Brady ruling expected this week, litigation seen as inevitable

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A casual remark from Commissioner Roger Goodell to CNBC two weeks ago created widespread anticipation last week for a potential ruling on the appeal of Tom Brady’s four-game suspension.

As a new week begins, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the Brady camp expects a ruling this week.

Goodell has had post-hearing briefs from the league and the NFL Players Association for more than two weeks, and the coming week will be the last one before the launch of training camps.

The source describes the anticipated outcome as a “sham,” with litigation to promptly follow.

The question then becomes whether Brady and the NFLPA will seek a preliminary injunction aimed at allowing Brady to keep playing while the litigation proceeds. Which would make Brady available for the Thursday night opener against the Steelers, even if he eventually serves a suspension.

The challenge for Goodell will be selecting a suspension that compares favorably to the four-game suspension imposed via the league’s internal appeal processes on Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy nine days ago. If Brady’s suspension remains at four games, Goodell will absorb intense criticism from every angle and perspective for equating general, circumstantial knowledge of a vague cheating scandal to domestic violence. Dropping the suspension to two games will still result in criticism, but perhaps not as intense.

Getting rid of the suspension would make Patriots fans very happy, but it could unleash a firestorm from those who root for the other 31 teams, along with real questions about why a white franchise quarterback got relief from “The Enforcer” when so few other players can.

With no one ever criticizing Goodell when he imposes a suspension that someone else reduces or eliminates and with the pitchforks-and-torches crowd calling for Goodell’s job after the general public concluded he didn’t go far enough with Ray Rice, it will be a shock if the suspension goes from four games to no games.

Which means that #DeflateGate will continue to linger, for weeks and possibly months to come.

177 responses to “Brady ruling expected this week, litigation seen as inevitable

  1. This will all end with a neutral arbitrator..who will toss the entire thing…and FORMER JETS EXEC,, GOODELL,will have eat a SH** pie once again..(Vilma, Peterson, Rice).
    Why does this guy not “GET IT”…??

    BTW..I sure hope the NFL, is ready for the PATS to challenge the AIR PRESSURE,,,this year from opponents…

  2. However long it takes to clear Brady’s name from this sham of a “scandal”.
    Full exoneration,anything less is unacceptable.

  3. Goodell created this mess himself. He needed a “scandal” to deflect how poorly he handled the Ray Rice situation and he thought he found the perfect fit with #Deflategate.

    Unfortunately for Goodell it’s all backfiring terribly on him. He knows he is going to get crushed in Federal Court.

    He would be wise to vacate all penalties for both Brady and the Patriots and resign his position as Commissioner.

  4. I do not believe hashtags work on this platform. Then again, what do I know? Nothing, I mean you created the site and would know better than me.

  5. What a total embarrassment Goodell and the league. What’s next and who will be the next victim. If they want to frame you and allege wrongdoing against any team or player what are you supposed to do not defend yourself. Next time someone’s cleats will be too long and we will be going through this especially if it’s a Patriot. I’m disgusted.

  6. Brady’s suspension of 4 games for not cooperating & more than obviously lying to Goodell and everyone else is too lenient. Hardy’s suspension of 10 games plus most of last season for a 1st offense assault away from the game was unbelievably harsh & would have resulted in the same rebuke from a judge as the AP ruling. But Brady hasnt been on the Commissioners exempt list and has an extreamly short suspension given what he has done. The situations in the 2 cases have nothing in common, either from the act they committed, the type of rules that govern it, the penalties imposed or the likelyhood of getting changed by a judge. In other words, Goodell doesnt need to reduce Brady’s suspension and absolutely shouldnt. He deserves worse!

  7. All true points Florio. He should eliminate it because it will save face when it goes to court and makes Goodell look like a baffoon. It can be real simple too, Hardy didn’t have to speak and Brady went through 10+ hrs in front Goodell’s team. Say new info became available, Tom cooperated, and that’s why it’s zero.

    This would save Wells and Goodell a little face.

    Interesting take.

  8. Note to Goodell, this is your legacy now, I hope you’re proud of it.

    This could have easily been avoided by a simple ‘concern for underflated balls at the afc championship game” memo to owners and GM of the teams. But apparently you were not aware of the ravens and colts concern before the game, but your subordinates were……Hmmmm

    Personally,if the punishment wasgiven and nothing conclusive has changed, well then you should live with it & take the public, league scorn with it & federal trial. This should not be a popularity contest.

  9. …along with real questions about why a white franchise quarterback got relief from “The Enforcer” when so few other players can….

    Aw Mike, did you have to inject race here? Tom Brady is not accused of physical violence, possession of illegal substances or discharging a weapon in public.

    Getting off lightly would have to do with the nature of the offense NOT the person committing the offense.

  10. See, thats part of the problem. Goodell is far more concerned with how he and the league “appears” than what is “right and fair”. In no punishment should the folks doling out that punishment be concerned with public opinion. Right and wrong should be of paramount concern, not potential criticism.

  11. Troy Vincent is looking for a new job..maybe this time he will try to work with the lawyers and agents…how is it possible that he still works within the NFL??

  12. The NFL and Goodell have the worst public relation firm in history. Talk about failing at every turn. Atleast I’m assuming they actually pay someone for PR advice. If not “my god man” stop ….You are damaging the shield.

  13. “Which means that #DeflateGate will continue to linger, for weeks and possibly months to come.”

    And it never should have happened in the first place.

    Much ado about nothing.

  14. Bills fan here,
    As much as I hate the fact that the Pats are no more tan a 4-12 team they are the champs because of one man.
    Brady is simply the best of our generation, and a lb. or two of air either way doesn’t change that fact.

  15. I couldn’t disagree more…

    Goodell’s only concern is retaining his $44,000,000.00 per year job.

    The only possible avenue to keeping the job is complete exoneration of Brady. Sure, he takes some heat – but it doesn’t hurt the owner’s wallet as much as losing the lawsuit, which he surely will.

    Goodell will continue to do what he has always done: put self preservation above the integrity of the game…

    .

  16. The suspension of Tom Brady would be the greatest injustice in the history of the NFL. If this is what Commissioner Goodell decides, he will have to live with the consequences.
    Bring it on, Roger. In a career littered with glaring mistakes, this will be your biggest. Brady isn’t just another player. For a start, he is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. So he has the finances to afford the best attorneys in the world. (Not to mention that every true Patriot would donate money to help to preserve his integrity).

  17. There is no reason to change the suspension since it is going to court.

    Brady did not turn over his phone because Wells would have access to EVERY text message on it. This opens up the possibility of some personal texts being made public. AS a minimum, Wells , the NFL & their staffs would have access to them.

  18. I really doubt Roger ever thought himself to be in this situation with New England; one hand he may have used to shake Robert Kraft’s hand in agreement(that we will never know) and the other hand is fighting off Brady in a battle he knows would be lost in court. The squeaky clean ‘white’ guy with tons of money and impeccable character off of the field is tough to beat in court, especially in Massachusetts(where a federal case probably would be held). New England in a way have their hands already around Roger’s throat in this matter. If their was a deal made behind closed doors with Kraft and doesn’t honor it…, brother, watchout. If the league is brought to court by Brady(he has time, money, and clean conscience), Roger will lose. Simple, really. Except for Roger.

  19. If this goes to court, Brady will have to surrender his phone (and/or records) during the discovery process. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want that to happen.

  20. 2 games is probably the right thing to do, but I have no problem with keeping it at 4 either. I’m getting tired of the comparisons to the Hardy case. In the real world, domestic violence obviously is a much more serious issue, and the legal system handling of this is a joke. But in this workplace, a business based on solely athletic competition, cheating is absolutely just as bad. And let’s not forget Brady’s complete lack of cooperation with the investigation.

  21. Goodell’s only exit strategy is to declare the Wells report to be inconclusive and withhold judgement for at least 1 full season.

    During the year to come, Goodell must order new procedures for measuring game balls, including the testing of all offense balls during halftime and after games; ball security must be attended to as well.

    After the season and with hundreds of data points, it will be obvious that the AFCCG 2015 measurements conform to the observed trends, at which point, there will be no option but to dismiss all punishments against Brady and the Patriots.

    Not that I want to see the buffoon Goodell keep his job, but this is the only way he can.

  22. Greg Hardy’s actions while despicable were outside of the game. Brady’s went to the integrity of the game. I think 4 games is fair for cheating, lying and not cooperating with the investigation. Arrogance comes with a price.

  23. What’s amazing is the extent to which this is a farce or sham. None of Goodell’s choices at the point have anything to do with Brady at all. They all have to do with how Goodell is perceived….which is why he should never, ever have been the arbiter. I hope Brady announces a $500M defamation suit the minute Goodell releases his adjusted suspension.

  24. Brady cheated period. I don’t care if goodell lowers the suspension to an exhibition game just make it clear forever he cheated .

  25. Deflategate will last as long as the media can stretch it.
    Real fairness would of stripped them of the title.

  26. Brady’s suspension should stand at 4 games and the DeflateGate investigation expanded to include obtaining answers to the question of what exactly happened to all the souvenirs and “game balls” he inscribed, autographed and gave to Jastremski and McNally to (in Brady’s own words) “help them out”.

    If Brady wants to pursue legal action that is his decision to make. If that is the case, then everything connected to DeflateGate should be on the table as well.

    I know Patriot fans will give this post an immediate thumbs down. However, there is something to this considering these souvenirs were provided by Brady multiple times over a number of years by his own admission.

    The reality of legal action could, in the end, be worse than a 4 game suspension.

    Depending on if the souvenirs were indeed sold, how they were represented when sold and if the income was reported, Brady could be involved with both tax evasion and fraud.

    McNally, Jastremski , Brady and the Patriots need to address these questions since it was Brady himself who made the “help them out” statement.

  27. Goodell needs to fix this sham and witchhunt that his office unleashed on Tom Brady and the Patriots.

    He needs to come out and say that they have reevaluated the Wells and other reports and have determined that no balls were illegally deflated, and therefore, there are no penalties. Brady’s suspension is voided as well as the penalties assessed to the Patriots.

  28. The entire investigation and adjudication has been a sham from day one. Goodell does not have the integrity to reach a decision that is consistent with the facts of this case. As someone who adjudicates cases for a living, the Wells report does nothing to establish a preponderance of the evidence. The NFL offices on Park Avenue are the capitol of Hater Central.

  29. Oh no, Tom Brady will be even angrier! God have mercy on us all!

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t to the time, Tommy.

  30. I remain of the opinion that a deal was cut between Kraft and Goodell at the owners meeting: 1) The league finds that there is no definitive proof that the balls were deflated and reduces Brady’s suspension to one game (maybe two) for failing to turn over his cell phone records; and 2) Brady accepts, rather than appeals, the suspension so “he can put the matter behind him and focus on football.”

  31. Despite “Brady camp” indicating that they will take it to the courts unless the suspension is vacated, one game is likely the only/best option for league to “thread the needle” – and that would still likely fail.

    Possible reactions to various punishment options:
    4 games – going to court; lots of criticism of league; Kraft goes crazy (only question is publicly or privately) and likely gets renewed criticism in NE for standing down earlier

    3 games – see above

    2 games – going to court; strong reaction from both sides of fence; references to /original Ray Rice suspension. etc.

    1 game with proper qualifying language of what suspension is for – likely still going to court, but outside chance Kraft/BB/team/friends/family convince TB to put this behind him/them despite what they feel has been unjust outcome/witch hunt

    Large fine with significant amount going to charities and statement acknowledging difference of opinion – likely no court but not guaranteed; strong positive reaction by NE and many groups; likely strong negative reaction in majority of other 31 cities

    If penalty is reduced to anything less than two games, then an array of questions will also be raised about penalties imposed on team (similar to many of us still wondering why team/coach Bounty Gate penalties on /Saints were never reduced or acknowledged by league as an overreach).

    Wow – this has been mismanaged on so many levels…length, tone deafness, $ spent, misguided findings, bad science, leaks, lies, misinformation never corrected, purposely, lack of objectivity and hidden agenda, etc.

  32. Goodell should suspend himself for six months for letting this contrived controversy based on overactive imaginations get to this point. What a joke the NFL is.

  33. Goodell is just like the kid in class that finishes his test last and still gets an F. To compare the situation to the NFL. It’s like Goodell earns a consistent F, takes excessively long to complete his tests, then still makes himself the teacher, principal, and head of the school board. He then destroys an A+ students reputation by using a cheating accusation from one of the jealous students with no proof.

  34. The NFL, under Goodell’s leadership, is about to head to Federal Court because of a suspension to one of the league’s biggest stars because it is “more probable than not” that he was “generally aware” that game used footballs may or may not have been under deflated.

    Put aside any personal feelings you may have about Brady and/or the Patriots orginazation for a minute and let the above statement really sink in. Haha, when you step back and take a look at the whole deflate-gate situation it’s just comical. How could such a hugely successful corporation like the NFL be so poorly run?

  35. This ruling is about CHEATING in the game that’s under the mantra of the NFL. Although the domestic violence charge is agreatious its a personal action taken outside the game. A cheating charge in the game should carry much harsher penalties than a legal violation in your personal life, as far as FOOTBALL is concerned. If the average Joe does something to violate his employer, he’s losing his job, possibly not so for a personal breaking of the law.

  36. Where’s the TIME cover captioned “How far will Goodell go to perpetrate a farce?” TIME has evolved into quite a liberal rag. What’s next? Troy Vincent as “Man of the Year”?

  37. I have heard it all…. NOW Tom Brady has to apologize for being white! Let me try. Tom Brady is exceptional ! The best in the game, past, present and future……

    I’m not going to APOLOGIZE for that….

  38. Again, a total waste of time and money, the league came out looking silly…

    I remember attempting to change a clutch on my Yamaha GT80 when I was 10 years old….knee deep into this thing I’m thinking what the heck did I get myself into….

    My father saved my bacon….Goodell doesn’t have such a luxury….

    And can we stop with the “gate” garbage? It got old long ago…

  39. truthdispensary says:
    Jul 19, 2015 6:29 AM
    Brady’s suspension of 4 games for not cooperating & more than obviously lying to Goodell and everyone else is too lenient. Hardy’s suspension of 10 games plus most of last season for a 1st offense assault away from the game was unbelievably harsh & would have resulted in the same rebuke from a judge as the AP ruling. But Brady hasnt been on the Commissioners exempt list and has an extreamly short suspension given what he has done. The situations in the 2 cases have nothing in common, either from the act they committed, the type of rules that govern it, the penalties imposed or the likelyhood of getting changed by a judge. In other words, Goodell doesnt need to reduce Brady’s suspension and absolutely shouldnt. He deserves worse!

    He deserves worse for possibly maybe knowing something MAY have been going on.

    Ridiculous.

  40. 315judman says:
    Jul 19, 2015 6:41 AM
    TB does this, the game will be forever ruined…

    If Brady and his lawyers can get a neutral Judge to hear this case, it is inevitable that will ultimately lead to Goodell, Kensil and Vincent being gone as NFL executives.

    How does getting rid of Goodell, Kensil and Vincent ruin the game?

  41. Roger Goodell and his Well’s Report are the crime we should be talking about. I ask you fans if you could vote today on a NFL Commissioner would it be Roger Goodell? I doubt it very much. He is an arrogants, dishonest and unreliable person for such an important job. He reminds me of Senator Joe McCarthy who spend a good deal of his time in early 1950’s trying to ruin people lives pretending in his mind I would guess he was doing the right thing, but it would proven beyond a doubt he was a very sick man. Free Tom Brady and the Patriots for being so damn good and stop this crap as soon as possible. We need a new NFL Commissioner or this game will always be less than it is presently. I love the NFL but I hate seeing and reading how the rules, regulationx, reports of wrong doing, etc. etc. are being mismanaged and handled so with so much inconsistancy. Mr. Goodell has lost the confidence of the fans and that’s only thing we can be sure of. The game’s emphasis should be on the play and the players no scrums like Roger Goodell a person who obviously feels entitled to his position because of who is dad was. I hate it, and I hate the cloud he has cast over the NFL. Get rid of this attention seeking fraud, the sooner the better.

  42. when this case goes to discovery we will find out what the physics department at Columbia U said about he deflated footballs.

    We will also find out how many other reputable organizations told the nfl/Wells that the PSI of the Pats footballs were within the range predicted by the ideal gas law before the nfl/wells had to reach out to Exponent to get the answer that propagated thier witch hunt.

    When it is revealed the extent to which the league ignored the facts in an effort to bring down the Pats and make Goodell appear to be competent, the league will lose all creadibility and we may finally have the scandal that brings down Goodell.

  43. itsnotforme says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:10 AM

    And the ruling will be: Brady and the Patriots are cheaters again.
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    Only in the minds of the haters, pal.

    The Truth says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:24 AM

    Brady cheated period. I don’t care if goodell lowers the suspension to an exhibition game just make it clear forever he cheated .
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    Why do you call yourself The Truth, since there is none in your post?

    igotgamenj says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:29 AM

    Can’t wait till the whole AFC East buries Brady this year! Retirement will be here sooner then you know it Pats fans..
    #38
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    Dream on, dude. No other team in the AFC East can match up with the Patriots.

    Harve Gulch Cowboy says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:39 AM

    4 games for the cheating, lying, and trying to play the dumb role. Only an ardent supporter of the Patriots doesn’t get what happened.
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    Oh we get it all right. It’s nothing more than a witch hunt. Free Brady!

    canetic says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:43 AM

    Oh no, Tom Brady will be even angrier! God have mercy on us all!

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t to the time, Tommy.
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    He did no crime. Once again you prove that haters gotta hate.

    greymares says:
    Jul 19, 2015 9:00 AM

    This ruling is about CHEATING in the game that’s under the mantra of the NFL. Although the domestic violence charge is agreatious its a personal action taken outside the game. A cheating charge in the game should carry much harsher penalties than a legal violation in your personal life, as far as FOOTBALL is concerned. If the average Joe does something to violate his employer, he’s losing his job, possibly not so for a personal breaking of the law.
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    Trouble is that there was no cheating here, just lies and insinuations. Why can’t you haters see that?

  44. keiselsbeard says:
    Jul 19, 2015 9:08 AM
    If Brady plays in that 1st game, I hope one of our boys ends his career.

    Loser!

    Good thing for the Patriots Brady owns the Steelers!

  45. Brady will carry this taint around for the rest of his life. He disgraced himself.

    The serial cheating has to stop! The pats will be under a microscope from now on and we’ll see the results.

  46. What is Brady going to say in court that he did in fact cooperate with the investigation? He didn’t get suspended for deflating footballs he got suspended for not cooperating.

  47. Roger drops the suspension, the fine, and the taking of draft picks…

    Roger gets nominated for the 2015 Noble Peace Prize.

    Roger still gets fired…his only prize…

    Justice is served.

  48. And Brady needs to sue Chris Mortenson and ESPN for $1 billion each for perpetuating the lie. Sue them all Brady so no one makes fraudulent news reports ever again.

  49. Well, the important thing is the integrity of the game is safe from the rules of physics. Let’s get back to tampering, domestic abuse, and whippet loving owner’s sons lying to 911 operators.

  50. The Well’s report the piece of crap that it is did say that Tom Brady cooperated, so don’t what your talking about ((thesteelhurtin). You have to do better than that. He did not turn over his phone but it is public information that the Wells Report stated he did cooperate. So much hate and wishful thinking!

  51. keiselsbeard says:
    Jul 19, 2015 9:08 AM
    If Brady plays in that 1st game, I hope one of our boys ends his career.
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    Wow, you’re quite a class act. Steroid Curtain, your boys should be rescued 4 Super Bowls.

  52. Justice would mean that all punishments are rescinded.

    That said, as a fan of the sport I’d like to see how the Patriots look with Garoppolo at the helm for a couple games. Brady can’t play forever, and the Patriots need to see what they’ve got in this kid. I almost think a 2 game suspension might be a good thing for the team overall.

    Back to my first point, though, no cheating happened so there really should be no punishment either.

    The witch hunters in the league office – Kensil, etc. – should be fired.

  53. Brady is exactly what is wrong with the world today. “I didn’t get my way so I’m going to cry until someone listens.”. Be a man take your punishment and move on. Jesus there is a ton more evidence then what they had on Ben but Ben was a man and didn’t cry about. Ben ate a 4 game suspension for nothing. He is still the only NFL player to be suspended due to allegations.

  54. Anything more than zero games, Brady needs to file a civil defamation lawsuit against Kensil for $500 million, Vincent for $500 million and Goodell & Wells for $2 billion each. Make sure these dishonest POSs never do this ever again. How they still are collecting paychecks from NFL owners is beyond me.

  55. I’m so tired of this. Let Brady go to federal court and under oath say what he did or didn’t do. It cuts both ways. And don’t forget Palmeiro and Clemens on your way there Brady.

  56. Anyone who simply hates Brady and the Patriots doesn’t care about facts and wants the punishments upheld.

    Anyone truly interested in the truth and interested in punishing them if they’re guilty BUT exonerating them if they’re innocent would want the league to run tests all season long this year measuring air pressure of balls before games, during halftime and after games.

  57. Goodell will reduce the suspension. It will probably go to two games, but he could also shave just one game off for cooperation at the hearing and set it at three.

  58. Bobbyhanks maybe you should go read what the actual suspension says because it specifically states him not cooperating. Do you really think after the way he acted during the lock out goodell was going to give him an easy way out.

  59. pats4rings said:

    “Put aside any personal feelings you may have about Brady and/or the Patriots organization for a minute and let the above statement really sink in.”

    Well, there’s the problem. A lot of people are unwilling to put aside their personal feelings on this matter. They didn’t care one bit about what the Falcons or Browns did, they didn’t care when Minnesota and Carolina were tampering with the balls, they didn’t care when Jeff Blake talked about how he did the same thing and it was a common practice around the league, they didn’t care about reports of Colts ball boys having needles up their sleeves, they didn’t care about reports of long snappers having paper clips hidden to deflate balls, etc. The same people who were still bringing up spygate eight years later really didn’t care that Suh was able to play in a playoff game because he’d gotten a “clean slate” after just 32 games.

    It has nothing to do with the integrity of the game because somehow it only becomes “CHEATING!!!!11!!” when one team does it.

    And Goodell knows that.

  60. The NFLPA is making a mockery out of the NFL’s image. Everyone whines when these criminals and cheaters are allowed to play, but when NFL actually suspends players the union runs to court and challenges, and these pieces of crap get to play anyway. The NFLPA is actually hurting their own clients by making the NFL appear to be soft on crime to casual fans and outsiders.

  61. “Another important consideration identified in the Policy is ‘the extent to which the club and relevant individuals cooperated with the investigation.’ The Wells report identifies two significant failures in this respect. The first involves the refusal by the club’s attorneys to make Mr. McNally available for an additional interview, despite numerous requests by Mr. Wells and a cautionary note in writing of the club’s obligation to cooperate in the investigation. The second was the failure of Tom Brady to produce any electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information. Although we do not hold the club directly responsible for Mr. Brady’s refusal to cooperate, it remains significant that the quarterback of the team failed to cooperate fully with the investigation.”

  62. Come on Goodell, stop your BS delays and tell the Cheater he doesnt get to play!! Both Brady & Belicheat should have been withheld from the Super Bowl and both should be suspended for the entire 2015 season. Stop letting the Kraft / Brady PR agents fill the airwaves with this crap propoganda. Unless, you are helping draft these “articles” & part of a subsequent effort to help brush the Patriot’s cheating under the rug…again!

  63. From Troy Vincent’s letter to Tom Brady:

    “With respect to your particular involvement, the report established that there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the actions of the Patriots’ employees involved in the deflation of the footballs and that it was unlikely that their actions were done without your knowledge. Moreover, the report documents your failure to cooperate fully and candidly with the investigation, including by refusing to produce any relevant electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information, and by providing testimony that the report concludes was not plausible and contradicted by other evidence.

    “Your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football. The integrity of the game is of paramount importance to everyone in our league, and requires unshakable commitment to fairness and compliance with the playing rules. Each player, no matter how accomplished and otherwise respected, has an obligation to comply with the rules and must be held accountable for his actions when those rules are violated and the public’s confidence in the game is called into question.”

  64. Isn’t it is suspicious that the 200+ page Well’s report did not have anything that the ball boys or Brady actually said during those hours and days of interrogation? They seized the word ” deflator ” texted ONE time in May— off season– and went to town with that one word to convict Brady. Nowhere it says that Brady denied or the ball boys admitted to that act of deflating the balls. Of course Brady openly denied the crime attributed to him but the report never mentioned what Brady told them during the interrogation. When Brady brings this to court, hopefully we’ll see what Brady, Wells, Goodell and others said during the appeal hearing; if Goodell would oblige us of course.

  65. thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 9:41 AM
    Brady is exactly what is wrong with the world today. “I didn’t get my way so I’m going to cry until someone listens.”. Be a man take your punishment and move on. Jesus there is a ton more evidence then what they had on Ben but Ben was a man and didn’t cry about. Ben ate a 4 game suspension for nothing. He is still the only NFL player to be suspended due to allegations.
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    Oh yah, “allegations,” the fact that you support that scum bag makes you a total fraud in any conversation. And the history of your team is the dirtiest in the league. You have no voice on “integrity” issues when your a Steeler fan.

  66. @denverdude7 says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:29 AM

    Brady’s suspension should stand at 4 games and the DeflateGate investigation expanded to include obtaining answers to the question of what exactly happened to all the souvenirs and “game balls” he inscribed, autographed and gave to Jastremski and McNally to (in Brady’s own words) “help them out”.

    If Brady wants to pursue legal action that is his decision to make. If that is the case, then everything connected to DeflateGate should be on the table as well.

    I know Patriot fans will give this post an immediate thumbs down. However, there is something to this considering these souvenirs were provided by Brady multiple times over a number of years by his own admission.

    The reality of legal action could, in the end, be worse than a 4 game suspension.

    Depending on if the souvenirs were indeed sold, how they were represented when sold and if the income was reported, Brady could be involved with both tax evasion and fraud.

    McNally, Jastremski , Brady and the Patriots need to address these questions since it was Brady himself who made the “help them out” statement.

    Tax evasion and fraud? Really? LMAO!

  67. All those talking about the “truth” coming out are combing over every detail of Brady’s lawyers & agents propoganda statements in hopes of finding hope in thier arguments sufficient enough to cast enough doubt that would get him off, regardless of whether he did it or not. You arent interested in the “truth”. You could care less about that. To you, the truth is as trivial as the rules are to Brady.

  68. “Brady is exactly what is wrong with the world today. “I didn’t get my way so I’m going to cry until someone listens.”. Be a man take your punishment and move on.”

    Funny i thought standing up to bullies and luars like Goodell, Wells, Kensil and Grigson is being a man. Brady did nothing wrong and will win this case in court.

  69. Oh yah, “allegations,” the fact that you support that scum bag makes you a total fraud in any conversation. And the history of your team is the dirtiest in the league. You have no voice on “integrity” issues when your a Steeler fan.

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    You Pats fans are all about evidence. Go read the evidence on Ben. The first one there are texts about from her to her friends bragging that she hooked up with Ben. She broke up with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a relationship. Furthermore her own family said she was lying. The second the girl it actually happened to at first said there was no sexual assault but after being pressured by her friend she filed the report. She gave FIVE different stories to the police. FIVE! Georgia was after him hard and came up with nothing not a shred of evidence. Go actually read the police reports and everything and get back to me. No arrest yet still suspended.

  70. The NFL has admitted that the psi in the game balls had no impact on the AFCCG.

    The NFL itself allowed the second half (post its ball testing) to be played with the Colts balls having low psi levels with the Patriots outscoring the Colts 28-0.

    The NFL has no evidence against Brady. Despite the lack of evidence it has suspended him for four games for which he will lose four game checks.

    The NFL and their toadies in the media have smeared Brady’s good name.

    NFL executives have botched this story from day one and, in trying to cover up their own missteps, they have exacerbated the situation and boxed themselves into a big lie.

  71. Tom Brady will have a target on his back for what’s left of his soon-to-end career.
    His protected status is gone, and he’ll no longer be able to take a hit, get up and nod to an official, to draw a flag at will.
    Opposing DB’s will be drooling over the prospect of being the one to end his season.
    I don’t see him playing after this year, or finishing this one.

  72. “Tom Brady will have a target on his back for what’s left of his soon-to-end career.
    His protected status is gone, and he’ll no longer be able to take a hit, get up and nod to an official, to draw a flag at will.”

    Yeah he’s never been able to do that but keep making things up to drive your childish, emotional hate of Brady.

  73. I’m looking forward to this going to court. While many have speculated about the contents on Brady’s phone (which doesn’t make much sense b/c anything on Brady’s phone would have been revealed by searching the phones of the two equipment guys), the far more interesting angle will be what kind of communications will be revealed by searching through the records of league personnel.

    While Patriots haters and those influenced by false media reports are convinced that something shady took place with those footballs, the reality is that science has proven that the balls were never even tampered with.

    There is a huge story here but it has nothing to do with tampering with the psi of footballs. There are league personnel who are going to be exposed once this goes to court and their heads are going to roll.

  74. To all of you that say Tom should face discipluine for being a 2 time cheater. First he did not tape, it was the team, and taping was and still is legal… The guy did it front 30′ inside a no taping zone….not really a felony. And as for this felony, maybe Brady wanted the balls as low as possible, but never said to go or not to go under the level…but when 3 of the 4 Colts balls tested failed to meet the acceptable level, and then the refs stopped testing, all of this was moot as balls from both sides were failing.
    When this goes to court, any first year law student along with a first year physics student will make Goodell and Wells wish they had gone into this with indisputable facts from both sides, not conjecture.

  75. keiselsbeard says:
    Jul 19, 2015 9:08 AM

    If Brady plays in that 1st game, I hope one of our boys ends his career.

    How can ANY football fan wish for a player to be injured. Disgusting.

  76. Brady will end up with a sportmanship award after all this. He was the only one in this whole mess that actually cared that the footballs were inflated to the proper range. He even suggested giving the Refs a copy of the rule. We know in the past, neither the Refs nor NFL officials ever cared if the balls were over or under inflated. At least they never cared until it involved Brady and the Patriots, then it becomes a $5 million “investigation” for some reason.

  77. Best thing Goodell could possibly do is to uphold his own initial ruling and keep the four game suspension in effect. Otherwise he’ll just confirm what a dweeb he really is. ‘Patsies’ fans are the only ones that have a problem with the discipline, so let the cheaters and their fans eat cake.

  78. Goodell’s only play here is to go to zero games. His tenuous hold on being the final arbiter is slipping away and another defeat in court and I’m not sure if the owners let him hold onto that power, collectively bargained or not. Only way to put it to bed and show that he really can be impartial is a full exoneration.

  79. .
    @steelerhurtin

    Thank you for posting Troy Vincent’s letter announcing the suspension of Tom Brady. According to the CBA, the power to suspend rests solely with the Commissioner. This is violation of the CBA which allowed Goodell to delegate his authority to Vincent, which then allowed Goodell to act as judge and jury.

    If you disagree with the analysis, please cite the portion of the CBA which supports your position.
    .

  80. If the penalties are lowered because of the Ray Rice comparison, the Falcons and Browns should be next in line for THEIR reductions……

    Certainly, texting in plays is FAR less an offense than domestic violence, isn’t that the logic??

  81. 1. Brady will take this to court and win–based on the biased manner with which the decision came down, where no actual proof of wrongdoing was discovered. It’s an unprecedented punishment, arrived to unfairly, which holds no water. A layup for the NFLPA.

    2. As long as he’s QB of the NEP, the Patriots will be favored to win the AFC East every year. It doesn’t matter a lick what the rest of the teams in the division have added on either side of the ball–and unless Miami dusts off an in-his-prime Dan Marino, it never will.

    3. He’s quoted as saying “I’ll retire when I suck” so to everyone who’s wishing he would stop beating them, you have at least a few more years of losing, potentially maybe 5 or so if he maintains his fanatical approach to conditioning, diet, and film study.

    All of this false reporting and unfounded accusing only increases his desire, and that of Bill Belichick. Good for us in New England. Get ready for a few 51-17 victories this year.

  82. What do Patriots fans do when they’re not feverishly upvoting and downvoting in these Deflategate threads?

    Brady got off light with just four games, and everybody outside of New England knows it. If it’s reduced by even one game, it will be a huge black eye for the integrity of the game.

  83. Pats can fill their footballs with the tears of their fans. What a bunch of whining babies. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

  84. Dear Brady haters:

    Greg Hardy is an employee of the NFL. When he beat up his girlfriend, he too was messing with the integrity of the NFL’s image. Integrity is NOT just about being “caught cheating”. It also has to do with PUBLIC IMAGE. Since Hardy’s image was damaged so was the NFL’s. So yes, beating up your girlfriend IS worse for the integrity of the NFL then maybe, possibly letting a little air out of the footballs and he does deserve a worse punishment then Brady. If you can’t see that then you are blinded by your biased hatred for the Pats and for Brady.

  85. So pats fans, read the article in the globe today. Apparently all Brady is going to challenge is the process. Not the wells report or evidence in any way. Something an innocent man would do right?

    Another article confirms it’s not just “haters” who support the punishment. In an ESPN poll people support Goodell’s punishment by a 2-1 margin, and over 50% believe Brady was involved.

    70% of Today show viewers support vacating the superbowl championship

  86. You tried to link fans anger at Ray Rice’s initial suspension to Brady’s, if its reduced to 0 games? You cannot link a man beating the snot out of his girl on tape. To a man who could have let air out of a ball, was never found to, and did not turn his phone over, which by law he does not have to.

  87. Complete and total BAG JOB from day 1.

    Petty jealousy from the Colts and a bunch of absolute fools in the front office has turned the biggest NON-STORY in the history of the NFL into a poo slinging contest for the whole nation to see. Embarrassing.

  88. there is a long hx of cheating in football.
    heck…the first forward pass was consider cheating…
    what I’m saying is its not cheating till you get caught…Tom got caught!!
    now he needs to get punished and the NFL officials need to resume their control of game balls.

  89. thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 10:20 AM
    Oh yah, “allegations,” the fact that you support that scum bag makes you a total fraud in any conversation. And the history of your team is the dirtiest in the league. You have no voice on “integrity” issues when your a Steeler fan.

    —————-
    You Pats fans are all about evidence. Go read the evidence on Ben. The first one there are texts about from her to her friends bragging that she hooked up with Ben. She broke up with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a relationship. Furthermore her own family said she was lying. The second the girl it actually happened to at first said there was no sexual assault but after being pressured by her friend she filed the report. She gave FIVE different stories to the police. FIVE! Georgia was after him hard and came up with nothing not a shred of evidence. Go actually read the police reports and everything and get back to me. No arrest yet still suspended.
    —————
    Ahhhh, if that were the only scandal. What’s your excuse for the Lake Tahoe incident? How did some charlatan try to sour his good name in that one. Fraud, shhhhhhhhh you’re only making yourself look more pathetic.

  90. BB TB and the Pats cheat… period…

    but like all the other NFL players, they will wiggle until they get out of it

    I wish there was real responsibility and discipline in the NFL

  91. Honestly, I’m getting to a point where I don’t even care anymore. Just wrap this up already. If he sits, fine. I used to laugh at the “No Championships Since SpyGate” crowd, for a multitude of reasons, most of which are just about idiots wishing they had something to discredit the Patriots’ success. I mean, anyone with a brain that actually checks their facts knows that SpyGate occurred and wasn’t even illegal until 2006, which is AFTER the Pats won three, if you’re scoring at home. The Tuck Rule? Yeah, that one sucks for Raiders fans, I get that, but it was the proper call at the time according to the rules. The rule was revisited and changed, that’s all you can do. Pats caught a break there, but what are you gonna do? The alleged Rams walkthrough taping was later proven to be false, and the paper that reported it retracted the story and apologized. “The Brady Rule” of not hitting a QB’s knees is actually the “Carson Palmer Rule”, who was injured in I believe ’05 or ’06, several years before Brady’s injury in ’08.

    The haters act like they have this laundry list of infractions, and most of them are made up in their head. I always used to
    Laugh and say, “OK, what ridiculous scandal will they come up with when they win another one?” And here it is. Air pressure. Air pressure in a football. And we’ve seen it stretched to absurd lengths to try to convince us that it created this insurmountable competitive advantage. “Oh, their fumble rates are down”, “oh, Brady can throw it better and the receivers can catch it better!” WHAT??? Listen to yourselves, seriously. I’m embarrassed for you. Talk about reaching. I’m growing to believe that this country is populated by morons, due to this, and just observing life in general. So you know what? Say what you want, yell and scream about asterisks. I know dumb people when I see them, and I’m sorry, I completely discredit any opinions you may hold. The record books show the real story, so if some dolt from a flyover wants to cry foul, have fun. I already lived the four Super Bowl wins, no one can take that from me, and I don’t play for the team, so
    I have no legacy. Advantage: me. Peace out, suckers.

  92. Remember when everyone jumped all over the Steelers players for not signing the CBA because it gave Goodell too much power. Do I think Brady should be suspended yes. Do I think goodell has too much power yes. I feel 4 games is too much. I wonder if the Pats just accepting their punishment will affect Bradys case in court?

  93. Brady got off light with just four games, and everybody outside of New England knows it. If it’s reduced by even one game, it will be a huge black eye for the integrity of the game.

    Actually “plenty of people” out NE and within the league feel the penalty was to harsh. Especially since there was no proof (per the wells report)

  94. “If this goes to court Brady will surrender his phone records and he’ll be done.” Ummmm, the NFLPA cannot force you to take legal action on your behalf. So…… If they are saying this will go to court if any suspension is held up. Basic logic would be that Brady has given them the OK, and knows his phone will be checked. Seems to me he has zero to hide.

  95. Further review of NE Cheaters repeated scandals, results in Brady suspension for entire year and forfeiture of four tainted Superbowl victories (SIC). Additional, the Cheaters will be on probation for the next 5 years, and therefore playoffs ineligible.

    But the three ring circus commonly known as the NFL, and it’s leader Bozo the red haired clown, will concede as usual. Proving once again, that it pays to cheat in the NFL.

  96. Oh yah, “allegations,” the fact that you support that scum bag makes you a total fraud in any conversation. And the history of your team is the dirtiest in the league. You have no voice on “integrity” issues when your a Steeler fan.

    —————-
    You Pats fans are all about evidence. Go read the evidence on Ben. The first one there are texts about from her to her friends bragging that she hooked up with Ben. She broke up with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a relationship. Furthermore her own family said she was lying. The second the girl it actually happened to at first said there was no sexual assault but after being pressured by her friend she filed the report. She gave FIVE different stories to the police. FIVE! Georgia was after him hard and came up with nothing not a shred of evidence. Go actually read the police reports and everything and get back to me. No arrest yet still suspended.
    —————
    Ahhhh, if that were the only scandal. What’s your excuse for the Lake Tahoe incident? How did some charlatan try to sour his good name in that one. Fraud, shhhhhhhhh you’re only making yourself look more pathetic.

    ——————–
    Please reread what I wrote the first one would be Tahoe where she bragged to her friends and they showed the texts. She broke with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a “relationship”. Also when your own family comes out and straight calls you a liar its saying something. She thought Ben wanted a relationship when Ben was just looking for a piece at a golfing event. There are a lot of other holes in her story as well.

  97. fearthehoody says:
    Jul 19, 2015 11:24 AM
    “If this goes to court Brady will surrender his phone records and he’ll be done.” Ummmm, the NFLPA cannot force you to take legal action on your behalf. So…… If they are saying this will go to court if any suspension is held up. Basic logic would be that Brady has given them the OK, and knows his phone will be checked. Seems to me he has zero to hide.

    ————-
    If what I read is correct there will be no new evidence in this litigation. It is based on appealling the initial suspension and the only part of the phone that has to do with the suspension is him not supplying it. The case will be on the suspension and suspension only. Now if he sues the NFL that’s a whole different story but supplying the phone could show he did in fact know who McNally was when he denied knowing him and that in fact would prove the NFLs case of him not cooperating. The cooperation thing is what is going to get him. They can question the report all they want but its going to be hard to show he cooperated and didn’t lie.

  98. thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 11:51 AM
    Oh yah, “allegations,” the fact that you support that scum bag makes you a total fraud in any conversation. And the history of your team is the dirtiest in the league. You have no voice on “integrity” issues when your a Steeler fan.

    —————-
    You Pats fans are all about evidence. Go read the evidence on Ben. The first one there are texts about from her to her friends bragging that she hooked up with Ben. She broke up with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a relationship. Furthermore her own family said she was lying. The second the girl it actually happened to at first said there was no sexual assault but after being pressured by her friend she filed the report. She gave FIVE different stories to the police. FIVE! Georgia was after him hard and came up with nothing not a shred of evidence. Go actually read the police reports and everything and get back to me. No arrest yet still suspended.
    —————
    Ahhhh, if that were the only scandal. What’s your excuse for the Lake Tahoe incident? How did some charlatan try to sour his good name in that one. Fraud, shhhhhhhhh you’re only making yourself look more pathetic.

    ——————–
    Please reread what I wrote the first one would be Tahoe where she bragged to her friends and they showed the texts. She broke with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a “relationship”. Also when your own family comes out and straight calls you a liar its saying something. She thought Ben wanted a relationship when Ben was just looking for a piece at a golfing event. There are a lot of other holes in her story as well.
    —————–
    He must really be just unlucky, always in the wrong place at the wrong time. I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

  99. As for the Today Show and ESPN polls showing most people think the Patriots shouldn’t keep their title…or whatever,
    of course that makes sense.
    When you tell your loyal viewers that the Patriots cheated, and you falsely state the Pats balls were way under and the Colts balls were just fine,
    of course you are going to get poll results
    heavily against the Patriots.
    Might as well put up a Fox poll asking who their viewers like better; Paul Ryan or Saul Alinsky.

    Goodell and his weasel partners know that there
    is no downside to going after the Patriots, only an upside.
    When it gets tossed out in court, the smug NFL execs will say, “Hey, at least we tried to stop those cheating Patriots”.
    Goodell knows it’s 31 against 1, and he wants to be on the loudest side of the argument.

  100. Goodell has one out here, I’m just not sure if he’s smart enough to take it.

    The ‘get out of jail card’ looks like this.

    1. Push the suspended games, the fines, and draft picks to 2016.
    2. Use 2015 to study pressure of game balls league wide in cold games.

    If balls in similarly cold weather games are the same as the Patriots balls, throw Wells under the bus and remove all punishments.

    If the balls in similarly cold weather games are not close to the balls in the Patriots games the punishments apply in full.

  101. nepatriot1 says:
    Jul 19, 2015 12:08 PM
    thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 11:51 AM
    Oh yah, “allegations,” the fact that you support that scum bag makes you a total fraud in any conversation. And the history of your team is the dirtiest in the league. You have no voice on “integrity” issues when your a Steeler fan.

    —————-
    You Pats fans are all about evidence. Go read the evidence on Ben. The first one there are texts about from her to her friends bragging that she hooked up with Ben. She broke up with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a relationship. Furthermore her own family said she was lying. The second the girl it actually happened to at first said there was no sexual assault but after being pressured by her friend she filed the report. She gave FIVE different stories to the police. FIVE! Georgia was after him hard and came up with nothing not a shred of evidence. Go actually read the police reports and everything and get back to me. No arrest yet still suspended.
    —————
    Ahhhh, if that were the only scandal. What’s your excuse for the Lake Tahoe incident? How did some charlatan try to sour his good name in that one. Fraud, shhhhhhhhh you’re only making yourself look more pathetic.

    ——————–
    Please reread what I wrote the first one would be Tahoe where she bragged to her friends and they showed the texts. She broke with her boyfriend because her and Ben were in a “relationship”. Also when your own family comes out and straight calls you a liar its saying something. She thought Ben wanted a relationship when Ben was just looking for a piece at a golfing event. There are a lot of other holes in her story as well.
    —————–
    He must really be just unlucky, always in the wrong place at the wrong time. I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

    ——————–
    You obviously haven’t gone and read the ACTUAL facts in the case. Gee I wonder why in Georgia her friend pushed her into saying it was a sexual assualt? It couldn’t have been because she knew an allegation was already out there and wanted to cash in on it. Nobody would ever do a thing like that. Why follow did she follow him to 3 different bars. Why did she go into the bathroom with him? Why did she give the cops five different stories? Let’s go to Tahoe now. Why did she break up with her boyfriend (who was deployed) citing a relationship with Ben? Why did she tell her family about a relationship with Ben? Why did she tell her friends she was the future Mrs. Ben Roethlisberger? Why did she never go to the police? Come on was Ben an idiot playboy jag off he sure was but that doesn’t call for a suspension. No evidence, no arrests, only questioned once on his own accord, and yet got a 6 game reduced to 4 games suspension. If anyone should have taken the NFL to court it was Ben. They had zero grounds to suspend him. If you don’t see that then you are just blind. You Pats fans are hilarious. If you think they had enough evidence to suspend Ben then there is no way you can argue with the Brady suspension. Bottom line the rest of the players should have listened to the Steelers and not signed the CBA because it gave Goodell too much power.

  102. Let’s talk about members of the Browns relaying information to the sideline via text messages during regular-season games. Were they relaying defensive signals? Were they informing the coaching staff about things they couldn’t see from ground level?

    Where is the outrage there? Oh wait, I understand … it had nothing to do with the big bad Patriots that have been dominating the league for the past 15 years. Nobody cares about the Browns, so the media doesn’t blow it up into a circus

    Let’s talk about the Falcons pumping in fake crowd noise. This was done for the sole purpose of making it nearly impossible for opposing quarterbacks to communicate with the rest of their offensive players. How much miscommunication and how many botched plays did that result in for Falcons opponents?

    Where is the outrage there? Oh wait, I understand … it had nothing to do with the big bad Patriots that have been dominating the league for the past 15 years. Nobody cares about the Falcons, so the media doesn’t blow it up into a circus.

    But Tom Brady who has been torturing the rest of the league for the past 15 years may or may not have possibly or allegedly known or not known about footballs that may or may not have been at the correct pressure. And this becomes what is probably the most dominant news story in the history of sports.

    See a pattern here?

  103. Reading the comments some pats/brady supporters come of as funny in so many ways. One of which is disdain of Goodell as if he is somehow the problem.

    It is a fair bet if someone else was in Goodell’s place a punishment would have been handed out that would have been more fitting. Such as not playing in the SB, 1 year for Brady and Billacheat.

  104. Funny how even ray rice had more football players voice public support than Tom Brady has.

    Nobody likes a cheater. Especially one that can’t even man up and admit to it. Especially one that refuses to comply with an investigation.

    The 4 game suspension will be upheld – the ensuing litigation will further tarnish past successes.

  105. “… along with real questions about why a white franchise quarterback got relief from “The Enforcer” when so few other players can.”

    Why do you have to make this about race?

    The statement should be: Getting rid of the suspension would be the right thing to do since there was no wrong-doing ever proven.

    That way, the other 31 teams will know that, if one of their players is wrongfully thrown to the wolves, there is hope that they will receive justice, too.

  106. Florio says:

    With no one ever criticizing Goodell when he imposes a suspension that someone else reduces or eliminates…….

    ____________________________

    You’ve made this statement often Mike. First of all, it’s inaccurate. But more importantly, I think its demeaning to a large number of your readers who have expressed exactly that criticism. Are you suggesting that just because they are not journalists, their opinions don’t matter?

  107. This was a done deal 2 months ago. The moment Kraft accepted the NFL’s punishment, it was clear that Kraft and Goodell (who are also close friends) made an arrangement: The Pats will pay all the fines and lose drafts picks if Brady is exonerated. The rest of this is just to keep the NFL is the news during a slow sports month.

    The NFL will lose in open court if Brady takes them there because they will have to prove definitively that Brady knew about ball deflation in that one particular game, which is very hard to prove based on the released evidence. If the NFL loses in court and gets embarrassed, Goodell knows he’ll be fired soon after. This isn’t a big enough infraction to risk a $40m+ a year job over.

  108. patsstinkoftaint says:
    Jul 19, 2015 11:05 AM
    If the penalties are lowered because of the Ray Rice comparison, the Falcons and Browns should be next in line for THEIR reductions……

    Certainly, texting in plays is FAR less an offense than domestic violence, isn’t that the logic??

    Yes, IMO, texting in plays is less of an offense than domestic violence.

    The Browns lost no draft picks for that texting offense. The GM who did the texting, who happens to stink at his job, was suspended four games and I believe fined 250k. No draft picks lost, no players suspended. Does anyone really care, even among Browns fans, that the GM was suspended? That penalty does not even register as a slap on the wrist.

    The Falcons lost a 5th round draft pick and were fined 350k for their cheating. No players suspended. A slap on the wrist.

    The Pats and their fan base would welcome having their penalty reduced to just the loss of a 5th round draft pick and a 350k fine even though the Pats, their players and their equipment people are guilty of nothing. Well, guilty of nothing is not entirely true. The fact is that the Pats are guilty of having the Greatest Head Coach of All-Time in Bill Belichick, having the Greatest QB of All-Time in Tom Brady, and being the Greatest NFL Dynasty of All-Time.

  109. Who selects the pictures for your blog Florio?
    It looks as if Goodell is saying that he still has room to squeeze Brady before he’s done with him.

  110. Steroidcurtain, save your keystrokes. Just like you can’t acknowledge actual science and data and an entire report saying Brady didn’t tamper with the balls, and Brady is guilty in your eyes no matter what evidence is presented to you, in my eyes Rothlisburger is a womanizing scum bag with multiple sex crime allegations and your team “won” 4 Super Bowls illegally on roids and your cheating coach interfered with game play by trying to trip Jacoby Jones, and lastly Cower admitted to taping defensive signals from the 1st row of the bleachers.

  111. Fanofpft Your comment reflects your insane notion that the Patriots or Tom Brady did something wrong, which all evidence available proves they did not, so whose funny? Even if Brady did let air out of footballs you actually think he should be banned from the Superbowl and handed a 1 year suspension along with Belichick? Your judgment is so out of line, it’s hard to imagine you really believe this is fair. You don’t like football you just want your team to win. No Patriot fan or true NFL fan would ever see the logic in your summary. Your team is not going to beat any worthy NFL team by trying to eliminate their best players this way. It would best to just put a great team on the field. By the way it’s almost a certainty that any other worthy Commissioner would have dropped the suit by now because the Well’s Report is a seething abortion and most of us fans no that by now. How come you don’t? You hate is blinding you to any sense of true justice. Hell I want my team to win when the other team has their best players because otherwise you just beat a wounded team and it’s a hollow victory, but you probably ok with that. Learn from your mistakes!

  112. For the record, how many games suspension did the players from the bounty scandal serve?

    Exactly. the suspensions were vacated. Were all of those guys white?

    Let’s leave race out of this nonsense.

  113. Believe me, the owners don’t want Brady to miss the opener, nor do they want Goodell to look like himself. The best way for this to happen is with an injunction. If Brady doesn’t seek one, they’ll have to bring Tag in to clean up the mess again.

  114. LOL.
    Pat fans, priceless.
    Thanks for hilarious comments where you feel like you’re making sense in arguments.
    Love y’all.
    Made my day. :*

  115. If I were a lawyer for Brady or the Patriots, I would request a stay of judgement until after the season. The NFL has intentionally let this drag on so long, it does not give Brady or the Patriots time to deal with any potential judicial outcome.

    I would strongly advocate not rewarding Goodell for his egregious misbehavior in not dealing with this issue in a fast and timely manner.

  116. too many pidgeons on this site whose opinions change based on the authors narrative. Brady and the Pat’s are CHEATERS!

  117. Regarding TB’s lack of cooperation and deflategate. the NFL was basing their findings on barely provable at best allegations and they are punishing for that? This whole thing is a joke

  118. deflatedfootballs says:
    Jul 19, 2015 7:41 AM
    I’m so tired of this deflategate.. I not even a Patriots fan.. And I just want to see Tom Brady play..
    —————–
    You’re so tired of it that your screen name is referenced to it.
    Patsies*

  119. he cover of TIME? REALLY??? I thought we were over this farce? Who cares that Goodell won’t exonerate Tom? The federal courts will. This matters to me a lot more than anything else because it is about INTEGRITY ,not sports. Anybody bad mouths my Patriots in earshot gets me in their face. Like it or not. Yes. It is VERY personal. Do not call Tom a cheater in my earshot please or we will have problems. Take that to the bank.
    Brady will most likely beat Goodell aka Badell aka The Clown aka Captain Kangaroo in court and the Patriots will re-write the CBA rule book as it is a mess as this past year has proven for the dysfuncional gang of fools aka the NFL. . I think the upcoming ruling by Goodell is a total sham with an outcome that will not exonerate TB12. A federal injunction will keep Tom on the field, not the commissioner, while this defamation situation gets heard in federal court. I believe Goodell made up his mind 6 months ago NOT to reduce the suspensions.
    But he upcoming Summary Judgements for Tom Brady in federal court are estimated to be way North of $250 Million according to Donald Trump not counting what Brady’s wife will get for the cost this defamation has done to her multi-billion dollar fashion brand., Hell hath no fury like a Brazillian Super model scorned!! Look out NFL! . Goodell will be mowing the Brady’s lawn and living in a box.
    ATTN Friends: Please do not say anything bad about my team The New England PAtriots or Tom Brady in my presence or we will have problems. Tom’s integrity is 100% intact in the eyes of Patriot Nation and anything to the contrary is high treason and fighting words to this Bostonite Irishman. This is as personal as it gets. DEFAMATION IS A CRIME. Tom Brady is 100% innocent.
    Unfortunately, expect to see this soap opera a prime news story in the nation for the next 6 months at least nationally as it unravels because it is far from over and the federal courts are like glaciers, speed-wise. The whole thing is about jealousy. Ridiculous and unjustified. Totally.And Tom is mad as hell. Watch what happens in 2015-2016. He now has a tiger in his tank. Revenge Ball cometh, and right soon. We got Superbowl 50. The Drive for 5 is coming and good luck playing against New England everybody. TB12’s best motivation is revenge.

  120. On cooperation: The CBA says players must cooperate with investigations. Brady sat with Wells for 8 hours and answered every question. That is cooperating. He did not turn over personal communication, which is his constitutional right. If Wells wanted this information he would have needed a subpoena. Wells did not seek a subpoena. Goodell has better walk very softly around the noncooperation issue lest it become a civil rights issue.

  121. IF HE SUES WE KNOW HE DID SOMETHING
    WRONG. What ever the medicine just take like
    a man and move on like all the other ones that have been suspended or fined. We know the player Assn. does not like to honor contracts, but was hoping Brady was of a higher caliber than the leaders of the Players Assn.

    Jim

  122. The Pats have cheated before so why is everyone
    defending them. Are you CHEATER, also.

    Jim

  123. Congrats to Tom Brady:
    This is article number 100 with 200 plus responses.
    SB champs usually have a generally positive spin to most of their offseason conversations thru the media,but not the Pats of 2014.

    Fire Goodell, add to TBs 4 game suspension and make
    Belichik sit the whole year I say.
    None of this will happen though and Goodell will approach $50 million in salary, the Golden Boy will be in uniform vs. Pitt (whew!!!)
    and Belichik and Ernie Adams have already cooked up the next scheme to tilt the field in Foxboro every home game.

    One giant black eye for Pats/Brady/Belichik/NFL/ and Roger

    But cheap entertainment for NFL fans out there. You can’t make this stuff up. Again congrats to you Tommy, like Goodell your public perception is and has been toast for awhile now.

  124. gibbo3884 says:
    Jul 19, 2015 2:48 PM
    *****************************************************
    WHAT??? Don’t slam your Patriots?? REALLY? So what you’re saying is that when the investigation started, everyone that ended up going “Tit’s Up” like the owner who said “you know what, we’re not going to fight the penalties, WE WILL ACCEPT THE COMMISSIONER’S PENALTIES !” When Coach Belichick said, “you know what, TB demanded his balls be maintained a certain way, i believe he knew about the deflating of the footballs, let’s back away from this thing..”, When the “Deflator” and Jastrimski were suddenly “suspended without pay” by the Patriots, that meant what exactly that they were innocent of any wrongdoing?? That’s not how things work but if you’re a “Patriot Fan” i guess anything goes. Speaking of how “innocent men behave” do we really have to analyze ‘why” TB wouldn’t cooperate with authorities by turning over his cellphone which is the reason he was ultimately suspended 4 games?? No strike that, he was asked “NOT” to turn over his cellphone to the authorities “ONLY” to his attorney that could decide “what” could be conveyed and not the entire phone. DUDE !! Wake Up !! Patriot fans that are this hysterical over this event are completely insane.

  125. thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 1:42 PM
    The Steelers broke no rules and steroids started in the 60s in the NFL. The Oline used roids as did every other Oline in the league.
    —————————-
    Keep telling yourself that******

  126. nepatriot1 says:
    Jul 19, 2015 5:39 PM
    thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 1:42 PM
    The Steelers broke no rules and steroids started in the 60s in the NFL. The Oline used roids as did every other Oline in the league.
    —————————-
    Fran Tarkenton doesn’t agree with you, neither does Terry Bradshaw who admitted it.

  127. McNally wasn’t the equipment manager.
    He’s a guy who worked only game days 8 to 10 days a year.
    Everybody knew him only as Bird. Brady thought he was Bert.
    Brady signed items for team employees like any other QB in the league when asked, especially if they are low paid locker room guys.
    Wells made a huge deal out of this because he had nothing else.

    The one thing we know about McNally is that he was angry back at Brady for bringing out overinflated footballs and then getting cussed at…through Yaz, the guy that Brady did have contact with.
    Brady asked that the refs get a copy of the football rules so that it doesn’t happen again.
    There is zero evidence that Brady wanted footballs below regulation.
    If there were something there, it would have gone through the Yaz guy, not McNally.
    Wells found nothing.

    Additionally, McNally offered to do a phone interview with Wells as a follow-up and Wells refused the offer.

  128. Regardless of what Goodell rules, he’s done a terrific job of taking an issue that, by all accounts, hasn’t been an issue at all. It appears that the balls haven’t been routinely tested either before games or during games. Control of the balls were handed over to the teams so that the balls can be most suitable for the QBs. In fact, the balls have never been tested after the initial test before the game.

    The only science presented at the “hearing” was that the balls were within the range they should have been, based on the temperatures they were initially tested in and the fact that the balls were tested immediately after bringing them back inside. I suspect that Goodell has consulted other experts and the league’s owners regarding this.

    Any fine or punishment needs to be met with a consistent standard of testing before, during and after all games. Plus, all balls should be subject to random testing during the games. And I have no doubt that during hot weather and cold weather they will find that all teams have “cheated!” For the dense heads, that means that all teams will have balls that don’t test between the required 12.5 and 13.5 PSI requirements. It will be interesting to find out whether Goodell really wants to go there. Logic would dictate that Goodell would then have to suspend all QBs for a like period of time and to fine them all accordingly.

  129. FYI – IF this goes to court, Brady LOSES and will be suspended all 4 games. IF it happens in Week 14-17, Brady will miss the playoffs.

    The FACT is, the NFLPA gave Goodell this power in the last CBA.

    The Government can not and will not turn over this punishment, not because of right/wrong, but because the players agreed to abide by the CBA.

    SO, good luck Pats fans. Be careful wishing for Tom to play Week 1. He may be gone for the playoffs.

  130. Would someone like to quote the clause and page # in the CBA where it says a player must “co-operate” in an investigation about his actions? I’ve read it 15 times and can’t find it.

  131. “IF this goes to court, Brady LOSES ” and what numbers will show up in the Powerball tomorrow?

    “The FACT is, the NFLPA gave Goodell this power in the last CBA.” Nope, Brady is being suspended for something that is not an offense, let alone a suspendable one

    “The Government can not and will not turn over this punishment, not because of right/wrong, but because the players agreed to abide by the CBA.” _They did it before with Vilma, they’ll do it now

    “Be careful wishing for Tom to play Week 1. He may be gone for the playoffs.” – We have truth and justice on our side, the haters have inneundo, misstatement and wild assumptions on their’s

  132. nickster the Courts will be asked to see if the NFL followed the CBA. There are several grounds to contest them on. This will be heard in a Federal court as Florio states.

    Also the courts go with existing punishment at worse. There is nothing on the books for players having knowledge of deflation, Favre got a $50k fine for not cooperating. …and don’t count on him getting anything.

  133. jjmurphy1127d says:
    Jul 19, 2015 8:45 AM

    If penalty is reduced to anything less than two games, then an array of questions will also be raised about penalties imposed on team (similar to many of us still wondering why team/coach Bounty Gate penalties on /Saints were never reduced or acknowledged by league as an overreach).

    —————————

    Just wanted to address this. The Saints coaches’ punishments were not reduced because it was found out that the bounty program DID exist and that it was started by the coaching staff not the players. The evidence was found on team servers not private ones. It was a team infraction.

    In the Patriots situation, as much as the Wells report has gotten trashed and rightfully so, both Wells and the league exonerated Belichick and Kraft of any knowledge and wrongdoing. Yet the NFL still punished them? Sorry, but that makes no sense at all. How do you exonerate someone of wrongdoing and still punish them? And if Brady gets exonerated, and the league has already exonerated Belichick and Kraft, then how the hell can you take away $1 million of Kraft’s money and 2 draft picks including a 1st round pick? Anybody who thinks this is right or fair is just not thinking straight.

  134. How about this….

    Goodell admits that the NFL screwed up, there is no evidence that Brady or the Patriots deflated footballs or did anything to diminish the integrity of the game. Goodell apologizes and agrees to investigate the Colts, Kensil and Harbaugh as well as the NFL to determine where the spurious leaks originated. Brady accepts Goodell’s apology given that Goodell agrees to donate $5M to a charity of Brady’s choosing.

    As for the guy above who stated “he can’t wait for the AFC East teams to bury Brady this season”….I’d ask why would this season be any different? Remember what happened last time the league screwed with the Patriots? Expect Brady and the Pats to run up the score all season long…..

  135. This is for ‘helmetcatch’, lol.
    Hmmmm, let see, since there are 31 teams that lose frequently to the Patriots, I can believe that over 50% of those watching believe Tom is guilty.. because their teams lose repeatedly to the Patriots. And, generally most people who watch the Today show don’t really matter to anybody except for the Today show. And, aren’t most of those watchers women? Idk.. I think if you have time to sit around and watch so much tv, maybe you should read a report by some REAL SCIENTISTS who proved that the Wells report is nothing but a bunch of lies. The Wells report set out to find Tom Brady guilty no matter what the truth is. It has been proven by REAL SCIENTISTS at AEI that the investigators for Wells were given the end result that Goodell wanted and made the report to show that result.

  136. From what Clayton said, it’s likely there will be no reduction in the suspension because there’s no point if they’re only going to take it to court anyway.

  137. Making a big deal out of this has to rank among the stupidest things NFL officials have ever done. Used to watch every game I could. Now I’m just not interested in football anymore.

  138. pauldeba says:
    Jul 19, 2015 6:36 PM
    Would someone like to quote the clause and page # in the CBA where it says a player must “co-operate” in an investigation about his actions? I’ve read it 15 times and can’t find it.

    ______________________________
    It falls under conduct detetrimental to the league. The CBA gives Goodell all the power when in comes to that. I don’t agree with it and I am still proud of my Steelers for not signing the CBA because it gave Goodell too much power. From everything I have read there is no actual writing saying a player must cooperate but its one of those unwritten laws. From my understanding Goodell can pretty much call anything conduct detremental to the league. I’m not defending either side here but I would beg the question as to why is Brady getting suspended for not cooperating but Gostkowski is not when he didn’t fully cooperate either.

  139. nepatriot1 says:
    Jul 19, 2015 5:39 PM
    thesteelhurtin says:
    Jul 19, 2015 1:42 PM
    The Steelers broke no rules and steroids started in the 60s in the NFL. The Oline used roids as did every other Oline in the league.
    —————————-
    Keep telling yourself that******
    __________________________
    What rules did they break? ALso there are several reports of steroid use dating back to the 50’s. Also it was at it highest use rate in the 80s which is why they weren’t banned until 1987. So I ask again what rules did the Steelers break? What next are we going to say we need to go back and fine all the players from back then for roughing the passer or illegal hits to the head because it’s a rule in todays NFL? So I guess every game played between the 1950-1987 should have an astrik on it because “it’s more probable then not” that someone on both teams were using steroids.

  140. The entire narrative of the punishment process is so pathetically wrong. Goodell should not be ruling based on what makes the most people happy. He should be ruling based on what is fair and just.
    Its so sad to see the league being run by a man who makes policy and doles punishment based on what social media tells him to do.
    Goodell is THE problem with the entire deflategate mess. He botched this from day 1; he turned what should have been a non-story into a 7 month (and counting) saga. How Goodell can continue to drag the “shield” through the mud time and again and still hold his job is beyond me.

  141. If Brady doesn’t play week one, Steelers figure they are in good shape. Perhaps they’ll show up with the same team they had when they got their clocks cleaned by Tampa Bay last year. Hilarious.

  142. whywerule says:
    Jul 19, 2015 1:11 PM
    patsstinkoftaint says:
    Jul 19, 2015 11:05 AM
    If the penalties are lowered because of the Ray Rice comparison, the Falcons and Browns should be next in line for THEIR reductions……

    Certainly, texting in plays is FAR less an offense than domestic violence, isn’t that the logic??

    Yes, IMO, texting in plays is less of an offense than domestic violence.

    The Browns lost no draft picks for that texting offense. The GM who did the texting, who happens to stink at his job, was suspended four games and I believe fined 250k. No draft picks lost, no players suspended. Does anyone really care, even among Browns fans, that the GM was suspended? That penalty does not even register as a slap on the wrist.

    The Falcons lost a 5th round draft pick and were fined 350k for their cheating. No players suspended. A slap on the wrist.

    The Pats and their fan base would welcome having their penalty reduced to just the loss of a 5th round draft pick and a 350k fine even though the Pats, their players and their equipment people are guilty of nothing. Well, guilty of nothing is not entirely true. The fact is that the Pats are guilty of having the Greatest Head Coach of All-Time in Bill Belichick, having the Greatest QB of All-Time in Tom Brady, and being the Greatest NFL Dynasty of All-Time.

    ****

    Mitigating factors:

    *first offense for both teams (that I’m aware of)
    *no players involved, hence no suspensions
    *cooperated with investigation (kind of a biggie)

    Regardless how you feel about deflate gate, using Ray Rice as the barometer for doling out suspensions is ludicrous.

    Almost as dumb as GOAT arguments. Apples and oranges across eras. While all 3 are indeed worthy of praise, for my money I’d take Vince Lombardi as my coach any day of the week and twice on sundays (there’s a reason the trophy bears his name), Montana as my QB (never lost a SB, Tom can never match him), and the Steelers as the greatest dynasty (did it across multiple decades, with multiple coaches and multiple QBs).

  143. I never knew a 27-24 score could be considered cleaning their clocks. I learn something new every day.

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