Report: Brady authorizes NFLPA to go to federal court

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The NFL moved first, but, as expected, it looks like they’ll have company in going to federal court in the wake of Commissioner Roger Goodell’s decision to uphold Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s suspension.

Jim Trotter of ESPN reports that Brady has authorized the NFLPA to go to federal court in an attempt to overturn the suspension.

There aren’t any other details about the filing, including whether or not the union will seek an injunction that would allow Brady to play while the case is being heard. If Brady does get an injunction and ultimately loses the case, he would have to serve the suspension later in the season or even in the playoffs should the Patriots advance that far this season. If he doesn’t go for the injunction, he’d serve the suspension while trying to recoup the salary he’d lose while out for four games.

With the NFL filing in Manhattan, we’ll also be keeping an eye out for where the NFLPA files their action. Minnesota has been the preferred location because Judge David Doty’s rulings have been favorable in the past and the NFL’s desire to avoid that venue will likely add to the legal proceedings that will unfold in the coming weeks and months.

179 responses to “Report: Brady authorizes NFLPA to go to federal court

  1. Deflating footballs, cheating on pregnant girlfriends with super models, refusing to see the president, destroying evidence, spying on teams, murdering innocent people.

    The Patriot way.

  2. I’m tired of this garbage. The NFL leaked all kinds of nonsense, didn’t clear it up and now this nonsense. NFL – hear this, you won’t be getting a nickel from me in the future. Hello NCAA.

  3. But CRYBABY NATION said he wouldn’t go to court.

    Guess what CRYBABIES in federal court there will be NO subpoena for phone records.

  4. I’ve said before it and I’ll say it again — the comments on this site are super bipolar. One minute it’s, “GO BRADY, screw you Goodell!” The next is, “Brady is a cheater bhahah. Take that Pats fans!!” I don’t get it….I bet that most of the commenters aren’t that ignorant but how much of you guys actually believed Goodell and the NFL would reduce the suspension?? Brady taking this court was known since the moment this hunt began. Again, there is NO REASON why a grown man should hand over his property over for an invention about how much footballs weigh. Why they needed Brady’s phone when they had the phones of others is beyond me.

  5. This is going to get interesting. I personally think that Brady is just digging a hole so deep that he will not be able to climb up, but is up to him.

  6. Under no circumstances would I allow anyone access to my cell phone. Browsing history. Texts about one’s employer, spouse, and friends. No way! Good for you Tom. Now go embarrass them in court.

  7. Apparently, the guy who didn’t know destroying his phone would be viewed as part of a cover-up doesn’t know they can subpoena the phone data directly from the phone company itself. Here’s one I’m *hoping* they leak…so many others could go down as a result (lookin’ at you, Belichick)…

  8. There are still tons of New England Patriots supporters on Twitter saying its just a coincidence that Brady destroyed his phone the day he was going to have to turn it over as evidence. C’mon man just admit he’s a cheater and had as much or more to do with the footballs being deflated as the poor ball boys who were just ordered to do it. I think being a liar is even worse than a cheater and Brady is both.

  9. The other players should step up and be like like YO NFLPA, I DONT WANT MY DUES PAYING FOR THIS STUPID CASE.

  10. Brady, no longer just a liar, a cheater but engaged in a cover up by destroying evidence!!

    Defend your cheating Quarterback now Patriots fans!!

  11. I don’t like this perceived advantage that judge Doty supposedly provides, I imagine if a judge keeps hearing how they are and advantage…they would be inclined to go the other way to stop those perceptions at some point.

  12. When did Belicheat first speak to Brady about deflategate? Supposedly, Thursday after the AFCCG according to the Wells report, more than 3 days after it exploded on national media, even though the story threatened the availability of Brady for the SB.

    Belicheat is on the phone Brady destroyed.

  13. Does anybody really believe they called the ball boy with the under-inflated balls, demanding swag from Brady- “deflator” because he lost weight?

    Is there one person that believes that?

  14. This is where the fun starts. The dirty laundry for both sides will come out. Up until now its been only Brady and the Patriots who’ve been on trial. Now we get to see what the NFL’s been hiding. Hope you haven’t upgraded your phone in the last 6 months Roger, Ted, Jim Kensil, other 31 owners, etc. Bwa ha ha ha!

  15. The world doesn’t have enough popcorn so it can sit back and watch all that will be taking place.

    Tommy, you are delaying the inevitable. Cut your losses.

    Admit it. You can’t get your head thru the door anymore.

  16. Of course BabyBrady wants to go to court, at this point he has nothing to lose. After all his suspension was not reduced and his reputation is trashed.

    He will not win in court, an innocent person does not destroy evidence that HIS OWN ATTORNEY COULD HAVE ACCUMULATED PER WELLS and would HAVE EXONERATED HIM IF THERE WAS NOTHING INCRIMINATING?

    Got it, Pats fans?

  17. Everytime this guy opens his mouth the hole he digs gets deeper. Cut your losses and let it go. The courts are going to fry you alive for destroying key evidence, Tom Cheaty.

  18. He we go. Don’t like the rules in the game go cry elsewhere. If he were to win, the power of the commissioner will be greatly diminished. I hate the commissioner but I hate institution changers more!

  19. He has no leg to stand on in court. The CBA is pretty clear. AT this point he is just pulling a hail mary. Especially with the admission that he purposely destroyed his cell phone.

  20. Stupid. Just own up to it, take your punishment, and move on. You’re guilty, you know it, we know it, everybody knows it. Suing isn’t going to save you any face at all and you won’t win. Even if you were completely innocent (which you’re not) the NFLPA screwed it all up when they gave Goodell the power to make these kinds of decisions.

  21. Disappointed in Brady but it doesn’t change that the league has also made a lot of wrong moves as well.

  22. Packer fan here…..I’ve gone from being a Goodell supporter to now….well, I actually despise the man. If…..Brady beat Gisele with his cell phone, then yeah, 4 game suspension.

    This is all about power and Goodell’s god complex. The NFL has no right to Brady’s personal phone. Any texts they were interested in would be on the receiving party’s cell phone anyway. This maneuver is another sleazy attempt by Godger and the NFL…it actually makes me hate him.

    The NFL is coming perilously close to extinction under the watch of the man empowered to enhance it. Hater or Pat lover, nobody should be happy about the inept way this whole thing has been handled, I’m now waiting for the NFL to investigate the overinflation of Aaron Rodgers’ footballs….god help us.

  23. Great – so many more months of this whole mess to sink our teeth into. Can’t wait!

  24. Enough already, Tom. You did it and tried to cover it up. Even the most hardcore Pats fan has to admit that in his heart of hearts. Brady made this a bigger deal than it should have ever been. Take your medicine and hope Garopolo doesn’t play lights out while your gone…

  25. And when they prove he lied under oath…

    Shoulda took the four game suspension, Tom.

  26. Goodell’s ruling not only tries to distinguish ball tampering by the Jets in 2009, it cited his stupendous failure of the Saints investigation as precedent for his current actions. It’s like he lives in an alternate reality.

  27. Wait, the haters said that he would be too afraid to go under oath in Federal Court. He’s not.

    I wish you hadn’t upgraded to that iphone6 when you did, Tommy, so still… go get ’em.

    The science teaches us that no air was let of of any football.

  28. Can’t wait to see the Hoodie and ball boys subpoenaed!!! NFL should call every patriot employee to the stand!

  29. Until they get to that point in the legal process where they want to talk to the two goons or subpoena the actual cell phone records. Then Tom will say, “oh, you want that information too, I was just kidding about the lawsuit”…

  30. By filing first, in NY, the league is hoping that when the Union files their appeal in Minnesota, it will ask that the Union’s action simply be consolidated with their EARLIER action in NY, thus attempting to avoid Judge Doty.

  31. In a perfect world, the courts will issue an injunction allowing Brady to play until the court hearing.

    And, the hearing takes place in Week 17, with Brady losing the case, and being suspended 4 games, making him miss the Playoffs.

  32. RegisHawk, I think we all want to know the truth of this – including the truth from the other side making the accusations, deciding the punishment, and then performing duties as unbiased arbitrator of those punishments.

    … Note: the NFL would not have known about Brady destroying his phone had his agent not specifically informed the NFL about 5 days before the appeal. This isn’t some smoking gun uncovered – it was disclosed by Brady’s camp.

  33. “If Brady does get an injunction and ultimately loses the case, he would have to serve the suspension later in the season or even in the playoffs should the Patriots advance that far this season.”

    That would make for some epic drama if he lost his case on the eve of the playoffs! 😀

  34. Good luck Tommy. You had the chance to prove your ‘innocence’ and destroyed the only piece of evidence out there. Now whether innocent or not you blatantly interfered with the investigation that your EMPLOYER has every right to conduct and discipline you for if non-compliant.

    THAT’S what you’re suspended four games for. So to all the Patriot crybabies out there that want to point to the Wells investigation and every other loophole they think they can find, just remember he’s part of the players association that voted this rule in.

    ZERO chance of him winning anything in court, but I do love that he’s dragging this out, as it will only make the disdain for him that much greater. His arrogance has finally come back to bite him. Shame….you hate to see it. You really do

  35. He destroyed his phone to hide his guilt. The guy wasn’t called The Deflator because he was fat. He didn’t steal the bag of ball out of the refs locker room because he wanted to go pee with them. Cheater. All four championships are tainted forever. The debate is over.

  36. Please tell me something. Why would Brady (as stated in the Wells report) give a highlighted copy of the ball pressure rules to the refs before games stating that he wants them inflated to the minimum allowed pressure if he was just going to break the rule anyways? Wouldn’t you steer way clear of that? And yet still no one is talking about the 75% of Colts balls that were under the legal limit. The fact is they also never re-inflated the Colts balls so they played the rest of the game with illegal balls. I know this doesn’t fit their narrative. The cell phone is a red herring, that fact that it is gone has no bearing on the case. Brady wasn’t giving it up and the NFL had no subpoena power to get it.

  37. RegisHawk says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:42 PM
    Apparently, the guy who didn’t know destroying his phone would be viewed as part of a cover-up doesn’t know they can subpoena the phone data directly from the phone company itself. Here’s one I’m *hoping* they leak…so many others could go down as a result (lookin’ at you, Belichick)…

    Apparently you don’t either!!!!

    In federal court THEY CANT AND WILL NOT subpoena his phone

    It’s not a criminal or civil case.

  38. Boohoo Tommy. Boohoo. Now we get to watch his feeble efforts to maintain image and rep as he “authorizes” the NFLPA to beg to be on the socket of a judge goofy enough to care about Tom Brady’s ridiculous appeal

  39. The telephone company does NOT have records of text messages sent.

    Verizon is the only one of the top four carriers that retains text message content, however, and it keeps that for three to five DAYS. Call detail records, meanwhile, are retained for one year by Verizon, five years for T-Mobile (two years for pre-paid), five to seven years for AT&T, and 18 to 24 months for Sprint.

    So his phone was the only source for those messages and that is why he destroyed the phone.

  40. Brady, I heard Alex Rodriguez is trying to call you and tell you this path is not worth it but apparently you have a new phone number.

  41. Here’s a hint maybe your lawyers didn’t give you: Destroying the cell phone at the heart of this matter probably won’t look good to a federal court. Please don’t fight this. Just take the punishment and move on, and end the long national nightmare known as Deflategate. Please.

  42. demolition510 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:44 PM
    The other players should step up and be like like YO NFLPA, I DONT WANT MY DUES PAYING FOR THIS STUPID CASE.

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    Um, the NFLPA is there for ALL dues paying members!

  43. Talk about clogging up our legal system with a bunch of crap that just isn’t all that important in the grand scheme of things. At least the lawyers are happy.

  44. Tommy remember this, the NFL and Federal Court are totally different. You can refuse handing over the cell phone and the texts, etc., etc. all you want to the NFL. BUT, the judge can subpoena them. If the judge wants he gets them, he gets them. If he asks you a question you have to say the truth. He is higher up on the food chain than you are.

    Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

  45. RegisHawk says:Jul 28, 2015 4:42 PM

    Apparently, the guy who didn’t know destroying his phone would be viewed as part of a cover-up doesn’t know they can subpoena the phone data directly from the phone company itself. Here’s one I’m *hoping* they leak…so many others could go down as a result (lookin’ at you, Belichick)…
    __________________________________
    Yeah. I’m pretty sure Brady has a smart team who would notify him of this. S0, Belichick isn’t “going down”. He’ll remain the greatest coach of all time.

  46. Read the report turns out Brady gave over 2 phones.

    ” It consisted of two phones used by Brady from spring of 2014 to November 14.With respect to the first phone , Mr, Maryman conducted a review of SMS MMS messages.”

    So whats going on here?

  47. I’m sorry, but I’m confused here. Was Brady suspended four games for deflating footballs or non-cooperation? Destroying a phone=|=cheating. Period. Suspicious activity=|= cheating. Goodell and company only have vague, out of context text messages–that important little fact is still true. They still cannot prove balls were deflated at all!

  48. LOL destroyed evidence? Sorry all you barristers out there, but this isn’t a courtroom. The “evidence” as it were, would be on other phones anyway. No way the keystone cops..aka…NFL gets my cell phone.

    Goodell must go.

    A Packer Fan

  49. The destroyed phone thing is just spin control by the NFL. In a court of law it doesn’t matter. He’s not required to give up his phone, so whether he had it in his pocket and said no, left it at home, smashed it with a sledgehammer, or had it fired into orbit is irrelevant, and furthermore, it’s not the issue. The NFL wants to draw attention away from the majorly flawed Wells Report and the severe punishment with no precedent, and similar ball tampering offenses by other teams were shrugged off in the past. Brady’s actual case will stand a very good chance in federal court.

  50. Admit it Cheater Tommy, Belicheat and you suck ass Chowdabreath Patriot fans, your team has been cheating for over a decade and everyone in the NFL knew it. You’ve been caught red handed twice now. Take your punishment you whiney babies!

  51. This just in!

    Tom Brady and NFL PA to employ the CHEWBACCA DEFENSE!!! Who can stand against them????

    LOL

  52. BTW, text messages are not “saved” on any server by any carrier. They would only be able to be retrieved…as it were….for a very short period of time. There is no way to get them other than on the recipients or senders phone, unless they do what I do and that’s delete the threads as they end.

    This is gigantically stupid.

    A Packer Fan

  53. seems like a slam dunk lawsuit for Brady and the NFLPA

    whats this crap of destruction of evidence??

    Goodell cites the destruction of his phone as the catalyst for upholding the suspension.

    I’m pretty sure in employment law, AN EMPLOYEE HAS NO OBLIGATION TO DISCLOSE PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS TO HIS EMPLOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Am i the only one who gets this??

    the fact that goodell is ‘citing’ this surely has the nfl breaking employment law!!!!

  54. Tom,
    Alex here, man don’t be a fool you see what it got me just go ahead and come clean take your four games and move on with your career. but if you continue to fight it can only get worst for you, I’ve been branded as a cheater no i can’t get that stain off , you really dont want that brother.

  55. The NFL is going to get run out of court. There is not 1 piece of single concrete evidence, you know the texts the NFL has from the 2 equipment guys, that Tom Brady ordered them to deflate below the legal limit.

    Their process is a sham and Brady and his attorney will destroy the corrupt NFL. Brady destroying his phone is irrelevant and proves nothing, since they haf the texts on the other phones

  56. bostonian13 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:41 PM

    I’ve said before it and I’ll say it again — the comments on this site are super bipolar. One minute it’s, “GO BRADY, screw you Goodell!” The next is, “Brady is a cheater bhahah. Take that Pats fans!!” I don’t get it….I bet that most of the commenters aren’t that ignorant but how much of you guys actually believed Goodell and the NFL would reduce the suspension?? Brady taking this court was known since the moment this hunt began. Again, there is NO REASON why a grown man should hand over his property over for an invention about how much footballs weigh. Why they needed Brady’s phone when they had the phones of others is beyond me.
    —————————————-
    You make good points on how people hate Goodell. It’s true. However, although many of us do hate Goodell doesn’t change the fact that there was an issue that was brought to his attention. There was an investigation and even though it lacked a lot of substance there were still evidence that the alleged action happened. Brady was asked for his cell phone. He refused to turn it over. Now, he destroyed it knowing he was going to let the NFLPA take it to court. Sorry, but there’s a reason why he would destroy a phone that could have damaging evidence against him. He can say he destroys every phone when he gets a new one. I get that. However, why destroy one that may show he’s innocent knowing this would most likely go to court? Sorry, but that doesn’t add up right.

  57. Cheater Tommy can’t take his punishment like a man. What a punk! Just admit it Chowdabreaths your team has been cheating since Belicheat and Cheater Tommy got there!

  58. shadywarrior says:
    Jul 28, 2015 5:13 PM

    The destroyed phone thing is just spin control by the NFL. In a court of law it doesn’t matter. He’s not required to give up his phone, so whether he had it in his pocket and said no, left it at home, smashed it with a sledgehammer, or had it fired into orbit is irrelevant, and furthermore, it’s not the issue. The NFL wants to draw attention away from the majorly flawed Wells Report and the severe punishment with no precedent, and similar ball tampering offenses by other teams were shrugged off in the past. Brady’s actual case will stand a very good chance in federal court.
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    If the cell phone could be used as evidence a federal court has every right to summons the cell phone which would force the owner to provide it or be charged with contempt. Why would Brady destroy a phone knowing this would be going to court if he was innocent and it had no damaging evidence against him. Any reasonable person that is innocent would want to provide all evidence to prove innocence. Not destroy something.

  59. and the hole he’s digging gets deeper and deeper. He should back off, remain quiet and try to salvage what’s left of his tarnished and tainted career….,

  60. let’s get a few things straight about Boston:

    1. We invented cheating……..just ask the British, the Bulgers or the Kennedys.
    2. We view the rest of the country with disdain, and don’t care what you think.
    3. Even with the lost draft picks and suspension, we’re going 13-3 and winning the Super Bowl again

  61. Isn’t everyone disgusted with Brady. I would think even Pat’s fans are tired with his denials. Just move on.

  62. RegisHawk says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:42 PM
    Apparently, the guy who didn’t know destroying his phone would be viewed as part of a cover-up doesn’t know they can subpoena the phone data directly from the phone company itself. Here’s one I’m *hoping* they leak…so many others could go down as a result (lookin’ at you, Belichick)…

    ——

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure phone companies only hold text data for 90 days typically. Subpoena all you want but the evidence more than likely died with his phone.

    Now the other phones are another story…

  63. Maybe he had pictures of another supermodel on his phone that he didn’t want his wife to see. He did leave one supermodel for another.

  64. Hmm…I’m confused…was Brady suspended for deflating the ball, having others deflate the ball, knowing about others deflating the ball, not cooperating with the “investigation”, or destroying evidence???

    This is nothing more than the NFL trying to gain some leverage and get this thing settled…not going to court. Unfortunately, all this will accomplish is tick off Brady et al to the point there is no possible settlement and Goodell and the NFL idiots will fry. Goodell and the NFL has not even been consistent with WHY they suspended Brady….how can so many be so stupid?

  65. His phone. He can do whatever HE decides with it. Can’t uphold an appeal by claiming ” He destroyed HIS phone”. I can burn my car on my property, right?

  66. Disappointed in Brady but it doesn’t change that the league has also made a lot of wrong moves as well.
    ———————————-

    So now the Patri*ts’ phrase for Cheating is “wrong moves.” Try and color coat it all you want, CHEATING IS CHEATING.

    Patri*ts fans are delusional

    Best Regards

  67. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure phone companies only hold text data for 90 days typically. Subpoena all you want but the evidence more than likely died with his phone.

    If that’s true, then it explains why Don Ye waited so long to inform the League, which can only put them in a worse position. Looks like Brady’s best moves at this point:

    a) Come clean, own up to it, apologize and serve the suspension.
    b) Retire.

    In addition, I’m expecting the team to exercise the clause that converts his base salary to bonus: When a player is suspended, only their base salary is recouped by the league (which is why Hardy’s money is all in roster bonus).

  68. Looking forward to seeing you in court Tom!!! NFL lawyers are requesting the Court issue subpoenas to JJ & JM as I type this!! Next, they will be requesting text message & calling records from your cell phone’s service provider. Oh, minor detail…you need to expect to testify under oath.

  69. This whole thing has gotten out of hand and is a complete pain in the ass at this point. I’m a Pats fan but I don’t like bringing up old stuff that happen like most people do and I am not one for pointing fingers at others. No matter what decision or what outcome there is I will always be on the Pats and Brady side like I have going on 6 years now as a fan of the organization and I don’t even live in Massachusetts. The decision is surprising to me but At the same time it isn’t. The public image won’t change no matter how much people want it to happen you just can’t force it. But what isn’t surprising is this going to court as this was bound to happen. I don’t care what happens at this point but I hope the outcome is in Brady’s favor

  70. well it’s nice to see Tom finally showing his true colors…mr I’m so humble, and it’s all about the game and the team is showing that it’s really all about him. instead of taking his punishment like a man Toms deciding to do what’s best for him in his opinion. He should just take the punishment and do what’s best for his team. I’ve said all along that this guy was a sham and a phony and that humble routine was just an act. Now after the courts throw out his suit the NFL should pull a pete rose and send a clear message to the NFL and Brady and ban mr cheater from the NFL forever. Sorry Pats fans but his destroying the phone shows a clear intent of hiding something and this guy needs a huge asterx next to his nfl profile.

  71. His phone. He can do whatever HE decides with it. Can’t uphold an appeal by claiming ” He destroyed HIS phone”. I can burn my car on my property, right?
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    Yes…..you can “burn your car on your property” and what a colorful analogy that is…….and you can also grasp at straws…..

    Patri*ts fans are Delusional

    Best Regards

  72. Not really sure what is wrong with pointing out that at the time TB destroyed his phone (on/about March 6), the NFL was withholding the pressure measurements from the AFCCG from the Patriots. This was not provided to the Pats until March 23.

    Somebody apparently doesn’t like this, because my post was removed.

  73. NFLPA filing their appeal in Minnesota???? I guess they couldn’t file in labour supporting Sweden? This is going to be really great. We can see Belicheat, Kraft, the 2 stooge ball boys all put under oath along with Brady himself. If the courts find new evidence can the league extend the suspension? Either way Brady and the Pats look like complete tools and Brady will forever be looked at as a fraud when he could have simply owned it and moved on.

  74. profootball13 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 6:01 PM
    His phone. He can do whatever HE decides with it. Can’t uphold an appeal by claiming ” He destroyed HIS phone”. I can burn my car on my property, right?
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    Yes…..you can “burn your car on your property” and what a colorful analogy that is…….and you can also grasp at straws…..

    Patri*ts fans are Delusional

    Best Regards

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Look, it’s that little coward Michael David Smith trolling again.

    Signs his craven posts with “Best Regards” every time, like he is being polite and respectful. Then he goes and removes posts from those who point out his actions.

    Stand up, big guy. For once.

    Best Regards

  75. @profootball13 Not every football fans a saint (not the team) you know. Not all fans on the Pats are delusional some seek the truth some don’t. You don’t have to like them I could care less like most people who love the Pats and will stick by them. If you don’t like it sucks to be you

  76. @ redsghost says: Jul 28, 2015 5:55 PM

    His phone. He can do whatever HE decides with it. Can’t uphold an appeal by claiming ” He destroyed HIS phone”. I can burn my car on my property, right?
    __________________________________

    Yes, he can do what ever he wants to with his property. That is his right & was his choice. Choices have repercussions. And per the CBA, it’s within the rights of the Commissioner to request to see his phone…and, per the CBA, it’s within the rights of the Commissioner to suspend Brady for not cooperating with the request.

    Something worth considering, Brady has been suspended for “Not Cooperating with the Investigation”. So, if something additional proving his involvement is found within the discovery of the legal cases, does that mean he could still be suspended for activity separate from the Non-Cooperation suspension?? :o)

  77. dumbaseinstien says:
    Jul 28, 2015 5:58 PM

    Looking forward to seeing you in court Tom!!! NFL lawyers are requesting the Court issue subpoenas to JJ & JM as I type this!! Next, they will be requesting text message & calling records from your cell phone’s service provider. Oh, minor detail…you need to expect to testify under oath.

    ++++++++++

    Roger-Todger will get bounced in Manhattan – filing suit to enforce its own ruling? Isn’t that saying that the NFL cannot manage internal discipline effectively?

    JM and JJ will not be testifying or be deposed or anything else.

  78. If he is called to testify and he will, he will have to swear to tell the truth. Others will have to agree to fall on their swords to help Brady out.

  79. Brady, you do realize since you are under suspension you can’t play until there is a ruling from the federal court and that could take up a good portion of the season…not too wise!

  80. “The fact that the NFL would resort to basing a suspension on a smoke screen of irrelevant text messages instead of admitting that they have all of the phone records they asked for is a new low, even for them, but it does nothing to correct their errors,” the statement asserts. “The NFLPA will appeal this outrageous decision on behalf of Tom Brady.”

  81. I am not a Patriots fan, but feel Brady was railroaded. The Wells report actually exonerates Brady, by demonstrating the Colt Balls deflated by the same PSI as the Patriot balls

    The one person who admitted to tampering with the balls during the AFC championship game was not even fined….The Colt equipment manager used a gauge to measure the PSI of the Pat ball during the first half….why did he escape being fined or suspended for tampering ?

    Brady is taking this to federal court because he is innocent of the charges. He is not a fool and it would be foolish to commit perjury and expect others to commit perjury (the ball boy and equipment manager will most likely be called to testify)

    From the Wells report, the ball boy appeared to dislike Brady. Why would he perjure himself ?

    remember, Wells claims there was a conspiracy of 3 individuals. If Brady was guilty , they would have caved by now.

  82. Sorry but I wouldn’t want to give up my phone if I was a celebrity, who the hell knows what’s on there that he doesn’t want anyone to see that’s not related to the case.

    The problem with Roger is that he’s inconsistent in his use of “evidence”.

    He cites Brady destroying his phone but he doesn’t watch/ignores/doesn’t want the tapes in regards to Ray Rice. With the Saints he has a “mountain of evidence” that in the ends proves to be hearsay from two bitter fired employees.

    At this point he has no credibility as an arbitrator.

  83. Brady is taking this to federal court because he is innocent of the charges. He is not a fool and it would be foolish to commit perjury and expect others to commit perjury (the ball boy and equipment manager will most likely be called to testify)
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    Then why did he trash the phone?

    “Undercover” Patri*ts fans are also Delusional

    Best Regards

  84. flash1287 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 5:03 PM
    RegisHawk says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:42 PM
    Apparently, the guy who didn’t know destroying his phone would be viewed as part of a cover-up doesn’t know they can subpoena the phone data directly from the phone company itself. Here’s one I’m *hoping* they leak…so many others could go down as a result (lookin’ at you, Belichick)…

    Apparently you don’t either!!!!

    In federal court THEY CANT AND WILL NOT subpoena his phone

    It’s not a criminal or civil case.
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    Federal court can subpoena any damn thing they want. Not sure where you get the idea that they can’t. If the judge decides the material in questions is pertinent to the case. You will need to comply with a court order to produce.

  85. @profootball13 Not every football fans a saint (not the team) you know. Not all fans on the Pats are delusional some seek the truth some don’t. You don’t have to like them I could care less like most people who love the Pats and will stick by them. If you don’t like it sucks to be you.
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    So you don’t care that your team has been caught, multiple times now, Cheating??

    It’s not that I don’t like the Patri*ts. I hate Cheaters.

    As above stated, Patri*ts fans are Delusional.

    Best Regards

  86. “The fact that the NFL would resort to basing a suspension on a smoke screen of irrelevant text messages instead of admitting that they have all of the phone records they asked for is a new low
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    And yet another example of a delusional Patri*ts fan…..

    Best Regards

  87. Oh good…I’m glad that Brady chose to go this legal route rather than handling over his phone at the beginning of all of this. My tax dollars at work.

    But since this is going to court now, aren’t Brady’s texts that were out of reach now in play? Seems like the NFL did not have the legal standing to subpoena phone records for an in house ruling, but a federal case should have that reach.

    If that is the case, Brady is only making it worse for himself.

    Also, won’t they stay the suspension until the ruling comes down? If that’s the case I hope the ruling comes just before the post season starts.

  88. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I’ve never been a Pats fan and I’ve never had Brady on my fantasy team. But at the end of the day I would have more respect for him if he would just take the four games and support young Jimmy.

  89. @profootball13 You keep saying they were caught multiple times doing something. Spygate they admited to, but can you honestly name something else that happen before this dumb incident.

    P.S. the formations in the Playoffs don’t count due to the fact they were legal at the time if you think about bringing that up

  90. billytodd2013blbaad says:

    Sorry Pats fans but his destroying the phone”

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    Don’t you mean, Sorry Pats fans but his destroying HIS phone. His not The.

  91. Can you name something other than Spygate and before this. I stated that I could care less if YOU don’t like them so you might have been delusional for a moment there wether you think they are Cheaters or not. Can you please name something since you seem to know so much?

  92. profootball13 says:

    Yes…..you can “burn your car on your property” and what a colorful analogy that is…….and you can also grasp at straws…..
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    Ok, just wondering if TB had any rights.

  93. truthdispensary says:

    And per the CBA, it’s within the rights of the Commissioner to request to see his phone.
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    To request? Yes. To demand and then punish when he doesn’t give up his privacy rights? No, the CBA does NOT allow for that.

  94. profootball13 says:

    “Then why did he trash the phone?”
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    Seriously? Big stars don’t regularly want the newest, best product out there? This phone had over 10,000 texts!! I’d say it’s time for TB to get a new one as well. He can afford it, right? It’s HIS right to get a new one, right? He doesn’t need the NFL’s permission to get a new one, right?

  95. Rarely has anyone fallen from so high to so low so fast.

    Sadly…the “Golden Boy” turned out to be made of nothing more than fool’s gold.

    (You’ve got no one to blame but yourself, Tommy Terrific. No wonder your owner and coach are distancing themselves from you. After all, it’s the Patriots Way.)

  96. Dunston, I enjoy your posts. But I don’t see one thing good that can come out of this going to court, even if he wins, he still loses. He kept JJ and JM out of his appeal, he won’t be able to keep them out of the court case. He can’t control what they say. From reading the ruling, they appear to be Brady’s accusors. But I did read it on a cell phone.

  97. dukeearl says:

    Federal court can subpoena any damn thing they want. Not sure where you get the idea that they can’t. If the judge decides the material in questions is pertinent to the case. You will need to comply with a court order to produce.
    ====================
    Incorrect. The Federal court will rule based on the merits and evidence (or a severe lack thereof) of the case. They will NOT perform a second investigation for the NFL. The court is there to provide a ruling, NOT to correct the NFL’s mistakes.

  98. Just because he destroyed the phone doesn’t mean the texts are gone forever. I am assuming that they can be retrieved from the phone company’s records by subpoena. So we know it is technically possible to retrieve the relevant information on the phone, but is it legally possible??? What say you Mr. Florio???

  99. Now that this is apparently going to Federal court it would be very cool if they subpoena Brady’s cell phone carrier and Pandora’s box get’s thrust wide open with details that no one ever knew existed.

    If anyone thinks that text messages are completely eradicated by destroying a phone this will be a rude awakening.

  100. Brady has nothing to lose going to court. He’s already guilty in the non-Pats fans’ opinion and Goodell’s.

    So, has the NFL requested Richard Sherman’s cell phone to investigate if he ever purchased that adderall? Or any other players who got off after testing positive to PEDs? Why is it that only Tom Brady is required to provide his cell phone or he’s guilty?

    Face it losers, the balls were not tampered with.

  101. unnamedxsource says:
    Jul 28, 2015 7:30 PM

    Just because he destroyed the phone doesn’t mean the texts are gone forever. I am assuming that they can be retrieved from the phone company’s records by subpoena. So we know it is technically possible to retrieve the relevant information on the phone, but is it legally possible??? What say you Mr. Florio???

    +++++++++

    Sure, it’s technically possible; legally, the question is moot.

    NFLPA/Brady’s suit will focus on the process followed by Goodell vis a vis the CBA process. Goodell’s functionaries will almost certainly try to bring in the phone, but will be rebuffed because they have no right to it.

    Announcing that Brady destroyed his phone (neglecting to mention that he provided 2 phones previously) is just raw meat for the haters. Taken in context, making this public is just another in the series of efforts the NFL has undertaken to entrap Brady.

    It is interesting to note that not only did the NFL fail to come clean about the phones provided, but also, there is no mention of the timing of their request for the phone (on/about March 6) in relation to the release of the AFCCG pressure data to the Patriots (March 23). From a certain point of view, that constitutes a further attempt to entrap.

  102. jocyn says:
    Jul 28, 2015 7:35 PM

    Now that this is apparently going to Federal court it would be very cool if they subpoena Brady’s cell phone carrier and Pandora’s box get’s thrust wide open with details that no one ever knew existed.

    If anyone thinks that text messages are completely eradicated by destroying a phone this will be a rude awakening.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Be careful what you wish for.

    In the best Emersonian tradition, if (a big if) access to Brady’s phone is authorized by a judge, Kessler/NFLPA/Brady will get access to Goodell’s, Vincent’s, Kensil’s, Bisciotti’s, Irsay’s, Grigson’s, Harbaugh’s, Pagano’s phones, plus half a million others I have left off for brevity.

    I really don’t think that haters are prepared for what is there.

  103. Tossing your cell phone away after 4 months, because he knew it was going to be looked at. Liar, cheat etc etc Tom Brady. I hope you dig yourself a huge hole that you cannot get out of. That’s a terrible thing to do, guilty as hell with your buddies from the locker room. Don’t worry about your reputation, because anyone other than Patriot fans, can’t stand you anyway. Cheater.

  104. limakey says:
    Jul 28, 2015 7:26 PM

    Dunston, I enjoy your posts. But I don’t see one thing good that can come out of this going to court, even if he wins, he still loses. He kept JJ and JM out of his appeal, he won’t be able to keep them out of the court case. He can’t control what they say. From reading the ruling, they appear to be Brady’s accusors. But I did read it on a cell phone.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    You obviously do not understand what the NFLPA/Brady’s suit will be based upon.

    The suit will allege that Goodell failed to adhere to the letter and spirit of due process as outlined in the CBA.

    The NFL is not going to be allowed to litigate a de novo case. Will not happen, and Goodell will lose in open court, perhaps squandering forever the privilege of hearing appeals for future NFL commissioners.

    The NFL’s filing is going to be laughed out of court in Manhattan. Appealing to a court to uphold it’s own decision? A judge will look at that and send them packing.

  105. Here is a question, when Brady was asked for all texts and emails, his response was that he would not because it would set a bad precedent for other players facing an investigation. Didn’t he again lie, knowing he had the cell phone destroyed?

  106. LOL @ Patriots fans. IT’S OVER, LOSERS! IT’S OVER.

    (I guess after your four month vigil, you have nothing left in the tank. You’re like drowning victims, clutching at anything and everything to save yourselves from your sinking ship. And make no mistake about it…YOU. ARE. DONE. NO ONE in the NFL believes a WORD out of your organization. NO ONE.)

  107. limakey says:
    Jul 28, 2015 7:53 PM

    Here is a question, when Brady was asked for all texts and emails, his response was that he would not because it would set a bad precedent for other players facing an investigation. Didn’t he again lie, knowing he had the cell phone destroyed?

    +++++++++++

    Here is a more important question:

    When the NFL/Wells demanded that Brady turn over his phone, knowing that they had no right to it, or the information on it whatsoever, knowing that the ESPN report regarding ball pressures being 2 psi or more below the limit was bogus, attempt to entrap Brady?

    That is a much more important question, one that haters like you continue to ignore.

  108. 4 games is too lenient. The hubris of Tom Brady is almost beyond understanding- it’s on the scale of a mythological character. He mocked the integrity of the game, and he needs to be taken away. He’s a smug, entitled jock who likely has gotten away with much, much more; there are leagues of suck-ups who would cover up any of his sins. Does anyone think that this is the first thing he’s ever done that isn’t above-board? That he suddenly decided to try going wrong after a lifetime of integrity? 4 games is shameful. And he can’t even accept that like a man.. because he isn’t a man. OK, he’s a man, but he’s a really lousy, piggish one.

  109. I’m not a Patriots fan. I hate them. I don’t like Brady either. He is a punk.

    But I HATE goodell.

    All I really want is goodell to be fired. Can someone please make that happen?

  110. Even if he didn’t destroy his phone, couldn’t he have just deleted the text and call histories, or are they stored in the phone like on a computer? I honestly don’t know. And even if he did call Belichick, it’s his head coach. That’s not out of the ordinary. (Somehow I don’t see Belichick texting.) Is it?

    Plus, while it doesn’t look good, it still doesn’t disprove the science or lack of actual evidence that the balls were tampered with for that game or the inconsistencies in the Wells Report or the blatant disregard of testimony in the Wells report or the disparity of punishments for similar offenses weather it’s for ball tampering (Carolina and Minnesota were issued warnings) or non cooperation (Favre was fined 50K, no suspension and SD was fined 20K for non cooperation).

    Weather you think something happened or not to the footballs or if Brady didn’t cooperate, the penalty to Brady and to the Patriots (even after Belichick and Kraft were exonerated) make no sense. Goodell looks like an idiot. The league not only lost 5 million on a crap report, how much are they gonna lose in a lawsuit simply to gain a small moral victory? I’ve read estimates that if this goes through the whole process, the trial could cost upwards of $10 million? Is $15 million worth all of this? Somehow I don’t think all 32 owners are on board.

    Goodell should have suspended the punishment to allow the league to monitor the footballs for one year taking weather into account in all conditions during the season. If the numbers from the AFCCG vary from the year long study, then the Pats and Brady punishments take effect immediately. If nothing is found, then all punishments are vacated.

    I find it funny how the league did not mention anything about taking weather into account for their new football protocol issued yesterday since that would imply that they screwed this all up in the first place.

  111. How in the Hell, is this that damned important? Brady has further incriminated Himself. Give it the Hell up. This should NEVER reach an actual court of law.

  112. GEEBUS CRIMINEY Pats apologist.. Brady should take his lashing for cheating, which he did, and move on. They will file an injunction which will likely fail. I hope it doesn’t so that he can be suspended in the middle of the season. DUMMY. Just take it and move on. Everyone outside of MASS knows what you did. #takeyurwhoopinlikeaman

  113. How about they settle it mano y mano? No lawyers. What does that mean?

    Eric, what does that mean?

    It means an academic decathlon. One day, ten events, testing all the knowledge one would gain in school. Brady vs Goodell.

  114. Skeldaddy, the NFL did not demand his cell phone. They requested it. Gave exceptional protection for his privacy. Even were allowing TB to choose what he turned over and they would accept it, no questions asked. Brady gave a moral and ethical response on why he would not comply. His destroying his cell phone goes against his moral stance.

  115. marcuswelby1 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 5:06 PM
    demolition510 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:44 PM
    The other players should step up and be like like YO NFLPA, I DONT WANT MY DUES PAYING FOR THIS STUPID CASE.

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    Um, the NFLPA is there for ALL dues paying members!

    10 4

    ****

    UMMMM, I know that. That doesn’t mean other players can’t or shouldn’t voice their concern over this stupid waste of money.

  116. Unfortunate for everyone that had July 31st and the over on a decision, anticipating the usual Friday afternoon news dump from the NFL.

    It sounds like from the legal side the NFL is going to have a difficult case proving this in court, regardless of how Brady’s cell phone smashing looks like.

  117. Tom destroyed his cell phone rather than turning it in for a rebate can be explained with the Ideal Gas Law.

    Ideal Gas Law = any air coming out of Brady’s mouth is a lie.

  118. RegisHawk says:
    Jul 28, 2015 4:42 PM

    Apparently, the guy who didn’t know destroying his phone would be viewed as part of a cover-up doesn’t know they can subpoena the phone data directly from the phone company itself. Here’s one I’m *hoping* they leak…so many others could go down as a result (lookin’ at you, Belichick)…

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    Hey genius…Brady will be the *plaintiff* in a lawsuit, not the defendant. His cell phone won’t even come into it.

  119. Why do people think they have a right to privacy over public broadcast/communications spectrums? You have a right to privacy within your own private domain, ie conversations in your home or words you write on your own paper or computer hard drive…but as soon as you transmit it in any way, it’s public. You are only fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Ask Alec Baldwin or Ed Snowden

  120. This whole mess is atrocious. Remember when baseball used to rule the summer? I can’t even name 10 baseball players under 35 years old. Can’t wait for NFL season to start.

  121. For you salty haters:

    Brady was never under oath before the appeal, and then he was under oath voluntarily. It probably went something like this:

    Goodell (or more likely, an underling): “Mr. Brady, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?”

    Brady: “I do.”

    Goodell: “I want your phone.”

    Kessler: “I object!!! Per the CBA, you are not allowed access to a player’s phone!!! This is another cheap fishing expedition!!!!”

    Brady: “I got this, I’ll answer. Truthfully, I don’t have the phone.”

    Goodell: “Why the [edited] not?”

    Brady: “I had it destroyed when I got a new one. It’s what people like me do.”

    Goodell: “WT [edited]?!?!?!? How come I don’t know about this?!?!?!?”

    Brady: “You see, when actual stars or celebrities get new phones, it is common practice to destroy the old, since any ass out there might try to get access to it, for the purposes of defamation of character.”

    Goodell: “transcriptionist?!?!?! Where the [edited] are you?!?!?! Ah, carp!!! – ‘O that he were here to write me down – an as…terisk’ ”+

    Brady: “I did ask my phone company to provide me with a spreadsheet of all the numbers to which I texted or received texts from. I text a lot, but really, there aren’t more than 100 total numbers or so…you can verify my spreadsheet with my carrier.”

    Goodell: “What?!?!?!? You expect my minio…office to do some actual thinking?!?!?!?!? Where’s Kensil? He’s the right guy for this job…”

    Brady: “You did say that you want a ‘fair and open’ process…”

    Goodell: “I think that you’ll find that what I meant by ‘fair and open’ is that as a ginger, I have fair skin and that since my mind is a sieve, everything passes through it, like an open flood gate…oh, wait…transcriptionist, don’t include that…”

    Kessler: “We’re through here…Roger…I look forward to our next meeting. Please arrive with your shorts about your ankles, you’ll find it easier to reel your junk…arguments…that way.”

    Goodell: “I’m on it…oh, wait…transcriptionist…”

    + See Much Ado About Nothing, Act IV, Scene II

  122. Brady is a liar and a cheat. Seems to be a recurring theme in the Patriots organization. Good thing he had an upstanding former teammate (Hernandez) to show him how to destroy evidence. And way to many pats fans have proven to be mouth breathers.

  123. His phone. He can do whatever HE decides with it. Can’t uphold an appeal by claiming ” He destroyed HIS phone”. I can burn my car on my property, right?
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    Burn your car with a dead body in it and let me know how that works out for you

  124. Why does Brady destroy his phones?

    Duhhh (1)

    Because he is TOM BRADY and he knows that if he doesn’t somewhere someone will get hold of the old one and figure out a way to get to the PRIVATE information on it and make it public.

    Duhhh (2)

    If he hadn’t destroyed the phone or phones in question and had turned them over to the NFL thought police, is there ANYONE out there naive enough to believe that his privacy would have been respected?

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