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Jim Turner’s lawyer accuses Ted Wells of giving NFL what it wanted

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NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has described the outcome of the league’s “independent” investigation of the Patriots as the client getting what the client wanted. Former Dolphins offensive line coach Jim Turner believes that’s not the first time this has happened.

In a press release issued Monday regarding Turner’s suit against Ted Wells and the Paul, Weiss law firm, Turner accuses Wells of “echo[ing] the NFL’s predetermined conclusion that [Jonathan] Martin was the innocent victim of bullying and harassment and ignored and mischaracterized what really occurred in the Dolphins locker room.”

(Patriots fans are currently sporting their shocked faces.)

Turner, through lawyer Peter Ginsberg, contends that the NFL’s investigation had more to do with responding to public pressure than getting to the truth, and that the NFL “could not afford to be perceived as insensitive or unwilling to take harassment seriously.”

Turner specifically claims that Wells and his firm “withheld and ignored key information from the final Report, including testimony and potential testimony of several former and current Dolphins players and coaches.” Turner contends that Wells and his firm “falsely accused [Turner] of helping to create the atmosphere that allowed bullying and harassment to happen.”

Said Ginsberg to close the press release: “The Defendants, reflecting the NFL’s and Commissioner Goodell’s mindset, ignored and simply did not care that they were sacrificing the reputations and careers of people like Jim Turner in order to fashion a public relations campaign designed solely to ‘protect the shield.’ It takes someone like Jim, with courage and conviction, to stand up against the NFL machine and its law firm hired guns.”

It indeed takes plenty of courage for Turner to do this, because filing a lawsuit definitely not one of the steps for getting back into the NFL. With more than a full year passed since Turner was fired by the Dolphins, that’s apparently not happening anyway. So why not fight back?

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69 Responses to “Jim Turner’s lawyer accuses Ted Wells of giving NFL what it wanted”
  1. marvsleezy says: Aug 10, 2015 4:30 PM

    How do you know what the client wanted? You really think the NFL wanted its championship team and most popular player to be found guilty? Owner is even friends with the commish!

  2. refswin says: Aug 10, 2015 4:30 PM

    You don’t say Jim? Sue ’em for about 5 mil, take the money Goodell gave them to frame and damage Tom Brady’s reputation.

  3. unbreakable02215 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:31 PM

    Is it me or does Ted Wells belong in a video game

  4. number4020115 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:32 PM

    And the NFL continues their slide into the slime and muck as the truth emerges in yet another “independent investigation”.
    What a joke….Goodell must go.

  5. rjpats says: Aug 10, 2015 4:33 PM

    Anyone who thinks Ted Wells is on the up and up hasn’t been paying attention

  6. nevyn49 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:33 PM

    Whenever Turner or his lawyer speaks up or puts out a release, I think the wrong side is suing for defamation.

    Waiting on the countersuit …

  7. N JAIL U MY HOE says: Aug 10, 2015 4:36 PM

    Cant be that hard to get a coaching gig.

  8. letsgobuffalo4 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:37 PM

    I think the whole ‘bullying’ thing was ridiculous. These are grown men. But the txts from Richie to Martin are very clear. He was bullying, i think its the NFL and it shouldnt matter, but in todays sensitive society it is what it is. But Richie cannot say he didnt cross the line with his comments. Its very clearly in texts, there is not doubt about that.

  9. jjb0811 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:37 PM

    Sue the NFL & Goodell too!

  10. Marshawn Lunch says: Aug 10, 2015 4:39 PM

    Such a lawyer.

  11. ibelievebrady says: Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM

    Goodell’s downfall will be he’s refusal to let a 3rd party hear the Brady appeal. It was either a power move against the NFLPA or a blatant attempt to prevent the public from seeing the truth. In either scenario, it definitely wasn’t the way to “get it right”

  12. kcchefs58 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM

    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.

  13. mike83ri says: Aug 10, 2015 4:41 PM

    Is anyone here surprised?

    The NFL is corrupt. The league office, run and managed by Goodell, is inept.

    If the commissioner of a league has no integrity, I cannot enjoyably follow it. For the first time in a decade, I opted not to watch the Hall of Fame game. Instead, I sat outside with friends toasting marshmallows by a campfire. It won’t be the last time, but I’ll change my tune immediately if a more competent management team is inserted.

  14. 12coltsfan12 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:41 PM

    need an innocent person framed?

    need someone dragged through the mud and railroaded?

    need to deflect attention at the cost of someone else’s reputation?

    Better Call Ted!

  15. jag1959 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:41 PM

    “Jim Turner’s lawyer accuses Ted Wells of giving NFL what it wanted”

    At this point shouldn’t it just be”Jim Turner’s lawyer STATES Ted Well$ gave the NFL what it wanted”?

  16. scmems07 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:41 PM

    Wells was completly wrong about Incognito and made him out to the be bad guy, Martin just wanted a way to go back home and his Lawyer mom exposed his relationship with Richie to do that. Everyone knew that from get go.

    But Wells is 100% correct when it comes to the cheating Patriots dynasty.

  17. gtodriver says: Aug 10, 2015 4:42 PM

    The only reason that Wells keeps that mustache is that without it he’d look like Louis Litt’s brother (Suits show on the USA network).

    Louis is always screwing things up…

  18. amadorcountyca says: Aug 10, 2015 4:43 PM

    Absolute power leads to absolute corruption. Godell claims CBA lets him do whatever he wants. He actually believes that.

    Man is an absolute tool. His predecessors knew how to wield that power. He clearly doesn’t.

    His arrogance will lead to his downfall. NFL will rue the Brady case because of the transparency that will result.

  19. clashpoint says: Aug 10, 2015 4:43 PM

    “I feel your pain.”
    – The New Orleans Saints

  20. scottbrowning2 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:44 PM

    Here is to hoping for more discovery and more transparency. There is no longer any question that the NFL is fundamentally corrupt. Lets expose it for what it is so we can get back to enjoying football games.

  21. mmack66 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:45 PM

    marvsleezy says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:30 PM

    How do you know what the client wanted? You really think the NFL wanted its championship team and most popular player to be found guilty? Owner is even friends with the commish!
    —————————–

    Probably by reading the final report, which was at odds with what people actually testified to, much like the *Framegate Wells Report.

    What other conclusion can rational people make after seeing all of the evidence?

    If the NFL had wanted the truth, they would have stopped the sham right after they figured out that temperature affects the PSI reading of a football, and done some testing at some games.

  22. lgw91s says: Aug 10, 2015 4:48 PM

    It really isn’t that tough to get the results the league wants for any investigation.
    1) Offer an insane amount of money, along with assurance of additional appointments, as long as the results will paint the NFL in a better PR picture.
    2) If there is no evidence of any wrongdoing, gather everyone’s emails, text messages, answering machines, and anything spoken during a church confession. Something will stick to the wall.

  23. cma1973 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:49 PM

    Just wait until Brady sues him for 250 million. That should make for a very angry press conference.

  24. tigerlilac says: Aug 10, 2015 4:50 PM

    The difference with the Brady case is that the NFL is trying to change the interpretation of the CBA to allow Goodell to virtually call anything he wants “conduct detrimental” so he can suspend players and be a dictator as opposed to someone who is limited by due process.

    What Goodell did to Sean Payton was particularly evil. Both Payton and Brady were convicted not of the wrong doing itself but allegedly being aware of it in advance (with no hard evidence). In both cases, Goodell swung for the fences with the targets he cherry picked. These high level targets and the over-the-top penalties were intended to make Goodell (and the owners) look strong to the public.

  25. clelek05 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:50 PM

    That interview with Adam Schein is a must hear. OMG! Wells is so corrupt. Free Brady now.

  26. welltobefair says: Aug 10, 2015 4:50 PM

    “Protecting the shield” has become the most laughable phrase used by the NFL. What a bunch of phonies.

    Turner should win this one easily.

  27. weepingjebus says: Aug 10, 2015 4:52 PM

    Goodell has been faxing Turner’s picture to the police all afternoon, to let them know that Turner might do something to one of his mansions.

  28. bassplucker says: Aug 10, 2015 4:54 PM

    Thursday night can’t come fast enough.

  29. clam says: Aug 10, 2015 4:54 PM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM
    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.
    _______________________________
    What did the NFL gain from leaking false PSI reports and failing to correct them for 4 months? What did Roger get for claiming during Brady appeal, Brady ONLY claimed he talked to jastremski on the phone about “super bowl footballs”. When in fact, the transcripts show numerous times Brady said they talked about the deflated footballs and super bowl balls?

  30. wannabeqb says: Aug 10, 2015 4:55 PM

    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    ———————————

    It’s been answered, you just choose not to listen. Goodell is terrified of looking weak publicly. Sentencing Brady to life for a parking ticket, is his way of saying “I’m still the Enforcer, I’ll even take down the big bad Patriots.” It’s pandering to jealous fans and owners to distract from his failures.

  31. ibelievebrady says: Aug 10, 2015 4:55 PM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM
    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.

    —————————————————

    Wasn’t the intent at the start but within days Deflategate blew up. If Brady and the Pats are innocent and really did nothing, then who’s at fault for the Deflategate mess? The NFL! It’s them or the Pats.

  32. nfl1818 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:55 PM

    Shocked. Simply shocked.

    Pats fan

  33. a072455 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:56 PM

    Mike is correct…. I’m a Pats fan since the Buffalo/Pats First play the first ever AFL person game. I am utterly Shock Turner would go after Ted Wells who ooze Honesty and Integrity…. Utterly Shocked!

  34. fetts81 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:56 PM

    Mark Cuban was right… This league is going to be yesterday’s news in 5-8 years once Brady, manning, and Rodgers are gone. No organization can continue to operate like this with long term
    Success. Thx for nothing Goodell

  35. mmack66 says: Aug 10, 2015 4:57 PM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM

    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.
    ——————————–

    You’re asking rational, for the most part, people to try and figure out why Emperor Goodell does the stupid things he does.

    He must like getting embarrassed in Federal court.

  36. kamthechancellor says: Aug 10, 2015 4:57 PM

    The thing is that the Pats are so fast to cover up their shadiness that they really didn’t need to. That’s what looks guilty from the outside. Don’t ferret the balls away right before the beginning of a championship game (because your equipment guy has the bladder of an 80 yr old woman apparently) and expect people to believe you. Do you honestly believe this is a witch hunt? That no one did anything and this is a total frame job and fabrication by the NFL? Not very likely. There’s no motive for the league office to arbitrarily cut off their nose to spite their face. I’ll never believe that. Especially considering that Kraft and Goodell were chums and Brady is the face of the league. As for the Dolphins: that was bs the entire time.

  37. harrisonhits2 says: Aug 10, 2015 5:01 PM

    “How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.”

    It doesn’t benefit the league at all. What is does benefit is the human beings who work for the league and the Colts who were former Jet’s employees and loathe the Pats. It benefits the human beings in the form of Harbaugh and Pagano in that their teams will have an advantage this year if Brady gets suspended. It benefits drunken drug addict Irsay whose pathetically soft team can’t beat the Pats.

  38. dolphincritic says: Aug 10, 2015 5:08 PM

    I can’t believe that these high paid attorneys have nothing better to do than tweet and post this adolescent crap. Both sides need to agree on a mediator; preferably a federal magistrate. Both sides need to sit down and discuss what they are willing to give up in order to achieve their ultimate goals. Both sides may be allot closer than we think once you eliminate Brady’s and Goodell’s large egos.

    If a compromise is not obtainable, then give the union an injunction to stop any NFL punishment of Brady until the trial is over. If it gets done in December, well so-be-it! Maybe compromise isn’t such a bad way to go!

  39. steelerben says: Aug 10, 2015 5:19 PM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM
    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The NFL jumped on the possible scandal with the Patriots organization because it took the Domestic Violence story line out of the media. They thought they had a juicy nugget that would fit into the “New England are cheaters” narrative and easily distract the public. When it turned out the evidence for this was shaky at best, the NFL shifted gears and instead of backing down and admitting error, and therefore looking weak in front of the public again, went in for a report that was far from independent from Ted Wells, based upon science that was far from objective. They purchased results that would allow them to save face, made a backroom deal with Kraft to let the team punishments stick for a reduced Brady suspension, but Brady refused to play along with the sham because he knows he is an all time great and doesn’t deserve to have that tarnished to get the NFL out of hot water.

  40. raidernation210 says: Aug 10, 2015 5:38 PM

    You have to believe that there was more to spy gate then what we know. Goodell no doubt destroyed the tapes that had them taping other teams in the super bowl and then they continued their cheating ways and when they hot caught again and lied and destroyed evidence, Goodell had enough and can you blame him.

  41. fearthehoody says: Aug 10, 2015 5:41 PM

    Raider fan, Go back to the 80’s-90’s when you guys were relevant

  42. sbaltimore says: Aug 10, 2015 5:54 PM

    Wells REALLY needs to get rid of that ridiculous porn stache. It makes him look smarmy, which in turn makes him look guilty.

  43. cebert44 says: Aug 10, 2015 5:55 PM

    Please answer this.If the NFL wasn’t after the Pats, Why let the game
    go on. Suppose the colts had showed up and it was a close game.The NFL knew before game wait till kick off then act.

    They wanted a stink and they got it.

    4 games no Pitt no cowboys two strongest owners

  44. raidernation210 says: Aug 10, 2015 6:04 PM

    fearthehoody says:
    Aug 10, 2015 5:41 PM
    Raider fan, Go back to the 80’s-90’s when you guys were relevant

    —————————————————

    They were also relevant in the 60’s and 70’s, but a front running loser like yourself wouldn’t know that.

    And the patriots only became relevant because of a horrible call and cheating. I will take my organization any day of the week

  45. dandeman19 says: Aug 10, 2015 6:12 PM

    Oh and by the way we overcame that call in our loss to the Jets the won the division that year we were the wildcard

  46. unoduotres says: Aug 10, 2015 6:14 PM

    I wish Jim Turner well. It is disgraceful that the NFL Commissioner can employ Wells to defame a Coach and loose his means to support his family

  47. jaxxboss says: Aug 10, 2015 6:28 PM

    Taping a sb walkthru has already been disproved. Videotaping the other team wasnt illegal until the year the pats got fined, so past taping didnt matter. You could say they destroyed the tapes that were legally made.
    I wonder if you people spout this drivel to just troll here or if you are really truly that stupid and believe the garbage you cry about.

  48. ivanpavlov0000 says: Aug 10, 2015 7:15 PM

    Jim Turner deserved to be fired. People seem to forget that the Dolphin’s situation extended beyond Jonathan Martin. There was a lot of bad behavior and Jim Turner was right in the middle of it.

    It amazes me that you guys are so willing to tolerate Richie Incognito’s assault on a female volunteer at a charity event or the way he treated the team’s assistant trainer. Jim Turner was just as bad as Incognito.

    What this all really proves is that some people don’t grow and don’t learn. And the NFL does not need those people.

  49. truthprofessor says: Aug 10, 2015 7:25 PM

    I don’t know much about Jim Turner, but I do know that if Ted Wells told me that the sky was blue, I still ought to take a look at it myself. Because lies are his norm.

  50. kenmasters34 says: Aug 10, 2015 7:37 PM

    All of this, everything, could have been avoided if that false 2lbs nonsense wasnt leaked.. or if the NFL corrected the story immediately to 0.4lbs.

    Instead they let a false narrative sit there for 4 months.

  51. daytontriangles says: Aug 10, 2015 8:13 PM

    As a Patriots fan, my initial reaction is to have sympathy for the Dolphins, another team screwed over by Ted Wells and Goodell.

    Then I think of Don Shula and my sympathy magically vanishes.

  52. aljack88 says: Aug 10, 2015 9:00 PM

    raidernation210 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 6:04 PM
    fearthehoody says:
    Aug 10, 2015 5:41 PM
    Raider fan, Go back to the 80’s-90’s when you guys were relevant

    —————————————————

    They were also relevant in the 60’s and 70’s, but a front running loser like yourself wouldn’t know that.

    And the patriots only became relevant because of a horrible call and cheating. I will take my organization any day of the week

    =================================
    You are obviously too young to remember the 76 debacle, I mean playoff game between the Raiders and Pats; the “Ben Drieth” bowl. Al must have taken good care of him. The only way the Raiders could beat the Pats that year.

  53. bigoldred says: Aug 10, 2015 9:08 PM

    I have a theory as to why Goodell went after the Pats. It’s called “Divide and Conquer”. If he can body slam the Pats, he can take down any team. So owners are unlikely to rebel against him.

  54. joker65 says: Aug 10, 2015 9:10 PM

    You have to believe that there was more to spy gate then what we know. Goodell no doubt destroyed the tapes that had them taping other teams in the super bowl and then they continued their cheating ways and when they hot caught again and lied and destroyed evidence, Goodell had enough and can you blame him.

    ____

    Good story bro.

  55. quinzze says: Aug 10, 2015 9:47 PM

    Raider fan do you think Belichick would hand over incriminating evidence if he had any? You do know the Patriots handed over the tapes the NFL didn’t come in and seize there video collection. Do some research before you post dumb comments. And if your such a “Raider” fan you would also know that the team had a big sign when you walked into the facility that said “CHEATING IS ENCOURAGED”. Look it up it’s all true.

  56. ring5for50 says: Aug 10, 2015 10:10 PM

    Well$ needs to shave some of the mustache off and just leave the middle part right under his nose.

    That would make a lovely picture with Goodell next to him.

  57. gametime201 says: Aug 10, 2015 10:32 PM

    weepingjebus says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:52 PM
    Goodell has been faxing Turner’s picture to the police all afternoon, to let them know that Turner might do something to one of his mansions.

    ———————————————————-

    Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  58. pastabelly says: Aug 10, 2015 10:34 PM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 4:40 PM
    How does the NFL gain from suspending Brady and further tarnishing the reputation of the Pats organization?

    I have yet to see a decent answer to that question and it’s probably because there isn’t one.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I’ll give this one a shot because it’s a fair question.

    (1) Many in the NFL don’t like Bill Belichick. The Patriots have embarrassed some teams, especially the Colts by huge margins lately. The point is that people are sick of them and want to take them down.

    (2) Roger Goodell has heard it all from some owners and the media about being in Kraft’s pocket and he wants to show that’s not the case and he’s a tough guy. It deflects from his poor record on player discipline related to Rice and Peterson. What better way to prove you are a tough guy than to take down Tom Brady, even with no evidence. It plays well nationally.

    Goodell did not count on the national media and now Dowd turning on him after the transcripts got released. Goodell’s answer is to dig in even more. His hubris in not even offering Brady a settlement tells you all you need to know about the man. I suppose it’s easy to play to Patriots haters. There are enough out there. He staked out a popular position at the expense of Tom Brady.

  59. senatorblutarsky says: Aug 10, 2015 10:41 PM

    Maurice Smith is an idiot who is responsible for the current situation. The players would do well to impeach hit and lay a good ass-kickin’ on him.

  60. theheyseed says: Aug 10, 2015 11:11 PM

    The whole deflate gate thing was about publicity and it worked very well. Pats and Seahawks in the Superbowl was ho hum news to most of the NFL and not even on the radar for a regular citizen.
    BUT OMG the Pats cheated!!!
    for the last six months we have been hearing regular reports from talking heads that couldn’t tell a football from a frizbee. Pats PSI BALLS BALLS BALLS
    Wait till you see the promos for the games, REVENGE MATCH NOW IT’S PERSONAL!!!!
    it is all about money, slimey Goodell money, but it fills the seats and moves the needle on ratings.

  61. yardpenalty says: Aug 10, 2015 11:16 PM

    It’s clear Goodell’s Integrity is in question NOT the game.

  62. mark0226 says: Aug 11, 2015 12:00 AM

    I don’t really understand this line of thinking for either case, the Dolphins or the Patriots. Yes, in protecting the shield, the NFL needed to show the public that they were responsive to harassment or cheating. However, why would they care about the outcome? If they investigated and found that there was no harassment or cheating, they still get the brownie points for investigating. I suppose they could be accused of a cover-up if they found nothing, but I don’t really see that happening.

    In the Dolphins case, obviously something happened. They could have found that Martin was complicit and spared the reputations of Incognito and Turner. In fact, that outcome would probably even be better because instead of a team allowing a culture of harassment, it would be a single mentally unstable person. That would be a better “story’ for the shield.

    In the Patriots case, something happened also. Sorry, but the deflator isn’t because he wants to lose weight. At a minimum, after Tommy got upset over the 16 lbs balls, they (equipment guys either on their own or with Tommy’s blessing and memorabilia) began checking balls to deflate over-inflated balls to the low end of the legal range. This also would be a better ‘story’ for the shield because it means that even though they were tampering with the equipment, they were doing so withing legal parameters. And honestly, if they were doing this, they should have just come clean and admitted it. “Yes, we deflated balls to the lower end of the legal limit, so we were not using illegally inflated balls.”

    Again, I just don’t buy that the NFL wanted to tarnish the image of the Dolphins and Patriots. Oh yeah, the former jets guy that can’t get over his hatred for his FORMER opponents, who has so much power to force Goodell to do his bidding. Yeah, conspiracy much?

  63. mrmcdougle says: Aug 11, 2015 1:01 AM

    This is shocking! Those who were on the unfavorable side of a case involving Ted Wells aren’t happy with Ted Wells. This must mean he’s the antichrist, and invalidates all of his previous accolades!!

  64. selfpromotingqb says: Aug 11, 2015 6:28 AM

    Bullying, deflated footballs, Aron Rodgers girlfriend are distractions to keep from talking about Adrian Peterson, Andrew Quarless, and other REAL issues.

  65. jimmyt says: Aug 11, 2015 6:58 AM

    You can try to attack and discredit Wells all you want but the bottom line is Brady cheated, the Patriots have a history, a legacy of cheating, they paid their penalties and Brady will pay his.

  66. jimmyt says: Aug 11, 2015 6:59 AM

    daytontriangles says:
    Aug 10, 2015 8:13 PM

    As a Patriots fan, my initial reaction is to have sympathy for the Dolphins, another team screwed over by Ted Wells and Goodell.

    Then I think of Don Shula and my sympathy magically vanishes.

    The truth hurts doesn’t it?

  67. fanofpft says: Aug 11, 2015 12:44 PM

    ivanpavlov0000 says:
    Aug 10, 2015 7:15 PM

    Jim Turner deserved to be fired. People seem to forget that the Dolphin’s situation extended beyond Jonathan Martin. There was a lot of bad behavior and Jim Turner was right in the middle of it.

    It amazes me that you guys are so willing to tolerate Richie Incognito’s assault on a female volunteer at a charity event or the way he treated the team’s assistant trainer. Jim Turner was just as bad as Incognito.

    What this all really proves is that some people don’t grow and don’t learn. And the NFL does not need those people.
    ______
    These things are always left off the stories here.

  68. stableinnh says: Aug 11, 2015 4:14 PM

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    jimmyt says:Aug 11, 2015 6:58 AM

    You can try to attack and discredit Wells all you want but the bottom line is Brady cheated, the Patriots have a history, a legacy of cheating, they paid their penalties and Brady will pay his.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Actually the Patriots have a history of being accused of cheating. Aside from Spygate (Legal taping, from an illeagal position), there is nothing on their record except the accusations from a lot of fans of teams they have beaten so badly, they can’t see past their own hate…. and they won’t let it go, because it’s all they have to strike back with. Their hate. No facts, just envious, burning hate. It shows in every post you guys make.

    Sad really….

  69. dandeman19 says: Aug 11, 2015 4:33 PM

    WRONG we can attack Wells Goodell et al due to one word credibility If someone accused you wouldn’t you want the accuser to be credible? Wouldn’t you want the accuser to show not even the appearance of impropriety?

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