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Can Seahawks, Wilson get deal done before camp?

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The deadline is artificial, but it’s also very real. If the Seahawks and quarterback Russell Wilson don’t work out a new contract by the start of training camp, the process all be placed on hold until after the season.

Coupled with the belief that Wilson wants to be paid now as if already were a free agent, that doesn’t bode well for a deal getting done.

But a deal isn’t out of the question. Some think there’s a better chance a deal will be finalized than most believe there to be. Then again, more and more league insiders and observers believe there’s no chance a deal will be done by the start of training camp, so any chance of a contract being worked out would arguably be a better chance than most currently perceive.

Ultimately, it comes down to how much Wilson and agent Mark Rodgers want — and how much they’re willing to leave behind so that the Seahawks will be able to put great players around Wilson. It’s a line of demarcation between Wilson’s extreme confidence in his abilities and the delusion that he’s a franchise quarterback around whom a consistent contender cheaply can be cobbled. Between his commitment to the team and his commitment to getting paid every last dollar. Between his apparent obsession with being viewed as a good guy and his willingness to be perceived as selfish.

That last factor could be more important than any other, given the carefully-manicured image that Wilson has projected during his fairly short time in the NFL. That squeaky-clean faςade is leaking oil, and Wilson presumably has sufficient self-awareness to realize that.

For many franchise quarterbacks, the question is how much is enough? For Wilson, the better question is how much is too much? How much is too much in the eyes of the media, the fans, and teammates who already have a healthy dose of resentment toward the “Go ‘Hawks!” wunderkind?

Regardless of whether it’s real or phony, Wilson has become since 2012 the guy who can do no wrong. In recent weeks, Wilson has come off as a guy who can’t do much right when it comes to his contractual expectations. And the only way to reverse that could be to do a deal that meshes with the persona he previously had perfected.

For a while, it seemed that Wilson would be able to make a cash grab without jeopardizing his credibility. For now, it looks like Wilson can preserve that good-guy image by putting his humility where his money is.

The time to do that is right now, and once that decision is made, it shouldn’t take very long to work out a long-term contract that balances a lifetime of financial security with a decade of championship contention.

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  1. magnumpimustache says: Jul 19, 2015 3:59 PM

    Seattle is totally disrespecting Wilson.

    A total slap in the face. If I was him I would hold out the last week of training camp and be prepared to miss games if a deal is not done.

  2. jagsfanugh says: Jul 19, 2015 4:04 PM

    If he was as good as he thinks he is the Seahawks would have already paid him.

  3. biggpackfan says: Jul 19, 2015 4:07 PM

    No

  4. pftfan says: Jul 19, 2015 4:10 PM

    I really want Russell Wilson to hit the free market.

    It’s a joke that the Seahawks got to pay a world-class QB 5 years of an artificially-low rookie contract rate, without any sweeteners towards Wilson, and now expect Wilson to give them ANOTHER team-friendly contract.

    No, the Seahawks should’ve shown faith in Russell in the last 2 years and bumped his pay with a long-term mega extension, rather than stringing him along at a rookie contract rate at his own risk.

    Russell should repay the favor, eat the tag and hit the market in two years and tell the Hawks that if they want his services, they can bid alongside 31 other teams.

  5. bhlobos says: Jul 19, 2015 4:12 PM

    The only reason his image is leaking oil is because the media is spreading a hundred different rumors, all of which are believed by the average fan.

    He wants to get paid, yes, but comments to how much and for long are all coming from people like florio, not from Wilson or the Hawks.

    But hey, we get it… That nice guy image doesn’t have the click bait strength than if he’s apparently tarnished.

  6. 6thsense10 says: Jul 19, 2015 4:12 PM

    Put a cap on rookie salaries and prohibit them from any type of renegotiation in the event they greatly out play the contract and it’s no surprise the player wants every single cent he can squeeze in his next contract negotiation.

    Both the owners and the NFLPA are at fault. There should have some type of system in place that would address this but there isn’t an adequate one in place. Anyways…..I have my money on a deal getting done. No franchise QB in his prime who wasn’t injured has reached free agency.

  7. purplefaithful says: Jul 19, 2015 4:14 PM

    Trade him to a team with a top 3 next year for 3 1’s.

  8. sdchicken says: Jul 19, 2015 4:14 PM

    Hold out until week 10 and see how good Seattle does with Tavaris Jackson. They are taking advantage of Wilson and need to reward him. I would tell the Seahawks give me 5 year $105 million deal or I hold out till week 10. After the season it goes up to 5 years $125 million.

  9. walter0247 says: Jul 19, 2015 4:15 PM

    Wilson is such a class act.

    Pushing his team to the side for a little extra money? Just a great team player he is! 🙂

  10. colv says: Jul 19, 2015 4:16 PM

    30 million per year, 90 million guaranteed. If Cam, that guy in Miami whom has not won much, as opposed to two SBs with one trophy. Come on. Leave nothing on the table. Get all the money you can as a player, 25 teams will pay him next year.

  11. officialgame says: Jul 19, 2015 4:17 PM

    I haven’t a clue but if he doesn’t he would be foolish not to hold out this year because he isn’t making money to speak of and they can’t tag him. Next year the leverage reverts back to the Seahawks. His agent would be doing Wilson a disservice to do it any other way.

  12. dougchillin says: Jul 19, 2015 4:22 PM

    Enough of the Wilson articles. The deal will get done at some point just wait until it happens

  13. mpcny says: Jul 19, 2015 4:24 PM

    1.5 million this year if he plays on current deal. Let’s be conservative and say gets a deal at 20 million per for 6 years 120 million. But he does not do that now must get over 24 million ave over the same time frame to earn the same. Makes sense for both sides to do it now.

  14. jdphx says: Jul 19, 2015 4:24 PM

    So pay him…. then get rid of a couple more of his O-line,
    oh.. and #24 too.. Can’t afford THAT luxury.

  15. 2manyconcussions says: Jul 19, 2015 4:28 PM

    Apparently Wilson doesn’t think that signing a contract means anything. So, let’s assume the Hawks sign him to a long term deal and then when the new TV deal is signed and other QB’s are making more money, does Wilson then tear up this signed contract in favor of again renegotiating? This is a guy with no class and whose word is worth nothing.

  16. jakethesnake123 says: Jul 19, 2015 4:29 PM

    Never air your dirty laundry out in public. Keep your contract demands out of the media.

  17. greengoldandbold says: Jul 19, 2015 4:31 PM

    “That squeaky-clean faςade is leaking oil”
    C’mon Mike , I don’t think that’s even close to accurate. Maybe the sportwriters are trying to portray it in that fashion, but I don’t believe it to be accurate at all.
    He deserves to be paid. This is a High Stakes poker game.
    He helped get this team to 2 Super Bowls on the cheap. They owe him.
    He should get a 5 year $120 mil deal with $50 mil guaranteed. If it’s a salary cap issue, then Schneider and Carroll should have thought about this very issue when signing all their studs to big $$$$$$ deals the past 2 offseasons.
    You make your own bed, now you sleep in it !

  18. ajas95 says: Jul 19, 2015 4:31 PM

    As a Seahawks fan, I will tell you what I’m realizing…

    Russell Wilson is just a football player. A very good player, maybe the 5th best at his position. But he’s not a super-hero like we thought he was. He’s not a family member, like we treated him as…

    If there’s someone who’s a superhero, it’s John Schneider. That’s who I put my faith in.

  19. number1hawkfan says: Jul 19, 2015 4:35 PM

    Read the comment a couple posts up. Ripping the Seahawks for not bumping up his pay the last couple years. His name is (pftfan). How bout learning the rules”pftfan”. The Seahawks or any other team can’t give a player a raise until the fourth year of their rookie deal. It was bargained during the last CBA agreement. This isn’t news to most but I guess it’s news to you. Here’s how these things go. Either Wilson will get a new deal by training camp or he will be franchised next year and then they will try and get a new deal by the mid July deadline just like Dez and Demarias did this year. If he doesn’t he’ll play next year with the franchise tag. If that happens then there’s problems for the Seahawks. Before that this isn’t news and the Seahawks are fine. The sky isn’t falling this is all normal and really there’s no need to worry until after the 2016 season. Anything else that’s written or talked about doesn’t matter. It’s amazing how people forget that this happens all the time.

  20. harshedmellow says: Jul 19, 2015 4:39 PM

    I guess it’s more complex than just “pay the man, you idiots!” because we don’t know the specifics of what’s been offered. Maybe he wants something totally ludicrous. But with said, they got the bargain of the century the last few years with him, and have had unprecedented (for Seattle) success. Seems foolish to risk that.

    I think Wilson would grit his teeth and play for the 1.5M this year, but if he does that, he’s halfway out the door. The relationship would be badly tainted.

  21. berniemadoffsides says: Jul 19, 2015 4:40 PM

    Seattle’s defense has been #1 in the league 2012, 2013 and 2014.
    Their running game has also been #1, #3 or #4 the last 3 years, also.
    Their passing offense has been 26th or 27th overall the last 3 years.

    I’m not saying he’s not good, but he’s not worth Aaron Rodgers money. You can’t rely on him to carry your team on any given week like a Brady, Brees or Rodgers.

    He’s worth slightly more than Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. That being said, they let him play one more year, he probably wins a Super Bowl or goes deep into the playoffs once again, the Seahawks franchise him and end up trading him to the Jets, Bills, Browns or Texans. Someone will pay him elite money, but he’s just not worth it. Dude averages 210 yards/game – that instantly tells me they win games with their defense and run game above all else.

    Yes, yes – he ran for 800+ yards. Great, so did Mike Vick. If you can’t eve throw 3500 yards in this league, you’re not an elite QB and you’re not the main reason for your team’s success. He needs to go to a team with a stout defense, weapons around him and a strong running game – the Jets or Bills look like the perfect match.

  22. dungylol says: Jul 19, 2015 4:46 PM

    Wilson is nothing but a dink and dunk game manager and media darling like Troy Aikman was.

  23. jayhawk777 says: Jul 19, 2015 4:50 PM

    The Hawks are TRYING to pay him but he wants an exorbitant salary and guarantees that the Hawks won’t pay because they need to keep a TEAM.

    Otherwise, he’d be signed already. They aren’t trying to get him on the cheap. Their offer is commensurate with his performance and TEAM value.

    Be real. PC/JS and Paul Allen could give Wilson $50mm / yr but that doesn’t serve the best interest of the TEAM.

    Are you getting it? It’s about TEAM. Either Wilson reduces his demands to be commensurate with QB pay or he’s going to play out the $1.5mm.

    Personally, I’d love to see what TJack could now do with this TEAM. A much better one than the 2011 version.

    Wilson = signed in 2016 or traded. Don’t cave PC/JS, don’t cave.

  24. heroofthisparish says: Jul 19, 2015 4:59 PM

    I hope this gets done, makes Wilson the highest paid QB in the league and sends the Seahawks into major cap hell. Of course, that is me being selfish as a Rams fan who has looked on with extreme envy at how the Seahawks found a gem in the 3rd round and have been able to put that roster together with the extra cash (although they had some epic drafts too).

    Sadly, signing Wilson wont make the Seahawks a bad team but it does, I hope, mean they have to shed some of that insane depth they have.

  25. boltshawks says: Jul 19, 2015 4:59 PM

    No reason why this can’t be done as camp starts. I think the media reports are misleading on the deal — I don’t think their is any issues re: the total value of the deal – the hangup is the total guarantee…that’s the hold up.

  26. tinbender2000 says: Jul 19, 2015 5:04 PM

    2manyconcussions says:
    Jul 19, 2015 4:28 PM

    Apparently Wilson doesn’t think that signing a contract means anything. So, let’s assume the Hawks sign him to a long term deal and then when the new TV deal is signed and other QB’s are making more money, does Wilson then tear up this signed contract in favor of again renegotiating? This is a guy with no class and whose word is worth nothing.
    ***********************************************

    A fitting screen name to be sure. That idiot Demaurice Smith screwed the players Big Time. I can’t stand the Seahawks or their fans (except my brother and his family) but Wilson is worth at least as much as Kaepernick or Ryan Tannehill for gods sake, and arguably more. Take it while you can get it Wilson, the Seahags are making a fortune off you.

  27. pdfortune says: Jul 19, 2015 5:15 PM

    As a Niner fan he has been very frustrating for three years. He is a strange robotic guy that typically won’t hurt your team. I understand why he wants to get paid a lot more. Three years three playoffs and two Superbowl appearances. He has been to one more Superbowl than Rodgers (but he’s not better). Paying him will hurt the team. They can’t afford to keep everybody. This will possibly expose him when Lynch is gone and the defense is weaker.

  28. raideralex99 says: Jul 19, 2015 5:19 PM

    Seriously 3 years in the league and you think you should be paid elite QB pay … get real.
    How many years was Brady under paid … he never got greedy … put in his time and was FINALLY rewarded by a big pay day by the Pats.

    Russell here is a little secret … you make more money by endorsements and you get them when your team wins. Maybe if you did not throw that INT you would have made a few millions off of those endorsements.
    Don’t let it go to you head … you are just an average QB right now … the Seahawks gave you your start you so be glad not greedy.

  29. babygaga19 says: Jul 19, 2015 5:19 PM

    Wilson wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL??

    Ummm, no. He is getting terrible advice.

  30. PFTneedsToBringCommentSystemToThe21stCentury says: Jul 19, 2015 5:20 PM

    Please do, and pay him a million-billion dollars. About time they see what it’s like being saddled with a “real” QB contract.

  31. nnagi says: Jul 19, 2015 5:24 PM

    This guy is so overrated and desperate, I am co vinced that there is not a single other team interested in him, he thrives in a system and he k ows it, that’s why he’s trying g so hard to get a monster contract now before he’s exposed

  32. uglydingo says: Jul 19, 2015 5:25 PM

    He deserves to be well paid but if the reports of him expecting $25M per season with over $75M guaranteed are correct, then a deal will not be done.
    He is very good and he deserves to be well paid but if his Agent insists on him being the highest paid player in the NFL, then the math doesn’t work. Good luck Russell in getting your negotiating advice from a higher level.

  33. usdcoyotesfan says: Jul 19, 2015 5:34 PM

    I loved it in the Super Bowl when Wilson threw the losing interception, Sherman’s face went from arrogance to breaking down into tears, and Irvin and Bennett went roid rage on Gronkowski only to both get slammed by him.

  34. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Jul 19, 2015 5:47 PM

    Back to back Super Bowl winning quarterback, Russell Wilson.

  35. jfm215 says: Jul 19, 2015 5:48 PM

    Who cares? He talks to god and threw the worst possible pass in super bowl history

  36. elgranderojo79 says: Jul 19, 2015 5:57 PM

    I think Russell’s agent is trying to crack the NFL salary cap to open it up like baseball. He has had a number of players in baseball where the current team’s couldn’t sign the player based on his negotiations and forced a trade. That may work with no salary cap, but not in the NFL as it currently stands. I think this guy has blown up Wilson’s head so much that he believes he is worth it. He is worth A LOT, but not highest paid player money. I’m afraid Wilson is being used as a tool… Or the agent is a bonehead (which is probably not the case).

  37. restoreintegritytonfl says: Jul 19, 2015 6:00 PM

    Tom Brady was cheating? Don’t worry Florio says it’s fine. His justification is that some citizens commit illegal crimes, and some of these citizens happen to be pro athletes.

  38. bhlobos says: Jul 19, 2015 6:06 PM

    Wilson is nothing but a dink and dunk game manager and media darling like Troy Aikman was.

    —————–
    I can’t believe you got thumbs up for that…

    Do you watch Seahawk games? RW has one of the most effective deep ball QBs since he’s been in the league…

    And for those saying “he doesn’t even throw for 3500 yd”… so what, he isn’t asked to. Just like Richard could play the whole field, but only plays one side… because that’s the team philosophy.

    Guarantee you that if they wanted RW to throw 30-35 times a game, he’d have the same numbers as everyone else.

    And while I’m at it, go check out your golden boy Brady’s numbers his first 4-5 years in the league… bet you’ll be surprised at how similar they are.

  39. berniemadoffsides says: Jul 19, 2015 6:18 PM

    @bhlobos

    I’m saying he’s not worth Aaron Rodgers money.

    Ryan Tannehill money? Yes, absolutely.

    Not Rodgers. RW has had a VERY good supporting cast in his 3 years.

  40. mongo3401 says: Jul 19, 2015 6:19 PM

    LOL. Take Marshawn Lynch out of the equation the last few years and most of you with the blinders in would see Wilson is not a Super Star. Lynch is the key not inky to Wilson’s success but to the Seahawks success along with a great defense.

  41. stampnhawk says: Jul 19, 2015 6:20 PM

    Wilson’s X factor is his legs. You can tell last year especially. 2 years ago he ran the ball at every opportunity and lit up some teams (Bills in Toronto).

    Last year he tried to be a pocket passer but didn’t have much success with that in the first half of games. When he didn’t make quick enough reads or no one was open, only then in the second half did he take off.

    But the star of that team has been the defense, especially since getting a past rush two seasons ago. And Lynch.

  42. 6thsense10 says: Jul 19, 2015 6:26 PM

    berniemadoffsides says:
    Jul 19, 2015 4:40 PM
    Seattle’s defense has been #1 in the league 2012, 2013 and 2014.
    Their running game has also been #1, #3 or #4 the last 3 years, also.
    Their passing offense has been 26th or 27th overall the last 3 years.

    I’m not saying he’s not good, but he’s not worth Aaron Rodgers money. You can’t rely on him to carry your team on any given week like a Brady, Brees or Rodgers.

    He’s worth slightly more than Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. That being said, they let him play one more year, he probably wins a Super Bowl or goes deep into the playoffs once again, the Seahawks franchise him and end up trading him to the Jets, Bills, Browns or Texans. Someone will pay him elite money, but he’s just not worth it. Dude averages 210 yards/game – that instantly tells me they win games with their defense and run game above all else.

    Yes, yes – he ran for 800+ yards. Great, so did Mike Vick. If you can’t eve throw 3500 yards in this league, you’re not an elite QB and you’re not the main reason for your team’s success. He needs to go to a team with a stout defense, weapons around him and a strong running game – the Jets or Bills look like the perfect match.

    ———
    So let me get this straight. The fact that Wilson rushed for 800+ yards doesn’t bolster his case yet you still use the fact that Seattle was rated the #1 rushing unit in the NFL against him? You can’t have it both ways. Take away Wilson’s rushing and the Seahawks are ranked 11th in the league in rushing. Wilson’s legs are a huge part of Seattle’s success.

    Secondly…. I don’t put much stock in Wilson not being able to hit 3500 yards because 1. The Seahawks receivers sucks and the coaches know that so 2. They play to their strength of rushing with a great back and dynamic qb. Wilson now has a receiving tight end that is amongst the best receivers in the game. We’ll see how he does this year.

  43. fumblenuts says: Jul 19, 2015 6:27 PM

    For ALL the trolls that declare he is JUST a game manager…..

    His numbers speak for themselves. His 98.6 passer rating is the fourth-best in the NFL over the past three seasons. His 15 fourth-quarter/OT comebacks are the most in the league since he arrived. And his 42 victories are the most of any QB in NFL history over his first three seasons. There is no limit to what this man can accomplish.

  44. seahonky says: Jul 19, 2015 6:32 PM

    usdcoyotesfan says:
    Jul 19, 2015 5:34 PM
    I loved it in the Super Bowl when Wilson threw the losing interception, Sherman’s face went from arrogance to breaking down into tears, and Irvin and Bennett went roid rage on Gronkowski only to both get slammed by him.

    ___________________________

    I loved it when the Packers choked in the NFC championship. Great game, huh usdcoyotesfan?

    I also enjoyed the Fail Mary game. You remember that one, don’t you? I bet you do. Hahahahaha!!!!!!

  45. revren10 says: Jul 19, 2015 6:38 PM

    Russel Wilson is about as talented Akili smith

  46. nicofthenorthstar says: Jul 19, 2015 6:39 PM

    Depends. What is Jesus (his REAL sports agent/QB coach) telling him regarding contract negotiations?

  47. pantherpro says: Jul 19, 2015 6:54 PM

    Seagags,

    I say cut the ties with the Jesus freak. Aint nothing good coming out of that fantasy land!

  48. PhD says: Jul 19, 2015 6:55 PM

    Florio is now negotiating on behalf of the team. Yea, that’s what reporters are supposed to do.

  49. harrisbarton says: Jul 19, 2015 7:19 PM

    “Regardless of whether it’s real or phony, Wilson has become since 2012 the guy who can do no wrong.”

    I can think of one wrong that he committed — throwing that pick to Butler on the goal line.

  50. kamthechancellor says: Jul 19, 2015 7:27 PM

    …decade of championship contention. I like the ring of that, Florio.

  51. jvw1982 says: Jul 19, 2015 7:28 PM

    this is a business, and any QB that has put up the wins and SB trophies as this guy has must demand a new contract….just as any player who under preforms to what he is paid, the team will demand he take a pay cut….give him his money…..now

  52. pkgoode55 says: Jul 19, 2015 7:28 PM

    Gosh, what a zinger.

  53. pftpoetsboyfriend says: Jul 19, 2015 7:45 PM

    pftfan says:
    Jul 19, 2015 4:10 PM
    …the Seahawks should’ve shown faith in Russell in the last 2 years and bumped his pay with a long-term mega extension, rather than stringing him along at a rookie contract rate at his own risk…

    ********************************************************

    This off-season was the first opportunity they had to do a new deal under the collective bargaining agreement with the player’s association.

    Those are the rules that all teams currently operate under.

  54. berniemadoffsides says: Jul 19, 2015 7:51 PM

    Guys, you’re just not getting it: look at the top ten highest paid guys on the roster: they account for about $90M towards the cap: Sherman, Thomas, Okung (Free agent in 2016, by the way), Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett, Kam, KJ, Mebane, Lynch… and then Irvin is a free agent next year, as well.

    You don’t pay a QB $22-25M/year when he’s worth $17-18M. You keep him this year, let him produce, then ship him out to a team with money to blow: aka, the Jets.

    But hey, what do I know?

  55. xbam1 says: Jul 19, 2015 7:53 PM

    Florio…Wilson has nothing wrong…he wants to be paid and should be paid….he should try to get every last dollar that he has coming to him…how far would the Seahawks have gotten the last two years if Tavaris Jackson or Matt Flynn was the starting QB….PAY THEM MAN!

  56. averagjoe says: Jul 19, 2015 8:05 PM

    Ah, give it up already, Florio. You guys started this what-if musical chairs five months ago, and your ‘informed’ guesses have not changed an iota over that time. You’re still listing the same options, which we all already know, and are no closer to an answer. Why not just say “we don’t know what the hell’s going to happen, and will just have to wait and see,” and then move on.

  57. Stiller43 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:12 PM

    Wilsons not NEARLY as good as he thinks he is. The Seahawks are being very smart in not giving an elite QB contract to a “very good” QB. Let him go to the Browns or Redskins…see how good he is on a bad team.

  58. usdcoyotesfan says: Jul 19, 2015 8:12 PM

    usdcoyotesfan says:
    Jul 19, 2015 5:34 PM
    I loved it in the Super Bowl when Wilson threw the losing interception, Sherman’s face went from arrogance to breaking down into tears, and Irvin and Bennett went roid rage on Gronkowski only to both get slammed by him.

    ___________________________

    I loved it when the Packers choked in the NFC championship. Great game, huh usdcoyotesfan?

    I also enjoyed the Fail Mary game. You remember that one, don’t you? I bet you do. Hahahahaha!!!!!!
    ——————————————————
    I loved it even more when the Seahawks won the coin toss, Matt Hasselbeck said “we want the ball and we’re gonna score” then threw the losing pick-six on the Seahawks’ first drive.

  59. bradhammond says: Jul 19, 2015 8:12 PM

    If reports are accurate, then the Seahawks have already offered Russell something between the 20.8 that Cam Newton got and the 22.0 that Rodgers is making. I’m happy with Russell getting a lot of money, but I’m not going to call the Seahawks cheapskates if they can’t get him signed. I’d be incredibly curious how big an offer Wilson could get next year if the Seahawks used the non-exclusive franchise tag – since any team that offered him a deal would be giving two first round picks, and the Seahawks would still get to match the offer if they thought the salary was reasonable.

  60. pkgoode55 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:35 PM

    Just who do you replace him with?

  61. pkgoode55 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:36 PM

    A realist. How did you get loose?

  62. theparadoxx82 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:40 PM

    “Regardless of whether it’s real or phony, Wilson has become since 2012 the guy who can do no wrong.”

    There’s a big difference between do no wrong and get a free pass. Being the NFL’s golden boy has its perks.

  63. davis0917 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:44 PM

    Yes 6yr/120 million

  64. kd75 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:51 PM

    Look…Wilson ain’t gonna tank because he is unhappy with $1.5 million. He needs the franchise tag for any leverage.

    Just like Kapernick.

    Likewise, the Seahawks aren’t going to pay him before they have to. And they have him under control for three more years.

    Wilson wants to be treated like a Free Agent – He is not!

    Mike Trout would like to be paid like a Free Agent too, but that’s not happening.

  65. bert1913 says: Jul 19, 2015 8:56 PM

    WWJD

  66. descendency says: Jul 19, 2015 8:58 PM

    Wilson is very underrated at PFT.

    He’s not Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers, but he’s far better than Andy Dalton and Colin Kaepernick. The guy has a strong arm, good athleticism, and plays smart.

    He’s worth locking up long term and it’s not going to be cheap.

  67. dwilkinson1968 says: Jul 19, 2015 9:03 PM

    It’s amazing how many people who supposedly love God so much actually love money more.

  68. pantherpro says: Jul 19, 2015 9:15 PM

    I will take Kap over Jesus freak any day! Seagags will see how average he is as soon as they lose Lynch!

  69. elgranderojo79 says: Jul 19, 2015 9:39 PM

    Wilson isn’t looking at this from a business perspective. For him to maximize his endorsements he needs to be on a consistent winner. There is some debate whether he can do that by himself. If he gets 25 million per year from a team we’ll find out if he can do it with an average supporting cast and mediocre defense. The other factor he may not be considering is state income tax. Washington has none, which is a huge bonus over a number of other locations. If he is all about the money he may need to do a little more research over the prestige of being “the highest paid player”.

  70. donnymacjack says: Jul 19, 2015 10:03 PM

    Anyone who says Wilson is not an elite QB needs to go look at his entire book. Here’s a few things to look at and then compare him to any other NFL QB. Those subjects that are statistically based you will find he is in the top 10 in all of them and top 5 of most. The intangibles are just that…intangible. But even looking at them on an emotional level you’d have to put him in the top 10 of each of those also. Everything is over the last three years because…well he’s only been in the league three years, duh. So here you go…

    – Wins #1 No QB has more.
    – SB’s #1 No QB has more
    – Most playoff wins No QB has more
    – 4th Qtr comebacks for wins #1 No QB has more
    – Game winning drives #1 No QB has more
    – QB passer rating 98.6
    – QB Rushing #1 – No QB is better
    – TD to INT ratio
    – White house appearances No QB has more 🙂
    – Easily recognized as one of the hardest workers at his craft. Think Manning and you’ll be right in line with Wilson’s habits. First in to work and last out every day.
    – Play caller….yes play CALLER. Most audibles into TD’s in the league. No other QB has more
    – Film junkie

    There are more that I’m sure others can think of but I challenge anyone to find a comprehensive set of QB stats and intangibles that make up a better QB package in the league than what Wilson has right now.

    40 years ago people talked Bradshaw and Stabler
    30 years ago people talked Montana and Marino
    20 years ago people talked Elway and Aikman
    10 years ago people talked Manning and Brady.
    Today people talk Rogers and Brees
    Tomorrow people will talk Luck and Wilson

  71. stoptrippn says: Jul 19, 2015 10:14 PM

    He’s worth 10-12 million a year. That’s it. If he leads them back in the next two years…then they should add more up front money

  72. profootball13 says: Jul 19, 2015 10:18 PM

    usdcoyotesfan says:
    Jul 19, 2015 5:34 PM
    I loved it in the Super Bowl when Wilson threw the losing interception, Sherman’s face went from arrogance to breaking down into tears, and Irvin and Bennett went roid rage on Gronkowski only to both get slammed by him.

    ___________________________

    I loved it when the Packers choked in the NFC championship. Great game, huh usdcoyotesfan?

    I also enjoyed the Fail Mary game. You remember that one, don’t you? I bet you do. Hahahahaha!!!!!!
    ——————————————————
    I loved it even more when the Seahawks won the coin toss, Matt Hasselbeck said “we want the ball and we’re gonna score” then threw the losing pick-six on the Seahawks’ first drive.
    ————————————

    I love it when all you can come up with is ancient history….Hasselbeck…lol….how about last year?

    Best Regards

  73. learysdisciples says: Jul 19, 2015 10:23 PM

    Aaaand here comes the endless rhetoric about Wilsons contract.

  74. ikeclanton says: Jul 19, 2015 10:28 PM

    The best thing he can do is sign a realistic deal that keeps him with this Seattle team, where he can compete for Super Bowls for the next 4-5 years at least. Both sides need each other–he’s a great fit there.

    Why? You’re still rich beyond belief, have a chance to become a legendary, multiple Super Bowl winning QB, and players are looked upon much more fondly when they stay with 1 team over their career. It’s much, much more rare than it used to be.

    Why is it so important for him to be the highest paid QB in the league? Seldom would anyone trade that for performing somewhere where your chances of winning it all are slimmer.

    If the 40 year old Wilson got to speak to today’s version of himself, he would probably agree.

  75. lacw09 says: Jul 19, 2015 10:56 PM

    I love it when all you can come up with is ancient history….Hasselbeck…lol….how about last year?

    Best Regards
    —————————–
    Hasselbeck was a Seahawk less than 5 seasons ago. Ancient history for Seattle fans is 4+ years because any time before that their fan base a a tenth of the current size.

    “Shaun Alexander? Was he the king of Macedonia?”

    -Seattle “fans “

  76. whattaditka says: Jul 19, 2015 11:00 PM

    What about the Broncos next year? With Peyton most likely in his last season, the Broncos are already accustomed to spending $20 million on a QB contract. Broncos have a solid defense, top brass that knows the QB position, and a true #1 receiver locked up for a few years. A definite maybe??

  77. mythaimyke says: Jul 19, 2015 11:02 PM

    Let’s hope Seattle is not as foolish with their money as Carolina, SF and Washington!

  78. profootball13 says: Jul 19, 2015 11:20 PM

    I love it when all you can come up with is ancient history….Hasselbeck…lol….how about last year?

    Best Regards
    —————————–
    Hasselbeck was a Seahawk less than 5 seasons ago. Ancient history for Seattle fans is 4+ years because any time before that their fan base a a tenth of the current size.

    “Shaun Alexander? Was he the king of Macedonia?”

    -Seattle “fans “
    ———————————————

    Again you try and deflect from the Elephant in the room…..There are two players on the current Seahawks roster that were on the team you mentioned.

    How relevant is your post? So how about you answer my question? How about LAST YEAR?

    Best Regards

  79. rainponcho87 says: Jul 19, 2015 11:20 PM

    I’m a 49er fan and I’ve seen a lot of Russell Wilson and I think he’s pretty damn good. When you think you have the play stopped he keeps creating and manages a first down or better. I think he should be paid like a top quarterback, probably top 10. But he seems like he wants more and wants to either be the highest paid or have most of it guaranteed. I don’t if his image is leaking oil but his contract demands do seem to run counter to the good-guy, GoHawks persona he has projected, so I find that surprising. Sounds odd, but I think it’s true, for the kind of money he will be making, a few million more or less per year isn’t going to make all that much difference in his life. $2-4M less per year to remain on a great team is 1) not going to change his life at all, especially consider taxes, and 2) if the winning continues it is probably actually a good business decision in that his value as a spokesman is much higher. My advice to him is to take a good long term deal now, keep focused on winning, and the money part will work out fine.

  80. azcactus says: Jul 19, 2015 11:38 PM

    The Seahawks whole team is ridiculously good 😦

  81. ninnerfansince2012 says: Jul 19, 2015 11:52 PM

    Hasselbeck was a Seahawk less than 5 seasons ago. Ancient history for Seattle fans is 4+ years because any time before that their fan base a a tenth of the current size.

    “Shaun Alexander? Was he the king of Macedonia?”

    -Seattle “fans “

    ————————————————————-

    Huh? Doesn’t make sense. Good comeback, dude

  82. overatedselfpromoter says: Jul 20, 2015 6:16 AM

    This article was paid for by Aron Rodgers

  83. RegisHawk says: Jul 20, 2015 6:41 AM

    Can it? Yes.

    Will it? It doesn’t need to.

  84. nfl1818 says: Jul 20, 2015 8:27 AM

    How much is he making in endorsements?

    How much can he make, assuming Nike or similar.

  85. steeltroll says: Jul 20, 2015 9:01 AM

    Have to remember how competitive all these guys are. You don’t make it to the NFL without being an honor loving, respect driven freak. So while most of us would have a money orgasm from signing a “terrible” deal for 10 million dollars, Wilson, psychologically, can do no such thing. It would be *disrespectful*. It’s unthinkable to him.

  86. Great Caesar's Ghost says: Jul 20, 2015 9:11 AM

    He could always back up Rodgers.

  87. winninaintsinnin says: Jul 20, 2015 10:33 AM

    And it caused Atlanta couch Dan Henning to do a not-so-slow burn. “The players should control the game and not the fans,” hissed Henning, who said he was “disappointed” that the officials allowed Seattle ’s 12th man to completely dominate the game, even shutting it down for nearly six minutes during the third quarter with its noise pollution.

    From a 1985 article – look it up.

    This is when the NFL, for the only time ever, made a rule targeting one fan base; the Hawks.

    Maybe some of you self proclaimed, long time fans of other teams should stop embarrassing yourselves.

  88. jmc8888 says: Jul 20, 2015 10:44 AM

    Who knows?

    But my guess is no. It appears quite clearly that Paul Allen and the Seahawks are low balling him.

    The whole notion that Allen doesn’t want to fund the guarantees in escrow is absolutely moronic.

    The Seahawks want him to give them a hometown discount. The problem is, they’ve already gotten the best discount on a QB in the past 40 years during these past three years.

    Perhaps they will come to their senses, not that I want them to, but he wants to be the top paid guy, and if the Seahawks don’t make him one, someone else will.

    All I have to say Seattle fans, you lucked in RW. It wasn’t some grand plan. It was luck.

    Remember who you signed to start that season? Matt Flynn. Remember the guy you got before him? Clipboard Jesus…aka Charlie Whitehurst.

    As everyone knows, QB’s don’t grow on trees. Seahawks would be wise to remember this, and after all the notes we’ve gotten about this situation, RW should be less inclined as ever to give them any discount.

  89. steves11 says: Jul 20, 2015 11:38 AM

    These contract squabbles get tiring. We all know that eventually a deal will be reached. The less everyone talks about it, the quicker something will get done.

  90. veetan says: Jul 20, 2015 12:26 PM

    The rest of the league is hoping the organization pays top dollar to the QB who threw four pics in the NFC Championship game AND the losing interception in the SuperBowl.

  91. RegisHawk says: Jul 20, 2015 12:53 PM

    All I have to say Seattle fans, you lucked in RW. It wasn’t some grand plan. It was luck.

    It wasn’t luck. It was an excellent scouting department. John Schneider finds good candidates…and the Seahawks coaching staff gets more out of them than any other teams’. Eat your heart out (but I suspect you already are).

  92. granadafan says: Jul 20, 2015 1:34 PM

    As a Niners fan, I begrudgingly acknowledge that Wilson is very good QB and surrounded by a very very good team with a very good coach. He definitely deserves a huge pay raise, and I don’t blame him for wanting to get paid now given the short shelf life of players.

    That said, as a Niners fan, I also hope that Seattle breaks the bank to sign Wilson, causing massive resentment in the locker room. I hope the huge salary busts the salary cap, forcing the Seahawks to make some very tough choices personnel-wise.

  93. Marshawn Lunch says: Jul 20, 2015 1:53 PM

    Russell Wilson hasn’t thrown for 3500 yards, you say? No, he hasn’t. And he hasn’t been asked to. If the Seahawks were to shift from a Run First team, Wilson would make the throws and get the “elite” passing yardage.

    You people just can’t handle what a real “team” looks like. I love how many Seahawks haters have to go to the “Great defense and great running game” speech to argue against Wilson being elite. Yes, Lynch is amazing, but Wilson was the 15th best runningback in the league last year. So, Wilson is a huge part of the Seahawks run game. Take him out of the equation and the Seahawks are middle of the road running wise.

    Fact of the matter is that the Seahawks don’t want or need you definition of elite. We know that Russell Wilson puts in the time and effort to lead this team to more wins than your teams. What he has done in the past is in the past. Wilson doesn’t dwell on the past. He is on to the next game. One game at a time, he’ll prove whatever he needs to to whoever needs it proven. 3500 yards passing? He’ll get there. and he’ll eventually throw for over 5000 yards when he needs to after Lynch retires. Don’t put anything past Wilson.

  94. Dogsweat says: Jul 20, 2015 2:01 PM

    It’s the defense stupid. RW for MM in a trade.

  95. discosucs2005 says: Jul 20, 2015 3:25 PM

    Late to the party, but it’s so silly to see the same person who mocked Kap for taking a very team friendly deal, criticize Wilson for not doing the same. There is no winning, you either are foolish and leaving money on the table, or selfishly hindering your team. I hope most fans understand that a player has every right to get as much as they can, and if they want to take a pay cut, that’s their prerogative, but it’s up to the front office and coaching staff to get the roster capable of winning it all, not the players.

  96. nowillrepeat says: Jul 20, 2015 3:45 PM

    How is that Jimmy Graham contract looking now?

  97. frankfortschooldropout says: Jul 20, 2015 4:20 PM

    He wouldn’t be attacked so viciously here if he never mentioned God at all.
    Look for the venom to get more and more toxic from all media.
    “It’s a line of demarcation between Wilson’s extreme confidence in his abilities and the delusion that he’s a franchise quarterback around whom a consistent contender cheaply can be cobbled. Between his commitment to the team and his commitment to getting paid every last dollar. Between his apparent obsession with being viewed as a good guy and his willingness to be perceived as selfish.” -Florio

    Name one time a franchise QB was up for a new deal and was treated like this? Never. The only thing different is what he says about God and faith.
    “every last dollar.”? Manning leave cash on the table? How about Flacco? How about Cam or Brees? None of those guys got that treatment except this guy. Again expect it to get worse. Enjoy your villain Hawks fan, as someone who professes faith is a target for media.

  98. eacuna05 says: Jul 20, 2015 4:36 PM

    At least our guy Colin K is willing to take a prove-it deal year to year because he believes in the Team concept, and he has the balls to do it.

    Russell knows in the next few yrs both Lynch And Pete Carroll Will be gone, so why not cash in now before Seattle becomes irrelevant again?

    The team was irrelevant for a good 40 years before 2012,so it would be nothing new to see.

  99. RegisHawk says: Jul 21, 2015 9:40 AM

    Kaep took a “prove it” deal because that’s all the clout he had when it came to his contract. The same holds true for Dalton. Neither of these guys was considered good enough to force ownership to pony up more than that. In Kaepernick’s case, he has a de-escalator which will save the team even more if he doesn’t meet the criteria, which seems likely.

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