin49ers

  16. VenerableAxiom says:
    May 25, 2015 10:31 PM

    nflrulebook says:
    May 25, 2015 10:11 PM
    Only people who have lied during this whole thing have been the NFL.
    From saying the issue only arose at halftime, to sending a letter to patriots with false numbers, to letting leaks stand with wrong numbers, to goodell flat out lying last week that wells looked into the leagues actions.

    Can’t wait to see NFL officials under oath. Wonder if they will perjure themselves or finally tell the truth
    ———-
    So that must be why Kraft dropped his appeal, and why belecheat doesn’t even believe brady*. Thanks for giving us the blind lemming point of view.
    ———
    Thanks for reading headlines and not the whole story. Thanks for actually reading the Wells report(that was sarcasm) And thanks for the hate. Meanwhile Patriot nation has 4 shiny Lombardis to polish and yet another banner to unfurl. Blind lemming……..look in a mirror.

  17. @viableaxiom

    ” That’s why even Belichick doesn’t even believe Brady”

    I’m certain that you can provide a direct quote from Belichick to support your accusation. Don’t bother with a Ron Borges hearsay tale that begins with ” people I’ve spoken to “. I’m looking for an actual quote.
    .

  18. P roven
    A dmitted
    T wice-convicted
    R evis
    I s
    O nly
    T he
    S tart

    just wait till the other ex-Pats start talking, Wilfork and Ridley are gonna blow the lid off of Bill’s cheatscapades

  19. Brady’s lawyers are going to chew up Goodell and the NFL….

    Just like Kraft’s did.

    LOL

    Your owner admitted guilt for both spygate and deflategate.

    CHEATERS

    Cheers and Godbless

  20. A trained investigator couldn’t even get EITHER of the ball guys to admit to any wrong doing ( because they didn’t) & now all of a sudden ex Patriots players are gonna start talking… & RIDLEY?? Seriously, Ridley??… Bill benched him a ton because he couldn’t hang on to the Ball & that’s why they let him walk… Oh but wait, the deflated balls made it so Ridley couldn’t fumble…hmmmm that’s confusing isn’t it??!!
    Just because you all NEED & HOPE the Patriots did something just doesn’t make it true!!!
    I also thought it was interesting that after D’Quell Jackson intercepted Brady he is actually QUOTED as saying he felt no difference in the ball he just wanted it as a prize for after the game…
    The Wells/Goodell sting will get BLASTED in court!!!
    As a Patriots fan I can’t wait for Tom & his lawyers to shred that report like he shred the Colts D…& most every other teams D for that matter!!

  21. Reality check baby chose the right name, he is a big baby Seahawks fan. Someone should tell him that the Greatriots carved up the Seaturkeys with fully inflated footballs.

  22. Show me the quote where Revis said the Patriots cheated when he was there/ You can’t because there isn’t one. You see this is typical of the Pats haters, they take a quote out of context and then try to use that as evidence they did something wrong. All Revis said was the Pats have history with Spygate….and what he failed to mention was the Jets admitted to and were fined for CHEATING when they signed him.

    I don’t blame the jealous fans though…its their schools who couldn’t think of ways to teach them literacy…

    yourteamcheats.com

  23. realitycheckbaby says:
    May 25, 2015 11:16 PM
    Brady’s lawyers are going to chew up Goodell and the NFL….

    Just like Kraft’s did.

    LOL

    Your owner admitted guilt for both spygate and deflategate.

    CHEATERS

    Cheers and Godbless

    ==========================
    Nice try….

    Kraft absolutly admitted to nothing about the farce deflategate… He only RELUCTANTLY accepted the penalties imposed by the LEAGUE… You know, the league HE is actually a MEMBER OF.. What was he suppose to do, take HIMSELF & the other 31 members to court?? That would just be a BRILLIANT move both politically & financially wouldn’t it??!! Kraft had ZERO chance to take this to court without being blackballed… He doesn’t have the luxury that PLAYERS do….BRADY can NOW do what Kraft couldn’t & that’s expose the Wells report for all it’s NOT!!!
    & here’s a reality check for you…patriots are Super Bowl 49 Champions!!!
    Good night & GOD Bless

  24. Ray McDonald should on principle get a lesser penalty than Brady, well except he is a multiple offender, because he had an off-field incident. Brady CHEATED on the field, and along with his organization and coach, has done so for many years. Minor? Maybe. If it doesn’t matter, why does he do it? Are the Rice/Peterson/Hardy/McDonald incidents hurting the integrity of the game? Of course, although they are more tarnishing the brand type incidents. Are they in-game cheating, like the Patriots and Brady? Nope – not the same thing. One is obviously worse in life, but the other actually violates the integrity of the game. Stop being homers and recognize the difference.

  25. See that picture above… That’s how many RINGS Brady will have after he wins the Super Bowl this coming year
    He’s on a mission now & a ticked off Brady is NOT what other teams ever want to see….YOU ALL can thank Roger & Wells for that one !!

  26. kissbillsrings,

    Imagine what Browner is passing along to Sean Payton right now, who must be just tickled to see how lightly Tom Brady got off…..

    #Loomisonline1

    #morepenaltiesinthepipeline

  27. Yeah Kraft didn’t admit guilt because we all plead guilty and accept punishment foe things we didn’t do.

    H ha ha ha

    He already said spygate was something y
    he admitted to.

    A legacy of cheating.

    Pats = Lance Armstrong.

    Both will be thought of the same way.

    Cheers and God Bless.

  28. patsstinkoftaint says:
    May 25, 2015 11:49 PM
    kissbillsrings,

    Imagine what Browner is passing along to Sean Payton right now, who must be just tickled to see how lightly Tom Brady got off…..

    #Loomisonline1

    #morepenaltiesinthepipeline
    ==============================
    Browner & probably passing along what it’s like to be a Super Bowl champion…. Just in case Sean can’t remember back that far…

    But hopefully for Browner Sean can tell him how to defend without drawing a penalty… I know Bill struggled with that one himself… Probably why he let him walk raven with an already depleted secondary….. Well, one can only hope as a Saints fan that is…

  29. Yep. They did admit to “spy”gate. Which wasn’t about “spying,” it was about taping OUTSIDE of the coach’s box. You see, video taping was allowed, but the location was not. The camera boy was supposed to be taping where everyone else was “spying”… Look it up. And admitting it and taking their punishment because they were in the wrong took CLASS. Brady isn’t admitting it or taking any punishment because he is innocent. Only a man that is innocent would stand against being wrongly accused.

  30. Looks pretty clear to me that Wednesday is the date by which it is suppose to start. There is no other way to interpret “will be scheduled to commence within ten (10) days following receipt of the notice of appeal”. If it doesn’t start, then the NFL will have effectively given Brady an argument to file a legal appeal with the Courts, outside of his authority…because he will have neglected to complete his duty to follow the agreed terms of the CBA. The NFLPA, as Florio reports, wouldn’t care for this exact reason. And, if I doesn’t start on time…then clearly Goodell is giving himself a backdoor exit.

    That will be messed up! If they let Brady off the hook for Cheating, it will meanthe NL has literally become the WWF of the 80’s (complete waste of time). I won’t be a fan of the NFL any longer.

  31. Just read that both the NFL & NFLPA must agree to an extension. The fact that the NFLPA are saying “it’s not an issue” suggests to me that the delay is likely being requested by Brady’s side…to give him time to work the propaganda corner like the last harlot standin’ after a long Saturday night, having missed all the easy tricks.

  32. Right now, Kraft & Belichick are leaning on Brady *not* to bring in his phone. Which means he doesn’t even have the “new evidence” excuse to have his suspension reduced.

    The suspension will stand and Tom will avoid talking about the issue altogether in order to give the lemmings as much room to make excuses for him as possible.

  33. 1. Patriot fans should want Goodell to hear the case – if he has a deal in place with Kraft, that’s the way for it to happen.

    2. If your argument includes other teams who have cheated, then you are admitting Tom cheated. (ex: Rice using stickum).

    3. If you are comparing Tom’s suspension to other players (ex: Ray McDonald)’s upcoming suspension), then you are admitting he cheated.

    4. I thought Tom was going to respond to the Wells report. That’s what he told the fans at Salem. He is free to speak publicly. He is not going to court and is not under investigation. He simply has an appeal.

    5. Kraft’s language – ‘I disagree with the Wells report’ or “I support Tom’ is very telling. He never says ‘Tom did not do it’ or ‘Tom is innocent.’ Also, Kraft’s anger was over the size of the penalty, not that they were penalized.

    6. If the two gentlemen that were released are innocent, the Patriots should want them to speak publicly.

    7. I asked a long time detective who has worked major cases in DC, ‘how do you tell when someone is innocent?’ He said, they lean forward, look you straight in the eye, and say adamantly ‘I did not do it.’ Still waiting for Tom to say that since Wells report was released.

    8. Lastly, if your argument involves other people outside the Patriots organization, like ‘the NFL should have warned the Patriots’, you are still admitting they are guilty.

  34. Twice convicted

    Same idiots who USED to say no superbowls since spy gate

    And what is the evidence that BrDy cheated

    None

    Absolutely none

    It is probable because I wanted it to be but I still couldn’t prove it

    That’s your evidence

    Please Brady sue the NFL

  35. Here we go with all the haters again. Don’t you idiots have lives? Guess I’ll have to remind you all once again.

    Haters gotta hate. You hate us cause you ain’t us.

    4X Super Bowl champs 2001, 2003, 2004, 2015. What has your sorryass team done lately?

  36. Kraft did not admit to anything. His case had no where to go because he is an owner. Players have more options.

    This is the perfect case for the NFLPA. It is interesting to read about just from that perspective. Patriot haters, pretend that Brady is Peyton Manning. Maybe then you can see the situation without your hate glasses on and realize how interesting this could be. It’s really not only about Brady at this point. It is about all players against the NFL.

  37. People should read the article by Daniel J Flynn, “10 reasons why an appeal overturns Tom Brady’s suspension”. It is well written and concise. It should take the average person with a sixth grade reading level about 10 minutes to read. It sheds some light on how the union might proceed.

    But even considering these 10 obvious and rational points, I believe the union is hoping that Mr. Goodell refuses to reverse the suspension. Then, as I stated above, things will get fascinating. However, if you are not interested in legal battles, you might find it all to be tedious and boring. Each to his own, I guess.

  38. Brady is arrogant, as the GOAT should be.

    He treats your inferior puny little thing you call a “team” with the arrogance and contempt that they deserve. I bet he laughs at them after every game.

    Can’t blame him. I would too. 🙂

  39. And Eli Manning, who OWNS Tom Brady, also disagrees

    “Owns”? Tee hee 🙂 Love how going back into ancient history is somehow relevant to today!

    World Champion Patriots 31 Giants 13 in 2015.

  40. guypatsfan says: May 26, 2015 7:53 AM

    Here we go with all the haters again. Don’t you idiots have lives? Guess I’ll have to remind you all once again.

    Haters gotta hate. You hate us cause you ain’t us.

    4X Super Bowl champs 2001, 2003, 2004, 2015. What has your sorryass team done lately?

    ————–
    Well I think it’s great to have Patriot Hater hee hawing on every topic about the World Champions.

    I love getting right up in their grill and running my mouth. 🙂 They prove again and again that they love dishing it out but they just can’t take it! What a bunch of wussies 🙂

  41. As one Patriots FAn to another…PLEASE STOP with the “Tee Hee’s”…
    They really do US no justice!!!

  42. Patriots fans have nothing to worry about. Kraft has not lost his mind, his will nor his gamesmanship. He just plays at a different level than the rest of us.
    Watch a Chess master at work. They make their opponents moves for them without them even knowing it until after they hear check-mate. That is what Mr. Kraft is doing here. Sit back and admire folks. Its a work of beauty. And what makes it so interesting to watch is that not only is Mr. Kraft planning a single opponents’ moves 3, 4 or 5 moves ahead, but he is doing it three dimensionally by playing multiple opponents simultaneously. Who is he playing you ask? Well at least Goodell, the rest of the NFL executives wrapped together, the other 31 NFL team owners wrapped together, the NFL legal team wrapped together, Wells and his team wrapped together, legions of the Goodell media PR machine, opposing team fans (primarily the Patriot haters), just to name a few. I may not be giving some listed above their due by stating they are “wrapped together”. To me individuals in those groups don’t warrant seperate mention because they don’t merit such a distinction.
    Of course there will also be some necessary SHORT TERM collatteral damage ie Patriots fans, supporters, believers, some members of the media and I include myself in this group of collateral damage. We will be shocked, disappointed, bewildered and betrayed because we think that Kraft vs all others game is over. However it is just the beginning of the end game. And what a masterful end it will be. This will really be an exhibition of gamesmanship. I think I can feel the early rumblings begin. And at its culmination, the Shield will surely have been protected and NFL football will be fun again.
    So who wins? We all do. Except Goodell. He can’t win. His intellectual dishonesty and his decision to abandon the integrity his father taught him will not allow him to recognize that the danger he needs to protect the shield from is himself. But the shield will be protected and we have Mr. Kraft to thank for that.

  43. Flynn is a Pats-homer who basically rehashed the Pats propaganda site. I’d trust Borges before him.

  44. magnumpimustache says: May 25, 2015 10:09 PM

    If your a QB (greatest of all time) and you set your footballs to 12.5 pounds before game And you hand the balls over to idiot refs who use improper gauges and then set the balls to 13.5 or greater because it’s not big deal to the refs Because their gauges are off.

    You would tell your ball boys to make sure the balls are set to 12.5 And you don’t care how it’s done.

    Let’s just say… the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

    The truth will be known very soon…and I mean VERY soon. I will not say how I know this but…I know. 🙂

  45. The ending of this saga is going to be so bizarre. It looks Brady’s team is ready to go at the NFL to prove that Brady was not generally aware of the balls being deflated below 12.5 PSI. However it’s really easy to open up the wells report and see that the balls probably weren’t even below 12.5 to start the game, that assumption is totally predicated on the false recollection of the referee. So obviously Tom didnt know about something that never occurred. But once they prove that, then what is the justification for the epically harsh punishment given to the team? It will be really interesting to see how it plays out. I’m guessing Brady gets zero games most likely as part of a deal worked out with Kraft, Pats fans will ask why the team received punishment for something that didn’t happen but they’ll be seen as biased and the patriot hater mob will continue to furlough their deductive reasoning skills.

  46. Is this the same CBA that says that the maximum punishment is $25,000?

    The CBA really doesn’t hold up under scrutiny now, does it?

  47. It is amazing how Goodell & the news media have all the haters eating out of their hands.

    They have you focused on one thing – the word CHEATER.

    No factual evidence – just the mere accusation that a successful teams’ winning record is completely based on CHEATING.

    After all, it plays into your ego and lifts you up from constantly being defeated by this winning team.

    Did you forget that when this plot by Goodell & the NFL first arose in 2007 that the CHEATING Team went on to have the ONLY 16 game PERFECT Record in NFL History.

    You did not learn from the AFCCG game where, after the footballs were APPROVED the second time, the PATRIOTS destroyed the Colts 28-0. Which was a PERFECT FACTUAL DEMONSTRATION that Rule 17 was NOT violated and that this was a Sting Operation that FAILED.

    You did not learn from the SuperBowl XLIX where BRADY broke NFL records in passing NFL approved Rule 17 footballs.

    Goodell & the News Media had two weeks to flood the TV & the airwaves with Slander, False Reporting & Jealous QB’s crying GUILTY in an attempt to undermine the PATRIOTS.

    Keep feeding from the hands of Goodell & the news media (Double Speak ) little Sheeple.

    Keep believing and OBEYING the Power over the air waves. Do not trust Logic, Reason & Scientific Analysis.
    You know what the truth is because you been told what the truth is – that is all that matters little Sheeple. Now move along.

  48. Only a man that is innocent would stand against being wrongly accused.

    Like Kraft huh?

    LOL

    Your owner admitted you cheated, not once but twice.

    Belicheat said he thinks Brady’s a liar.

    And we all know Belicheat’s a liar – the fumbling numbers dropping by half immediately upon deflating the balls wouldn’t be missed.

    The Patriots are serial cheaters.

    Everyone knows.

    You’ve got a little work to do there sir.

  49. “The patriots are serial cheaters… Everyone knows.”

    You’re referring to Spygate which in your cult of Pat-haters has somehow morphed into a series of infractions. Saying nothing of the fact that a Jets camera crew was tossed out of Foxboro for doing the same thing months before, it was one incident for which the team received a harsh punishment. Regarding the latest incident – I’d suggest doing a little more research. Have you noticed there is no argument against the patriots except “Cmon they cheated!” Thats because anyone with a brain has come out and said how ridiculous the Wells report is and how this is just a case of bashing success.

  50. World Champion Patriots >>>>>>>>>>> Your team.

    Aww don’t be sad. I just report the facts. Facts are facts and the truth is the truth. Not my fault you don’t like it.

    🙂

  51. You’re referring to Spygate which in your cult of Pat-haters has somehow morphed into a series of infractions. Saying nothing of the fact that a Jets camera crew was tossed out of Foxboro for doing the same thing months before, it was one incident for which the team received a harsh punishment
    —–
    Spygate of course was not cheating. By rule, taping is allowed if the information gained isn’t used in game. Bill did not use the information in game. Therefore there should not have been a problem. I mean… that IS what the rule said.

    Spygate always was, is and always will be the biggest farce in the history of professional football.

  52. The GOAT get your goat. Whine on losers. Spygate,Deflategate, tuck gate, eligible non- eligible gate, earphone gate, floodgate, fill in the blank gate losers. Doesn’t matter. We are the Champions. What have your team done lately?

  53. Fans of all loser teams eat it for time Super Bowl champions need I say more you don’t like us because you ain’t us that’s all I have to say losers

  54. Why do we keep feeding the brainless hater trolls? Their comments are as irrelevant as their teams are. Keep up the great work on looking as stupid as you possibly can. You all know who you are.

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