Getty ImagesIf Seahawks safety Kam Chancellor is serious about his threat to continue holding out into the regular season, he’s thinking about costing himself a serious amount of money.
At Chancellor’s salary of $4,550,000, he would lose $267,647 for each week of the regular season that he misses.
Of course, Chancellor is already costing himself about that much for each week he misses camp: The Seahawks are fining Chancellor $30,000 a day for each day that he’s absent, and the team can force him to pay back $250,000 of his signing bonus. That’s close to $1 million he’s lost already.
To engage in a holdout that’s costing him that much money, Chancellor must think there’s a good chance that the Seahawks will eventually relent, give him a raise and forgive those fines. And the Seahawks have shown in the past that they’re willing to consider doing that with other players. So maybe as the season approaches, the Seahawks will blink first and give Chancellor the money he seeks.
Chancellor is playing a dangerous game, however. If the Seahawks hold the line, he’ll have to show up eventually if he ever wants an NFL paycheck again. And when he does report, he’ll have lost a whole lot of money.
So it wouldn’t be surprising if the bluster from Chancellor’s agent in August changes into Chancellor reporting to the team in September, without a new contract.
Trade him for picks and continue to have a long successful run.
Not to mention the amount he’d lose on any new contract if the Seahawks keep winning without him.
I hope the Seahawks draw a line in the sand and tell him they will NOT forgive the fines. Some team has to have the stones to stand up to these guys who are dissatisfied with a contract which they just signed. I hope they take that part of the signing bonus too. As was mentioned in a previous story, if they re-work his contract then Bennett will want his re-worked as well. Then Marshawn Lynch will want more money again.
The Seahawks should just tell him to look at all the money they gave Wilson and Wagner and say they don’t have any more. So he can either play for a “measly” $4.5M (and the pro-rated signing bonus) or he can hold out and throw away money.
As they always said in the Army….”You can make a wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up faster.”
Wish I could afford to throw that kind of money away. To put it in perspective, that one week of pay would buy a really nice house free and clear (at least in some parts of the country still). Think about it.
Four years of my salary in a week! Happy Friday lol!
As a Seahawks fan I say be a man and own up to the contract that you signed. The next guy will always
be the highest payed that’s just the way it is. You really think Eli is worth more than Rodgers? Heck No but he will get more.
players contracts should be guaranteed and neither side should be allowed to renegotiate. both sides signed a legal document and both sides need to live up to it.
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In the NFL success usually comes back to bite you in the butt, as everyone wants to get paid for their contributions to the success.
Besides Chancellor comparing his contract to his teammates who’ve recently been rewarded , he would also be comparing it to someone like S Devon McCourty of the Patriots who signed a 9 million dollar contract in the offseason.
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mrnick66 says:
Aug 21, 2015 8:46 AM
players contracts should be guaranteed and neither side should be allowed to renegotiate. both sides signed a legal document and both sides need to live up to it.
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No way, guaranteed contracts in the NFL would never work and would kill the game.
Greed, greed and more greed. He must have taken the same class as Eli!!
Seahawks are coming apart at the seams…take the under in wins…
Pro Football Focus has him ranked as a good, but not great player. As opposed to Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman in the Legion of Boom, along with Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Bobby Wagner, who are ranked as great players on the scouting scale PFF has.
When you have a great D-Line that provides pressure to make bad throws and great coverage by your top corner, it’s easier to make plays. He’s a solid player, but not worth the trouble. I would deal him for picks at this point. If I was the GM I would sign all the elite-level players to long-term deals and let the good, but not great players go.
Otherwise, they’ll start to have really bad salary cap issues.
This is Seattle’s version of Lawyer Milloy, the good, but not great (ranking-wise) safety for the Patriots who let him go five days before the start of the 2003 NFL season and ended up on the Buffalo Bills. They ended up still having a top defense and defeated the Carolina Panthers to win the Superbowl.
Absolutely one of my favorite players on the team. Love Kam!
BUT, man up, dude. If the Hawks don’t ding him for every single penny he owes them for showing up, I’ll lose more respect for the front office.
I’ve loved the Seahawks for as long as I can remember, but the current team are starting to erode their SB48 goodwill. I’m perfectly fine with trading away Bennett as he seems to think that he needs more money, too (that being said, at least he showed up!)
The greed is insane. It’s a direct reflection on what’s wrong with our country today. And yes, #3, I’m looking at you, too.
mrnick66 says:
players contracts should be guaranteed and neither side should be allowed to renegotiate. both sides signed a legal document and both sides need to live up to it.
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Then the season after the superstar on your team has the lowest stats in the league because he got paid then rolled over, you can still root for him to keep his roster spot. Right?
>“Absolutely one of my favorite players on the team. Love Kam!”
Despite that, I’m perfectly fine with them trading him right now. This is a team sport. The Me Me Me attitude belongs in the kindergarten toy room.
2 years ago, on signing his new contract, didn’t everyone in the NFL think it was too much? Seemed happy then…
oh the seahawks have nothing to worry about, the cap goes up every year, Ha HA
Player doesn’t like contract = selfish
Team doesn’t like contract = just business
Get that money Kam
While I’m not a fan of the Seahawks I have zero problem with a player trying to squeeze a little more juice out of an orange, so to speak. Get the money while you can because you’re one injury away from no paycheck or if you have a down season getting your contract “renegotiated” for way less than you were making previously. If the contracts were fully guaranteed like the NBA/MLB then I’d side with the owners and say play your contract out. But being this is the NFL and a contract is basically the equivalent of a scratch off lottery ticket you have to get paid for your production while your able to still produce before that lottery ticket gets torn up and thrown away.
Well as a Patriots fan, I enjoy seeing teams rise to the top and then tumble down under their own weight. It just magnifies the Patriots greatness.
He’s a good safety, but he’s not worth a raise.
The problem with Seattle is that their defense has been so good, that everyone on the defense thinks it’s a result of their own play. None of them buy into anyone else around them making them look good, or the scheme, or position coaches or anything else.
To these self-righteous players, nothing around them matters. They themselves made the defense good, and everyone around them looked good as a result.
The problem is, when everyone on your defense thinks like that (and they almost all do), everyone wants big money. And some will eventually get cut or traded because of it, and get their money from another team. They’ll be cut in 1-2 years because they aren’t producing, but they will have still made their money. So in hindsight, you can’t really blame them.
I really hope Seattle doesn’t give in.
Who are you people to say he’s greedy? He’s earned the Seahawks much more money than he’s earned for himself. MUCH MORE. He’s unhappy with his pay, who are you to say to he doesn’t deserve more? I absolutely loathe the Hawks but even if I were a fan I’d much rather have Kam happy and higher-paid than unhappy and not reporting. If you really think this “Legion of Boom” is going to perform at the same level without him you’re drunk, but it goes even deeper than that. Pro Athletes are people too, despite the fact many of you seem to think otherwise. They see what goes on in terms of their teammates’ contracts and guess what? Certain things bother them! If in this case Chancellor is a little ticked that Wilson is getting what’s getting , he’s not mad AT HIM. He’s mad at the situation, reevaluates what he’s done for this team versus what RW has done, and says you know what? This is the point where I’m going to push for more money. I’m not saying it definitely is this way now, but I cannot blame him one bit given the way the NFL is structured if this is the case. “Oh, QBs are the most important so you should pay them handsomely, but not the defensive studs who effectively won us our first SB”. Just like a team can offer you a crazy deal and cut your a$$ before paying even half of it, players can become upset with their current deals and want a new one. It’s not that serious, let the grown-ups in these situations handle the negotiations and it will all play out. For many of you to bash the players in these cases, especially talented, valuable players, is to overlook the greed on the part of owners and that’s whats sad to me.
Before you all jump up and down while whining about your how job won’t let you renegotiate mid-contract, this is not about you. You do not work as an NFL athlete. It’s a completely different animal so please stop acting like you’re in any way equivalent to Kam or any other NFL player with a contract situation. Stop it.
>”oh the seahawks have nothing to worry about, the cap goes up every year”
That doesn’t help the Kam situation right now.
>”Player doesn’t like contract = selfish
Team doesn’t like contract = just business”
The system is broken and unfair. No arguing that. Doesn’t mean a lot of us agree with either side when they hold out (or cut).
People who think that the majority of players would mail it in if they had guaranteed contracts have obviously never played sports in their lives, or are just completely lazy themselves.
Fried Toast says:
Aug 21, 2015 9:15 AM
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2 years ago, on signing his new contract, didn’t everyone in the NFL think it was too much? Seemed happy then…
Spot on Fried toast.
Everyone except Seahawks thought it was crazy to give Kam that much money. They paid him early! Seahawk Way, Always compete!
Fire your agent!
good for Kam. stand by your decision and make the Hawks pay you with money they no longer have…
#wheelsarefallingoff
Hawks only concern is the Oline and Cable says he has the most athleticism there since he’s been a Hawk, just young.
Hawks are better at every other position vs last year except maybe right CB and the Dline will be so much improved, that may not matter.
Better hope that Oline doesn’t come around or we’re going to roll the NFL.
Again.
(And yes, Kam will be back at his current salary.)
Cheers
Hello Seahawks, this is Rick Spielman GM for the Vikings. Have another “top-notch” WR named Corderall Patterson. We would be willing to send him to you and a late pick for Cam….Hello?
Seahawks just need to tell his agent, no renegotiations until one year left on his deal. Be here by week 3 of the preseason or we will enforce all fines and go after signing bonus. He will show up
Let him sit out all year.
Must be so tough making that much per week….
Good for him to have the stones to do it. Owner slurpers and whiny grocery baggers here are clueless.
If they could just paypal me that money each week, I’d be fine with that.
I’ve loved the Seahawks for as long as I can remember, but the current team are starting to erode their SB48 goodwill. I’m perfectly fine with trading away Bennett as he seems to think that he needs more money, too (that being said, at least he showed up!)
I think just about every fanbase in the country told you that goodwill would fall in the face of greed. The fact that you thought it would at all shows your naiveté and the fact that you didn’t believe what 90% of people who were in the same situation at some point shows you’re closed minded and not open to listening. THIS is what’s wrong with America today. Not the greed of millionaires trying to get more money from billionaires.
what a cry baby it would take me 6 years and three months to make what he makes in one week
“Better hope that Oline doesn’t come around or we’re going to roll the NFL.
Again.”
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Great team you got up there, but it was one “roll” too short last year, if you recall correctly.
Kam is a great player and needs to recognize what the right move is here. Get on the field with this team.
I suspect the situation is more serious than the “greed” they want you to infer. This whole deal is not in character for Kam, so there must have been a good reason for it to happen this way.
I get the feeling he either knows or suspects that he won’t make it to the end of this contract, let alone see a new one, so he’s trying to get the money now because his career is coming to an end sooner than people think.
No story here. Kam will be there opening day. No way they enforce the ultimate penalty and trade him to the classless Vikings. Go Hawks.
…the Seahawks will cave….the two sides are playing chicken & Kam will win. Bennett will have a hissy fit when it happens but he’s history next year anyway.
“Oh, QBs are the most important so you should pay them handsomely, but not the defensive studs who effectively won us our first SB”.
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The score in that Super Bowl was 43-8. There was a safety and a returned INT for a TD. So it would seem that the offense scored 35 points. Do we have a great defense? Yep. Do we have a great offense? Yep.
He’s worth at least $75 million a year, Seahawks better make this right.
As much as I love Kam, I hope we DO NOT give in. Marshawn Lynch was the exception. In the long run HE will give in…the friendship of the LOB will bring him back….if not…good bye Kam.
He signed a contract. He should man up and honor it. End of story.
Greedy… he’s only successful because of the rest of that D. I’m a VT fan but this dude is an idiot.
If the Seahawks had any cajones they would tell him to pound sand.
this is why you don’t negotiate with players who hold out. other players saw it worked with lynch and now the rest are following.
Keep holding out! Your helping every team on your schedule. In fact if I were the Cardinals/49ers and Rams, I’d be paying his fines just so the bum keeps holding out.
While I agree with the greed comments, can you really blame the guy. Everyone who threatens to holdout has gotten paid so far.
skiier4384 says:
Aug 21, 2015 9:11 AM
Pro Football Focus has him ranked as a good, but not great player. As opposed to Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman in the Legion of Boom, along with Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Bobby Wagner, who are ranked as great players on the scouting scale PFF has.
When you have a great D-Line that provides pressure to make bad throws and great coverage by your top corner, it’s easier to make plays. He’s a solid player, but not worth the trouble. I would deal him for picks at this point. If I was the GM I would sign all the elite-level players to long-term deals and let the good, but not great players go.
Otherwise, they’ll start to have really bad salary cap issues.
This is Seattle’s version of Lawyer Milloy, the good, but not great (ranking-wise) safety for the Patriots who let him go five days before the start of the 2003 NFL season and ended up on the Buffalo Bills. They ended up still having a top defense and defeated the Carolina Panthers to win the Superbowl.
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That’s just crazy talk. Too much caffeine this morning?
First. Seattle doesn’t have a “great D-line.” Avril and Bennett are their best pass rushers, and neither had many sacks last year, or any in the SB. Avril left hurt in the SB.
Earl Thomas, Mr. 3 interceptions in 3 years, calls defensive plays. Where was he in the SB? It’s as if he wasn’t in the game. Zero production. He was no more hurt than Kam! Thomas couldn’t stop Amendola from catching a pass near the back of the end zone just a yard from him? Give me a break about Thomas being the best safety in the game. Hardly! Vastly overpaid. Kam does all the policing and Thomas knows it!
Real talk from a Seattle fan, not some homer nonsense.
Pay the man. He’s earned twice a mere 4.5M. He set the tone for the win against Denver in the 2013 SB. Not Thomas. Heck, Thomas nearly, and could have easily been called for 2 pass interference calls, that weren’t called when he failed to keep Denver receivers in front of him. The only thing that kept Denver from scoring was Manning’s passing being off.
Lose the blinders.
That’s the current cost of a 4 year ivy-league education.
the Seahawks opened a pandora’s bow when they redid lynch’s contract. biggest mistake in the Schneider and Carroll era
Marhawn Lynch set the precedence in Seattle and the Seahawks gave in. All the other players took notice. Seahawks will have to offer him something, no matter how insignificant.
Greedy!
I love Kam Chancellor but the Seahawks shouldn’t bend here one bit. 3 years left on a deal, he already got his signing bonus and is still paid like a top SS.
Kam should fire his agent for 2 reasons. Signing the deal in the first place if he is so unhappy with the deal now and advising him to hold out. If Seattle has him pay the fines and I think they should – 1 million dollars of his year is wasted with this tactic. It sets an example for others not to hold out.
he just wnats extra vascation and time off… he’ll be back and it’ll be liek nothing changed.. im 100% sure he getting the playbook and watching video and blah blah… who cares…
Kam’s my favorite player… Well, used to be my favorite, but he’s being stupid and selfish here and I, along with every other sane Seahawk fan, has lost a ton of respect for him. At this point, trade him to a bottom dweller team with no chance at competing for years like Jacksonville or San Francisco for picks and go and sign Mathis to help out that sieve of an offensive line.
All these idiotic Seahawk fans saying “pay the man” have no idea what a salary cap is or how it works and are brain dead and clueless in not being able to foresee the nightmare that that precedence would set among other players on the team. The second they renegotiated Kam’s contract, Bennett would hold out too. And say what you want about Bennett, but at least he’s there working hard with his team and not being selfish and holding out.
Players shouldn’t sign such long term contracts because the salary cap has been increasing every single year with no signs of leveling off. That means guys will be getting larger contracts. If their ego can’t stand that, then perhaps they ought to sign 2-3 year contracts only and then sign larger ones as the market increases (unless you’re a running back).
He makes 333 times more a week than I do !
“You really think Eli is worth more than Rodgers? Heck No but he will get more.”
Eli wont ever get more than Rodgers,not this year or ever. whatever made you think that. as for Kam,hope he keeps listening to his greedy agent and keeps up his foolish protest,players have been known to piss away millions on foolish things like new fancy cars,houses,bar tabs in strip joints and anything else they desire instead of investing it for their future,Kam is fighting for a foolish cause and willing to lose all that cash over it but hopefully the Hags stick to their sane logic and keep fining him and refusing to comply with his demands as he is not bigger than the team he works for,a team that can get along well without his presence even if he doesnt believe so.
fyi – I’m 71+ years old, I’ve been watching pro football since 1957 and IN MY DAY the players had to have off-season jobs to help make ends meet, same with baseball and basketball.
That being said – I don’t begrudge the money these dudes make, but this guy DID sign a contract, and his actions now indicate that he is not a man of his word.
That’s all
“He makes 333 times more a week than I do !”
And it still isnt enough for him,go figure.
theashleyguy says:
Aug 21, 2015 10:09 AM
The score in that Super Bowl was 43-8. There was a safety and a returned INT for a TD. So it would seem that the offense scored 35 points.
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Percy “MeMeMeMeMe” Harvin and his ST TD say hi!
So it would seem your memory is faulty.
I’ll quote Jim Miller (former NFL QB) again, to NEVER sign a long-term deal. Bet on yourself to stay healthy and injury free. That way you’ll be able to negotiate a new contract every year. And if they tag you more twice, it’ll become cost prohibitive to do it the third time. Also, no one will be able to say, you need to honor your contract.
This holdout is an empty gesture, nothing more. Let’s say he holds out, into the regular season. Where’s the endgame? Show up week 11, willingly play 6+ games at your unacceptable rate of pay again, then hold out the following year again?
The idea of a holdout is that it’s a bluff that you’ll just sandbag out the rest of your contract til you hit free agency. That might work with just a year left and the bridge you’re about to burn almost in the rear view mirror.
Also Kam is a highly intelligent rational being, not a macho meathead. He knows it’s gonna be hard to make up a lost million (let alone a lost season’s $8M) over the life of the new contract he wants. At a certain point you can’t let your quest for more money turn around and net you less money.
I think the line will be when he has to start writing Paul Allen checks to pay back his forfeited signing bonus. At that point, not only is he “losing” the game checks he’d otherwise be earning (which is actually only an opportunity cost) to actually paying money for the privilege of not getting paid.
whodat5150 says:
Aug 21, 2015 12:48 PM
I’ll quote Jim Miller (former NFL QB) again, to NEVER sign a long-term deal. Bet on yourself to stay healthy and injury free. That way you’ll be able to negotiate a new contract every year. And if they tag you more twice, it’ll become cost prohibitive to do it the third time. Also, no one will be able to say, you need to honor your contract.
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I’m sure strangely-not-former Bears QB Jay Cutler would disagree with that. The only reason he’s not backing up Geno Smith right now is because he caught the Bears FO between a rock and a hard place with his franchise QB level long term contract. They can’t cut him this season because they have to pay him $15 million dead or alive… did Jim Miller even make that much in his career?
Kam isn’t missing games. He’d be a fool too. Right now fans are a little annoyed but understand holding out of camp. He’s made his point. IF (BIG IF) he actually misses games then he will lose a lot of support from fans that he’s worked so hard to get. Team captains don’t miss games on purpose. I’d be stunned if he missss games. Don’t cross that line Kam! The Seahawks aren’t gonna give you a new deal you just signed couple years ago.
The only time the Seahawks gave new contact to a player (Marshawn Lynch) is because he had 1 year remaining on his contract. The Seahawks might redo a guy with 1 year left but 3-4+ years? They won’t. If they did this than everyone would be lining up at the GM’s door asking for new contracts with 3+ years left..